americlaps will defend this

>>136844600
Jesus will captain that ship and take us to the moon and defeat the reptilians

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>>136844600
Big if true

Dudeeee what is this fucking thing hahahaha

>>136844600
only in america would someone rich enough build something this impractical from a fantasy book kek

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>>136845368
>>136845330
>>136845279
>>136845176

Fuck sources.

>>136845545
so its a museum? that makes more sense, i thought it was just some business magnate who was living out his biblical fantasy

>>136845545
Okay, but didn't some guy already build a full scale model of the ark was like, and they finished it, and it was actually seaworthy?

>>136844600
>the government pays for theme parks
Are you a Canadian on vacation, because you're saying some dumb shit.

>>136844600
tfw there are bigger freightliners

>>136845545
Dude I thought it was a real ship and they were gonna fucking use it to do shit

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>>136845599
>>136845735
>this is what burgers ACTUALLY believe

>>136845735
>fantasy
It's been scientifically proven that the flood and Noah's journey was real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyfRYO_ul_8

>>136844600
But if there's a global warming flood we'll be able to save all the animals!
You would thank us, but you will probably die in the flood.

>>136844600
can that ship even carry 2 "full size" americans?

>>136845960
yeah i bet you brought lions and elephants on the boat as well

no shit there were floods but that doesn't mean it was an apocalyptic one and every species on earth was present

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>>136845368

>>136845905
tax incentives != paying for

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>>136844600
>that was built by one man with 0 technology
>that's large enough to accommodate 2 of every animal species with food, cleaning, water, etc
christcucks are literally retarded

>>136846191
>and every species on earth was present
bible never claims this

>>136845905

Yawn, the only Whites in this country who believe that sort of idiocy are the ones in the Deep South (who are largely descended from Britain's underclass, btw, you guys should seriously apologize for blighting us with those convicts).

Trust me, there's a reason they built that monstrosity in Kentucky. Very few people would take that thing seriously north of the Ohio River.

>>136846392
yes it does

>>136846191
Every kind was present. How big is a baby elephant? How big a baby lion? The flood did cover the entire earth, the Bible says the flood was world-wide. Remember that many species we know today developed from the species on the ark. I don't think Noah had every modern dog breed on the ark.

Noah didn't have AC on the roof

verweichlichte müllfresser

>>136846324
Considering the US is in a budget decifit, it kinda does. That's more debt the taxpayer will have to pay for.

>>136846440
Where does it it say species?
>>136846407
Most Northerners are not even American

>>136846479
>0 evidence
>0 sources
>reddit flag
ukuck, leaf, poo, swede, or cuckman

>>136846392
it literally does, also says it was an apocalyptic event

>>136846479
kek

>>136846479
I'm just curious to know how something that large, made of wood could possibly function at all. It would certainly break apart.

>>136846517
Not my problem the government wastes money on useless crap
They can go bankrupt for all I care

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>>136846573
>Where does it it say species?
>where does it say a word that the primitive people, who did not even know how rain worked, did not know existed
it's almost as though the bible is a primitive fairy tale written by primitive people

>>136846517
No it doesn't theres going to be sales tax on all of the tickets. The government will make their money back.

>>136846573
"two of every animal boarded the ark"

you're moving goal posts at this point give it up you unironically believe a flood covered the planet and earth started over from the ark

like holy shit what is wrong with some of my countrymen

its almost like the bible was a primitive story made by a primitive people who didnt know shit about how the planet worked

>>136844600

Dear Bong,

you should be happy America is faithful to it's christian culture and whorship God.
Turn back to God, he turns back at you. This is why the West is dying;

>>136846614
>it literally does,
Show me the verse

>>136846582
>0 evidence
>0 sources
It's compatible and proven by modern scientific discoveries (earth strata, clams on Mount Everest, etc).

>>136846661
The Bible says God told Noah how to build the ark. We even know where the ark landed after the flood was over after 150 days, in the area of mount Ararat, where we found pieces of the ark and enormous weights to keep it steady.

>>136846858
>0 evidence
>0 sources
>reddit flag
ukuck, leaf, poo, swede, or cuckman

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>>136846691
>>136846748
Kind of Animal

>like holy shit what is wrong with some of my countrymen
Go back to yuope then degenerate this is our country

>>136844600
You forgot the part where they put rainbow colored lights on it for LGBTQWGFSNS.

>>136845892
Nope it would sink the moment it hit the water.

>>136845545

This is hilarious. Fucking Americans never fail to amaze me.

>>136846933
it's almost as though the bible were written by people so primitive that they had developed no idea of taxonomy or the gigantic number of "kinds" of animals that exist outside of their local geographic region

>>136846719
Except nobody's buying tickets not even enough to pay to keep it running never mind pay back the money spent on it.

