Race and IQ debunked

>>136800486
>e-celeb shill
>that flag
don't forget to sage

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>>136800675
salt right crybaby

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>>136800486
>given the right conditions
Central africa is a temperate zone with plenty of arable land (Zimbabwe alone has enough arable land to feed the whole of Africa). Yet these people have never evolved past mudhuts.

I just watched a documentary where these niggers, carried by a """"boat""""", which consisted of 4 uneven logs tied together by shoestrings, went fishing in crocodile infested waters.

Pic related is another example.

Go ahead and tell me again how we, anyone else or any other environmental factor can account for the severe mental incapability of niggers.

>>136800675
t. triggered fag
I saged your mom anon.

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>>136800818
>using the n-word unironically

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>>136800486

>>136800486
Okay, I guess niggers will get their act together any day now.

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>>136800486
Average sub Saharan African iq is 70. About the same as someone with downs syndrome.

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>>136800486
>black IQ improves given the right conditions

Are they not tired of using this old argument? Blacks IQ has stagnated and not gone up in decades in U.S.

Yes they have gone up some 10 points compared to the days of slavery or back in Africa, and that's exactly as expected of how much the enviroment can affect your IQ. They are still far behind every single group of people in the States, and they are not closing the gap anymore.

This argument died in the 80s/90s.

The only group that actually has 'evolved' past the black group are those with one black and one non-black parent.

Did anybody watch the video?

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>>136801628
Maybe if you stopped being racist for five minutes you would know that environment actually does improve IQ.

>>136801758
Okay then faggot, let's take the Africans and ship them into America, certainly they will get smarter and stop killing eachother over land right? Oh shit, we already fucking did and they're still killing each other over territory and being retarded. Go back to plebbit.

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>>136800958
>Even Thomas Sowell demonstrated that black IQ improves given the right conditions

That does not automatically lift up all people on the same level even if they live in equally good conditions. American blacks have averagely 10-15 points higher IQ than the African blacks. While American blacks who have developed in more stable conditions have higher IQ than their African ancestors, the average IQ of American black would still be lower than the average American white IQ.

>>136800818
>Central Africa
>temperate

huh

>>136800486
>denying History
Blacks didnt even have a written Language or had invented the wheel.

But this guy is from the Kraut Crew so no Surprise

>>136801656
one bell curve is enough for proof to me

>>136802307
All the people tracked in the National Longitudinal Study of Youth took the Armed Forces Qualifying Test, which Herrnstein and Murray treat as a good measure of intelligence. Because the material covered in the test includes subjects like trigonometry, many academic critics of The Bell Curve have objected to its use as a measure only of IQ and not at all of academic achievement. Herrnstein and Murray concede in the footnotes that scores tend to rise with the subjects' education--but they seriously underestimate the magnitude of this rise, as shows. And they resist the obvious inference that the test scores are measuring something other than intelligence.

Herrnstein and Murray begin their discussion of the National Longitudinal Study of Youth data by announcing that they aren't going to analyze the effect of education, because education is too much a result of IQ. It's not an independent variable. (Of course, according to their theory, socioeconomic status is also a result of IQ, but somehow, that doesn't stop them.) Therefore, what you'd most want to know from a policy standpoint--how much education can increase opportunity--isn't dealt with in the book, except in two obscure footnotes. Both would seem to support the liberal, pro-education position that Herrnstein and Murray say is futile. One footnote shows education increasing IQ year by year. The other shows a higher correlation between college degree and family income than between IQ and family income.

>>136802598
One of The Bell Curve's theoretical linchpins is the high heritability of IQ. Herrnstein and Murray, sounding like the souls of caution, write that "half a century of work, now amounting to hundreds of empirical and theoretical studies, permits a broad conclusion that the genetic component of IQ is unlikely to be smaller than 40 per cent or higher than 80 per cent. ... For purposes of this discussion, we will adopt a middling estimate of 60 per cent heritability." This now looks seriously overstated. Michael Daniels, Bernie Devlin, and Kathryn Roeder of Carnegie Mellon University took the same studies on which Herrnstein and Murray based their estimate, and subjected them to a computer meta-analysis ("a powerful method of statistical analysis"--The Bell Curve). Their paper, which has not yet been published, says: "In brief, studies of IQ, and our reanalyses of them, suggest a narrow-sense heritability of 34 per cent and a broad-sense heritability of 46 per cent. [The difference between broad and narrow is too technical to explain in this limited space.] This is a far cry from Herrnstein and Murray's maximum value of 80 per cent or their middling value of 60 per cent. Consequently, Herrnstein and Murray give the impression that IQ is highly 'heritable,' but it is not."

If the purpose of the whole exercise is to figure out what our social policies should be, then, "Which is more predictive, IQ or socioeconomic status?" isn't the essential question anyway. Making it the essential question avoids the issue of whether IQ is really so massively predictive that it drowns out everything else. (Herrnstein and Murray mostly leave the evidence for this, their central contention, to footnotes. The figures they offer are far from dispositive.)

>>136800486
>Even Thomas Sowell demonstrated that black IQ improves given the right conditions

That statement also means "human IQ improves with the right conditions" which can also be assumed to be the white median IQ would raise similarly if all white subjects had the ideal conditions supplied to blacks when their tested IQs were raised.

Did you not think this through?

>>136802307
Remember that American "blacks" are on average ~25% white. Isn't it funny that Obama, who is 50% white, is still called black?

>>136801758
Proper breeding practices mean the stronger/better genetics proliferate. Which means it's still genetic.

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>>136802598
>this unpublished paper says that niggers actually aren't stupid because of genetics, they're just too lazy to independently create civilization

Anyway you cut it, niggers are subhumans. If we had honest taxonomy, they would be a distinct species.

>>136802794
Well they also got handed fairly shitty geography.

They are a different sub-species but the same species. Sort of like a beefsteak tomato and a cherry tomato.

>>136801402
Holy fuck, what a faggot. Those NGO's are illegally trafficking people in to Europe. This dude has no idea what he's talking about.

>>136800486

Jeff, stop shilling on /pol/. We know it's you.

>>136800486
Who is Jeff Holiday?

>>136802846
If each variety of finch on the Galapagos islands is its own species, I don't see why niggers aren't their own species.

Niggers were given one of the most resource rich continents in the world. The only civilization that managed to come out of there was when Arabs took over a bit of the barren desert in the north. They're an objectively terrible race. If there were any justice in this world, we'd wipe them out and create a nature reserve.

>>136801758
Yeah smart whites want to be a minority in their own lands amiright

>>136802991
A pirate who doesn't like SJW's but he's also a massive liberal

>>136802353
>Zimbabwe
>Central africa
Oh just fuck off.

>>136800486
1:46 in and so far this degenrate has only stated, that race realists are secretly supremacist

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>>136800486
Why are you guys so desperate for niggers to live here? What do we owe them? They are a waste of our money. Wealth redistribution

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289613000706

(2013) Edward Dutton and Richard Lynn conclude that Finland has suffered a negative Flynn Effect between the years of 1997 and 2009 in all IQ metrics.

