HAPPENING! ITT: /pol/ confirmed for naming it LightBringer.

Shit... What's it mean? Map is super dope BTW.

Pumb

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>>136864640
There are developments, anon.

>>136864785
im retarded as well could you explain JD?

Just tell us what you're getting at OP

>>136864298
Bump

zzzzzzzzzzz you feel sleepy

you feel tired

see that bed?

go to sleep

>>136866160
I can't read Rorsach, Faggot.

>>136870077
> I can't read
Do something about it.

>>136864298
explain this thread Esti.
You have my attention.

>>136864298
What does that mean? Is that an arctic hurricane tornado thingy

Mis kuradi kurat on see kuradi sitt?

>>136864298
>brings fake science to /pol
you have to go back to /sci
you're only on /pol because they laugh at your fake science
kys

>>136864298
>posting weather maps and calling it Doomsday
Explain yourself

>>136871490
> Doomsday
Nope, just HAPPENING.

>>136870408
It was raining on the north pole.
Picture is just for the scale, important part is the water math.

>>136871960
Are you implying all the ice is just going to turn to steam?

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>>136864298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N09ItYiSkj4&index=5&list=PLYI8318YYdkD_VW7u3EMBq-MeNIuHRnb4

>inb4 OMG FLAT EARTH IS STUPID
>inb4 FLATERTH IS A PSYOP

>>136866160
Well anon tou did this yesterday, post some site that shows a pretty sim, then give no further info when requested, tell is exactly what you are getting at

>>136872209
Nope. First barrier being the ice to water transition energy sink. When it fails the water starts heat up rapidly if energy input remains roughly the same.
Water to steam is even tougher hurdle but beyond it is Venus territory,

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>>136864298
>>136872499

Notice the small hotspot below the sun? Its because its not 93 million miles away, its only 3000 miles high!

Also see the lack of curve from the height shown.

>>136872641
Sim is based on real weather data, meaning it is not exactly a sim but representation.

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>>136864298
>>136872499
>>136872779

More footage

>>136872969
>>136872779
nigga put a ruler on your screen that shits curved

>>136872499
OMG the earth is tilted which is why the south and north caps progress and regress alternately, which is why the northern and southern hemispheres have alternat summers and winters, which means if you fell for that pic related you are special

>>136872828
Thats great now tell us exactly what you are getting at

>>136872661
You're a fucking gay faggot dude.

>>136872499

>Earth wobbles on it's axis as it cycles around the sun, giving us the seasons
>Equator get the most time closest to the sun, so it's the warmest area.


WOOOOOOOOW
So hard to grasp. Wew, not like it's Magic School Bus tier science.

>>136873277
not like those digits either

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>>136873024

Does that also explain the midnight sun?

https://youtu.be/LjvtmzbEgm8 [Embed]

>During Arctic summer, from the 22nd to the 25th of June, at a high enough latitude and altitude, you can watch a phenomenon known as “the Midnight Sun” where the Sun stays continuously visible in the sky for 3 days straight! The “Midnight Sun” rises on the 22nd and for the next 72 hours never disappears from sight, slowly ascending and descending every 12 hours, showing 3 brilliant “sunsets” and “sunrises” without ever actually setting below the horizon. If the Earth were actually a spinning globe revolving around the Sun, the only place such a phenomenon as the Midnight Sun could be observed would be at the poles. Any other vantage point from 89 degrees latitude downwards could never, regardless of any tilt or inclination, see the Sun for 24 hours straight. To see the Sun for an entire revolution on a spinning globe at a point other than the poles, you would have to be looking through miles and miles of land and sea for part of the revolution! Anyone below the 89th parallel could never witness the Sun for 72 hours, 3 whole revolutions, straight because to do so would be to assume you are somehow seeing “through the globe” and to the Sun on the other side! Since such an assumption is ridiculous, and yet the Midnight Sun can clearly be seen as low as the 65 parallel, this is another absolute proof that Earth is the flat, stationary center of the universe.

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>>136873018

Oh yeah? You sure it matches with the official (((narrative)))

>>136873386
Yes it literally does, because its tilted towards the sun during summer it never really sets and in winter never really rises, it is literally six months sun up six months sun down

>>136873386
>from the 22nd to the 25th of June
Timeframe is way longer, anon if your latitude is higher.

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>>136873277
>wobbles

Yeah, wobbles at 1000mph, faster than the speed of sound right?

>>136873101
+25 C and rain closing on Arctic sea.

>>136873669
listen fucker explain what you are getting at, so you think your being really smart or just trolling, look heres some loose info, im getting at something but im just gonna keep hinting is something impressive and never really give any clear answers

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>>136873666

Nice satan

The geocentric orbit doesn't make, pic related

>>136873861
So what does that mean, is that out of the ordinary and what will it result in

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>>136872499
You just bitch slapped them into the next month!
Get rid of globalism forever!

>>136872969
It's reflecting off the water relative to the camera. Stupid fucking nigger

>>136873761
>Yeah, wobbles at 1000mph, faster than the speed of sound right?

It's all relative though right? If you're implying that you should be hearing something because the earth is spinning so fast, you don't because the air is also moving just as fast.

If you're inside a Concorde Jet, your ears aren't being blown out even though you're moving faster than the speed of sound.

>>136873761
It's always funny how flat earthers don't understand day 1 physics

>>136872499
Flat earthers need fucking therapy, there is something really wrong with you

>>136874031
That pic related is not an accurate representation but I can see how it would fool a simpleton

>>136866160
>Weirdest tabs ever

>>136873861
Fuck off, we haven't had a 20c day for a while now. What suddenly makes you think its going to be tshirt weather at the north pole?

>>136864298
ITT:Retardation on a mass scale.
this thread is dumb eurotrash garbo.