>>136845545
>$60 / ticket
Fucking christcucks lmao

>>136846324
Lefties believe only the State can own money

>>136847121
So you admit you were wrong and it never said species

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>>136846573
>Most Northerners are not even American

I do get why Southerners feel this way. My ancestors came here in the 1850s and I really have very little emotional connection to the historical American nation, founding fathers, etc.

The South really is 'the real America' (as a lot of locals down there like to say).

>>136847199

Yeah sure, spend it on (((Spielberg)))'s DVD or Mr Shekelstein's porn, instead of this.

>>136847222
A you one of those creationist retards who talks about kinds?

>>136847222
i admit they didn't use a word that their primitive understanding of the world was ignorant towards

define "kind" and while you're at it explain how these "kinds" could re-distribute themselves globally and form ecosystems within the very very short 3000 years or so

also tell me what hebrew word "kind" was translated from

>>136847121
>no idea of taxonomy
So when the Bible taxonomically divides the different animal kinds in Genesis, that doesn't count? Stop being silly. Noah could easily fit those animals on the ark. Obviously he used baby animals, and obviously every breed today wasn't present then, but came about as animals spread around the earth and slightly developed because of changes in the climate. The Bible tells us how large the ark was and it fits with modern calculations of the animals needed on the ark.

>>136847379
That is what the bible says

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>>136847454
>So when the Bible taxonomically divides the different animal kinds in Genesis
>taxonomically

>>136844600
Not even religious but i rather spend money on this than feeding niggers

>>136847379
"kinds" is a weasel word that has no meaning or, rather, whatever meaning is convenient for them to give it at any time

>>136847421
>define "kind"
How God groups them
>ould re-distribute themselves globally and form ecosystems within the very very short 3000 years or so
With God anything is possible

>>136847454
How long did the flood last?

>>136847567
Evolutionists can't even define specifies because it's a dumb, man-made concept. That's why the Bible uses the word "kind", because we all know what that means. Don't think you're smarter than God.

>>136847615
150 days if I remember correctly.

>>136844600
Gotta prepare for when God gets angry at all the fags and floods the world again.

>>136844600
It's hilarious people use the "Government pays for X so why not Y" argument.
The government shouldn't pay for anything. The government doesn't have a dime of its own money. It's all just redistributed wealth (aka. stealing) from its citizens.
Sage/hide this dumb thread.

>>136847739
God already made a pact with man that he would never end the world in flood again. The next apocalypse will be fire.

>>136847669
150 days on a ship with baby animals, many of which would certainly die without proper care. How many humans would've been on the arc to care for them?

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Return of the Holy Mountain from the t*rks when?

>>136847608
>With God anything is possible
so when you have no answer "god did it."
lmao

>>136847652
>Evolutionists
weasel word
>>136847652
>can't even define specifies
you can't even spell it, nigger. if you mean "species" then there is a scientific description of the term. your ignorance doesn't mean it doesn't exist, reddit flag man

>>136847882
The world didn't have fags and trannies then. It is time for another flood.

>>136847669
>reddit flag
ukuck, swede, leaf, poo, or cuckman?

>>136847615
40 days and 40 nights.

>>136847894
>so when you have no answer
I gave you an answer

Has anyone mentioned yet that you in most species need 500 individuals or more in order to maintain a healthy population?

inb4 "god made it work with magic"

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Okay Euros, here's what you need to know about White Americans (only reason Texas & Virginia have decent scores is that they've got tons of transplants in them).

>>136848018
"a wizard did it" is not an answer

>>136848024
>inb4 "god made it work with magic"
you're too late, reddit flag guy. see: >>136847608

>>136846407
>Kentucky is deep south

Take some geography classes you nigger. This is right across the river from Ohio

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I wish we would build more massive things. I want to see something impressive.

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>>136847888
They did have proper care, obviously, and they stacked the ship with foods to care for the animals. They were 8 humans on board the ship, which was Noah's family and their wives.

>>136847894
>you can't even spell it
Pic related.

>>136848121
Yes it is

>>136848258
>not deep south
>right across the river
nigger detected

>>136848363
It is indeed an answer

>>136848363
"a wizard did it" is not an answer

>>136848308
>deflecting this hard
you ignored the rest of my post, reddit flag faggot

are you a poo, leaf, swede, ukuck, or cuckman?

>>136848367
Oh yess i guess the shallow south starts at Wisconsin then

>>136844600
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ jesus is a capitalist dummy $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

>>136844600
If "tax incentive" equals "paying for" in your head, then our government indeed pays for all kinds of crazy shit.

I mean, what's the difference between "tax incentiving" a religious museum and "tax incentiving" a football stadium?

Hell, the government straight up paid for LACMA so people can go look at an orange box on the ground and ponder "fine art".

>>136844600
>dumb christians couldn't find the real thing (isnt real)
>build it so that when they die future generations will think it was real

>>136848407
"a wizard did it" is not an answer

>>136848441
>"a wizard did it" is not an answer
Why not?