These results are in contrast to the gain Finland accrued between 1988 and 1997. The likely cause is the massively increased importation of migrants from other races, ethnicities, and cultures within that time period coupled with a slackening of mate selection criterion and racial endogamy. These findings are in-line with the consensus that outbreeding reduces IQ and the importation of migrants preempts that happening.

The manifestation of dysgenics in Finland supports IQ heritability, differences between races, and opposes the Flynn Effect and miscegenation propaganda in the same manner.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289615001221

(2015) Michael Woodley and Curtis Dunkel conclude that France has suffered a 4-point drop in IQ scores in the decade between 1999 and 2008-9 during a period of mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa in particular.

Their conclusions are as follows

• Dutton and Lynn have identified a 4 point decline in French IQ.
• Dysgenics and replacement migration are causes.
• French IQ losses are found to be associated with the Jensen effect (ρ = .833).
• A common factor of g loadings and 3 biological variables loads on the loss-vector.
• This supports biological causation.

>>136801758
Because others make the argument that whites are inbred.

I hate the IQ debate. It is a distraction from a potential political movement with real teeth.

>>136803089
>he's a faggot
Understood, thanks anon.

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>>136800486
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4286575/

(2015) Shakeshaft et al., analyze 360.000 sibling pairs, 9.000 twin pairs, and 3.000.000 18-year-olds in order to determine the heritability of IQ and its relation to genetic factors.

They conclude that IQ is, "familial, heritable, and caused by the same genetic and environmental factors responsible for the normal distribution of intelligence." They show that high-intelligence is, "a good candidate for, 'positive genetics,'" and conclude that there is a positive end to the distribution of intelligence as it is.

They show that there is no support for the Discontinuity Hypothesis that IQ is the result of environment or that mental illness is the result of something besides genetics.

In total, they conclude that IQ is extremely heritable (85% or more), genetic, polygenic, and does not arise from environmental factors but instead merely interacts with them. They show that people with exceptionally high IQs also tend to have other positive traits and very few negative genetic factors or expressed traits. They conclude IQ has almost no relation to de novo mutations, i.e., new mutations in DNA and that it nearly always matches what is heritable. They show that mental illness does not arise from environmental factors either and must arise from genetic factors and their interaction with the environment. These conclusions lend more credence to both Dual-Inheritance and the Continuity Hypothesis of IQs and Mental Illness.

>>136801402

>Probably fine

Probably not though.

Anyway, literally WHO?

>>136801758

>What is evolution

No shit.

IQ doesn't improve among individuals over a lifespan based on environmental factors.

IQ has been demonstrably raised in a person. Only suppressed or lowered.

>>136800486

>We will break these up in to three main sections

>Facts

>Feelings

>Feelings

Jokes aside - There is literally no reason to include the sociological or philosophical questions in a debate on scientific facts.

Are there inheritable traits more or less prominent among defined racial groups?

Yes.

Is intelligence distribution controlled in part by inheritability?

Yes.

It's not rocket science.

For all their whining about Eugenics being evil, if they'd just embrace it, we woud not need to have these conversations in the future.

>>136802638
THIS

>>136802295
people conform to societies expectations of them. if you give them reparations for all the torture and genocide that pays for your privileged life and stop microaggressing them into committing crime to feed their families they would probably be the smartest people on earth

>>136800486

White IQ would improve given the right conditions.

For instance if we had our countries back for 1.

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>>136803898
Slavery was wrong and contributed to criminal tendencies and poor education in Africans.

Jeff "there is no debate to be had" Holiday

Yup, I'll listen to that guy for sure.

>>136800486
Lefypol go home

>>136801758
>environment actually does improve IQ

so fucking what, and whites saw a Flynn effect. but guess what? the environment in the west improving for everyone means that blacks will always be behind everyone else. unless they interbreed enough to wash out all the negative mental genetics, and yet still somehow retain those outward genetic traits that identify them as black.

>>136803317
your mistake is assuming that lower iq is a bad thing. thats ableism and there is no place for it in the new world, leave attitudes like that back in the 1930s

>>136802638
>>136803867
Because we don't accept half-breeds as white. You're free to call him white if you want, but that's not how it works in America.

>>136803988
but just saying that it was wrong doesnt solve the problem. you benefit today from the legacy of slavery and genocide and if american society is going to be healed proper amends need to be made

>>136803898
>>136804031
A little too obvious, but it's a good effort.

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>>136804012
I'm not surprised you are racist with a flag like that.

>black IQ improves given the right conditions
Then why aren't there any studies being done to prove this if it's so obvious?
Seems like people are terrified of the truth.

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Shut the fuck up.
White colonists gave them all the conditions they could want (except in Congo) and yet they destroyed it for themselves.

Look at South Africa.
It became developed and attracted thousands of other Africans from the outside.
They had infrastructure, running water, electricity, schools, hospitals and plenty of arable land.
Now different ethnic groups are slaughtering each other, while also pushing out the few whites that are left.

Leftists and minorities likes to call whites the biggest genocidal warmongers in history, but they don't realize that Africa has been, and still is, a war zone with no end to the ethnic cleansing for thousands of years.

>>136800486
nice flag coward

American blacks score higher IQs than aficans because they have european admixture.Slaves were expensive so you used to breed your own with Micks from Ireland. It got so bad you had to make it illegal. Most blacks in america would be considered "colored" in SA

>>136803408
>It is a distraction from a potential political movement with real teeth.

Wrong. Those who accept IQ have a leg up on the competition, especially if they can do something with that knowledge.

>>136804158
It looks like a smelly antifa nigge, speaks like a faggot and talks about cringe. not falling for this twice

>>136804158

i'm not surprised that you're a flaming bigot toting a Reddit flag like that. my flag means nothing more than my geography.

There's no difference in genetic racial IQ that's not overshadowed by differences within racial groups by an order of magnitude. Liberals will still eternally believe that blacks are stupid monkeys that need to be protected and kept in zoos (inner cities.)

>>136800486
It only improves around white people - the closer nigs get to 100% of population the more they revert the enviroment to africa

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>>136804288
Jeff isn't antifa; he's the total opposite. He fights SJWs, he doesn't support them.
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>>136800486
Reminder:
What you're trying to disprove is that whites are smarter than blacks.
Saying that blacks raised by whites have a higher IQ than blacks raised by blacks doesnt disprove that.

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>>136804567
It does actually. It's the environment. The white parents were raised in that environment. The disparity in environment was created by mistreatment of Africans.
You are so desperate to be superior that you lie.

>>136802598
Blacks had more or less the same schooling as whites. Yes there are inner city schools and nice suburban schools. But they all teach reading, writing, arithmetic, then the usual further subject. The curricula overlap at least 80%, and a student's progress in both will depend mostly on their own performance. Even in the inner city you can get all of common core math, and probably a calculus course. Even in the suburban school if you fail to learn to read, you'll be handicapped.

