Binge Drinking

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>>136827664
Can Pepe meme immoderate alcohol consumption into oblivion?

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>>136827664

im a catholic christian, have never gotten drunk in my life cause i never binge drink. must be cause im religious and a church goer and put god first in my life.

>be like me and the degeneracy will stop
>promote adverts that make NOT drinking cool

>>136828325
I sure hope he can. Theres something so sad about seeing a grown man desecrate his body ad those around him, then be happy about it the next day. Ive dropped this friend since then, and havent had more than 2 drinks in a day since. It was very powerful seeing that mess unfold.

>>136827664
In the US it would actually help to lower the drinking age. We need young people to be exposed to alcohol under parental supervision.

Teens aren't allowed to drink so they do it in secret and as a result they binge. Creates a bad habit that they carry into adulthood.

There was a nice young christian girl at a place i work who was going away to uni last fall. Every single parent and adult that was around were going on about the drinking, partying, having fun, frosh week, keggers, etc. The girl was very shy and seemed terrified when they were saying this. Did no see one person say anything to her about academics, or doing well in her program. It was all binge drinking shit. Girl looked terrified as fuck.

I used to get this drunk two or three times a week, but alone at home. It's a demon, I'm glad I escaped it. Believe me it's not any fun having to wake up and immediately become drunk again just to feel half human. Then go to work and be sneaky drunk. And hide thousands of bottles and cans from everyone. Never enjoying a decent meal. Much thanks to /ck/ I mean that unironically

>>136827664
I like to drink a fair bit, but adults who get loaded on their birthday are just big children. The same is true for anyone who drinks to excess on St Patrick's day or new years eve

>>136827664
I hate alcohol culture.

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>>136830191
Yes i know, but it seems society is encouraging this instead of stopping it. It is sad to see a man of 33 using "i was wasted" as an excuse, and getting away with it. Its pathetic, but people buy it.

>>136830492
>will have to be remind me I
W E W

>>136827664
I love drunk the fuck out whores, you can absolutely ravage their ass and they just take it like a champ and they won't have a clue who gauged their ass out when they wake up.

>>136830492
I once fired a new employee during his first week because he requested a week off for his birthday. He was about 30 years old. I took it as a red flag that he was a man-child. Grow the fuck up. There's nothing wrong with throwing a few back with the boys after work or drinking alone if you can keep it together, but don't expect me to cover your shit while you piss yourself for a week just because you managed to avoid death for 30 years. Birthday parties are for children.

>>136827664
I used to drink a lot of alcohol every day, but since I changed it to krokodil my life has improved drastically.

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>got drunk last night for my birthday
>got pretty drunk last saturday at a country concert
>got SUPER drunk last thursday because my friend left for japan for a month on friday

also i get the worst fucking hangovers that last at least half the day even after only drinking ~6 beers

>>136827664
yeah your culture is the problem, leaf

>>136831219
*6 burgerbeers

>>136831219
>only drinking ~6 beers
shit bait or shit beer
saged and reported

this is a photo from britain
binge drinking is not new here and you cannot stop it, it's ingrained in the culture at this point

>>136830917
I also crave adventure

>>136830857
im forced to take over a week off for my birthday would rather use the leave for somthing else

>>136831445
>>136831593
obviously they're 6 burgerbeers

i'm a fucking burger

we're talking 4-6% ABV

>>136831387
Pretty much this. Canadians drink way too much and blow their money on booze. Usually the first cheque of the weekend is wasted on booze. You can actually see this for yourselves. Two weekends out of the month the streets are active and the other two weekends of the month the streets are empty.

>>136827664
over here binge drinking is more of a highschool thing
but maybe it changed now that the age to buy alcohol went from 16 to 18, idk

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>>136827664
ban the poisonous jew (alcohol), just like the islam states.

white shariah now

>>136827664
Sell alcohol only one place in the city

Put the same shit in it that makes Isopropyl Alcohol or Rubbing Alcohol undrinkable.

>>136827664
serious post: strong independent women who go drinking and lose control of themselves and pass out like op's pic deserve to be raped by any passers-by.

why does everyone itt hate drinking you all sound like you've had very sheltered lives

>>136832364
Because they are pussy neckbeards, come on only a few people take /pol/ seriously like these faggots.. OP most likely was the kid at parties with his hands in his pockets walking around like an autist not talking to anyone..

>>136831219
I used to be the guy who could drink 12 beers on Saturday and wake just fine in Sunday but then I got older. Now it's 6 tops or I pay too much the next day. And that is the low alcohol shit burger beer. Two good beers can sometimes give me issues the next day. Now I have a beer at dinner and that's it unless I am with friends.

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>>136832364
>>136832615
>pussy neckbeards
>it takes a real man to be completely undisciplined and to drink to the point of losing control of your bodily functions

maybe 18 year olds should be able to buy alcohol at restaurants if accompanied by parents. would teach better drinking habits

Because our society is a crock of shit ruined by Jews and everyone wants to distract themselves from it. Our countries were taken from us before we were born.

>>136829717

Yea it's a shitty existence, I went/am dealing with a similar situation. A lot of people just know you're drunk at some point and go with it quietly, other times I've been ratted out for being drunk at work but talked my way out of it. It's a super selfish pussy problem though and alcoholics don't deserve sympathy for the most part

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>>136827664
Stop

consuming

intoxicants

>>136832615
nah i had a good stretch of binge drinking in my early 20s. When i realized it was degenerate - long before my pol days - I gave it up. I sitll like a drink or two, but dont get wasted. There are certain people who cant grow out of it though and will make any excuse to continue their abhorrent behavior

>>136827664

Alcohol has been part of western culture for over 3000 years.

Stop being a cuck

>>136832848
I thinking drinking with parents in a safe environment is a good way to avoid this issue. Learn to not over do it during regular events.

>>136832975
but binge "party" style drinking has not been.

>>136832785
>posts anime
please


also do americans actually not drink until they are 21?

>>136832364
Nah, from ages 15 to 18 I went out bingedrinking with friends every weekend and during vacation multiple times a week. We never hung out sober.
I'm 20 now and glad I stopped that shit is terrible for you. And it caused me to have a hard time socializing without drinking.