>>136848258

Look up 'the American nations' by Colin Woodard, Kentucky is culturally & 'ethnically' Southern. The locals are descended from the same Colonial Brits & 'Scotch-Irish' who populated the rest of the South.

The people who live in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and the rest of the lower Midwest are mostly descended from German settlers, Puritans, & Irish laborers. They don't even look the same.

>>136848533
it assumes the existence of a wizard which has 0 evidence

>>136844600
What if the ark was not actually a boat but an ancient space craft that indexed the genetics of every known species of animal at the time?

>>136848441
>you ignored the rest of my post

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_problem

>The species problem is the set of questions that arises when biologists attempt to define what a species is.

Oops, it's almost like your puny human brain can't even define your own dumb ideas. The Bible says KIND because every KIND was on the ark.

>>136848407
Yeah, a stupid one, but an answer nonetheless.

>>136848603
>0 evidence
existence of the universe

>>136844600
god that looks cheap as fuck. Why can't people spend money on nice stuff like historically-accurate architecture?

>>136844600
>i want to pay taxes so genelets can breed on my dime

lel stah mad achmed

In May 2011, the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority voted unanimously to grant incentives of up to $43.1 million to Ark Encounter, LLC. for the project, by then projected to cost $172 million.

Imagine all the actual useful things they could have did with that money.

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>>136848706
non sequitur

>>136844600
i want to see if it can sail

>>136848871
>Imagine all the actual useful things they could have did with that money.
What useful things do they do with their money now?

>>136848953
Anything would be better than funding a multi-million dollar distraction.

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>>136849120
do you watch sports?

>>136848871
I think it's easy for me to hate democrats and liberal shits because I'm from the Northeast but I can't imagine actually being in these shithole states

It's really stupid but honestly it probably makes a lot of money. Most churches in my area and many families have traveled to see it. Even if it's the most retarded thing I've ever seen it actually generates a profit. Giving niggers healthcare would just be a drain.

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>>136848061
>only reason Texas and Virginia have decent scores is that they've got tons of transplants in them
Speaking for Virginia, because I can't speak for Texas, the transplants that moved down here are the dregs of the north, they moved down here because they couldn't find a decent job where they grew up, they're called carpetbaggers, and believe me when I say, are not the reason for the high IQ in the state, that would be the educational system and the defense corporations
>what a damn yankee?
A northerner that comes to the South to visit
>what's a good damned Yankee?
One who comes to visit and never leaves

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>>136849120
Public school?

>>136848672
I think "kind" here means every different animal
so god made a clone of every single animal in existence and noah stuffed them all on a boat
makes sense to me tbqh

>>136846773
Genesis says "bring two of all creatures"

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>>136849633
christcucks will just keep equivocating to obfuscate the argument

>>136848871
Teaching about the creation of the world and the flood is useful.

>>136849367
This. I live in Tennessee and the huge majority of yanks are beyond fucking stupid. They can't even follow the most basic instructions on how to operate their central units when my dad tells them over and over until he's blue in the face and they still end up blowing it up. I'm sure there's educated yanks but those are definitely not the ones moving south.

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>>136849801
fairy tales with 0 evidence do not belong in public schools, reddit flag man

>>136849909
Like evolution. Then we agree, great!

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>>136849961
lazy bait

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>>136845545
>There are so many exhibits and a lot of interesting theories about the Ark and the flood.

>>136849909
So in that case no theories should be taught as fact either. But they are.

>>136848299
>wants to see more massive things
STOP WATCHING PORN

>>136848871
Even if it's stupid the Ark will easily make that money back plus way more. I talked to someone who went to it. They charge for parking, getting in, and other shit. That's quite a bit of money they're squeezing out of evangelicals.

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>>136850124
>theories
>i do not the definition of a scientific theory

>>136850094
Evolutionists can't explain abiogenesis nor how or when another species or a "primordial soup" evolved into elephants. How many generations? Why? The step into a new species by another has never been observed. It's fantasy, pure religion. At least I'm man enough to admit that I believe in a religion, you'll insist what you're saying is plain fact. Stupid.

>>136849367

Seriously, I get the anger at Yankees moving to the South and I'm not implying all Southerners are dregs.

My core issue with the South is that, whereas most White Northerners are fine with leaving other nations alone, White Southerners tend to lean more towards the 'Murica booyah, blow them Commie bastards to bits' side of things. I still remember protests in Chicago against Clinton bombing Serbia but Southerners were all for it.

>>136847652
Species: a group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding. The species is the principal natural taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g., Homo sapiens.

>>136850102
There really was a massive worldwide series of floods at the end of the Pleistocene. The current hypothesis is that some fuckoff huge comet smacked into the Canadian ice sheets. The story of Noah is what remains of the cultural memory of the event by people who would become the Israelites.

