When you sow the seeds of racism... it only bears rotten fruits....

>>136897864
too bad so sad, glad they're gone

>>136897864
>picture of a machine doing the harvesting

based elon musk will BTFO immigrants

Farmers who depend on illegal laborers should face the consequences

Unfortunately, racism is economically rational. I wish it weren't so. Perhaps if niggers stop running from reality, it need not so remain.

>>136897864
haha no wonder they're so defensive towards illegal immigration, their crops rely on it

any time a leftist says california has a big ole gdp make sure to remind them it's based almost entirely off of slave labor, and if california were to secede they would become a country like thailand or vietnam

>>136897966
This

Breaking news, cotton crops rot as slavery crackdown creates slave shortage.

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Good

>>136897864
>tfw 50 cents more for my mcwhopper cuz no immigrant slaves

fuck drumpf

>>136898099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc

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If only there was a group of strong young men with no jobs that would step up and help.

>>136897966
This

>Leftists encourage slave labour of mexicans.

>>136897864

I wonder if Democrats ever wrote an article titled "Alabama crops rot as slavery crackdown creates farmworker shortage."

Upholding the law isn't racism leaf

false flag alert.
as legit as cropcircles.

>>136897864
use robots you stupid fucks.

>>136898076
Then why don't you go work on the farm you fat fuck?

>>136897864
>no one wants to do the harvesting
Pay them more than slave wages they will. and you also have advertise the job openings.

>>136897864

Good. Maybe now big agra can stop relying on exploitative practices and start developing cash crops that can actually be harvested by automation.

>>136898450
there was no labor shortage, they were just angry they had to pay niggers for their work.

>>136897864
Looks like a bunch of jobs just opened up for all those Millennials hiding in their parents' basement.

So out of one side of their face liberals insist that not paying someone $15 to press a button on a machine that cooks burgers for them. Then out of another side of their face they say that it's just plain awful that the mean old conservatives aren't letting them pay a racial group 30 cents an hour to do farm work?

Okay there, bud.

>>136898316
2 many gibs for niggers to work

>>136897864
As a farmer you play with fire you're going to get burned.

>>136897864

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/08/08/fake-news-nbc-news-phony-crop-rot-story-goes-viral/

Its ok because eventually we can build auto tractors. Give us 50 years and we won't even need farmers

>>136897864
Shortage of labor will make farmers to innovate.

>>136898573
This.

>you mean I have to actually *sacrifice* for something?! Wtf!?

>>136897864
Sounds like an argument for slavery.

>>136897864
END WELFARE. MOVE POOR PEOPLE TO FARMS.

Wait, they want a slave caste? Doesn't this kind of situation prove that a $15 minimum wage is a bad thing?

>>136897864
We have no shortage of niggers. What is the problem?

>>136897966
This

>>136897864
Cancel SNAP and other welfare programs, there will be plenty of workers

>>136897864
Oh darn, now farmers have an increased incentive to automate, decreasing labor costs and increasing efficiency.

Even grapes can now be automated in a profitable way.
Immigrants are a leftist/statist meme.

>>136897966

This.

>>136898316
Those boys clearly aren't healthy enough for labor jobs. Their pants are falling off because they are so starved already.

Maybe If someone else first harvests it and gives it to them free of charge, then, maybe, they can help farm...

oh wait, blacks farming is racist.

Leftism: Slavery is wrong.... but who will pick the cotton?

>>136897864
>farmers have spend years raking in the profits using illegal immigrant laborers who earn below minimum wage instead of investing in automation like literally every other industry has had to do
Fuck them.

Why does the left always lose its mind when the right wants to force them to pay their workers?

>>136897864
SO PAY MORE MONEYS FOR FARMWORK

THEY MUST HAVE DONE A CALCULATION THAT ITS BETTER TO DECLARE THE CROP A TOTAL LOSS THAN PAY MORE TO WORKERS TO HARVEST IT

IF NOT FARMERS ARE FUCKN STUPID

MAYBE THEY HAVE CROP INSURANCE THAT FACTORS INTO THEIR DECISION

>>136897864
>waaaa we can't exploit 3rd world labor anymore
Looks like you'll have to start paying people more than $4 an hour to pick your veggies. Plenty of unemployed nogs nearby with time on their hands that have a history of doing this line of work in the Americas.
New Deal: nogs want welfare then they can work out in the fields.

Maybe those cheapskate farmers will buy some fucking automated equipment now.

>>136897966
This

>>136897864

> liberals want forigen workers so they can be payed trash wages and work in horrible conditions

> The minimum wage should be $15/hr!!! Anything less is slavery!!

Liberals unironically support slavery.

>>136898757
Wow. It takes them 2 years to produce a census. MSM is just criminal for using this as evidence of Trump's policies.

>>136898316
Use prison labor. Nogs are built for it.

>>136898565
THIS, dumbass Millenial trash, the biggest generational letdown in American history, can finally stop licking Bernie's asshole and get a real job

Thank goodness I am 18 yrs old, Gen Z will clean up the mess Millenial trash made

>>136897966
This, fuck them for getting unlimited water during the drought too.

>>136899154
This

>>136897966
Tpbp

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>>136897864
that's what you get for having a bunch of illegal aliens employed during a presidential administration that doesn't fuck around.

>>136898316
CA does grow cotton. Those fine young lads are too proud to pick the cotton out of a bottle of Aspirin. You think they'll pick a field of it?

>>136897864

OH FUCK NOW MY AVOCADO TOAST IS GOING TO COST $50 A SLICE INSTEAD OF $35

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>>136897864
They should be utilising the land for pig iron production anyway, not wasting it for crops.

