North Korea will win the war

Also listen to this to get pumped for the imminent North Korean victory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZiVWXjsaJg

>>136810982
China will not directly support NK, they will just send equipment and volunteer air divisions

>>136811344
And they might embargo the USA and halt all trade with them, similar to what the USA did to Germany in WW2

can Kim NUKE israel plz?

>>136809797

If they did, America would take a huge hit in it's empire. Not bad too. At least the sea of your degeneracy promotion would cease once and for all.

>>136811452

>He thinks the USA will tolerate an "embargo"
Lol

>>136812461
What choice will they have? if the USA did not tolerate it China would simply join the war with North Korea and turn the USA into a radioactive wasteland

>>136810982
>1 nuke detonated 300 miles above the USA will create an EMP frying all microwave ovens. Amerilards starve to death within 72 hrs.

-GAME OVER-

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>>136811282
>Not listening to their official Nuclear War song
Kys and save the Norks the trouble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcFcjUtJ8zU

I don't think you realize the moment a NK nuke explodes in the US of A the entirely of NK will be razed so hard that it will be entirely uninhabitable for several hundred years. Everyone in NK will die. Dont be stupid

>>136813085
>Implying the North Koreans care if they get nuked into oblivion

The number 1 goal of North Korea is to nuke the USA, even if that means they also die

>>136813085
This

You think this is a fucking game lil' Kim?

>>136813085
This, lol.
The second nk does anything even resembling and offensive attack is the moment it's bombed back to the stone age.

>>136810982
Possible I guess.

Also i HIGHLY doubt the USA will nuke a city like Pyongyang with millions of civilians.
The majority of the USA would chimp out over something like that, and the USA becomes even more divided

As much as I want habbening, nothing will happen. NKorea will get gibs from America and calm down for some time. Like always

>>136813216
The whole purpose of little Kim is to stay in power.

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>>136813397
You know I think someone dated w us to do that before a while ago

>>136813473
He wants to destroy the USA even more than his need for power, if he really wanted to remain in power he wouldn't be building nukes and threatening to attack Guam.

>>136810982
>implying most power grids and military bases are not shielded from interference enough to stop the effects of an indirect emp blast.

>>136813397
If they nuked a big US city then nothing would matter at that point. We'd nuke the fuck out of them and anyone who tried to stop us

However most likely we will just fuck all there shit up with small tactical nukes or conventional arms the moment they try to do that

>>136813216
>If we get destroyed, we win
I knew all special flag posters were Canadian.
Thank you for proving my theory correct.

>>136813735
*Citation needed

>>136813442
we should fuck them now rather than later so then the threat is wiped out

>>136810982
>1 nuke detonated 300 miles above the USA will create an EMP blast and wipe out all electronics, especially effective if used on the East coast.
Implying his nukes will even get this far. They will be shot down before they can even come close.

>USA will need months to bring enough equipment and troops near North Korea to launch an effective ground invasion.
You do know that the USA already has a fuckton of military presence near NK, don't you?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/09/what-is-the-us-militarys-presence-in-south-east-asia

>Within 5 minutes of war 20,000 artillery pieces will rain down hell on South Korea destroying all infrastructure making a ground invasion extremely difficult.
Do you know how shitty NK's artillery is? I bet half of those 20K artillery pieces won't even fire.

>North Korea has the 4th largest army in the world, all men in North Korea have had some kind of military training.
One word: drones.

>THAAD is still not completely set up meaning North Korean ICBMs will not be shot down
It might not be completely set up yet, but a large part of it is already set up. So BK's ICBM's will definitely be shot down, just not all of them.

>China does not want NATO on its border meaning China will support North Korea, it may enter the war or simply send equipment to North Korea.
Implying China would side with North Korea. Do you not realize that is America's economy collapses, China's economy collapses at the same time? China will not destroy their own country for North Korea.

>This is why Trump and every other president has been too afraid to attack North Korea, reminder the USA were unable to defeat North Korea in the Korean war and literally begged North Korea for a truce.
Not really. they just wanted to avert nuclear war. However, with the recent provocations from NK, USA really has no choice anymore. It's either act now or act when it's too late.

>>136813913
Let's archive that
https://archive.is/c0tVd

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This fucking thread makes me sick. North Korea can't fucking touch us. If they even manage to get a miss launched towards the US, that shit will get shot down instantly. So many cucks in this thread, remember WE are number 1. WE own the world. USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

>>136813913
Thx based netherbro

>>136813844
NKorea artillery will wipe out Seoul. You do realize you can't intercept artillery? No one will let millions innocent civilians die. So nothing will happen.

if north korea achieves what op says, it will be because the western elites let the norks succeed. which is not impossible that they planned this in a way to make the us lose

>>136810982
>4th largest army in the world
>Not enough ammunition for training
Yeah, I shudder to think what a few million starved peasants with 3 shot each who have never fired a gun before will do
They'll probably try to eat the bullets.

>>136810982

>1 nuke detonated 300 miles above the USA will create an EMP blast and wipe out all electronics, especially effective if used on the East coast.

how so?

>USA will need months to bring enough equipment and troops near North Korea to launch an effective ground invasion.

In case of war, don't you think that U.S main role will be air / naval support?

>North Korea has the 4th largest army in the world, all men in North Korea have had some kind of military training.

Yes this is true, but their equipment is old.. What about supplies? Things like ammo and food? China will probably will not supply N.K so they could not last in a war of attrition

>China does not want NATO on its border meaning China will support North Korea, it may enter the war or simply send equipment to North Korea.

To me it seems that China is fed up with N.K.. why would China risk war with U.S and Japan because of some fucking fat gook in pjong-jang?

>>136813913
>Implying his nukes will even get this far. They will be shot down before they can even come close.
Implying the outdated 1950s anti-ICBM systems are able to actually intercept a modern ICBM

>You do know that the USA already has a fuckton of military presence near NK, don't you?
Enough to destroy the 4th biggest army in the world, launch a ground invasion AND control the areas it would capture? doubt it.

>Do you know how shitty NK's artillery is? I bet half of those 20K artillery pieces won't even fire.
*Citation needed

>One word: drones.
One word: SAMs

>It might not be completely set up yet, but a large part of it is already set up. So BK's ICBM's will definitely be shot down, just not all of them.
Did it shoot down the recent ICBMs tested? nope

>Implying China would side with North Korea. Do you not realize that is America's economy collapses, China's economy collapses at the same time? China will not destroy their own country for North Korea.
China has already said it supports the North Korean regime and has given them plenty of equipment in the past and have good relations, China already said it wont accept NATO on its borders

>>136813913

this

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>>136810982
>Implying fat boy stands a fucking chance
Nigger please. The nork military is using the same shit Saddam had and you think they've got a snowball's chance in hell against America? Unless China intervenes this is over before it begins, norks are gonna get fuckin' destroyed and if they have the balls to so much as send a fuel truck toward an icbm launchpad we'll glass their entire shithole rat's nest and dare the world to object

We have nukes in SK and Japan, not to mention our subs off the coast.

