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Jews sliding the board in full force tonight. /r9k/ betas backing them up.

We live in an hypersexualized society. Women behave like wild animals, and men (if they can't do the same) are porn addicted freaks. It isn't everybody, but these are big problems for our media-saturated, hypersexualized society.

A white nationalist looks at these problems and says "How can we be part of a solution that is good for whites."

A jew brainwashed goy stooge says "hurr durr fuck women are evil and stupid I hate white women and white famiiles. All women are irredeemable cheating sluts like these images jews show me on the internet."

White men and white women need to abandon this degenerate lifestyle, and seek to come together for the future of the race and our civilization. Be a part of the solution, /pol/. Not a part of the problem. Divide and conquer.
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>>136800706
Bumping
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These salty virgins and edgy try hards need to learn the truth.
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>>136800706
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> "muh you a v1rg1n anon, bEtter man up and help the wh1te race"
The West is done, wait for the collapse, then rebuild and don't give women the right to vote.
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>>136800706
Have a bump.
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>>136801233
I've never been called a manchild for quitting a rigged game before. Please come up with something original
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>>136801358
>Jews and mudsharks are conspiring to make you successful in life
>You can "win" by being a degenerate, childish loser your whole life instead

Seems legit
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>>136800706

Every low IQ nigger gets just one

Previously be beta faggot

>find TRP, Briffault's Law, read his title thesis The Mother's, A theory of Matriarchal Origins
>Everything aligns on female behaviour, women love Chad's, the rent seeking Communist state because women inherently love to impose Communism on men
>The academics before the Liberal establishment Orwellian rewrite also hated women with the passion of a thousand Suns, Example British Romanticism

The Christian Ronaldo path is best for someone that isn't a low IQ nigger like the OP. You can have white high IQ children, filter out inferior genetics and avoid compromising your social economic sovereignty to a thot because her pussy is the only fucking gateway to reproduction

>OP s a salty nigger who's mad he got married
>low IQ beta cucks also want to drag others who aren't suffering like they are, into some sort of degenerate normalcy

To bad OP is to stupid to realize the modern girl is a crowd sourced prostitute, unfit for marriage, the responsibilities of child rearing or the sustainment of virtue, where in this society there are none.

Also

>if you look at the white nationalist movement, almost all of their leaders have yellow fever or are marrying any women except those from the West

KYS beta faggots
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MGTOW seems so dramatic. What about just doing your own thing for the moment, not looking for the one, living your life organically. Then one day meet this girl who sparks your interest and begin a romance. Because you are somewhat set in your ways, your life, your job, she sees you as a strong provider type, but she has everything she needs too, she doesn't need a provider. The empty part of her life is her love life and the same for you, so you begin a romantic relationship and figure out what works for you. Don't seek hos then complain that hos be hos. Focus on yourself a little while and figure out what you really want in life and a life partner.
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>>136800706
Yes good goy, man up and be a slave to women, give all your money to women, support women, surely this will make a better society for (((us)))
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>>136800706
>>136801233
>>136801787
God just fuck off
I'm not even a really loud, vocal MGTOW. I'm just so, SO fucking tired of women. Interacting with them literally puts a strain on my mental health. Quit trying to force us to do something we don't want to do.
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>>136801675
>not fighting for a wholesome white woman and letting Tyrone slap his penis all over that
>t. Cucked manchild

Been seeing so many Pro-MGTOW posts lately; I was beginning to wonder if I stepped into /r9k/

MGTOW is for mentally underdeveloped manchildren who don't want to put in the effort to better themselves; it's as blue-pilled as your blue-balls
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>>136801675
It's not a rigged game it's a gamble, and the odds are determined by your ability to judge a woman's character. I've been married 29 years and have 5 grand kids. By the time you get to be my age and realize what really matters in life it will be too late. You will die a sad lonely man, who will probably off himself before old age.
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>>136801977
You're an old man who got married when things were not so bad

You have no idea what has happened since then
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>>136801974
>(((better themselves)))
>My definition of self-betterment is the only possible correct one
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>>136802072
I've watched my two boys date and marry good woman. I'm not saying it's easy but it's possible and the success or failure lies solely on your shoulders.
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>>136801358
>bing bing wahoo

how far has this meme spread?
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>>136802072
Yeah
Women wen to shit but decent women still exist out there

Fact: if both partners are virgins before they are married, they statistically have a 89% chance of a successful marriage and up to 75% report being happy with their marriage. Either partner having just one sexual partner beforehand drops that to 64% fidelity rate and 55% fulfillment rate

So, if you're not a virgin and don't take a virgin qt, you played yourself
Stop looking for proper suitors in bars and other degenerate places if you want a successful marriage
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>>136802237
>Gramps thinks his anecdotes mean shit
Adorable
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>>136801390
This guy gets it; also, hedge your bets.
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>>136802194
>sitting on my fatass being a helpless NEET and playing vidya all day is bettering myself
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>>136801977
I want nothing to do with women. I just want to die in my sleep
>>136801390
I couldn't agree more
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>>136800706
I think you are confusing the condemnation of whores and promiscuity with hatred of white women themselves. At the moment, we need white men to overthrow the current order. Most of the current female generation is lost, so it's about securing a decent society for a more moral crop of women to be raised.
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>>136802333
>All these worthless assumptions
1. Not a NEET
2. Don't play vidya all day
3. On track to graduate a year early from a top-15 university
And still not particularly interested in the woman meme
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>>136802345
So proving the point mgtow is a bunch of hopeless fools clinging to excuses. The problem is with yourself. Fix it or kys but stop spreading your misery around it has enough company already.
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>>136801942
Being anti-woman and anti-family is anti-white. Simple as that.

>Quit trying to force us to do something we don't want to
Don't you think this is a childish attitude to have? How old are you? If you're anti family, why do you even post here?
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>2017
>not just ditching working for this shit society
Lel.
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>>136802426
>going to memeiversity
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>>136802558
>/pol/ is one person
>le ebig unironic racism maymay
I'm not anti-family, guy, but the traditional family has been dead for decades. I'm not subjecting myself to some modern parody of it.
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>>136802559
>Just be broke and play vidya all day goyim! It's super cool, trust me!
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>>136802610
>Opponents of MGTOW are uneducated retards
See? I can make sweeping, unjustified generalizations too! Oh, sorry, honey, some of those words were probably too big for you.
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>>136802650
>Help you're oppressing me with responsibility that I don't like
Being a part of the white race means you work hard to found a healthy family.

>4chan told me it's impossible to find an honest woman so I'm just going to give up before I've even tried
Chances are women aren't really your biggest problem in life buddy
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>>136802741
You consider those to be big words? Way to blow your cover junior.
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>>136802835
>too big FOR YOU
You guys really ought to try college, they teach reading comprehension and everything
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>>136802741
Or you know... you can just buy the books that interest you and learn the same information from any university level school through personal study and create a business of your own

>paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for a piece of paper
>Wanting to not get fucked over by women and yet still get fucked over by something
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>>136802741
>Oh, sorry, honey
Advocates of MGTOW are catty, irresponsible, childish faggots
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>>136802830
>Being a part of the white race means you work hard to found a healthy family
Make me, faggot.
>>4chan told me it's impossible to find an honest woman so I'm just going to give up before I've even tried
Never really said this, my disdain for women is based on real-life experiences
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>>136802610
Seriously though, stay in school. Unless you get roped into a garbage scam degree, chances are your degree will still result in a much greater paycheck in many cases. It's not the only way to make a good living, but it's still often a wise investment. Jews shell out for uni too.
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>>136802927
Kek, I just knew I'd bait a /pol/tard by throwing that little tidbit in. So predictable
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MGTOW will save the West.


Modernity has birthed a generation of whores, incentivied by the Government to fuck men.
Any children birthed at this point will become degenerates. You will accelerate the collapse.

MGTOW build their wealth, their minds, their bodies, their resolves.
When the collapse come, we will survive, we will rebuild.


Have fun with the "wh1te rAce", I'll be living the good life until the collapse.
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>>136802968
>Make me, faggot.
>wahh, wahh, wahh, wahh DXDX

>my disdain for women is based on real-life experiences
Bullshit. You're like an atheist kid pretending they personally came up with all that stuff completely on their own, and aren't just copying a bunch of shit they heard on the internet.
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>>136802741
Mgtow is akin to trans and queers. You have the exact same mentality. "Accept my unnatural actions , I'm normal you're not. " You gonna have a mgtow pride parade too?

There's something mentally wrong with someone who wants to live alone and not share their life with a family of their own. When pleasure is derived from clicking a button all day or watching porn. If it wasn't so sick it'd be just sad.
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ITT: Triggered beta manchildren wanting to justify their sad pointless lonely lives of gayming and hentai fapping simply because they don't want to grow up

>>136801358
>but jews want us to get married and continue the white race!
>>136801390
>let's wait until the white race dies out so we can rebuild XDDD
>>136801906
>It's not even the jews who have been plotting to destroy us even though there are terabytes worth of supporting evidence that proves otherwise, NOPE it's just these roastie white women!