>>136874031
That's because it doesn't turn 360 degrees, 24 hour day is made up because it's the average. The earth actually tilts more like 370 degrees every 24 hours which is why the photo is wrong

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>>136874466

Thanks for your explanation. Your counter argument is very convincing.

>>136874380
This, brainlets can't into relativity

>>136864298
fucking autist just tell us what this means in normal people words and sentences.

Would be interesting to do overlay with geomagnetic map

>>136874109
you only feel acceleration and deceleration, not movement at a steady spead this is called special relativity, let me explain this in way you understand plane accelerates you get pushed into your seat, plane reaches a crusing speed you feel nothing, plane lands on tarmac and breaks you feel pushed forward

>>136874806
its Hurf Durf flat earth garbage about how the world is fucked for dumbass reasons because estonia doesn't actually have schools and thus learn everything off of youtube no matter how god damn wrong it is.

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>>136874645

How would it not fully rotate if its spinning at 1000mph? You have a source?

>>136872779
This made me reply.
Finally, some new fake proof!

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>>136874039
Out of the ordinary part is described on the related pic.
It results in ice-free Arctic ocean and rapid climate change (as in crops failure and mayhem) on northern hemisphere.

>>136872499
>that Sun Rays' direction
Fucking flat retards

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>>136875038
How is it fake? Great argument

>>136874687
Ye well i am not going to explain to you in words why that pic does not accurately represent the way the earth faces the sun and i don't have a visual on hand that does but like I said I can understand why it fool somebody

>>136874950
thanks, never understood why people believe this cancer

>>136874687
what a retarded picture.

You're coming to the wrong board if you think people are gonna breakdown your stupid picture and explain to you middle school level topics instead of calling you a retarded faggot.

Which of course is what you are, a retarded faggot.

>>136874592
It appears to be going there from Canada. Fun times ahead, I say, howeverthe N pole losing ice is not THAT big.

>>136874592
Guess where the energy disappeared to make your days hotter?
It is melting ice up there.

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>>136864298
WTF OP

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>>136875071
We agree, thats not how the sun's rays ACTUALLY work

>>136874687
>global pic
First:
Do your research, that's an outdated gif.

>>136875255
people on average are absolutely fucking retarded, thats why.

>>136875055
OK ye I can see why the mainstream climate alarmests have been all over this then, your full of shit anon, all you are doing is creating a gateway thread for flat earthers, mods need to delete this shit, sage and report again

>>136875294
You do realize that the melting of the ice caps will result in a new iceage instead of heath death?

>>136875185
>how does light work?

>>136875294
N pole has had no ice in most of worlds history.

>>136875537
You are like a little baby.

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>>136875274
Even timezones work accordingly to a flat earth/local sun scale

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>>136875567
You tell me

>>136875553
Sure. But it also results in other shit. Massive desertificaion, crop failures and heat death for the unfortunate (niggers). State change flip. But we are not heading into this deirection. We are heading towards hothouse model flip.

>>136875683
Why would it not look the same on a globe?

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>>136875773
You didn't prove anything, also wrong theory, lookup slits and whatnot.

Anywho, enough about the CIA psyop trying to push the flat Earth agenda in making us all look stoopid, we have over 30°C right next to North pole.

>>136875773
>parallel light
Anon...

>>136876111
go on

>>136876242
no, off to bed

>>136874958
How retarded are you? This certainly has nothing to do with different technology, different recording tool, different year or different seasons. Nah you're right, it is all just propaganda...

Daily reminder that Flat Theory is a PsyOp.
The real deal here is the fact that the moon was put over there to fuck all over Dinosaurs.

>>136876111
The earth is building an electrical charge and it's going to discharge?

>>136875773
What's wrong with that picture is that the atmosphere doesn't act like a convex lens. Also the word is "lens" as said in the fourth image, not "lense" in the third image.

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>>136876448

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>>136876378
>>136876149
>>136875567

Nice argument. Good proof.

>>136875683
"even trees work accordingly to a flat earth/local sun scale"

Yeah but anything works in your fabricated universe if you ignore all the reasons the fabricated universe can't work.

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>>136876808
>fabricated universe

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>>136874958
That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read in my life.

>>136875665
Thanks for the feedback anon

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>>136876808
>>136876949

NASA/EESA make BILLIONS each year, yet they produce ZERO raw footage of earth?

>>136876612
Yeah because pictures with meme fonts, pseudo science, and logical fallacies are better arguments and definitely proof, keep up the good work anon

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>>136877257

How does the ISS not melt in the thermosphere?

how can nasa be real if earth is only 6000 years old

>>136874031
the number of the beast is actually 616 not 666

What a shitty thread this is.

I see a bunch of misinformed prolr and a bunch of arrogant idiots who give the arguments of "that's stupid" or "I'm not going to explain to you..." because they fucking couldn't if they tried.

If you think any of the flat earth or light stuff is stupid then obviously you comprehend how it doesn't work like that so fucking demonstrate your comprehension. That would educate these poor bastards and leave you with the joy of actually enriching another's life for once in your miserable basement existence.

That or don't bother responding.

Show the truth at 500mb

>>136876949
1. You can't possibly take a picture of the entire earth from any of our current satellites because none of them have a high enough FOV and distance away from Earth to possibly take such a picture, so the "photoshopped" pictures are composites of many small images with corrections for cloud positions changing over time.

2. NASA has never claimed to have taken a picture of the Sun up close, and most images from telescopes like Hubble are edited for marketing. Wanna know why? Cause raw data from Hubble looks like shit. It doesn't have colors, those are usually composites of different light spectra other than visible with false coloration. I've made quite a few myself from Hubble raws.

>>136877166
The live cameras on the ISS are raw footage, but you won't believe that.

>>136877166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKhxbPIG-0

>inb4 "NASA is a lie! I wan't raw footage from some other source!"