We don't even need to use them. All we need to do is bait them to fire 1 nuke and then we, the South Koreans, and Japanese can have fun with our toys.

We'll use everything short of a nuke. MOABs, etc. We'll come out of it the rational side because we never had to fire a nuke. Russia and China will condemn NK and praise US for not retaliating with nuclear hellfire. This way China won't have to get involved because NK is made out to be the bad guy.

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>>136814359
>north korean
>modern

>>136810982
32% "White" America
or
100% East-Asian honorary Aryans

Who should I cheer on?

>>136814359
What makes you think our missile defense systems are from the 50s?

Also, it's [citation needed] you fucking newfag

>>136813250
>back to the stone age
Mate, I've got some news for you...

>>136813687
The nuke building and threatening is the only reason he's still in power

>>136810982
>NK is the only country in the world with an armed force and nukes

>>136810982

Gee, I wonder who could be behind such a bad analysis? Juncker is that you?

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>>136810982
>North Korea has the 4th largest army in the world, all men in North Korea have had some kind of military training.

Their infrastructure and weaponry are soviet WWII era you stupid fuck, their only hope is to get China involved as an allie.
Also you are claiming shit without sources and real data, and you know that there's no "official" census of NK. We don't know shit about even Chinese militia, not even CIA.

>>136810982
China would not risk a world war over fucking North Korea, that's retarded.

>>136810982

>Implying the military doesn't have backup methods in place for communication and faraday cages built to protect valuable equipment.

EMP would only fuck with civilian population. Military would still go from 0 to boot firmly planted up Piggy's asshole.

Also this

The U.S. Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system began production in 2008.[45] Its stated range as a short to intermediate ballistic missile interceptor means that it cannot hit ICBMs, which can reach terminal phase speeds of mach 8 or greater.

THAAD is not even capable of intercepting North Korean ICBMs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ballistic_missile

>>136810982
Amerinukes cant penetrate NK's DUMB's and hundreds of kms of tunnels and bunkers, Trump better back the fuck down right now.

>>136813216
Ah yes, the classic winning strategy of losing so hard your entire country becomes a radioactive crater.

>>136810982
>USA will need months to bring enough equipment and troops near North Korea to launch an effective ground invasion.
You forget that we could turn North Korea into glass in less than an hour.

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>>136810982

They will win in the same way Vietnam won it.

>>136813397
We invaded Iraq for thinking that they may have been involved for 9/11. So the idea of nuking the Norks if they have bombed a city of ours isn't a fucking stretch

How do OP's get this fucking stupid?
Is it a disease? Or a genital defect that I'm not aware of?

Funny how the only two countries who want a Korean reunion are USA and North Korea.

>>136814505
American education at its finest on display right here...
Get off 4chan you fagit, your under 18 is showing

>>136810982
>everyone knows the cia brings in white heroin from north korea and would gladly plunge america into civil war with an emp false flag.

Korean central television is broadcast by the CIA owned intelsat and has never objected to its satellites being used to broadcast north korean propaganda.

The traceroute for all north korean websites originates in the chinese border province of laoning,travels through the us-china sprint backbone which starts to route through level 3 at washington DC.

If america wanted to shut off north korea's internet it could do so by cutting off a specific part of china unicoms peering with sprint/level 3 at washington dc.

try it for yourself, traceroute rondong.rep.kp.

America with a EMP blackout will still have more troops and more food than north korea EASILY.

Infact one militia and a few AR-17 would take out most of the invading forces easily.

>>136810982
>to launch an effective ground invasion.
Implying anything other than american bombs will be touching nork soil.

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>>136810982
>mfw

>>136814948
How am I wrong faggot?

MAD isn't for the likes of NK, who probably can't even get a nuke off the ground

>>136810982
US and Other Whiteoids Land must be Burned & Destroyed

>USA unable to defeat the Taliban despite being in Afghanistan for decades

>USA unable to defeat ISIS

>USA unable to defeat Vietnam

>USA unable to defeat North Korea in the Korean war

When was the last time USA actually won a war without the support of the rest of NATO?

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>>136814772
Civil "things" are protected with Faraday cages too, go and dismount an Iphone 6 or some high-tier Toshiba laptop.

>>136814481
Arabs are the weakest soldiers on Earth next to little girls and obese women, beating Saddam is nothing to be proud of.

>>136810982
>ground invasion
The U.S does not need a ground invasion it needs simply to wipeout the head of the government and it's over, you'll start to see mass defections to the south and regional warlords seeking out to save their own skin.

>>136814938
That's because the South Koreans don't to deal with the mess of 20 million dumb Koreans.

It be like asking how the Norwegians if they want to care for their dumb neighbors like Sweden

>>136810982

>muh EMP

Don't be a moron.

Is there any actual chance China gets on NK's side?

>>136811452
An embargo on the US? How the fuck would they fund their war against us?

>>136815162
If they want to ensure their own economic collapse, sure.

>>136814359
>Implying the outdated 1950s anti-ICBM systems are able to actually intercept a modern ICBM
You mean those modern ICBM's that North Korea doesn't have?

>Enough to destroy the 4th biggest army in the world, launch a ground invasion AND control the areas it would capture? doubt it.
Yes. Because they have allies in those regions: South Korea, Japan, Thailand, the Philippines and Singapore. Not to mention some smaller ones. Also, European military forces will probably offer USA help because they don't want to be nuked into oblivion by NK.

>*Citation needed
"North Korea has a conventional army of more than 1.1m, but its equipment is thought to be Soviet-era and in poor condition."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-21710644

>One word: SAMs
see previous point. They're no match for American drones.

>Did it shoot down the recent ICBMs tested? nope
It didn't have to. If they would have been targeted at anyone, they would have.

>China has already said it supports the North Korean regime and has given them plenty of equipment in the past and have good relations, China already said it wont accept NATO on its borders
Not accepting NATO on its borders is not the same as not supporting military action against NK. China has already sent troops to the NK border before to "take a stand against North Korea if it conducted another nuclear or intercontinental ballistic missile test, according to reports."
http://uk.businessinsider.com/china-reportedly-sends-150000-troops-to-north-korea-border-2017-4?international=true&r=UK&IR=T

Also, "China willing to 'pay a price' for stronger North Korea sanctions"
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/08/asia/china-north-korea-sanctions/index.html
Doesn't seem like such a good ally does it? And again, China will collapse if America collapses. They will not destroy their own country for NK.

>>136815162
10% but they would most likely invade North Korea themselves since they get more natural resources if they did nothing or side with the Norks

>>136810982
>everyone forgets we have nuclear subs that can launch fire and fury like the world has never seen before
MAGA

>>136811452
Lol no, we're the biggest consumers of their cheap scrap.
If anything, if we go in and kick NKs ads, they'll turn a blind eye to it.
They aren't gonna piss off their best customer to keep a crackpot dictator happy

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>>136815162
Do you know what a "paper tiger" is?