So "education" was not markedly different, unless a lot more of the black kids were school dropouts.
(And if they were, I betcha they didn't drop out because they were too smart for the school.) What the students learned was different. But that's IQ isn't it?

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>>136800486
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18292342

(2008) Li JZ et. al., show the distinct population groups of the Earth by genetically testing individuals from each population group and mapping them by their single nucleotide polymorphisms.

Only three groups - South Asians, Central (West) Asians, and East Asians have overlaps while Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Indian South Asians have genetic contributions from European population groups. There is no genetic continuum between Africans and any other population group alive. The 40.000 years of evolution put between the rest of Mankind and Africans can be shown as the source of this.

This finding is supported by (Lao et. al., 2006; Costas et. al., 2005; Xing et. al., 2010 (1); Xing et. al., 2010 (2); Jakobsson et. al., 2008; Huang et. al., 2011; Paşaniuc et. al., 2010; Huang et. al., 2009; Hao et. al., 2009; Nothnagel et. al., 2009; Chanda et. al., 2012)

>>136800958
>lol all they can do is call me beta they have nothing except personal insults
>all of Jeffs posts are nothing but personal insults
Fuck off Jeff. Go shill your shit twitter bait somewhere else

>>136804712
It's not me. I'm not Jeff. This isn't about Jeff, that would be ad hominem (which race realists apparently love). This is about facts.

>>136804632
>Swedes are taller than Chinese
>"Nuh uh, it's the environment."
Really makes you think

>>136804691
so Africans are genetically isolated and not related to any other group?

>>136800486

I remember a textbook that said that the IQ of black children adopted into wealthy white families and given tons of support, was measured as similar to average white IQ.

What the IQ of white people adopted into wealthy white families and given tons of support was measured as, was not stated.

>>136801758
You realize you can outbreed within your own race right you fucking retard ?

>>136803054
To answer the first question literally, a species is a set of creatures who can interbreed. When a white and a black fuck, a viable baby results. Therefore they are the same species. It has nothing to do with whether that interbreeding is a good idea!

>>136803488
That's not true at all. A species is a group of animals that prefers to breed among themselves. The Galapagos finches are deemed separate species, yet they freely breed among each other now.

>>136804691
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/309/5741/1720

(2005) Mekel-Bobrov et al., conclude that the gene ASPM is a specific regulator of brain size, and its evolution in the lineage leading to Homo sapiens was driven by strong positive selection. They show that one genetic variant of ASPM in humans arose merely about 5.800 years ago in Eurasia and has since swept to high frequency across Eurasia under strong positive selection.

The gene is almost non-existent in Sub-Saharan Africa.

>>136804777
You're not Jeff, but you're definitely Carl.

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>>136800486
Reminder that this is what edgy /pol/acks talking about MUH WHITE SUPREMACY look like

>>136800486
as a long time kekistani MAGApede and an oldfag, I hate actual racists. We are a multicultural and multiracial country and no amount of stormweenie butthurt will change that. It's time to grow up and accept that

>>136800486
In my personal estimation the theories that IQ is mostly genetically determined are correct.
I could not explain my family history otherwise.
My ancestors were highly successful under Monarchy, after that they experienced a wealth reset with Communism (that also killed the largest part of my family).
Those who survived immediately became top 1%, fast forward 1990ties - wealth reset again.
My parents move to the West with barely more than the clothes we were wearing. Me and my brother are both top 1% today.
I simply cannot believe that this trait is not heritable, like the left likes to claim.

Aside from that, if this trait wasn't heritable then women would not be attracted towards and select men who are very intelligent.
Sexual selection would make no sense at all, why should they select for it if their offspring wont profit from their selection in any way?
No one denies that a persons height or physique is not heritable, which are also traits that women select for.
It's just not PC to state that evolution does of course also apply to the brain.

culture certainly plays a huge part

most flat-earthers come from one country

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this>>136804841
Salt Right types don't want to believe in anything other than racial supremacy. They want the handicap to exist, so that they can feel secure.

>>136804122
Why do I care if some black person tells me finally he considers society to be "healed"? I can just ignore him when he goes on about racial healing already, and that's good enough for me.

Besides they've had 50 years of affirmative action. Time to close that one out, about 35 years longer than people were promised was the maximum possible length back around 1965.

>>136805028
who the fuck is Karl? I'm a nobody from the UK but at least I'm not racist

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>>136804539
Yeah right, is a SJW lite faggot
the trans racial adoption studies actually shows whatever the environment they are closer to their racial group average.
Whoopee do a nigger scores a few more points raised by whites that probably because they are not dropping them on their heads constantly. The most interesting thing was how race mixed individuals scored between white and blacks

Isn't it widely accepted in the science community that genetics have a large influence on IQ? Why is it so hard to believe that some races evolved with a lower IQ over time? It is accepted that black men have genetics that provide them with elevated testosterone, why can't we believe that their genetics (on average) provide them with a lower IQ? Evolution can play a massive roll in all of this depending on environmental factors from thousands of years ago.

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>Bash the fash, right gays??

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>>136805096
reminder this is what sjws who get triggered by a simple memo stating the obvious fact that men and women are biologically different look like

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>>136805452
>using the n-word unironically
You guys don't understand how you are perceived by the real world, that's why you lurk in the shadows here, achieving nothing.

>>136805533
Jeff isn't Antifa. He was a SHARP.
There's a big difference.

>>136802935
B-but xenophobia!!

also check confirmation numerics>>136805588

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*Correction, Sierre Leone and several others have misinterpreted IQ's based on small high quality sampling. SL = 71~

>Genetic aren't real guys

>>136805533
Racists have no place in politics. I am kekistani and voted for Trump, but racists are just as bad as leftists. Identity politics are WRONG!

>>136805403
thats the exact kind of attitude thats going to destroy america from the inside out, somewhere, a russian is laughing. if america is going to survive it must stick to its values of racial equality and ensure that the lowest members of their society receive the same opportunity as the highest, or you are no better than the british empire the nazis or the communists past true americans fought to destroy.

>>136805397
You think wealthy high functioning whites have an average white IQ?

>>136805665
You're just not that important.

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>>136800486
>a literally who is shilling his worthless opinion on his enemies

Really, nigger?

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>>136805588
What the actual fuck is a Jeff? Don't answer that, I do not care.

You're right about saying nigger in any variation though. The only actually funny kinds are the derivatives like snow nigger.

>>136805588
you are the same faggot that started the operationskeptic thread a /b/tard

>>136805665
The founders fought for a white nation and disappeared the indians. America was never about racial equality. Its a shitty forced meme people are now rejecting. The emma lazarus was added later on

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>>136805663
Answer quickly: does race exist?

Do biological factors account for behavioural substance and capability, as they do in every other breathing creature?

>>136804186
This and only this

>>136804841
The study literally showed the opposite. Black children adopted by white families still did not perform as well as whites, but they did perform better than children raised by black families.

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>>136805774
Caught. Pretty sure it's a democrat false flagging. The unironic association of Trump supporters to racists was the giveaway. They can't stay bluepilled for long.

