US Space Command prepares Orbital Kinetic Bombardment superweapon

Not sure why everyone assumed nukes as we have seen those before

don't forget the space based laser weapons that can pick ICBMs out of the sky.

>>136882400

There are a lot more unknowns there in terms of whether such a system currently exists or what its capabilities are. Kinetic Bombardment works and is here today.

>>136878392
>dropping
Thats not how orbits work
>nazi flag
I'm not surprised

>>136878392
>no major technological unknowns preventing implementation, can be deployed by any organization that can put a satellite into orbit

So not true. The payload weight of even a single tungsten rod and launcher vehicle limits its carrier vehicle to something like a Delta V Heavy or Proton.

Falcon 9 doesn't even have payload capacity.

>>136883793

I'm aware that what you actually do is decay the orbit rather than "drop" from a stationary position". At some point, you have to simplify the terms you use or else you end up writing too verbosely and losing people.

>>136883793
I'm pretty sure DROPPING is what it's called when you release an object so that it falls toward a source of gravity, like Earth

>>136883793
>>136884737
desu this, if you don't use simple terms you lose your audience

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>>136878392

>>136884737
>>136884950
That would take years unassisted, there are two ways of solving this
>use fuel to kill delta-v on the rods
Massive amounts of fuel required
>keep launch platform in very low orbit and use lots of fuel to keep it there
Massive amounts of fuel required

Both cases are terrible, might as well just use an ICBM

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OP might be on to something here. this idea is actually a real thing that to my knowledge has even been tested on small scale. lets hope they fuck up north korea like never before seen

also the missile defense stuff is real and tested, the US even has the ability to shoot satelites of of orbit, which isn't discussed either.

i think OP has real potential to not be a faggot

>>136878392
Tungsten telephone poles don't have the energy comparable to a nuke, they're closer to a moab but they are really good for penetrating hardened structures.

Asteroids can create blasts comparable to nukes, but they're many times more massive than any tungsten rods, and they come in on interplanetary trajectories with much higher velocity than anything in Earth orbit.

>>136878392
>inb4 people too young to remember the star wars program get upset and make a bazilion threads about this

>>136884722
what are classified shuttle payloads

I'd rather have us assassinate Kim and install a friendly military dictatorship.

>>136884722
don't rule out black aircraft/spacecraft

I hear anti-matter weapons orbital platforms. Kinetic bombardment is feasible, but wildly inaccurate up reentry. Plus apparently it's hard to get something into orbit without everyone knowing about it (i.e tungsten telephone pole). Apparently it has something to do with anti-hydrogen and microwave beams. It has allegedly been tested a few times, once at Dugway even injured some civilians. I read a white paper from an AF presentation at Edwards or maybe Andrews that someone had posted on ATS avaition forum. Maybe one of you autistic fucks can find it

>>136886136
if kim dies, china and sk storm the borders to grab that rare earth metal land.

>>136884722
Delta V heavy launches classified payloads all the time though

>>136886225
Not if we suddenly appear with their military on tv announcing the new leadership and gibs coming to a shanty near Yu

>>136886337
thats probably stuff for the moon base that no one talks about. i mean uhhhh, how about them cubs

>>136885423
You trying to say we dont have that amount of fuel? Assuming theyre not using a type of fuel/energy source we dont even know about

>>136878392
If it existed it would be easy to detect and everyone would know who it's pointed at.

China can shoot satellites out of orbit and has had that capability for 10 years.

A Moab does more damage at a fraction of the cost. Rods from God is nothing but faggotry

>>136885423
You're actually just an idiot trying to sound smart aren't you? Periapsis causes the rod to gain velocity

>>136878392
1) it'd have to be built in orbit, like the ISS, and i don't imagine tungsten rods are easy to get to orbit
2) they have footage of trump's MOAB going off, you tool
3) Kinetic bombardment doesn't reach as high an energy as a nucear blast. from the article you cited, "In the case of the system mentioned in the 2003 Air Force report above, a 6.1 m × 0.3 m tungsten cylinder impacting at Mach 10 has a kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 11.5 tons of TNT"
11.5 tonnes is barely a percentage of a nuclear blast

unfortunately, it's too expensive with our current technology.

>>136885423
>>use fuel to kill delta-v on the rods
>Massive amounts of fuel required
No, Deorbit burns require relatively little fuel

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>>136886835
>periapsis causes the rod to gain velocity

>>136886225
Why shouldn't the spoils belong to the victor (us)? We'd be the one who actually did anything to earn it.

Are any of the rare earth metals needed for the semi conductor connected with mh370 disappearance?

>>136887165
because chinas army will rush down and occupy the land telling you to fuck off.

>>136887006
depends, really.
if you only use a little fuel, your tungsten telephone pole hits the ground at a very shallow angle or loses lots of energy slowing down in the atmosphere.
if you want to keep the orbital momentum /and/ hit your target at a relatively reliable angle (from above) you're gonna need a shitload of fuel

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I am fully confident that no country on this earth has such a weapon platform in space at this moment. Perhaps in the future, but certainly not now.

How are you getting enormous and heavy tungsten roods into space? A cubic foot of tungsten weighs about 1200 pounds. You might be able to carry one rod at a time on a launch vehicle and put it in orbit. That's hardly cost effective. Then, you are going to have to slow the orbit of that massive tungsten rod to "drop" it onto your target. The fuel requirements for one rod alone will be enormous.

tl;dr - tungsten rod kinetic bombardment are fantasy, not reality.

America and Russia would be complete retards if they wasted all that money on nuclear weapons that can never be used instead of investing in rods from god. It's the perfect weapon and better yet guide an asteroid towards the target and blame it on god. If Mecca got hit you could use it as propaganda and make them believe their god had forsaken them.

