More Gay People Killed So Far in 2017 Than All of 2016

>>136899700
BENIS

Homicide isn't allowed, but it happens. Gays shouldnt be murdered, they should be tried and executed by a Christian government

>>136899827
>Christcuck
Voluntarily cucking yourself to a deity, get off my board

>>136899827
Sure, if you can provide me one (1) authentic piece of historical evidence that Jesus of Nazareth existed.

>>136899700
>excluding what Muslims did, more gays were killed this year
The faggots killed this year were also probably killed by mudshits. Not that I particularly care, as you're all a bunch of lunatics anyway.
Fuck off.

>>136900025
the Holy Bible

>gay people
>lgbt
pick one sweetie

>>136899700
Are you excluding pulse because it was a Muslim?

>>136900025
The Talmud.

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>>136900025

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>>136899700
am I supposed to care?

>>136900094
>>136900192

Historical fiction.

Commissioned by the Romans and written in Italy by Jewish traitors.

>>136900161
Does not mention Jesus of Nazareth

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>>136900424
Fag

>>136899700
>'cisgender gay men'
Fuck the fuck off

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>>136900424
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus#Evidence_of_Jesus
literal google search, lazy cunt

>>136899945
This aint your board, atheist nigger lover.

>>136902476
Yeah and none of that is authentic. It is all Christian apologetics.

>still not all of them

wake me up when every sodomite has been purged

>>136899700
>More Gay People Killed So Far in 2017 Than All of 2016
>if you remove over half the 2016 number
Oh fuck off

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>>136902702
>tacitus and josephus
>christian apologetics
retard detected

>>136902883
this gif is from the old atomwaffen twitter, lmao the guy filming is in jail now.

>>136902939
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/josephus-etal.html

You seriously don't think Christians were capable of forging entries to existing writers?

At face value, Josephus appears to be the answer to the Christian apologist's dreams.

In a single paragraph (the so-called Testimonium Flavianum) Josephus confirms every salient aspect of the Christ-myth:

1. Jesus's existence 2. his 'more than human' status 3. his miracle working 4. his teaching 5. his ministry among the Jews and the Gentiles 6. his Messiahship 7. his condemnation by the Jewish priests 8. his sentence by Pilate 9. his death on the cross 10. the devotion of his followers 11. his resurrection on the 3rd day 12. his post-death appearance 13. his fulfillment of divine prophecy 14. the successful continuance of the Christians.

In just 127 words Josephus confirms everything – now that is a miracle!
BUT WAIT A MINUTE ...

Not a single writer before the 4th century – not Justin, Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Cyprian, Arnobius, etc. – in all their defences against pagan hostility, makes a single reference to Josephus’ wondrous words.

The third century Church 'Father' Origen, for example, spent half his life and a quarter of a million words contending against the pagan writer Celsus. Origen drew on all sorts of proofs and witnesses to his arguments in his fierce defence of Christianity. He quotes from Josephus extensively. Yet even he makes no reference to this 'golden paragraph' from Josephus, which would have been the ultimate rebuttal. In fact, Origen actually said that Josephus was "not believing in Jesus as the Christ."

Origen did not quote the 'golden paragraph' because this paragraph had not yet been written.

It was absent from early copies of the works of Josephus and did not appear in Origen's third century version of Josephus, referenced in his Contra Celsum.

>>136899700
Omar "Suck a cock, get the glock" Mateen would like to have a word with you

>>136903112
Christianity has no part in Tacitus's history of the Caesars. Except for one questionable reference in the Annals he records nothing of a cult marginal even in his own day.

Sometime before 117 AD, the Roman historian apparently wrote:

"Nero looked around for a scapegoat, and inflicted the most fiendish tortures on a group of persons already hated for their crimes. This was the sect known as Christians. Their founder, one Christus, had been put to death by the procurator, Pontius Pilate in the reign of Tiberius. This checked the abominable superstition for a while, but it broke out again and spread, not merely through Judea, where it originated, but even to Rome itself, the great reservoir and collecting ground for every kind of depravity and filth. Those who confessed to being Christians were at once arrested, but on their testimony a great crowd of people were convicted, not so much on the charge of arson, but of hatred of the entire human race.