>>136810982
>one nuke detonated
This shit literally comes from a sci-fi book.

>>136814174
>You can't intercept artillery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY1NErClX1g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4PXou0aGiE

>>136810982
I could walk around the USA and cut all the electricity wires and end your country myself. All modern countries are extremely fragile as they are too complex.

>>136810982
Nigger, we used to detonate our own nukes over this country for testing and EMP was never a problem. The only way those manlets would ever take out our electronics is if they directly hit them.

>>136815455
>Implying any kind of defence system could actually intercept shells firing from 20,000 artillery units simultaneously

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>>136810982
sage

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>>136811282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnEbVBZIrAE

This is the shit.

>>136812987
Thank you. Been looking for this song/videdo for a long ass time.

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>>136812454

> Brazilian
> Degeneracy

Okay Mr. Da Silva, try not to get murdered today

>>136810982
emp radius is smaller than the blast radius, dumbass

I hope to someday see a true nukes falling tier happening, imagine the intensity of shitposts and maymays on /pol/ if that happened

>>136815557
The first opening actions of a US Strike would be SEAD and CAS-SEAS.

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both usa and nk is all bark no action, but i think kim just might be crazy enough to strike with nukes without warning

300 miles above the USA = outer space. The Nork's are not even close to having that ability. This whole NK thing is a big, fat, nothingburger.

>>136810982

>Artillary
>Relevant in 2017

Mate there is something called Air Force wth the B2 bombers.
This bad boy can fly 11000 km without fuel and can drop bombs on every fucking artillary position North Korea has

>>136814796
CHAD THAAD can definitely intercept NK nukes, because NK nukes can not into re-entry

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>>136810982
sage

>>136810982

>US somehow manages to invade North Korea with South Korean allies
>Norks just start detonating carefully placed nuke mines all over the place

If the US wants to defeat North Korea they must be prepared to lose 50,000 soldiers +

>>136814932
He's a shitty leaf hiding behind a fake flag, what else is new?

>>136815850
1 sam and its out of the sky.

>>136815268
>b7PewAer
>>136815268
>>136815268
>You mean those modern ICBM's that North Korea doesn't have?
North Korea has ICBMs that have atmospheric re entry you fucking retard. Those types of ICBMs are known as "modern" and were not in the 50s. And soon they'll get MITRVs.

You're an incompetent baboon. I'll ignore the rest of your post since the begging is clear indication that you have no idea what you're talking about even if I'm anti-Gook as fuck.

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Glorious Syria/Iraq/Iran/Russia/North Korea/China/Belarus/Hungary/Turkey axis of resistance when?

>>136815944
That's why we send in the Japs and South Koreans first bud.

>>136815850

Do you know how much conventional artillery the Norks have pointed at Seoul? Do you know how many tunnels and shit they've dug in the 50+ years they've had time to do so?

It's just impossible for America to destroy all of the artillery, Seoul would get absolutely flattened, millions would die.

>>136815945
I honestly would not be surprised if (((it))) is a leaf, they have all the reason to be jealous.
>inb4 c-16 reference
>sage

>>136816194

Yeah sending in the Japs to fight them won't emboldened them ten times what they already are.

Do Americans even read history books?

>>136815804
Yes they do. Their latest missile test that landed close to Japan was essentially shooting the missile into outer space above satellites and having it drop down.

Americans are so fucking stupid.

>>136811034
Wtf is this haircut

If a global nuclear war doesn't start in the next few days I will be pissed.

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>>136813955
Not for long

>>136816287
What are they gonna do? Screech while they hurl rusty Mosin Nagant rifles at S.Korean tanks?

>>136816124
>North Korea has ICBMs that have atmospheric re entry you fucking retard. Those types of ICBMs are known as "modern" and were not in the 50s.
"Analysts doubt North Korea's ICBM re-entry capability"
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/analysts-doubt-north-koreas-icbm-entry-capability-48960714

>And soon they'll get MITRVs.
[citation needed]

> I'll ignore the rest of your post since the begging is clear indication that you have no idea what you're talking about even if I'm anti-Gook as fuck.
Translation: I'll ignore the rest of your posts since I have no arguments against your points and I have no idea what I'm talking about even if I'm anti-Gook as fuck.

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Facts about North Korea:
• Lacks Resources to fight a long war
• Lacks Ammuniton for such war
• Attacking the US will provoke NATO
• North Korea is highly unstable, there are rumors that there have been coup attempts.
• The US has Nuclear Weapons
• The KPA is under-equiped and under-gunned.
• North Korea lacks the food to feed it's soldiers in a Long Term War.

Those are the facts on a War against the DPRK.
Facts about OP:

>>136816498

Yeah they don't have automatic rifles, machine guns or anything.

>>136813913
>will not destroy their own country for North Kor
Correct!

>>136816341
Which one?

Why does /pol/ even care about Kim? If he managed to nuke Seattle and LA + some other cities in California wouldn't it just kill a bunch of Democrat voters therefore helping Trump?

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>>136813955
Well spoken fellow patriot, the US stands tall and nukes all!
>sage

>>136816315
With no warhead, and no one knows what they were shooting at. It's not like they published that beforehand. Like a little boy setting off bottlerockets.

>>136816563
Yeah a bullet from a 50 year old AK-47 can penetrate a K2...

>>136810982
EMPs are a meme. Show me someone whose electronics got fried from an actual nuclear test

>>136816657

Have fun even getting K2s there

>>136816694

google carrington event

North Korea doesn't even have a nuclear bomb small enough to fit onto an ICBM.

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murricans are afraid, for once they are targeted

>>136816756

they do now

>>136816614
It's still an unprovoked attack on the United States, and they're still people despite of what they believe.

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>North Korea does not have any good weap-

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>>136816833

>unprovoked

wew americans actually believe this

Most of you are also forgetting about North Koreas huge naval force

Why does US want to attack NK? As I see, NK didn't attack anyone yet.

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>white house in 2 months

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This aint the Taliban or ISIS you are fighting this time, Uncle Sam
USA even struggles to bomb sandal wearing arab goat fuckers lmao

>>136817117

They have attacked their neighbor lots of times in small incidents.

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>>136813397
Yeah, the US never did that before...

>>136816832
Wow, I didn't know that. Analysts had previously claimed they were at least 5 years away from doing these things, now it looks like they have everything they need now.

>>136817292

Yeah all those "they are 5 years away from the rocket / 10 years" have been proven bullshit, all of a sudden just now they've caught right up.

>>136810982
>t. brainlet that doesn't understand electro-magnetism

>>136817117
Because they be talking a lot shit, running our reputation on the global block, my nigga. Kim Jung Un and his (((dong))) misses are going to have to fess up, once we send in the niggers first they'll surrender.
>useful idiots

>>136817292
>>136817372

Analysts don't really know shit, how can they even make a claim without any evidence, which they can't obtain unless they have access to NK.

It's only educated guesses based on previous rocket tests.