To say you autistic losers had shit for brains would be an insult to manure.
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>>136803059
>T'was merely an act!
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>>136803168
>>136803195
>Tradcucks just spout bullshit assumptions and conjecture upon the realization their worldviews don't universally translate
>There's something mentally wrong with someone who wants to live alone and not share their life with a family of their own.
That logic is incredibly flawed, especially given the diversity of MGTOW. It's far more likely that there's something fundamentally wrong with the modern state of marriage and the family than it is that every MGHOW is somehow unstable. We come from all walks of life, just like you.
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>>136803019
In all honesty
I finished my degree a long time ago. It was a good start up and got me on my feet but I eventually took the capital I accrued over working a few years in my career to start up my own business. I've been there done that and am living a pseudo-retired lifestyle all white providing jobs to people I think I worth their salt enough to earn a paycheck from me
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>>136803225
>>136803225
While it's tempting to virgin and beta shame them, it's better to appeal to their sense of duty to the race and their sense of personal responsibility. Trying to embarrass their (lack of) masculinity just triggers more euphoria. The goal isn't to make them feel bad about themselves. They'll reject that. The goal is to bring them into personal responsibility for the sake of racialism.
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>>136803251
>Hooked so hard you're attaching fedora pics and everything
More, please more
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>>136803368
>I've been there done that and am living a pseudo-retired lifestyle all white providing jobs to people I think I worth their salt enough to earn a paycheck from me
I hope they're all white except for your token Indian or slope, mate
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>>136803363
You all have one thing in common. You all refuse to take responsibility and cling to excuses for your sad lonely lives. It's always someone elses fault of why you have to be this way. What's next I was born this way?
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>>136803618
Because men always have to take responsibility despite it being literal and financial suicide.

You're an illogical moron anon, but I wish you luck.
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>>136803416
>p-post more hahahaha ;_;

You're only fooling yourself mate
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Females mate across and up authority hierarchies. The problem is that the media (and in most Western countries, the government) are saturated with Marxist victim hierarchies, so now there's a conflict between associating with victim hierarchies and mating in regards to authority and social hierarchies, so they choose and "authoritative" mate who shills for the victim hierarchies. Examples of this are Trudeau and Obama, which is partly why they were elected. In fact I think womens' political ideologies has very little to do with actual ideas and more to do with social engineered hierarchies perpetuated by media and government...
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>>136803738
Taking responsibility for ones own actions is the first step to becoming a man.
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>>136800706
fuck u jew. i will never get the sloppy seconds of tyrone or chad. i have left behind all women. i am now a perfect spiritual being. i no longer fap. i reabsorb my semen and it gives me energy and strength. when tension builds, i fuck my fleshlight. i have no need for a woman. i cook, clean, take care of myself and enjoy my life. fuck women and fuck "white people." they have shown me where their allegiance is, and i have changed mine as well: to myself.

MGTOW for Life. Long live the Cuck-Free Lifestyle.
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>>136803738
>Always
Up until (((feminism))) really cranked into gear in the courts, it was women who got the short stick. Now men face discrimination in the legal system, but it is the greater earner in the relationship who really stands to get robbed in the current marital laws, man or woman.

>Trusting another person is literal suicide! AGHHHH I hate roasties!!!
You've got alot of growing up to do man
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>>136803416
>I AM LE MASTER RUSEMAN LULZ
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MGTOW identifies the problem, but has the wrong solution. The worst solution actually.

To seriously imply that there are no marriage worthy women in the world is bullshit and anyone who unironically thinks this probably doesn't have any genes worth saving anyways.

The true redpill about women is that they are pliable. As long as they haven't been dicked yet (and even some who have been dicked are still salvageable, and may be worth the effort) they will be pliable to your will. This goes both ways because they will mold themselves to the strongest "will" available. Nowadays this is degenerate Chads, other women and the big brother state.

Be the strongest person in her life and she will be your voluntary slave. You will probably have to isolate outside influences to a minimum.

From there have many children and raise them in isolation from degenerates.

>>136803397
Absolutely, there are good men who are dropping out of society because they don't see a point. We need to help them understand the higher ideals that will give them purpose, they all want meaning deep down.
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>>136803794
Neat. Flesh that out and put it on youtube or somewhere
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>>136803981
lol
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>>136804274

desu. i am right. i cannot be cucked. there is no in between: you are either a cuck, going to be cucked or will never be a cuck (because of MGTOW of virginal waifu).

We quit.
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>>136804164
>The true redpill about women is that they are pliable. As long as they haven't been dicked yet (and even some who have been dicked are still salvageable, and may be worth the effort) they will be pliable to your will.

That's very true, but also don't promote niggardly contempt for women to compensate for a lack of personal self esteem. We are promoting healthy, longterm partnerships, not "finding an inferior creature to dominate unilaterally and impose your will upon."

>she will be your voluntary slave
Dude...
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>>136804337
>We quit.(tm)

Put down your Ayn Rand teenager novel and get a job. Stop repeating jewish catchphrase propaganda bullshit.
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>>136804385
That was hyperbolic. Perhaps I should have used the word servant. Women like to serve, it's in their nature.
It's not about domination either, it's about leading and guiding women to their full potential.
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>>136803955
>Taking responsibility for ones own actions is the first step to becoming a man.
> Implies what women did is my fault
> Implies I have to take responsibility for a useless whore
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>>136800706
>4chan
>White lives matter
BTFO shill
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>>136803994
I'd venture to say most if not all mgtow had working moms. When woman became a mainstay in the workforce the job of raising kids was passed to strangers at a daycare. Your most precious resource learning everything from a complete stranger. Genes were no match for environment. It was a major success for the jewish plan to destroy the white race. The only stay at home moms these days it seems are are uneducated welfare queens with multiple baby daddy's. They don't stand a chance.
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>>136800706
Everything isn't jewish shilling. The jews are scum and does overall have a negative impact on the world, but they don't control the world and they don't push MGTOW.

Personally I don't care any more. I doubt that there's an actual fix. The brainwashing is too deep. Just let it burn and after that maybe you can try to fix things.
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>>136803994
> Always
It has always been men who took responsibility.
It must have been so hard to be a house-wife, their husbands who worked 9-5 really had it easy back then.

Now men need to fix the fuck-ups of giving women "responsibility". Fuck that, they're our "equals"; therefore their fuck ups are their problem.
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>>136804561
>Perhaps I should have used the word servant
I mean, again. You're giving off completely the wrong idea here. You want a partner, someone you can trust, and someone you can live with for decades. Telling young guys to go into relationships with the idea "she's your slave, she's your servant," that's just not the foundation of happy families. The word is "partner." You're looking for a "partner" you can share your life with.
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>>136803955
Then the logic behind that should be to just live your life the way you want, and if it helps save civilization then so be it.
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>>136804638
Yep. The jewluminati's primary control mechanism over the goyim is economic. We are all basically relatively well paid slaves to (((their))) monetary system. When they want to undercut our quality of life and debase our currencies, force both parents to work because shit suddenly costs more, who can stop them? They killed JFK for a reason.
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>>136804733
>they don't push MGTOW.
That's where you're absolutely wrong. They pushed feminism to break up white men and women, and now they're pushing MGTOW to do the same on the other end. Shit like MGTOW doesn't just "come from nowhere." There's money and power behind it. That's why it grows, that's why it's "a thing." When "a things" like OWS pop up that the elite don't like, they vanish. MGTOW is their baby, just like feminism. They both literally serve the exact same agenda.
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>>136804615
Read my first post. You lack the ability to find a good woman. You can't fix something if you don't acknowledge it and take responsibility for it. Good woman exist, ffs I raised one.
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>>136800706
>Shilling

False rape accusations and divorce scare the hell out of me. I've witnessed friends destroyed by both. I'd rather not get married if divorce laws remain the way they do.
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Fact of the matter is. Shaming will not bring MGTOW back. Those individuals have come to expect it.

Either come up with a viable solution or except the most logical path and cut your loses.
The collapse cannot be stopped, we will rebuild a stronger society in its place.

Better prepare yourself anons.
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>>136804879
That's not what mgtow is doing though is it? No they are constantly making excuses and blaming others. They are trying to normalize their behavior as well as trying to convert others. As I mentioned before it is an awful lot like the trans and queer movement. That alone should make you guys question who is pushing this.
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>>136804948
It seems to be very organic. I've followed that community for almost two years although I'm not part of it. Maybe there might be a few shills but I doubt there're many of them.

You haven't shown any evidence for it btw.