>>136877415
>How does the ISS not melt in the thermosphere
Sun's input is constant, eventually the object will reach a temperature at which it is radiating the same amount of heat as it is absorbing. This is known as the "radiative equilibrium temperature". Part of satellite design is in minimizing the absorbed radiation, and maximizing the radiated radiation. There's whole books on the topic.

https://books.google.com/books?id=_dpkAgAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

>>136864298

holy shit, its windy in the arctic

big if true

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>>136877415
Here's a basic image that surely you can follow.

>>136877949
nasa be faking

>>136877415
are you hard of thinking?

>>136875185
>does not account for 3 dimensions in example.

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>>136877823
>you won't believe that.

You just admitted they have to photoshop everything, why would I believe ISS?

see>>136877415

>>136877415
There is a fundamental difference between temperature and heat.

Temperature is a measure of how much energy individual particles have.

Heat is a measure of how much energy is contained by all the particles in a given volume.

The thermosphere is a very low density gas (very few particles) so even though the individual particles have a lot of energy (high temperature), they don't hold much heat energy overall.


An imperfect analogy - you couldn't stick your hand into water at 90ºC without sustaining serious injury. But you can sit in a sauna with an air temperature of 90ºC quite happily for quite a long period. The temperature is the same, but the amount of heat is very different.


Satellites will still be heated up by radiation, of course, but this is quite easily countered by constructing them of reflective materials.

>>136876612
listen guy you turn up with a load of pics loaded which require complex maths or experimentation to debunk if someone did go to the effort, you will just retern with some remark like "oh you believe mainstream science". Your last post
>Nice argument. Good proof.
yet all you have provided are a bunch memes created by a snake oil salesman, none of your own arguments or proofs.

>>136874031
holy shit you and that pic are retarded

Ok
But guys
Hey guys
But hey
Check
No guys listen
Guys
Check this out
Guys
WHY THE FUCK WOULD (((THEY)))/FUCKING NASA EVEN WANT TO LIE ABOUT SOMETHING SO ENTIRELY FUCKING INCONSEQUENTIAL
RIDDLE ME THAT YOU RETARDED NIGLETS
FUCK

>>136877415
Any object that is heated up will radiate that heat away, the hotter it gets the more heat it radiates per second. So as the Sun's input is constant, eventually the object will reach a temperature at which it is radiating the same amount of heat as it is absorbing. This is known as the "radiative equilibrium temperature". Part of satellite/ISS design is in minimizing the absorbed radiation, and maximizing the radiated radiation. There's whole books on the topic.
Don't talk about shit you know nothing about

if the earth is round, then how comes we are not all vomiting from motion sickness?

checkmate

>>136874031
its not the number of Satan, satan is "the dragon"

it is the number of the beast, the Anti-christ in the anti trinity

the dragon is the anti-god
the anti-christ is the anti-lamb
and the false prophet is the anti-holy ghost

>>136876612
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

Example: "You believe what you read in the Spotlight? The Publisher, Willis DeCarto, is a well-known right-wing racist. I guess we know your politics -- does your Bible have a swastika on it? That certainly explains why you support this wild-eyed, right-wing conspiracy theory."

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imply guilt by association and attack truth on the basis of the messenger. The Spotlight is a well known Populist media source, responsible for releasing facts and stories well before mainstream media will discuss the issues through their veil of silence. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 5 - sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule)?

>>136878630
what is special relativity, reverse checkmate

>>136878630
if earth is round, how come bananas aren't straight

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>>136878367
Im glad you asked.

>"... Strangely enough theres left in the world today: an area as big as the U.S. thats never been seen by a human being, and thats beyond the pole on the other side of the south pole from middle america - and I think its quite astonishing that there should be an area as big as that unexplored." Admiral Richard Byrd

https://youtu.be/czW0iRJuH1A?t=75

New land = New resources, new minerals, new food, new creatures, new plants -- NEW EVERYTHING!

IF this is true and we live on a flat plane, wouldn't it be incredible if it wasn't planets to be discovered.. but instead new islands??

>>136878742
7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

Example: "With the talk-show circuit and the book deal, it looks like you can make a pretty good living spreading lies."

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imply guilt as a means of attacking the messenger or his credentials, but cowardly fail to offer any concrete evidence that this is so. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 6 - question motives)?

>>136878246
Damn flat earthers BTFO to the thermosphere! Where it has high temperatures but not a lot of heat! Which is unfortunate because then they will return to slide more threads with their stopping-short reasoning shilling.

Sorry OP. was interested but flat earthers made it impossible.

>>136878865
9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial that they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

Example: "Nothing you say makes any sense. Your logic is idiotic. Your facts nonexistent. Better go back to the drawing board and try again."

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your evade the issues with your own form of nonsense while others, perhaps more intelligent than you pretend to be, have no trouble with the material. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 9 - play dumb)?

>>136878912
12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

Example: "I don't see how you can claim Vince Foster was murdered since you can't prove a motive. Before you could do that, you would have to completely solve the whole controversy over everything that went on in the White House and Arkansas, and even then, you would have to know a heck of a lot more about what went on within the NSA, the Travel Office, and on, and on, and on. It's hopeless. Give it up."

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your completely evade issues and attempt others from daring to attempt it by making it a much bigger mountain than necessary. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 12 - enigmas have no solution)?

>>136878912
13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

Example: "The news media operates in a fiercely competitive market where stories are gold. This means they dig, dig, dig for the story -- often doing a better job than law enforcement. If there was any evidence that BATF had prior knowledge of the Oklahoma City bombing, they would surely have uncovered it and reported it. They haven't reported it, so there can't have been any prior knowledge. Put up or shut up."