>>136844600
Reminds me of old soviet puppet play where they made everything very commie like. With heavenly bureaucracy, everyone pretending flood plan is great to not anger the big boss and stuff. "Mankind, to make you happy we have to drown you first!"

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>>136850335
>i have done 0 research so i will just strawman my opposition

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>>136848481
Render unto Caesar motherfucker

>Dude like Jesus was a total commie because that would be advantageous to me - even if I don't adhere to any scripture
Kike

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>>136844600
>not building nuclear shelters
>not building a way to escape the hot firey ash of Yellowstone
At least he's set for floods.

>>136844600
It's about the same size as a passenger cruise ship, and the gov doesn't pay ... they charge admittance.

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>>136850124
>muh theories

>>136850347
The species problem is the set of questions that arises when biologists attempt to define what a species is. A species concept that works well for sexually reproducing organisms such as birds is useless for species that reproduce asexually, such as bacteria.

Oops, sounds kinda like the idea of "species" is broken from beginning to end. Kinda like how some of the laws of physics makes sense until you present a physical environment where it doesn't work. Realize that you're too dumb to understand how God made the world.

>>136850338
It was mainly due to the Southerners buying the bullshit narrative about Milosovic being a war criminal when all he wanted to do was remove Keenan, and northerners being their typical bourgeois pussy selves

>>136850404
>I will refuse to answer reasonable concerns posed by my opponents
Fine. I'll stop responding.

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>>136850589
>Kinda like how some of the laws of physics makes sense until you present a physical environment where it doesn't work.

>>136850644
*Kebab

>>136850686
>what is quantum mechanics
I thought the atheists would be the greatest nerds?

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>>136850667
>gets called out for basing arguments upon logical fallacies
>fine i'll just stop
noob destroyed

>>136844600
It's cool! We are using it to send all our niggers to Britain where they will rape with the blessing of the government in the name of "socialized medicine".

>>136850338
Southerners are natural fighters. Problem is we get exploited because of that by corrupt governments.

>>136850775
>"explain abiogenesis"
>N-NO, THAT'S A LOGICAL F-FALLACY!
I'll answer: God created life.

>>136849760
>>136849909
>>136850094
>>136850292
>>136850404

nap time

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>>136850740
>what is quantum mechanics
just a theory :^)

>>136851001
>just a theory
Thanks for proving creationists correct!

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>>136850926
>"explain abiogenesis"
it's been done in the 1970s you illiterate nigger.

>>136851299
>I'll refuse to explain it
Nice retort.

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>>136846350
>hurrrrrr the bible is unscientific hurrrrrrr

Why are atheists such stupid idiots?

>>136848871
Enough to piss off democrats so I'm fine with this

>>136850644

Yeah, we've definitely got a lot of whiny pussies up here. But at least they were like 'wait a minute, is Milosevic actually a threat to us?'

Part of the issue, imo, is that many Whites in the North are Europhiles whereas Southerners often view America as superior to Europe. It's just a very different mentality.

I'm a White Nationalist and this sort of difference exists on both the far right and the far left. Those of us in the North who are WNs often want to emigrate to Europe or build a separate ethno-state that sheds most of America's culture. Southerners want to take back America. We've just got completely different mindsets.

>>136851428
Atheists are dumb as hell. Ask them to explain how the Big Bang worked or how life came about. Watch them squirm.

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>>136851356
>i'll stop replying to you
>gets btfo
>replies again
topcuck

>>136851610
Keep filling those captches, lol. That gives you some time to research abiogenesis.

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>>136846350
>taking the bibble seriously

You're just as dumb as a fucking redneck.

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>>136846350
one man and his familly driven by god built that, what have you done with your life?
that's what i though. please neck yourself.

>>136850921

I think it's all the Scotch-Irish blood down there. The only part of the North with a lot of that heritage is the far West, and the locals out there act a bit like Southerners. Very feisty and tough.

Any way to break the cycle of exploiting the South's martial talents? Maybe set up a Southern political party to break the Republican's hold on that part of the country.

>>136847882
>" Oh look at the terror I wrought! I feel bad! Oh my dear Human creations, I swear I will never inflict such a terrible tragedy upon you all, for I love you so!"

>"Jk next apocalypse will be by fire. But hey, I promised no more floods! :^)

t. A child god

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>>136844600
>God Specifically states and Promises he won't flood the Earth again.

Whats the point of this ???

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>>136846573
You may not like it but just cause my family moved here in the early 1900s doesn't make you any less American than you or your family. Deal with it

>>136851581

we need only say 'We don't know yet.'

the burdens on the cunt making the assertions.

>>136844600
Where did you read that the government was paying for this? Some libtard "news" outlet?