Their deaths were made farcical. Dressed in wild animals' skins , they were torn to pieces by dogs, or crucified, or made into torches to be ignited after dark as substitutes for daylight."

– Tacitus (Book 15, chapter 44):


As we have seen, the term 'Christian' was not in use during the reign of Nero and there would not have been 'a great crowd' unless we are speaking of Jews, not Christians. 'Jewish/Christians' – being perceived by Roman authorities (and the populace at large) simply as Jews meant that early Christ-followers also got caught up in general attacks upon the Jews.

"Their effects to dissemble their Jewish origins were detected by the decisive test of circumcision; nor were the Roman magistrates at leisure to enquire into the difference of their religious tenets."

– Edward Gibbon (Decline and Fall)

>>136903175
One consequence of the fire which destroyed much of Rome in 64 AD was a capitation tax levied on the Jews and it was the Jews – throughout the empire – who were required to pay for the city’s rebuilding – a factor which helped to radicalise many Jews in the late 60s AD.

Not for the first time would Christian scribes expropriated the real suffering of a whole people to create an heroic 'origins' fable...

No Christian apologist for centuries ever quoted the passage of Tacitus – not in fact, until it had appeared almost word-for-word in the writings of Sulpicius Severus, in the early fifth century, where it is mixed in with other myths. Sulpicius's contemporaries credited him with a skill in the 'antique' hand. He put it to good use and fantasy was his forte: his Life of St. Martin is replete with numerous 'miracles', including raising of the dead and personal appearances by Jesus and Satan.

His dastardly story of Nero was embellished during the Renaissance into a fantastic fable with Nero 'fiddling while Rome burned'. Nero took advantage of the destruction to build his 'Golden House' though no serious scholar believes anymore that he started the fire (we now know Nero was in his hometown of Antium – Anzio – when the blaze started.) Indeed, Nero opened his palace garden for temporary shelter to those made homeless.

In short, the passage in Tacitus is a fraud and adds no evidence for a historic Jesus.

>>136903085
was that the guy who killed his roommates or the one who was making a bomb?

>>136899700
This is good news. Let's hope we can get those numbers higher again in 2018. Great work so far guys!

>>136899700
>when you're so frequently hate-crimed that you gotta remove the worst mass shooting in the nation's history to find out the normal rate of being murdered.

And people still complain about pride.

>>136899700
>nice.jpg

>>136899700
Fake picture. Fake flag. Why not include the ones from 2016. The world can be fucked. I have faith. Guess who made it fucked. Benisbagoo. Because before benis could bagoo it was cucked by another species

>>136903440
are you a bot or are you just that deranged?

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http://time.com/4651122/homicides-increase-cities-2016/
>Violent Crime Is On the Rise in U.S. Cities

Violent crime has been on the rise generally for the last couple years. You're just so selfish that you only think about yourself, and not the general trend.

Also, if you want sympathy, why the fuck would you use this image? I'm not a Christian but I don't support fag marriage.

Marriage is meant to incentivize and reward having a father figure and a mother figure to birth and raise children. It's meant to normalize the nuclear family unit and monogamy.

Gay "marriage" doesn't do this and never made any sense.

>>136899700
But how many of them were killed by other gay people?

>>136903547
Archive
https://archive.is/RktK8

>>136903536
Kikes absolutely hate hearing about their own beliefs. This is why you make constant cover and say nothing exists and paste titties on top of everything and blame muslims. You literally went out of nowhere and asked women to give you permission to be Jewish. You either like men. Or you enable females. Period. What's funny is if you leave us alone you get more vag. But you dont even want it. Only women do. I dont wanna get stressed all the time and talk about this. There's no need. Continue your criminal larping

>>136903211
No, the one filming is Brandon, he's in jail for having bombmaking materials. The one who killed Jeremy and Andrew was Devon. Brandon and Devon are both in jail now though, but for separate things.

>>136899700
You're correct. The numbers are really low energy.