>>136884722
>but you forgot the imaginary classified shuttles.

>>136878392
Wars are when the secret toys come out to play.

>>136886423

underappreciated post
I love your sense of humor/way you word things

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>>136878392
Don't fry those poor gooks just yet, give em a few days so the qt asian girls can leave!!!

>>136886850
Science denier kys i played cod ghosts

>>136887242
China's army isn't yet prepared for a fight with the United States. They are desperately fixing themselves of course, but this isn't the same as the 1950's. It's a differnt chessboard. China can't risk itself regressing after coming so close to the top.

Anyone have that screencap about a post that talked about relativistic weapons like this? The quick rundown was that basically an object the size of a plane traveling at say, 30% the speed of light could pretty much eradicate life on a planet, and that technology is relatively easy to achieve so that's why it's not wise to contact ayy lmaos and vice versa.

>>136878392
physics stops this from working:
You have two choice: either a low altitude fast flying satelite or a geostationary one at 36000 km.
First one is nice and quick, except you have winds during reentry that will deviate the rod at about 20000km/h at 90° to the reentry angle. This destroys the rod.

second choice: Works but needs at least 90 minutes of aiming and flight time. Considered impractical

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>>136878392
The device is rumored to called the Kinetic Energy Kiloton Strike Device. It is mostly controlled remotely but it's actually manned by a single highly trained special operative who have to oversee certain fail-safes and inputs manually. He had to go through all sorts of special training to safeguard against going rogue, known as the Protocols for Emotional and Physical Endangerment.

t. My uncle worked for Nintendo they do a lot of R & D for secret military projects because of their expertise in human behavior from vidya game data.

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>>136878392
Sure thing Buck Rogers. I hope your kinetic energy weapon is bigger than your pic

>>136878392
Number one, rods from god has been used in the past, on Russia, in the middle of fucking nowhere in Siberia iirc.
Number two, "without nasty side effects" the kinetic impact of the heavy super hard rods from low orbit into the surface of the earth is not without its terrible unforseen destructive consequences/after-effects, this is why it's use is staved off as much as possible and the knowledge of its existence suppressed. In the case of north korea, the impact would cause too many problems for, and be too much noticed by the surrounding nations for it to be a viable use, unless the U.S. has decided that it does not care what anyone thinks of or how anyone reacts to the revelation of such a weapon. If this is the case this indicates two things:
1. That the U.S. is satisfied with where its breakaway civilization black budget military supremacy is at enough to be confident of their total domination of all enemies, to which china, and all other nations are not even on the radar as far as competing powers, the ayyylmaos in the sky and the mole aliens in the ground (dracos) dwarf the nations of the rest of the world, and even still worse than them, there's the angels and the demons and eldridtch abominations and "light-beings" that are made up of nothing more than information in the airwaves organized ino a construct (and how are you supposed kill that?) and this is only as much as I know of, if they were to go this far, the U.S. would have to be comfortable that they could defeat both the demiurge and the grand creator. This is huge if true.
2. The U.S. intends to use this military supremacy to assert total control and install its one world government by the cleansing force of war, for the God Emperor and the Imperium of Man.

While it is wishful thinking, I highly doubt the chiefs will allow the rods to be fired on such a high profile paradigm-changing target.

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>>136878392
Good good OP. Glad to see someone catch on

This is what "the rod and the ring will strike" means.. unveiling of tungsten rods and plasma ring weapons

>>136878392
Almost as practical as chucking moon rocks

I remember Alex Jones talking about this earlier in the year

I thought he was crazy

Turns out he is crazy. like. a. fox.

>>136883615
>Kinetic Bombardment
tungsten telephone poles from space !!

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>>136888186

>>136888536
>panic

>>136886823
Since when does our country care about how much we spend to kill people?

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>>136884979

>>136888459
The idea of kinetic bombardment originated in the cold war era.
Do you really think we haven't developed even better weapons since this? This is only the tip of the black-budget weaponry iceberg.

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>>136888957
>FUGG

>>136886423
Kek

>>136888186
Damn you had me convinced for a little while lmao

>>136889187
>>136888957
>>136888536

And so it shall be.

Trump IS a time traveler.

>>136878392
lol, you learned that from Bill Hicks.

There is no space weapons, because there is no way to go past the firmament.

>>136878392
You're a retard. This isn't new. They already created a prototype for Brilliant Pebbles back in the 80's. Go LARP elsewhere nigger

>>136889125
>Do you really think we haven't developed even better weapons since this?

Actually yes. Corruption and that oh so nasty S curve have put us pretty much at our limit.

Rods from God really need to drop on a different starry ethnostate though.

>>136886850
I like big booms.

>>136878392
THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE!

>>136889360
There is a passage through the firmament beyond McMurdo station.

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>>136878392
THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE
>THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE
THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE
>THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE
THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE
>THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE
THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE
>THE ROD AND THE RING WILL STRIKE

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>>136887242
>china's army. lol.

>>136889567
>>136889660
Stop fucking predicting all this shit, fuck you.

You guys realise that you can see this shit from Earth with a telescope right? You can't hide it from anyone.

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>>136889660
THIS. WHAT THE FUCK

>>136887828
SK will have their hands full trying to deprogram millions of Norks. They'll have to teach them all how Western society works. Plus, welfare or work. That's not an enviable task.
China won't give a fuck, on the other hand. LoL

>>136889660
You have to admit this looks fucking beautiful

Now imagine that in glorious HD

>>136888679
on a side note, mobile phones reception in NK will be improved, for the 25 of them who have one

>>136878392
>telephone-sized rods yield energy comparable to small nuke

A very, very, very small nuke. Less than one-thousandth the energy of Little Boy.

