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/AUSPOL/ - marriage equality now bigots?

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So my countrymen,

what will you vote for this coming november?

pls provide good arguments. Im leaning towards yes, but I'm mindful of the slippery slop idea, the fact that children need a mum and dad, and also that the normalisation and promotion of homosexuality is no good as a whole.

However, I also recognise that they (the homos), want it so I'm like whatever just give em what they want.

so yeah, argument for and against pls
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>>136900187
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Vote against it. I say this because the status quo must be maintained or else the flood gates are going to open and the consequences look like this;
>first gays get a say and the laws are reformed to accept them. Children can now be adopted by gay couples and sometimes sexually abused.

>then its people with fucked up sexual desires i.e. beastiality who want laws to be reformed and accept them which has already happened in Canada.

>then finally its pedophiles who want to legally have a say and want the age of consent to be lowered which will be supported by cucked left.

This website goes over the pros and cons of gay marriage;

http://gaymarriage.procon.org
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>>136900187
>However, I also recognise that they (the homos), want it so I'm like whatever just give em what they want.

so if they want your bike, you better give it to them you cuck

changing the foundation of civilization to suit 2% of the pop is fucking stupid, you dont need marriage to love someone, they should be happy with what they have instead of ruining it for the rest of society, nothing wrong with civil unions, but you cannot have marriage, no civilization has ever been built on SSM

this is my vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi-q0ALVzPg
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>>136901530
Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/04/the-science-of-sexuality-how-our-genes-make-us-gay-or-straight/

http://archive.is/y64OH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

https://www.advocate.com/health/2015/10/09/study-dna-identical-twins-can-reveal-whos-gay

http://archive.is/GuptB

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

http://archive.is/PSmzQ

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

http://chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

Scientists find DNA differences between gay men and their straight twin brothers:

http://archive.is/g3lal

http://www.nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAGEA11

The benefits of gay marriage:

https://www.liveabout.com/the-benefits-of-gay-marriage-1411846

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/gay-marriage-boosts-happiness-health-study-article-1.3053017

http://archive.is/dmO9e
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>>136900187
One of the great thing about traps, is that they don't give much of a fuck about being cûckjoined... only cock-joyed
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>>136902553
>Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:
There is also genetic evidence for cancer so what?
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vote no for the banter
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they just push and push.
its illegal to assault a faith.
just go to the registry office you hethan cunts.
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>>136902954
Well generally support for people who cannot control how they are is stronger. People don't claim to ban interracial marriage because Blacks do not control their race and are born that way. Discrimination against inborn traits is generally frowned upon in developed countries.
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>>136900187

Shut your cunt mouth and die of AIDS, faggot.
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>>136903335
it would be cool if all you wanted was to be recognized as married and live out your lives.

but no, thats not the case. and so i will vote no, like every sane individual, not out of hatred or homophobia. but because it's whats best, especially for homos.
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>>136903693
This sort of paternalistic and patronizing attitude is likely why gay marriage will pass at some point anyways. People are tired of others trying to play gatekeeper for them.

"Sure you can have this, but only if you never ask me for anything again!"

You don't get to make that decision.
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>>136902553

I see we've got another methed up freak on /pol/. Hey, do us a favour and throw yourself of a roof top, you child abusing sodomite.
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>>136900187
h-holy shit
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>>136902553
Homosexuality is natural but also is cancer and well both don't benefit humanity at all
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>>136903796
>you dont get to make that decision
but i do

>paternalistic and patronizing
typical misunderstanding.
this doesn't just affect you. "the gays" this affects society as a whole.

stop flinging shit and grow up.
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>>136903335
Just because you are a man and find men sexually attractive does not mean that you HAVE TO be with them.
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I'm voting no because the faggots that invaded and spam /r9k/ with their ERP loli hookup threads are really gross and obnoxious and just shit up everything. So now I hate faggots.
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>>136904113
Female relatives of gay men have 1.3x as many children:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/abstract

>>136904121
Well no but we don't force straight men to be with men so why should we force gay men to be with women?

>>136904113
But you don't and the inevitability of why this has come up as such a pressing issue is proof of that. There is no path to forcing gays to never be able to get married.

We should have a free vote in Parliament

Barring that a postal vote could come in favor of gays, triggering a free vote, or against, triggering a court decision in favor of gays.

Either way this will all likely help Labor win big in 2019 elections if gay marriage doesn't somehow pass before then.
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>>136904455
>so why should we force gay men to be with women?
Who is forcing gay men to be with women?
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>>136903796
You fags do normally have daddy issues
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>>136903178
ye this is a big factor if i vote no. just wanna see lefties get triggered
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>>136904602
Well some are certainly trying.

>>136904733
see pic
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>>136903660
thats hardly an argument to get me to vote no, which i am open to
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>>136902553
Ugh this is such garbage. They can't even work out what causes type 1 diabetes but they're supposed to be able to spot which genes are the assfuck faggot genes? And they confirm their hypothesis how? Grooming the kid to be a faggot his entire life? This is why I think most gays are reprehensible pedophiles.
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>>136904869

My job isn't to convince you that sodomy is evil, anymore than it is to convince you that murder and theft is evil. My job is to put my boot on the necks of child molesting faggots and degenerates.
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>>136905223
ur gonna lose the plebiscite with that attitude
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So many problems would be solved if grown men could have relationships with young boys.

Women are far too privileged and have fucked up society for too damn long.

Women will increasingly become the upper caste of our newly stratified society. Young boys will feel the pinch more and more from how the women around them treat them as a subhuman species.

If grown men could interject and get boys away from toxic anti-male/pro-female society and culture, then men would grow up happy, content and free.
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>>136900187
Who cares what they want?
When have feefees ever been actually important?
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>>136903925
>t the lamest super hero ever
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I'll be voting no of course like all sane people. Only fags and stupid women will vote yes.
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>>136904455
>gay marriage is a pressing issue
totally. nothing else going on.

this is why people are disgusted with you spoiled, narcissistic a-holes

the only reason its even being talked about is because its gonna get you cock suckers to vote with whatever side agrees and you will fuck up the country in the process.

all because you wanted to get married. congratulations. you sure showed us
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>>136904928
Well no, if it were a specific gene it would have come up in genetic testing of related homosexuals that has been done countless times.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22720828

There is a concordance between same sex attracted identical twins and similarities on chromosome 8 as well as, especially, the XQ28 region of the X chromosome though.

There is also the factor of epigenetic tags that are found to give up to 70% similarity in predictive power for whether identical twins will be gay. Those are methylated attachments to DNA that do not alter the DNA itself but merely how it is expressed.
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>>136905405
u reckon no will win?
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>>136905585
I believe immigration reform is equally pressing for Australia. If they legalized gay marriage they could move on to that issue but some conservatives have failed to realize that social conservatism is not only unwieldy and polarizing, but also unpopular and at best a distraction from real issues. Social conservatism is dead in developed countries.
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I used to work with a homo, and I mentioned to him that I'm Christian. He started getting a bit uppity at me for no real good reason, even after I told it that I don't care what he does with his life. I remember him asking me what my political views are, and his exact words were
>"Are you conservative or are you open-minded?"

Later on that day in the lunch-room we were watching the news, and there was a story about the then-new Pope Francis. This queer immediately starts bashing and insulting Christianity while I was in direct earshot of me. If I made fun of homos, even out of banter, I would be immediately sacked.
We've had two or three more homos come through work, and I had almost the exact same experience with them.
These people are sick in the head and act like spoilt children who were never told 'no'. I'm voting against homo marriage, because I know how bigoted and spiteful and selfish and hateful these people truly are. Not to mention the higher rates of drug abuse, pedophilia, domestic violence, STDs, suicide, etc.
A vote for 'no' is a vote for human decency.
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>>136906072
I like the idea of voting no, to take a stand against the degeneracy in general. To say to these weird ppl, look no, you aren't normal and we aren't going to tolerate this weird shit like it is normal.
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>>136906306
I like the way you think, anon.
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Vote No to faggotry
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I'm voting no this is where we push back fuck faggots. The purge is coming soon.
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I'm voting no because it's such a lazy solution to a nuanced problem.

Firstly, civil unions give gay couples the exact same rights as a married couple.
Secondly, to just say "Gays can marry now. It's a right." would force churches to do things that go against their value systems.
Thirdly, it doesn't actually make gays any happier/reduce suicide rates/etc.

Honestly though, if they just seperated church/state marriage systems, I would care a hell of a lot less. As in, the church doesn't have to acknowledge any marriages they choose not to, and can choose to not marry couples without repurcussion.. But no, that's too easy.
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Gays spread degeneracy, they have been given plenty of freedom over the last few decades and all they have done is spread more degeneracy.
Marriage as an institution is on the decline, this is just another attack on this fundamental pillar of our community.
If they get gay marriage they aren't going to shut up, the next thing will be some shit like gays adopting kids so they can molest them or feed them hormone blockers.
If this vote gets a no, then fuckwit Shorten will think twice about ANOTHER expensive vote to make Australia a republic. If it's yes they might decide to waste our fucking tax dollars again instead of sorting shit out in parliament.
Gays have perfectly adequate options outside of marriage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E-P_g75ciM
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>>136906072
Yes true, I'm not Christian but I think its terrible the way religious people are being bullied by the so called "tolerant left" in all the places where SSM is legal, persecution of religious people is never to far behind, like that Christian baker that got sued by a gay couple, that's why I'm voting no, I can't see how legalisation of SSM and freedom of religion can both exist, especially when we live in a post-18C Australia
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>>136900187
Its not even legally binding, its just a way for the fed to swing their dicks wasting taxpayers money. Provided that it doesnt get cancelled, literally nothing will happen either way afterwards
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I'm voting Yes because I believe that freedom and equality are the most important ideals of Western civilization.