>>136897966
This. Cheap cocksuckers can buy equipment or sell the farm to someone that isn't a spic enabler.

>>136897864
Bet you they all now have dirty toilets

>>136897864
Pay. Your. Workers. More.

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>>136897864

That's what we need....more illegals in California....to "pick crops"

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>>136899324
>. Those fine young lads are too proud to pick the cotton out of a bottle of Aspirin.

>>136899121
hey thats not a bad idea.

>>136897966
As a business owner, how would you go about fixing this? Do you offer more money per hour to American workers to harvest? If so, how do you prevent yourself from going into the red due to labor?

I don't know a whole lot about the farming industry, but in the restaurant industry this is the kind of shit I have to deal with. Domestic employees aren't interested in showing up on time, staying til the job is done, doing the job right, and getting paid anywhere from $10-13/hr.

An argument I'm used to hearing is that the money rarely gets invested back into the economy, but these guys are cooks through and fucking through. They contribute to their rent, buy beer and groceries, and buy shit like phones and clothes.

I'm not some bleeding heart liberal, but these guys just seem like they get the "bust ass at your job, go home, and don't fuck with anybody" attitude that I always interpreted as uniquely American.

>>136899183
I find that this is an extremely effective argument to shut down leftists with. They don't have an effective response, as their usual smug 'immigrants are good for le economy' line is morally smashed. You don't even have to bring up anything remotely racist.

>>136899195
This isn't a bad idea actually. Nonviolent offenders can stay in guarded farm barracks instead of actual prison and harvest crops for some money for when they get out.

>>136897966
This

>>136897966
This

>>136899437
Why do you scalp my workers and pay them more?
Oh, because their labor is barely worth their wages.

>>136897966
Have fun facing the consequences when your food prices skyrocket.

T. Sweetie.

>farmers are told they can't outsource American labor to third world immigrants anymore
>start losing money
>"no one else is gonna import workers for me to pay illegal wages to who won't say anything about me as an employer circumventing labor laws and basic human rights, oy vey!!"
>cause food shortage instead of giving up shekels.
>blame it on " entitled American workers" who refuse to shit in farm fields and wipe their asses with their hands and touch potential people's food or live in substandard living conditions for slave wage.

Boy really makes me think. I wonder who put their hook nose to the stone and wrote this article

>>136899454
It's unfortunate, because it'll likely take a generation for the attitude to vanish.

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>>136898298

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>>136897966
THIS. SUFFER.

>>136899454
You don't fix it. When the government correctly prosecutes illegal immigration and the labor isnt available, all your competitors have to raise wages the same as you as you all adjust your models to the situation

>>136899454
The problem is that we need to have very harsh punishments for asshats that try to undercut the market by paying pennies to illegal shitskins.
They may be good for the (((economy))), whic is debatable, but they will ALWAYS harm the nation.

>>136899562
literally one year of increased prices. Then decreased prices because production remains the same, but production cost decreases.

>>136899454
Increase pay, therefore you will attract more quality applicants. Pay is the biggest motivator.

>>136899667
what, nigger?

>>136897864

"Southern crops rot as slavery abolition creates farmworker shortage."

>>136897864
> cant get cheap food without mexicant illegals
> we should import more mexicant illegals so agri-corps can make better profits
> mexicants are our friends
> corporations are our enemies
> low wages are a problem
> must be corporations causing this.

urbanization moved the rural workforce to the cities to work industrial jobs
nopw you leftieshave given away our industrial jobs to china in the name of regulation, environmentalism and "the service economy".
now the rootless cosmopolitan wonders why he has to pay more for organic small batch artisinal kale chips and fruit smoothies

economics is not a game faggot.
it works every time it is applied.
enjoy your urban famines.

economics works every time dumbass.

>>136899454

Get a green card, cunt.

>>136899454
>Domestic employees aren't interested in showing up on time, staying til the job is done, doing the job right, and getting paid anywhere from $10-13/hr.
thats pretty shit, trend should move to less employees who get paid more as time moves on.

>They contribute to their rent, buy beer and groceries, and buy shit like phones and clothes.
all of which is chinese which means its not the american economy.

>>136897864
You mean
>When you sow the seeds of greed... it only bears rotten fruits....

Plenty of other countries don't need a slave class to pick crops at below minimum wage rates. They invest in farming infrastructure and automated equipment, which pays for itself from savings in time and personnel. Your corrupt farmers wanted it both ways; a slave class that can be abused and removed with no legal repercussion while generating mostly pure profit. It's pure greed that illegal immigration is allowed to continue and they all got what was coming.

>>136899454
>how do you prevent yourself from going into the red due to labor?

if you depended on paying illegal immigrants fuck all to keep your business afloat you were already in the red

>>136899454
The only way to fix this is to fundamentally change our food production methods. Huge farms depending on manual labor to harvest have been on their way out for a while, prevalence of illegal sub minimum wage labor unnaturally extended their life cycle. Communal gardens and farms in the cities and private gardens and farms in the suburbs and country is the way to go for the future. We'll shift to a model where people can be mostly self sufficient by growing most of their own food, and will depend on farms only for things like wheat products, and animal products.

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Stop eating food.

>>136897864

Great, more jobs for actual citizens! If it's that much of a problem, there's no reason we can't force convicts to pay their debt to society in labor instead of paying illegal immigrants pennies on the hour to work as slaves.

>>136899454
The way ag is done in this country needs to be changed. Farms should be looked at as entire ecosystems, and animals should be intelligently integrated. If Gabe brown, his son and his wife can profitably manage 5,000 acres without government farm gibs, the Commifornians can do it too.