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Let's look at some facts from a war that was fought between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and the United States in the Early 90s.

Iraq had the 5th or 4th Largest Military in 1990. It had about 3,000 or 4,000 Tanks in total most of which being T-55s and T-62s though yes. But it was impressive for a Middle Eastern country. The Air Campaign lasted for 2 weeks, and the Ground Campaign went for only 96 hours. North Korea at most would last about 2 or 4 months before surrendering. After seeing from this historical examples. Iraq in 1990 had similar numbers to today's North Korea (Except in Reserves).

>>136817372
Its the fucking Jews brah I can't believe /pol/ don't see this, North Korea don't have shit
>sage

No one is talking about how is gonna react the economic world after a nuke was trow. Last time the world faced a nuke was in WW2, the gane changer that made the world in the way we know it. An economic breakdown might happen and that is what trump fears now, not so much about SK

>>136817586

Yeah they do, they've even shown us that they have it.

>>136817224

It's not Iraq either.

>>136813397
And Democrats stand to gain a lot. If Trump bombs NK all the SJWs and lefties will claim that all Republicans are war mongers. Many people will believe that and will vote for the party Obongo- the black president that won a nobel prize for peace.

>>136810982
>1 nuke detonated 300 miles above the USA will create an EMP blast and wipe out all electronics, especially effective if used on the East coast

>a killing bolt will shine in the night, but will not kill

i think amerilards will win VS north korea

like they did in vietnaw

You do realise how much it costs to fix a nuclear mess, right?

If NK launched all its nukes onto the US, the US economy will be killed.

>>136817619
(((Shown))) for all we know there plastic, it went fro 1940s tech to miniaturization in less than a year, yeah right. The Jew wants another conflict, North Korea can't topple a skyscraper without losing half there army. There no threat to us, like come on really, like no offense, but only 3 countries in the world can stack up to our shit.

>>136817504

I am sorry but you ARE retarded... That was a desert, awesome place for air force, because, you know, there's no cover, also they didn't have tunnels. NK is a jungle, similar to that of Vietnam, have borders with both China and Russia, so to expect that war to last 2 months... is retarded.

Also even if US wins in 2 months, partisans will be there for decades

>>136810982
I played Homefront too

>>136817877

It wasn't plastic the US even tracked the fucking thing.

>>136817504

Iraq is nothing like North Korea, the terrain is completely different.

>>136810982
>America doesn't have any forces anywhere but america
hey, why don't you go down to your local american military base and tell them that, if you're really from the eu, you larping nigger

>>136813687
No he doesn't you ignorant twat
North Korea going in a hissy fit every other year has been on occurrence since the Clinton era. North Korea found that they can "extort" food and funds from the US ans UN via threatening to escalate a nuclear. The Kim family has lived like fucking god-kings since the DPRK's inception, they don't want to lose their luxurious life style, they want to be "relevant" and give its people some red meat propaganda. "Oh there goslea glorious leader, putting the evil American imperialists in their place". Its why NOTHING has ever happened and NOTHING will happen.
This whole thread if full of retards

drumpf got his shit kicked in when he was posturing up to russia in syria, his 51 tomahawks failed, his little special ops mission in south-eastern syria got fucked by assad and now they cucked the k*rds as well
now he is trying with the norks but they won't stand down

>>136818089
>Implying a small base with a few hundred troops and a jet or two is significant

>>136818216
>Implying a small base with a few hundred troops and a jet or two is significant
post with your real flag nigger

>>136817967
Even if its true which I highly doubt, I figure this to be another Iraq all over again. Where going to get there and find nothing, Theres people in the US government that would like nothing better then to watch us burn, these conflicts are no good, plus there threatening Guam, nothing of value will be lost.

>>136817504
You do know that the Gulf War was pretty much Iraq vs the world
Even the Soviets supported the Americans

>>136818216
>t. colonized and occupied non-country

>>136818268

Except the Iraqis never tested a nuclear weapon, the Norks have done it several times and these things can be picked up by seismonitors and the likes.

>>136818266
Alright, burger boy

>>136810982
>>USA will need months to bring enough equipment and troops near North Korea to launch an effective ground invasion.
You have to be retarded to NOT believe that there is currently enough US personal in SK, Japan and on the sea to overrun NK in a week.

>>Within 5 minutes of war 20,000 artillery pieces will rain down hell on South Korea destroying all infrastructure making a ground invasion extremely difficult.
No, you have no understanding of reality, 20.000 artillery shots are LITERALLY nothing.

>>China will support North Korea
Just no.

>>136818216
also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments
Also, NATO
We have ICBMs up everyone's ass you dipshit, its why places like Russia and China are always so angry with us, we have nukes near their borders.
Or did you forgot how the board exploded with the recent Turkish...sorta civil war, when they tried to steal American nukes stationed there as a part of their NATO agreement?
Or all our troops in Poland?

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>>136818352

>You have to be retarded to NOT believe that there is currently enough US personal in SK, Japan and on the sea to overrun NK in a week.

>20.000 artillery shots are LITERALLY nothing.

>>136818332
>A "Brit"
Don't you have acid attacks to avoid and diversity quotas to meet?

>>136818352
>Implying artillery units would only fire one shell

>Implying a few thousand troops are enough to invade an entire country. fucking LOL

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>>136818444
>>You have to be retarded to NOT believe that there is currently enough US personal in SK, Japan and on the sea to overrun NK in a week.

>>20.000 artillery shots are LITERALLY nothing.

>>136818468
>Implying i live in Engstan

>>136818487
>>Implying artillery units would only fire one shell
Obviously not. But it will not "destroy all the infrastructure in 5 minutes either"

>Implying a few thousand troops are enough to invade an entire country. fucking LOL
Implying the us has a "few thousands" troops stationed there.

>>136810982
>USA will need months to bring enough equipment and troops near North Korea to launch an effective ground invasion.
We won't need a ground invasion, they will be wiped out before they even wake up in the morning.

>THAAD is still not completely set up meaning North Korean ICBMs will not be shot down
You think they would let a ICBM hit? They already trained South Korean special forces to disable the nuclear facilities. If it really comes to it we will just use our secret weapons, it wont though...

>>136817798
Those people you speak of are not the majority. They are simply the most vocal, and most covered by the biased media

>>136810982
>1 nuke
Wrong fake news. It would probably take 3 nukes of the type NK has, over the east coast, West coast, and middle of the US. And, this assumes the re-entry vehicle survives. A technical problem the Norks haven't solved yet. Still, they will figure it out soon. So we might as well end this shit now. Nuke the Norks, WWIII NOW!

>>136814902
>We invaded Iraq for thinking that they may have been involved for 9/11
People seriously still drink this particular batch of Kool Aid?

>>136818570
The latter would still apply even if you live elsewhere you dumb nigger
Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons
Also, since you seem to be living under quite the rock,
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/asia/bhutan-india-border-dispute/index.html
China has more problems to worry about then American making a mess with the norks, if they intervene there, the Indians might move in to seize part of China
Its as if you see modern geopolitics as a 2 dimensional thing

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>The west at war with NK and China

Too good to be true.