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>>136833105
>please
you must be lost, nigger

>>136833099
No it has also. See Rome.

>>136832785
>anime posting faggot manchild lecturing anyone

Kys

>>136833099
It actually has been in Northern European (non-Mediterranean) cultures

http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/articles/ar1096.htm

Comparing binge drinking to consuming a few drinks is like comparing painting your car with huffing paint.

One is using a product as a means for somethign else - like socializing or changing the color of your car

The other is using the product as an end - goal is to get fucked up.

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>>136833296
back 2 reddit you go, faggot

>>136833124
you know most people don't binge the whole time, they binge until they are somewhat drunk and then slow down
and not everyone loses total control when they're drunk only retards drink until they're paralytic and very very few people do that

>>136833144
anime is fucking gay kys

My sister in law is a drunken idiot and her family enables her. Shes wrecked 2 cars in the last 3 years and has had new cars given to her by her paarents. Shes in her 30's. She thinks shes a victim. Guess what, ahes also a mudshark

>>136833400
>4chan
>1051
This meme is old

>>136833514
>being this new

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>>136833349
>Muh ancestors destroyed their bodies and minds by consuming harmful intoxicants in massive quantities so therefore we should do the same.

>>136833659
>>136833400
>>136833144
>>136832785
back to /a/ with that gook shit faggot

>>136833514
>hey guys i'm 19 years old and i loooove to party! i've been drunk so many times i'm a pro. let me educate this anonymous cartoon porn imageboard on how to drink!
lurk moar

>>136833724
>being this new

I've been through all sorts of AA groups and such for my alcoholism, but if your faith in a higher power such as God isn't strong, it's not gonna work. I've come around to Christianity, but my faith isn't as strong as it can be. I still have lingering doubts, and I'm working on it. However, I've stopped with the AA meetings after several relapses. I really don't like the concept, AA just feels too cult like for me. I discovered something called the S.M.A.R.T. Recovery program, it's all online and free with the option of finding group meetings, but it's been by far the most effective thing for my sobriety. 4 years and counting now. The only thing I payed for was their $10 ebook via Kindle. It's based on CBT and other psychological methods.

Can't recommend it enough.

>>136833514
Most people think they are funny, outgoing, and charming when drunk. These are the lies they tell themselves. Ask someone around who isnt drunk what they think and chances are you will get adjectives like: obnoxious, loud, aggressive, staggering, idiotic.

Just like the cigarette smoker who cant imagine driving, finishing a meal or going to bed without his cigarette, or the pothead "cant realx" without weed. the binge drinker thinks he is fun to be around, clever, funny, when the reality is wuite the opposite. People who ar addicted to substances lie to themselves.

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>>136833724
>being
>this
>new

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>>136833749
>S.M.A.R.T.
>requires belief in god

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>>136833786

>>136833714
>equivocating alcoholism to Binge drinking during festivals and celebrations
>not reading the article
>being this inept at basic logic.
>Mudslime flag

"""""opinion""""" disregarded.

anyway no one answered me, do Americans actually not drink until 21 or is this just a meme?

>>136833749
Good for you anon, most people just continue on lying to themselves. The old "friend" from my OP also was beaten once and couldnt remember why (likely mouthed off to the wrong people while wasted)

>>136827664
>How do we end this degeneracy???
It's a Russian thing

>>136827664

I hate when people get black out drunk, or brag about getting black out drunk. Like, what the fuck is the point if you don't remember shit anyways? Whats the appealing of drinking so much you start puking all over the place, can't remember anything, and then feel like absolute garbage the next day? I don't get it.

Light drinking is fine though.

>>136833779
spot on
when you're sober, drunk people are fucking obnoxious
it's only fun being around them when you're drunk yourself

>>136830857
Fucking boot licking scum

>>136833714
don't be a fat, alcoholic cokehead then

>>136833952
In canada most start around 14-15 i would imagine it is the same in the USA

>>136831934
Congrats you have the drinking tolerance of a woman.

>>136827664

I'm hungover as fuck, drank 70cl of vodka too quick and puked me guts up

>>136834120
stop posting, no one likes you

>>136834019
>unemployable nigger detected

>>136833869

Actually it doesn't. I believe in God, however S.M.A.R.T. doesn't require it. It was great for me when I didn't believe in God. Basically you create a cost/benefit analysis of the pros and cons of drinking, vs your values and what you want out of life. There's other things you do and work on, but that for me was the biggest help. I made the conscious decision to quit drinking, and now God reinforces my desire to not drink anymore.

>>136833909
>Don't worry we only destroy our mind and body on "special" occasions.

Henry Ford was right alcohol and tobacco are absolutely blue pilled. Alcohol is a major evil in the world how many people die in car crashes from drinking, how many marriages are destroyed from adultery committed while drunk.

Say no to sex, drugs, and rock and roll that is a lifestyle that leads to physical and spiritual death.

>>136834171
yeah that's a lot
it used to take me 40cl of vodka to get fucked up

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I absolutely love drinking but I'm almost 27 now and my hangovers literally last 24 hours from my last drink and it's horrible.

If a woman is very drunk (by choice), and she consents to fuck you, why is that not ok? She chose to get drunk, so she should know what that entails in terms of cognitive function

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>>136834178
>being this new

>>136833749
does it work for fapping addiction? if so link?

I'm 21 and frequently binge drink and I'm told I become a huge prick when I do. Going to quit drinking altogether, but it is difficult when alcohol is the only way to get people interested in associating. This culture is shit. I wish degeneracy wasn't praised by everyone constantly.

>>136834189
Unhappy 60 hr/week worker who hasn't moved up in his job field in the past 5 years and takes his aggression out on people who seem happier than him and want to enjoy life detected

>>136827664
The truth is it's not ok at any age for any reason and it's never an excuse for any kind of behavior.

Alcohol is a horrible drug and ruins people's lives everyday, kills thousands a year, destroys families and makes you a retard.

>>136834593
>fapping addiction
no such thing

>>136830917
go back to Russia vlad.