>Shit like MGTOW doesn't just "come from nowhere." There's money and power behind it. That's why it grows, that's why it's "a thing." When "a things" like OWS pop up that the elite don't like, they vanish.
The relationship between men and women is already so dysfunctional. You don't need to put money behind something like MGTOW. Again show proof if you have any.
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>>136804997
You raised a shitskin whore. If she sucked cock or fucked before marrying, she's a slut.
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>>136804948
>and now they're pushing MGTOW
Proofs?
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>>136805193
It literally is. It's about not chasing women and improving yourself, to turn life down from HARD to MEDIUM mode and enjoying our short time here.
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>>136801787
Boycotting women does not mean to be a loser, it even helps too pursue your goals.
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>>136805267
Same playbook different players. Destruction of the nuclear family has always been the goal. Question any movement that subverts the nuclear family and you will easily begin to see the pattern and their whole playbook.
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>>136804771
>Here's my opinion of traditional culture that I've completely fabricated arbitrarily by browsing /r9k/ on 4chan

Society has never been fair. Society has never been equal. The entire reason jews were able to push cultural marxism so hard was because there were legitimate social injusticies and inequalities that white men recognized for themselves, and took sympathy about.

Life was hard for men, and for women. Being a man doesn't make your life great, and being a woman doesn't make your life shit. Being rich makes your life great, and being poor makes your life shit.

>Now men need to fix the fuck-ups of giving women "responsibility". Fuck that, they're our "equals"; therefore their fuck ups are their problem.
For some reason I can't believe you are a responsible or competent person in your own life. You sound like- no, you almost certainly ARE a very bitter and isolated person who is projecting his insecurities onto women as a whole because of jewish propaganda programs you've gotten sucked into through 4chan. I honestly want to help you and I don't know what I can tell you except: get over this insecure bullshit about women, and grow up a little. Life isn't fair and it never has been.
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>>136804783
Men and women should not be "equal" in a relationship. They never were historically, and God never intended it that way.

This doesn't mean that you treat women like shit however, not even close. Women should be treated like a child, with love and care, but also a firm hand (not literally) when necessary.

Using the word "partner" may be equally destructive as then young men get into relationships with women with the idea that they can be treated as equals. Maybe this would be possible if the world wasn't as subversive as it is, but today you need to control a lot of aspects of the family to ensure it's survival. You have to be in control of who their friends are for example.
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>>136805122
>muh collapse
More like gradual decline. Too many institutions to hold this degenerate world together is my guess. People always talk about the great collapse but it never comes, but I guess if you keep repeating it eventually you will be right.
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>>136805400
That's not a proof. There were dozens of Jewish feminists while I don't know of any Jews who actually speak positively of MGTOW.
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>>136800706
Fuck you and fuck the white race. I'm all that matters to me.
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>>136805500
And how many years after the feminist movement was it discovered the Jews were behind it? They subvert.
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>>136805400
That's not proof. It's a natural consequence of our situation. You might say that what a lot of jews did lead to the current situation, but that's not the same as saying that MGTOW is jewish shilling. Similarly, you could say that what the jews did pre-NatSoc Germany lead to NatSoc Germany but that doesn't mean that the jews were behind NatSoc Germany.
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>>136805417
Men lead and women follow. That's the natural order and it is typically the dynamic that will develop. But that's not the prerequisite. The prerequisite is that you are able to trust one another and communicate well, and share responsibilities for yourselves, your children, and the race. All of that is more important than establishing your superiority as a man and micromanaging her life out of mistrust. That's just egotistical bullshit. Healthy relationships are built on trust, not control.
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>>136805624
Was always quite obvious. Jews were always leaders in the feminist movement.
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>>136805624
So you're saying there is no proofs? Also:
>every movement that doesn't fall in line with my worldview is the Jews
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>>136801974
>wholesome white woman
Those don't exist anymore. Feminism has ruined an entire generation.
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>>136805700
It was also 100 years ago. There are numerous ways that jews can manipulate culture without openly exposing their big schnozes to the public. It's absolutely reasonable to suspect jews are behind this MGTOW bullshit. It's almost certainly not a true grassroots thing.
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In EVERY MGTOW thread you get the same discourse:

1) Inexperienced but horny kiddos think every guy just want to fuck anything that moves and the entirety of social interaction revolves around fucking and MGTOWs are fat autistic virgin neckbeards who can't get laid.

2) Actual MGTOWs who are experienced grown men who are warning about the dangers of women + the state vs you, and how you can be easily taken for all you've got.

3) The "Yes, thats right goy - dont reproduce" jew shills - yes JEW SHILLS. The thing (((they))) want you to do is YES reproduce children to a raving tinder psycho / bar slut who will NEVER grow up and you will be raising her as well as your kids until she bails on you and takes half your shit after dragging you through divorce court.

The jew agenda is NOT to stop whites reproducing, its to produce a WEAKER generation with poor parents so the state can become the new parents. No reproduction means no goy-cows for milking. Why the fuck would (((they))) not want a new generation of tax-slaves? (((They))) own the banking system AND the law courts / judicial process.

(((The agenda))) is all about making money from broken individuals from broken families - NOT stopping reproducing.

MGTOW is redpilled because its men refusing to get fucked over by the jew system - and (((they))) are worried. (((They))) are worried that (((they))) have pushed the feminist "high maintenance woman" meme too far and thought men would become pussyfied slaves to nagging bitches and never thought men would just go their own way.
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>>136802291
>Stop looking for proper suitors in bars and other degenerate places if you want a successful marriage
Ok anon, so where do you find proper suitors in this day and age? Enlighten me.
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>>136805769
Yea, and I bet you're a fucking saint, man. Get over your insecurities. Quit watching porn. Get your life together, and find an honest woman you can trust.

>>136804164
>To seriously imply that there are no marriage worthy women in the world is bullshit and anyone who unironically thinks this probably doesn't have any genes worth saving anyways.
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>>136805800
>It's almost certainly not a true grassroots thing.
It is. I've followed it quite closely for the last two years and it certainly looks like a grassroots movement. Still quite small but it's growing. Just a consequence of our situation.
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>>136805800
Sure suspect all you want. Just don't throw around your suspicions like they're fact with no prooof.
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>>136805409
I'm NewFag, so no, I haven't been brainwashed by 4Chan Jews. I just had the mental capacity to research characteristics of human reproduction (hypergamy, briffault's law law, etc).

You have no solutions, just your attempts at shaming me.
I wish you luck in life anon, I hope you find happiness despite the fucked legislation.
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>>136805800
Watch this video, mice naturally go MGTOW when placed in a utopia.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAH_ZCQ6pmM
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>>136805839
He's gonna say at church.
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>>136805834
The (((elite))) absolutely do not want whites having children right now. That's an extremely clear theme of the current agenda.

But yes, it's not like white civilization was all that hard for them to subvert and conquer, or that another dysfunctional white family is going to really pose any threat to their system just because they're white.

But to use that as a reason to promote "don't have kids goyim" is silly. The goal is to have quality white families, not just white families. There's honest women who genuinely want children. And god bless them for it. The real question is: are you capable of being a quality father, yourself.
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>>136806039
Those mouse went herbivore not MGTOW. Similar effect but it's completely different.
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>>136806002
At this point in time it's almost on you to prove it's NOT jews behind this shit.
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>>136806039
>doesn't post the original experiment video
>posts some beta male e-kike that you expect us to watch

Fuck off retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM
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>>136805834
This is 100% accurate. I would also like to note that many people seem to think MGTOW means don't get laid or talk to women, but that's not what it is at all.
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>>136800706
I fucking hate your antisemitism but from a cultural preservation standpoint your reasoning against MGTOW is fucking spot on.
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>>136800706
>work in drug store pharmacy as a cashier
>Almost every 3rd customer is in for some STD
>Talk with people before dating. I ask "do you have any STD's?" almost half the time I get radio silence. I get a lot of "that's none of your business" (yes. it is).
>tonight I picked up Valtrex (for herpes) for a 13 year old female with her mom. They both looked like they had not a care in the world.

I just want off this ride. I want a normal female. I want a family. I don't want to deal with STD's. I don't want to deal with females with 1,000 cock stare.
>all the females I work with in the drug store are degenerates. They call men "Kleenex" and think I don't know their code. "I blew my nose 3 times last night. I have to stop drinking" = I blew 3 guys last night. No mention if she had sex with them but I can assume she did.

I can't wait for Jesus to return and start over.
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>>136806128
>I have no evidence for my claim so now you must prove the opposite because reasons
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>>136805680
You have to share the same values. Some of your goals can be different but the means in which you seek to achieve those goals must be the same. When two people have the same values all it takes is for each spouse to put the needs of the other first. A deeper love grows and there is no need to put yourself first because your wants and needs are always being put first by your mate. The best part, Malice can not exist in that environment.
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>>136805890
My life is together, I'm starting a business, and publishing a book that will make me a lot of money. I live by myself, and work for myself. I'm 28, and perfectly happy. I've come across enough shallow whores to have become very disheartened in modern women.