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your backwards logic does not work here. Has media reported CIA killed Kennedy when they knew it? No, despite their presence at a courtroom testimony "confession" by CIA operative Marita Lornez in a liable trial between E. Howard Hunt and Liberty Lobby, they only told us the trial verdict. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 13 - Alice in Wonderland logic)?

>>136873761
>he doesn't realize his own flat earth theory requires the sun and moon to travel this speed to match physical observations

get kekked

>>136879002
14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best items qualifying for rule 10.

Example: "Since you know so much, if James Earl Ray is innocent as you claim, who really killed Martin Luther King, how was it planned and executed, how did they frame Ray and fool the FBI, and why?"

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. It is not necessary to completely resolve any full matter in order to examine any relative attached issue. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 14 - demand complete solutions)?

>>136875385
thats not the way optics and physics work, honey bunz

>>136875773
>t talking ego

why would anyone ever expect mere facts to influence your conclusions?

>>136876949
they only color correct you imbecile

>>136875385
Atmosphere is a lens

>>136874031
This is time-cube level stupidity

>>136879117
17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can "argue" with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

Example: "There were no CIA drugs and was no drug money laundering through Mena, Arkansas, and certainly, there was no Bill Clinton knowledge of it because it simply didn't happen. This is merely an attempt by his opponents to put Clinton off balance and at a disadvantage in the election because Dole is such a weak candidate with nothing to offer that they are desperate to come up with something to swing the polls. Dole simply has no real platform."

Response. "You idiot! Dole has the clearest vision of what's wrong with Government since McGovern. Clinton is only interested in raping the economy, the environment, and every woman he can get his hands on..." One naturally feels compelled, regardless of party of choice, to jump in defensively on that one.

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. You evade discussion of the issues by attempting to sidetrack us with an emotional response -- a trap which we will not fall into willingly. If you truly believe such political rhetoric, please drop out of this discussion, as it is not germane unless you can provide concrete facts to support your contentions of relevance. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 17- change the subject)?

>>136872499
Is OP a flat earth or are you shill?

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>>136877415

It's called engineering.

India lost a moon orbiting satellite to overheating because they made a mistake in the design.

>>136864298
What's happening?

>>136879285
is this your OC?

>>136878814

>where math and physics seem to work for infographics, they are correct

>where they dont, math and physics must bend the knee before my info-graphics

>>136879285
19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the "play dumb" rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

>>136878814
>>136878123
>Hmm I don't understand that, best ignore
>>136878246
>Yeah that looks like real science I cant respond to that
>>136878367
>Im glad you asked.

>>136866160
There is a massive cyclone on the north pole. What does it mean?

>>136878814
Totally
Why are you hiding your flag
Also
Why not
Ya know
EXPLOIT THOSE RESOURCES

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>>136879412
Just ignore what decorated pilot, also first man to fly over north AND south pole admiral Richard Byrd.

>"... Strangely enough theres left in the world today: an area as big as the U.S. thats never been seen by a human being, and thats beyond the pole on the other side of the south pole from middle america - and I think its quite astonishing that there should be an area as big as that unexplored." Admiral Richard Byrd

https://youtu.be/czW0iRJuH1A?t=75 [Embed]

>>136879419
Keep up the work Dr

>>136879419
20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

Example: Jack Ruby warned the Warren Commission that the white Russian separatists, the Solidarists, were involved in the assassination. This was a handy "confession", since Jack and Earl were both on the same team in terms of the cover up, and since it is now known that Jack worked directly with CIA in the assassination.

Proper response: This one can be difficult to respond to unless you see it clearly, such as in the following example, where more is known today than earlier in time... You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your information is known to have designed to side track this issue. As revealed by CIA operative Marita Lorenz under oath offered in court in E. Howard Hunt vs. Liberty Lobby, CIA operatives met with Jack Ruby in Dallas the night before the assassination of JFK to distribute guns and money. Clearly, Ruby was a coconspirator whose "Solidarist confession" was meant to sidetrack any serious investigation of the murder. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 20 - false evidence)?
>>136879395
Rules for Red Tory to live by.
by Anon Monday, Jul. 25, 2005 at 7:31 AM

Built upon Thirteen Techniques for Truth Suppression by David Martin, the following may be useful to the initiate in the world of dealing with truth, lies, and suppression of truth when serious crimes are studied in public forums.

>>136879285
all of that can be summed up with:

"arguing with those who have abandoned reason is like administering medicine to the dead"

or:

"do not attempt to wield facts/evidence with those who have backwardly first decided on a conclusion that simply "is" correct, then "fit" all facts/evidence to suit it"

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>>136864298

What are you implying with these maps? You think there will be some sort of a mega storm?

Please explain your reasoning

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>>136879583
I just think UN flag is hilarious. The truth is right in front of you.

>>136864298
https://www.reddit.com/r/weather/comments/6sw1oy/the_hottest_spot_in_canada_right_now_4pm_est_is/?st=j6728vi9&sh=613922d5

FYI

>>136879629
appeal to authority
et al

and to sate my curiosity: how is the moon "upside down" when viewed from australia?

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>>136870077

>>136879629
like you just ignored these post that were beyond your ability to counter because you haven't got a someone else meme for it
>>136878246
>>136878123
please address these posts and I might believe you

>>136878240
so how do you explain her hair??
ffs just stfu

>>136879686
4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

Example: When trying to defeat reports by the Times of London that spy-sat images reveal an object racing towards and striking flight 800, a straw man is used. "If these exist, the public has not seen them."

Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. You imply deceit and deliberately establish an impossible and unwarranted test. It is perfectly natural that the public has not seen them, nor will they for some considerable time, if ever. To produce them would violate national security with respect to intelligence gathering capabilities and limitations, and you should know this. Why do you refuse to address the issues with such disinformation tactics (rule 4 - use a straw man)?
>>136879687
Kek

>>136879629
ok, so someone said that

no you just need to offer empirical evidence of that claim, evidence gathered and support by the scientific method, no hearsay or anecdotes or anything circumstantial can suffice

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>>136878123
>>136879426

I saw the EESA logo and got triggered

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>>136864298
>light bringer
>innocent
>sky
>black

>>136879953
good response

>>136879953
great proof

>>136879915
how?
what the hell do you think they will say:
"its either CGI or hairspray, or some combo"

>>136879932
Too be fair, Anons need to learn how to disinfo
>>136879932
21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the process to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict (usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim) is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed.

Example: According to one Oklahoma bombing Grand Juror who violated the law to speak the truth, jurors were, contrary to law, denied the power of subpoena of witness of their choosing, denied the power of asking witnesses questions of their choosing, and relegated to hearing only evidence prosecution wished them to hear, evidence which clearly seemed fraudulent and intended to paint conclusions other than facts actually suggested.

Proper response: There is usually no adequate response to this tactic except to complain loudly at any sign of its application, particularly with respect to any possible cover up.

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>>136875185
Light is a wave.

>>136879725
I'm so sorry about whatever happened to you
Good luck buddy

>>136864298
CAN I GET A QUICK RUN DOWN?

Water math? The fuck?

>>136880154
>clouds appear behind the sun sometimes
K

10

>>136880211
climate alarmest/flat earth gate way thread

>>136872969
Oh god this is so embarassing only a fucking amerifat could be this dumb, show your flag you fat fuck. Earth is not flat you mongoloid, why anybody would lie about it, for what purpose? You are fucking retarded

>>136874109
the only force you would feel would be applied opposite of gravity so you feel nothing

>>136879953

ah yes

>if any video or picture shows the horizon to be flat, then it is genuine proof and beyond reproach or doubt

>if any video or picture shows a curved horizon then it is just the edge of the disc of the earth or doctored or because of distortive lens effects

>there are no exceptions to there 2 rules

>>136864298
>estonia
Rare.

btw, what's this about?

>>136875185
>what is diffraction
>UN education

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>>136880154
But also a particle.

Scientists are puzzling over whether it has rained more than once at the North Pole. Researchers on an ice-breaker near the Pole were stunned when it started raining in September last year, around the time the Arctic summer ice shrank to the smallest on record.4 Jan 2008

https://www.google.co.uk/search?site=&source=hp&q=rain+in+the+north+pole&oq=rain+in+the+north+&gs_l=psy-ab.3.2.0j0i22i30k1l3.988.5027.0.7694.18.18.0.0.0.0.88.1163.18.18.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.18.1161...0i131k1.vbS_dVRhY1w

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>>136879915
>>136880044

I mean, in zero g, hair doesn't react like that. It flows like you're in underwater

>>136880136
How many niggers are in my store
I know, you stealin'.

>>136874687
polaris is right in the direction of the axis of spin of the whole solar system, no matter where in the orbits or how fast they are it will always appear to not move, because it's so far away we can't see any change between the two extreme points of the orbit

Oh! I think I get it now Op! It says you're a huge fucking faggot!

>>136880635
you think flat earthers give a shit about facts and evidence?
if it contradicts their conclusion, then it is somehow wrong, end of discussion for them

>>136880415
You must be new

>>136874031
lol woah this is by far the dumbest thing ive ever seen in these threads

>OP tries to share the fact that there's a monster cyclone and some disturbing temperature changes at the pole
>Entire thread gets baited by flat earth psyops posts that are entirely irrelevant to the topic
This entire board is fucking retarded

>>136874958
1975 Earth looks comfy as fuck
97, 02, 07 looks like over saturated wasteland

Seeing as this has become a flat-earther thread i have but 1 question for you flat-earthers:
Why does the north and south have different night skies? It logically follows that if the north is at the center and the south is at the edge, that if a northerner and a southerner looked at the same point in the sky they would see the same star. So why is that not the case?

THE EARTH IF FUCKING FLAT YOU FUCKING MONGOLIAN LYING BASTARDS IMMA KILL YOU

NOW FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR CONSPIRACY.org GENERAL

>>136874958
when you move closer to a sphere the amount of surface area you can see goes down, it still looks round but you can see less. Then someone shrinks them all to the same size and makes this picture

>>136875185
take some graph paper.
line it up so that you are looking down the page
notice how the lines diverge the closer they are to your eye, and seem to converge the farther away they are from your eye?
Same principle with sun rays like in your pic related.

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>>136880231

>>136880960
Can you go into detail about the cyclone and temp changes??

>>136864298
>be me
>see what looks like a weather map
>reading on, see its flat earthers.

Flat earthers /pol/? has it gotten to this level os absurdity?

I swear this entire board is some strange social experiment fucking with people's heads.

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>spherecucks

Earth is hollow you christcucks.

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>>136881081
>NASA and modern astronomy claim that star-trails in the Southern Hemisphere rotate clockwise, while those in the North rotate counter-clockwise and provide this as proof positive of their spinning ball-Earth. In reality, however, the Earth is an extended flat plane and all the stars and other celestial bodies rotate East to West around Polaris, the only non-moving star in the sky situated perfectly in line directly above the North Pole. The so-called "South Pole" and South Pole star "Sigma Octantis" are both myths - complete fabrications to bolster their ball model. The following video exposes the entire hoax and explains in detail how star-trails work on the flat Earth model, and how they do NOT on the ball.

https://youtu.be/ahNfU7zYlmY

>>136881410
don't be surprised that they have none.
It's incredible how dumb some people are, to think they would confuse seeing the sun with a misty cloud before it as the sun being before the cloud. At this point optical illusions are their proof.