>>136834641
>neet
opinion discarded, you are irrelevant

>implying I don't own the company
lmao tell your mom I said hi when she brings you tendies

>>136834060
for middle class people it's about that here too

if you are working class you may as well be born an alcoholic

>>136833965

Thanks man, I was your friend at one point. After I got out of the military, I was completely lost. Never hit rock bottom like AA says you have to to affect lasting change, but I believe everyone has a problem with drinking knows in the back of their mind that they do have a problem. I wish I found out about SMART while I first attempted to quit. Now I tell everyone I can about it.

i drink 2 beers when i come home from work and do house work, then i will drink another beer at dinner then later at night i will wind down with 2 glasses of a double neat whiskey

i do this everyday, i dunno if this makes me an alcoholic, i guess it does, but i never binge drink, you can't even enjoy the drink or a buzz when you do that.

>>136827664

alcohol=liquid jew

>>136827664
>How do we end this degeneracy???
Don't treat alcohol related illnesses in hospitals.

Drinking is one of the only degeneracies I am okay with, people have been doing it literally forever. Obviously there is limits as with everything, but getting absolutely shitfaced every now and again is fine as long as it is controlled and you're not running about in public breaking shit. I mean have you not seen the parties the SS threw? The only problem is the youth drinks too much, especially here. A group of 16 year olds is expected, but I am seeing 11/12 year olds smashed off their tits. Sorry but people who think drinking should end full stop are either memeing or need to get out more, I'm not myself extremely popular but even I can clearly see the only people triggered about this are faggots and pussies.

>>136834691
>being this new

>>136832364
t. chav

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It all comes down to bad parenting

>>136828569
this. america is so backwards when it comes to ANYTHING that is slightly non-puritan.

>>136834601
Be your own man faggot. You disgrace that flag.

Drinking is a staple of all European cultures, binge drinking is popular now because the previous generation never stopped or controlled themselves as they grew older.

PS middle aged men are the biggest alcoholics

>>136834265
>alcohol is evil
Whatever you say, goatfucker

>>136834593
no just give up porn. I was a big fapper until i quit that - actually fixed a few sexual issues i was having related to ED 100%. The first week is hard then afte that you are in control of yourown sexuality again. Its instant gratification vs long term satisfaction. Hope you are strong and can do it, the benefits are outstanding in hindsight. I could barely cum with a woman before i was so desensitized. Now an orgasm is an incredible explosion of ecstasy and not just a fleeting pulse of pleasure.

>>136835065
>goatfucker
slimes drink just as much as humans do

>>136834593

I don't see why it wouldn't. I'm not gonna say it's a magic pill as it requires a conscious effort to work, but yea you can probably use it for any addiction.

http://www.smartrecovery.org/

Ok so I just read the link, it actually is for any addictive behavior. Go for it anon, if you really think you have a problem, I'm rooting for you.

>>136830857
Good job, man.
Lol, he's probably sitting on his starwars beanbags with his phone and some beer ranting about how oppressive working is.

>>136834880
alcohol is the white man's drink.
white people have evolved with mutated gene to metabolize alcohol faster because of how much our ancestors drank it.

the only thing jews have to do with alcohol is ads and marketing.

>>136834835
>implying mummy brings me tendies and not your hard earned tax dollars

General question, how far away was his birthday from when he asked for the week off, don't lie now

>>136834861
whatever works anon stick to it and it will take. I used to be a heavy cig smoker and read a stupid quitting book, but never smoked again. People still laugh at me for this but who gives a fuck, you dont see me smoking anymore.

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>>136834966
pls no

>>136835261
So what do I do next, I don't want to go to any meetings to be fair. Too shy to talk about it.

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>>136835065
I don't know how you can doubt it. There is absolutely no benefit besides escaping your problems momentarily. What are the negatives?

Leads to obesity, increases cancer rick, destroys grey matter in brain, reduced cognition that can lead to fatal accidents, and a million other negative effects. Just look at fatal accidents involving fire arms and vehicles, the majority are a result of alcohol consumption.

>>136835242
>being this new

>>136834955
I dont really care about alcohol i care more about the binge drinking culture that has become prevalent in our society. Alcohol is fine, being brainwashed into having 60 drinks per weekend every week since early teens is not ok.

>>136834448
It's gets worse the older you get, by the time you are 40 the hangovers will last 2-3 days and come with a whole headfull of psychological troubles as well.

>>136827664
We need an answer. I did the college/career first nonsense, and now all of the candidates for marriage or whatever that are single are typically alcoholics. I don't date anymore. It was just too disappointing to meet a nice person who appeared to have their shit together, only to discover they were a closet "functioning" alcoholic.

That's why every proper non degenerate stops drinking and resorts to proper drugs such as Cocaine, LSD or Amphetamines instead.

>>136827664
Alcohol has been a tool of Jewish political control for hundreds of years, just stop, grow your own weed instead.

>>136835147
I don't get how you can fix ed through noporn while at the same time still fapping everday. You must of cut back on the daily faps?

>>136835271
true story, he was high on heroin riding a bike in a fucking blizzard trying to go cop more dope and he got hit by a bus and killed just about a week later. A friend of his came to the business to blame it on me and was screaming that I "ruined his life" and I couldn't help but start laughing when they told me the news.

>>136835288
k, enjoy your stagnation

>>136834265
>how many marriages are destroyed from adultery committed while drunk
>people die in car crashes from drinking

And? The cases where alcohol destroyed marriages are relatively rare.

People have the option to choose to not drive when they're drunk.

The vast majority of divorces are initiated by women because they aren't (((happy))).

>alcohol is a major evil

Alcohol and looking for methods to distill and refine alcohol for consumption have led to many different scientific innovations and the understanding of organic chemistry which is fundamental to modern medicine, fuel production, etc.. People in most cultures have used drinking as ways to socialize with others and grow together as a community. There are adverse effects to over-consumption. But, this doesn't make it evil.

>muh Henry Ford
You're taking a blue-pilled, black-and-white stance on everything while claiming to be red-pilled while using someone who has nothing to do with anything but creating an automobile manufacturing business.

>drinking till you puke

For what purpose

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>>136835456
>trying this hard

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>>136829146
pic of her now

>>136831649
>it's ingrained in the culture at this point
Drinking seems to be ingrained in most N European countries. But something has changed, people who couldn't handle their drink used to be mocked. Getting out of control is what it's all about now.

