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Women substituting pets for children..

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How do we stop this insidious trend? I mean it wouldn't be so bad if they just acted like normal adults who own pets but these psychotic bitches full-on anthropomorphize them by dressing them up in silly costumes and having birthday parties for them etc, it's sick. The female brain just goes insane if a woman has not been knocked up by 23 years of age, they literally think a 4 legged animal is their baby.

How do we redirect this (normally) healthy nurturing instinct away from animals into the nuclear family where it belongs?
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It's pretty cringey, but at this point the toothpaste is out of the tube. We need white Sharia.
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>>136855914
>not being the woman's pet instead
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Crazy women shouldn't be having kids. They'll just breed more lefty cucks.
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>>136855914
Just mock them till they die. The "cat lady" joke works great.
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>>136855914
Outlaw ownership of pets.
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WELL I WONDER WHY
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>>136855914
its better that way
why would you with a sane mind let these women take care of children
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>>136856288
>meanwhile she still has yet to have even one (1) white child
Really does get the 'ol synapses firing
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Here, I'll end the thread early for you.

Be a man they would want to have children with.
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>>136856107
no it doesnt and its fucking retarded just like the "youre a virigin" which doesnt insult people, but distances them from yourself
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>>136856387
Apparently she's 22 despite looking like she's 30
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>>136856522
I reiterate: And meanwhile she still has yet to have even one (1) white child
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>>136856693
She's a kike so she'll never have a white child.
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>>136855914
So women are emotional and starts to see animals as more worth then their own flesh and blood. Yes this is a trend western womyn will have since they chose to have a career and being general slags, so their only comfort in having children is pets.
How can we stop it? Well, shot the pet in front of her so she snaps out of it, after awhile she will be so used to dead animals or them dying that she can't put a solid trust in them, also cats are the worst since they can live up to 20 years.
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>>136856823
>She's a kike so she'll never have a white child.
You are going to summon her most zealous orbiter
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>>136856482
t. Cat Lady
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>>136856693
I'm 22 and there's no fucking want to have kids this young. What the fuck are you crazy? I'll have some when I'm 30ish with much better income and had a chance to live life on my own
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>>136856823
>She's a kike
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>>136856905
based finn
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>>136855914
Women are made to bear children. It's their design and purpose. When they refuse, this is what you get. It's mental illness.
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>>136856456
Exactly. When there is a problem, there's also a duality problem.
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>>136856992
t. 20yrold country kid
yes i have cats and horses and all sorts of fucking animals
cats are animals for intelligent people, while dogs differ very little from advanced ai, they are dumb ugly smelly disgusting creatures
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>>136857033
>Translation: I want to keep being a degenerate for another 8-10 years while Jamal and Pedro and Chaim keep sabotaging the white birth rate
Thanks for proving my original point.

Laura "please donate to my BASED patreon" Southern isn't qualified to whine about white birth rates if she's of this mindset.
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>>136857033
you can try but very few men will want you when youre thirty
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>>136856693
Noted
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>>136856079
> We need white Sharia.

Agreed. I don't even care about having a wife at this point, just fixing shit so future generations can.
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>>136857222
>all sorts of fucking animals
which animals do the best fucking?
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>>136857231
>have kids when you don't have the money to support them.
Yeah nice point idiot.
Like I said. I'd rather have stable income so I can make sure my kid has a great life growing up and I can get them everything they deserve
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Sometimes women get pets because after a while and many failed relationships they realize that no human wants to put up with their shit.
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>>136856079
Islam reveres cats
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>>136857354
I'm a guy
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my sister has a dog and treats it like a baby.
she said she doesn't want children because they would ruin her body and steal her time.
her boyfriend wants children because he is like 35 (she is 29) and it doesn't look like its ever going to happen. she also has lots of degenerate habits like drinking, smoking weed/cigarettes and whoring around and cheating on her bf.
she also doesn't cook properly, only eats just enough to not get heavier than 57kg.
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>>136856079
>still shilling for this
go home
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>>136857498
cats and chickens
nowadays most of animals are artificially insemenated by the vet since having bulls is a pain in the ass for people and doesnt pay off
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>>136857354

Most 29 year old women I've met are 31-37
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>>136856905
B-but finland is high iq
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>>136857610
most of men start a family by their late twenties/thirties naturally

its women who need to do it much earlier because of biological clock
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>>136857554
Not an argument, cuckold. There are white men your age who are making the compromises and sacrifices to have children right now because they realize what's at stake.