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>>136848511
what chu talkin bout?
https://youtu.be/ua2k52n_Bvw

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I'm not Christian but god forbid some people, let alone White Americans have faith. I'm sure you'd prefer them being godless Atheists running amok pushing for Cultural Marxism and other means of degeneracy because
>lol god doesnt exist

Come the fuck on lads, I'd rather this than some Atheist modern art exhibit.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpgQSbwnWD0

>>136845545
>chad white
fuckin lel

>>136851963
It would help. The south hasn't had it's own party since the Democratic Party was stolen from us.

>>136853328
I mean the Ark isn't ideal but then I remember government funding also goes to those hideous abominations of "art" I see in every city and realize the Ark in comparison isn't that bad.

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>flyover states

>>136844600
Noah's crane is pretty big.

>>136845545
Is there literally any country more fucking retarded than America?

>>136850396
thats true and very interest especially the thought that the black sea may have been created overnight however thats not what that "museum" will be presenting nor exploring.....

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>>136845735
>a museum

>>136846858
where did all the water come from and go?

>>136844600

Real Question. Is it sea worthy for when the ice caps melt and we all get flooded?

Best Question. Does the person who seizes control of the floating ark rename himself Noah?

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>>136845176

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>>136845905
>Answers in Genesis (AIG)
that's a powerful organisation dude you don't want to be messing with them

>>136848871
How do you people not understand tax incentives?

The money doesn't exist. Tax incentives are a way to bring a project or industry to an area. If the tax incentive isn't offered and they don't build it there, then exactly zero dollars are generated for the state, including zero jobs, and zero tax on the purchases made there.

"All the useful things" are exactly nothing, because like I said, the money does not exist if the business does not go to that state.

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>>136844600
>Lefties: HOW DARE THOSE CHRISTIANS BUILD AN ATTRACTION BASED ON THEIR FAITH! THE STATE IS ESSENTIALLY PAYING FOR THIS BECAUSE THEY AREN'T TAXING IT 100% OF THE INCOME! REEEE! PAY FOR MY FUCKING HEALTHCARE!
>also lefties:

>>136846858
>in the area of mount Ararat,
>where we found ... enormous weights to keep it steady.

would those be large rocks, you know, the sort of rocks a mountain might be made of?

>>136854675
God created the water and flooded the earth as a punishment for mankind being out of control.

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>>136855335
No, it was certain weights used in ships. The weights are hung from under the ship to preserve stability in deep water during storms.

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>bible isn't a science where's the proofs at? Checkmate christcucks xD

The west is in decline because we want to believe our ancestors were stupid. Like when you were sure everyone was stupid except you when you were an edgy teen until someone decided to finally humiliate you. (Hopefully)

The lengths people will go to avoid admitting they don't know something are incredible. Just read the fucking book. It's the cornerstone of western literature and culture. You aren't fooling anyone with your pseudo intellectual sophomoric analysis.

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>>136855591
so every standing stone found across Europe and beyond is actually a ship weight

>>136844600
>>government pays for this

Who the fuck are you quoting?

>>136855791
These were found at mount Ararat where the ark landed. Did you see the hole at the top? Not every stone has these. There are also other pieces of the ark found there.

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>>136855972
>Not every stone has these.
fucking kek

>>136844600
This looks cools as fuck. Drop your atheist edgelord bullshit and just accept that a giant boat in the desert is a neat tourist attraction. If I'm ever in the area, I'm totally going to see this thing.

>>136856287
Epic retort.

>>136847888
The animals all went into magic hibernation, so they barely needed any food/water.

>>136850335
Actually abiogenesis has been researched heavily. Turns out if you put "primordial soup" in a bag and shock it, you get a huge amount of proto-RNA and proteins, along with lipid bilayer chunks and other cellular structures. It's only a matter of time and energy to actually create all the interworking of a cell by random chance, and the only difference between a living and dead cell is an imbalance of energy.

How many generations did it take for single celled organisms to evolve into elephants? That's impossible to say, considering we can't possibly have a detailed fossil record of cellular life. We can guess based on the amount of time, but it would be foolish to try to determine the exact year life started on Earth.

You say that the step into a new species by another has never been observed. First, I should mention that it is estimated that only 20% of the Earth's species have actually been observed and documented, with the vast majority of the remainder being oceanic animals and insects. So it's very possible that we haven't observed it because we haven't even seen everything that exists yet. Second, how do you define a species? Classically, they are animals that can't interbreed successfully with other species, and happen to have similar features. So alternatively, we might not be able to observe speciation because we can't see a large enough picture of breeding patterns. Beyond that, we have only lived through a small piece of the Earth's history, and as much as you probably hate this argument, we haven't given it enough time.

>>136844600
>brit fag
>arguing in favor of state run healthcare
>ignores the fact that NHS is in the middle of a financial crisis

never change, Muhammad

>>136845905
except for it is build and owned by Ken Ham, an Aussie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham

>>136855594
When you look at ancient civilizations, there were many things they did or believed that we would laugh at nowadays. Their lack of perspective was what sets them apart, not their lack of intelligence. When the OT was written, people didn't know that the Sun was a star, and that there were hundreds of thousands of planets just in our galaxy alone. They didn't even understand the concept of a galaxy. It's not that they were too stupid, but it's also not because they didn't have the observational equipment (in fact, we modern civilizations weren't the first to think that our Sun was a star, a few Greeks did too). It was because even if we told them, it not only wouldn't fit into their worldview, they just simply wouldn't understand as a society.