>hurr durr like you're a saint
Sorry, but you won't guilt trip me into ruining my life by marrying and becoming a provider for some basic bitch who will spend all my money, and turn my kids against me, and that's the best case scenario. The fact of the matter is that 99% of women today don't deserve a good man. I'm honestly just better off at this point making a lot of money, continuing to get jacked, and getting my fix with escorts until robot waifus are a thing. Then getting a surrogate mother, and genetically engineering my children to be god-like.
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>>136805839
1) Get off the internet
2) Have a social life off the internet
3) Meet girls through social connections at school or work. Let it be known you're single and looking
4) Date girls who are interested.

Pretty sad that guys need this explained to them. You just get out there and meet women. It's not hard. Single women want guys to approach them. So do it. Even if you choke at first, and even if some girls are mean to you about it, you'll get it eventually. Girls aren't that complicated. Just be not ugly and basically socially competent. It does helps if you're funny, rich, handsome, or tall. But hey. It's not like you guys are out trying to find ugly girls to date in the first place, right?
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>>136805680
>Healthy relationships are built on trust, not control.
I don't disagree. Trust doesn't grow on trees however, and today's world is a minefield. How do you earn their trust to the point where they will reject negative outside influence, before they are subverted?
>establishing your superiority
It's not about that at all, it's about protecting.
>micromanaging her life out of mistrust.
It's not mistrust. It's the same reason you don't leave your valuable metal items out in the rain, preventative maintenance. You don't need to micromanage her life either, you just need the ability to take the wheel when necessary.
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>>136800706
"Yes Nations,"
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>>136806050
I know he is, and he doesn't know what he's talking about. I was raised Catholic, and most girls in this country are "Catholic" yet Spanish women are some of the most sexually open women in Europe.
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>>136806223
Mate you're projecting male love to women. Women don't love men the same way men love women. Men are prone to sacrificing themselves for others while women are prone to taking advantage of that. The only people that they love selflessly is themselves and their children.
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>>136806388
Spain is cucked beyond belief. Can you even talk to a woman without going to jail there?
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>>136806274
> dUn w0rry an0n, y0u'll f1nd the r1ght one 4 U
<3
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>>136800706

How can you make men interested in marriage when all the cultural conditions go against this?

It's not shills you idiot, it's male revolt. It isn't like people want don't want to settle down with a good girl, it's that people from the whole world came to a consensus that all women are whore. Don't matter the country you are, men are still in agreement with that.
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>>136806072
>are you capable of being a quality father, yourself.
Yes, definitely.

The problem with having kids in this society is:
Where do they get educated? - In (((school))). Its noteducation, its indoctrination.
Where do they get healthcare? At an NHS (((doctors))) office where they'll be prescribes a variety of shite that will make them "better".
Where do they get spiritual development? At (((church))). They will stray further from truth than embrace it.
Where do they get entertained? (((Hollywood))) (((MTV))) (((Media))) etc etc.

Society is fucked and not good for my kids. It makes people mentally and physically ill.

There is nothing motivating me to even attempt to raise kids in this society. You have to adhere to these rules like sending them to school to get indoctrinated and are therefore getting "cucked" as you guys say.

They are not your kids they are the states
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>>136806274
>stop shaming me ;_;
You deserve to be shamed, frankly. Anti-white, beta manchildren don't deserve to be respected.
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If you want those men to have white kids, start promoting surrogate mothers, not MARRIAGE. Because this shit is not gonna happen under the cultural conditions of our age. Unless you can moralize those wild whores, you aren't convincing anyone of doing this retarded shit.
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>>136806509
There are solutions for every single one of those. If you were even remotely serious about the 14 words you would have realized that.
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>>136806291
> be not ugly

How?
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>>136806522

WRONG. Beta man are stable man, who make good loving and dedicated fathers. Omega males are the ones that don't deserve to be respected.
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Lmao stormtards are such idealistic and ineffective idiots
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So how about we fuck off marriage and just use surrogacy? Better genes that way too.
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>>136806072
In western society you literally have to kidnap yor own kids to keep them from the degenerate culture we are surrounded by.

If you do that you can get arrested and have your kids taken into social care for neglect.

If you want to be a good father - you will be perceived as an enemy to the state.
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>>136806394
I'm speaking from experience. Before we were allowed to be married in the church we had to do counseling sessions. That was the best advice we ever got. We both took it to heart and made an effort to do it, it doesn't happen over night but with the right person it does happen. Which goes back to my first post itt about lacking the ability to pick the right girl. Saying th y don't exist is a cop out
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>>136800706
hahahaha good thing i'm fucking gay, i wouldn't want to be this pathetic
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>>136806651
Guys have it easier when it comes to looks most of the time, contrary to what MGTOW victims want you to think. If you're not comfortable batting above your level, find some homely girls. Everybody is ugly when they get old, anyway. You need to get over that. You don't build relationships based on what you think of how somebody looks. That's shallow.
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>>136806601
Not in the UK.

You'll get arrested for neglect if you try to homeschool your kids.

You "can" homeschool your kids, like you "are allowed", but if you try, they'll get taken into social care
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>>136806727
With what is statistically Russian Roulette with a double barrel shotgun. That's a shit solution.
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>>136806727
Nobody says they don't exist. They're just rare as fuck today. I'd say around 5% are decent which still leaves 95% of men with trash. Saying "just find the right one" is shitty advice for most men since it's impossible for most of them.
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>>136806291
>1) Get off the internet
>2) Have a social life off the internet
>3) Meet girls through social connections at school or work. Let it be known you're single and looking
>4) Date girls who are interested.
Did that, and have been for years. Fact of the matter is that most women are pretty low tier and uninstersting. I'm the dude with the red pants. You see the two girls in the middle, I fucked both of them. To assume that most of us who have become jaded are like this because we're unattractive and don't get any poon os ridiculous. I get a lot of poon, and the number of girls who have cheated on their bfs with me has put me off dating for good.

Fact of the matter is, doesn't matter how "alpha" you are, you will get cheated on. Women live in a world where they can have their cake and eat it too. I'd much rather ride solo and make tons of money desu. There are no reliable partners afaik. I'll keep the white race going through a surrogate mother, when I'm economically ready to have kids.
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>>136806800
It was always the problem for me. Looks.
Just because I am not hot girls don't accept any kind of initiation from me. They would say 'I am here with friend', ' I have a bf', ' Sorry, not my type'.
On the internet they just wouldn't respond. Those who respond, like my personality but won't go to dates.

I tried a fake Tinder account with an 8/10 dude. Wew it was so easy.

Its a curse for me.
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>>136806462
If you're good looking yes, just like anywhere else.
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>>136800706
Bump
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>>136800706
>yes goy, get married and spend all your money on a (((Diamond Ring))) but first make sure she's a (((Good woman)))
People who hate on MGTOW are the real jews, prove me wrong.
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>>136801358
Women will racemix more if more white men go MGTOW. Also, you don't have to marry and share your property to have a stable family, just have the balls to keep the women in check.

>>136801390
>wait for the collapse

It will be too late you spineless faggot, act while you still can.
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>>136807106
>prove me wrong

You are a LEAF
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>>136800706

I just prefer Asians desu
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>>136800706
>that pic
Cannot stop to kek
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>>136807160
>Also, you don't have to marry and share your property
Have you heard of common law? In most western countries it's impossible to cohabitate with a woman for an extended period of time without being considered as husband and wife by the state. Also if you have children you're gonna have to pay child support if/when she leaves you anyway.
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>>136800706
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>>136800706
>>136801233
Do you really think shame and namecalling is going to suddenly convince men who have been fucked over to "man up" and "save the white race"
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>>136807181
You are a fucking NANAIMO BAR
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>>136803164
>Any children birthed at this point will become degenerates.