>>136835562
oh yeah i stopped fapping for like 4 months. It toally reset everything i feel like im 16 again. Dick works great and can go multiple rounds now with great orgasms. I still fap once in a while if i cant get laid, usually once every week or two during those periods. Once you beat it you actually dont get compelled to masturbate as often, sometimes go a few days without even thinking about it.

>>136835688
Wanna do some Krocidil kids?

Binge drinking is degenerate at any age. At what point is it fun to drink till you're puking and can't stand up?

Whacking back a 6 pack on a Friday night every once in a while with your friends after a hard work week is fine, get drunk but not piss drunk and puking. Having a beer or two during the week isn't so bad either. Regularly polishing off a 6 pack + during the week and on the weekend is degenerate AF though. Drinking more than 2 beers in a sitting multiple times per week all the time, you may have a problem and you're probably fat and feel like shit all the time.

>>136834649
This pretty much.

>>136835735
this exactly. Having wine with dinner or havign a few brandies and a cigar by the fire are white culture. Drinking 24 beer and puking in an uber are not my culture.

>>136835641
He said to puke, you fucking flagrant retard.

>>136835773
ok, I'll give a try. I'll start with a week, then month and work my way up.

>>136834691
Yes there is. I know you want to believe there isn't, so that you can validate your pathetic lifestyle, but it has been proven to exist. Don't be a stupid faggot that denies common knowledge to suit your own retarded beliefs

>>136827664
>"Then in the 2000s things changed"
>because you went to school in the 2000s
nothing has changed. it's all the same as it has ever been. college, like school itself, is a day camp and recreational vacation for infantalized retards who can't think for themselves.

>>136827664
>Then in the 2000s it seemed the main purpose of going to college or uni became the drinking and partying, and the academics became secondary. Fast forward to current year. Every weekend the streets fill with binge drinkers, many well into their 30s 40s and 50s and still carrying on like a teenager.

You've sort of answered yourself. The teenagers and college kids of today don't binge drink as much as the kids back in the 90's and 2000's did, those drinkers have just been getting older and older, pushing the 30-40 range now if they were in teens or early 20's back then.

>>136835959
>Brandy
Confirmed not white. Cognacs are far better.

>>136835408

Meetings are optional. Some people like going to them, but I personally hated going to them. Never did any of the online meeting options either. Just click around on the website, you can find everything you need for free, the ebook just puts everything all the resources into one nice easy guide.

>>136835655
>being this new

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i like to get 100% shitfaced with the Mrs and stay in play drinking games then have funny/kinky sex

pic not related

>>136835972
Its tough at first - you will be horny as fuck. But get through it and you will enjoy the spoils of victory. The frist time i fucked after 4 months of no fap no porn and not being laid i honeslty had to collapse on the bed for a solid minute after cumming it was so good.

You will also notice the benefits of keeping your test in your body. You will be more confident and outgoing naturally, will perform better in the gym, etc. This effect only lasts a few days but is noticable.

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>>136836269
>trying this hard

>>136835574
It happens all the time, the man is alone with non mahram women and becomes intoxicated and commits fornication, or even worse a man allows his wife to go clubbing alone with her friends and she commits fornication. Even the bachelor party for the wedding people get drunk and commit fornication right before they get married.

Nothing wrong with using alcohol for medical, industrial, or mechanical processes. But obviously drinking alcohol for some notion of "enjoyment" is clearly wrong.

On Henry Ford you will find that not just him but other people who made beneficial advances to society spook against the consummation of alcohol like Thomas Edison, Buzz Aldrin, Bruce Lee, and many successful business leaders like Donald Trump, Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs, etc...

>>136836335
>being this new

>>136836114
Me not white? Go back to sicily you grappa drinking sand nigger.

Whiskey is the real white mans liquor.

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>>136836589
>trying this hard

>>136829146
The worst thing is that you know she's gonna be pushed into degeneracy by other students because it's fashionable to shit on Christians. No one would dare push a Muslim to drink, though

>>136836670
>being this new

>>136832261
Fucking savage

>>136835972
I've been doing it for a while now. On the first few days you'll think 'I could just fap now and start again, because i've only just started', but you've got to push through that, then it is actually pretty easy

>>136836305
My hornyness is always the worst in the morning from waking up, failed so many times because of it.

>>136833952
No. Most start in their late teens and college. You can buy your own at 21

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>>136836748
>trying this hard
i see you're stuck in a loop from being btfo by me. cya never, faggot. winning against you newfags is too easy

>>136834601
Learn to nurse your beer or scotch faggot. Set hard boundaries like 2 beer limit. Learn to drink socially

>>136836538
>just regurgitating arabic propaganda
>muh Hollywood movie stereotypes

Drinking alcohol for enjoyment isn't wrong. It's not obvious that it's wrong at all. You have to prove it. You cannot use Islamic or other religious doctrine, or risks associated with alcoholism. You can't use many of the risks associated with drinking too much since many of these can instead be argued that drinking less (rather than going to the extreme of not drinking)--no unique conclusions. "It's obvious" is not an argument. Your turn. Go.

>>136837090
>being this new

>>136827664
>How do we end this degeneracy???

Exterminating Brits.

>>136837185
Okay.

Number one it has no benefit. Why would you advocate for something that has no clear benefit? There have been a few studies which indicate mild consumption might have minor benefits but these are not conclusive. Why would someone look to some perhaps minor benefits when there are clear extremely negative effects.

Two. Mild consumption of alcohol undoubtedly is the first step to alcoholism. No one wakes up one day and says "Oh I'm going to go rob a bank today." First they steal something small from a store, then they move up to pick pocketing, then armed robbery, and then finally robbing stores until they may reach the point that they rob banks. The same with intoxicants, someone starts with just a beer here and there, then maybe some wine, and the next thing you know they are a hobo drinking mouth wash. Why would you risk allowing people who are weak willed or genetically predisposed to addiction, why would you advocate leaving the door open to allow them to hurt themselves and make the society worse?

>>136837883
>Two. Mild consumption of alcohol undoubtedly is the first step to alcoholism
wrong

>>136838072
So your saying someone wakes up an alcoholic without first having tried alcohol and consumed it in moderate portions? How does someone become an alcoholic if they never have consumed it?