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>>136875185
this combined with rayleighscattering and refraction causes light to appear to be in the double digits of degrees off from the sun

>>136879915
that hair looks like its held up with spray

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>>136881410
>>136880231
>>136881732

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbQlmD4ovA

>>136864298
what the fuck am I looking at here

>>136882114
not all clouds are opaque when you shine a light that powerful through them

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>>136882277

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfbQlmD4ovA

This video is shot with a solar filter to cancel glare. We shouldn't see clouds behind the sun AT ALL if the sun it 93 million miles away

>>136872969
I love when flat earthers post this shit and don't realize there is a slight curve. The Earth is just bigger than your puny little retard brain can understand.

>>136882114

>>136882277
Of couse. He can't be this dumb. He's gotta be trolling.

>>136882114
>he thinks the sun is just floating between a bunch of clouds
Amazing that no planes have run into it yet. Do aircraft have to plan their routes to avoid crossing paths with the sun? Could this be what happened to Amelia Earhart?

>>136874958
the photos look different because they were taken at different distances. In order to get a pic of the Earth like u see on a globe you have to be almost out as far as the moon. What people fail to realize is just how small they really are.

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>>136882597
>slight curve

Try reviewing the math.

8(miles squared)
or
8in.(distance in miles^2)

Which means to take the square root of the distance traveled in miles and then multiply that figure by eight inches.

So for example, if you traveled one mile, the formula would look something like this;

8(1×1) = 8 Inches of total curvature

And for the first ten miles traveled of curvature in inches…

8(1×1) = 8 Inches of total curvature
8(2×2) = 32 Inches of total curvature
8(3×3) = 72 Inches of total curvature
8(4×4) = 128 Inches of total curvature
8(5×5) = 200 Inches of total curvature
8(6×6) = 288 Inches of total curvature
8(7×7) = 392 Inches of total curvature
8(8×8) = 512 Inches of total curvature
8(9×9) = 648 Inches of total curvature
8(10×10) = 800 Inches of total curvature

>>136878630
Christians: 1
Heretics: 0

>>136882731
>>Amazing that no planes have run into it yet.
KEK

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>>136882739

Ok so like this picture from the moon?

>>136882888
Now we know what really happened to that Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared. Oops.

>>136882553
okay then why are there no clouds at the altitude of the sun in your other videos. it's because they can't exist at that pressure. So unless pressure is a government conspiracy those clouds aren't anywhere near the sun
>>136872779

>>136881674
>that image
Have you ever considered that some asteroids pass by the earth and enter the thermosphere without entering the atmosphere?
>take that aforementioned graph paper
>now draw a circle
>now draw a flat line above said circle.
>now select a point perpendicular to both the circle and the line (the side closest to the line and circle).
>draw lines from the point on the circle to the edge of every cm (or inch) long segment of the asteriod line.
observe.
Hope you understand you fool

>>136881455
It is a weather map

the thread got hijacked by retards

>>136872661
thanks, first post that actually explained something

Have you noticed ...
How the Flat Earth theory became a thing when the pizzagate began to leak ?
How flat-earthers are always using arguments anyone could refute with basic physics knowledge ?
How any thread they invade becomes about flat earth and not the original subject ?
They're all shills, sliders and their useful idiots. Nothing else.

>>136881630
proofs?

>>136881732
oh no no no, they have plenty of "proof"

>>136882553
neo-flat-POOFTERS are NEVER a small source of comedy

Guys I'm sleepy, aren't you all very sleepy, imagine a bed. It's so comfy. Get to bed

>>136882835
So in 10 miles the earth will have curved by 0.13% (800 inches / 5280*12*10 inches), and you're surprised that it's not cartoonishly obvious to the naked eye from that distance... you just proved their point for them.

>>136878630
couldnt have anything to do with the laws of inertia and momentum....

>>136881674
now my rant aside let me adress your statements/claims:
>NASA and modern astronomy claim that star-trails in the Southern Hemisphere rotate clockwise, while those in the North rotate counter-clockwise and provide this as proof positive of their spinning ball-Earth.
I can verify this. Asteroid don't go the same way the more northern or southern you are, they go in opposite directions.
>In reality, however, the Earth is an extended flat plane and all the stars and other celestial bodies rotate East to West around Polaris, the only non-moving star in the sky situated perfectly in line directly above the North Pole.
tl;dr - making a claim without substantiating it.
>The so-called "South Pole" and South Pole star "Sigma Octantis" are both myths - complete fabrications to bolster their ball model. The following video exposes the entire hoax and explains in detail how star-trails work on the flat Earth model, and how they do NOT on the ball.
I have lived on the norther hemisphere (canada),and the souther hemisphere (south africa), and i can attest to your claim being complete bullshit. The southern cross is clearly in the skies of south africa, yet no big dipper there. The inverse is true of the north.

The video you cited uses logic the likes of which i have only seen in downs children and the mentally ill.

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>>136883453

Pizzagate is real too

>>136879255
>level comedy

ftfy

>>136879851
oh wow
that image is hilarious

>>136881930
AHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAH

Someone explain this shit. Is it about global warming?

>>136883651
i just realized, this is their official designation from now on

"flat-poofters"

>>136882835
8in = 8 miles
Either anon is retarded, or he is trying to do calculations according to image. Either way this is really shitty proof.

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>>136883754
The curve drops off incredibly fast, I think you're underestimating the math

>>136874958
What stopping flat earthers from pooling together some funds to buy an air plane and just go North until they reach the "end" of the Earth?

>>136882835
>be me
>look at line
>look at blue gas
>notice blue gas is following a curve
hmmmmmm :^|

>>136874687
you've been proven retarded countless of times but alright here it goes.

The stars you're watching on the sky are from the milky way, guess whose moving with us thorugh space? THE WHOLE FUCKING MILKY WAY YOU FAG, THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T CHANGE.