>>136818331
Look I highly doubt NK can do anything, scenario plays out like so 1 there bluffing 2 they hit Guam, Japan fucks shit up until we get there, they we all fuck shit up. Personally I see SK as the weak leak. or 3 they fire for LA or west coast in general we shot it down with our superior burger technology, and commence fucking up of NK

>>136819012

If you think Japan wouldn't get absolutely BTFO by North Korea then you really don't have a clue what you are talking about. The thing isn't about whether the Norks are going to nuke fucking Guam it's about the shit they would fuck up for anyone that dared invade them.

>>136819012
>Implying the Japs are even allowed a big enough military to fight North Korea

>>136812783
>china will nuke its biggest trade partner if they don't allow a trade embargo
Ok

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>>136810982
>Dear Leader will liberate entire world from (((american))) degenerate cultural imperialism.
DISEMBOWL EVERY BURGER, DEAR LEADER!
FREE PEOPLE OF EVERY NATION!

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>>136819290

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>>136819333

>>136813913
>arm chair commander
>Reddit posting
Holy shit /pol/ has gone downhill.

>>136819150

Except they do maintain a formidable force for "defence" only, and have nukes to be ready after a day of assembly.

>>136819290
>>136819333
>>136819383
>>136819384
Oh look, now that your argument has no legs to stand on when faced with reality, you call in your fellow shills to just start spamming propaganda

>>136813934
Without fail.

>>136815268
Stop posting. You sound like a 15 year old idiot who has a hard on for Americans. Just stop.

>>136819423
>>136819598
10/10 arguments dude.

>>136819145
>>136819150
The Japanese are obligated to fight on our behalf but you goys aren't American so you wouldn't know your treaties, plus Japan doesn't need a army against NK there tech speaks for itself. We can literally tell them to shut down NK completely, Swear like some people are so jealous of America that they hope each a third world country like NK can do something. I hope they do something so everybody can see how fast we clean up this issue that should've been taken care of 50 years ago, just like shock and awe, Iraq was 50 times more advanced then NK and that took a month, they also had tech similar to European powers.

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>>136819528
Korean nukes will free world from your degenerate imperialist "culture", you american cuckboy.
The more dead american the better the world for every diverse peoples of earth.

>>136819672
>The Japanese are obligated to fight on our behalf
Wrong.

>>136819650
You're literally "America numba one!". Your arguments are equivalent to an sjw arguing for black people getting reparations. There's no use to arguing with someone who is so stubborn in their thinking.

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>>136819686
Nuclear armageddon on burger soil will be god's blessing.

>>136816287
Who cares if they are emboldened? We will already be at war at that point

>>136819732
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Mutual_Cooperation_and_Security_between_the_United_States_and_Japan

>>136819732
http://www.mofa.go.jp/region/n-america/us/q&a/ref/1.html

>>136819686
How is murdering people freeing the world
ever hear of the saying, "he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword"?
I already know what's in store for my country, sooner or later, but you have to understand, try to see the larger picture with some sense of history here.
When an empire like america falls, it will plunge the world into chaos. One which the human race may never recover from.
I'm assuming not much, if any of this is getting through to you, but please try to understand what it will mean for the rest of the world, since you very clearly do not care one bit for any of the people's of american, or any of the millions visiting our nation at any one time, please at least consider the consequences of the murder of so many, and the destruction of so much,
Let me ask you, what do you think of the ancient burning of the library of Alexandria?

>>136819811
people like you are why trump won
Hope you realize that

>>136810982
>What are the Minuteman III silos
>What are SSBN subs with Trident missiles with 10 nukes on them
>What are B-2s armed with nukes

If any nuke goes off in the USA north korea will be turned into a falout theme park

>>136818216
>Implying we only have a small base with a few troops
Dummy, half of the navy/marine corps is in Asia at any given point, and half the army/Air Force is in Europe.
Goddamn you're dumb

>>136810982
Lmfao.

We literally have subs waiting off their coast. When they attack guam we'll shoot down their missile over the ocean and give South Korea a backyard pool, have ourselves a little dog barbecue while we watch China fend off waves of brainwashed refugees.

We're going to let them strike first so we can completely wipe them out. No one will be able to say shit.

>>136819672

You are wrong on so many levels, do you think the Norks will just sit there and let Japanese "tech" attack them, what the hell is that some gundam robots you think are real? The North Koreans would launch a full scale assault on the South if they were attacked and quickly overrun plenty of the country before the US could do anything.

Iraq is nothing like Korea as the terrain and being overstretched was Iraq's main problem, there were very few routes for the army to take hence why it got bogged down.

The US couldn't "finish off" the war because they couldn't win the war, that's the whole point, the war resulted in a stalemate with the US gaining nothing.

>>136820138
>Half the Army/Air Force is in Europe
wew lad, got any proof, Cap'n America?

>>136813397
>and the USA becomes even more divided

Good, who gives a fuck? the truth doesn't care how many people disagree with it

>>136820278
It's the only reason you aren't speaking Russian, you fucking mut.

>>136812454
In long term this would be good thing for yurop
>make old world great again

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>>136820396
>mut
Do you even English?

Still waiting for proof btw

>>136820259
Okay frist of all your wrong, NK is a third world country, 50s tech and nothing more, second south Koreas knows there fate I could Gove two shits about them, they need to defend themselves and they know it, and he world knows it. Third yeah I'm pretty sure thanks to those released Snowden transcripts that NK is just one virus away from the house of cards tumbling down.
>oil

>>136820396
honestly, most Of europe seems this overwhelmingly ungrateful if you look at the statistics
I still wish trump pulls us out of nato and leaves most of Europe to rot, sure, we'd have defensive alliances with the places that actually try, like Poland and the UK, but just leave mainland Europe to rot.
Cut off everything to them and put in a massive embargo, no military forces, no food, no aid, no trade, no flow of goods and people, nothing. If they want us gone so much, then they should not have one thing from America.

>>136819786
I make counterarguments against OP's arguments. I provide sources for my arguments.

>You're literally "America numba one!".
I'm really not. All I'm doing is arguing that America's military force is far greater and stronger than that of NK, and therefore America will win a war with NK.

>Your arguments are equivalent to an sjw arguing for black people getting reparations.
Please elaborate as to why you think this is the case?

> There's no use to arguing with someone who is so stubborn in their thinking.
I'm not stubborn in my thinking. To convince me you have to bring arguments that have merit. Not the shit you're doing now. Provide me with evidence that shows I'm wrong, and I'll change my mind. Saying shit like "Stop posting. You sound like a 15 year old idiot who has a hard on for Americans. Just stop." is not going to change my mind. You're an absolute moron if you think something like that would change anyone's mind.

Nothing will happen. Nothing ever happens, we live in a world of mundane shit and stupidity.