>>136805751
everyone is important, regardless of race or origin. you are spitting in the face of your own nation

>>136805588
Over here in freedomland cunts say nigger all the time at uni, work and gym and nobody gives a fuck.
I call brown girls nigger when I fuck them and they love it.
Why are you such a fucking beta anon?

>>136805642
It is absolutely possible that some studies about the average IQ in some black countries are weak because of a small sample size.
But we all see the direct connection between IQ and economic success played out in the real world, whether on the micro level (individual) or on the macro level (nations).
These Subsaharan countries were not interfered with from the outside for thousands of years, yet their native languages are limited to 300-400 words and they didn't even know the wheel.
The state of these black societies never have been one of wealth and power, throughout history. (with the notable exception of Ethiopians who have European admixture)
Also with IQ tests like the Raven test (that uses no words, no math, needs no explanation, only shapes) are highly unlikely to be "biased" towards one race.

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>>136805844
Does more black people being in prison indicate criminality of blacks or racism of cops? America was a slav-owning nation, and their cops have a higher contingent of oppressive and authoritarian cops. Not hard ot figure out.
Maybe the same is true in interpreting low IQ as a product of environment rather than 'race realism'?
Salt Righters are SJWs in disguise.

>>136805844
>does race exist?
Of course not
>Do biological factors account for behavioural substance and capability
that doesn't matter. If we treated black like we treat whites, we would create a unified nation full of patriots, instead of having BLM and racist groups like that.

The ideal scenario would be that of creating a true melting pot where "race" is no longer even a factor because we interbred and created a new "race", as you call it.

Jeff Holiday has fucked black women and men.

>>136806102
Good for him. He's a fucking disgrace to his race and is contributing to the downfall of western society.

>>136806054
>If we treated black like we treat whites, we would create a unified nation full of patriots
this is simply not enough to heal the deep wounds and is nothing but a sneaky way to preserve the effective low caste of minorities. you are no better than the racists who just want to pretend the past never existed, amends must be made and the past cant be swept under the rug.

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>>136806019
you are just a neonazi flase flagging as kekistani. Fuck off racist idiot, and don't associate yourself with kekistan ever again

>>136806054
Problem is, young people view that differently. We want to get rid of black and brown people because we are not willing to pay the societal cost anymore.
How many centuries do these people have to live among us until they finally learn to speak English?
Asians (even brown ones like Indians) immigrate and they learn it within one generation.
They also create businesses and excel in science. And all that without affirmative action or any kind of support from us.

>>136806203
Aww settle down sweetie. Sounds like you just got cucked in an argument and you're understandably upset. It'll be okay.

>>136806197
You are not wrong, but if we pay any sort of reparations or give any extra help to downtrodden minorities, we'll also give more ammo to sAlt righters. They will complain about anti white racism and other shit.
We need to build an egalitarian nation as the founding fathers intended. No race crap comes into play, just pure American patriotism

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>>136806191
I know it threatens your superiority but you are going ton have to come to terms with it sooner or later.

>>136800486

that video is bullshit liberal propaganda

I live in Chicago and worked side by side with blacks.
just by working with them i can tell you for a fact they have lower IQ

>>136806372
Reparations are not necessary, just less racist attitudes. The disparity is being caused by people like this>>136806474

>>136806290
he didn't make any argument, just tried to discredit Jeff, which is a great guy and an intellectual giant
>>136806238
Young people are very accepting of minorities actually

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>>136805996
>It is absolutely possible

In this graphic, it uses a small sampling size. Keep in mind we've been doing these globally for over a century now. It's nothing new or short of evidence.

Are the tests skewed? Yes, in that certain groups can be made to show better results based on the aspect being tested. Even still, any general spread would demonstrate numbers similar to these. If I wrote the test based on what I value in intelligence, I'd score about average but the disparity would probably widen. I'm cognizant of that,and I'm glad you are too actually.

>Does more black people being in prison indicate criminality of blacks or racism of cops?

Find an area, anywhere using a database of your choice, where blacks aren't at the highest for rates of crimes and the lowest for IQ's. Anywhere in the world, over the last century. The Asians are in on white privilege too? The blacks hate the blacks in Africa? The sub-saharans are sabotaging themselves deliberately? How big does your conspiracy go?

>'race realism'

Leftist confirmed. You're right about everything not being hard to figure out, especially the disproportions. So does this mean German Shepherds aren't as discriminated against as other dogs-and that's why they're smarter?

>alt righters are SJWs in disguise.

Explain this, because there are two different versions of identity being conflated. One's ethnic and racially based, the other is based on things like being LGTBQP+. Ones bound in tradition, the other in contravention of tradition for the sake of allowing their "freak flags to fly". I could call anything identity politics, really, on the basis of everything having an identity.

>>136806517
I honestly think that racists should be tracked down by the state and sentenced to death. They undermine our nation

>>136806372
>we'll also give more ammo to sAlt righters
filthy racist this isnt about your privileged little white boy feud this is about centuries of murder and exploitation of innocent minorities and you are willing to pretend it never happened? There can be no egalitarian nation until the mistakes of the past are atoned for.

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>>136806054
>"If we treated black like we treat whites"
>mean while blacks get black only scholarships
>black crimes get blamed on white people
>black students can get segregated graduations

Are you blind?

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>>136806520
Jeff isn't an 'intellectual giant', he's just not a mental midget. It isn't hard to stop being racist, just treat people like you'd treat anyone else.

>>136806374
I'm not white, but okay. His actions will contribute to the death of his race, plain and simple. I don't have to be white to recognize that.

>>136800958

Jesus shills like you are pathetic. Fucking faggot nigger

>>136805452

Jeff Holiday has the word shitlord in his hat, yet he is evolution denying SJW dogma pusher.
"Evolution has affected all life on this planet, but not humans, because my muh feels and my need to virtue signal. You fucking nazis!"

>>136806598
You're clearly trolling/straw-manning to make Jeff look bad. All he's saying is that racism is environmental. Give the idea a chance, Jeff is presumably going to be uploading other videos on the subject. what if the Alt-Right is wrong on 'race-realism'?

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The leftists here really made me question things, but not in the way they want.

>>136805663

You are a fake shill faggot fucking liberal

>>136800486
Check out this based black man fucking my wife! Democrats are the real racists!!!

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>>136806781
Bingo. You've got it

>This thread
Are we being invaded by leftypol again? How can you call yourself leftypol if all you say and believe is never politically incorrect?

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>>136800486
>black IQ improves given the right conditions.
oh yes goyim, you just have to give them more gibs and rewrite history to fit your narrative and they turn into doctors and scientists.

Look racists, Blacks are more American than you Nazi shitcunts ever will be.
We should round up all racists and just to be sure all white "people" so we can erase microagressions.
PRAISE KEK XDDD

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>>136800958
>n-word
Holy shit, are you that cucked that even typing nigger on an anonymous image board is too much for you ?

>>136806690
Science denying faggots. All of these skeptics disregard any kind science that hurts their world view.