What separates us from the tyrannies of the Middle East or Africa is our ability to be rational and empathetic. Our civilization is based on creating a world that is ultimately fair to everyone, while ensuring that personal liberty is never infringed upon. Right now homosexuals don't have the same liberties as you or I, despite being citizens of the same nation. And marriage is no longer a strictly religious custom, it is a legal act which infers benefits and rights to families, and currently gay people have no other legal partnership that is as strong.

A vote for Yes is a vote for freedom, and a vote for freedom is reaffirming that Western Civilization is still supreme.
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im voting no just because this is the 4th thread in 2 days about this and i want to spite you faggots.
here is your write-up op. homosexuality is amoral and should not be condoned, celebrated, or accepted in any capacity. i dont care if you want to spread aids between the rest of you subhumans, but i dont want to your incessant need to be validated come at the cost of my freedoms, rights, or the will of others.
besides, what comes after gay marriage is legalized? bestiality? child marriages? fuck you, you are the initiators of a slippery slope that will drag us all down to a state of being even below yours. the solution of gay marriage solves what problem you idiots are facing? you want to get married, what for? why would you ever need to get married. you cant have children, and as such the sanctity and benefits of such a system should be denied to you, as the very purpose of marriage all the way back when the concept was invented was to officially recognize the advent of a new family, no just give 2 people the right to have sex and not have children.
and no, donating to a sperm bank doesnt count as starting a family you fucking mongoloid.
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I'll be voting no.

In Australia homosexual couples are already seen as partners in a civil union. We already have equal rights. As a man, I have the right to marry a woman the same as any man has the right to marry a woman.

Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman under God to the exclusion of all else. Children need both a mother and father and its a very slippery slope to go down.

Already the left is using this slope to push the transgender narrative, lowering the age of consent, and even heading towards normalizing pedophilia. This is being done in places like Canada and the US, but also under our very noses here in Australia with programs like 'safe schools'.

For these reasons I will be voting NO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi-q0ALVzPg
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>>136907459
>marriage is no longer a strictly religious custom
Keyword is "strictly". You can't simply give homosexuals the right to marriage without also infringing on religious freedoms.

>gay people have no other legal partnership that is as strong
Civil unions. Alternatively, just make a new system separate to marriage that churches don't have to take part in that gays and straight people can use if you don't like that answer for no real reason.
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>>136900187

>actively and knowingly taking part in the cultural and moral degradation of your society

Fucking traitorous behaviour.
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>>136907915
The Australian gay marriage bill will have explicit religious exemptions. No priest or Church ANYWHERE has EVER been made to conduct a gay wedding.
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https://www.face-book.com/timminchin/videos/vb.7544251825/10155430722376826/?type=2&theater

The tolerant left strikes again...
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>>136908046

Will it? Have you seen the exact legislature which will be passed should a "yes" vote come back?

No one has. We're voting blind. None of us have any idea what the fuck a yes vote will actually result in, or other than directly pander to a fucked cultural decline.
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>>136908046
Firstly, no it doesn't. If a church is to recognize one marriage, it has to recognize them all. This goes directly against most major religions. Secondly, How about civilians with businesses not wanting to take part it them either?
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>>136907459
Tolerance is literally a dying virtue of society you fucking dunce.
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>>136908244
Well, no but there is no proposed version that doesn't contain religious exemptions and nobody has suggested doing so. Even then even without explicit religious exemptions no church or priest anywhere has ever been forced to marry a gay couple.

>>136908272
>How about civilians with businesses not wanting to take part it them either?

Too bad. Making a cake is not endorsing gay marriage.
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Got a choice of going to Queensland or Victoria
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>>136908447
Fuck off we're full

Unless you want to murder some fags
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>>136908396
>>136908272
Also discriminating against gay people is already explicitly illegal in Australia:

http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r5026
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>>136908552
I'm here on UN business, watch your mouth or ill get you deported
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>>136908396
>Too bad. Making a cake is not endorsing gay marriage.
It is if it's for a gay wedding, yes.
Every business owner has the right to deny service to anyone they choose. Apparently, unless the business owner is religious and the person being denied is a homosexual.

Being dismissive isn't helping your argument.
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>>136900187
Don't. Slippery slope is very real. If you call it marriage equality and say only requirement is "2 consenting adults" and that "it's about love" the next natural step is incest. From there, you can justify just about anything.

After gay marriage was legalized, there was a surge of shit about legalizing incest (and even pedophilia) from leftwing outlets. It is very much a slippery slope. Feels do not justify the consequences.
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>>136908396

No but bakeries have been sued for refusing to bake cakes.

Voting yes is legit retarded.
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Coming into Australia Victoria soon to celebrate the passing of gay marriage xx.

Good on you Australia being a beacon of progressive hope, cant wait to move there and start a gay rights club
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>>136908617
Kill yourself. Go to either and spout that nonsense off and you'll have your head caved in hopefully.
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>>136908617
Easy there Sanjeev! I was already deported here for stealing a loaf of bread
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>>136908625
Well that is already illegal in Australia apart from gay marriage:

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/sexual-orientation-sex-gender-identity/projects/new-protection

From 1 August 2013 it will be unlawful to discriminate against a person on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity and intersex status under federal law. Same-sex couples are now also protected from discrimination under the definition of ‘marital or relationship status’. These new protections will particularly apply to lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, gender diverse and intersex people.

The Sex Discrimination Amendment (Sexual Orientation, Gender Identity and Intersex Status) Act 2013 (Cth) (SDA Amendment Act) inserts these new grounds into the Sex Discrimination Act 1984 (Cth) (SDA).

People will be able to make complaints to the Australian Human Rights Commission if they believe they have been discriminated against on the basis of these new grounds.

Most states and territories have some form of protection against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity; however, the SDA Amendment Act introduces more inclusive definitions and addresses gaps such as a lack of coverage for acts or practices of the federal government. It also includes the new ground of intersex status.
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>>136908728
KYS please.
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>>136908878
Are there exemptions to unlawful discrimination?

Yes. The SDA includes provisions that provide that in certain circumstances the discrimination will not be unlawful. These are called either ‘exceptions’ or ‘exemptions’. Some of the existing provisions in the SDA will now also apply to the new grounds as well as introducing new exemptions specifically for sexual orientation, gender identity and intersex status. These include for conduct in compliance with the Marriage Act 1961 (Cth), for conduct in compliance with prescribed Commonwealth, State or Territory laws, and for requests for information and record keeping in relation to sex and/or gender.

The SDA Amendment Act also qualifies the exemptions for religious organisations to the effect that it does not apply to conduct connected with the provision of Commonwealth-funded aged care services.
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women vote for this shit because when the see someone being retarded, they would rather enable them to prevent a confrontation. men will confront the problem to solve it, of course.
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Passport came into today anyways xx coming back to my homeland
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Spread the word, lets shut down these antifa thugs on tumblr. Raid is next Friday (18th). Spam all the pepes and swastikas to all left wing and antifa pages
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>>136905586

Ugh I hate laymen using abstracts to try prove points. This is why the media and their "science" stories need to fuck right off. That article talks about the "gay gene" and then freely admits it's a meme and doesn't even exist. Therefore every OTHER source you've linked that mentions gay genetics is entirely bunk. Don't try and source arguements with sources you haven't read. To whit;

>It has no biochemical makeup. It cannot be tested or experimented on. The original hypothesis by Hamer, Magnuson, and Pattatucci (1993 Hamer , D. , Magnuson , H. , & Pattatucci , A. ( 1993 ). A linkage between DNA markers on the X chromosome and male sexual orientation . Science , 261 , 321 – 327 .
[Crossref], [PubMed], [Web of Science ®], [Google Scholar]
), that there is a correlation between the X chromosome genetic marker—Xq28—and gay male sexuality, has never been replicated. However, it has a kind of life and it exists as an idea, a repetition, a discursive pattern, an emotional effect, a label, and a hypothesis. It appears in scientific journals, newspaper articles, popular science writings, databases, and Web sites.

IE it doesn't exist. It's entirely hypothetical. There is NO scientific basis for a "gay gene" and it only exists as a meme.

t.medstudent
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>>136908710
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/denvers-azucar-bakery-wins-right-to-refuse-to-make-anti-gay-cake

http://archive.is/1iwE5

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dublin-bakery-s-refusal-of-anti-gay-marriage-cake-not-discrimination-1.3165211

http://archive.is/xtLSU

Already illegal in Australia to discriminate against gays since 2013.
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>>136908878
>Well that is already illegal in Australia
It sure as hell shouldn't be. Australia is a "progressive" shithole though.
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>>136900187
Im gona vote no, then gona write something about the jews on the ballot paper, take a pic of it then post it here.