>>136820259
Then on top of that if we wanted to destroy Iraq without using nukes we could, we sent in a fraction of a fraction of our troops and toppled sadams house of cards, you swear like Iraq is that important that we want to go full war on them. So idk what world your living in but you know damn well, that if we really wanted to destroy some shit we could.

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>>136819990
>implying we don't need chaos to better the world.
The world is decadent and degenerate to no fix. How do you thing will anything will be fix today? Through words and discussion? That won't work anymore because the people who promise to fix the nation, go against all their promises for more power and influence for establishment.

No body cares about your Trump anymore unless your a desperate burger who still believes in him becasue in your eyes he is last hope for your puppet country which bring missery not just to rest of the world but even to it's own people... hate to brake it to you but Trump is just a puppet for Zog and rest of neocon and neoliberal traitors.
To hide his traitorous deeds and broken promises saying shit like "Im am a nationalist and a globalist also"... all in sake to maintain the status quo...
We need to break globalist status quo and in doing so your country will be destroyed.
What world needs today is conflict on the scale of world war, so that weak perish and only strong man remain to fix it and make world better.

>6 US Special Forces sent in detachment
>Come in and kill everyone 20 minutes before fat boy Korea pushes the button
>We all go back to our lives

>>136820617

Wow you are more retarded than I thought, a fucking virus bringing everything down? Do you know how many North Koreans have access to the internet? Do you think a computer virus could bring down their power system? Good luck getting those viruses into the systems that are not even linked to one another.

The Norks have done more damage to the West via viruses than the West can ever hope to do to them.

>>136820882

You are the one that keeps bringing up Iraq as if it is a superb achievement even though the US has achieved absolutely zero strategic goals and pushed Iraq towards Iran who are the real winners.

Blowing up some Iraqi tanks in the desert is nothing compared to what would be required to defeat the Norks, it's not even comparable.

>>136820882
Not even that man, Our politicians have single handedly turned Haiti into Textile Factories.

The CIA alone toppeled Iran and All of South America.

Everyone talks shit, they have no fucking idea what we're capable of with our military in full force. WE don't even know. It's terrifying to even comprehend my countries military might.

Imagine what we could do to this world with just our drones. Not spending a single drop of blood. And then NK comes along, who can barely hit the broad side of the sea of japan, talking shit.

Get ready for a fucking blood bath.

>>136816241
Do you know what Synthetic Aperture Radar is? Grey Eagle?

>>136810982
Literally none of these things will happen. NK can't airburst. NK can't even accurately guide the missile. US defense com is hardened and has been for 30 years. Look up darpa net programs. Stop talking shit.

>>136820817
Be the habbening u want

>>136820905
>The world is decadent and degenerate to no fix. How do you thing will anything will be fix today? Through words and discussion? That won't work anymore because the people who promise to fix the nation, go against all their promises for more power and influence for establishment.
>proceeds to blame trump for the world's problems

The only thing that will arise from people like you is an even worse, more decadent and degenerate world.
What I want, what I hope but suspect will never ever happen, is for america to completely withdraw from the world, to erect walls, close our borders, shut off ourselves from everyone else and just keep to ourselves, focus on becoming self-sufficient, and to hell with the rest of the world, keep them out with force if need be
I don't want a "brave new world", i just want america to keep to itself and be left the fuck alone.

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>>136821182

>>136816341
It's the I have a black croissant on my head style

>>136821106
Exactly

>>136820278
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-personnel-deployments-by-country-2017-3

>>136813397
all we need is for parts of California to be nuked, and then it doesn't matter if we wipe them off the map, democrats would take such a hit theyd never win again

>>136821498
Into archive
https://archive.is/dbNzk

>>136810982
>reminder the USA were unable to defeat North Korea in the Korean war and literally begged North Korea for a truce.

Reminder, the only reason that NK was able to defend against the mainland US invasion was because our forces were essentially fighting the Chinese on the Korean peninsula... a fact that the US government will deny to this day even though its an objective fact.

China uses NK as a border buffer from the rest of the world, Something that has been causing them to lose a lot of geopolitical capitol. If war breaks out, China isn't going to sacrifice itself just to maintain some degree of distance from countries with western influence.

Those famished gooks aren't going to have China propping them up nearly as hard as they did in the first Korean war. That's why we see the international community rallying around Trump getting China to start getting its rabid lap dog in line, because it's ultimately China we'll be fighting if they don't get the Kim regime to sitthefuckdown.

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Americans are so blinded by their own patriotism they literally think a few thousand troops are capable of invading an entire country at a moments notice AND think they dont have to rely on NATO when in every war in the middle east they have preformed so poorly they have to call all of NATO to help them.

The end of America is nigh.

>>136821589
Europeans are so dumb that they think we only have a few thousand troops who can deploy in 24 hours.

>>136821102
You really think the CIA can't locate the one computer controlling there warheads and fill a switch? 10 years ago you had to instal it yourself, 5 years ago you have to be with proximity, now we don't even know because no leaks, you swear like this is 4 d chess.
>implying NK will be a challenge
yeah I'm sure that starving population and half woman army is so tuff compared to our full feed, modern era military, I'm shaking in my boots

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>>136821225
That's what rest of the world wants.
But your precious Trump or rest of your elites won't ever do it because it isn't in (((American))) interests.
Most of the world despises your country because of your "police of the world" mentality.

You're people were the ones who promoted degeneracy in the europe, with your cultural imperialism of "freedom", "acceptance" and "tolerance".
America is leader of (((globalist))) agenda and that globalist needs to be destroyed, but your country will never allow it.

>>136821662
What does "half of the US army and Air force" being based in Europe have anything to do with North Korea anyway?

>>136821589
We're not trying to win wars in the middle east, we're trying to topple regimes for money, and because we're bored.

You think we're going to see much of that money? No. It's going to go to Israel and Saudi Arabia, so that we own them, just like we own the western world, No one will turn on us because they belong to us.

Eurofags can talk all the shit they want. The only reason you're allowed to live free from Russian Rule, is because of American Tax Dollars.

I get it, It's demoralizing. So say whatever you gotta say to soften the blow to your booty. It's an ego thing. I get it. Everytime you say "AMERIFATZ" I hear (t-thank you.. leader-of-the-western-world senpai..) under your breath.

>>136821758

There will be plenty of food for the army when they are looting South Korea while your well fed army wait for their order of XXXL body armour.

The CIA cannot prevent the Norks from launching nukes, if you think it's like a film where there is one computer with a couple of keys then you are wrong, all it takes is a numbers station to start sending out the signal and off they go.

>>136821102
And yeah it was, showed everybody we could fuck up a modern military without even trying, and we went there for oil dude, among other things that we won't know for another 60 years when shit gets declassified, you swear like we would leave empty handed, it was just a false flag yet again. and NK is another false flag, your acting like as if there soviet era Russia or something they'll fall like the rest. Not even a debate

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>>136821825
You are HUGELY underestimating the power of all European Armed Forces combined, we probably have the ability to win a war against the USA if we wanted to

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>>136817224

Nice moving goalpost. What happened to "SOURCE?! Americans only have a few thousand soldiers."?