>>136806520
You are simply wrong on that, there have been polls from respected institutions like Ipsos that have shown that Gen Z whites would have voted 85%+ (boys) and 75%+ (girls) for Trump.
Trump RAN on get rid of immigrants and close the borders. Everyone knows that this was and still is his main appeal to voters.
Racism (or in group preference) is not some kind of sickness, it is the norm among any people on this world.
You have to expend significant resources and even threats in order to have people suppress this trait.
Since the monopolistic control of media and education has been broken by the Internet the main way of suppressing racism is gone.
It's not a question IF White nationalism will return, it is inevitable.
And you can see from history how that will work out. Segregation, that will be the future.
Only blacks are losers if we segregate by race, ask yourself why that is. Why are they the only ones that will fall to Africa level poverty immediately once this is enacted.

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>>136806978
Blacks were kept as slaves. I don't enjoy moralising but the word has an important history. Better not to use it.

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>>136800486
>black need white education to have any semblance of intelligence
>mfw

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>>136800486

>>136806606
>>136806628
>>136806747
sorry sAlt righter, but your false flag isn't working
here >>136806102 you are directly attacking Jeff in an effort to discredit him for his sexual preferences and to try and give sAlt righters more ammo.
I will ask you one last time to stop pretending to be kekistani when in reality you are just a fascist
>>136806781
I'm a classical liberal, yes. Does that trigger you right wing SJWs?

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>>136806977
>We should round up all racists and just to be sure all white "people" so we can erase microagressions.

Charismatic. Are you actually here posing as a leftist because you know this is how we get into beerhall putsch mode? Are you really an agitator on our side? It's like you're trying to build hype and therefore the spirit.

Or are you just here for other reasons, pic related?

>>136807063
Euros were enslaved by raiding sandniggers yet you're not running to their defense. Moreover, you suck off the latter and make excuses for terrorist attacks.

>>136802846
Wtf, Africa is one of the most resource rich areas in the word. It's full of prime farmland too. There was a reason that all European powers not too long ago fought tooth and nail for the land, and they created civilization. In modern times the Chinese are investing insane amounts of time and money into Africa for resources.

>>136807063
>not an argument
literally every race of people was enslaved by another at one point in time

>one black accounts for billions of blacks
You're stupid.

>>136800486
IQ is easy to damage but hard, basically impossible, to increase.

Many races such as the blacks don't necessarily have lower racial IQ, most of the lower average comes from the absolutely diabolical conditions that children are raised in, fatherlessness being one of the prime problems.

Still slight racial variances do exist.

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>>136807180
I only feel the need to address your point about me attacking Jeff. I support Jeff, I was referencing the fact that Jeff has fucked black people (of both sexes) to show it's nothing to be concerned about. Moralising to that extent is based in fear and insecurity.
Jeff can fuck who he wants without needing to care what sAlt righters think about it. You expose yourself as a prude, which has been Jeff's strategy there from the moment people have been accusing him of 'degeneracy.'

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>>136807253
Here you go m8

>>136807180
cloaking yourself in egalitarianism while advocating the continued persecution of POC, you racists never learn. these tricks do not fool anyone.

>>136807423
>IQ is easy to damage but hard, basically impossible, to increase.
Have you idiots even watched Jeff's video?
You sAlt righters love talking about facts, stats and graphs, but when they are presented to you and contradicted your bigoted world views, you just ignore them.
Fuck off nazi idiot

>>136801628
Careful, Swede. Gonna get the thought police sent to your shed.

Thanks for reminding me how bad /pol/ has become. Enjoy your white genocide, race traitors.

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>>136807432
>jeff obsession-the post

How about addressing real arguments? Like the fact racial prejudice excuse you use for Americans doesn't work every single other place in the world in the face of IQ/crime stats. Is everyone in the world in on it? Are sub-saharans / Bantu's sabotaging themselves? Does OP care about facts?

>>136807518
Who cares about this tattooed, degenerate nobody.

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Why are so many people taking this bait?

>>136807230
Wrond, slavery is a common element in African-American history, where "enslaved" Europeans only make up a very tiny percent of their population.
Let's also not forget that most European "slaves" didn"t continue living in Europe. Thus not experiencing the injustices African-Americans do on a daily basis.

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>>136807465
Equality does not exist in nature. We have a natural systems with natural rights. The only way to revoke inequality, the inequality increased with every advance in technology, is to manage it top down-which has ALWAYS lead to the most dire of consequences.

>>136807577
Btw: you can stop posting your own garbage on /pol/ now, Jeff. Or should I say Jeb! Get into an argument with an actual alt-rightist like Millennial Woes. But you will not. Because you, like the entire rest of the alt-light, are moral and personal cowards. You are weak, you have no character and you are a traitor in mind as in action.

>>136804122
Why do you people always act as if every single white person ever has a slave owning ancestor?

Most whites didn't benefit from slavery at all. The people you should be pointing your finger at are the same ones brainwashing you into thinking these falsehoods.

The shadow elite have always been the ones to profit off suffering, then and now.

>>136807432
I see. Sorry for assuming you were attacking him. He's a great person and I would feel horrible if Alt right idiots false flagged in an effort to discredit him.
>>136807465
I do not want to persecute POCs! How am I doing that?

>>136807430
So your argument is that you can cherrypick an "attractive" white woman and an "ugly" aboriginal woman and that means race is real and nonwhites are subhuman?

OP is trolling.

Studies have already shown what environment does. Biology trumps it.

Nice try faggot.

>>136807253
I'm pretty sure that you can't explain away the course of history without assuming the hierarchy of races. Oh, blacks were enslaved? why? They had worse military and technology so they weren't able to defend themselves. And why were they worse in those areas? Surely if they were on the same levels of advancement they'd be able to repel the attack. After all, we're all one race, the human race, so technological advancements should happen within similar timeframe everywhere in the world, right?

>>136807696
Not even then is it possible. You are unequal to a blind person, a blind person is unequal to a quadriplegic.
You'd need to blind or otherwise harm people on purpose to make that happen.

>>136802606
>Their paper, which has not yet been published,

An unpublished paper. So convincing.

Meta analysis is tricky and hard to get right. Especially if you are a SJW with a political agenda.

>>136807430

I find it fascinating that they'll admit these three things. (1) Genes affect IQ (because no one can deny there are geniuses, regards, etc.) (2) Race is a social construct. So, we could socially construct one or a million different races. (3) Even though individual IQ differs and we can socially construct race however we want, the average IQ of all socially constructed races will be the same.

>>136807628
So what's stopping them from coming back to african black utopias. I'm certain you're baiting at this point

>>136807588
Sure a picture would be objective right haha.
STFU racist salt light piece of shit

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>if you give someone something it proves they are capable of having/creating it

If niggers are so smart then why do they need their white oppressors to teach them anything? They've had the same amount of time as whites (probably more actually) and yet they never invented a fucking wheel.

Look at the abos for fuck sake. What is it? Like 40,000 years and their greatest inventions are a curved stick for hunting and a big hollow stick for blowing into to make """music""".