>>136838299
mostly by binge drinking

>>136836852
Re direct that energy anon. Like i said its hard at first but once you have it beat you will wonder what took you so long.

I also swear up and down that i am naturally more attractive to women now. I dont know if they can smell it or what but it seems im getting a lot more looks and lusty glances with my balls full than i did when i was a jerkoff.

>>136837883
>Why would you advocate for something that has no clear benefit

You don't understand what the word "advocate" means. I'm not advocating for alcohol. I'm arguing against your moral hysteria--that you don't have any foundation to your conclusions.

The lack of a clear benefit is not an argument against something

>Why would someone look to some perhaps minor benefits when there are clear extremely negative effects.

Extremely negative effects come only with extreme use

Again, your argument falls into one of the types of arguments you agreed not to make (the premises have no unique conclusion).

>Mild consumption of alcohol undoubtedly is the first step to alcoholism

No it's not. Either you're an alcoholic and can't control your drinking habits when you start, or you're not. The vast majority of people can control themselves enough to quit drinking at some point.

There is no reason to use your analogy either, or consider it reasonable, since there is no reason to assume that one behavior leads to the other, or the existence of a certain prior behavior is necessitated by the existence of the current behavior. Many murders aren't committed by people who have assault records and most people with assault records don't commit murders.

Your argument is slippery slope, which is a fallacy.

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>>136838385
Which is wrong as well. You guys are making this to complicated.

No access to alcohol and criminalization of drinking= minuscule levels of alcoholism and the negative effects of alcohol on the society.

Easy access to alcohol and encouragement to drink alcohol by the government and corporations in society= lots of alcoholism and lots of injuries, negative health effects, and deaths associated with alcohol consumption.

I had a friend that had her photo taken when she was drunk, she was sitting on the trying to eat a kebab and her pants were showing. Somehow this became a stock image and was used every time the daily mail or whoever did an article on female binge drinking. it was hilarious.

>>136838299
There are many people with addictive personalities and many people's bodies react differently to various chemical agents due to many different physiological factors.

This is observed with many different chemicals.

>>136839028
Post pls

>>136839022
>reddit flag
post discarded

>>136839028
post pic

>>136829146
I hope she got absolutely blasted the first night and got pumped by proto-chad.

>>136839022
Is this per year? Per month?

>>136827664
Give kids real hobbies.

>>136839182
I'm hoping she does actually whore it up a little so i can fuck her. Shes pretty cute and would need to be a few degrees higher on the whore o meter before i could realistically fuck her, as a 35 yo man.

>>136827664
You guys sound pathetic and act like people are forced to drink and like its the worst thing ever. There's plenty of people at my uni who never drink but then always complain about having no friends and nothing to do. What's wrong with getting drunk every now and then? What's wrong with living your 4 years probably best time of your life getting sloshed with your friends and talking to girls at the bars? As long as no one is driving drunk what's wrong with getting drunk? You guys sound like if you drink a few beers you pass out on the sidewalk and all hell breaks loose. Honestly you guys sound like the kids who didn't get into the parties and hate alcohol just because you aren't a part of it and call the cops even when it doesn't concern you. You're a bunch of vaginas who I would not want to be friends with

>>136839284
>UN education

>>136827664
Eugenics. How do we accelerate it?

>>136833749
Good on you brother. SMART is a great program. Just find one that works for you. AA/NA work great with some people but definitely not everyone.
1 Peter 5:8-9
>Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world

Keep up the holy fight

>>136839022
Yes. We can of course see that the Middle East is a fucking haven because of their minimal alcohol consumption.

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>>136839022
>you guys are making this to complicated
>posts map where the countries that have least alcohol use are also the lowest IQ countries.

Actually, this is a very complicated subject

When a variety of factors are needed to be considered in the case of alcohol use leads to a very complex subject.

You want it to be simplified so that you can just make a black-and-white conclusion (even though none exists).

Coincidentally the countries with the most social/health problems (Islamic countries) have the lowest alcohol consumption. Something doesn't add up in your """"conclusion""""

This is the only thing I'm going to say. I come from a family of NYC/New England Irish functional alcoholics and I would debate the validity of "functional" part.
That being said it was incredibly offensive and highly looked down upon to not hold ones liquor. Being publicly drunk especially in front of family or in family parties and social events was extremely bad taste and definitely not something to aspire to.

So in my argument, binge drinking certainly did happen but being a drunken asshole was never acceptable until recently.

I say this as I watch the clock till 5:00pm so I can make a Moscow mule.

>>136839567
He's right to ask. Nothing is stated about this.

>>136839284
Here is the article. It is referring to average alcohol consumption per person.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/these-are-the-worlds-drunkest-countries-9357860.html

And here is an interesting quote.

"And it reveals that the harmful use of alcohol causes 3.3 million deaths a year worldwide."

Alcohol causes more deaths then even worse drugs like heroin, meth, crack, etc because it is so wildly available. Imagine how many people would be saved if this useless harmful drug was banned. Other things may cause many deaths like vehicles (most deaths being cause by alcohol related crashes) and firearms (most deaths associated with alcohol related negligent discharges) but cars and guns actually have a valid use and benefit to society unlike alcohol.

>>136839567
>thinking meme flags mean things
Nice work, faggot. Continue to post your bullshit data

Alcohol lowers your speaking ability, makes you quick to snap off and attack for no reason, you will proudly fuck any fat bitch, and makes you dumb as shit.
Alcohol turns you into a literal nigger.
>literal
>nigger

>>136839600
exterminate muslims

>>136839567
so what is it?

>>136839843
>reddit flag
swede, poo, cuckman, or leaf?

>>136839888
That's manageable in a society composed of whites. Nowadays of course getting drunk just leaves you open to muggings, being attacked and any women sexually harassed and raped.

>>136839792
Ya like a fuckin ban would do anything. Have you ever heard of the prohibition? It made people make moonshine and underground bars. You can't stop it

>>136839612
Well we are speaking about the negative effects of alcohol consumption, those negative effects being minimal in countries that forbid alcohol consumption.

Of course Islamic countries have major issues, that are not related to this particular topic. Islamic civilization and countries are in a natural period of decline, civilizations go through periods of birth, growth, decay, and death. It's kind of like how Christian Europe had high rates of disease and plague because they did not wash themselves regularly like Muslims did. This is Oswald Spengler 101.