>>136890109
Thailand mor like Bantzland

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>>136889660

>>136890398
not enough pizzaretard threads to shitpost, so i keep up where i can

>>136878392
This is one of my favorite spooky weapons. They say it was used on that factory in China that exploded

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>>136890406
>.jpg
fug

>>136878392
Keep copying fucking Nazi designs United States defense contractors. One day you will have an original idea that isn't bottled up in a SAP.

fuck off back to /x/ faggot

>>136887684
This guy knows

>>136889042
kek

>>136888389
Giggle

>>136878392
>satellite "thingy" shooter-outerer
Wow. It's like raining trees. Who gives a fuck. How many do you need? Nukes are fake so how is dynamite going into space to freeze and then artificially propelled and doesnt ignite. HURR. Big fucken space rocks made of the same ice and metals and sheit. Fall and break up to fuck all. But muh homer sampson rod stays white hot from a frozen state and there are little thruster forces in a "vacuum" (ionised gas) that doesn't move this piece of shit tin-can from "orbit"

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>>136889660

>>136891005
>that's the coast of California in that pic

>>136887525
>hardly cost effective
We've spent most of the worlds military budget for 70 years or so now. That's doesn't even include black spending.

>>136889660
Fake

>>136888102
ayy, some faggotism of ayyy lmaos crashing an extra terrestrial space cock in to earth if we start letting niggers in to space. A good bread.

>>136891100
Even better

>>136878392
>Orbital Kinetic Bombardment

It seems like a hell of a weapon and it would not be very challenging to achieve. I why no country has build or tested this kind of weapons.

>>136891307
Fake

>>136891307
The US has been working on a weapon like this.

>>136888186
>kinetic energy kiloton strike device
so... keks-D?

>>136884979
Holy shit a Commie and a Nazi agreeing on Something!!

>>136891402
Nah

>>136885423

I hear what you're saying. BUT, is it not plausible that:

1) the high fuel consumption is simply a cost to be considered against the strategic & tactical advantages of the weapon

and

2) something like a shaped explosion charge can be used to kill or reduce delta-v very rapidly, given that a tungsten rod is far more robust against the detonation shockwave than a conventional spacecraft where decelerating this way would be vastly more problematic

And no, an ICBM sucks and is not an equivalent alternative because every nuclear superpower will immediately detect the launch and freak out because every second counts and they have no way to know where the missile will touch down. You could quite plausibly cause an accidental nuclear exchange and kill billions of people.

This was literally in a G.I. Joe movie.
LARPing to become a bannable offense when?

>>136886823
it's not about cost effectiveness, it's that this shit comes from space, it comes without warning, and there's not a goddamn thing you can do about it

>>136891307

It's not anymore difficult that launching a satellite and then dropping a part from it from orbit.

The idea is that you send up basically a satellite carrying a number of solid tungsten rods, about the size of a telephone pole, with a simple guidance system.

When the satellite is in the right place, it pops out one of the rods and the guidance systems bring it back down to Earth, directing it on the way down to a precise location.

>>136889330
No shit.

>>136884737
The phrase "drop it down the gravity well " is a lot easier to get the point across than explaining orbital mechanics.

>>136891626
This. Fuck my ass

>>136886690
I'm not saying you don't, I just question if you can afford it.

A delta V costs $17,400 per kilo to launch, and the tests the US airforce used in the OP wikipedia page weigh 9 tons each.

Thats 17,4 million dollar per payload in just launch costs, and then you need the launch platform as well as all the fuel, just launching it would probably costs more than 200-300 million dollar for a platform with maybe 8 payloads.

And then there is the production and R&D costs, which are notoriously high in america. They will probably demand a special super expensive rocket to launch the thing too. Looking at the F35 program, you could probably double your debt on this useless piece of shit.

In comparison, a single ICBM costs around 20 million dollars, and a nuclear bomb around 9 million dollars.

Hell just launch it from the ICBM

Can confirm similar system exists. Details coming.

>>136878392
>The US will disclose that hundreds of these rods are already in orbit, but the real number will soon be in the hundreds and then thousands

you said hundreds twice, you fuckwad.
you're full of fucking shit with this whole crap

>Time & attention are valuable so I'll keep this concise.
FUCK YOU

>>136891100
Its aimed at mexico city

You should have payed for the wall pablo

>>136887684
Delete this post. You sir are hired.

>>136889330
Arches arent rings. Rod and ring sounds like benisbagoo. As always. Like israeli flag

>>136887684
>better yet guide an asteroid towards the target and blame it on god.

There is nothing new under the sun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM3WvEeDpAc

>>136878392
When Trump said "like the world has never seen before" this was my first thought about the rods from god.

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>>136878392
Kek
this is some fucking call of duty ghosts shit

Why does our burger military think war is call of duty?

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>>136887684
>If Mecca got hit you could use it as propaganda and make them believe their god had forsaken them.

>>136878392
Threadly reminder that Desert Storm, where stealth was first revealed, was 26 years ago.

>>136886801
>China can shoot satellites out of orbit and has had that capability for 10 years.

If aircraft can be radar-invisible and stealthy, then why not satellites?

>>136891490
>something like a shaped explosion charge can be used to kill or reduce delta-v very rapidly
That would make the launch detectable.
>every nuclear superpower will immediately detect the launch and freak out
If you think you can keep orbital weapons hidden long enough to launch it, you are delusional.

Just keeping a missile in orbit would most likely jump start another cold war, that amount of treaties broken would turn the world against USA.

>>136891490
only question that matters: is Trump a time traveler? also, is fluoride really bad for you?