Noice.
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>>136909047
I never said there is one gene proven to be it, I said there is evidence that it is genetic and that there are concordances in the genetics of identical twins at particular regions of Chromosomes 8 and X, as well as epigenetic tags that correspond to sexual orientation near 70% of the time.
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I'll be voting no.

Firstly, In Australia homosexual couples are already seen as partners in a civil union, which give gay couples the exact same rights as a married couple.
We already have equal rights. As a man, I have the right to marry a woman the same as any man has the right to marry a woman.

Secondly, to just say "Gays can marry now. It's a right." would force churches to do things that go against their value systems.

Thirdly, it doesn't actually make gays any happier/reduce suicide rates/etc. Not to mention the higher rates of drug abuse, pedophilia, domestic violence, STDs, suicide, etc.

Fourthly, Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman under God to the exclusion of all else. Children need both a mother and father and its a very slippery slope to go down.
Already the left is using this slope to push the transgender narrative, lowering the age of consent, and even heading towards normalizing pedophilia. This is being done in places like Canada and the US, but also under our very noses here in Australia with programs like 'safe schools'.

For these reasons I will be voting NO
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>>136908921
My gf wants to vote 'yes' because "it's the nice thing to do"
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literally been waiting for this thread all day/

is this quite possibly /ourminister/?
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Honestly lads, i'm going to be voting yes.

Gays made up and intergral part of our society, they are our friends, doctors, co workers. We shouldent shun - but embrace our differences
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>>136909196
ayy, that's some spicy banter
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>>136909050

Even more reason to vote no. Thanks.
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>>136909134
You do realize it's genetic propensity for example instincts right? Instincts =/= behaviour.
I'd say homosexual behaviour is entirely preventable. Clearly the fa end of the spectrum carries some negative baggage. Prevention and all that of negative behaviour isn't a crazy idea.
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>>136909187

Your girlfriend is a moron.
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>>136909397
I know, legit thinking of dumping her 2bh
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>>136909464
ill have her
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>australians
>people
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>>136909590
Take her m8, you can deal with her shit
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>>136900187
I don't want to discriminate when they have a chance of happiness.
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>>136900187
90's kids have a warped view of marriage
paternal security
and material resource security

marriage is a structure that sustains a cohesive society, positive family units that invest into their linage the future of their family and a fair competition between others.

They have re-framed marriage as a emotional expression, hence no fault divorce is common, since if marriage is about emotion of two people why can't a change in that emotion make the union null and void. This is leads up the moral "slippery slope" the the conservatives have warned us about. if you want to have a union with any 2 (or more) consenting people why not, we can only go down from here.

I will vote no, I disagree with the re-framing of marriage by Hollywood, and with take a stand along these lines. Marriage is for maintaining civilization, happy individuals, and raising children, love is a behavioral adaption to this mechanism which makes these actions worth while
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>>136902553
Good then we should use crispr to cure your illness. The hundreds of millions put into the plebiscite and tolerance programs can be used to advance science. You're not against science are you?
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>>136909662
Record doing it for a laugh and upload her reaction please.
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>Voting Yes.
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>>136909650

>the British
>bongalong a ding dong crummy wumpy bang shangers
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>>136909734
If it were voluntary and CRISPR could do that, sure.
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>>136909669

>marriage automatically makes you happy

I've got some bad news for you mate.
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>>136909798
>t paedophile rapist potato spawn
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>>136909650
Our military is till filled with warcrime on the regular lmao, fuck off nerd.
SpecFor for life nigga.
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>>136900187
Years ago I was ok with gay marriage. "Gays should be able to get married. They're not hurting anyone, but why not?" I thought.

Today I would vote no without hesitating for this reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuMsuo7m-eQ

The slippery slope argument conservatives made some time ago has already proven itself true. Coming from someone who used to be all about liberalism and shit, I'm undeniably against gay rights now.
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>>136909853

>.t dental plan
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>>136906306
No faggotry :)
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>>136909824
No good. We can't allow people to suffer, not while we have universal healthcare.
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>>136901530
Slippery slope fallacy.

>>136900187

Gay marriage affects approximately 0.2% of the total population but dominates national discussion and is used by our elected representatives as a convenient distraction from the real pressing issues they continually fail to address

- stagnant or falling wage growth
- rising unemployment and loss of full-time employment for part-time
- housing affordability and the multiple state housing bubbles
- over-leveraged families and rising household debt
- declining local birth rates
- the very obvious fact were in a deepening recession
- overpriced cluster-fuck that is the NBN and sub-standard infrastructure that stifles innovation and sees our startups move offshore
- Over-reliance on the service industries only made viable due to access to easy and cheap credit
- China's impending credit crisis
- A central banking policy that artificially inflates the currency supply and continually devalues the dollar making every hour you work worth less and less

If for no other reason, vote YES to remove this distraction. The LGBT community is a tiny and largely irrelevant but vocal minority of professional victims that has dominated the national conversation for too long.
Fun fact: there were more divorces granted in 2015 alone than there are gay couples.

Vote Yes and it's one less thing this group can leverage to stoke their hysterical victim complexes.
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>>136909134
>has never been replicated

Ok lets just say I go to my university to publish or submit a research study or assessment using non peer reviewed journal articles sighting the hypothetical existence of something from one study in 1993 that has never be replicated. Even though I can only use journal articles published in the last 5 years. I go ahead and use that 1993 source and try pass it off as scientific fact. I then get hauled up to the head of Faculty and done for academic misconduct and that's permanently marked on my record because I disgraced myself by trying to pass off some specious unsubstantiated bullshit based on memes as science.

If something can't be replicated and tested, it's hypothetical. Merely a theory, not fact. If it's never been replicated and can't be tested there IS NO EVIDENCE.
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>>136900187
I'm voting yes because the government shouldn't restrict anyone's freedom if it doesn't hurt anyone
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>>136909939
Expanding > It's just a way for people with extreme fetishes to push their fetishes onto the rest of society, ultimately poisoning it. Won't be long til they're trying to normalize and legalize pedophilia.
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>>136910085
7% of millennials are affected:

https://www.prri.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PRRI-Millennials-Web-FINAL.pdf

Blacks got rights 50 years ago and they are 12% of the population.
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>>136900187
Who gives a fuck what fags do. They can leave each other's possession to each other, if they want. I don't care.

I have to say though that Christians are making themselves look really fucked up and hateful through this campaign. I'm pretty sure that the main result of all this will be a decline in affiliation among young people with different monotheisms. Can religious people be just a little bit less retarded?

Anyway, the Australian way has always been a bit hedonistic and kinky. We're fucking convicts and bushrangers, after all. Captain Moonlite is one of our heroes.

Also, the government is patently wasting money on using the method they think is most likely to fail, but I think most voters have seen through this already and see it as retarded government money wasting.
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>>136901530
>Being this much of a mongrel autist.
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realize that homosexuality is a fetish, nothing more, nothing less.

Gay marriage is really just friends with legal benefits as it does nothing to procreation thus doesn't contribute to society while taking up the financial benefits of a combined couple. since no kid is involved there's no staple holding the union together and, since is a fetish, there's no standard for divotion and commitment to a monogamous relationship ship.

I also see it as the gays' way of sticking it to the church for denouncing their lifstyle by forcing them to perform their most santamonious ritual for whom they detest.
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>>136910137
Except they will push for themselves to be a protected class and not allowing them to marry will be hate speech. They already have civil unions. They are just pushing for this to attack christianity.
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>>136901530

Everyone said the same when marrying somebody from a different religion or from an unknown house/family then they said it when people married someone from a different country then they said it for someone from a different race.
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>>136910102
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/11/study-gay-brothers-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality

It has been replicated independently. That assertion was erroneous because it hadn't been at the time of publication of that article.
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>>136910175
Don't put blacks in with your group faggot.
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Vote Yes and I get to assblast a bunch of hyper moralists who don't even live up to the high standards they proclaim others must meet.

Vote No and I get to assblast a bunch of hyper moralists who don't even live up to the high standards they proclaim others must meet.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E-P_g75ciM
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>>136910137

I'm sorry, but enforcing religious entities to alter their faith by law isn't hurting anyone?

I'm not religious even in the slightest, but that's bullshit.
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>>136903925
big if true
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>>136910395
kek
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I'm gay and I'm voting no out of pure spite.

If I can't be happy nobody can.
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>>136909187
they are stealing the word and destroying its meaning to suit themselves, that is not nice

if someone wants your car, do you give them the keys?

women only know how to get fucked
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>>136906072
Honestly, you sound like a cunt who is full of the hatred you claim to deplore. Double curses on you for being a hypocrite too. Take a chill pill.