It matters because even if bombs destroyed all of the west coast, we could still launch and expeditionary campaign.
We have European bombers are on 24/7 standby for nuclear launches. The pacific fleet could flatten NK within hours of a launch

>>136817224
>predicates argument on the fact that conventional military forces have always had a difficult time engaging in asymmetric, guerrilla warfare with insurgent combatants embedded within a civilian population
>proceeds to posit that the most advanced conventional military will have a difficult time fighting a conventional 3rd world military comprised entirely of conscripted starving gooks using Soviet era military technology

Congratulations, you just owned yourself, faggot.

>>136821782
>08/10/17(Thu)09:09:01 No.136822072
>Nice moving goalpost. What happened to "SOURCE?! Americans only have a few thousand soldiers."?
>It matters because even if bombs destroyed all of the west coast, we could still launch and expeditionary campaign.
>We have European bombers are on 24/7 standby for nuclear launches. The pacific fleet could flatten NK within hours of a launch

>>136821825
This. And military industrial complex gibs. We know how to end a war if we want to.

>>136812937
I'd like to solve the puzzle.

What is a fire?

>>136822036
All of your armed forces are backed and funded by us, if we caught the notion of you eurocucks going turn coat we'd pull the funding and watch your armies crumble, and then your societies succumb to shitskin invasions while we barbecue and pop fireworks because fuck you.

That's what Europeans don't get, We wouldn't have to life a finger. All we'd literally have to do is stop spending our money on you, and we'd win.

>>136818352
T.burger everyone.

-slow clap-

>>136822024

Again wrong, the US gained what from Gulf war 1? They didn't topple Saddam? Then it took a decade of sanctions that starved the country for them to try it again which they completely fucked up leading to an insurgency that killed thousands of troops and cost trillions of dollars. What did the US gain from that? They certainly lost credibility with Collin Powell sat with his little capsule at the UN.

>>136810982
Actually the EMP will be a false-flag attack, planned by the US military, in cooperation with McMaster (who cooperates, what a coincidence, with DNDO director James F. McDonell). After the EMP attack and possible other destructions, eventually even getting rid of the president, there will be a quick counter-attack.

>>136810982
>>1 nuke detonated 300 miles above the USA will create an EMP blast and wipe out all electronics, especially effective if used on the East coast.

So how does the US doing this on NK not work?

>>136822036
Not now, but in a few years this will be true. Europe will become one, that is their goal and no one is gonna stop them.

>>136821957
You don't know that, show me your special clearance and ill believe you, plus if America thought NK was a legit threat wouldn't have we attacked by now, Plus like I said earlier Japan will help, and South Korea who is also well feed and supplied with American military might will survive, NK is nothing and your dumb for thinking there something
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/03/07/wikileaks_has_released_documents_detailing_the_cia_s_hacking_capabilities.html

>>136822248
Are you fucking stupid?
We stopped Saddam Hussein from gaining control of the Petrodollar with the Gulf War.

Reminder if a nuke goes off in any member city, it's 100% a false flag.

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>>136822431

The Norks have been asking to die for decades now.

We should just turn them into glass.

No ground invasion. Just let the Chinese and South Koreans know that they should be ready to hold the line at the borders

The Chinese are really the ones to blame here. They have the power to stop this and they should put their little dog in check or get ready for thousands of migrants to flood over their border

>>136813216
Lol no.

Kim is simply using nuclear threats to get the US to back off.
He knows its only a matter of time before NK ends up like Libya or Syria because he doesnt have Jewish banks.
He also knows if he strikes first that he is fucked. He doesnt want his country turned to rubble, he wants to stay in power and rule his country until he dies. He wants his dynasty to continue.
Threats of NK attacking first are just to keep the US on their toes and remind them that they're messing with something bigger than the other countries they easily destroyed for their own interests

>>136814875
US backed down due to a presidential turnover in Vietnam, not militarily. If the US had committed, Vietnam would've been won.

>>136822248
Kek what did I say FALSE FLAG right there in the texts, opinion way past discarded and your the one wrong like always wrong this whole time, you just dislike America. And they did topple sadam it happened on the news, what you don't have tv in Britain?

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>>136822460
oy vey

>>136822391

The US would've attacked North Korea if North Korea didn't have nukes that is why they are such a great asset and all countries should seek to have an independent nuclear defense capability.

The US can puff up their chest as much as they want, their talk is just as cheap as North Korean talk and from America it is embarrassing.

>>136822431
Hes mad because he's not American, I can feel it

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>>136822629

You do realise there were 2 wars in Iraq right?

>>136822637
Ghadafi agrees

>>136810982
>minutemen III aren't hardened against EMP strikes
Neck yourself.

>>136822036
You cucks can't even afford to pay your share to NATO.

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>>136810982
>USA doesn't have contingency plans
>USA isn't good at war/conquest
>But NK is!

>>136821780
Is that Portugal in Italy?

>>136822180
This.

Euroniggers cant even pay their fair share for NATO

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>>136822460

Based Assad.

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Man, if they wiped out all electronics
>dont have to worry about money any more
>dont have to worry about working any more (CS grad, software engineer)
>can actually go outside and enjoy nature without cars, industry, etc getting in the way

life will be nice for a few weeks before the gangs and raiders start going around and behead me for my food

Might be okay desu

>>136822679
No shit brah your just confused your whole argument is confused hatred, clown Powell is a jew puppet, no WMD FALSE FLAG LIKE I SAID

>>136822260
Didn't /pol/ go over all this in march or so, found wikileaks stuff that implied there was a planned nuclear false flag on jew york, blaming the norks for it or something?

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The Americans here talking about "turning the NORKS into glass" and "muh europe does not pay its fair share in NATO" are literally boomers blinded by their own silly and quite frankly hilarious version of patriotism

Americans don't realise that their moment in the sun has passed and the world has shifted back to balance the global power system. Russia has absolutely outplayed the US in recent years, Georgia / Ukraine / Syria.

Iran "won" from the Iraq war and now you have a Shia bloc forming.

What can the US do now other than threaten the Norks and launch a few tomahawks at a Syrian airfield? Nothing.

>>136810982
>Implying the US needs to launch a ground invasion
Lol

>Europeans talking shit

Don't you realize that when we go down the Russians are going to take back all of Eastern Europe and the Chinese are going to dominate all of Asia?

You are basically just exchanging who you will be vassals to. Enjoy being ruled by Russian jews

>>136822637
Got nothing else to say but that huh what I thought, first off North Korea will soon be a example IF they try some shit, second NK are the only ones stupid enough to try some shit like top kek dude what are you talking about? You see anybody trying this no, because they know what would happen, they know we don't take NK seriously, even putin shits himself at night thinking about.

>>136823013
Exactly again

>>136822986
>Americans don't realise that their moment in the sun has passed and the world has shifted back to balance the global power system.