>>136878392
>telephone-sized rods yield energy comparable to small nuke
no fucking way
that doesn´t make any sense

>>136892104
Call of Duty just takes possible stuff talked about from our military and turns it into the video game equivalent of /pol/.

>>136892135
they fly in patterns and im taking the bait

>>136888049
>China's army isn't yet prepared for a fight with the United States.

Somehow I can see China mass-producing copies of predator drones at a fraction of US prices. They have labor camps.

Imagine thousands of drones buzzing across a countryside.

>>136886835
Thought u said priapism
>t.medic

>>136892227
funny enough, the future seems like its headin towards cod ghosts
>inb4 the future is literally Cod Ghosts

>>136892480
From where would they launch them?

>>136892151
sweden, youre wrong once again

the entire world (except nutjobs and muslims) would think a war against the US is winnable

>>136892250
>it's even circumjewed

>>136891723
bitch in america, when it comes to the military, spending limits aint a think bitch.

>>136878392
The rod and ring will strike

>>136892104
Also, it's hilariously inefficient.

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>>136888957
No need to panic

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>>136891465
K.E.K.S. device.

Also, the logistics of deploying this type of payload is one of the main undisclosed reasons for the space elevator. If you already have a space elevator it's a hell of a lot cheaper to just tow heavy shit up in the elevator than launch it. Getting gigantic chunks of tungsten into orbit with a rocket is expensive.

how do they get telephone poll sized tungsten rods into space?

>>136892738
this is what the vidya jew did to the US military

Sad

>>136878392
EXTERMINATUS SOON

>>136889832

Kek "propfecy" completes when it cools. Autumn or Winter.... September 22nd Autumn begins. Sept 23rd is what Christfags are going nuts over. Coincidence? Oddly, Saturday is when that Xfiles speech says NWO would make its move, and most of what it says is what the most common interpretations of the Kek propfecy items are... and Sept 23rd is a Saturday.

You'll have to act Christfags but the same constellations and star that was in the sky when Abraham made the covenant with God was in the sky when Jesus was born, and it's in the sky now and ties into the Trump presidency. Trump is known as the lion candidate and Leo is one of those two constellations.

The Kek stuff and Christfag stuff is spooky consistent with each other. They appear to be the same thing, but came out of completely different cultures and times.

>>136892582
Off the roofs of the concentration camps, silly

>>136892250
how can Jews even compete?

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>>136891957
Plasma ring weapons. You know, like the kind you wish you had in your ass. fruitcake.

>>136892626
There are some things that are just too terrible an idea to fund, a bomb of the same weight as a kinetic rod would cause just as much destruction but be better in every way.

>>136892940
Across the ocean?

>>136892832
You almost hope that X-35 and Zumwalt are actually being used to fund some serious shit, instead of being massive embezzlement schemes, and the US military isn't completely out of date, in terms of both majority of its gear and military doctrine.

>>136893022
some would say going 7 Trillion into debt is to terrible an idea to let happen, yet here we are

>>136887684
Then they'd have another rock to worship. Mecca would have twice the hadjis.

>>136893067
no I meant the ones we had in the US for the japs for ww2

>Just discovered that I (((really))) can't reveal too much about this

>However:
If you want to know if the U.S. has this system currently in orbit, look up Altrecht City, New Mexico. It's a bit buried, but I guarantee that answers are there...

>>136893177
make sure the rock is radioactive so their god kills them all slowly

>>136892931
Take your antichrist shit and go. How about your seed and seed of woman. You crush his heel He crushes your head? Cassini. Jupiter probe. Smash em into the birthing of Virgo and there you go. Church go byebye. Jews "deal" with the rest

>>136892225
yeah wikipedia says the energy is only 11.5 tons of TNT
while a nuke is 10 MILLION tons of TNT

>>136893127
And I would say that more carriers or railguns would be better in every single way than one of these

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>>136893106
This space rod weapon shit is basically nigger tier
pic related

>>136893003
Plasma is in everybody. Start believing in electric universe or eat more leg fungus i dont give a shite. You lie. This thread is fake and vaginally kiked

>>136893210
So why would china have concentration camps in USA?

>>136878392
>A killing bolt will strike but will not kill

>>136892104
>Why does our burger military think war is call of duty?
maybe because they hired guy from call of duty
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/09/22/call-of-duty-star-video-game-director-takes-unusual-think-tank-job/

>>136892480
>thousands of drones
they don't have the software or infrastructure capable of maintaining them

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>>136891005
>>136891005
HAIL!

>>136892480
>mass-producing copies of predator drones at a fraction of US prices
And we all know the "quality" of Chinese products

In the case of the system mentioned in the 2003 Air Force report above, a 6.1 m × 0.3 m tungsten cylinder impacting at Mach 10 has a kinetic energy equivalent to approximately 11.5 tons of TNT (or 7.2 tons of dynamite). The mass of such a cylinder is itself greater than 9 tons, so the practical applications of such a system are limited to those situations where its other characteristics provide a clear and decisive advantage—a conventional bomb/warhead of similar weight to the tungsten rod, delivered by conventional means, provides similar destructive capability and is far more practical and cost effective.


11.5 tons of TNT, i've had larger explosions in my underwear after a night at taco bell....................

Daily reminder that there is no technological bottleneck to creating a missile shield capable of defeating an ICBM. Norks are being coaxed into attacking (and failing), so that Trump may annihilate them and bolster his support amongst the political elite. Screenshot this post.

>>136893390
No, it's actually decently effective, except it's obscenely expensive to get fucking tungsten up into space, instead of just delivering 11 tons of explosives by aircraft.

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>>136892576
>tfw the future will be shooting Mexicans while wearing spooky masks

>>136893537
>commie
How about no.

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>>136878392
I hope they really do this, it will show the rest of the world that the US is nothing to fuck with.