>>136907103
>Gays have perfectly adequate options outside of marriage
No they don't. The most obvious one is property and estate rights. They deserve to have the same rights for a deceased partner as heterosexuals do. If someone dies suddenly and paperwork isn't all completely in order, then this shouldn't mean the remaining partner is deprived of property or income. Same rule as for heteros.
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>>136910300
People will continue down the slippery slope until people decide to prevent moral degradation. It won't stop if you just sit back and wait, the left will always find a new degenerate cause to champion.
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>>136910395
It's usually these people with the super rhetoric that are doing the very thing they hate on, it's a coping strategy so they don't have to feel bad for their actions.
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>>136900187
from plebbit

https://strawpoll.com/rskayz9r
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>>136910175
100% of kids growing up in germany in the 40s were hitler youth

100% of kids growing up in russia in the 50s were communist

you can brainwash people into anything when young, and you're already ruining the planet
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>>136910281
>>136910281
If churches want to stay part of the marriage act and have government granted rights they should have to marry any citizen. If they don't want to marry Gay couples they can leave the marriage act
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>>136910175
Millenials aren't the total population. The issues I listed affect all generations and future generations.
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>>136900187
Voting no, literally no reason other than the fact homos are the most narcissistic, fucking irritating people on the planet. I cannot walk anywhere in Sydney without a petition, protest or shitty art installation being shoved in my face. The news is just saturted with this non-issue, meanwhile WWIII is brewing and europe is being torn apart. No coverage.

Does this make me a "shitlord"? Maybe, I don't really care, if you wanted my support maybe gays shouldn't have been the most childish, demanding, pathetic, ANNOYING group of narcissists on the planet. So I'm voting no, and so are plenty of people I know for that exact reason, just so they are made aware that nobody owes them shit. Sucks doesn't it?
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>>136910591
At what point did I express hate for gays? I only outlined their faults. You can talk negatively of people without hating them, y'know. I have no problem with admitting that I am a hypocrite - everyone is hypocritical to some degree, it's part of human fallen nature.
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>>136910870
The only reason the state needs to be involved in marriage is to increase the fertility rate. Why should we give gays tax breaks that could be better spent on the next generation.
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>>136910393
I never thought of it like this. Either way there will be an agreeable result
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>>136911050
they already get tax breaks. by that logic we shouldn't let childless couples marry either, or couples with barren men or women. this also ignores adoption
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>>136909196
there no possibly about it. he is
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>>136909939
Jesus christ, 10/10 vid.
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>>136909939

oh jeez. ye this vid i think has made me lean towards no.
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>>136910085
Not a fallacy at least anymore.
It's the Slippery Slope Argument now lamalama.
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>>136911346
The tax breaks should be based on whether or not you have children. The union is only of religious significance and shouldn't be corrupted to placate a bunch of degenerates.
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what was that movie with hoges pretending to be in a poof mariage for the gibs? is that all the fags want this shit for. cant they do that in a defacto relationship anway shits fucked
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>tfw fag
>tfw alienated all my fag friends with a drunken Facebook rant against gag marriage

Oops haha
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Dont be surprised however when the result doesn't make a difference. The book of Revelation in the bible shows what the world will be like in the end times, and we are living in those times.
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>>136910318
>While our study results provide further evidence for early (prenatal) biological influences on variation in male sexual orientation, we also emphasize that genetic contributions are far from determinant but instead represent a part of the trait's multifactorial causation, both genetic and environmental.

From a different study where THEY HAVE FOUND A GENETIC LINK

>It is asserted that the major cause of male homosexuality is due to failure of masculinisation of the male brain due to temporary but critical prolactin secretion from microprolactinoma present in their pituitary glands. Genes appear to be involved in the production of these tumours and sometimes in their demise.

>It is now generally accepted that masculinisation of the male brain takes place during a critical period commencing in the third trimester and continuing for 2–3 months postnatally. This process is activated by elevation of testosterone levels during this period. If this elevation does not occur, then masculinisation will not take place and will result in the biological development of homosexuality in the mature male.

http://www.medical-hypotheses.com/article/S0306-9877(16)30220-1/abstract

So basically homosexuals are produced by low testosterone because of tumors on the pituitary glands during foetal development. What other medical conditions can you think of that have tumors as a clinical feature? That's right. CANCER.
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>>136911035
You just sound like you're motivated by hatred for your colleague. So what if he's an annoying loud mouth? If your values and beliefs are sound, you don't have to give a shit. But here you are on /pol/ sharing whiny anecdotes that make you sound like a big girl's blouse. I think you're butthurt and that's what's motivating your position, based on what I can tell from the words you've shared.
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>>136910896
No but the point is more people are open about their sexuality now than among the older generations and clearly they have reached a critical enough mass to start demanding equal rights in developed countries.

> tumors on the pituitary glands
lol wut

where does it say that?
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>>136912048
No one knows that day or hour, but it certainly feels like it is drawing near.
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>>136911825
I had sex out of wedlock, should I not be allowed to be married? I think you need to realise that people tolerating your kooky religion doesn't mean we care about it. it's like your fighting a moral battle you've already lost
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>>136910591
Did you watch the video, pissant?
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Only vote no if you want this issue to suck up every cm^3 of political oxygen for another 4 years before it gets legalised anyway.
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>>136900187

It's already proven postal vote can be cheated, mentally ill fags and trannies are going to rip up votes
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>>136900187
I'm going to vote no. I have nothing against gay people but I know this is going to be used against the rest of the population somehow, especially when it comes to freedom of association and free speech.
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>>136912302
Equal rights such as? You don't produce children so marriage isn't any use to you, I don't have anything against gay/lesbians but your starting to fucking annoy EVERYONE
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>>136912302
You ever get "Witches Milk" as a kid? I swear I did once in preschool but I'm not gay.
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>>136900187
vote for it. Its happening eitherway, Labor will take it to the next election. By voting for it you remove it as a issue and it takes steam out of the ALP and now the election can be had on real terms rather then this social policy shit.
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>>136912279
Nope. He was perfectly willing to tolerate homos right up to the point they showed intolerance for his religion. And that's what sodomites do, they try to destroy anything which is decent anything which holds society together just because they feel it doesn't benefit them.

You'd think after being given rights they would be respectful, they've had decades to learn to be tolerant of decency but sadly no, not in their nature. Voting no on this one, sorry faggots.
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>>136900187
that fleg is exceptionally gay
Absolutely fabulous
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>>136912739
Weasel words.

Link to study?

I've never heard that before.
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>>136900187
>>136912788
Lolbertarians are a myth like free markets.
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>>136912493
PC culture will be well on it's way out in 4 years so it will be easy to tell them to fuck off. Can't undo the sodomite's attack on religion easily.

Also implying faggot leftists aren't already taking up every cm^3 of political oxygen and won't continue to do so even if they get their way on this.

The deterioration of society stops here.
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>>136912822
Thats fucking easy as shit especially with the high heels, he didn't even last fucking 10 seconds in that squat like position fucking weak mongrol
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>>136912939
>http://www.medical-hypotheses.com/article/S0306-9877(16)30220-1/abstract
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>>136912402
>Did you watch the video, pissant?
Nah, tl;dr. Summary?

>>136912805
Honestly, this is what makes you sound butthurt. You're a whiner. This guy started oversharing his opinions and you should've ignored him as irrelevant. But you didn't, and now you're oversharing here in a way that makes it seem you're preoccupied and have more hatred than is due. I think you're fully butthurt and a big moaning girl. You're the one who needs to learn to shut up. Who gives it shit about who does what sexual thing with whom, so long as everyone is adult and consenting. And attaching some property inheritance rights to that makes no difference to you either.

Can you show me that you're not just a massive whiner and that your ethics come from a better place than your own bum? I suspect you can't. Your views are based on complaints about shit that shouldn't make a difference to you, which is a good indication of being a whining zealot.
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>>136910175
>An american survey of 2000 is enough to set a rate for an entire international generation
homosexuality has always been 1%-3% it's not going to change in a generation you delusional cocksucker, fuck off back to your discord you disease ridden degenerate.

there is no benefit to marrying in Australia and the last census shows there are only 50,000 people in gay relationships, that's 0.3% of the population, (((they))) want to destroy traditional society and rebuild it in their own degenrate view. Just look around the world, none of them have stopped at gay marriage and have more on to even more nonsense

You faggots aren't going to convince anyone here to vote for your jewish agenda. The only redpilled faggots are the ones that suicide
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>>136913198
>9gag
you LARPing faggots aren't fooling anyone
>/pol/
>voting for degenerate, subversive faggots
Top kek
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>>136912939
>Weasel words

I might add it's unfortunate for you that full text is locked behind academic portals. I can't link to that. But what you can do is click on their references or citations to cross reference anything they say to find out where they're sourcing their information.
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>>136913191
So the guy did no testing to confirm this, this is just his crackpot theory that hasn't been independently validated by anyone else but I'm supposed to accept this? WTF is "witch's milk"? I couldn't find a link to who this guy is but he sounds a bit nutty.