You're simply making excuses to (poorly) conceal your arrested development and prolonged adolescence. If you're not a degenerate who doesn't have any connection to his extended family, then you should have no problems making sure your kid has a "great life growing up" and "getting everything they deserve".

You're just falling for the jewish "dude don't breed for another 10 years I promise it'll be worth it lmao" trick, while Juan, Tyrone, Achmed, and Schmuley are breeding left and right.

You're more or less the male version of Laura "based" Southern
>DUDE we need more white babies
>but uh not me lol I gotta wait a bit because reasons lol you guys get right on that for me though lol
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>>136856693
If she hits 28 and doesn't have at least one at that point then I will concede this point to you, but she's only 21
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>>136855914
it's just all so depressing.

It's over for humanity. We just aren't coming back.
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>>136857593
fair point
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>>136857498
Thanks leaf. That was the question I was going to ask. Keep up the good work.
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>>136857924
Nah. I'll have children when I want. Fuckin loser
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My last girlfriend had a dog for a surrogate kid. She had a subscription to get a box of toys for it every month called bark box, and she even paid a shit ton of money to take him to some doggy daycare thing to train him where they even had a graduation ceremony for them where they gave em little doggie gowns and caps. It didn't help btw, dog was still a complete hellion after that.
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pets are soooo much better than children

cuter
less maintenance
less annoying
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>>136857934
Not an argument. There are white women within """""the movement""""" who have had 1-2 kids by her age (she's actually 22 iirc), because they had the wherewithal and the common sense to not only have children early but have children with a non-degen man who will stick around and actually be able to contribute/provide to the household.

She genuinely has no excuse if she's so neck-deep within """""the movement""""" (which ostensibly has many non-degen [white] alpha-level providers she can choose from). Especially with all the hundreds of thousands she's already hoarded through her Patreon Enablers. She can leave the kids with her parents/his parents while she's out doing her wood-shield-LARP stuff, and she can look after them at home when she's making her "pls donate to my patreon" videos.

No excuse.
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This shit has been going on forever. Pliny or Plutarch, I forget which, claimed Augustus bemoaned about how women would carry around little monkeys and other small pets in place of children.
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i'm 26, my girl is 33, and she is hell bent on having a kid. im not ready, think its time to move on and find a younger women
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>>136857924
How many children do you have? Prove it with timestamps.

>Have children as soon as you finish puberty goy. Don't worry about money, the government will help! "It takes a village" am I right? *nyehehe* *frenzied rubbing"
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>>136857894
i'm 30, my wife is 28 and We think she's pregnant! yay!
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>>136855914
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>>136857033
>falling for the better income when old jewery
Are you boomer?
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>>136858610
Good job man
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>>136858427
Ideal is for you to be ~5 years older than your partner
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>>136858636
Like I said I'm 22
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>>136857641
Did she cheat on him with you, Hans?
>green text it
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>>136858427
You really should. She doesn't have much time left and if you're not interested in kids with her you should let her go.
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>>136855914
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Am I degenerate if I need to put a sweater on my Rhodesian ridgeback in the winter so the doggo doesn't freeze to death?
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>>136858754
>Did she cheat on him with you, Hans?
how would you even come to that conclusion Fritzl?
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female dog owners are worse, engaging in bestiality. at least cat cant fuck you.
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>>136857641
she may not realize it now but eventually she will pay the price for shit like that she did in her life
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>>136858958
No that just means you care about your dog
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put them in jail for undermining the state
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>>136858967
Then why don't you tell him and let him off the hook, nigger?
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>>136855914
>How do we stop this insidious trend?
Ban pets? Bans always work.
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>>136857641
why don't you intervene and do everything in your power to stop her from corrupting your bloodline?
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>>136855914
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>>136858850
This. Break up with her, get /fit/rich/handsomeboy/ Find younger woman. Impregnate her 3 - 4 times.
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>>136855914
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>>136855914
I have no problem with people wanting pets over breeding idiot children that weigh heavily upon an overburdened infrastructure in the US. Also cats in cute outfits are SUPER KAWAAIII!!!
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>>136855914
Women are insane because men are cucks
Women flock to Jamal and a dog because you're doing the virgin pee
Women are emotional creatures that have an instinct to nurture and breed. If they want to race, they will always pick what they see as the stronger horse always. If you ignore that instinct and allow them to run around and be degenerate then they'll give that love and nuturing instinct to an animal. They're doing it because they want to raise something whether or not they'll admit it to themselves.