>>136893683
>tiny bombs
>but higher up and believable as physically possible
Meh. And nah

>>136893515
Exactly, OP says it's like a nuke, but a nuke is actually like 10 MILLION tons of TNT.
So a million times more powerfull.

>>136893631
I kinda wanted it to be the Treyarch (Bo1,Bo2,Bo3) timeline though

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Psh, nothin personnel, kid

>>136893856
No

>>136893683
A FUCKING EGG

>>136893941
No what?
Care to elaborate?

>>136887425
You could use wings/drag surfaces to adjust the angle inside the atmosphere, which couls steepen the angle. You could also have solid fuel rockets for use inside the atmosphere because they burn violently and you dont need much fuel to accomplish much, you could use solid rocket fuel to accelerate the rod into the target

>>136878392
Ah yes,the kikes are gearing up for the final war
And they fund both sides
Truly we failed to stop this

>>136889582

Why don't we just... wait here for a little while... see what happens?

>>136893990
11 000 * 1000=11 000 000

>>136887525
we literally have three mini drone space shuttles owned by the air force that fly up and deploy / take down satellites willy nilly.

We can legitimately fly a drone up, and pick up your spy satellite and take it back to our US airbase. Of course we can deploy shit in space without you knowing.

>>136893541
It's worth considering that an object flying to Earth that fast is impossible to hit with current technology at least. If that shit is aimed at you, all you can do is fucking drop on your knees and pray for forgiveness. The only way to stop a weapon like that is to go up into space and take it out.

>>136893990
Remember the nuke tests from 1950s? Look at this popsicle stick house implode. Camera is fine though. We don't need to explain this. Interlacing. Now, that anon made good mathematic question and you just repeat muh nook stats. It's hunongous. Metal. And dynamite. And not possible. What flies this stupid thing. I thought the earth moved. If it just falls from sky it'll hit whatever it wants. Theres no nookes in it

>>136894073
Fuck, time to go to bed

>>136891100
Good, throw a couple down there, clean it up a bit

>>136893683

That orb is full of migrants.

>>136878392
Impact energy is more related to speed upon impact.

>>136893886
Just so your brain can get hacked and fucked up by an AI?

>>136894073
WHAT?

11 tons * 1,000,000 = 11 million tons

The thing OP is talking about is 11 tons of TNT.
A nuke is about 11 million tons of TNT.
Therefore a nuke is a million times more powerfull.

>>136878392
Also don't use decimate when you really mean annihilate.

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>>136878392
Through sources I won't reveal:

We (as in the USA) put up an Orbital Kinetic Bombardment satellite in the 90s. This was illegal, but we didn't tell anybody. Disappointingly, it was impossible to aim more accurately than a large city block(the re-entry trajectory of the rod was simply too volatile), it was expensive to get the stuff into space, and the energy delivered just wasn't sufficient to compensate.

Last I knew, the idea had been abandoned entirely until some future tech might re-ignite the project and defunded.

Since then I've seen, uh, other things, that make me believe we went far, far beyond our initial defunct attempt. However ironic it may sound, the USA doesn't want to be open about the new technological weapon because the design of the weapon is dramatically destabilizing of geopolitics.

>>136878392
some interesting things on DARPA's wikipedia page under active projects: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Energy_Liquid_Laser_Area_Defense_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XS-1_(spacecraft)

>>136894337
To get fucking exo suits and dab while you battle niggers in a simulated battle (bo3)
Oh and the fucking cherry camo

>>136894154
I've looked at your previous posts and established that you are crazy so I will not longer engage with you, sorry.

>>136878392

The fuck? We don't even have power armor yet!

>>136878392
can we not give Brianna Wu legitimacy?

>>136882400
newt was was talking about that on hannity the other day and somebody scrambled the audio on the nationwide broadcast

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>>136888536
Plasma ring weapons? Please Elaborate

>>136878392
Youre a retard, if uou knew anything about orbital mechanics youd know this shit cant actually work, and why. Nevermind the outer space treaty bsnning weapons like this anyways.

Goddamn retards everywhere.

>>136894395

tell me more

>>136894576
We won't get that until we can get some kind of nuclear energy and then compress it down into the size of a milk jug.

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>>136878392

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlrA-vPOGVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlrA-vPOGVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlrA-vPOGVQ

>"Fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before."

Already been seen before. The 2015 Tianjin explosions showed many characteristics of what effect this rod would have. We shot some of these at china for fckin with stock market in summer 2015.

>>136889704

I think you need to brush up on your history of the Korean war burger.

>>136892225
When something with enough mass is going fast enough, the resultant kinetic energy can far outweigh that of any conventional explosive.

Think of it like a throwing grenade vs an equally sized cannon ball being shot from a cannon. The explosive power of the grenade is what determines it's effectiveness and said explosive power is limited by how much you can fit inside before it gets impractical. Now in the case of the cannon ball, it's the same size as the grenade but with more mass. It's destructive energy comes from how fast you can get that ball to move. I don't have figures or anything, but everyone's seen movies of cannon balls mowing down lines of lads. The speeds those are going pale in comparison to those they would reach if dropped from orbit. Rail guns basically work off the same principle, just fire a rod quick enough and boom.

This is bullshit but I believe it.

>>136893515

Basically MOAB, but from space.

>>136893325
For comparison a MOAB is around 20 tons of tnt equivalent. So a fraction of the cost and about twice as destructive as these orbital rods. No fucking point

>>136894275
f=m×v

no idea what a 9m × 60mm tungsten rod weighs.

but the shit would be bananas

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>>136893911
Jesus, that webm

>>136882400
Already obsolete. The only countermeasure you need is paint that releases huge amounts of opaque smoke when exposed to coherent light.