Do you have a single other source suggesting tumors cause being gay?
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>>136913418
>you LARPing faggots aren't fooling anyone
Don't you have something better to be doing on a Friday, Tony?
Also, about 90 per cent of people under 25 in Australia support gay marriage. What happened to you to put you in the ten per cent?
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>>136913440
This seems like an especially specious claim not backed by any hard evidence:
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>>136913419
I can read it on scihub
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>>136913568
Again this is weasel words. He isn't saying this study from 2011 proves this, he is just claiming de novo belief.
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>>136910591
Wrong on all counts homo
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>>136913198
>wahahah sodomites can't constantly shit on religion whenever they want with impunity
Someone needs to learn to take dicks in the arse and leave it at that, instead of also whining until the rest of society does too.

HAHAHAHHA NO GAY MARRIAGE FOR YOU FAGGOT
Get over yourself. I don't care how much you whine you won't get your way.
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>>136913521
I've got gay cancer and I will die so will you - Aids patient 0.
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>>136913169
H-...how do you know that?
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>>136913713
>homo
Honestly, no homo. I grew up in a homophobic rural environment in NSW and it took me many years to work out that it was a completely irrational and useless prejudice. I think it's the only real belief that's behind opposing gay marriage.

Otherwise, who gives a fuck if gay people can pass on property and estate stuff to their partners automatically? That's the main practical issue that all this is about.

PS -- this book is real. I think it exists for a good reason.
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Sorry fags, shouldn't have hitched your fagwagon to the progressive agenda. You made your bed, now you can get ass cancer in it
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>>136913910
>What is a civil union.
Begone homo, AIDS has addled your brain
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I'm leaning towards not giving a fuck, I'd rather not participate in the farce that is this vote. Like it matters anyway, fags are gonna get to marry eventually and divorce rates will skyrocket soon after.
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>>136913763
>Someone needs to learn to take dicks in the arse and leave it at that, instead of also whining until the rest of society does too.
Honestly, the gays are not trying to force their dicks up your bum. This is just your homophobic fear speaking. You have an anal preoccupation that comes to the fore when confronted with the idea of people who enjoy anal stimulation and anal sexuality. But honestly, who gives a fuck? Let people pass on their estates after death to whoever their main partner is and let's just move on as a country without spending a stupid $60 million to have homophobia-laced discussions.

Honestly, apart from your anal hangups, why would you want to oppose the gays marrying each other?

>>136913864
>I've got gay cancer and I will die so will you
Sorry to hear it. And yeah, I think we'll all die one die. Sucks to not be immortal.
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>>136913440
>>136913568

Well look at his references. You see my issue with basing work on some study from 30 years ago? It makes you sound delusional.
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>>136900187

We have to vote no.

Faggots can marry in New Zealand, that can be their gay Paradise.

Very short flight.

We are losing control of the country to feminists, gays, and refugees.
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>>136914000
>>What is a civil union.
>Begone homo, AIDS has addled your brain
This doesn't do the trick legally. What about kids? Citizenship issues? There's no reason not to let the gays have the same legal rights as the straights. Can you give me a good reason why this shit should be more complicated or more difficult for the gays (and being Tony in a budgie smuggler isn't a legit reason)?
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>>136913910
So it's about gibs then. Fucking useless faggots

>>136914170
For me, at this point, it's purely to spite you
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>>136914170
It was a quote from the first person with aids can you not read beyond the word you?
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>>136914332
>We are losing control of the country to feminists, gays, and refugees.
But most of all we are losing control to whiny butthurt white male beta virgins. It's a fucking disgrace to the spirit of Ned Kelly.
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>>136900187
Vote no, poofters will ruin your country if you enfranchise them. We made that mistake and now they parade around the streets half naked with dildos strapped to their heads. Don't do it, make it clear that fags belong in the closet.
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>>136914473

Its a disgrace to our grandparents.

My grandfather would be vomiting in heaven right now, all his efforts.

All of our grandparents efforts. Every single one.

It's a fucking disgrace.
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>>136914375
>So it's about gibs then. Fucking useless faggots
Nah, it's just about having the same basic legal rights when people are in a lifelong committed relationship. It means letting people take care of each other and not letting the state take control to fuck things over.

>>136914375
>For me, at this point, it's purely to spite you
Thought so. You have no arguments. Honestly, this is the big issue with the plebiscite. There are no proper arguments on the No side other than supposed tradition and butthurt whining from never-fags.

>>136914391
>was a quote
Let me introduce you to this wonderful mark of punctuation: " (or if in Australia, ' )
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>>136914170
> why would you want to oppose the gays marrying each other?
It is not something to be normalised as it will lead to more degeneracy and It is disgusting.
Also there is greater agendas at work trying to push this shit. Like how womens voting rights was pushed, some may think of it as a noble cause but the truth is the motive is sinister.
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>>136914274
His sources are mostly really old, and there's been no independent replication of this finding.

None of the sources even deals with gay people directly. Seems like he has an agenda to push.
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>>136900851
>posting known pedophile rings
why?
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>>136914734
>muh rights
You have the right to be an hero, try it.

>lifelong
Lol
>committed
Bigger lol

Defacto status gives you all the "rights" you need.
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>>136914356
Why should their existence be tolerated in the first place famalama.
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>>136914718
>Its a disgrace to our grandparents.
I don't know which country you grew up in, but there have been gay Australians for a very long time.

Again, who cares? It's just shit about humanity and what humans do.
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>>136914801
http://pastebin.com/aiTLKLJc
https://www.scribd.com/document/263982922/Dangers-of-Homosexuality
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/4/26/970357/-
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172711/posts
http://www.theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/SocrdsHowAmerGay.htm
https://www.amazon.com/Homosexuality-American-Psychiatry-Politics-Diagnosis/dp/0691028370
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology#Mental_health_issues
https://www.rt.com/news/356848-study-sexual-orientation-fixed/
http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/6651-the-institute-for-advanced-homophobia/
http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/2007/02/aids_and_immune.html
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=2625
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/05/11/science/new-homosexual-disorder-worries-health-officials.html?pagewanted=2
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/lgbt.2014.0020#utm_source=PR&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=LGBT
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/hosx_lifspn.htm
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2008/12/the-longevity-of-homosexuals-before-and-after-the-aids-epidemic/
http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/27/same-sex-couples-not-as-healthy-as-heterosexual-married-couples/
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/100424
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/8/gay-couples-children-oppose-same-sex-marriage-tell/
http://www.tradyouth.org/2015/09/the-majority-of-homosexuals-are-spreading-hiv-on-purpose-and-its-being-covered-up/
http://dailysignal.com/2012/06/11/new-research-on-children-of-same-sex-parents-suggests-differences-matter/
http://www.libertynewsnow.com/tag/serial-killers
http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html#source
http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/the_no_difference_theory_is_dead
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4660555/
https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
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http://sciencenordic.com/lets-use-porn-change-sexual-behaviour
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/drug-use-seven-times-higher-among-gays-8165971.html
https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2009/07/pdf/lgbt_poverty.pdf
http://psychcentral.com/lib/higher-risk-of-mental-health-problems-for-homosexuals/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2589133
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/143/2/188.short
http://www.tldm.org/News20/EveryoneShouldKnowTheseStatisticsOnHomosexuals.htm

Chakraborty, A. et al. Mental health of the non-heterosexual population of England. British Journal of Psychiatry, Vol. 198, February 2011, pp. 143-48.
King, M. et al. A systematic review of mental disorder, suicide, and deliberate self-harm in lesbian, gay and bisexual people. BMC Psychiatry, Vol. 18, August 2008, 8:70.
King, M. and Nazareth, I. The health of people classified as lesbian, gay and bisexual attending family practitioners in London: a controlled study. BMC Public Health, Vol. 6, May 2006, 6:127.
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>>136915009
C'mon I went to the trouble of archiving my sources.

>carm as a source

I mean I suppose there's nothing wrong with religious sources but it certainly is a source of bias.
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>>136915073
Let's archive that

>http://independent co uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/drug-use-seven-times-higher-among-gays-8165971.html
https://archive.is/yHZ7l
>https://americanprogress org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2009/07/pdf/lgbt_poverty.pdf
https://archive.is/Xs9ml
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>>136914356
Oh so you want them to have kids so they can molest them now as well?
Voting no so less kids get abused.
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>>136914940
>Defacto status gives you all the "rights" you need.
Honestly, it doesn't. This is why the campaign has taken off. Citizenship and passport issues for children is one of the really big problems. Inheritance stuff doesn't work simply through de facto stuff either (that kicks in after six months). These are the legal reasons why this issue is an issue now, right?
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>>136915073
Ok so the only legit parts are that homosexuals have higher rates of drug abuse and depression and anxiety, which you might too if you were systematically excluded and repressed by society.
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>>136915121
Source on the differences/problems with civil unions only?
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>>136915108
>want them to have kids
Gay people have kids. The urge to reproduce isn't exclusive. It turns out that on average, gay parents turn out to be better than straight parents (probably because they're under so much pressure to do it right, if they want to do it).
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>>136915095
I actually think the religious argument was the wrong one to use against gays in the mainstream. As for that source it has been a while since I read it, but all of the ones I included were either studies or personal narratives regarding the subject. I didn't go for any Pastor Manning type arguments.
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Why isn't my sexual relationship with my hand considered a marriage?
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>>136915121
Why the fuck would anyone want to give you rights to children. You're already way overrepresented in child molestation.
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>>136915176
I don't recall where I read it, but in one of those links it checks US rates against that of the liberal and tolerant Europe about 20 years ago. Basically there was no difference. Which is actually notable considering how much more diseased and criminal Blacks in the US would be gay or straight.
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>>136915271
Its just way more helpful if you have specific articles that are recent about this stuff rather than well we did a survey at a pride parade or a gay bar 20-30 years ago types of info.