This is the hardest redpill ITT. Women are degenerate sluts because men are fucking cucks.
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>>136859231
this dude is usefull and I can exploit some skills of his as long as he is together with my sister.

>>136859024
I told her that for about 10 years now but she doesn't care

>>136859301
no idea what to do, its her life not mine.
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>>136859471

Kek
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>>136859289
as someone who lives in a slavic country im yet to see a single example of that

still waiting for people to start wearing seatbelts, stop driving 80kmh on settled roads,
stop drinking alcohol since theyre 8 years old...
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>>136859528
>women dindu nuffin
>they gud girls
>they jus need mo surrogate fathers
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>>136858958
No. Only colored subhumans knowingly abuse things directly under their care.
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>>136859528
>This is the hardest redpill ITT. Women are degenerate sluts because men are fucking cucks.
*on the internet
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>>136859680
That's not at all what i said and you're exactly the person I'm referring to when i say "this is a hard redpill."
Yes, women are insane. Now if you can, tell me why.
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>>136856456

Problem is, they aren't women that I want to have children with. THey're insane and living with them is insufferable.
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>>136859544
the worst thing is that they think we are like american protestants who want to control their lives

in reality we dont give a shit about what other people do, but being "le evil social conservative" is only because we want wahts best for them

in their 30s/40s/when they get pumped and dumped and nobody wants them anymore, they end up with a dead job, a life they hate and a mariana trench pussy, they realize whats happening but its too late
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>>136859817
>Thats not at all what I said
"they dindu nuffin, they just need surrogate fathers" is exactly what you said
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>>136859680
Women are destroying western society
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>>136859992
Ye
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>>136859723
In real life, they're cucks. Females don't want numales or soft spoken pushovers. They'll tell you they do. They're lying.
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>>136859978
No, I said women are insane because men are cucks. You're not helping the point by repeating yourself when you're wrong
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>>136856079
Enlightenment - evolved outcome
Civil War - neutral outcome
Complete collapse - hell

>Chose one
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>>136859946
true dat
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>>136859022
most people dont have sex with animals; believe it or not.
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>>136860030
I'm not saying they do either, but most people are not "soft spoken cucks" or "interracial gangbang whores". (((they))) are trying to get it that way.
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>>136855914
That cat looks scared as fuck
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>>136859649
so slavic countries are like the hillbilly states of the US? sounds like west virginia
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>>136860473
This is objectively correct. A strong nuclear family is the best defense against (((them))) and they know it. So they tell girls it's ok to be a white and be by yourself and they tell boys to never fought to never get angry and to never take control when all 3 are healthy. So you get this fucked up dichotomy where females are still driven by emotional and biological instinct so they fuck Tyrone because Tyrone isn't paying attention to the rules and John Smith is so tied up and tired of them he sits at home and shitposts and plays video games. It's shit, so don't play by their rules. Nature wins.
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Get women to realize that they don't need college & careers. They suck. Trade uterus for being taken care of. Quality of life improves, children do better, man is happier. Get pregnant younger, healthier baby's safer pregnancy....

This shit with animals costs nearly as much as child. And is clearly a substitute for a family
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>>136860749
not exactly
we dont have protestants or protestant culture, we are not fat and we dont do drugs like crazy

we are more like louisiana with a cold weather and people that dont give a shit about the law and dont believe in the system
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>>136859649
Racism, Holocaust denial and gay propaganda are effectively banned. Bans work.
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>>136859992
true an overwhelming amount of "educated" women voted obama
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>>136858324
I'll still give her a couple of years. I don't even pay attention to this woman anyway, literally never watched any of her videos except the one where she legally changed herself to a man
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>>136861064
only thing of those that work is ban on gay propaganda which would work even if gay propaganda was state enforced because easterners hate faggots

go take your good goy protestant mentality somewhere else
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>>136861144
>I'll still give her a couple of years.
So "she's gonna ride the cock carousel for another 3-5 years before she cashes in her Patreon checks and latches onto a man"

really warms my brake fluid
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>>136859992