Not if you're a strong father than can raise children properly according to your values. Stop being a weak willed cuck. Children these days are degenerate because they are either raised by degenerates or beta fathers
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>>136800706
Underrated thread.
Make white families great again.
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>>136800706
>MGTOW is a Jew conspiracy
Nah, just betas who do not take care of themselves give up on women.
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>>136807450
>Dude just marry a (((Good woman))) and be 100% alpha all the time, it's your fault for not being ALPHA ENOUGH
this is why men don't want to get married, it's not enough to be average or a good provider, you have to be 100% ALPHA ALL THE TIME with no off switch

fuck that

life is more comfortable without having to put on that charade
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>>136807636
Just don't be a fucking pussy leaf and be assertive. It is not that hard to do if you practice.
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>>136807362

keep this shit up trump

fuck that jew

MAGA
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>>136807736
I go to work 8 hours a day and I have to be "alpha"

I don't want to come home and have to keep up the same dancing monkey act of constantly being ALFA. If that's your solution, the white race is doomed because the only reason whites prospered in the first place was the construct of monogamy which ensured that productive, responsible beta males would have a loving wife and family. This is fucking civilization 101, faggot
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>>136807777
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>>136806851
No one goes into a relationship with 100% trust. Trust is earned. But you have to have a foundation of trust to build on. If the other person truly loves you and they see you are making an effort to put your needs above their own they begin to reciprocate. But it all starts with knowing what type of woman you are choosing.
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>>136807857
>I don't want to come home and have to keep up the same dancing monkey act of constantly being ALFA
Then don't date dominant girls if you don't want to deal with someone challenging you. There are many submissive girls out there. Look at all the beta males, now imagine all the beta female.
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hey if you want to get married and then divorced a couple of years later be my guest
if anything jews would be shilling to get you married so you end up getting divorced which is what WILL happen and then it makes the jews money because of lawyers
jews are the good guys
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>>136807990
>all women are lying sluts goyim, trust me. Don't even try
>Jews are the good guys
>Also I'm a jew
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>>136807970
>There are many submissive girls out there.
hahahahaha lol @ you if you think they're any different

stay young and naive you mgtow-hating cuck
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>>136800706
>Falling for the 3DPD meme
Enjoy your divorce. I'm sure your dedication to the white race will be remembered.
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>>136807450
Betas are literally what modernity was built on.
Fact of the matter is that TradCons have no solution but "look for the one" & "muh white race".

Unless you can fix the legislation & degeneracy I and many other men will never marry. Albeit, I may consider surrogacy if I ever feel the desire to contribute to the "white race".
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What you fags fail to see, is that CHAD was ALWAYS ABOUT HIS OWN WAY.

Why can't lesser man do the same? They are at the losing end of things anyway
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>>136808039
In America, there is one divorce approximately every 36 seconds*. That's nearly 2,400 divorces per day, 16,800 divorces per week and 876,000 divorces a year. The average length of a marriage that ends in divorce is eight years. People wait an average of three years after a divorce to remarry (if they remarry at all).Oct 30, 2012
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>>136808045
>MGTOW hating cuck
Virgin detected. You must not talk to any girls since you group them all the same. Enjoy porn and bitching on 4chan
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>>136803164
>Modernity has birthed a generation of whores, incentivied by the Government to fuck men.

Women are like children in the sense that they need someone to validate their desires. Their natural desire is to have someone take care of them, give them emotional validation and a purpose in life. They have been brainwashed to believe this is the role of the government. Traditionally, this role used to be passed from her father to her husband.
All you have to do is to find a girl who was raised in the right manner, to believe this is the role of the husband. In my experience only christian women from traditional churchs have these values nowadays.
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>>136800706
Nice try shill. Remember to Sage.
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>>136808094
I see you have a copy-paste document ready for spamming, jew.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html
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>>136807364

>You don't address any single issue
>Ignore divorce statistics
>Ignore the historical moment we are living in
>Ignore the level of moral absolute degeneracy
>Expect man to marry like it's the 60's

Are you an imbecile?
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>>136808105
Not a virgin but keep strawmanning if that helps to distract from the sinking realization that your shaming techniques aren't working and work less and less with every passing year of young men realizing how stacked the deck is against them.

Of all the men I know and am friends with under 30, only 1 has long term interest in marriage and children, and he's mormon. I bet this scares the fuck out of you "muh white race" types
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>>136808146
They haven't been brainwashed to believe that. The government now actually does provide from them (through welfare, alimony and child support + affirmative action and what not) so no brainwashing needed.
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>>136808188
why are you shit talking me when you post a ny times link
you are a lost cause
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>>136800706
but deeming women as undesireables and leaving them to their own devices is precisely what "abandoning degeneracy" is.
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>>136808253
>young men realizing how stacked the deck is against them.
>Muh Victimhood
>Check out of society!
Maybe if you stop being a little bitch, you would have better luck with women.
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>>136808376
>you would have better luck with women.
I don't want "better luck" with women.
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>>136808077

>Unless you can fix the legislation & degeneracy I and many other men will never marry

That's exactly what they're trying to do so why aren't you tradcon and trying to achieve that goal? Are you just going to sit playing videogames while waiting for other men to fix the problem? You're pathetic. Behaving exactly like a fucking woman. Perhaps it's best you don't pass on your genes.
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>>136803738
Men hold the power of civilization, this is called PATRIARCHY you fucking shell of a man.

Therefore, swallow this black pill:
Men always have the task of taking responsability of civilizational problems because they are resonsible for managing civilization in first placel. These problems might have been initiated by you, but they were initiated by the men who liberated women and let gave them the right to vote.
Now we're entitled to fix this mistake of our ancestors, you like it or not.
If you don't agree, then you have fallen on the feminist meme "muh patriarchy is bad"

Patriarchy is the only way civilization can exist
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>>136808376
> "muh man up and find that NAWALT anon!"
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>>136808309
>Posts unverified statistics with no source
>Gets BTFO
>T-that news outlet doesn't count! Only jews on 4chan can be trusted!
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You can tell from this thread alone the shills are the ones who are anti-MGTOW.

(((They))) created womens culture and now men are avoiding women, all they can do is call them beta neckbeards for looking after their own interests.

(((Someones))) scared their efforts have failed.

MGTOW are "the ones that can see".
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>>136808423
>Are you just going to sit playing videogames?
Yes, only betas try really hard to "save their relationships" with women
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>2017
>(((marrying)))
>(((MGTOWing)))
The best (and most difficult) strategy is to advance up the social hierarchy and make enough money to the point where you can build an isolated empire where you can keep your breeders while Western civilization collapses.

Instead you narrow your choices down to limited actions based on a single decision that guarantees your comfort in the short term
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>>136808359
Your porn addiction counts as degeneracy too.

>trying this hard to blame everything on women while excusing yourself completely
You're posting on 4chan, man.
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>>136808376
>keep playing the rigged game because I want you to
No.
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>>136808433
No shit. We're in a cycle:

Step 1. Patriarchy.
Step 2. Egalitarianism.
Step 3. Feminism.
Step 4. Collapse & Repeat.
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>>136808412
Exactly, you gave up on women. The only men who do not marry other than priests are usually gays. Although, that has changed. Enjoy hitting 65 and with nobody to spend it with.
>>136808438
>Chads have some magical, innate ability that I don't have
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>>136808454
just google divorce rate and you will see what i posted
there's plenty of links
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>>136808433
This
Fucking weaklings everywhere afraid of responsibility
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Stop replying to this Jewish crap and Sage.
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>>136808572
>Wants to die alone because it is popular on 4chan
>Victimhood mentality.
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>>136808559
>MAN UP YOU WHITE MALES!!! STOP LOOKING AT PORN YOU PIG!!! FIX YOURSELF BEFORE YOU GO CRITCIZING THE SISTERHOOD!!!
I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>136808502
>Jews DON'T want you to be a childless, woman-hating loner goyim, trust me!
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>>136808454
>Posts news source full of jews and lefists
>Calls other guy jew

Wow, CNN and NYTimes are based.
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>>136808666
Not listening to satan's advice thanks.
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>>136808537
This anon gets it.
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>>136808628
>MAN UP AND TAKE CARE OF TYRONE'S CHILD NOW SHITLORD!!! WHY ARE YOU SO AFRAID OF RESPONSIBILITY?
lol tradcucks are truly pathetic
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>>136808684
>CRITCIZING THE SISTERHOOD!!!

don't ever do this. don't even talk to women that are into feminism.
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>>136808433
Too bad western civilization is a matriarchy.
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>>136807181
>You are a LEAF
Not an arguement
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>>136808620
BTFO again, jew
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>>136808795
so you don't think nearly a million divorces a year in the usa is a big deal?
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>>136800706
You sound like a shill
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>>136808698
They want reproduction, but with weak parents. So the state can be the new parents and raise the kids. Thats how it works now.

If you have kids you are getting cucked so bad by the state because you are paying for your kids to be indoctrinated by the state into (((their))) bullshit culture.