Like the middle table says DSM 3 which hasn't been used in decades.
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>>136915372
US rates of drug use?
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>Mr Turnbull says he has supported same-sex marriage "much longer" than Mr Shorten
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>>136915395
Some of those are recent, but others go back a long time. Honestly of all of them the MPC thread was probably the most enlightening.

>>136915417
I actually think that it was life expectancy that was about equal in the US and Europe. HIV- gay men had a life expectancy of 44 and lesbians lived to be 46 IIRC.
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>>136914170
Evidence is your consistent hatred of Christianity and general decency. Didn't have to do that but nooo you couldn't resist and couldn't learn not to in decades.
Gays spread degeneracy, we should be defunding AIDS research as well, we spend billions on that shit and you faggots practice sodomy so much that AIDS actually evolved to become resistant to the treatment.
Money down the drain, just like this plebiscite.
You'll whine if you don't have gay marriage and you'll whine if you do. Let's just stop spending any money on a black hole which only really negatively affects the rest of society shall we.
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>>136910137
If I fuck your neighbours children (with their """consent""") it doesn't hurt anyone.
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>>136915236
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>>136915541
Oh but HIV + people have a life expectancy of like 75 now.

http://aidsmap.com/life-expectancy-now-considerably-exceeds-the-average-in-some-people-with-hiv-in-the-us/page/2816267
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>>136915202
>Source on the differences/problems with civil unions only?
Friends in the US who are a lesbian couple and had massive trouble with all sorts of legal stuff when they returned to Australia. Marriage is a legal deal. The ceremonial stuff doesn't matter. The debate is all about making sure that couples get the same basic rights, whether straight or not.
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>>136910195
Its an illusion of hate mate. Being against gay marriage doesn't mean you hate gays.
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A child needs a father and a mother.
There is no dispute whatsover that niggers are niggers because they have no fathers in their lives.
2 dads or 2 mothers are not a substitute.
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>>136915587
Happy, faggot??
'Children raised by same-sex couples healthier and happier, research suggests'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-05/children-raised-by-same-sex-couples-healthier-study-finds/5574168

Children of same-sex parents enjoy better levels of health and wellbeing than their peers from traditional family units, new Australian research suggests.

In what they described as the largest study of its type in the world, University of Melbourne researchers surveyed 315 same-sex parents and 500 children about their physical health and social wellbeing.

Lead researcher Doctor Simon Crouch said children raised by same-sex partners scored an average of 6 per cent higher than the general population on measures of general health and family cohesion.
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>>136915631
What sorts of troubles?
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>>136915121
No it isn't it's because gays can't help but destroy insitutions society is built upon and spread degeneracy because they want more little boys to molest.
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>>136915618
>This is reflected in the fact that if people died of AIDS-related illness, they tended to do so much younger. Models were done that, based on the mortality rates seen, projected the likely future mortality rates of people over 70. These showed that in people who started cART at a CD4 count above 350 cells/mm3 and who died of AIDS, there was a 50% chance of death by the age of 54: in those who died of non-AIDS-related illness, 50% was not reached till the age of 75, no different from HIV-negative people. Thus people starting ART early were living near-normal lifespans as long as they avoided early death from AIDS, probably reflecting the generally improved lifespan and vastly decreased AIDS incidence of those who survived beyond the early 2000s.

Now this is interesting. AIDS seems to either kill quickly or not at all. Thanks
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I'm going to enrol just so I can vote no for faggot "equality". Homosexuals are truly disgusting
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>>136915770
How on earth can the absence of the norm of both father and mother equate to family cohesion?

Utter bullshit.
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>>136915914
(((Cohension)))
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co6vnhrU9dg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtvIO6jNKco

Reminder that Australia ranks lower for education than some muslim dictatorships.
Reminder that this is propagated by single mothers who want the state to be the sole provider, educator, and source of entertainment.
Reminder that this is facilitated by the political class and they benefit in many ways.
Reminder that this is not about gays or children at all.
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>>136915770
>Melbourne
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>>136915875
I feel like that's more indicative of how effective the drug therapy is for it, assuming you actually take it regularly.
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>>136915819
>What sorts of troubles?
The kid was born in America to one Australian parent and one non-Australian. The birth mother wasn't Australian. The non-birth mother went through official adoption, but then when they came back to Australia there were all sorts of issues with getting an Australian passport, getting medicare, and everything else. Basically the second mother was treated as a stranger who had almost kidnapped the kid, whereas all the US documentation was totally in order. Australia is running behind the world on this. Shit is retarded.

>>136915833
>destroy insitutions society is built upon
Such as? The gays wanting same-sex marriage tend to be the conservative ones (Barry Humphries style).
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Reminder that private education has always outperformed public education and they're literally SIEZING SCHOOL FEES FROM PRIVATE SCHOOLS
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The premier national event for fags in Australia is the Sydney Mardis Gras. A greater example of degeneracy you cannot find. This is the "height of gay culture" and they push their children to participate.

It's the equivalent of a hetero Dad taking his kids on a footy club trip to Thailand, which would rightly be described as disgusting.
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>>136915914
>Utter bullshit.
A shame you haven't conducted your own study to support your garbage opinion.

>>136916014
>>Melbourne
How did you know?
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>>136916024
Also that it seems to be more effective in men which could mean a lot of things. Since men are more likely to have HIV the research on them could be more complete. Women might be dying of other issues more considering HIV+ women use drugs at a higher rate than similar men. Or maybe that women forget to take their pills more.
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>>136916064
Were they married in the us?
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>>136912392
I'm a atheist. but its their thing. If marriage means nothing to you why get married. Just get a civil union.
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>>136915770
No faggot. Ever since the infection of the humanities by post modernism 'sociological' studies aren't worth the same amount of toilet paper.
You can thank Michel Foucalt for that, a literal faggot who died of AIDS. Lets all thank that particular faggot for the amount of degeneracy he was able to spread and how much he was able to destroy society before AIDS finally stopped him.
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>>136915770
>Self reported happiness
>Self reported happiness of a child

Denmark ranks highest for happiness and anti-depressant use.
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>>136916033
>Sociological studies since the advent of post modern infection of
This is psychology, which has nothing to do with Foucault or postmodernism, and not sociology.

Poor attempt at ad hominem dismissal. 0.1/10. Try again.
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Vote no. Don't believe that if you concede them things like this they will be satisfied. Every single society destroying idea in the last 50 years has been gradual. In the USA, first it was gay marriage, and now trannies are becoming accepted and more common. Mardi gras is disgusting.
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>>136916150
It counts as a duty for gays in the army and the taxpayer pays for the flights, booze, and orgy.
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>>136916187
Yeah.

>>136916276
was for >>136916251

>>136916267
>Denmark ranks highest for happiness and anti-depressant use.
Honestly, Denmark seems pretty cool. I want to eat at Noma one day.
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>>136916064
ALL faggots want it you retard.
How many faggots are going to vote yes on this referendum? Practically all of them.
A minority of them actually get married because that isn't the point.
Sound like it doesn't make sense? MAYBE THERE IS ANOTHER REASON THEY WANT IT.
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>>136900187
as soon as gay marriage is passed indoctrinating children in more "safe schools" programs will be next and then transgender kids will be as big a thing here as it is in california.
is that what you want
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Voting NO
fucking poofs and fuck their poof agenda I'm sick of hearing about this fucking garbage
they can get their equal rights as (far as the law is concerned) elsewhere
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>>136916289
I love how you imply continued shared occupation of the same area.

>>136916384
Denmark ranks highest for self reported happiness and ranks highest for anti-pressant usage.
I'm pretty sure it's in the top 3 countries for suicide too.
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>>136916474
It's already happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hhnL5BlvQw
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>>136916154
You obviously do not have children. They instantly, instinctively recognise the difference between parents and seek the gender-specific differences in behavior hungrily.

I know 2 dykes with kids. Both wracked with problems. The boy gravitates to me whenever he can, desperate for adult male company as I'm sure he does with any other passing adult male. The girl is wracked with anxiety in the presence of males.