>>136897864
maybe a tomato shouldnt be 99 cents.

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>>136899562
>Have fun facing the consequences when your food prices skyrocket.
now I know why liberals are so upset, they're about to get their fat fuck food taken away from them.

>>136897864
"My father had a ranch. We used to hire 50 or 60 wetbacks to pick tomatoes. You know, it takes two people to pick the same tomatoes now. It's all done by machine."
- Don Young, Congressman for Alaska's at-large district.

>>136897864
Hire all those tranny women degree PhDs from California, should be enough to harvest it all

>>136897864

So how does Canada harvest?

>>If I can't have niggers picking my cotton, then I should have spic slaves doing it.

Farmers

>>136897959
top kek.

agreed.

>>136899562
I have a very large garden, fruit trees and a freezer full of elk and oryx. Have fun being dependent on others for your food, sweetie.

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>>136899192
Breitbart says this article is fake news.

>>136898550
> opinions from dipshits who know nothing about agriculture

youre retarded.
every crop these days is a cash crop.
the subsistence farmer vanished when federal taxation was implemented

>>136899454
>As a business owner, how would you go about fixing this?
automation.

>Do you offer more money per hour to American workers to harvest?
No.

>If so, how do you prevent yourself from going into the red due to labor?
Automation. It's been profitable for every single crop for at least a decade.

>Domestic employees aren't interested in showing up on time, staying til the job is done, doing the job right, and getting paid anywhere from $10-13/hr.
automation.

>An argument I'm used to hearing is that the money rarely gets invested back into the economy
Keynesian is debunked meme.

>>136899562
Fuck off, faggot. If prices skyrocket, wages will follow. We need inflation to get out of this deflation trap we're stuck in right now.

>>136899921
Mexicans

>>136899963
>fake news says fake news is fake news
hmm

>>136897966
This.

>>136897864
>uses Time as a source
> Fake News

>>136897966
This

>>136899731
The technology and systems for automation already exist, are available, and profitable.
It's one growing season of increased prices, and then decreased prices from then on.

>government oversubsidized corn crops rot now that there aren't any 3rd world shits to harvest them for 10c an hour
>the massive high fructose corn syrup drought begins now

Good.

>>136898817


"NEW this season from CASE-IH: Negrobot 2000. Now with steel wool hair. Picks 30 bushel an hour with minimum oversight. One man with a whip can command up to 30 Negrobot! Get yours today!"

>>136900016
You have all the information you need to prove if it is correct or not. Call the association and ask.

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>Illegal immigrants are no longer exploited in garbage sub-human working conditions for pennies
>The left's immediate reaction is "MUH AVOCADOS"

>>136899021
> more opinions from dipshits who know nothing of agriculture

why dont you try working a harvest?
ohh wait, you dont live anywhere near a farm and neetbucks pays better?
maybe urbanization and stigmatizing agriculture wasnt such a good idea.

enjoy your urban famines

>>136899963
Liberals truly are disgusting

>>136899332
Best post

>>136899856

Underrated.

>>136900122
>The technology and systems for automation already exist, are available, and profitable.

no

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>>136900221
>reddit spacing

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>>136899562

Yeah...we're real worried about the extra $.30 per head of lettuce

>>136900193
not an argument.

>>136899332
> commie thinks pig iron comes from farms

nice one. have a (you)

>>136897864


FAKE NEWS

Fake News: NBC News Phony Crop Rot Story Goes Viral

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/08/08/fake-news-nbc-news-phony-crop-rot-story-goes-viral/

>>136897864
LMAO hilarious. This will show whites how to be self sufficient again. God bless.

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>>136897864
OY GEVALT. HOW CAN I HARVEST MY CROPS IF I CANT HIRE WORKERS FOR SLAVE WAGES? I CANT BEAR THE THOUGHT OF PAYING MORE THAN $2 AN HOUR. ITS ANNUDA SHOAH

>>136897864
So, California will starve? Major win

>>136897864
I'm going to be doing farm work come the next season. Will be lots of fun, I bet. I've done it before and the pay was horrible, but hopefully they pay'll be better this time around.

>>136899562
That's fine, free market will sort itself out. Now we just have to do away with welfare like it is.

>>136900123
Yeah, motherfuckers, bask in my quad straight.

>>136899227
Farms need water though. It's just that the amount of farms far away from natural water puts a strain on the system during droughts. Fruit has a lot of water in it, and fruit trees require an obscene amount.

>boomets would rather let their crops rot than pay Americans a living wage
Wow

>>136899562
>we want $15 min wage!
>but let illegals work for cheap on farms, we need cheap food too

>>136900221
grapes, a labor intensive crop that is difficult to automate, have been automated in a cost effective way.
The same is more true for other less labor intensive crops.

The technology and systems already exist.

>>136897864
I'm in California, and I work for a farm. This is fake news. There is no difficulty finding migrant workers, or perm hire. And the fruit that rots in the field is 99.5% unharvestable because of damage or insects. And that's with having higher then budgeted yields. Which means the workers are picking even more than was expected, and we have no problem bringing it in to the warehouse.

>>136897864
If only all those unemployed Californians actually wanted to work instead of sucking Uncle Sam's teat.

>>136900350
CLEETUS MCCOY THE FARMJEW

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>>136900350
>$2 an hour
oy veyy

you're overpaying those stupid goyim

pay them 1.00 an hour like me, just make sure to put the wage in pesos so the number looks bigger

>>136899454
If you raise the wage then Americans will happily do it. Better picking tomatoes with other english speakers than serve burgers to spics.