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>>136899945
Nailed it. Christfags are the most annoying little toadies. "Ya hear dat, what dey say about yas, Jesus? Want I should go knock a lump on is ead dere massa? Would that get me in good wit you, and makes up for all de dick strokin I been doin lookin at pics on the interwebs I hadn't owt too'ed, massa? Would it makes up for the time when I poked little brother ups the pooper and made him promiss not to tell Ma and Pa? Oh please, what do I has to do to earn your blessin, oh beautiful club-cocked massa o mine!"

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>>136903112
>denying the texts based on people not quoting and made up stories of other people meddling with the texts
the page you quoted is very misleading
all their sources are the texts they deny and a book from some modern age athiest
the claim that other people just added to the stuff they wrote cant be proven and have no historical basis so your argument is moot
i cant believe you made me spend 20 minutes reading conspiracy theories for atheists

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>>136902702
>Evidence that contradicts my views are fake.

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>>136905800
>modern age atheist

ad hominem

>>136903112
>>136903175
>>136903203
Yikes. I remember when I was 12. Things will get better man, I promise.

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>>136900025
Shroud of Turin.

>>136906332
Forgery.

>>136899827
Waste of time and money

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>>136905950
i just googled the book
its literally copy pasted to the site you linked
he also has no sources but the books he denies
again, you have nothing but conspiracies and made up stories

>>136906608
There are plenty of sources listed on the site.

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>>136899700
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jjPQ_jVlEnQ

Get some help anon

>>136899700
USA is a murder and violence infested shithole
It also has a shit ton of trannies and fags
Now go figure

>>136899700
>if you don't include most the fags that were killed last year then more fags have been killed this year than last

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>>136906684
>books they deny
>books of the guys they copy pasted from
unless you want to quote the every page from every book the deniers wrote and hope that there is maybe something historically true in their denial then your argument is still moot my dude

>>136907011
They have footnotes on the website I haven't read the book.

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html

>>136899700

How many straight white guys died this year in comparison?

>Killing fags for religion
>Not just for the better of society

>>136906428
>Give me one good reason
>Not good enough

Actually, no. They've analyzed it and pretty much authenticated it as being genuine a few YEARS ago. They've recently pulled DNA from it, but I was not able to watch that particular one. You merely asked for evidence. Though there is currently no "incontrovertible" evidence, much of what there is correlates with various documented accounts. You're nothing but a faggot looking for a justification you'll never find.

>"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." -- Thomas Aquinas ["For those who understand no explanation is necessary. For those who do not understand no explanation is possible."]

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>>136907208
their footnotes contain no evidence for their claims
all they have are conspiracies based on literally a few maps which dont show a place
if the website wasnt complete bullshit then maybe it would gain much more attention and there wouldnt be millions of christians today
all you and your website do is claim that everyhting is forgery based on conspiracies ad literal made up stories
also what this guy said>>136907628
im going to sleep now, thanks for wasting my time

>>136907628
But previous scientific studies have suggested the cloth, which appears to be imprinted with the face of a man, may in fact be from the 13th or 14th century - centuries after Jesus is believed to have died.

One study found the cloth had been manufactured in India.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/shroud-turin-blood-torture-victim-research-elvio-carlino-jesus-tomb-a7850621.html

>>136907799
I think the biggest evidence of fraud is that Jesus claimed the Temple in Jerusalem would be destroyed. That is definitely evidence to me the story was written after 70 CE.

>>136906522
It's much less expensive to kill a man than to pay for his life in prison, unless you're saying we shouldn't prosecute homosexuals at all

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>>136899700
Let's keep this up!

So long as they're being killed by Christians and not Muslims it's all good.

>>136907913
I'm saying trials are expensive. Maybe a public killing might give back some of the money.

>>136908084
Send them here amigo, huntings fags in the desert sounds fun

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>>136907894
>That is definitely evidence to me
again, you are claiming its forgery and you try to hold onto a conspiracy which cannot be proven which makes your claim a non argument
this is the kind of delusion you couldnt even find in a stormfag when you show him actual unfalsifiable documents on the holocaust

>>136899700
>less likely to be killed for being gay than for having nice sneakers
why is this news?