I hypothesize that personality disorders have become rampant in western women. More than half. They are always looking for a better deal.
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>>136855914
>How do we stop this insidious trend?
we don't. because it's funny.
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Dogs are great.
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>>136855914
Fuck off muslim. There is nothing wrong with pet and animal ownership.
>>136856273
Die fuck face.
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>>136861408

dogs are great but people who think that their dogs are their own children dressing them up and calling themselves "dog moms/dads" are bad
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Dog is a mans best friend.
A dog will always love you unconditionally and will never betray you.
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>>136862365
Dogs do not love you. They literally view you as the leader of the wolf pack and are sucking up to you for protection. They are 4 legged Jews.
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>>136862631
You're an idiot
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>>136862631
Is that why dogs will literally kill themselves trying to save their owner. Stupid fucking cat posters
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>>136861263
I straight up don't give a fuck man
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>>136856456
Better idea, Be a respectful woman worth having children with.

Not some roasty bitchy cunt with a mean nasty asshole attitude.
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>>136862365
Dogs are wonderful and Dogs are part of the Nuclear Family, but not replacements for the kids

Goes like this
Mother- Father, Johnny, Sally, Susan- Roofus

Doesn't go like this
29 yr. Old Childless- Cuck, Tyrone, Roofus
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>>136862631
kys
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>>136862904
You know when they try to lick your mouth when you greet them? They are actually trying to get you to vomit so they can have some of the reindeer you just ate. Sad how humans cannot help but project their feelings and emotions on animals.
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>>136862631
Fucking retard. Dogs fall in love with families, that's the fucking point of them. Dogs go nose to nose with their owners to smell their breath, checking for disease or stress hormones. Dominance and pack theory are BULLSHIT even for wolves.
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>>136863623
>Smiling Pig Image
Whoa guys it's 2007 all over again!
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>>136863881
You are retarded
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>>136863623
You first faggot. Enjoy your filthy slobbering piss and shit machine.
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>>136863961
Is it because they love you so much? Did you know if you die with your dog locked in the house with you it will eat your face off?
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>>136858614

>...Free me.
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>>136864119
Because you think dogs act like birds
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>>136861263
By the time she is done that carousel of riding dick in 5 years, she has turned into a fat roasty bitch and i don't want to deal with the stupid cunt anymore.

https://youtu.be/7MVa9lHes98 - where the good men went.

Women, your destroying yourselves, and your destroying western society because your being a cunt. Stop it.
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>>136863936
Fucking hell a lot of deluded people here. A dog will eat the ass out of a living sheep when it gets the chance. it has no human emotions like love you fucking dipshit. It views your family as the pack and you as the alpha wolf.
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>>136863162
You're giving women too much agency, which is beta as fuck. Act like someone who expects a wife (a REAL wife, not just someone you're married to) and you'll get one. Women's psyches are really, really malleable, stop falling for the feminist lie that they think just like us.
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>>136864119
your dog hate is irrational.

I know all about dogs. I am a dog guy. Dogs are wonderful asymmetric companions for people. I got a healthy doggo on my feet right now. It's comforting for me, it's comforting for him. He hears and smells things I don't, and that's useful. He'd die for me. I wouldn't die for him, but the thought is there.

The basis of this thread is that women are using pets, like dogs, as replacements for people. That doesn't work! But that doesn't make dogs bad.
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>>136859856
see>>136864602


Good wives are made, not found.
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>>136856456
lolololol
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>>136864710
That's great but let's not pretend the dog has any higher thoughts than: "eat" "fuck" "piss" "shit".
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>>136855914
The reason for this is the whole equality bs

Woman don't get shamed for whoring around anymore what makes them just a one a hole on legs
The thought of being a mother doesn't cross theire mind because of muhh career but since the chemicals are stronger than the ideology they belive in they project theire maternal instincts to small animals i.em small dogs cats
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>>136865073
I don't. They're animals, but that doesn't stop them from making great companions. That's why I said you are irrational.
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>>136864316
This man has braindamage
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>>136861263
You sound incredibly bitter that you could never fuck a girl like her, desu.

Its the same with all you nerds who hate on her, you are angry because you could never get someone like her.
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>>136865751
Not an argument
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>>136855914
I think the problem is two-fold...

1. One problem is the emasculation of Western men. Women, underneath it all, are still attracted to masculine men behaving in traditional patriarchal roles.