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>>136897864
You're right, slavery it's the only way a nation can produce food.

OPEN BORDERS
LOW STANDARDS

Minimum wage is for faggots who don't know about economy.

>>136900447
>The technology and systems already exist.

No. You're just as pathetic as the liberals. Only instead of promoting slavery, you claim that there is some sort of magical solution that will make the food pick itself and you think that believing that somehow makes you smarter and morally superior.

Fuck you nigger.

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>>136897864
They deserve to starve

>>136897864
Wonder how the mid-west farmers are doing.

>>136900439
It's not good if they can't take credit for it.

>>136898316
Work. For. Welfare.

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>>136900122
This. The dumb slavers will go out of business and their land will be bought at a cutthroat price by legitimate businessmen. The smart slavers will buy the equipment that they snubbed for decades because slaves were cheaper.

Increasing the value of labor is why the industrial revolution happened. Doing it again will accelerate the robotic revolution.

>>136900652
>google 'automated grapes'
Yes... you are totally correct. Not at all a leaf poster.

>>136899998
This guy's not even joking.
Poos, white teenagers, french kids, transient canadians etc are those who'd pick fruit.
Now increasingly mexicans are being imported for their labour. I lived around an orchard community and I'd see them all the time.

>>136899821
>>136899811
>Less employees who get paid more as time goes on.
That doesn't work so well on kitchen lines where you NEED x amount of cooks on the schedule on any given night.
>>136899791
I'm an American, I'm just tired of most of the American workers I come across who act like they're doing me a favor by calling off for half of their shifts or not actually fucking WORKING when they show up.

I didn't really expect to get so many replies pertaining to us raising wages past $13/hr for FUCKING COOKING FOOD. I swear this board goes against raising the minimum wage most of the time, but in these kinds of threads you have a change of heart?

From my perspective, American entry-level workers are flat out lazy in my field. Illegals, and the wonderful J1 visa students, who HARDLY spend money domestically, outwork us by a couple fold and it's shitty. I just don't think I should have to pay more than $12-13/hr for solid linecooks. I would have killed for that starting out when I was a teenager.

I feel like an angry old man right now.

>>136900189
Think of the avocado toast prices, now they will never be able to buy a home.

>>136900189
>muh avocado toast
>I can't pay an obscene amount for my breakfast unless a brown man helped to make it

As someone with an avocado tree who also makes his own bread, the avocado toast meme truly tickles my giggle cords.

>>136897864
They built thier business on illegal labor. I am glad these farmers are getting fucked.

>>136899454
those are the mexicans we want bro.
there are too damn many of the other sort, thanks to the retarded open borders we have had for 50+ years

ag labour is quite different from restaurant/foodservice.

the work isnt always in the same place, often not even in the same state from week to week.

you have to be itinerant to work harvests and plantings

you travel from region to region following the planting and harvest seasons, then, believe it or not, most of these skilled ag workers GO HOME TO MEXICO to work their own farms

they are skilled workers, not lazy ignorant peasants.

unfortunately, getting a work visa from mexico requires massive bribes thanks to corruption in mexico and stupidity in the US.

americans literally cant do these jobs unless they, like me, do it in their early years when they have no familiy, mortgage or car payments, you move constantly from state to state and region to region, and this precludes having a "normal" life, but the pay is great if you have a strong back and willingness to sweat.

this is why we need a brusero program that works, and possibly a federal youth work program for city kids who want to make a few bucks before they have bills responsibilities and tax liabilities.

Farms should be state owned.

>>136899214

I got news for you buddy. You need to be born after 2000 to be Gen Z. You are millennial trash.

>>136900806
No, you need to show me a macroeconomic simulation that shows that automation is possible, sustainable, that it will require fewer workers in total, fewer resources to train and keep those workers alive and that it can sustain a large first world country like America. Instead you're asking me to google some faggot clickbait Youtube video.

>>136900850
The solution is to get rid of Welfare (at the very least in its current state). If they have nowhere to turn but a job, you bet your ass they'd show up 10 minutes early everyday and work their ass off. Otherwise, feel free to kick them out so they can go hungry.

>>136899454
Ideally we'd ban large ag-business and farming automation entirely and go back to subsistence agriculture. Probably have to wait till after ww3 for that though, but that's the ideal for societal health.

>>136900422
Soil management on american farms is shit. They'd use a lot less water if they tended the soil better.

>>136900850
>That doesn't work so well on kitchen lines where you NEED x amount of cooks on the schedule on any given night.
Have you considered not paying them for not being at work? Maybe let them know that if they are late X times, they're fired?

>I swear this board goes against raising the minimum wage most of the time, but in these kinds of threads you have a change of heart?
I see no evidence of non-leftists being unreasonable in this thread.

>From my perspective, American entry-level workers are flat out lazy in my field.
Yes, if you're talking about menial labor.

>llegals, and the wonderful J1 visa students, who HARDLY spend money domestically, outwork us by a couple fold and it's shitty.
Looking busy isn't being busy.

>I just don't think I should have to pay more than $12-13/hr for solid linecooks. I would have killed for that starting out when I was a teenager.
FIRE BAD EMPLOYEES

>>136897864
Trump was warned.

>>136897966
This

>>136897966
This

>>136897864
>Not being able to pay american workers enough to work for them
it's ok, that's how new businesses are created.

>>136901094
Cutting off welfare would only make sense if we had full employment with some sort of right to a job. In that case if you don't want to work then you can starve.

>>136900886
>>136900930
What's up, my hivemind snownigger friend?