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>>136807757
>race is real
yes, are you denying evolution?
>nonwhites are subhuman?
no

>>136807518
I'm watching it now, so far the only point he's made in 2 minutes is that some people have an agenda, he hasn't actually addressed any of the claims about racial differences or offered any rebuttal to them.

If your first prong of attack is assigning perceived motivation to your opponent as a method of character assassination, then you've lost before you've even started.

>>136807856
Why should African Americans go back to Africa?
Their ancestors have been here way longer than yours. Their labor contributed immensely to this country.
How would you like it if I told you to fuck off to your country?

>>136800486
>22 posts by this ID
>Kekistani flag
>Promoting centrist ideas
OP I am worried about your mental health. Such excessive amounts of faggotry can not be good.

>>136807722
over generations the races have been segregated into a caste system due to racist attitudes and unequal treatments like microaggressions. you may not know it but your white privilege gives you a great advantage that will only divide society and doom it to failure.

>>136807742
you refuse to make proper amends for the past and return what was stolen, you just pretend to be egalitarian so people wont notice all the wealth and power you have from killing and oppressing POC

>>136808025
Because we whites can make it happen. That is why, no other reason needed.
This is how every nation was created, some people always had to go.

IQ is linked more to wealth and education status than anything else anyway.
Plus, the differences between the races are not statistically significant.

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>>136807767
>Studies have already shown what environment does

Basically every study. Exactly right.

>>136807824
You could arbitrarily give everyone the same outcome, regardless of merit. That is what leftists want. That's the end goals. If you and the quadriplegic black transgender are working in a mill, you both make the same and it has a better chance of advancing on the basis of it's oppressions

>>136807863
So you can respond. How about you respond to all of those studies we're throwing in your face? The ones with a worldwide century long sample size that say genetics work in humans like every other living creature?

>Muh Blank Slate
>Muh Noble Savage

All these myths have been dispelled by recent scientific findings.

You inherit more than 70% of your intelligence. Checkout the twins separated at birth studies.

>>136807983
Race is real is quite a broad and confusing statement. Especially on this site, where it often implies nonwhites are subhumans. I'm glad you don't subscribe to those wrong thoughts.
There are indeed some minor differences between races, but nothing is really significant. it's mostly concentrated on shallow physical traits.
>>136808090
>Whites can make it happen
It would be against your own interest, causing a civil war destroying your economy.
But I'm not afraid , the demographics are already too late for you.

>>136808335
And the difference noted is much smaller than that. Glad we agree. Btw there are tons of black people in France who don't cause problems.
>>136808127
Watch this video my man, it will destroy you.
But you salt righters are cowards so I knw you wont.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7JFSuywr0

>>136804122
And I'm telling you, NO. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. They are free now. That was their reparation. If they don't like it they can leave.

>>136808025
>Their labor contributed immensely to this country.
Cotton picking and farm tools with mouths? Both jobs can be automatised and slavery only postponed the process
>How would you like it if I told you to fuck off to your country?
I'm an Englishman in England you faggot. I'm in my country. The fact is that if it wasn't for your scapegoat of white imperialism, niggers would never have been enslaved by them, thus they'd never have to care about making it illegal, which would mean there'd be even more slaves. If you took time to look into history books, you'd realise that abolitionism is a white invention

>>136800486
>. Even Thomas Sowell demonstrated that black IQ improves given the right conditions.
>right conditions

Oh right that's why the western IQ is gone so much up in recent decades? That's why chinese are so smart because they have much better conditions than western world?
You're all so full of shit.

>>136800486
>black IQ improves given the right conditions

What, like when given 40,000 years of evolution and having to learn how to survive harsh winters?

>>136808651
European winters are quite mild especially compared to Asian and American countries.

>>136808460
Sure, it would destroy our economy to get rid of parasites.
The US would be without debt if there were no blacks or latinos in the country.

Also, you are very shortsighted if you believe that your people have won.
There is no hope for your people to win a real conflict with whites. There never was, there never will be.

>>136805753
>latvia
What the hell, sixtoes?

>>136808607
No, I'm not. The video explains that the data can be interpreted in favor of the opposite of what you are suggesting.
One thing that Jeff does get right though, is that you are a triggered SJW on this issue. Why become so emotional about this subject? Do you not think it is possible that environment could effect IQ, or that slavery could undermine intelligence? Where did the Pyramids come from?

>>136800818
>Africa was a great place for society to thrive

>desert
>extreme heat
>disease
>lions

Nice

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my numerics are interesting here, take heed>>136808808

>>136808814
>Europe

>mountains
>extreme frigidity
>plagues
>bears

Wew

>>136808774
Ich bin kein Amerikaner.
I was baiting for a second, but seriously theres no real hope man, just enjoy the ride.

>>136808460
>tons of black people that don't cause problems.

Kek. Sure. 50% of people with aids are black. More than 80% of our prisons are filled with non whites. Our welfare state is about to crumble because there are too many immigrants. Sucker cell diseases. Tuberculosis making a come back. Female gangs, guess which race? Drug dealing. Bush meat smuggling. Voodoo cases. Mass conversion to evangelist sects. I could go on.

>>136808814
I just smell theres a retarded nigger behind this post.

>>136808814
>desert

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>>136808460
>Race is real is quite a broad and confusing statement

Why is this so hard for you? Look up haplogroups and the breakdown of alleles. There are obvious group differences. Every part of your personality is derived from a chemical reaction, and intelligence has a baseline min/max with variability based on potential findings.

>it's mostly concentrated on shallow physical traits

The is a essentially an argument for ignorance. We show you attitude differentials indicated by crime (which is global, not American so you can't blame prejudice), and IQ to demonstrate baselines (well established over the century of worldwide studies) and you immediately defer back to ignorance and blaming white people(who have been more accommodating than ever before or necessary).

>But I'm not afraid , the demographics are already too late for you.

R H O D E S I A

>Watch this video my man, it will destroy you.

The man opens up with leftist talking points from the get go, while calling out bias. Ironic

>"It's so hard! It's complicated..."

He crafted a narrative that there are people you need to defend, and you were so busy trying to fight for moral superiority you didn't even realize you were the one that fell into the superiority complex.

Ask anyone here why race matters?

It's because it's truth. Essentially, leftists are projecting their need for superiority onto their opponents and arguing against their own mentality by prescribing their reasoning to their enemies.

>>136808895
Je suis prêt a tuer tous les negres si le moment arrive
Le meme avec les musulmans

>>136800486
>black IQ improves given the right conditions
ARE YOU SUGGESTING EUGENICS ANON?

Niggers just don't realize whites aren't the only ones that hate them.

>>136809068
Les renvoyer chez eux comme ils ont fait avec nous dans les colonies en 1960 et 1962. Jai des oncles d'Algérie. Ils diront la même chose dans 30 ans : "Mon oncle est né en France..."

Quelle malediction de partager la même langue qu'eux. Quelle idée d'apporter la "civilisation"...

>>136806686
>>136806978
He meant neanderthal. Off yourselves

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>>136808808
>"Why become so emotional about this subject?"