>>136834448
>>136835475
I have found that drinking lots of water and waiting until you are at least half sobber before going to bed helps a lot. Also, don't oversleep, wake up normally and drink lots of water.

>>136827664
>How old is too old to be shit faced and making an ass of yourself?
I'd say anyone above 22 is a disgrace. It is not about how much one drinks but how he behaves when he does.
I think that drinking as a way to escape from sadness is what is causing the problems.

>>136839956
Bong

>>136840305
should i add ukuck to the list of countries hiding their location with the reddit flags?

>>136839122
>>136839175
I dont have it, and this was 10 years ago.

Its not hot, and shes facing away from the camera.

>>136839888
I bet you have no friends faggot. It's called drinking and not blacking out like holy shit have you ever drank before? You sound like teachers describing marijuana in class and how it will kill you if you try it who have clearly never tried the drug

I agree that drinking is degenerate... However it's a huge part of social life. So many people won't socialize unless they are drunk, and if you drink to socialize you learn to only socialize while drunk. Not saying it's not possible to socialize and not drink but it's hard as fuck, most socializing seems dumb if you're sober.

>>136840438
>reddit flag
swede, poo, cuckman, or leaf?

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lower drinking age to build good habits. decriminalize cannabis and industrial hemp

>>136840191
We can't entirely stop it but we can minimize it. That's a ridiculous statement.

>We shouldn't try to stop murderers because it will always happen and some people will get away with it.

>We shouldn't criminalize homosexuality because some people will get away with it.

>We shouldn't punish thief's because some will still get away with it.

The idea is to reduce these criminal practices as much as possible, of course we can't completely eradicate them

>>136831219
Did you really have to celebrate your friend's departure when he's only leaving for one month ? For God's sake.

>>136839733
>>136839843
>>136839941
It's per year, of course. Do you seriously consider average consumption of between 7.5 and 12.5 liters of pure alcohol (looking at western Europe and the US here) per capita per month is even in accordance with reality? Do you even drink?

>>136840733
>reddit flag
swede, poo, cuckman, or leaf?

>>136827664
Oh fuck off that's a part of my culture

You know, I honestly don't care if someone gets absolutely shitfaced and wakes up in their own vomit. It's the fact that next week they do the same thing that confuses me.

It's similar with women who have sex with some stranger when drunk and later regret this. Sure, it can happen to anybody. But if it happens to you more than once? You should change your lifestyle.

>>136840281
We now have high rates of disease again: muslims.

>>136840304
> wake up normally
So get about 4 hours of sleep? Because you dont start drinking at 3pm and end at 11. As for the age i'd say above 25, at that point you should be out of university and beyond junior roles in your career, in a stable relationship and planning for marriage and kids.

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>>136827664
>Moral Superiority: The Post
Man has an unalienable right to drink a fucking beer if he so chooses to. This dillema is already being solved by the free market, transportation services are stepping up their game.

Still, I admit that there is a problem with college binge drinking. Having drunk people everywhere at all times isn't good for business. I think the problem here is very much so in the cultural/religious sphere, but I'm not sure if the answer will be in the same sphere. Perhaps businesses just need to step up transportation?

>>136827664
I have not touched any alcohol in six years because it's the poison of Babylon from the synagogue of dirty satan.

>>136841050
Alcoholism is not a real problem unless you're poor fuckface, and poor people need alcohol to deal with their shitty lives, so fuck off

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>>136839182
>>136841191
Wow Muslims are really your problem, not the fact that you are degenerate animals.

>Pic related the average British "man".

>Oh no those evil Muslims are going to try and stop us from getting drunk and committing sodomy, I'm not going to be able to euthanize my mother or abort my child when Islam takes over. t. average brit

I gotta go guys prayer is drawing near. Salam.

>>136841352
>So get about 4 hours of sleep?
Yes, you wake up drink water, eat breakfast and if you need to sleep more do it in the afternoon. The major problems of hangover happen because your body has no way to get rid of alcohol without water.

>>136840733
>drinking alcohol is a criminal practice?
How often do you socialize? You are dumb as shit every social event I can think of (I.e. Family reunions, holidays, celebrations, get togethers, vacations,..) all having some sort of drinking involved. Ya murder has a law against it but to even think that banning alcohol is even a consideration you gotta be fuckin joking me.

>>136841750
Your liver cannot process alcohol particularly quickly, you'll have a hangover regardless of water if you drink any moderate amount.

>>136841444
Its not college binge drinking i have a problem with. Its people in their 30s and 40s who still want to carry on and use the same excuses for their behavior that college kids use. Grow up.

>>136841678
I dont even drink. However muslims are archetypal animals, they drink here too dont worry. Muslims are incomparably stupid, aggressive and sexually degenerate - every waking moment their heads are filled with rape and child rape.

So the largest problem for brits on a night out is the hordes of ugly arabs patrolling the street looking for a girl drunk enough that they can feasibly abduct her. No sober girl would of course go near them.

That's not even getting into the real vices of islam: anti-intellectualism, authoritarianism, insecurity and degeneracy.

>>136841929
I can't think of many people who have this problem and are still employed or even have an effect on my life in any way (minus the homeless who have PTSD and get biligerent every night under the bridge next to my apt. But that's a different story)

>>136840304

>Don't oversleep

This is a big fucking one I just started doing recently.

If I'm drunk and go to bed at 2am and wake up at 8 and drink water I'll be fine.

If I sleep in till 11 I'll be hungover as shit.

>>136827664
>THIS POST IS CLEARLY NOT FOR THE BOYS
Have you ever heard of cracking a cold one?

>>136842133
Here in the toronto area its a widespread culture. There are 1 block neighborhoods filled all weekend with degenerate 30+ drinkers. Hundreds of bars and clubs. Years ago it was like 25 and under but all thos epeople never grew up. Every time i get invited to some event down there it makes me shake my head to see what these people are doing. Its like a whole city and culture of manchildren. They all have jobs, and being honest most are using coke as well. Go into any washroom in toronto on a friday night, it is like being in vegas, you will hear the sniffing. Its getting way out of hand and no one says a word about it.