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>>136894510

>>136894873
look at my previous posts
a nuke is a million times more powerful, so OP is full of shit

>>136890079
>>136890079
>>136890079
>SK will have their hands full trying to deprogram millions of Norks

#RAFFUGEEZ RELCOME

>>136888102
These wouldmt be relativistic Eben if they were real, which they arent.

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>>136894710
>2015 Tianjin explosion

>>136895221
it was the rods maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stZu1ZRk4q8

>>136894970
the wikipedia article says energy comparable to 11 tons of TNT, not that crazy

>>136894889
Much big, and not a bomb. Basically a giant metal dildo to fuck China and sissy boy Kim in the ass.

>>136895411
bigger*

>>136895341
ik just supplementing a pic

>>136894710
G.I. Joe is actually fairly prophetic
The battle is 50% knowing, 25% red lasers, 25% blue lasers.
To win we need to overcome the deception, and unite with those we used to see as enemies. Red and Blue must come together.

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>>136885423
Gee, sure sounds like the country that would have to refuel those would have to have a large defense budget. Oh, wait.

>>136886054
That's why this works, because the ban on the Star Wars program from that treaty covers specifically conventional weapons up to that point, etc. So, it clearly bans nukes, but not kinetic weapons. So, it's A-OK.

Man, Sweden, you shilling much? Unless the threads, boyz!

>>136885423
I was thinking exploding bolts like stage separation. Pretty simple tech and been around for decades.

>>136886054
I remember - I'm old enough.
>Ronald Reagan Star Wars Promo - 1982
https://youtu.be/uLDK0G4Wktc

>>136894710
I've heard that before. But if you watch the videos of the explosion, you will see a small fire burning before the explosion takes place. So, unless the "telephone sized rod" hit, and only caused a small fire, that was not this weapon. Unless you're saying that they knew there was already a small fire there, and then decided to hit the location with the rod. Both things I find highly unlikely.

>>136895341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0hNj9wBBzA
Christ, that explosion still rocks me when I see it.

>>136895735
That would affect the orbit of the launch vehicle.

Opposite and equal reactions etc.

>>136895341
If it wasn't for the leadup it would be believable as a rod strike.

>>136895393
it also depends on the ground they are hitting, is this sandy loam, or hard rock. one will shatter and shake, one might ripple like a bowl of pudding.

if nk has a soft soil in the surrounding area, the whole ground might upheave and wreck shit for miles. or trigger an earthquake, or cleave open a sinkhole.

>>136893264
>Altrecht City

lol

There ai'nt nothing Grant Co but a speedtrap exit off I 10, old memories, and incestual spics addicted to meth.

Could you imagine the Rail Gun the navy was testing being shot from low orbit?
That would be something.

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>yfw wu was right
“The moon is probably the most tactically valuable military ground for earth,” the tweet said. “Rocks dropped from there have power of 100s of nuclear bombs.”

>>136895767
They initially had security cam footage of someone they thought had planted a bomb. Could be they planted an incendiary device, then hit it with a kinetic bomb.

>>136895855
or set off the super volcano that resides in north korea.

>>136892480
What is C3?

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>>136895767

>>136895935
I don't know if those would work in space.

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>>136878392
>yfw we just grab all our obsolete satellites and space junk and throw it down at NK
We will destroy North Korea, and clean up all the space junk at the same time.

>>136895221

*cough* petaflops....... *cough*

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2971372/tianjin-explosion-shuts-down-chinese-supercomputer.html

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>>136895341
It was defiantly the rod. They found metal, like sodium or something similar, near the explosion site. Pour water on it and it would start a fire. The inventory on the site did not show these metals

>>136896012
It won't be accurate
>when you try to nuke north korea, the moon is facing Africa
>when you drop the shit but because of the curviture, it lands somewhere else

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>>136895935
This would be cool and powerful.

Kinetic bombardment is nothing even remotely new.

A fucking Cawwaduty had it in one of their games a few yeara back.

>>136895855
yeah true that probably does matter
but a fucking telephonepole falling from the sky is not powerfull enough to create an earthquake lol

>>136885789
Average asteroid impact is 17 km / s. Tunguska was likely a 50 m diameter rock and it flattened hundreds of km^2

>>136896312
Cod Ghosts was shit, the world would be better if ot folowwed Bo2 and Bo3 timeline
At least you got to kill some spics though

>>136896261
Sounds more like conventional sabotage or China just being shifty documenting things as usual.

>>136894620

> larping as knowledgeable but actually revealing your ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

> The Outer Space Treaty is designed to prohibit weapons of mass destruction in orbit or outer space; however, its text only prohibits nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. Since the most common form of kinetic ammunition is inert tungsten rods, in most cases, kinetic bombardment is not prohibited by the treaty.

>>136896167
They would. It's powered by shorting a massive circuit. It doesn't need air or fuel beyond the rails and capacitors, and you could trickle power the capacitors with solar panels.
You wouldn't get very many shots at it though.

>>136896475
Fuck you I liked Ghosts

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>>136878392
We can use this again. The Russians still fear us because of it.

>>136895137
>loose lips sink ships

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>>136896519
>write treaty to ban outer space weapons
>do not include kinetic weapons, the simplest weapon to construct

What ever jew wrote that treaty deserves all the shekels they were paid

>>136896530
Do they require gravity at all to function?

>>136886225
You know that rare earth elements aren't rare, right? The US has gobs of them. https://mrdata.usgs.gov/mineral-resources/ree.html

The hassle is the method of separation. Current separation methods involve hundreds of steps and lots of hazardous chemicals, which would be difficult to do in the western world due to environmental rules.