>>136908534
That Jesus supposedly died in 33 and foretold an event known to people of 70? That Flavia Domitilla was the first Christian saint? Christianity was a forgery written by Jewish traitors at the behest of the Flavian dynasty. Nobody has prior knowledge of future events.

>>136899700
>Are you excluding pulse because it was a Muslim?

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>>136900130
Yeah, that's bullshit excluding Pulse. Might as well say it never happened.

>>136908025

3%???? holy shit that's way too much, no fucking way that's true. They can't be 3% of the population..

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>>136908720
you still failed to refute the texts mentioned in the posts before
your arrogance holds no limits

>>136909150
7% of millennials:

https://www.prri.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/PRRI-Millennials-Web-FINAL.pdf

>>136909271
Josephus and Tacitus? Yes I did.

>>136899700
what is the vicinity to refugee communities of peace givers?

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>>136899945
>uses facist flag
Back to r/atheism

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>>136899700
>More Gay People Killed so Far in 2017 than all of 2016
>that number excludes the 49 people killed in the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando
>Let me just exclude all the very real metrics from 2016 that go against my liberal narrative
>Surely people will still follow along and believe my bullshit, right?
Get the fuck off of /pol/ you enormous faggot.

>>136909456
>saving the thumbnail
Please never reproduce

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>>136909312
you claimed it was forgery and then copy pasted from a webpage which has no evidence and its denial holds no historical basis
the sources the webpage gives, again, have no evidence, all circlejerk conspiracies which cant be proven which makes them irrelevant
if you consider that a refutal then congrats, get mental help

>>136909771
http://vridar.org/2015/01/16/fresh-evidence-the-jesus-passage-in-josephus-a-forgery/

>>136899700
The more the better. I intend to see to it that every last fag on the planet dies a painful death.

>>136909872
http://www.academia.edu/10463098/Josephus_s_Testimonium_Flavianum_Examined_Linguistically_Greek_Analysis_Demonstrates_the_Passage_a_Forgery_In_Toto

>>136899700

Jesus is love.
Jesus would be ok with it.

>>136907817
>using old data that has since been disproven and/or debunked.
Must suck grasping at straws.

Like what Croat-bro said >>136907799. It's time for some shuteye.

>>136910191
Please link to where the shroud of Turin was dated to the time of Jesus.

>>136899700
>be a straight man
>have no protected status in society
>understand that this means you should be respectful
>treat other straight men with respect
>stay alive

>be a faggot in 2017
>have protected status in society
>thinks this means you can be a disrespectful little faggot at no risk
>treat men with disrespect and deceit them b/c you actually think you're a woman
>be fucking murdered like the piece of shit that you are

I see nothing wrong here

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>>136909918
>The narrative grammar of the Testimonium Flavianum sets it sharply apart from Josephus’s other stories of the procuratorship of Pontius Pilate. The most likely explanation is that the entire passage is interpolated
again, he has no evidence and just claims that it is MOST LIKELY because it makes more sense to him, which is, as we all know, is not an argument
>The Jewish Antiquities would in this respect be consistent with the other chronicler of this age, Josephus’s contemporary and rival historian, Justus of Tiberias, who wrote a history of this period that conflicted with Josephus and claimed Josephus’s version to be self-serving. Justus’s work has not survived, but we know from other sources that he wrote in great detail about the exact period of Tiberius’s reign that coincided with Jesus’s ministry – and that he did not mention Jesus.13
here the guy claims josephus's stuff is wrong because a guy, whos work has not even survived, does not mention jesus
aka just guessing around and having no real evidence meaning its irrelevant
it seems to me that you are just finding those web pages and not really reading them or you're just a blind follower, which is irony in its true form

i really should have gone to sleep, i wasted my precious sleep time just to refute your bullshit sources which can be refuted by any person with iq in the double digits

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>>136902702
>alright... got to step in on this one.
believe in magic ...or not
there is a shit-ton onf evience fr the man of that name and description.

>roman sources
>jew sources, that hate his guts
>early christian sources.

argue better please

>>136899700
>that number excludes the 49 people killed in the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando.