>>136842692
*12

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>>136835147
what exactly entails a fapping addiction? like how many times do you do it per day?

>>136842779
at least once a day but usually 2-3 times. Sometimes a half dozen times. Point is clear once you stop - you are wasting your sexuality on instant gratification, and sex/orgasm becomes much better afterwards. ED issues go away. Its jsut not healthy to be so depleted of testosterone all the time. Jerking off is not that bad, but is like gambling. Going to the casino once in a while is fine, gambling compulsively and regularly is a problem

>>136840362
If you are really that dedicated to being a massive faggot, then yes, you should

>>136827664
>drinking in moderation is fine

you're even more of a degenerate fucktard than the wino in your story

>>136842779
You ever see those studies saying european sperm counts are 50% of what they were in the 1960s????? Since legal and available porn only started in the 1980s this could be a huge factor. How can you have a large sperm count when youre jerking off multiple times a day, and society is basically encouraging you to watch porn and be a jerkoff.

>>136840832
No set of data should ever rely on 'it's x, of course'. Plus it doesn't say 'pure alcohol', it doesn't even say that it is alcohol at all.

>>136843155
Did i mention the wino in my story is a police officer? Yet im a degen for havign one or two drinks responsibly??

Go funnel a few rye and arab semen cocktails sven, justify your degenereate binging elsewhere.

>>136836114
>cognac
>white

>>136827664
Pull the truck around and fuck her drunkass all night.

>>136843238
I did a study on this once, it's been reducing since the 40s. Many studies documenting sperm counts insist on no masturbation for ~8 days beforehand.

>>136827664
I binge drink water and non-carbonated non-alcoholic juice.

I can understand the public drunkards causing problems but you can fuck right off when it comes to what I do at home.

>>136843646
well 8 days off or not it cant be good to have your reservoir of sperm constantly depleted. Chances are it will take longer than that to right the ship.

Another benefit of no fap is that you rdick looks bigger. Not actually but your flacid state becomes more like a semi, and doesnt shrink as much in the cold. Was another benefit i forgot to mention. Your dick at resting stays bigger. and your balls stay fuller all the time and dont shrivel as easily.

>>136832364
What do you mean by drinking?

>>136843238
I agree with this plus Europeans are big into smoking which also lowers sperm count

>>136843853
I dont have a problem with you doign whatever you want in your home, libertarian larper, I clearly have a problem with the public culture of binge drinking. Public

>It used to be that college kids got up to a few shenanigans. Then in the 2000s it seemed the main purpose of going to college or uni became the drinking and partying

Yeah, no. College has been a "go to class during the week, get completely tanked on Friday and Saturday night" environment for at least forty years now.

My father had told me stories of University of Florida in the 80's that would make rock stars blush. He always talks about how my generation is unlucky because everyone has camera phones now.

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>>136828569
>>136834982
By the age of 21-22 I slowed down and stopped drinking, because of my Masters degree and entering into real-life workforce.

It was a wild ride from 15-21 years, can't deny.

>>136843290
Yes you're right, and might I add to that, the chart is seen on a computer screen and is not presented as a physical copy in an official WHO report.

Get real, faggot.

>>136827664
Long standing part of Euro culture, stop being a pussy

>>136844056
It's a slippery slope if not done correctly nanny state LARPer. We can see socially oriented laws that many a fascist here would love done by liberal democracies.

>>136843959
I imagine it's down a few things - the obvious being xeno-oestrogens, but then also oestrogenic foods, less exercise and muscle, more porn and you know probably even top down effects of society pushing more effeminate mindsets in turn reducing bodily testosterone.

>>136844219
Problem is here in canada we have to pay for drug and alcohol rehab programs, the opiod overdose drug is free. We end up havign to pay for your poor life decisions. You want to drink yourself to death and idiocy at home, fine go ahead. But when your liver blows and i have to pay for it thats when i get pissed.

>>136827664
I find it customary if you find a woman passed out on the curb like that (your pic related), you should urinate on her. If there is enough privacy then should definitely fap on her, maybe get a couple stink fingers while your at it. It teaches a lesson.
And OP, stop being a faggot. I go get wasted with friends sometimes, 1 to 2 times a month, and titties are out and I'm throwing some D. And I'm 40+. Live a little you fucking faggot. Getting old doesn't mean you don't have fun any more. Maybe your gay parents were like that, but I don't want to be like your faggot pansy family.

>>136844120
> 15
Alcohol is far more dangerous when you start young as opposed to almost anything you do with it later in life.Your best course now really is just killing yourself.

>>136844120
>tfw had such a wild ride 14-18 didn't even feel like partying in study years

Probably the weirdest feel tbqh

>>136844300
Cant ignore the mengeleian hormone changes that brith control offers either. Saw an articel recently saying that 20% of fish in north america have become hermaphrodites due to BC runoff in the ground water. That has to effect humans as well.

>>136844418
manchild.

You only think its fun if you were able to see yourself you would be ashamed.

>>136844391
I can understand that, but if you're taxed for healthcare, as a drinker would they not be entitled to "cash out" due to them paying for healthcare to begin with? There's no point in having a public option like yours if people who pay into it are prevented from using it.

>>136844123
>it isn't my fault that I don't know how to screenshot or do basic edits
If you want to get your point across, make sure you don't look like a nigger when posting it. This is basic stuff.

>>136843376
>havign one or two drinks responsibly??
keep deluding yourself you fucking degenerate sinful retard

>>136844648
I heard on the radio the other day that nalaoxone is free in ontario, and encouraged anyone with a helath card to go get a couple tubes in case your neighbor overdoses so you have some on hand. Literally. This was the ontario minister of health speaking. I'm with you man im so tired of paying for shit so other people can live consequence free.

>>136844536
That would come under xeno-oestrogens and it will definitely have an effect, cant wait for the male pill to come around and also be rife in the water supply.

>>136844648
most drinkers are unemployed or uderemployed "seasonal" workers. They work for 4 months then collect benefits the other 8

>>136844633
Fuck off, I run a business, have employees, have more than 2 children, pay for more than one household, etc. If I wanna buy a VIP in vegas night club and bring a bunch of strippers out to drink, do cocaine, and have group sex, I fucking can. You have fun at home, boring ass motherfucker. Just wait until your daughter is 18, I'm gonna fuck her.