>>136899454
Roll back regulations that doesn't make basic farming expensive as shit or illegal to do.

>>136897966
this

>>136900975
or instead of having massive industrial farms we could de-urbanize and let people live on their own farms and ranches without having to become millionaires first. that is an option too.

>>136900850
>That doesn't work so well on kitchen lines where you NEED x amount of cooks on the schedule on any given night.
chefs get paid well already.

hire good chefs

I live in a farmer community in Northern California they are paying people double wages now just to work in the field and still most whites leave in the first day...They tell them its too cold in the morning too work or the ground is too hard to dig in.

>>136897864
because white people are too lazy and would rather play video games than pick food.

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>no one wants to do the harvesting

Pay a better wage

>>136897966
Not just farmers but any business.

>>136899454
Every industry I've worked in
>Retail
>IT
>Engineering
>Construction

There are always two or three workers who work their ass off, carry the load for everyone else, etc. These workers aren't that uncommon, its that bosses are too scared or too buddy buddy to fire the shitty workers who don't do shit. Then these good workers quit because they get tired of the bullshit.

T. Someone who does all the work because everyone calls in at my job all the time

>>136898316
if niggers start working they lose their gibs

yes; the liberal welfare state actively discourages work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm-FqtAOSB8

>>136899006
This too

>>136901273
It's why I said in its current form. I know some things can be reasonable, but the fibs mentality permeates from welfare.

>>136899562
Oh no! What will I do if I can't get all of my (((organically grown))) kale for the low price of $30! :(

>>136901175
>entry-level workers
you get what you pay for

>>136901409
Do they pay more or less than UPS?
imho that's going to be the price point you need to beat for hard labor.

>>136897966
illegals don't pay taxes
farmers who employ illegals don't play SE tax
this increases the tax burden on everybody else
not to mention, how many of these farmers are subsidized?

employing illegals should result in fines or jail time

>>136901051
Fuck off that is horseshit, '96 is the cut off date for Millennials. Don't be a retard, "Millenial" means you were of decent age to experience and enjoy the turn of the century, I was shitting in diapers. Just google it genius, in the words of Cenk

The farmers chose to kill their crops instead of hire Americans...

>>136898510
damn leaf you are fucking retarded

>>136897966
I don't even have to look at any other post. This thread shouldn't even be alive anymore.

THIS POST BEST POST

>>136901409
>still most whites leave in the first day
have you tried providing free meth? that would probably help with recruiting and productivity.

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>>136899454

>same argument that was used to justify slavery

this is another way to create jobs

get off welfare and get to work faggots

>>136897864
maybe they should idk, raise wages?

>>136897864
Good. Those farmers are either either going to have to pay an Anerican wage or face total loss of crop.

Fuck agricultural employers
>Yeah, so its 6AM to 6PM Monday through Friday, $8 an hour and no overtime

>>136897864
Good Id love a job as a farmer...Too bad there are none in canada.

>>136901409
>double wages
2*$2/hr is still only $4/hr

>>136901784
if it was economically viable, they would do so. Unfortunately now we get automation and decreased cost of food. Such a bad deal.

>>136901725
>>same argument that was used to justify slavery
seriously. read up about the political issues when julius caesar came to power. same exact shit. rich land owners all had slaves so all the citizens were out of work and the land owners flipped their shit when caeser told them they had to hire citizens.

>>136899454
I think we have too many fucking restaurants than what is sustainable in a fair market without dirt cheap labor. Different types of restaurants can operate too. It'll sort itself out. People are too fucking fat anyway. Get the spics out, we'll figure out the rest later.

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>>136901089

We don't have to show you shit, you maple covered piece of shit

We'll see how you feel when you import 10 million of these greasy illegal fucktards

>>136901175
>Looking busy isn't beng busy.
Fuck that, dude. They come to me and ask shit like, "chef, what needs to be detailed today?" and then they knock that out of the park. It's like no job is too dirty. Sure, deckbrush the floor under the sandwich unit before dinner rush hits. I fucking love you.
>FIRE BAD EMPLOYEES
I'd love to, but I can't replace them with anyone. There's such a shortage of competent workers in my field. The US workers I get, the ones I was referring to in most of my posts, aren't really threatened by your first part either. They just don't give a shit and act like they're so above cooking, so I take chances hiring foreigners who don't treat the opportunity that way. Since shit is rotting without them harvesting, I thought there might be a parallel.
>>136901094
God, I wish.

>>136901878
so why are the farmers bitching and whining instead of buying robots?

>>136897864
We can finally stop being so fat and lose weight

>>136898076
It makes sense.

>>136899454
Pay more to your employees or get the fuck out mate, increase your pricing too, do what the fuck you need to do, if you rely on illegals you're fucking up big time somewhere, maybe it's the really really shit quality of your food of you're not bringing in more than you should be.

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trump wants to deport THIS

>>136897864
>illegals leave so there's a shortage of workers
>shows that tons were illegal

>companies will find out how many more workers they need
>temporary work visas increase to match the needed laborers

Every solution will inconvenience some people while it works its way through the system

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>>136897864
No! Muh slave labor!

>>136901878
Even if somehow automation were possible, which it's not, you still need to produce the electronics, which also relies on slave labor. You haven't solved the problem, you've just... nothing. You haven't done shit.

If you were in front of me I would rape you in front of your wife and force her to watch. Trust me.

>>136901905
>People are too fucking fat anyway
no shit. these people want to eat every meal in a restaurant. learn to cook you lazy fucks.