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>>136884138

Tell that to Eratosthenes, this is based on his math

>>136884284
lmao they could buy a helium balloon and put a camera on it. any flat earther with a brain is just there for shits and giggles

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>>136884307

>>136884138
You're a retard.

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Why is there no images like this of earth?

Always flat 2d images

>>136882597

This. You can very clearly see the Earth's curvature in that video.

>>136882835
The atmosphere CLEARLY follows a curve, despite your half assed attempt to conceal it with a gigantic red line.

>>136878240
his pinkie caught the pocket you fuckin idiot

>>136884546
>direct sensory confirmation

this is how man "reasoned" in the age of superstition

i.e. everything before the scientific revolution back to the ends of prehistory

how much fact did we glean from that school of thought?

>>136873761
>Yeah, wobbles at 1000mph, faster than the speed of sound right?
And this is somehow a contradiction?

>>136884605
>Always flat 2d images

how is that image not 2d?

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>136884546
if you do the math at 30k ft most human eyes won't really be able to detect the curvature

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>>136884719

>>136882888
The sun is 4000 miles away. Planes go 12 miles up. Fuck your opacity BS. MUH MUHFUGGEN PEAR WE WUZ PEARS N SHEIT. WHOAH! LIVIN ON A PEAR GROW A PEAR WE'RE HALF WAY THERE WHOAH!

>>136873761
how?

~24 kilo mile circumference
24 hour day
divided by 24
= 1000 mph

MAGIC

>>136874109
You don't feel anything because the Earth is not accelerating. You would know this if you paid attention in physics class you fucking moron

>>136879953
Oh wow stars in the earth?

They are just reflections on the lens/windows of the ISS anon.

>>136874719

And it's not even Einstein's relativity, this is just purely Newtonian.
We've known this for hundreds of years.

>>136884867
either you replied to wrong post

or you are baiting

or you are retarded

or your ego is firmly in the driver's seat and you are incapable of knowing it

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>>136884751
Say a few words

The earth spins faster than that

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>>136878246
Satellites ? Bahhaaahaaaahaaa

>>136872661
For all of us drop out Aussies, whats the significance? Will Dennis Quaid have to get to New York to save his son or something?

>>136884417
>inches
>Kilometres
I stand by my original point. You are retarded.

>>136884912
and yet all empirical evidence shows it to be ~8.5 light-minutes away

incredible

>>136882114
Clouds are just condensed liquid in gas form anon, sometimes they let light shine through and if the fucking sun is in their path more so even.

>>136884948

much of physics is a hoax, according to them

like gravity and relativity

>>136884546
I'm not denying my senses.
I'm noticing a principle of vision.

That image also has a curvature. Draw a line from the edge of 1 part of the curve to the other, and you will notice that the curvature will not follow the line, but will follow a parabola over the line.

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>>136878428
What he said! Bump

>>136885061

>seeing something represented by a pixel when at your distance of photograph it is 1/1000th of a pixel or less

>>136885061
> how big are satellites
Can you see any cities on that image

>>136885120
You bounced light particles off of little receptor mirror thingies and your relativity never lined up with your expectations so you said it can live together with newtonian mumbo jumbo. Electric universe or nothing. Muh gravitational lensing muh skyscrapers that never lean and nobody plans for it. Muh dating of rocks nobody there to start the half life clock. Muh vertical trees in the geologic record. Muh 5000 mile long and "curving" train tracks. Muh quarks and CERN and blah blah

>>136885278

>science

>to avoid answering questions

>science

are you ok?

>>136884605
>Why is there no images like this of earth?
>Is there
>not "are there"
you have outed yourself for what you are: stupid. Go back to 5th grade anon.

FBI psy ops

>ddddon't belive in jewish science
>believe in these theories with blatant errors

Nice try, but average iq here is way too big to get fooled by such pathetic manipulations.

>>136885412
Pear

>>136885378

>sophistry

>vs scientific method

im sure you have scientific results of empirical evidence to back your claims?

good luck

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>>136885167
>like gravity and relativity
There a reason they are unproven theories

>>136884867

There's clearly some lensing/optical distortion going on.
The Earth appears convex in all directions, even though the plane is turning.
That's an impossible shape, unless we were on the inside of a closed sphere which we clearly are not.

>>136885452
banana
also apple and strawberry
and cinnamon and cream

>>136878240
Her pinkie caught the pocket you uneducated retard.

>>136885536
How do you manufacture a piece of metal string 5000 miles long and make it curve at the rate of your NEVER DEMONSTRATED ratios? Hrm? Oops my train locomotive itself, just stalled. Aaand it just fucking sits there. It's longer than the base unit of your magical mother fucking pear ratio

>>136874687
>top left
stars
>bottom left
stars
>top right
planets?
>bottom right
stars

wooow
made me think

>>136885633
Black bow tie may may money launderer almost like Sotheby's never said that

>>136878240
What about her necklace.
Its behaving like it would in a fluid. If this were wires the necklace would not behave like that and would stay on her.

>>136885596
relativity has been proven by the only experiments we are capable of performing that can prove it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_special_relativity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity

it holds to be perfect

>>136884867
>When flatearthers use fisheyes to "prove" there is no curve
You can see it distort at the sides

>>136885764
Nope. There is no perfection that comes forth from man

>>136885784
That was their primogenitor argument against you. Meaning their first and maybe best. Do better.

>>136885596

>gravity field is planar, flat edges from point- sources

>not spherical

oh wow

>>136866160
You had one job anon

>>136885596

This only works if the gravitational vector always points in the same direction, which it does not.
It always points to the center of the Earth, which is a sphere, so the vector changes direction just like a compass' point moves around relative to the edge of the paper you're drawing a circle in.

Seriously, this is 7th grade science.