And in these same situations, the OT was written, which is the basis for the Genesis story. For the sake of actual argument, I will only reference the OT here, not the NT, Book of Mormon, etc. The Old Testament creation story is actually two different and slightly conflicting stories, one in which God creates the world in seven days and the other where God creates man in a garden. In the first, God separates lights and makes them guard over the night and the day. This is of course how ancient civs would have interpreted the sun and the moon (they are obviously both lights, right?).

But more on the Flood story. If there was a worldwide flood, how would the writers of the OT know? Besides their god telling them it was so, they couldn't possibly have interacted with cultures around the world, as they didn't have the technology to travel there. If we assume cultures were non-communicative, how would the OT writers know it wasn't just a large, regional flood? They couldn't possibly know differently without divine intervention, and to them, any flood large enough could be seen as worldwide. (cont)

>>136858479
Let's just be clear that the basis for the genesis story comes from sumeria / Iraq 3000 BC

>>136858829
And let's just be clear that the story of the flood, the garden of eden etc. all comes from ancient sumeria. thousands of years before your sand people fairy tales.

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>>136844600
good

>>136845905
No, it's what sane people believe.

>>136850667

here you kiddo, about 4,000+ scholarly articles for you to review.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=abiogenesis&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C22&as_sdtp=

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>>136855591
>>136855972

>>136851827
>being a heretic

>>136858829
>>136858960

Are you trying to argue that corroborating sources make an event less likely to have occurred?

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>>136846350
They actually found the ark

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xFpvKKmTF7c

>>136858479
I actually don't doubt that there was a flood in Noah's vicinity, and that he built a big boat for his family and probably his own livestock. However, it would have been physically impossible to keep every animal in the world on a single boat (especially not two to seven of each of them) and keep them all fed and disease free while preventing their consumption of each other. Even if god somehow coaxed all these animals together, they literally, volumetrically couldn't fit on the ark described in the book. It's far more likely that Noah had livestock which he saved by keeping them on a large boat. Think about it. Everyone else has their futures destroyed while this guy Noah literally saves his family and animals. He comes out of this flood on top of society, being one of the only people with food and commodities to sell. Of course someone is going to tell stories about him.

But lets talk about another claim believers make about the flood, which is that disconnected societies all around the world have flood stories. To this I only make a simple argument. Is it more likely that many cultures have flood stories because floods happen commonly and most cultures live near rivers, or is it more likely that a global flood descended on the Earth by the power of god? This is where your belief system takes over. You are more willing to believe the second reason because it fits with your worldview. Your worldview is based off a book that can at best be interpreted as the musings of a society that tried to explain things they didn't understand through stories and metaphor.

What if there was no flood, no garden of Eden, no seven day creation? Even if these things never happened, it would have no impact on the Christian religion. Christians could simply concede that these stories were created to provide examples and allegories about real life situations. The Flood describes god's wrath agains the unfaithful, but also his protection of those who believe. (cont)

>>136847882
I wish he would

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>>136848603
but there is faggot

https://youtu.be/3_2T47PAIkM
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/125637346/#125637346

>>136859547
The Creation story provides a reason for the seven day week and the Sabbath. The Garden of Eden is all about our inevitable fall to temptation (not just in the garden, but in our daily lives).

>>136858829
>>136858960
I don't understand what any of this has to do with my argument. I don't care which sand people (are you saying the Sumerians weren't sand people?) invented the stories. Also, let's be clear, Abraham is the father of the Abrahamic religions, and he likely came from Ur...what a coincidence.

Full disclosure, I am not a Christian, but I was raised going to church every Sunday.

>>136848871
>Imagine all the actual useful things they could have did with that money.
But it was put to good use

>>136859980
>2:26:47
Yeah I'm about to watch that whole thing to confirm my existing beliefs. I'll respond to you when this thread no longer exists.

>>136846517
>Considering the US is in a budget decifit, it kinda does.

Considering that the federal government didn't pay a single penny, you're a fucking retard.

>>136860159
How? Is god going to flood Kentucky too? The only thing this does is make it harder for people to take honest Christians seriously.

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>>136852825

>>136848441
>"a wizard did it"
Why do liberal have to interpret everything through entertainment?

>>136844600
That's a big boat

>>136852917
heres my proof

Genesis 1:1King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

>>136844600
why have healthcare when you can have a kickass ark?

>>136844600
I've been here before.
They had an exhibit about how Noah managed to get all of the dinosaurs on the ark kek

>>136860376
They weren't going to take them seriously in the first place, so who cares?