Why is that excluded? Is it because your statement is false if it is?

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>>136899700
>33 in nation of hundreds of millions of people

>>136911034
the guy is spouting bullshit, just ignore him
i actually spent time reading his nonsense and found it holds no real evidence or arguments
he will probably link another """study""" or an article which agrees with him w/o actually reading it himself which will lead into him getting btfo'd for the xth time in this thread alone

>>136902830
This, that's like that Twitter message saying between 2005 and now, right wing terrorism has killed way more than radical Muslims. (excluding 9/11)

>>136899700
The problem is that when Christians say "marriage," they mean "holy marriage under God." When faggots say "marriage," they mean "We like to fuck each other in the ass and we want the government to recognize it and we want Christians to call it their word for 'holy marriage under God,' because fuck Christians and fuck God."

>>136899817
fpbp

>>136899827
spbp

>>136910998
Yeah it is hard to prove 2000 year old documents are forgeries. The fact that the grammatical construction of the passage mentioning Jesus was unique to the rest of the book and used grammatical constructions more popular 300 years later at the time of Eusebius and other early Christian apologists is pretty shady though.

>>136911034
There is no evidence of Nazareth being a town in 30 BCE.

There are no specific descriptions of Jesus of Nazareth but there are descriptions and likenesses of Julius Casear.

Not all Jews hated the idea of Jesus though. Some were more pro-Roman and wanted to be able to collect taxes from Judea . Josephus was an entity of the court of a Roman emperor. He was bought off and paid for. When they instituted a new tax in 64 the Jews rebelled, their temple was destroyed in 70 and the niece of a Roman emperor, Domitilla, was proclaimed the first Christian saint shortly thereafter. Romans are wealthy Jews living in Italy had every reason to forge the existence of a mythical pacifist to quell the rebellious Essenes.

Hence we see the Dead Sea Scrolls from around this time too because the Romans destroyed all extant copies of the Jewish scriptures they could find save one for their private use that was likely the basis for the Flavian forgery that is the New Testament.

>>136905445

you earned this one

>>136905950
>Only points out 1 fallacy in the entire post
>Thinks it's somehow valid

>gay dude flirts with someone not interested and won't take no for an answer
>gets killed

What do they expect? I've been sexually harassed by several gay dudes over the years and there is no consequence for them. I'm not saying murder in society should be acceptable but there needs to be stricter enforcement of laws for their behavior and that will solve the problem.

>>136912166
This is why I don't take antitheists seriously
>Show me concrete proof of Jesus
>literally the bible
>no that's fiction
>proceeds to talk about a groundless conspiracy that has no sources and expects you to believe them

>>136912166
>The fact that the grammatical construction of the passage mentioning Jesus was unique to the rest of the book and used grammatical constructions more popular 300 years later at the time of Eusebius and other early Christian apologists is pretty shady though.
quote eusebius and show me the comparrison between the paragraphs you hold to be wrong
bonus points if you dont link another misleading bs website

>.000001% of the population

Wow who cares

>>136913068
Part of the problem is they literally think the bible is just one very convincing book that was written by someone who was trying to trick everyone for financial gain, rather than a collection of 66 historical documents written by 40 people over 1500 years... This guy >>136912166 is also apparently a faggot, so he's not going to be caring about what the truth is anyway -- only about what makes his position look reasonable to himself and the uninformed.

>>136913534
basically backpeddling

Sorry about the captcha, too lazy to make a new one: http://www.strawpoll.me/13679573

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actually don't care, if fags want to marry let them but pic related

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>>136913534
he bases his opinion on a conspiracy that every text and every thing that exists that has some evidence of jesus christ is a forgery
he posts links to misleading websites which hold false and unconfirmable information and their sources also hold no proof
or articles and "studies" that are completely based on guessing and asumptions
when i asked him to quote something he keeps referencing it takes him more than 20 minutes to reply which really makes you think if he actually knows what he is talking about
why would he keep posting about eusebius and when asked to quote him or show the comparrison between the paragraphs in the texts he suddenly remains silent
poor guy probably got brainwashed by r/atheism, his friends or parents

>>136914639
I'm not an expert on the Bible or Roman history or anything but I think there are very real legitimate doubts to its historicity that you have casually brushed away.