What a disaster. You disgust me for supporting this.
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>>136916449
>ALL faggots want it you retard.
No, the radical, experimental ones don't want orthodox social institutions. Have you ever gotten to know a community of gay people before? They span the full political spectrum. The ones advocating for gay marriage are on the conservative side. Most of them probably vote liberal too and live in Toorak or on the north shore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrD8zvCUtWc
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>>136916483
>I'm pretty sure it's in the top 3 countries for suicide too.
Denmark isn't even in the top 100 countries, you ignorant lying faggot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
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>>136916569
give a single fucking inch to faggots and they will immediately come after your children.
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Reminder that gay marriage is a communist take over.
The concept of equality doesn't exist, communists try to use this false ideal to degenerate the current society. Societies best defence against communism is returning back to any form of religion (no religion ever has had equality as a virtue). This is why communists try to attack marriage. If you don't know what I'm talking about see Yuri the ex KGB agent and his warning. Also its a lot harder to take away someones false sense of rights than it is to give it to them, so gay marriage needs to be resisted as much as possible because the only way this leftist neurosis will end is through violence.
>but muh slippery slope fallacy.
Its not a slippery slope when theres obvious evidence that theres an agenda. The Soviet Union had psyop techniques done on the West back when the baby boomer generation were becoming "educated" and now this is the generation that has passed on the same way of thinking. Another reason that we know it will lead with beastiality and paedophilic acceptance is by looking at the USA and Canada. You have kids "rebelling" against their parents because they want to be transexual so they go to other transexual men/women for "guidance". And those who have looked into pedogate know that pedophiles hide behind being transexuals. Its not appropriate that these issues are leading to our childrens consciousness. Safe schools in VIC is an example of where this is already heading. Anyone who is LGBT and understands this will oppose gay marriage (unless they're demoralised - which some of them are).
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>>136916384
Then it seems like that could easily be changed by the immigration dept without needing to touch the marriage act. Problem solved
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>>136916577
>What a disaster. You disgust me for supporting this.
Thanks for your anecdotes. My own anecdotes and observation go in the opposite direction. Fortunately we have researchers with large data sets to sort out actually what's going on, meaning we don't have to rely on the retarded and biased opinion of individual faggots.
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Let them have their endless bum sex and spend their parenting instincts on a poodle.

No straight man wants to get married. It is an act of sacrifice to provide the stable environment necessary to produce the next generation of humans.
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>>136900187
Don't do it. Cause next they're a legit family and the government starts fucking with the terms mom and dad and saying kids don't need both and it goes to hell just don't.
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>>136916670
Hence "pretty sure" They're defninitely up there for anti-depressant usage. They don't even know what happiness is.
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>>136916791
What did (((they))) do to you to make you honestly believe that a child does not need both a father and mother?
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>>136916384
>post modernism infected psychology
>post modernism infected sociology
Not a lot of difference you AIDS infected freak.
Also looks like the author of that study is a literal faggot himself and it looks like his degree is in gay studies or some other shit synonymous with faggotry so doesn't sound biased at all.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/not-so-fast-that-australian-study-on-gay-parenting-tells-us-almost-nothing
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>>136916604
Poofters get wrecked!
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>>136915770
>research suggests
Lmao.
Blue-Pilled people are tpically happier.
>>136916483
>>136916577
Lel.

I would just like to say I did not appreciate your quite frankly, homophobic remarks.
Please apologize and give me the hard data.
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>>136903925
I blame this character for the current hippie liberalism of my generation
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>>136916791
If you took a large sample of dogs that couldn't stop biting their balls of you'd come to the conclusion that dogs love biting their balls off and stopping them from doing that is abuse,
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>>136916584
So according to you these liberal faggots are going to vote no to gay marriage.
Fuck off faggot, you're what happens when dicks get stuck up your arse into your internal organs too much.
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>>136916723
Why would you think that?

http://www.rslevinson.com/gaylesissues/features/collect/onetime/bl_platform1972.htm
https://archive.is/UOiJj
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>>136916929
>Hence "pretty sure"
I'm "pretty sure" you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>136916950
>Also looks like the author of that study is
Give me an analysis of the study and not the authors. If there's a fault in the study that's clear, you should be able to point it out. Otherwise, it's about a million times better than opinions and anecdotes from random anons.

Also, my grandma used to eat cockroaches on toast with vegemite and said they were fucking delicious. So there's that.
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>>136917061
If you then took this saple of dogs and made them stop biting their balls of and chase cats instead, you would find that after a period of time the dogs would be under much less stress than they were when they were biting their balls off.

It sounds to me that the left is saying that "What they don't know doesn't hurt them" and so therefore it's okay to allow this to happen in the environment you yourself are trying to raise children in.

Again, get this through your head. What the left is arguing with the children of gays being happier is that WHAT THE KID DOESN'T KNOW CAN'T HURT IT

This is the level of personal development these people are at.
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>>136904430
You have to be 18 to vote.
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"Show me data"
"What studies"

Good God people. You need scientific data to show you that 2 men getting married and raising kids is not disgusting?

This is an instinctive reaction. For most of humanity what ISIS does to gays has been the proper, normal reaction.

It is only recent (((conditioning))) that has changed this.
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>>136917392
I am 18. And I'm voting no. On the basis of the faggots in /r9k/. And only on that basis.
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>>136916992
>>research suggests
>Lmao.
Hahahahahaha
>Research means nothing.
>My opinion always rules.
>I am the ruling fag of the world.
>I can laugh at all elite expertise and call them blue pilled.
>They will bow down to my superior tweets and made-up knowledge.
>I am now King Dick!
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>>136917093
>7. Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.
Holy shit. They're sinister arn't they.
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>>136917182
Yeh I give you a link that shits all over it concluding that yes a complete faggot would author a study biased in favour of complete faggots and you ask for more analysis than the frankly more than enough evidence that faggots have been manufacturing bullshit studies which favour them and general degeneracy for years.
You have AIDS don't you?
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>>136917446
They've had data presented to them in this thread and they said "If you never tell the kid what a mother is, then the child can't know that it's missing a mother.

The thing is you have to maintain the absense of the KNOWLEDGE of a mother for the entire life of the child.
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>>136917061
>If you took a large sample of dogs that couldn't stop
Do you know anything about study design? Do you know what a randomised sample is? If there's a problem with the sampling in this study, then you should be able to identify it clearly without resorting to shit argument-by-analogy. The latter is always a sign you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and are probably 14yo / haven't ever read a research study before. Or both.
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>>136917540
I'm sure that's a fluke. I mean 45 years have passed.
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>>136917556
Seeing fags kiss or be physically affectionate makes me retch. Physically ill.

Forcing my children have to watch this in the street will mean blood.
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Where the fuck did it all go so wrong? How did modern western societies become so godless and depraved? The founders of this great nation would be rolling in their fucking graves if they lived to see the degeneracy that's accepted today.
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>>136917556
>lifesitenews.com/opinion
Honestly I didn't click on the link because it looks like it has about as much likely credibility as
dailymail.co.uk/opinion/faggotrants

Life is just to short, sometimes.
Give me a tl;dr, if you care.
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>>136917556
>Faggot does study
>Read it
>Absolute shit
>Can't say it's crap because you might be perceived as homophobic
>collarpull.jpg
>publish it so you don't get fired
>every reads it
>can't say it's shit because they might get perceived as being homophobic
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>>136917526
>give proofs
>>gives supporting evidence
>mockery
LMAO. Arrogant btfo, suck cock.
Now give more /supporting evidence/ otherwise you might as well fuck off with your unproved opinion.
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>>136917664
The problem is that it is not randomised like you describe, the sample is exclusively gay "parents"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-05/children-raised-by-same-sex-couples-healthier-study-finds/5574168
That's why I compared your argument to dogs biting their own balls off.

The "happiness score" is compared to the score of other studies of non-homosexual "parents". This study you are citing does not have a sample that includes both gay and straight couples.
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Also if the result is no we can just blame conservative migrants and be like sorry faggots you said you liked diversity.
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>>136917880
A single piece of supporting evidence in place of substantial or a respectable amount of supporting evidence is not proof lmao, stay triggered fag drag.
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>>136917664
A sample size of 314 out of an estimated 64,000 is like 0.5%. Again, this data you're using is like a dog biting it's own balls.
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>>136917984
Fair enough. As I see it, the study takes a sample of children of same-sex parents and measures their happiness (and other stuff). Then they compare to a randomised sample across a general population. They find that the former are happier. This seems pretty conclusive. Is there a problem with this research design that you can point to? I honestly don't think so.

I happen to suspect that the main explanation might be income based. Same-sex couples tend to be wealthier and better educated. But that's a totally separate discussion and would need to be investigated by other studies.
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There is nothing on earth like the comfort of a mother's bosom to a distressed child, apart from the feeling of euphoric salvation when a father comes to the rescue.

Children raised by gays can never experience these 2 basics.
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>>136900187
>slippery slop
is exactly what will happen when you let your nation become pozzed.

Vote no.
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>>136918179
>A sample size of 314 out of an estimated 64,000 is like 0.5%.
This is pretty good as population sampling goes. This gives an overall margin of error of about five per cent, which is highly acceptable in this kind of population research. You can draw a strong conclusion with such a small margin of error.
To check my calculations, go here: http://www.raosoft.com/samplesize.html. It's pretty straightforward for social science research.

Honestly, anon, your analogy doesn't stand up to the numbers.
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The thought of your parents having sex is a shocking revelation to those with normal parents.

Imagine the mind-blowing realisation that Daddy1 sticks his cock up Daddy2's arsehole.