>>136860446
FOR YOU

>>136852645
To let us know that we don't need flood insurance

>>136860376
Because it makes gaytheists mad. Much more useful than building another fighter jet.

>>136845802
Won't find out till the next flood

>>136860871
Kentucky isn't building fighter jets, this is coming out of state taxes.

>>136846479
Have none of you retards considered that it was DNA and not the actual animals?
Fuck, I hate people so much

>>136844600
>government pays for this
Not the federal government, just retarded local governments.

>>136859547
Hebrews often taught in hyperbole. The point of Noah's Ark was supposed to be more about the moral of trusting God even when he's commanding you to do something that sounds ridiculous. There's probably some historical basis to the story but it clearly wasn't meant to be taken as literal history. It'd be like trying to claim The Illiad actually happened exactly the way it was told.

>>136861164
still more useful

>>136845905
God damn Wikipedia takes such a negative slant
Wonder (((why)))

>>136859980

No wonder the bible belt is a shithole with morons like you making up the voting populace. Sad!

>>136850396
This is true and I wish more people knew it.

>>136844600
So what? If it's giving you a seizure, it's already working how it's supposed to.

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Holy shit.
I just realized this whole ark project is as fake as the moon landings.
Just look at this photoshoped pic.

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>>136861809
at least we care about people

also im from MN

>>136862155
This red crane just disappears?

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>>136844600

City government's paying for it because it will stimulate tourism. National government isn't paying a fucking dime.

Try again Achmed.

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>>136858291

How in the Hell did a 'Straya cunt wind up a religious fundamentalist in Kentucky anyway?

>>136862823
I doubt this Ark project even exists.
Could be as fake as the Bible.
See photoshoped pic above.

>>136845545
>try to expand comment, zoom out of jpeg instead.

>>136846350
eh, the bible also claims people then lived like a 1000 years so this isnt that crazy if you believe that other crap

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>>136846674
>not my problem if all the services i rely on every day go to shit

>>136863219
It's already real and completed Anon. About half of my town has already went and seen it and took pictures.

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>>136846858
>We even know where the ark landed after the flood was over after 150 days
The bible was not specific of where it landed.
>the mountains of Ararat(Armenia/Urartu)

There is a mountain now called mount Ararat but it was not called that in biblical times. Ararat was the name of the entire region. The earliest latin bibles said "the mountains of Armenia" which is a more accurate translation and it refers to the entire country. It could be any mountain and they don't even know which mountain range it was part of.

Calling one particular volcano "Mount Ararat" is historically a fairly new thing (12th century or so, possibly a bit earlier).

So.... can it actually go out to sea?

>>136847862
The government didnt pay for anything here, they just gave tax breaks

>>136846765
Based Joan of arc poster

>>136844600
Ark > Paying healthcare to niggers and liberals

t. Atheist

>>136864475
No, it's basically just a museum shaped like a boat.

>>136844600
When did the government pay for that!?

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>>136844600

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Fucking Americans man, I swear...

>>136864895
They didn't pay for it. They paid for roads leading to it (major tourist attraction) the same way they pay for roads leading to Disneyland.

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>>136863219

It's real

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_Encounter

>>136864719

Fellow Atheist here, this.

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>>136845960
>all the millions of species can fit in that tiny boat
Sure thing pal

>>136864895
They didn't. Just tax incentives and shit because it will drive tourism and generate tax revenue for the city/state in the long run.

>>136864939
>I'm a retard who believes everything I read at first glance without the slightest attempt at verifying it
Fucking eurocucks, I swear...

>>136865256

>implying conservashits can count higher than 4000

>>136844600

Swedish fish version:
>It has a room for each gender
>will be turned into a mosque

>>136865256
>>136865337
Bible never say species

>>136845905

I wonder how they mean by pseudoscientific. I could see the educational value if one is researching the history of construction of these kinds of vessels. It'd be fascinating to know that at the time the Bible was written, they had this much knowledge of how to construct such a ship.

Ignore me, I'm stoned right now. But that's just my two cents on the potential value of visiting such a place.

>>136864719
What about using the money to do something useful like build infrastructure?

>>136844600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97k4z6Qe7JM&t=18s


A true Gospel presentation. Hopefully those who haven't heard watch, and those who have can share this.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

https://www.youtube.com/user/DrOakley1689

Good channels, hopefully they help people.

>>136844600
Better than paying for tranny surgery

>>136865575
We have enough infrastructure

'becuase da jesus is da only medicine you neeb'

'praise jebus, aben'

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>>136865948

This

Fuck faggots, cisgendered Christians are more productive citizens by far.

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The flood was real and there was probably some survivors from semi-developed ancient civilizations that survived by riding it out on existing naval ships. Everything else is fable and folklore.

>>136866167
Why cant atheists pay for their own healthcare?