2. Couple this with the media brainwashing women to see such masculine behavior as toxic or evil. They then begin to deny their own urges.

End result, is they date a handful off feminized betas and are then consequently unfulfilled... as a result they end up seeing men, in general, as a waste of time.
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>>136864119
ain't that cat's?
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>>136865840
>1. One problem is the emasculation of Western men. Women, underneath it all, are still attracted to masculine men behaving in traditional patriarchal roles.
Just start breaking rule number 1 and the problem will solve itself
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>>136855914
Me and my girl love our cat, but she still wanna be bred as soon as I put a ring on it. Lets not turn on our animals friends just yet.
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>>136866027
Nah its dogs. That women who got the worlds first face transplant lost her nose and lips when she passed out during a suicide attempt. Her loyal Labrador decided to snack on her face while she lay unconcious. Her rationalization was that he was trying to "wake her up" lol
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>>136866314
Pets are great for kids when you have them. And you'd better have them, anon. >>136866570
>Nah its dogs. That women who got the worlds first face transplant lost her nose and lips when she passed out during a suicide attempt. Her loyal Labrador decided to snack on her face while she lay unconcious. Her rationalization was that he was trying to "wake her up" lol
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>>136855914
Well it's easy, just make sure women get pregnant.

Problem is the media tells them being pregnant is bad, kids are bad, family is bad.

Destroy the corrupt media and replace it with good influences.
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>>136866570
Got an article? Sounds pretty neat to read.
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>>136855914
My sister is 30, married and been with the same guy for 7 years.

They have recently got a dog and she talks to it and treats it as though its her baby.

White women are fucked in the head.
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>>136855914
im fine with this
just keep them out of my life, thanks
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>>136866110
I think, still though... the influence of the media brainwashing females to reject patriarchal behavior is a huge factor.

When masculine men see women pairing off with feminized betas, they start to question their own life choices and style.

After all, in the end it's about getting laid. Most men don't care about some style or ideal... The urge is so strong it comes down to "whatever works."
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>>136856085
That's the crazy part anon, white women never see white men and white children as something to nurture and protect. They invite all these swarthy brown men and act like moms towards them. While white men are dying in the mines in droves, white women date black and brown men and treat them like pets. It's a sickness
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>>136859992

i showed this to my girlfriend and she was not very amused
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>>136867203
Find a way to subtly point this out to her every chance you get. Plant the seed of doubt about her life choices in her head.
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>>136867203
Keep telling her "wow, it sure does seem like you want a kid" at every opportunity
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>>136867203
7 years? what is she waiting for? I think its never going to happen.
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>>136855914
Get women pregnant and then marry them. The reason why marriages often fail is that the father tries to get the wife to abort the first kid. Of course, assholes won't admit they wanted to kill their child and will instead just claim that marriages fail for "unknown reasons".
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That reminds me of the most cucked couple I know. Early 20s, both work in hospitality. The girl has made it clear she never wants to have kids and the guy just accepts it like a pussy.
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>>136857033
>this young.
Kill yourself.
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>>136855914
Every gender substitutes pets for children that is the whole point of having a pet.
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>>136857554
Money isn't the issue. Being a good parent is better than being wealthy.
>she said she doesn't want children
Women say that when they've been tricked into aborting their first child. They'll act like they hate kids just so that the next asshole who fucks them won't put any effort into birth control due to his belief that she'll abort the kid.


Very common tactic women use.
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neko case
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>>136858208
This
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>>136855914
>Women substituting pets for children
More and more children want a woman instead of a pet?
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>>136859471
rofl
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>>136855914
fucking idiot. dogs and cats are the perfect way to test shit. Met my wife when we were 20, we got a dog at 22. Dog is still with us still now, but we would not have been ready for our 2 boys if it wasnt for the fact that a puppy requires a good amount of responsibility. Want to be a good parent? Be a good pet owner. I spoiled my dog and my dog became a pain, I LEARNED FROM THIS SHIT. My kid isnt getting a phone till hes 16 and is going to learn self-control. Get a fucking pet too cause FEMALES are always depressed. Holyshit my wife was so depressed but when we got the dog it was therapeutic as shit. Children are obviously a whole other game and require a lot more effort, but pets are a great way to start off and learn some responsibility with your life. Besides the Nuclear family always has a good dog in the picture OP. The dog that is always with them at cookouts and firework shows. That dog grew up with the kids cause that dog was with the parents first. OP when a women has a pet they will fall on a line where one side is they want to have kids and the other is HELL NO. You can figure your entire life from that. Getting a pet immediately attaches a responsibility of life to YOU, fuck if they dont want kids. It teaches people to care for something besides themselves.
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>>136855914
Link them to that news story that says pets cause a lot of the global warming. The stupid cucks will fall for it and kill their own cats
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>>136855914
that is a massive fucking cat