>>136895935

I like the way you think

>>136884737
>At some point, you have to simplify the terms you use or else you end up writing too verbosely and losing people.
Then try to elaborate on more exact technical details for the people who arent retarded.

>>136896880
No, gravity actually has a decaying affect.

>>136896638
true, but isnt most of a nukes energy lost in the heat while only a fraction of the shockwave touches the target? i thought they chose to air burst nukes due to how little of the blast effects the target if detonated on land.

wouldn't that mean that the tungsten rod, being lesser in energy, puts most if not all of it directly onto the target instead?

>>136878392
this would take decades to build

>>136878392
stupid. Look up the weight of one of those so called tungsten rods and then look up the cost per pound to send something to orbit.

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>>136897104
Who says we haven't been?

>>136897013
They don't work like that. The rods drop into the ground and transfer all of that kinetic energy into the ground, probably starting up earthquakes and other natural disasters. They do leave giant craters though.

>>136896295
thats a good starter size but what you really want is something about 10x as big

>>136884722
>implying they wouldn't send up 1x1x1 cylinders and just assemble the fucking things in orbit

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>>136893405
You sound irritated

We also have bigger nukes today than the ones used on Japan during WW2 so they have "never been seen". More likely Trump was just referring to modern nukes you neckbeards.

>>136896553
nigger the hit detection was shit and it was full of virgin campers
Alphas play Black ops 2 and Black ops 3

>>136894970
Feel free to check this, I'm happy to be shown wrong.

A 9m x 60mm tungsten(Tungsten is 19.25 g/cm^3) rod weighs 73477.93Kg. Dropped from a height of 160Km has a kinetic energy of 115213394239.99998J

>>136897013
maybe, but I'm still pretty sure it's in no way comparable to a nuke
like >>136894910 and >>136885789 said, it's about half a MOAB

>>136885423
It's not massive, just enough to decay it from a round orbit to a few degrees eccentric. Predicting the landing point is trivial.

Compared to the cost of a nuke, the fuel necessary would be a relatively low cost. This is especially true since the payload is extremely simple and durable, so high-G launches are acceptable.

This is an alternative to nukes, not bullets. Nuclear arsenals require huge amounts of manpower and maintenance.

>>136889660
a sun will gorge on clay.

Looks like someone has played too much Tom Clancy's Endwar

>>136878392
>>136881010
>>136883793
Orbital weapons are a bit complicated, here is a rad KSP video of how one system would work

https://youtu.be/FOgRSV-Dkqw

>>136897293
no they don't fucking start earthquakes dude, they don't have NEARLY enough energy
even underground nuclear tests don't cause earthquakes

>>136895175
What if they had a huge rail gun shooting it from high orbit?

>>136878392
>without setting off a single launch detection
>posted on public 4chan forum

>>136896990

at orbital altitudes, the strength of gravity is almost the same

>>136897575
A star will gorge on clay*

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>>136897453
I don't know what it's terminal velocity would be either, air resistance and all that jazz. The above was purely done on the fly to satisfy those parameters of rod

>>136891723
>$17400 per kilo
that's for man rated launches. It's more like $13000 per kilo for satellites, and these would be more cost effective since they're very dense. Volume matters quite a bit, and these are going for a low orbit so they wouldn't need bigger rockets necessarily. A Delta rocket could manage it relatively easily.

>>136887684
Nobody believes that things happen by accident anymore.

>>136897691

please stop, I can only get so hard

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How has this not been posted yet?

>>136897725
>at orbital altitudes, the strength of gravity is almost the same
Gravity has a decaying affect ( on the effective kinetic energy of the projectile )

>>136894599
It could be this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

>>136894599
>plasma ring weapons
railgun

>>136897013
additional reason ground impacts are avoided is they irradiate a lot of the surface shit, but in addition, throw what they just irradiated into the air. In other words, much worse fallout.

also, I think these things could make for a great "orbital sniping" weapon. Imagine if they didn't deal mass damage, but instead, incredibly precise damage. Next time best korea decides they want to do a missile test, the missile spontaneously detonates.

If nobody could figure out what the fuck happened due to not having built detection equipment for it, just keep fuckin' doing it till they figure it out. It'd be trolling using the finger of God.

>>136897920
what do you mean by that? I don't really understand

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>>136896848
Being controlled by jews does have its upsides.

>>136897826

who would be irrational enough to go to war over it though? you could never get the international support needed if you can't prove it wasn't a just a coincidence.

>>136897960
Almost forgot. tl;dr for faggots:
>As of 1993 the project appeared to be in the early experimental stages. The weapon was able to produce doughnut-shaped rings of plasma and balls of lightning that exploded with devastating thermal and mechanical effects when hitting their target and produced pulse of electromagnetic radiation that could scramble electronics.

>>136897920

it has a falloff as distance increases, yes, but at orbital altitudes the decline is quite small. At the orbit of the ISS, gravity is approx 90% as strong.

>>136898055
Good point here. Avoid collateral and civilian casualties, unusual weapon so hard to defend against it even prove it exists. But it's gotta be pretty hard to aim.

>>136897836
Seriously though, if we had a weapon like this it's not like we would rely on just gravity, would we?

>>136896261
Sodium would be such a shitty rod material.

>>136894651
nah

>>136887867
Muh favourite before they started jumping around like it was halo or something

>>136882400
Don't forget "brilliant pebbles"

Ion Cannon ready

>>136898055
it would have to be incredibly accurate and the second time it happened they would know something is up. You're also assuming we know
a) precisely where to strike them
and
b) precisely when to strike them (missile silos can be empty, decoys are a thing, etc)

>>136897575
>>136889660
>>136897731
>The Rod and The Ring will strike
referring to the ignition mechanism of a nuclear weapon (pretty much a rod and a ring striking each other)
>The star will gorge on clay
The core of a star is effectively a fission reaction (on a large scale), this line could be referring to a nuclear exchange. Clay in this case obviously refers to earth, which nukes would destroy a whole lot of.