>>136897966
/thread

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>we can no longer pay Mexicans $10 a day under the table to pick our crops

Liberals are such hypocrites

>>136897966
>"B-but muh COTTON is dying in the fields! How could you free the slaves!"

>>136899657

>why is the middle class dissappearing"

>Lets all import more immigrants to work these jobs that #nobodywants

>What could go wrong

>>136901388
you lefties would have to stop taxing farmers as if they were millionaires, and stop seizing farms when gramps dies.

you would also have to end most of the subsidies that keep agribusinesses enthroned, eliminate the retarded environmental lolsuits and regulations that cripple farmers, and end your dependence on insulting ruural people at every turn for cheap political gains in the cities.

so no, democrats will never get on board with restoring america's family farm traditions.

>>136898037
Very eloquent. Have a you

>>136899454
tons of this money gets sent back to mexico, which hurts americans

they don't pay income taxes, but reap the benefits that every other taxpaying american gets

business owners don't have to pay the 7.5% SE tax. so honest, legal americans are stuck paying the bill

if you can't find workers, up your wages. if you can't afford it, then you don't deserve to be in business. these farmers are only hurting america.

>>136901950
farms operate in the short run, they don't operate in the long run because it puts them out of business.

>>136897864
Let's see some fucking ag stats instead of an op-ed from TIME

>>136897864
crops rot as farm companies are unwilling to pay 15$ min wage. kek

>>136897864
Much prophets

>>136902003
I have no idea how things are over there, but my restaurant is not unique in this hiring process and logic here. Shit, man, Bourdain wrote about this shit almost two decades ago.

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>>136897966
Kek has spoken

>>136901817
Where do you live? How hard have you looked? There are farms all over the place in Canada.

>>136899006
The nogs will start rioting instead. And having worked with nogs before it's better to just pay them to stay the fuck out of our workforce, the useless cunts.

>>136902179
lmao this

>>136897966

This

>>136897864
Why don't they hire more workers?
Oh that's right, the low amount that they were paying the workers would be illegal to pay an American.

>>136898541
>Pay them more than slave wages they will.

This. I spent 6 years working on a farm but quit because the wages are horse shit. Fucking $8.25 an hour for heavy labor when the gas station was hiring at $10/hour to sit in the air conditioning and sell gas and cigarettes. I know as fact that the boss could pay more, he just didn't want to because we "made a fair wage".

Now consider the fact that these spics make even less than we did you can make a good guess that these farmers are making insane amounts of money, and since they now have crops rotting in the field we can also guess that they haven't invested enough back into the farm or they invested it into something asinine like new equipment every year/new buildings where the old buildings were still fully functional and sound.

Fuck these guys they drive commodity prices down across the country which in turn drives down labor prices,and then butch when they have to play the same game we play every day.

I will gladly pay $0.01 more for something so that Californian's have to play on the same field as the rest of us.

>>136902043
>give corporations and businesses tax breaks and subsidies
>they employ foreign slave labor
>instead of giving jobs that pay living wage to fellow citizens
This is your nationalism on capitalism.

>>136902025
I always wondered why the bitch bringing the food and remembering shit can make 70k and blow it all on coke, while the guys who make the shit make slave wages. Then you have the Americans who went to culinary school making less than minimum wage but they're (((salaried))) so the 35k they make to be sous chef is legit, and nobody cares that you divide that by 65 hours.

Is this really how eating food has to be? Why are the margins so slim? Maybe we don't need all those doilies and other bullshit overhead. Why do ordinary slobs have to get treated like royalty just because they decided to eat somewhere? I'm sure you can cut overhead in places and just operate a bit differently.

someone edit that headline so it says slavery and cotton picker.

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>>136902252
if you hire illegals i will gladly call ICE and the IRS on your traitor ass

>>136902019
>you still need to produce the electronics, which also relies on slave labor.
imagine being this retarded

>>136902159
>source: my ass

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>>136897864
When you sow the seeds of
>SLAVE LABOR
You get
>WELFARE CULTURE
...enjoy all the cheap labor headed your way ,leaf...good news is
>YOUR KIDS WILL NEVER MAKE $10 per LAWN AGAIN

>>136897966
Yup, this. Unlike leftists, I don't support slave labor.

>>136901725
>implying slavery was bad
no chimpouts till the past 100 years faggot

>>136902019
>which it's not
citation

>you still need to produce the electronics
so?

>which also relies on slave labor
I don't care.

>You haven't solved the problem, you've just... nothing. You haven't done shit.
I've made food cheaper and got rid of lots of green card laborers and illegals. Every American wins.

>If you were in front of me I would rape you in front of your wife and force her to watch
Anon, I think you might be a homosexual.

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>>136897864
unfortunately, the fat fucks that caused all of this are unable to work or don´t want to work

>>136897966
witnessed

>>136902467
Source: basic econ

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>>136902644
>source: my ass
you dont need to say it twice.

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>>136902582
>claims that he has some sort of magical solution to make the food grow itself
>y-you can't prove that it's not feasable!

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>>136902405
>denying businessmen chances to get cheapest possible labor to grow their business
You left-wing leaning parasite. You expect me to sit here and listen to your drivel?

>>136897864
>crops can't be collected without slave labor
Yeah okay

>>136902595
Holy fucking shit, where can I get one of these?

>>136897966
Pretty much this
Penalize them for knowingly hiring and aiding and abetting illegals.

This goes for all businesses, all of them should be punished if caught hiring illegal immigrants. It's common sense. You're aiding and abetting a criminal.

>>136902797
>reddit flag
poo, ukuck, swede, cuckman, or leaf?