If that's not enough to wreck your psyche I don't know what is.
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>>136918435
>If that's not enough to wreck your psyche I don't know what is.
How about daddy sticking his big weenie up mummy's even smaller bumpipe (and don't deny it -- it's common enough)?
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Voting yes fuck you repressed homo cunts
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Lmao... half of auspol arent even old enough to vote. Your opinion hardly matters.

Voting yes. Because i dont larp putside the interwebz
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>>136918537
That's not how it works u fucking idiot.
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>>136918710
You're not even old enough to vote. Keep larping
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>>136918182
Yes, an additional discrediting factor is that it's all self reported.

The way to do it is to have non-gays in the sample and for the METRIC to be universal across all, and then to not compare with another unrelated study so you then derive the results from the comparison.
For example if you ask 100 blokes if they'd describe their penis as "huge" odds are you'll get the answer you know you'll get.
If you then take those same 100 blokes and say "20cm is our definition of huge and we will use the same ruler for all penises" and you then measure them yourself you will get a much more accurate data sample.
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>>136900187
Vote no cos it will help put fags back into their proper place in the order of nature - getting bashed by car loads of bogans on a Saturday night.
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>>136918710
>virgin detected
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>>136918783
No gay agenda here
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>>136918812
You're not old enough to vote anyway
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>>136918887
I'm old enough to bash fags with my mates tho
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Everyone should just assume no one on /pol/ is not old enough to vote unless proven otherwise.

Voting yes
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>>136918815
Probably more so, the kid would be like "That's not what bums are for" then go hide with his hands over his bum in a cupboard.

Definitely more so than "So that's where the baby comes out and that's why we're different"

Again, your apathy for child rearing is so disgusting.

JUST BECAUSE THE A KID MIGHT HAVE A HARD TIME CONCEPTUALISING HOW A BABY IS MADE DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD GO BLAST YOUR ARSEHOLE IN FRONT OF ONE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE JUST AS HARD
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>>136918774
>For example if you ask 100 blokes if they'd describe their penis as "huge" odds are you'll get the answer you know you'll get.
This study is asking kids about their general attitude and disposition, so the analogy doesn't hold. It seems to me that the kids wouldn't have even known that issues about their family structure were being studied. To me, it appears like a pretty reliable way of getting info from kids about how their lives are going. Also, your analogy doesn't hold at all. There isn't that sort of reporter bias at work here. Can you rethink your criticism so that it is about the kids and not the parents? I think this is a genuinely important issue. If this study is right, then it tells us that heterosexual parents could get a hell of a lot better at parenting.
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>>136918390
What's your obsession with sucking fagcock?
I bet homosexuals are happier, people dealing with legitimate problems don't have time to indulge in retarded faggotry.
I don't think for this reason comparing genpop with Fags is a fair comparison.
If you can show me anything that substantiates children under fag parents are better off (not JUST happier either) such as child abuse stats, i'll smoke trap cock.
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>>136918979
>Vote no cos...
>I'm old enough to bash fags with my mates tho
Here you go guys. Your average auspol. Not old enough to vote but likes to larp about it anyway.

Voting yes, mfw i can actually vote and it will count unlike you, kid.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA VOTE NO

http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610

Children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):

Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
Have lower educational attainment
Report less safety and security in their family of origin
Report more ongoing "negative impact" from their family of origin
Are more likely to suffer from depression
Have been arrested more often
If they are female, have had more sexual partners--both male and female

Children of lesbian mothers:

Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other than entirely heterosexual
Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been "touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver."
Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been "physically forced" to have sex against their will
Are more likely to have "attachment" problems related to the ability to depend on others
Use marijuana more frequently
Smoke more frequently
Watch TV for long periods more frequently
Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense

Looks like in response to this some faggot with a degree in faggotry statistically rigs a study where he asks kids how happy they are to try and prove there is no difference between gay and straight parents without examining the later outcomes those children experience which not only doesn't prove SHIT but subsequently gets debunked anyway and faggots worldwide proclaim there is nothing wrong with them adopting kids to molest and/or feed hormone blockers.

VOTTTTEEEE NOOOOO.
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>>136919117
You're not old enough to vote either
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>>136919027
>Probably more so, the kid would be like "That's not what bums are for" then go hide with his hands over his bum in a cupboard.
Seriously, anon, there's a very good chance your parents have had butt sex. Don't be in denial. It's a growing phenomenon among younger people now too (because porn), so the rate soon will be well above fifty per cent.
'44 percent of straight men and 36 percent of straight women admitted to having had anal sex at least once in their lives.'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/anal-sex-heterosexual-couples-report_n_1190440.html
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Tfw gay male voting yes :). U mad underaged auspol?
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"The kid doesn't can't even comprehend that I'm slammin my arsehole so fuck that kid"

-The argument for gay marriage 2k17
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>>136919297
You're not even old enough to vote anyway
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>>136919045
>If you can show me anything that substantiates children under fag parents are better off (not JUST happier either) such as child abuse stats, i'll smoke trap cock.
Here's a start for you. Let me know what you make of it. Seems convincing and reliable to me. Admittedly, their interest is 'not worse off' rather than 'better off'.

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/
Overview: We identified 79 scholarly studies that met our criteria for adding to knowledge about the wellbeing of children with gay or lesbian parents. Of those studies, 75 concluded that children of gay or lesbian parents fare no worse than other children. While many of the sample sizes were small, and some studies lacked a control group, researchers regard such studies as providing the best available knowledge about child adjustment, and do not view large, representative samples as essential. We identified four studies concluding that children of gay or lesbian parents face added disadvantages. Since all four took their samples from children who endured family break-ups, a cohort known to face added risks, these studies have been criticized by many scholars as unreliable assessments of the wellbeing of LGB-headed households. Taken together, this research forms an overwhelming scholarly consensus, based on over three decades of peer-reviewed research, that having a gay or lesbian parent does not harm children.
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>>136915770
>Doctor Simon Crouch
Oy vey look at that shnozz. Hes also a gay dad, im sure he is not baised at all
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>>136919273
You trying to demonstrate how a child may have trouble conceptualising intercourse by saying my parents had anal sex just shows that you have no idea how to empathise with a foreign party. That's a criteria for mental retardation.
You're a retard mate, but you seem nice. You need to develop yourself as a person, I recommend getting one of those mental health care plans from a GP. You'll get 10 free sessions with a psychologist. In fact I recommend all people to do it.
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Does the left realise all those muzzies they let into the country will be voting no?
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>>136919662
It's so biased that you don't even have to go past the data sample itself in criticizing it.
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>>136919782
Do you realise you're not old enough to vote anyway?
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>>136919710
>That's a criteria for mental retardation.
Dude, stop trying to deny that your parents might have had butt sex. There's a good chance they have.

Also, to help you with this difficult news that you're having trouble with, I'll happily by you a couple of beers if you're in Melbourne. It'll do you good to relax a bit.
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>>136919905
*buy you
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>>136919861
Is this that meme I used to see on facebook when I was 18? You know the one where it's like "Twelvies this" and "Twelvies that"

Wow I havent seen that meme for a long time. I didn't know it came in family court flavor.
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>>136919861
Anal ravaged fag detected.

Don't worry, the filth you want to invade this country will be throwing you off buildings soon enough
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>>136920009
But its true. Youre not even old enough to vote. Keep larping while i vote yes :)
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>>136910195

Jesus Christ are you ignorant. You're just like my brother who takes a "it doesn't effect me" attitude.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Saying we're a culture of bush rangers and convicts is a total cop out.
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>>136910281

Exactly. This is a concerted, organized vendetta against specifically Christians.
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>>136920155
You're not even old enough to vote. Stop acting like you can even make a difference. Your brother is too red pilled to care unlike you. I can tell he's definitely old enough to vote
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>>136920155
He's a leftist demoralising agent. There's like 6 of them in this thread. It's a raid thread, most aussie threads are reddit screaming shit about "muh house prices"
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>>136920107
I originally was larping.
But after watching you leftypol faggots get owned this hard in this thread I genuinely believe that gay marriage should never happen and will be extremely negative for society.
Sorry you're just freaks, take solace in the fact that we don't execute you on sight any more (subject to change if Aus gets enough migrants).
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>>136920155
You just hate the Kelly gang. Clearly unaustralian.
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>>136909955
Lisa needs braces.
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>>136920386
Now you're really larping.

Cum at me bro
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>>136920212
No it's against the productive, not christians. That's all it ever was. Christians just happen to be individualistic. These people are actually superstitious regarding the state, they're actual religious fanatics.
It's single mothers want the state to be sole provider, educator, and entertainer.
They don't like that your schools are better.
They don't like that you have more material security.
They don't like that you have familial bonds.

Because they're fucking sociopaths who CONSCIOUSLY DO THIS, THEY INFLICT WHAT THEY DO KNOWING HOW TERRIBLE IT IS AND THEY DO IT ON PURPOSE
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>>136920342
>He's a leftist demoralising agent.
And the same to you too, anon. I'm just arguing the obvious position, which is that opposing gay marriage is pretty much only being supported by the over-65 crowd and that Australia's values have moved on to a point that it now doesn't matter to anyone if fags want to be fags.

Pretty interestingly, no one itt has presented a really robust argument opposing gay marriage. It's mostly just whining.
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