Implying you aren't. And we're passionate about the truth of things, unfiltered by emotional shaming that your side relies on.

>that slavery could undermine intelligence?

Look at IQ's of blacks in America, and blacks in Africa. Look at the IQ of Liberia, a country for black people by black people. Notice that the ones that were slaves the longest often have the highest IQ's.

>Where did the Pyramids come from?

Semites. Middle eastern peoples populated and built most of norther African culture. Look at the languages, almost all except by recent migrations are at least partially semitic. Sub-Saharans are the black Africans you're referring to. Sub literally means "below", below Sahara. That's where black Africa is.

Friendly reminder genetic testing proved that ancient Egyptians had more in common with western Europeans than black Africans.

>>136808808
>The video explains

I ain't giving clicks to some tool.

>Why become so emotional about this subject?

That's my point. Just accept the facts. Niggers are dumber than average whites. The unnecessary debate was started by emotional "sceptics".

>Do you not think it is possible that environment could effect IQ

Sure, but conditions may only lower your avg IQ not raise potential IQ. Your score will still be lower than askhenazi jews or chinese even under perfect conditions.

>or that slavery could undermine intelligence?

Whites have been enslaved in history and turned out quite alright. How long blacks have been free from egyptians? What did they accomplish? Nothing.

>>136800486
Fundamentally ALL IQ increases given the right conditions, not inside 1 person or generation but slowly over time. That's obvious because of the fact that many thousands of years ago we had very limited cognitive abilities and today we have higher order abstract thinking, that requires a high IQ.

One of the prevailing ideas about where high IQ came from was moving out of the planes of Africa to colder climates north. There are many places where winters are harsh and food and other sustenance cannot grow easily. That means you need to be able to save your seeds and a certain amount of your crops through winter and then re-plant the next year.

This is basically deferral of gratification, sacrificing in the short term for a long term benefit, it's one of the single best predictor of IQs in children. Give a child a sweet and tell them they can have a 2nd sweet for free, if they can leave the first one alone for 15 minutes. Kids who pass this (not many) grow up to have much higher measureable IQs. It forms the basis of investment later in life where you save and invest for the future return.

Among broad differences in population, only those with higher IQs could move and live further north, it's a type of natural selection. Those who tried and didn't have the ability to defer gratification with regards to saving grain would die out in harsh winters. As we moved north we didn't have the need for higher melanin content in our skin due to less direct sun and that's how we got higher IQ whites in Europe.

Blacks in say the USA, they moved there directly from Africa, they didn't go through the same process of being naturally selected for higher IQs, they moved into a civilized society which had solved the problem of agriculture for the most part, and so the IQ of the black population in America is substantially less.

Environment matters, but so does context.

>>136809035
Haplogroups dont even mean something I could make a half african son and he would still carrry my haplogroup, in fact you could get a 99percent niggger with the same haplogroups as you.
Well nigger Crime isnt a global thing, Portugal has shitloads of niggers and they are one of the safest countries in the world.
AFrican countries suffer from a lack of civilization, which they could be thought easily if deemed necessary.
> muh Rhodesia
Kek you pick the one example where all whites where slaughtered/driven out?
Also why do you think the demographics will get similar to Rhodesia; it was like 98 percent nig
>Race is truth
Saying doesnt make it so
I only defend my fellow African Americans since they are discriminated against on unfair grounds. If this discrimination ceases theres no reason to make them not accountable for their actions

>>136809501
Am on a vacation btw

>>136802606

Except for the plethora of separated identical twin studies that have been done which validate the very high percentage genetic component of IQ and also raise the concern of the significance of socioeconomic status ( spoiler :: IQ evens out into adolescence in the separated identical twins regardless of their upbringing and socioeconomic status ) Which absolutely undermines your entire argument and is an accumulated and up to date outside source.

>>136809225
Thats one of the most unjust things for me. That it's regarded as ok or Good that the French got driven out of Algeria, but suggesting giving them the same treatment is immoral.

>>136800958
>promoting your own channel
>pretending youre anon
lamefag detected

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>>136809501
>half african son and he would still carrry my haplogroup

Close

>in fact you could get a 99percent niggger with the same haplogroups as you

Explain that one, because that's full of shit so far as I can reason it.

>"Kek you pick the one example where all whites where slaughtered/driven out?"
>Win majority of battles, every major conflict
>...For 14 years straight
>lose because of political clout, the rest of the world wants the blacks to win out and don't recognize the white people
>What a surprise most of the UN is blacked with sheer votes
>White people see the jig is up,they've been sold out on the international stage. Pack up and start leaving

>African Americans since they are discriminated against on unfair grounds

Think this one through for a minute. Suppose we're right, you don't have to believe it but just imagine it. If we're right about race putting certain people at a handicap in certain areas against other peoples(like we see everywhere else in nature), wouldn't revealing that truth be considered discrimination? Wouldn't that perpetuate the evil your trying to stamp out? How would you recognize it if it were true? We've already pointed to century long global studies. We've already pointed out to other factors like Africa's supremely rich lands and slaves having higher IQ's than countries that had less slaves. How would you be able to independently figure out if this is true or not?

>>136808882
To be fair, africas development was fucked after that ancient lake dried up in the north, left half the continent arid.

>>136801758
>Maybe if you stopped being racist for five minutes you would know that environment actually does improve IQ.
You seem to be ignoring that the negative effects of environment which select for traits better suited for that environment, can be mitigated by civilization.

You can be born literally retarded in modern societies and that society will take care of you through welfare, which means the same selections pressure that geographical environment had thousands of years ago no longer exists, or is severely mitigated.

>>136800486
Leave a white man free for 3000 years and you'll find towers of ivory and ebony, filled with scriptures of philosophy. Leave a yellow man free for 4000 years and you'll find steady palaces with quirky inventions. Leave a black man free for 5000 years and you'll find him unchanged, as if no time has passed.

>>136800486

The bell curve wasn't new and scientific shattering research. IQ and race differences were established decades before the book came out. It's as scientific as evolution. There's been plenty of studies post the bell curve that also reaffirm the scientific validity of IQ disparities with race. You are either a science denier or entirely ignorant on the matter and arguing purely from a moral bias as an ignoramus. The data has been established for decades.

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>>136809945
I for example carry haplogroup R1-B
If i have a half Arican son it will still have the same paternal haplogroups (thanks to the Y chromosome, which women lack). This proces could go on forever as long as the next descendant is a son.
Also haplogroups are a complete meme
Look at pic related

>>136807757
Find me an attractive abbo woman

>>136807985
this.
I'm not giving this faggot Portlander my views.
He proved he knows nothing of the subject with his last attempt, trying to unironically debunk IQ.

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>>136800486
>Niggers are not dumb goyim, look even our...I mean your scientists agree on it.
Debunked by almost everything they did in history of men.

>>136804906
>he keeps parroting this
Heads up retard, that was never what made a species

>tigers and lions are now the same species because they can breed and produce fertile offspring
this is you

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>>136809501
>>136809068
>I only defend my fellow African Americans since they are discriminated against on unfair grounds.
>Je suis prêt a tuer tous les negres si le moment arrive
Why the LARP?