Raising kids in this society is the ultimate cuckoldry
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>>136808763
Every woman I have ever met is an egalitarian - and therefore 1st/2nd wave feminists. Feminism isn't just 3rd wave manspreading and wage gap nonsense.
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>all those females desperately trying to convince people on an ANIME IMAGEBOARD of all places to reproduce and not just in any way but by trying to shame men who're already shamed and excluded from society into "contributing" to that society

apex heh
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>>136808684
>RREEEEEE I HATE ROASTIES
>WOMEN ARE CONSPIRING ON 4CHAN TO MAKE ME A RESPONSIBLE ADULT

You wish there were women here mate lol
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>>136808257
They're brainwashed in the sense that they think they don't need a man, when they actually need because even if the government provides for them, women become miserable whitout men and children. The problem is that by the time they realize it it is too late to turn back.
Statistics say the happiest women are the housewifes, and this used to be just common sense.
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>>136801974
poppie face calling, wow, so convincing.
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>>136808717
I am telling you to find a good girl and get married. You want to revel in pleasures and degeneracy.
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>>136808795
>marriage rates in the shitter
>ow look fewer people are getting divorced
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>>136808891
>Don't have kids goyim!
>Let your race be replaced by third world savages or you're a cuckold!
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>>136807007
I like how the shills ignored this. They're trying to shame everyone into marrying,
>don't worry goy, chase the pussy, once you get the pussy your life will be better
>just be Alpha, you can keep women in check

But when presented with an attractive alpha male who gets pussy, and refutes their claims, they just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.
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>>136808919
>35 posts by this ID
JUST MAN UP AND BE A (((GOOD PROVIDER))) AMIRITE GO- I MEAN GUYS?
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>>136808909
even first wave feminism is bullshit zionist subversion
women have always been able to get a job
it's just back in the day being a housewife wasn't a bad thing
now every woman has been brainwashed into thinking they need to have a "real career"
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>>136808976
See >>136807340
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>>136808843
>>136808987
>1 in 2 marriages lasts for life even despite the garbage, promiscuous, jew infested, legally corrupt, anti-family culture we live in

With even the most basic life skills and self confidence you can easily build a lasting relationship, would be the implication there.
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you can cry all you want about MGTOW, but in the end you cant do shit, you cant make us be a castrated simp, female induced cancer recipients.
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>>136808909

Fuck off fag, no defense for feminist cancer. Show your flag.
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>>136809014
>Having children makes you a cuckold goyim!
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>>136808990
>If you can't have kids, you're a virgin neckbeard
>we need more goy-cows for milking
>don't go your own way
>sending kids for indoctrination by our (((education))) is "redpilled"!
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>White men and white women need to abandon this degenerate lifestyle, and seek to come together for the future of the race and our civilization. Be a part of the solution, /pol/. Not a part of the problem. Divide and conquer.

now go ahead and explain this bit to woman, im waiting
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>>136808976
>le good girl meme
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>136809143
It's about not marrying a whore, but that's even harder these days.
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>>136800706

The absolute proof MGTOW is not a jew shilling shit:

Convince them to get surrogate mothers and to raise a kid by themselves of their own race. They will be open to the idea.
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>>136809143
you can but can a woman? modern day women are generally trash that think the grass is greener and will up and leave with no qualms whatsoever
even if you have kids with her
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>>136809005
>I like how the shills ignored this.
The shills are promoting MGTOW. It was "ignored" because I'm the only one here and I've been at this for hours and can't respond to every whiny post from Manchildren Goying (((Their))) Own Way.

>wahh stop shaming me
Get a white wife and have white children, beta.
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>>136808589
There is no "repeat"
When a civilization reachs the collapse, it fucking ends. When this happens other civilizations may raise from it, but that one civilization will already be lost, and its legacy will be just in the history books.

Therefore, what you're saying is that our civilization will ultimately cease to exist, giving birth to another civilization which we have no idea of how it will be.
Do you really think we reached this point?

There is still time to bring back the values. Instead of repeating, we will be reseting.
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>>136809184
>MAN UP AND TAKE CARE OF CHAD'S KIDS NOW YOU VIRGIN WOMAN-HATER
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>>136809282
>jew BTFO
>b-but white women are evil, goyim! Trust me!
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>>136809171
No. Also I'm not defending feminism. It all needs to go 1st 2nd and 3rd wave.
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>>136808698
Jews want you to pay them for representation in divorce court.
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>>136809317
>DON'T HAVE WHITE CHILDREN GOYIM OR YOU'RE A KEKOLD
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>>136808909
Then they're wrong. Women aren't our equals, and any woman who believes she can stand on equal ground with her man, is already a bad partner.

We're complimentary for each other, yes, but men are undoubtedly the dominant gender, and egalitarianism rejects this basic fact of nature. Women have a role to fulfill is society, and egalitarianism exists to reject that role.

1st wave feminism was the first step toward the shitstorm we currently find ourselves in.
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>>136809280
>Implying single fatherhood is a good way to raise children

Shut up stupid monkey.
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>>136809374
>It's a big conspiracy to get goyim to pay legal fees!
>So don't have white kids or seek a white wife goyim, trust me!
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>>136809357

It needs to go to the 0th wave.
Feminism is cancer. Progressivism is cancer. Leftism is cancer. There is nothing worth saving there.
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>>136809408
I know. The guy I was responding to said to avoid feminists so I informed him that I have yet to see a non feminist woman.
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>>136809451

A broken marriage with a whore showing with 10 boyfriends in front of their small kids, while they bad mouth their dads is better?

A single father is worth 1000 single mothers.

Show your flag, you idiot.
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>>136809342
why are you so fervently defending women?
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>>136801787
What does MGTOW have to do with being unsuccessful? Stop having kids and marrying women and divorce lawyers and colleges go out of business.

It seems (((someone))) is scared of MGTOW

You faggots wanted diversity and equality, enjoy it.

The white man has checked out of this mess you made.
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>>136809262
>You have just a little under a 1 in 2 chance of being able to make a lifetime relationship with a skank who's fucked 19 guys
lol
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>>136809397
I am a high IQ, productive white man with good genes. Nothing you say will ever convince me to get married or have children. I don't need to convince you of anything. You need me more as part of your ideology than I need you for mine. How does it feel to be powerless?
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>>136808758
>every woman has a secret Tyrone's child

You are a sad creature
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>>136809458
>Jews don't like money
Lol okay Shlomo.
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>>136807160
>It will be too late you spineless faggot, act while you still can.

It's already too late you retard.

You check the demographics lately?
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>>136809014

Dudes like the ones on the comics should learn the truth about whores, instead of sticking up with those cumdumpsters.
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>>136809536
>The white man has checked out of this mess you made.

Why do these MGTOW faggots all have these little, jewy catchphrases? It's like they think they're on TV or something. It's like they're trying to push some agenda.

Hmm...
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>>136809611
You are a nanaimo bar. Shoo, shoo, before you melt in the sun.
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>>136809285
I probably get more pussy than you a week than you get a year, and I'm very certain I'm much stronger, and could easily kick your ass. What's the best measuring tool for who is the better man? Survival of the fittest. If I can kill you, and take all your shit, I'm the dominant male. That's the way society is regressing. So don't tell me what to do, you kike shill, because if society is moving in the way you want it to, after collapse, the alphas will take hold again, and this time you might just get exterminated for good. So watch yourself Jew, because you'll get what's coming to you sooner or later.
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I'll just leave this here for those who are naive enough to think they can control the semon demons, or think women are not degenerate freaks.
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>>136809516
A stable marriage is better you idiot.
I heard you monkeys still have good waifus for yourselfs, but I guess that was not the case with your father for you to think like this
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>>136809593
>I am a high IQ, productive white man with good genes.
You wish, kike.
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>>136809674
>20% of replies in thread
>I'm not the shill doe
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>>136809717
>t. pic related
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>>136809458
it is a conspiracy, matter of fact. the divorce industry generates 50 billion dollars a year in united states alone. the bridal industry only makes 2 billion.
basically everyone is getting a cut of enslaving you forever. some divorce lawyers make 100$ an hour in some cases.
i mean, i know some guys think they are too clever and they gonna trick the system and somehow will find a way out of this. its just sad to see how young people get into a deal that might ruin their life forever
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>>136809740
Didn't address any of my arguments. Your "movement" needs people like me and you're not really doing any convincing, all you can do is call people kikes and attempt to shame them back into shitty situations.
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>>136809822
>shills
>using the same IP

Seems like I check out
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simple, watch it burn, rebuild it, we men can wait, i have money, no problems getting pussy, just wait a couple of decades when young bitches see their female relatives grow old alone, and wait to the young pussy to start raining, sounds like a plan.
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>>136809674

Listen buddy, if you want to save the white race so bad, go have 20 kids... Fuck, I'll even knock up some bitches for you if you agree to raise the bastards.

Until that happens, don't expect me to foot the bill to keep a society going that doesn't even want me.
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>>136809721
The kike shill is just gonna ignore it. Anything that goes against the narrative he's trying to push just gets brushed aside, and he goes back to trying to subvert people by calling them beta manchildren.
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>>136809897
I've been arguing with anti-white, anti-family, beta manchildren all night. It gets tiring.

When in doubt, throw shit on jews. Then everybody wins.
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>>136809928
agreed.
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>>136809721

You need to make another fake tinder account already, we need more material like that.
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>>136809918
You got real quiet when I mentioned the kike love of shekels. The stormfront LARP isn't fooling anyone.
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>>136809721
>Five degenerate sluts prove that there are ZERO trustworthy white women on the planet
JUST

>>136809941
>beta manchildren
Truth stings don't it
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>>136809928
this.

why would I go out of my way to sire a child that will only end up being hated by proxy as am i?
starting a family is not worth the effort in 2017; and I don't care that we are being overrun by shitskins.
The best part? I know I'm the problem, and I don't care.
Why?
I'll be dead by then and other people don't matter.
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Looks like mgtow might be working.
Top comment on v/traditionalwives.