>>136844600
>people really believe that one person built this with stone age technology.

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>>136845368
They have the know-how

>>136844600
Is this what low-IQ brits actually believe? That anything not paying taxes to the government is equivalent to the government PAYING for the endeavor? No wonder you guys need a fucking TV permit. You're the state's bitch and always will be.

This is just some asshole capitalizing on the retardation of the south.

>>136846350
if the ark story was true, then they most likely stored the DNA of the animals in tubes which wouldnt take up more than 1 room
but that would suggest technological superiority to us, thus proving the existence of a technologically superior ancient civilization

>>136867267
Forgot to SAGE this faggot bait thread

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>>136845368

>>136845960
>It's been scientifically proven

I don't think you know what those words mean.

>>136865676
Thank you. Really appreciate the ministry of Dr. White.

>>136846517
>a tax break costs the government money

No you fucking lefty, spending costs the government money. Spending is what creates deficits. If spending was tied to revenue, as it should be, the amount of tax revenue wouldn't matter.

And this project brings tourism, so it's a good investment.

>>136865492
>I wonder how they mean by pseudoscientific

They mean the park picks and chooses which parts of accepted science it acknowledges as fact and which it doesn't as it suits the narrative that a 350 year old man almost singlehandedly built a giant ship with bronze age technology and filled it with pairs of every currently existing animal on Earth. It ignores things like food storage, waste management, how/why the animals didn't eat or fight with each other, basic maintenance, how a species genetic diversity was maintained from just two parents, etc.

>>136866491
>The flood was real and there was probably some survivors from semi-developed ancient civilizations that survived by riding it out on existing naval ships
The flood happened when Noah was around 600 years old according to Genesis, which would place it around 2400BC (well into the early bronze age) and many ancient civilizations existed at this time.

Both Stonehenge and the great pyramids are older than the biblical timeline for the great flood and their cultures continued on uninterrupted before, during, and after the flood years.

Noah's flood would have had to be contained to a very small region if even Egypt wasn't affected. Egypt had floods, of course, but at no point did any flood get bad enough to actually submerge the entire kingdom and halt all progress for 100 years while they repopulated. The biblical flood happened during their recorded history and it was probably just a bad year for them on their floodplain.

>>136844600
>American
Ark Encounter is literally IRL Aussie Shitposting. Read about Ken Ham. And "muh gubermint" is really just the State of Kentucky, so not exactly all of real America.

>>136847421
>define "kind" and while you're at it explain how these "kinds" could re-distribute themselves globally and form ecosystems within the very very short 3000 years or so

I'm not a young earth person, but assuming a much older time span, perhaps during pangea the earth (a single continent) was flooded. People and animals would have been concentrated so this makes more sense. Then after flood they spread over the continents as they moved apart, which I believe is how animals spread across the earth according to current scientific thought.

Or maybe the word "world" isn't referring to the entire planet. Could just be known world at that time. We're dealing with hebrew translations here.

>>136845368
bait.

>>136845368
what makes it fantasy?

you were born, weren't you?

>>136844600
The age of Aquarius is coming. It will bring a great flood. It happens to earth every 1000 years or so.

>>136868905
The flood occured about 12,000 years ago at the end of the Younger Dryas period. The bible is not an accurate source for dates.

>>136870709
That is twice as old as the age of the earth according to young earth creationists. The major glacial flooding 12,000 years ago is generally something they do not believe in unless they can rework the geological timeline to match their biblical timeline.

>>136844600
>ancient 600yr old man builds ship
>modern cuckstain huckster has to beg for govt handout and modern technology to build the ship
Cuckstains unironically believe this global flood shit happened

>>136871145
Young Earth creationists are retarded, who cares what they think?

>>136872901
It's not even a ship, it's just a building shaped like a ship.

>garage in the bottom
>AC

>>136872901

It ain't even seaworthy

I'd actually impressed if they managed to build a seaworthy version.

>>136851963
Throw out the neocons in the republican party. If more of the US became red then the mix of Republicans could stop them. Really creating another party is nonviable, but we've seen the Republican party change over time.

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Why would someone build a boat in the middle of nowhere?

>>136844600
So how long has this taken to build with all the fucking cranes? And how much longer would it have taken 4 people with no iron tools? Is this meant to redpill hillbillies?

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>>136877220
Christians are fucking morons

>>136877220

next to NO WATER

>>136877335
I don't think they believe their own bullshit.

All they have to do is act retarded and the government gives them tax breaks and money to build their tourist trap.

>>136844600
they gave them tax breaks, they did not pay for it.

Either way they should have not been given breaks.

>>136868635
>how/why the animals didn't eat or fight
yet you ignore "how he got the animals"

i dont believe it either, but this is a dumb question.

god made them peaceful DUH

>how a species genetic diversity was maintained from just two parents
10million times this

doesnt make sense, i mean shit, look at deer, do you know how fucking fast they mutate?