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/pol/ communism general 2017-08-10 08:19:08 Post No. 136804303
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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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>oh look the gommies that never use facts and post pig anime people
>still hasn't gotten a job
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Your big visions always crumble when you have to come up with actual plans, concepts or policy to enforce communism. You complain about not having a huge house in capitalism, while people in communism starved to death over and over again.
Your idealistic view blinds you from the problems that need to be solved, so much, that you ignore that you haven't figured out food production.
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Hello gomrades! X_DDddDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of ebin revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. X_-DDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :-DDDDd
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all FUG. When capitalists run away we win and I gill you all. Eventually the fungtions of state stob and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/hiwherearethefood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
https://www.islamiggommunism.gom/
Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :-DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. (BENIS :_DD)
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage 4
Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry. problems werent. :-DDdd
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FUCK OFF WE ARE PRO-EU BOARD.
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Oh look late stage capitalism is here far away from their safe space subreddit, which has a rule of "no questioning or else ban!"
These soft weenied cucks.
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>>136805120
People also starve in capitalism, Africa still exists just like Venezuela. I had no home for a few years under capitalism and many of my friends and family have suffered under this system. I previously lived under communism and no it wasn't perfect but it wasn't shit either and I much prefer it back.
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>>136808341
Where are you from comrade?
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>>136809028
I am from the sovjet union. Which till this day hope that it will come back.
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>>136805260
god bless kaasland! o7
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>>136808341
The reasons why people starve in Africa are vastly different compared to the reasons why people starve under communism. Communists don't need natural disasters and they would support taking land from white farmers.
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reminder the primary reason /pol/fags are so hostile to revolutionary socialism is not for pragmatic or economic reasons. it is because they will be forced to reconsider their crippling porn addictions
all of them are liberals at heart
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>>136810225
What happens in Africa is an aftershock of imperialism. They relocate resources, from the country sucking it completly dry, and capitalists just boast about there system because they have more immigration. You took from their lands, there is nothing left there. Their were famines in russia before communism came, from what I know. Death caused by famines decreased when you compare the two Era's.
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>>136808341
if anything it's lack of capitalist imperialism that's fucked them over.
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>>136810697
The whole reason Zimbabwe is a shithole is because of a Soviet funded Marxist government. Before, during the Empire, it had the best living conditions in Africa for blacks.
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>>136805260
Bless you toothpaste bro.
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>>136810697
I'm sorry, do we import food from Africa or are we sending food aid through the UN? The african countries with more exports have less hunger-related deaths. Especially now.
> You took from their lands, there is nothing left there.
Do we fucking take away the dirt, Africans use to plant their plants? Please stop repeating the zero-sum-propaganda
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>>136811219
capitalist country's and corporations take more then they give via corruption and evasion of tax
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>>136811089
mugabe is a social democrat, he only had infuences of marxist-leninism. i cant see these two ideology's working together which is probably why it became worse and worse.
most of the problems of the left as i see it right now is that there are too many "middleways" trying too appeal too capitalism which is an insult to the communist thought.
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This is the best map for Europe, this is how it should look like, prove me wrong.
Protip: you can't !
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>>136810697
You need to see this vid bro
https://youtu.be/cCbqVkjIZA8
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Communism is pure evil.
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>>136816896
Communism is harmony.
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FAQ for washed liberal-morons, kekistani egdelord teenagers and normal people who simply do not know much about communism:
1. Communism is the USSR.
The USSR is a socialist state, not a communist state.
2.1. Why, then, does the Communists all the time refer to the USSR?
Because the USSR is our historical experience of the practical construction of a communist society. We highlight the positive aspects of the experience of the USSR and study the negative experience. It is also worthwhile to understand that the USSR is for us a certain significant Symbol.
2.2 Communism is a dictatorship
Under communism there are no classes, accordingly there is no dictatorship.
3. What about the dictatorship of the proletariat?
The dictatorship of the proletariat is a temporary form of political power called upon to ensure the observance of the rights of the proletariat during the transition from capitalist society to communism.
4. But Stalin ...
With regard to the period of Stalin's rule, we can identify a lot of positive and negative aspects of his activities. But unfortunately, all-round propaganda has distorted the history of this period too much, therefore, without a comprehensive historical analysis of this period, it is impossible to draw unambiguous conclusions on the basis of ALL declassified documents.
5. And yet Stalin ...
We adequately perceive the figure of Stalin and treat him normally and without hysteria. Nevertheless, Stalin - though significant, but by no means the main figure of the communist movement.
6. What is the main figure, if not Stalin?
Marx
7. Ie you are not Communists, but Marxists?
Communism is part of Marx's teaching. At present, Marx's teaching has evolved into many directions. As for the precise definition, the terms "Communist" and "Marxist" often very much depend on the context.
8. Communism is the antithesis of democracy.
By no means. Communism is just a true democracy.
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9. Under communism - all work in the Gulag for workdays on 24/7.
On the contrary, the Communists set their task to reduce the number of working hours, by increasing the productivity of labor. Ideally, we should work for 4 hours in fully automated production, the remaining time dedicated to self-development, art, hobby.
10. But wait! This is a capitalistic post-industrial one!
You are deeply mistaken my young friend. This is precisely communism. And under capitalism you will not get it. Communism is the highest stage of development of society and economy and if capitalism is similar to what I described above, then it turns into communism.
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