>>136902179
give me a fucking break, white fat fucks and niggers wouldn´t do it, even if the pay is 20 dollars an hour

>>136899454
The only reason they're willing to make shit wages and work like slaves under the table is because they can't get hired for better jobs due to illegal status. Having a permanent underclass of non-citizens is not a long-term solution. If we grant them citizenship you still have the same problems as if we deport them. Find a better business model, dickhead.

>>136902595
that looks pretty /comfy/ tbqh senpai

this cali boy doesn't give a fuck

send them all back hurry up donald send them back

Then, they should rise the salaries so that true americans want to work the fields..

Demand and supply. Bringing illegals was a mistake.

I hate southamericans so much (anything south of the border is southamerica for me)

Searched for this story. Found five copies of the same article, and this.
http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/08/08/fake-news-nbc-news-phony-crop-rot-story-goes-viral/

>>136899454
>how do you prevent yourself from going into the red due to labor?

How is that even possible with all the subsidies that farmers receive?

>>136897864
Thank God most crop comes from the plains and midwest then

>>136902993
>f we grant them citizenship you still have the same problems as if we deport them.
Except we solved the problem of leftist subversion. And the problems that arise without illegals literally solve themsevles.

>>136902950
>white fat fucks and niggers wouldn´t do it, even if the pay is 20 dollars an hour
if they get hungry enough they will. need to get this lazy ass mentality rooted out before it destroys us all.

>>136898076
uh no. we grow the crops regardless. it's just they like the cheap labor.

>>136897966
This, beaners are antiquated far equipment. Only good for crop fertilizer.

>>136898541
yep.

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>>136897864
Aside from this being a fake news article, there is something called supply and demand. If you cannot find someone to do the job for the wage specified, you will have to offer more money.

Illegal immigrants being paid 3 dollars an hour to pick oranges hurts legitimate citizens and is a net drain on the economy and society.

Fuck exploitative employers and businesses. This happens in Canada as well. Fast food chains cannot find good employees because the working conditions are shite and the pay is terrible, so they go to third world countries to find workers that will accept temporary worker visas. The workers are treated poorly, get paid under the minimum wage, and work long shifts with no overtime just so they can escape the third world shithole they came from.

Fuck liberals and jewish business owners.

>>136897864

Okay how about we try this:

Virginia cotton crops rot as slavery crackdown creates slave labor shortage.

>>136903134
end welfare now!!

>>136899103

This is pretty much how it Works but next year the insurance is most likely to Be a lot more expensive due to all Farmers doing this.

>>136902735

You stupid motherfucker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBmFH7fNxnA

Mechanical harvesting methods exist for basically every crop.

They may not be as cheap/efficient as paying some spic $10 a day, for more fragile crops they probably tend to cause more damage and result in lower yield than hand picking. But the machinery is constantly improving, and when you're now faced with the prospect of no longer having a huge pool of illegal labor and having to pay US citizens a fair $10/hour wage and payroll taxes on your employees, the dynamics completely change and automation may now be the better option.

The cost of produce may go up slightly. But most people would agree that's a fair price to pay for less illegals being a drain on public services and the system.

>>136903315
White people will never work on farms, even if you offer them 30 dollars an hour.

If farmers are forced to hire legal citizens, all that's going to happen is you'll be forced to import more Mexicans and then grant them citizenship and pay them minimum wage, and you'll end up with more spics and more expensive food.

That's it.

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>>136903393
>deleting posts
>working
WEW LAD

>>136897864
#Fight415

>>136897966
This.

>>136903315
>Illegal immigrants being paid 3 dollars an hour to pick oranges hurts legitimate citizens and is a net drain on the economy and society.

So when you're paying $20 an orange what are you gonna do then? Write to the government asking for subsidies?

Slave labor, aka illegal workers, have always been a economical necessity.

>>136898316
Yeah I dont want a bunch of herpe infested monkeys touching my food

>>136899103
Government pays them not to grow crops because otherwise farmers bankrupt themselves because logic. It would be nice if Trump streamlined the agriculture industry so it would be rationale and not function as an abnormal economy not governed by sensible economic principles like supply and demand and the cost of labor.

>>136902053
Don't pajeets get some kind of bullshit subsidy and that's why they own every gas station and Dunkin Donuts? Holy shit am I sick of illiterate pajeets being clerks, they're just so bad at it. They cant communicate for shit. They don't do the little things right, they don't remember anything about you, and they all make the exact same mistakes and make me repeat myself.

We don't need all these clerks and cab drivers. Where the fuck are all the teenagers and old white guys who didn't save for retirement? These are jobs that would be filled by our people, and the population decline would put labor generally at a higher premium. These brown scumbags come here and they work, sure, but they add nothing else of value. They muddy up the gene pool, they don't have anything in common with us, they have no higher aspirations, and they drive down our wages.

The liberals always strawman the fuck out of it either on racial grounds, or price grounds, or snicker that our education system sucks so we import all these brilliant STEM minds. Uh, how about we abolish the DoE and work furiously on revamping education at state levels? How the fucking shit is it okay that we "have to" import a bunch of Asians to do science? Sure, that's a nice thing to be able to do in an economic sense, but that doesn't solve this major major fucking problem. with education.

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Fuck off KIKE.

>>136903562
>reread post
>realize you were mistaken
>delet post
WEW LAD

>>136897966
yep

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>>136897864
Fuck California farmers for not hiring American workers. I hope all their shit rots.

>>136897864
Maybe those evil cunts should stop being so problematic and pay more than base minimum wage for labour

>>136903606
>buying $20 oranges
fuck no. then when no one buys them, they'll stop planting them nd the land can be used for something california can actually sustain, rather than propped up failures

>>136903606
>Hurr if we dont pay Mexicans 3$ an hour the oranges will be 20$
Not a logical argument.