Pretty much. Trump is just us waking up to the realization that the US empire has been declining since Iraq. In time, US will become a regional power, in the same model as Russia, a large country with nukes, third world status.

>>136814585
Commies cant be honorary aryans you gigantic FAGGOT

>>136822986
I don't think Americans actually care about any of those places.

No one is going to lose sleep over not being able to dominate shitty 3rd world countries that are either irrelevant or hate us.

The best thing for us would be to lose our connection with Israel and then let the Chinese have Asia.

Invading the USA would basically be impossible. We were never meant to be an Empire in the first place. Its unnatural for a Republic

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>>136815639
>Been looking for a long ass time
They released it yesterday

>>136810982
It takes like one B-2 bomber to reduce all of NK to ash

>>136823092
We've been placating the NORKs for decades because of the Korean War. We should have did to them like we did to Japan and nuked them to set an example. At the very least the Japanese got their shit together after the 2nd shelling.

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OP this is how your idea really goes
1) NK fires nuke at America
2) 10 minutes later, a single ballistic missile sub stationed 1000's of miles away turns NK into a wasteland for 1000 years. Doesn't matter if China doesn't like it.

Not very exciting to debate, but how it would go down.

>>136810982
>t. little kim jong un
Hmmm

>>136810982
>What is an Ohio class ballistic missile submarine
The US has 14 of these boats. Each has 24 SLBM tubes. Each tube holds a ballistic missile with multiple independently targeted warheads. At any one time, several Ohio class submarines are on patrol far from US shores, ready to fire their missiles. North Koreans would all die in fire if they did something as stupid as launch a missile towards the US with hostile intent.

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>>136813216
If we go by that retarded logic they'd have launched their missiles already.

>>136823335
No retard. I saw that video in 2015. The video itself was released way earlier can't you see by the quality? Are you dumb senpai?

>>136823273
>The Americans have contrived to be surrounded on two sides by weak neighbors and on two sides - by fish!
-Bismark

>>136814857
It can be hard to occupy, but the infrastructures would be destroyed to a crisp.

>>136816341
It's to imitate his grandfather.

>>136819732
but they are.
the whole "you can't have a standing army" thing was based on the premise that the US are their military now.

Can Trump pull off the Ron Paul pipe dream and exit America from its entangling alliances abroad without getting millions of people killed?

Can we just go back to our isolationist turtle shell and kick out all the nonwhites? We can make everything here ourselves. We don't need anyone

>>136822986
You do realize that if "our moment in the sun has passed" So has yours, right? Lmao.

We're not talking about America clinging to "Imperialism" You really think we give a fuck? Strongest military in the world. We could pull our troops in, close our boarders, and Isolate. The world would be scared shitless.

We aren't in every corner of the world for LUL IMPURLISM. We're in every corner of the world so that Russia doesn't Annex you, and you aren't punching shit out of plastic molds for 40c/hour like a 12 year old chinese kid.

Your only examples of US Military "Failures" are theater wars to help our closest allies acquire resources. You can't even handle the refugees, You think you could push back Russia? Or even US? Lol. Look at how strong Israel and Saudi Arabia are right now. Doesn't look like a failure to me.

What ungrateful cunts. We're trying to uphold the balance of power and western values against the kremlin, and godless sociopaths like the Chinese, and you think we're attempting conquest. We're literally the only thing standing between you and a breadline.

>>136822986
Yeah right, Russia has the 13th GDP in the world, virtually 1/5 our man power and there spending all there money on trying to maintain there stockpile, the annexation of Crimea will let you know how boxed in putin feels, he even admits it in those interviews he did with Oliver stone, and they threaten us first. like holy shit, how bad it must be to be a island nation

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>>136810982
>Nuke the gook
Trump is going to write his name in the history books, and it will be in Nork blood and ash. Enjoy your final days Kimberly.

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>>136810982

>Escalating North Korea conflict
>China is forced to cut some ties with U.S or lose political sway
>The cut in trade cuts U.S companies from buying cheap Chinese cap
>China realizes it needs the U.S more than the U.S needs it
>yfw it's 6 gorillion-D chess on Trump's part

>>136823351
I said that earlier, we should've handled this 50 years ago

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>>136822985
100% this.

>>136811452
You're an idiot. China relies on Trade with the US as much as we rely on them.

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>>136812301
Kek. please kim. Launch about 10 their way

>>136813397
Lol you underestimate how fickle lberals are. For like two months after 9/11, only the absolutely most cucked top 5% of liberals weren't all in on revving up the war machine. Dems know every voter even somewhat in the middle would be out for blood and they can't win without them. If they opposed a retaliation after that kind of attack, they would get swept in every state and national election for 20 years and never recover. When shit actually hits the fan, a ton of people have their liberal un-education turned off for a while until they feel safe again.If NK attacked civilians on US soil, people would cheer racial slurs while Pyongyang burned.

>>136823530
Exactly again

>>136823801
>China = Worlds biggest exporter

>USA = Worlds biggest importer

China will find new trading partners like the EU and Russia, they are literally building a new silk road that will cost trillions

Also remind me what kind of industry the USA has to actually export anything to anyone?
Thank god for mindless capitalistic consumerism.

>>136816833
Who cares? People were killed in wars throughout the whole history of humanity. Rotten peace, as comfortable as it is, can only go on for so long.
The conclusion is, if there is a war, the loss won't be that harmful for the US

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>>136823578

Russia spends the same per capita on their military as the Netherlands, they operate on a tiny budget and have achieved so much compared to what the US has managed to do.

Barack Obama best foreign policy president EVER

>>136817956
>jungle
>capital city climate data monthly temp similar to Chicago
>jungle with average high below freezing in winter

>>136813397
Nuke the chinks race war now

>>136823530

Yeah the reds are going to take over Europe, that's why the French are getting close to Russia, the breakup of the US system has already begun, the Saudis are a great result of US policy, only good things has come from them, they are taking after you, getting BTFO by peasants in Yemen and right now they are having to try and quell a Shia uprising in their own country.

>>136823655
This is the right move. The might shall prevail for the future of the world, stop being such a fag and fight

>>136817031
Old corvettes and patrol boats. A single fleet with a destroyer and/or a nice air-to-sea squad would annihilate it easily

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>>136822549
This. Kim is just trying to stay alive. He has seen what happened to Saddam, Qaddafi, and Al-Assad.
>Saddam give up your weapons!
>>Fuck no
Gets killed
>Qaddafi give up your weapons!
>>Ok I will
Gets drone striked
>Al-Assad give up your weapons!
>>I already did
Gets invaded

The nuclear weapons are Kim's key to survival.

>>136824270
Russia is no longer red. Statues of the kike masters are getting publicly destroyed
ΕΛΛΑΣ ΡΩΣΣΙΑ ΟΡΘΟΔΟΞΙΑ

>>136812987
just like my animes

>>136817603
Straight to the point. This international peace was great for the globalization of economies. A war would rattle it if and make Trump lose popularity