I wanna be this level wife. Also, has anyone else noticed that the tradwife movement is growing exponentially? - https://imgoat.com/uploads/9ca14e7ea6/35876.png
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>>136810033
But you're not actually accomplishing anything.

You need mgtows for your movement more than mgtows need your movement by definition, so attacking them for not MANNING UP is clearly not going to work.
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>>136810128
>You didn't respond to my anti-family bullshit

Jews don't want you to have a white wife or white kids. Get that through your head.
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I'm convincing myself that women really don't fall in love. Are women really capable of love?
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>>136809842
I already posted a pic of myself itt, do you want another?

You're not gonna bully me into submission you kike shill. I'm 28 years old, and have been around the block enough times to make up my mind. The only way up is what >>136808537 said.

Make tons of money, ignore the rest.

If you think I'm gonna limit my personal growth to sustain a leech whore who will spend and take all my time and money, you're wrong.

You kikes killed traditional values by creating feminism, there is nothing left to save. The only way out is through science and tech. I know what lies ahead in the future, you won't trick me into falling into the lower half of society that won't make it.
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is this the same drugged-out shill that made 71 posts in a recently(few min ago)-archived thread?
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>>136800706
People were posting their MGTOW battle stations the other night, re-posting mine.
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>>136802558
Found the roastie. No one is going to marry you.
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>>136810232

>Surrogate mother
>White based kids

This is the only solution now
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>>136809928
if you want to save the white race advocate for changing the laws that kill white men in the first place.
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>>136809928
>>136810101
>>136810163

To have kids you would have to find women who would be willing to have sex with you. Something MGTOW goyim have a very hard time doing! Good luck though!
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>>136810232
You finally respond, by changing the subject.
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>>136810228
Ignore him ffs. He obviously gets off on (you)s and spouting nonsense about Jews and beta manchildren.
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>>136810132
>50 posts by this ID
M8, you are pathetic. The only beta I see here is you.
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Try that again.
This was the top comment.

Yes, I think it is starting to make a comeback , and is about time , I was getting sick of getting flak for it. Half of me wants to credit the mgtow movement though for scaring the shit out of women .
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>>136803195
It worked for them...
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>>136810268

Based. Would you consider having a kid with a surrogate mother, and raising it by yourself?
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>>136810132
>>beta manchildren
Most men are beta though. And beta men combined with the stability unit build society. Look at any university and you will find it full of beta men.

Problem is that the stable monogamous family unit doesn't exist any more and so many men decide not to engage in it. Calling people beta man-children doesn't solve anything and doesn't address the original problem.

Is there a realistic solution? Maybe but I don't see it.
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lot of virgins in this thread
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>>136810313
Why do you think I gave up on women to begin with?
Not everybody on here is an autistic shitposting virgin, dude.
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>real MGTOW has never been tried
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>>136810280
>REEEEEEEEE I HATE ROASTIES
Embarrassing! You delusional betas WISH women would talk to you here. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but that almost never happens! Women don't like losers!
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Have fun paying alimony cucks
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>>136810505
this
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>>136810290
Someone tired that at Google recently and got fired.

No point in trying to sabotage your own career.

No point in having kids either.

I will die with a smile on my face knowing that eventually America will turn into Rhodesia, all of the remaining whites will get killed, and in a few years every nigger will die of starvation without a superpower to send them food aid.
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I wanna be this level wife. Also, has anyone else noticed that the tradwife movement is growing exponentially? - https://voat.co/v/TraditionalWives/comments/2044775
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>>136810399
>Calling people beta man-children doesn't solve anything and doesn't address the original problem.
You're right. I'm fucking spent though, dude. And just getting these idiots to bump the thread gives publicity to the basic concept MGTOW = Jews, and lets me shit all over jews without any repercussion. Win-win.
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>>136810449

Women parasitic nature, their sexuality rampant, and divorce raping is what got mediocre man fucked.

Only 10% to !% top enjoy being flocked by all the rest of women. The rest of it all struggle and resent the situation. Why can't you visualize this beyond the individual struggle, into adding it to a collective issue that is up to the millions of man?

Are you idiot? Are you a rostie? Are you a jew? Are you a liberal?
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>>136810420
>Not everybody on here is an autistic shitposting virgin, dude.
Yea YOU'RE the exception! I believe you!

>Don't have kids goyim!
>Don't seek a white wife goyim!
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>>136804164
>>136808188
Yes goy there's no more divorse ! My Jewish lawyer cousin needs business! Oy vey !
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>>136810369
Not him, but I would. Especially thanks to genetic engineering/designer babies.

Best gameplan is:
Get rich
Get jacked
fuck whores
get a plastic koreanfu/nipfu who is submissive, alternatively get a robot waifu
DO NOT GET MARRIED
get a surrogate mother, and genetically engineer your kids to be godlike ubermensch
use your economic empire to raise them accordingly
move to a country with a stronger patriarchal structure if need be, kids should still be home schooled though
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>>136810228
This anon has common sense.
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>>136810544
But when you don't counter the arguments and just shitpost it makes this thread look bad. How about you actually answer my post instead? >>136810399
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>>136808537
So basically become a millionaire?
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blame diney, blame female vote. againg watch it burn, rebuild it.
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>>136810572
>REEEEE only chads can get women! 90% of men are completely rejected and it's all women's fault REEEEEEEEE
Seriously, my friend. Seek a professional. I want you to have a happy future with family, for yourself and the race. Go to a shrink with this bullshit. You need a real person.
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>>136810640

Seems to me to a superior path than gambling it all away on a whore.
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>>136810586
I already posted myself to disprove you anon. Why do you deny facts?
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>spamming your own thread for three hours and 50+ posts
>after your other thread where you posted 70 times in four hours, three of which overlapped your hours in this thread
You need psychiatric help
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>>136810611
>White racialism is all a jewish conspiracy to generate legal fees in divorce cases
>So screw the Jew(tm) by not having kids and not seeking a white wife. Trust me goyim!
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Oy vey get soon all marriages will end in divorse ! 100 percent market profits goy!
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>>136810268
I love you anon.
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>>136810717

So you can't address my point and will proceed with personal attacks on an anon who lives on the other side of the planet?

What makes you think I can't get sex or a relationship? Why do you think it's hard to get sex?

Sex deflates the female value, I don't want worthless women. Nor should any male want one. Women now are morally worthless and not family material at all. Why does that falls back into me? I'm the one talking rationally here. You are the one screeching like a faggot.
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>>136810776
>after your other thread where you posted 70 times in four hours, three of which overlapped your hours in this thread

Honestly not my doing. But I'm glad to see other anons are taking up the good fight against anti-family, anti-white jewish brainwashing.
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>>136810717
wanna see my abs, my tinder matches? name calling is useless, how old are you? are you currently being cucked (relationship)by a modern cumdumpster? probably.
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>>136810776
I think guAA2WHN is a jilted roastie or something. There's just no way that a man with testosterone gets this butthurt over whether other men choose to marry or not.
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>>136810776
And yet he's going around calling everyone beta manchildren, kek.

>>136810795
Hey cuck, post a picture of yourself. I command you. You're talking so much shit, surely you're a peerless alpha.
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>>136801977
>back in my day
Not relevant to modern men, sorry.

Odds are not determined solely by your ability, but also by the absolute number of good women. Not just that but as the number of good women go down their value increases (demand for them) and so you have to be in the upper echelons of men to win over these women. Because good women know they're good in a sea of bad.

Which means the average man with average IQ and average opportunities are basically out of the game.

When the value naturally gets high enough, it exceeds that of the benefit to you and so becomes irrational to pursue.

Its kinda like saying if you just save enough and work hard enough you can have a $10,000,000 mansion. Well maybe...but it doesnt mean your life is better, maybe not killing yourself trying to earn and save that money and doing without the mansion is a better life for you.

If you're the kind of man who can stand chasing your unicorn and thinks the final payoff is worth it then great, more power to you, but let's not pretend that is in any way anything other than the exception.
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>>136810849
He's not trying to have a discussion. Your words are wasted.
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>>136810849
You're not fooling me, mate. You can bluff all you want. But think about what I said. I'm genuinely trying to help you. Have a great rest of your day. Maybe turn off the computer and go hang out with your family.
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>>136810586
we don't have jews here and I don't own a TV, or visit most of Jewtube.
The only indoctrination I've had was past experiences with women.
Spoiler alert: they weren't good.
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>>136810761
>Posting yourself on /pol/ to prove something
Lol. I missed it, though. But that's pretty pathetic dude. What are you, like 19? You don't know anything. Wait until you're at least 25 before you decide that you're going to be a single, anti-family, anti-white activist for the rest of your life.
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>>136810883
judging by the posting style, it's moarpheus
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>>136810974
>talks about turning off the computer
>after spending 3 hours spamming his own thread
Das breedy NEET my dude
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>>136810974

Faggot, if you can't debate, the only thing left for you to do is to kill yourself. Go shill somewhere else. The truth is obvious, and there is no way of making me unsee it.