Of course the thing with prophecies is that they are intentionally vague and thus can mean whatever the person reading them wants them to mean. 'A star will gorge on clay' could also refer to China or even NK making a huge land grab (NK in China's case, or SK in NK's case), the star referring to a prominent star symbol that features on both of those nations' flags.

>>136898261
Boner, don't stop. I totally agree with you this time.

>>136898078
When the Navy test a solid projectile from a rail gun, it does so on the ground.
Gravity slows and alters the flight path of the projectile.
In low orbit, when a satellite is directly above a target, this doesn't happen. It also drastically shortens the flight time and could increase the kinetic energy and possible size of projectile
They've already tested 23 pound projectiles at mach 7 producing 32 megajoules. For metrics, a ton of tnt is 4.184 gigajoules

>>136889660
>a killing bolt will strike but not kill anything
Every theory I see of this says that 'it' has already happened but what if it's about to happen
What if North Korea fires missed around the coast of Guam
Not actually killing anyone but damn near starting a war
Then it will lead to this line
>A star will gorge it self on clay
Guam has casts amounts of clay
So the attack on Guam will lead to NK'S demise
God wills it

>>136896638
You misunderstand. I was giving physical constraints that no rod could ever hope to meet. A 50 m rock is huge.

>>136898667
oh okay, I see what you're saying now

>>136898474

it's much more complicated if you're adding a rapidly accelerated projectile into the mix, let alone a projectile accelerated by a gun rather than a self-propelled rocket. Remember there is an equal and opposite reaction, blah blah - the gun would be sent careening away from earth with each shot. Yes, it would likely have a mass much greater than each projectile, but the muzzle energies involved are immense and now you're also talking about putting a massive device into orbit that is vastly bigger and more complex than a rod and some orbital vectoring thrusters

>>136893683
I keep seeing this fucking thing every time I have to drive to Pearl City, what is that?

>>136898374
You're not understanding me. I'm talking about shooting vertically down from above a target being better than shooting horizontally, and the forces that affect the projectile.

>>136878392
Wouldn't make a lot of sense considering how the US now needs a Russian taxi to get into space.

>>136898739
oh I see, my bad

>>136898903
there's a boy with his thinking cap on

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>>136898678
>mfw the norks try to nuke Guam, but can't even hit an island 2135 miles away

>>136898841
Ah I get ya.

Would some other propulsion work?

>>136898678
That's the thing with prophecies. One thing happens that fits then another thing fits the next thing, etc. But then after you're 5 steps in something else happens that fits the first thing. Hindsight is literally 20/20.
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is totally our President in 2020 though. He will stand on seven hills.

>>136898986
*goy

>>136898903
>>136898986

Not the military. The military has their own launch vehicles that they use to ferry stuff back and forth from orbit.

>>136899097
Here was my theory on the seven hills bit:

>There are seven continents in the world (Not including the potential New Zealand-including one). So perhaps there will be a global entity encompassing all seven (Like the (((Rothschilds))), perhaps? Does that mean they'll win against the Norks, Syrians and Cubans? They're the only countries without a Rothschilds-Approved™ central bank now, as far as I'm aware)

>>136898678
>>a killing bolt will strike but not kill anything
>Every theory I see of this says that 'it' has already happened but what if it's about to happen
>What if North Korea fires missed around the coast of Guam
>Not actually killing anyone but damn near starting a war
>Then it will lead to this line
>>A star will gorge it self on clay
>Guam has casts amounts of clay
>So the attack on Guam will lead to NK'S demise
>God wills it

You're retarded if you think the Norks are actually going to fire a missile at Guam. It's all trash talk. If anything, the Norks would fire at South Korea. My prediction: nothing happens. They'll wring some concessions on trade & oil from all parties involved like they have done. God wills nothing. The only will in the universe is our own.

>>136899097
I'm pretty sure that line has something to doe with either Stone Henge or a new pope
But at this point we can't be certain of anything

>>136899327
Except they have shitload of artillery looking right at Seoul, why would they nuke their closest neighbor, potentially contaminating their own land?

>>136899327
Are you doubting God?

>>136897539
The fuel cost isn't the problem, it's the rocket.

As stated earlier, a nuke is a million times more powerful, a rod of God is more like a bomb or missile.

>>136899569

If the Nork leadership sees total regime collapse, they'd have nothing to lose. Probability of a success would be near certain compared to firing it 3420kms to Guam. That missile to Guam would need to arc over the East Sea between South Korea and Japan, and then travel over the Japanese main islands. And then make it all the way to Guam.

The Nork regime would hardly care about contaminating land they are never going to occupy. A strike on South Korea would at least knock out USFK in either Yongsan (Seoul) or at Pyeongtaek / Osan. That would be an epic strike than no 'enemy' of the US has done since perhaps Pearl Harbor.

>>136884722
Do the rods even have to be big?
They will probably be traveling at around 17,000+ mph, right?

>>136899773
>Are you doubting God?

I'm doubting your interpretation of what you think God is saying (hint, it ain't saying anything. God just is.)

>>136878392
Yeah but wont Russia, China flip their shit and say we wont let you have that tech? Or they are allowed to do it as well.

>>136900209
The atmosphere will keep speed down so yes.

>>136895584
interesting

>>136900550
They would be facing immonent death at any given moment and the reaction time would be less than a minute.
They would have to capitulate.

>>136891100
>doesnt understand the physics behind dropping mile long metal beams onto targets from orbit