>>136844858
Sadly, the male pill will likely also be an estrogenic sperm killer, further compounding the problem

>>136844391
Ya cracking a few beers with the boys on a Sunday is going to put me in rehab and kill myself off from liver damage. I think you're referring to the poor degenerate class that has this problem which is very small compared to how many people actually consume alcohol. You sound like the kid no one wants to hang out with

>>136844836
>>136844938
If there's going to be a public option like private health insurance you'd have to have variable premiums in certain cases. A solution would be alcohol and tobacco taxes which pay for the healthcare system, so smokers and heavy drinkers in a way pay for the drain they cause on a public option system. That's the only way I can see it working if you're forcibly taxed for healthcare without creating some Orwellian medical system where you're forced to get bloodwork or something done to detect heavy alcohol use every year.

>>136827664
My head doorman and I both agree it's becoming a form of escapism. Kids leave high school and don't want to grow up and deal with the realities and responsibilities of being an adult.

It's becoming a crutch. They are weak minded, have no drive or discipline, and just want to escape reality and make excuses for poor behavior.

>>136844955
lol got a few baby mommas? That sounds non degen. Good for you at least your fellow countrymen dont have to pay for your stomach pump and heart attack treatment like we do. Youre just an old man wannabe that still thiks hes cool

>>136844429
>you must become degenerate weekend alcoholic for the rest of your life, instead of getting it out of your system in 4-6 years at the start of adulthood.

t. liquid jew

>>136845089
Yes we have those taxes too, unfortunately they dont actually pay for the health care they just go into general revenue with everything else, to be mismanaged.

>>136845068
I never said that having a few beers was bad, asshole, i said the CULTURE OF COLLEGIATE STYLE BINGE DRINKING IS

Reading comprehension.Its a skill

>>136830709
Get gassed, degenerate filth

When I was a cop I arrested people for drunk and disorderlies more than anything else
Binge drinking costs a lot for the police and ambulance services here. One ambulance is permanently parked in our city centre ever weekend night. What a waste

>>136844056
Binge drinking culture? You mean like at the bars and stuff? How about you don't go to the bars then if you don't want to see people consume alcohol. Idk how this effects you

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>>136833874

>>136843105
ukuck added

>>136827664
>How do we end this degeneracy???
By making it only legal to drink at home.

Get drunk in private and stop vomiting and shitting on the streets.

>>136845149
Nope, only one "baby mama". Was my wife. Got sick of her shit bitching about me working all the time and left her eventually.

>>136845349
You literally never mentioned "culture or binge drinking" in your post.

Communication. It's a skill

>>136827664
Alcohol is needed to cope with the harsh realities of life

>>136844694
pleaso do not call me a nigger

thank you

>>136845631
Kek'd hard
So bars wouldn't exist? Just house parties and bull shit? Why the fuck would anyone go downtown. How many ppl actually throw up in the streets. It's pretty rare unless you live right downtown in a city and which of course idk why you fuckin live there if you don't drink or do anything

>>136832364
Did you not see that Shia lebouf thing? Pol is full of half caste children.

>>136834154
*a small woman

>>136827664
I think it's a part of the spoilt lifestyle people have these days. If they want fake happiness then they will have it 24/7 and not care about ruining their social lives...or liver.

>>136846202
This. Also the anonymonity attracts people who are antisocial which most of them don't drink themselves, therefore, hate everyone else that has fun and does

>>136832005
Still is. People from 18-22 still get drunk, but not bingelike. Most people ashaming our culture are the foreign students who get shitfaced at every occasion

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>>136832615
>OP most likely was the kid at parties with his hands in his pockets walking around like an autist not talking to anyone..

>>136834978
This my parents make me want to drink myself to death since i stopped contact with them abiut 4 yrs ago ive stopped doing halucinogens ive stopped drinking ive stopped smoking pot ive stopped watching porn and stopped playing vidya

>>136846454
Obviously you have no social life. The most social people I know drink and aren't ruining their liver because they aren't blacking out

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>>136833724

>>136846532
My parents take down two bottles of wine each and every night and when I visit I help them take it down

>>136833874
>>136845548
savage

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>>136846681
Chill man, I was talking strictly about those who binge drink as described in OP

>>136834448
pedialyte my man.

>>136846949
Fair enough

>>136827664
I heard somewhere that people drink to fill an emptiness within themselves

>>136847226
Their stomach anon. They drink to fill their stomach.

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>>136845209
*forgot the pic

>>136847289
Lol

>>136847446
didn't spill his beer either, nice job mate

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The Distilled Jew must be banned.

>>136831219
Before you go to bed after a night of drinking chuck atleast 0.50 Liter water or as much as you can, and you will have no hangover or very minor stuff.
>Water is literally the only reason you have hangovers

>>136832924
No. I enjoy getting intoxicated. Eat shit.

I swear half this board is like a month away from going full blown Sharia. How did freedom become bad among right wingers?

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>>136848577
>reddit flag
ukuck, poo, swede, cuckman, or leaf?

Pretty sure every country has a huge drinking culture nowadays, welcome to 2017. Even Muslims traveling to other countries are getting caught drinking.

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>>136827664
>I'm in love with a girl
>get completely drunk with her
>covered with her puke
>she want me to sleep with her
>sleep with her next to the bed of my best friend
>I fuck her with no condom

mfw my best friends bring the coffee while I kiss her in the morning.

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>>136834978
MFW even the first black president have chimp out nigger daughters

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Never touched alcohol till I turned 22. I'm 25. Once or twice a week I drink 2 bottles of dark red wine and play the Witcher 3 watch classic movies. (star wars, godfather, Royal Tenenbaums ect.) or read. Wouldn't trade my drunk feels for anything.

>>136849380
alcohol is god tier if you want to fuck anything

>>136827664
I binge drink every weekend and i'm fi... Never mind.

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>>136840733
>And around and around it goes.

>>136848868
Yeah i saw a bunch of dubai fucks wasted in the wynne in vegas, Dealer was muslim and after they left i asked about that. She said they weresnt supposed to drink, were being haram, wives would divorce them and they would be charged if found out back home.

>>136840681
this guy gets it