Marrying in our historical conditions is like drinking sewer water. Shill it if you want too. Not my problem.
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>>136810931
No, I'm not going to "discuss" with you. Deal with it, betas.

MGTOW is anti-family. MGTOW is anti-white. There is no discussion.
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>>136811136
>WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU SAY TO ME YOU LITTLE SHIT
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>>136811082
This, I recognize him as well. But there's a small probability for antifa/SRS as well
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>>136802695
The easy mode would be saving as much money you can in valuable metals to prevent inflation and to buy food and other stuff directly from people without paying tax.
The less money you put in this system's pocket, the better.
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>>136811185

Surrogate mothers.
White babies.

Better to have a single father than a single mother.
Better to have a loving dedicated father, than growing up on a broken home.

Still white, still promote kids. Whats your 'answer' now? You don't drink sewer water because you are thirsty, and you don't marry knowing that you are going to get fucked just because you want kids.
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>>136811088
Yea I need to go to bed. Way too much time playing the political activism game tonight. Later guys
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>>136811258
those options aren't exclusive of one another
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>>136811337
b'aww, only made it to 62 this time, what'sa matter? you coming down already?
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>>136804164
>The true redpill about women is that they are pliable. As long as they haven't been dicked yet
Hahaha, oh god my sides. Are we living on the same planet?

>MGTOW identifies the problem, but has the wrong solution. The worst solution actually.
No people misinterpret the problem like you do, and then think MGTOW is a bad solution.

The problem that is the cause of MGTOW is that of diminished male sovereignty, the fact that you marry, you don't have control or real ownership over your assets, the woman does through government intervention, you don't have legal rights to your child, she does through government, in fact the legal and financial reality is basically - you're fucked.

MGTOW seeks to correct that erosion of male sovereignty by educating males, that means exposing marriage and fatherhood for what it really is. This is why, while most MGTOW do not flock in any one specific direction with regards to life and what to do with it, they do hold in common things they avoid, which is marriage and fatherhood.

When you understand this problem/solution dynamic, you realize that MGTOW is entirely appropriate. MGTOW isn't here to save the world, save the wimminz, save society, correct the wrongs, save the white etc etc.

It's here as a lifeboat for men to escape the sinking ship.
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>>136811337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCNHaLziBQw
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>>136803397
The problem is that most of them don´t have any sense of duty and responsability. They don´t want to help bring down the rotten system, just bitch about dem Roasties and Chads.
>>136804164
>The worst solution actually.
That is deliberate
>Chads
Aka anyone that isn´t ugly, fat and socially inept.
>Pliable because
Its funny you left out the most obvious, their parents. Normies in general.
Also, ya better learn to be convincing, not like these weaklings.

>>136803738
MGTOW philosophy
- Refuse to take responsability for your lives.
- "Women today never takes responsability for their lives!"
>Finanical suicide
The responsability is to bring down the anti-White system down like the WTC towers. So a lot of people don´t act out because they have high-paying jobs and GFs but you are unemployable and un-GFable, may master weaponized autism, there are a fewer obstacles...
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>>136810974
Hey, post a pic of yourself cuck. Go on. Show the world who's behind all this "advice."
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>>136811521

Also, it's not like MGTOW wants to stay single. They just revolted with the current situation, and rightfully so. If the cultural conditions were corrected, or really worthy women showed up, those same men would marry in a heartbeat. They crave for legit female love.

Can't understand how those idiots can't see it for what it is.
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>>136804948
MGTOW is reactionary, that's why it's increasing, because the cause is increasing, that is feminism and the socialization of society and the growth of the state to be able to reach into families and fuck with them.

You're making claims about money and power that are completely unfounded, if you seriously believe this then present some evidence.
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TL;DR:
3rd wave feminism = cause
MGTOW = effect

It really is that simple.
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>>136801974
>>136800706
This. And their shilling is so obvious, they don't even try to be subtle.
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>>136811679
I wouldn't put MGTOW as a reactionary movement because reactionary means to react and revert recent changes, while MGTOW has never been observed before hence why you're not really reverting to a last state - you're progressing to a new one.

The current society can be split in the following:

>in the middle: feminists and liberal progressivists
>backwards (reactionary) side: traditionalists and religious conservatives
>forwards (accelerationist) side: MGTOW and technocrats/transhumanists
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>>136801675
>boo hoo, life is a rigged game
grow up, be a man, or fucking kys
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>>136810369
Men tend to better than women with single parenting but not a whole lot better as I understand it. Molymeme has a few good videos on this, if you can pretty much get the first 5 or so years of your life off work and stay at home then you have a good shot of raising a healthy kid, so I find that possible but I lean away from it. I earn a decent amount of money now but not enough to just drop from the work place for 5 years. I remain open to all sorts of ideas though, moving to countries with less restrictive laws and more traditional women is probably the best bet at the moment, save a nest egg in the UK first and then get out...not sure to where though.

>>136810810
Live the fucking dream man.
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>>136811739
TL;DR

> jews promote feminism as cause
> get MGTOW as desired efect
> mgtow cucks somehow think they really go their own way and outsmart the jew

Just wait when buzzfeed starts articles about new millenial male lifestyle aka MGTOW. Then for sure you will know how 'independent' were you. Kek
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>>136812106
I don't care what buzzfeed thinks.

I'm not an antinatalist by any means. If the right woman crosses my path, I will gladly become a family man.

Too bad that woman may or may not exist, and I'm not willing to exert any effort into seeking for her.
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>>136802650
as the man, you decide what your family structure is like. you make the hard decisions, you do the hard work, and the woman is like the glue that holds the whole thing together. now quit being a bitch and go start a family.
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lol men withdrawing their labor has these Kikes and sluts scared.
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>>136812304
you sound more and more like a female.
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>>136811631
Exactly. There's no ideology in MGTOW, some people seem to think that women are inherently bad or evil, outside of some fringe idiots, that's really not the case. It's reactionary to the state of society right now, mostly due to overbearing government messing with the power dynamics in relationships and giving all the power unilaterally to women.

We're all human, we all crave love, even those who were burned, once they get over their anger they still have that drive, but unfortunately rationality has to win out over emotion if we want to remain in control of our lives and not risk it all.

Society may eventually go back, but that's not the goal of MGTOW, the goal is to preserve male soverignty, if we could just get that straightened out it'd solve a lot of the dumb arguments we see pop up about MGTOW.
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>>136811996
Well it's not a movement, we need to get that clear, MGTOW while it has a label or a name, is not a movement with group goals, it's 100% individualistic. The label merely applies to men who have independently adopted the same strategy.

In that sense I'd say it's reactionary in the sense that it has appeared where it did not exist in the past due to the changes in society. It's not attempting to revert anything, it's just lots of men on their own trying to save their own hides.

The moment anyone reads group mentality into MGTOW they're doing it wrong.
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>>136812671
If it is individualistic you can't define shit and tell what it really is and everybody who uses it feels different. You yourself have no right to generalize it
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>>136812762
MGTOW follow a general philosophy (to varying degrees to match their lifestyle), so yes, you can generalize the core beliefs to a degree.
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>>136800706
>what are artificial wombs
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>>136801787
>being a wagecuck that only lives for making money and never gets to enjoy his life
>successful
Pick 1
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>>136812762
The label applies to what is common among these men.

What is common is the observed behaviour of not doing what society expects of them (to get married and have kids) but instead to do something else, to go their own way.

These men self identified and self applied the label and that group grew which is how the term MGTOW entered the vocabulary. Meaning of the the word is consensus among the men who self apply the label. Not all people claiming the label fit the definition either because they don't understand it or seek to re-define it, either way that's not unique to MGTOW, it's common across all labels.
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This is very simple actually. MGTOW promote:
>divide and conquer. White men against white women.
>degeneracy. "I'll fuck anything that moves because muh wyminz are only fuck toys", "I'll brake up families because all wyminz are sluts anyway".
>white genocide. Advising to not marry or have children, or if you do it only with asians/latinas.

It's so obvious MGTOW is a kike subversion, anyone with half a brain can see the root of the problem are the jews and their society destroying scheming and yet all MGTOW faggots only care about is bashing women.
I'm convinced that 95% of posters on here promoting this subversion are paid shills, the other 5% being virgin retards who don't realise they're the male version of feminism.
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>>136800706
Jews are God's children. why do you hate God?
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