>>136897864
Its called California drought. Californians bitch about these all the time, given how constant they are. Better afford a machine than pay spics.

>>136903525
Wow, it's incredible to think that this machine exists and yet people are still hiring Mexicans.

>>136903525
>The cost of produce may go up slightly.
also big capital expenditures which means (((loans))) which means most likely means your ass will be bankrupt and losing your farm even quicker than you are now. also, people are very flexible. picking seasons are short. machine sits unused most of the time, needs to be stored, can get broken or stolen, etc, etc. new developments in machines make yours obsolete and then your neighbor has competitive advantage and you go bankrupt again. lots of problems.

>>136897864

Farmers can go fuck themselves. Today's farmers are literally rich as fuck (anyone who lives in a rural area knows this... farmers are the richest people outside of the cities). So, these farmers can stop living like kings (which they were never intended to be) and can purchase machines to do the picking instead of illegals. We can build all the machines in the Rust Belt. Win-win.

>>136902179
No, it's never gonna be the liberals fault for making grunt work worth 15 dollars. It's our fault for being racist.

>prices are high because of the government
>government makes law raising wage to absurd levels so people can pay the prices that they raised

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>>136899454
You abolish the minimum wage and hire young workers for the value of their labor.

>>136897966
This. Farmers now have an absurd standard of living compared to any other point in history.

>>136899963
every time lefties accuse /ourguy/s of doing something it inevitably means it was them in the first place

every
goddamn
time

>>136897864
>enforcing laws and carrying out appropriate sentences is now somehow racist
>criminals get here illegally and the punishment includes getting sent back to their own country
>this is somehow racist or involves race in any way
>this is not just clear cut in that criminals are getting justice regardless of race ever entering the picture

>>136899454
i wouldnt lay this at the feet of the businesses. the problem is government over regulation, not only on the business you are discussing itself, but all the peripheral businesses that you deal with to keep yours going.

just flat out the government is too big. the amount of taxation and bureaucracy we've been conditioned to accept is criminal

> Farmers whole business model is paying people fucking pennies on the dollar for back breaking work

> Whine and bitch when they can't pay pennies on the dollar.

> Cry for me.

>>136903548
if all help is cut off, welfare, medicare, medicaid, disabilities, etc etc, even old white women would have to work picking tomatoes and their like

>>136897864
If not for propelling agricultural technology and other factors this would typically create more jobs for actual American citizens. Though the solution for these large companies will be to innovate further without workers due to their obvious control and unregulated actions. Or they're lobby and manipulate to never before seen heights, over throw trump and let rampant immigration to escalate so they get their slaves. They've done it in most western countries. immagration is pushed by corporations for slavery, simple as that.

>>136897864
>farmers admitting to relying on near slave labor of illegal immigrants for picking crops.
>somehow it's the right's fault

>>136897864

You could raise the fucking wages

>>136897966
this

>>136897864
These farmers were part of the problem.
However the real root of the problem has always been Minimum Wage

>>136904138
>>back breaking work
>using a pair of shears and lifting 10-25 lbs at a time
are you a leftist?

>>136899483
>>136899195
They already do this for menial labor in nearly all prisons in western countries.

>>136904221
Lots of industries report that they can't find the workers they need, and when asked if they've tried raising wages, 100% of the time it's a no. It's pure greed.

>>136897966
check out the big brain on brad!

>>136897966
t h i s

>>136900221
Wow! What an argument!
No.

>>136897966
yes.

>>136899454
Teenagers used to do all of these jobs. Teenagers were replaced by beaners. Time to replace beaners with teenagers

>>136898096
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>>136903603
these

>>136903548
>White people will never work on farms, even if you offer them 30 dollars an hour.

Delusional cityfaggot or greedy Jew farmer? I grew up in a rural area dominated by agriculture. It was a rite of passage for kids to get their first job shucking corn. Plenty of adults in these areas are looking for work and would be more than happy to work on a farm for good money.

>>136903548
>White people will never work on farms, even if you offer them 30 dollars an hour.

Bullshit. There are millions of whites in agriculture - even the dirtiest agriculture like weeding organics by hand - and they make a lot less than that.

>>136899195
It's a very sticky ethical issue. It's literally a fucking gulag you're talking about dude.

>>136899998
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>>136898558
Just like they are angry that without illegals they can't pay people under the table for less than minimum wage.

>we need slave labor

>>136903548
>White people will never work on farms, even if you offer them 30 dollars an hour.
We did for thousands of years. Why would it be different now?

>>136897864
Lol that's bs because they can get Visa's for that all day long.

>>136897966
This. TPBP.

>>136897966
this

>>136897966
/thread long fuckign time coming.

>>136897966
Yep

>>136897966
>the year of our lord, 2017
>this opinion is considered controversial

Wew fucking niggerlad

>>136904127
Exactly.

What is it that people just dont fucking understand.

Illegal entry into a country is not legal. Illegal, against the law, not okay.

HEY YOU STUPID FAGGOTS
I ALREADY POSTED THIS.
THE STORY IS BASED OFF 2015 NUMBERS.
YOU ARE ALL ARGUING OVER FAKE NEWS THAT YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO FACT CHECK.
http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2017/08/08/fake-news-nbc-news-phony-crop-rot-story-goes-viral/

>>136904324
They use them to pick up trash on the side of the road mostly.

>>136900850
12$ or 13$? nigger have you heard of inflation? fucking boomer cunt