seriously

its head is the same size as her head
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>>136857033
>Be woman
>Have children at 30+
>All your kids have autism and downs
>Blame vaccines
Or you know you could have kids at a reasonable age so they won't be defective people who should be euthanized.
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>>136873716
Maybe it's a maine coon
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>>136873716
>not understanding the basic optics of a dome
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>>136860123
Interesting meme.
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>>136857222
Having a dog is a control thing for guys. You can yell at it,beat it, hit it and still will always come to you for love. Cats would be like fuck you and shit on their pillow
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>>136855914

Most western people treat pets as children, keep them inside their houses and let them lick their faces. Even men do that.

Western civilization is disgusting, I'm glad it is dying.
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>>136858208
Kill yourself.
unless you're non-white, in that case kill yourself too
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>tfw divorced with 2 boys
>tfw replaced women with my 2 year old doggo

No regrets. I am 100% done with the vaginal jew.
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Change that pack to a portable frontload washing machine, and maybe they get laid sometime.

Do some laundry, itll get more dick than smelling like a litter box pussy.
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I hate this pet parent bullshit. As a parent, you raise a human that's dependent on you to become independent that can live on his/her own. You're a caretaker for a pet, because you keep the pet dependent upon you for its needs.
However:
Cop:" I had to shoot that dangerous animal. It was gonna kill me!"
Homeowner: "You shot my goldfish!"
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>>136857033
Fuck that I turn 23 in 4 months and my wife and I have started trying for kids this last month. She works full time as do I but the moment she is pregnant she is taking her leave and becoming a house wife . You know you've found the right women when not only was she a virgin when we got engaged but all she wants to do is be a stay at home mum.

On top of this she also thinks that feminists ruined the great women in the part of not being expected to work or go to university but just stay at home and have kids, cook and clean.

Her father is an amazing man as her older sister is exactly the same with her husband.
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I've heard women refer to their pets as 'furbabies.' These women need help and in a big way. But hey, they've been saying for years that they're strong and independent, and this is the result. These women are in theirs 30's and 40's and they don't have love, they don't have families; but what they do have is the knowledge that they "stuck it to men" in a big way. Oh, and furbabies.
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>>136879097

>Amazing

This is pretty common in America if you didn't raise your daughters on media and/or in a Metropolitan.

I live in North Dakota in a rural environment and domestic housewives are still are norm.
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>>136857222
>>136877956
>projecting this hard

Stupid beta cat owners
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>>136859471
Żabka
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>>136855914
I don't know if women have always done this in some form or another, but it's really obvious nowadays that their pets are actually surrogates for children.
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>>136879343
We live just outside a major city. However he is a SDA pastor as is my now brother in law.
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>>136879289

I would be lying if I said I didn't love my dog (to a different degree compared to the family in my life) but yeah the furbaby shit and pet dad/mom shit makes me cringe so hard.

I love my dog because he is one of my best buddies and we chill out together. I drink my beer and he chews on his bone. Why can't we just keep things simple like that without fagging it up?

You're pretty much a bonifide nigger if you don't at least like dogs to some degree even if you can understand they aren't people.
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>>136856079
>white Shariah

You don't want to end-up like the UK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kXIO7HcdX8
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>>136879943
True enough. I just think it's a little insane to see dogs as children. They're faithful, loving companions and that's the extent of it.
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>>136869819
"Houston, air pressure is low, do you copy?"
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>>136855914
>How do we stop this insidious trend?
Artificial wombs
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>>136857714
>having bulls is a pain in the ass for people

They are prepping them wrong.
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>>136855914
WTF I watched a woman pushing her dog in a baby stroller two days ago. Didn't know this was a widespread thing.
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>>136858427
How long have you been with her? *

Has she gone to the doctor to see how fertile she still is?

Is she a good gf to you? Would make a good wife?

* If the answer is more than 2 years you have wasted her time. You are part of the problem.
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