>>136885664
>How do you manufacture a piece of metal string 5000 miles long

lets put it this way:
YOU are incapable of ever figuring that out

but others are, and can, and have

>>136885741
take your meds

Thanks for all the pics flat earth anon, they will go to good use in future bait threads

>>136885895
Muh gravity field? Bowling balls and feathers fall at same speed. Nobody cares about polaris. But this invisible quarky sound wave bullshit is giving this bendable water its concrete like surface tension. Why is water so electrically conductive? Oh well

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>>136878749
More like special Ed! Made up words by nassholes just like Light Years!, to make sure the public wont grasp and make us feel that we dont matter in their made up universe when we are actually not moving and We Are The Center of The Universe!!! Read this again kids while the bros in chicango kill another 50 overnight while Rham is getting butt rammed!

>>136885983
No. Those are not arguments. You pasted little cardboard cutouts on your shuttle windows to fake having passed van allen. Nukes are fake. 9/11 was probably cold fusion. Nobody has done that. You can't. It's five thousand miles nigger. In 1880 which Solomon Wizard was calculating those handiworks? Get bent. Literally

>>136885806

>math is not perfect

good luck with that

>>136886141
ad lapidem

It's fairly clear the flat earthers who post here are just trolls or psyop shills. The real flat earthers revise their arguments as they get debunked. These jokers are posting the same memes that have been debunked a dozen times.

>>136886016
if you can type and are not blocked from google/et al, you can find explanations to all of that that even you should comprehend if you are willing to rub 2 brain cells together

and this:
>bendabl water

yes, fluids are..... fluidic

>>136886238
Ad lapidem? You cant explain it. I even studied any y axis curves for rails. You cant do it. One section of rail is like one bobbojillionth of five thousand miles. Each piece needing like atom's lengths or else disaster. Plus my comments on their stalling. Then you say muh maffs are God

>>136884546
As one of the few people that paid for an edge of space flight in an old Russian MIG-29 I have seen the curvature of the eart, with my own eyes. How will you explain that away?

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>this thread
Well, at least you guys can park on the handicap spots.

>>136886110
there are specific pages on wikipedia for each of those concepts that lay them out quite nicely and with links to all supporting evidence and science behind them

>>136885878
When a party resorts to the same "tricks" they claim the opposition used they lose by default.

>>136886238
Well it isn't exactly perfect...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems

>>136886483
You?

>>136886016
>>136886110
>>136886141

this should dumb it down enough for even you folks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej5GnHJcGCM

>>136886387
google will supply you with endless examples of indepth explanations

>>136875055
ice free high altitude sailing in the arctic? Make so much money chartering peeps to the north pole and all those shipping lanes opening. we can have direct trade with the ruskies

>>136886529
>Rainbow flag
>Illiterate
really nudges my neurons

>>136886592
Zzzz. Hey buddy here in the train factory. Make sure piece number 123428219282 is one and two hundred trillionths of an inch altered. Upon our curve ratio

>>136886507
yes, there is the possibility for solutions and proofs to be incomplete

but not imperfect
there is a difference
and i am well versed in godel, et al

>>136886648
You repeated to me what I said. Rainbows are in Bible. Trump can read?

>>136886529
Fags are mentally il

You literally are not capable of forming a cohesive argument. You should receive read your ridiculous post about pears, realize that noone in their right mind would take you seriously, then take your meds and kill yourself

>>136864785
Kys

>>136886700
so these concepts and methods are beyond you

therefore they are flawed/wrong?

interdasting

>>136886785
Fuck off bud. Duping is easy. Easy stuff is always wrong. I convince of said duping by others. That's it. You can choose to believe Biblical interpretation or one of many may mays you invented. You cant have a prison planet with a flat motionless earth

>>136886894
150 years ago. Even now. Look it up. I want formulæ. Mental illnesses are spiritual problems and kikery. Same kikes did a number on gays and are too womany. Everybody's at least bi. Fertility cults are bad mmkay

>>136886700
>madmen rambling nonsense about trains

Because steel railroad tracks are completely rigid and if they're not at the right angle the train will break them. Go outside and watch a fucking train

>>136887027

>Look it up. I want formulæ.

i have

again: google and wikipedia, just for the tip of the iceberg

youre welcome

>>136864298
An Estonian mongo who doesn't explain anything, then a flat earth shill shows up.
What an awful thread.

>>136887070
No. I already made an observation nobody has answered. Stalls. Sits there. What does rigidity have to do with it? Now you're encumbering your own narrative I thought it was effortless. Trains. Like row boats on miles long rivers. Will never disappear. Trains can go up mountains. But no curves. And water doesnt go uphill

>>136887137
Nah. Oblate spheroids is hair splitting in the style of herod

>>136874406
Have any of the Flat Earth people explained what they think the purpose is of this supposed cover up? Do they think that none of the planets really exits? Holograms? How deep does this rabbit hole go, anyway?

>>136886920
>implying I believe the Bible
Yeah, you need your meds. Your assuming I'm the Boogeyman you're mental illness has imagined

>>136887027
>mental illnesses are spiritual problems
Kek did a post on spirit sciences facebook tell you that

Get help lad, last bit of sympathy I'll extend to you having been in the same situation

>>136887336
Read the thread

>>136887382
You have no tests. No bodily evidence. You never have evidence. You just add to your own bullshit theories. And then you make fun of Christian faith. It's the only science textbook you need

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>>136872779
>>136872969
>t. idiot

If the earth were a flat disc centered around the north pole, then why is it that people looking "south" (which I guess means any direction directly opposite north on the flat earth model) all view the same constellations of the southern hemisphere? People looking south from south africa, argentina, and australia will all see the same night sky (but rotated). This only makes sense if they're looking toward an actual south pole, whereas on the flat earth model, they should all be looking in completely opposite directions.

>>136887498
Wtf i love globe o sexuals nao