>>136914639
I'm not even an atheist I just don't think Jesus was a real person. That isn't to say there aren't some good morals to be obtained in Christianity, just that it is not a real historical event that a man from Nazareth was crucified, did miracles, and rose from the dead.

Also I think it is really interesting the idea that Jesus was a fiction created by Jewish writers trying to suppress revolts after the destruction of the second temple and the fact that members of the Roman emperor's family at the time of said destruction were made into some of the earliest Christian saints is very odd to me.

>>136915800
You brushed off the bible as a work of historical fiction.
Early christians such as John and Stephen, and almost all of Christ's disciples suffered martyrdom because they believed in Jesus and his miracles. Why would they do that just to forge a story about a fake messiah?

>>136899700
How can we let this discrimination continue? LGBT groups want us to believe that upwards of 5% of the population is gay. If that's true, their share of murder victims should be about 800, not 28. Who is going to remedy this unfairness?

>>136899700
thank the muslims

gays for muslims!

>>136899700
BASED fag killers

>>136905800
This, also the holocaust happened. Deniers btfo

>>136899700
I like it how you try to drag Christianity into this when Islam is doing the killing

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>>136900025
I can model a government based on a combination of quotes from Hoss Cartwright on Bonanza and Chinese fortune cookie inserts. Doesn't need to be tangible, the ideology itself is real. Christ matters not in this regard.

>>136916505
Well yes. Because there were a bunch of competing factions of early pseudo-Christians who were tricked by Jews trying to suppress the Essenes and Zealots into starting a new philosophy based more on stoicism than an eye for an eye.

>>136899700
Homosexuals can't ask your imaginary friend for permission.

>>136899700
The real answer for why more and more people are becoming sick of faggots and trannies is because of all the coverage and conversation about them being the primary victims of society. The reality is everyone is being disenfranchised by the US government. Literally the government isn't acting to benefit any of its citizens and everyones pissed about it. The problem is that society, driven by the media, has chosen to single out these individuals as THE victims and thus makes it seem like others aren't currently worse off than they were 20 years ago. Everyones sick of society catering to these mentally ill people and leaving the "normal" people out to dry. A person is a person regardless of what color they are and what their sexual orientation is so they should be granted equal rights and recognition by the government that they're paying for with their tax dollars. Black people got mad 50 years ago when they weren't allowed to do what white people were allowed to do. Men today and especially white men are getting pissed because they're suddenly at a disadvantage due to bullshit practices like hiring for diversity and affirmative action allowing a less qualified person into a college or profession due to their ethnicity or sex or sexual orientation. Its complete bullshit and there will ALWAYS be racism, sexism and resentment of groups of people as long as race, sex, orientation, etc are used to determine a person's qualification for anything.

Have an honest conversation about it and treat everyone the same and this bullshit will cease. Problem is everything wrong with society these days is being blamed on straight white men and if you don't expect them to lash out back at these oppressors (which they are in todays society) then stop treating them any different than youd treat a black jew dyke.

That being said, different races/sexes, on average will be better qualified for different occupations.

>>136902702
The science is settled mate.

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>>136922081
But that's exactly the opposite of reality. There has always been a radical fringe who hated gays and wanted to wish violence against us and they still exist. They are not more numerous, simply more visible, meanwhile public opinion increases in favor of homosexuals every year.

>>136922405

There's a ceiling for issues like gay marriage, like there was for the abortion debate. (pro-choice peaked in the 90s and in the 2010s we've actually seen a decline). People who don't care about "what you do in private", or "whether gays can get married, it doesn't affect regular marriage", or "whether same-sex couples should be legal at all" have been more common especially in the last 90s but you get into the issues of parades, kids, "hate speech" laws, open faggotry, etc. and you get different results when people see how it affects them, which are never in any surveys.

Also that fringe will only grow with Islamization of the West. It was actually a fringe in Christian culture, not so much with Islam. Although if you live in the US, it might take a bit longer.