>>136800741
Ironically having few friends
staying up late
and generally being anxious and autistic

Are all confirmed signs of higher intelligence....

>>136810532
Genuinely interested in what arguments would be presented.

(( skeptics )) has gotta fucking go man, what virtue-signalling attention whores. Fuck em all.

>>136810258
I see where the problem is. R1-B is not a single allele- so it's limited in proportion. You'll sometimes notice pie charts of those proportions in these studies. So if you mate with a different haplogroup, your son will have far less of your specific traits. When two Europeans mate-most of the time they already have proportions of one another's alleles, so there's no real loss, it's just shifting what's already there. If a Northern European mates with an African, or an African (sub-saharan) with a Japanese person-obviously there's going to be one or the other. The proportions aren't likely to be even or similar, and you have a child that looks and/or acts drastically different than one of the parents.

Thus, if you have a half African son, and your line continues to mate with Europeans instead, that proportion and grouping is lost-and the descendants will behave to fit the dominant software.

>Also haplogroups are a complete meme

So genes are bullshit? They're fake? They have no impinging effect on human circumstances, like health issues? Roger that. There's no getting through to you in this case.

Also, that haplogroups are exclusive, if that's what you're referring to. That's actually proof there are different races.

>>136810320
These threads really bring out you ESL dumbasses.

nice bait OP

>>136805096
so what?
he's a programmer. programming is supposed to be the realm of people who are basically brains on legs. and a programmer that's also good at persuasive writing and actually documents and cites things is definitely a genius.

beauty and intelligence are different wide scales but the most beautiful and most intelligent people are white.

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>some environmental factors impact IQ
>therefore genetics are irrelevant
I think the leftist intellectuals might be onto something

>>136810258
Haplogroups and mitochondrial DNA are just the least bad tools we have for tracking which populations have some level of common ancestry, since both are immutable across generations except with random mutation. Looking at SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphisms) you can estimate the degree of overlap.

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>>136800486
OP debunked in 1 pic

>>136810258
>genes are a meme
>I carry R1-B, my son will have it
>therefore I'm just like European
Holy fuck neck yourself.

>>136800818
Central Africa is terrifying from epidemiological point of view. Can't be smart after Tsetse fly bite. Reminder that whites who colonized Africa in 19th century (before real medicine) were dying like flies there. Read biography of African travelers or colonists, they end "died from African decease". Only R-selection.

>>136801628
>Yes they have gone up some 10 points compared to the days of slavery or back in Africa, and that's exactly as expected of how much the enviroment can affect your IQ.
Have studies isolated it to be environment vs bleaching?

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>>136800486
A kid - if left alone amongst wolves - will start behaving like a wolf. Does that mean it is no longer human?
It's not about what people can achieve when given everything humanly possible to achieve it but rather what they can achieve on their own. Which is what whites did and blacks didn't.
Everybody knows that IQ is only 50-80% nature and 20-50% nurture.
Saging btw

>>136810811
>misses the word "the"
>must be a dumbass

Ok.

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>>136811014
and the whole thing

>>136811014
If only it were that easy. OP doesn't like that social factors might be determined partially by genetics, so no evidence counts if it disagrees with them.

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>>136811011
Its indeed the least bad but lots of people take it way too far.
For example lots of people on here believe that "Italians look like Arabs due to haplogroups" not reallizing looks are mostly caused by autosomnal DNA.
>>136810805
>>136810805
Haplogroups just serve to indicate common ancestor
>>136811164
Pic related is for you

You cant make up this level of faggotry, kekistanis are normies camoed as edgy outsiders.

>>136807063

Fuck off nigger

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>>136811014

>>136800486
none of the """sceptics""", is dating a nigger, even some black nigger is dating a white girl. but race isn't real y'all

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Muh, all equals.

>>136804691
>by Wikipedia

>>136800486
Nigger

>>136809962
Nothing below the Sahara, yes? No resources at the coasts, no. No other lakes, certainly not. They are just poor workers discriminated by the white man, not white women of course, that would be sexist

>>136800486
>given the right conditions

GIVEN, PLEASE GIVE ME

We worked for it. We strived to be the best, the smartest and this is the result. We weren't given the best conditions, we created them. There's no one stopping other people from doing the same.

>>136800486
Have fun trying to educate niggers till their average IQ is above clinically retarded. This guy has obviously never taught in an urban school in America.

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>>136800486
>>136802307
>>136802622
>>136808607
This is one of the few things Sowell was wrong about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODZ-RUufHgI

>>136816379
violence in urban schools and at home is the cause of poor schooling in those areas, violence lowers IQ

>>136800486
Repatriation or Race War

>Helmuth Nyborg, professor emeritus of the University of Aarhus, begins by pointing out the clear relationship between distance from the equator and both brain size and intelligence. At or close to the equator, the average IQ is 69, whereas at a latitude of 54 degrees the average is 98. Prof. Nyborg observes that races could be logically be classified as “eco-types,” since their traits reflect the ecological niches in which they evolved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02vvYDxXQ3w

>>136803745
Spacing holy shit

>>136804841
(((textbook)))

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>>136818680
)))FACTS(((
you nazis are way too predictable

>>136800486
Sargon's decent and all, but christ his fanboys like you are absolute cancer

>>136817211

Violence is caused by low IQ.

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>>136804841

>I member
How about you post a source not shit you pulled out of your arse.

>>136819042
Exactly, it's a cycle. Give it some thought.

>>136819106
You are in error.

>>136819115

No it isn't a cycle. Violence does not lower IQ, if you claim that provide proof.

>>136819154

>you are in error

Are you a bot?

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>>136819042
>Violence
>not getting caught red handed because of criminal activity
Violence is pure, you fucking gypsy.

>>136819275

>Violence is pure
Tell me that when you have actually been in a fight.

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>>136802638
Thats how their average got from 70 to 85.

>>136807423
Where do you people come from? Go back.

>>136819326
Are you fucking kidding me?
You must be 18 to post here.

>>136801249
Tbh they should create a country for people with Down syndrome only and see how well it fares after half a century.

>>136819666

Nigger you don't have the balls to show your own flag. How the hell have you ever been in a fight?

>>136819773
>Nigger you don't have the balls to show your own flag.
>hurrr
I was posting before these handpick flags come along.
But I wasn't getting much replies to be frank. Plus, I actually do like my ideological flag.
>How the hell have you ever been in a fight?
Who isn't?

>>136818938
You mean hate facts. I know it hurts anon, nature is cruel.

>>136800741
have you seen what this fag looks like?

he looks like a smelly hobo, the ones you see on the side of the road with a sign, a squeegie and an emaciated dog that they neglect due to a heavy drug addiction

he doesn't even argue science, just feels. What makes this guy an expert on anything other than shooting heroin?

>>136800486
>Muh outlier Thomas Sowell proves that black IQ improves given the right conditions
Being an exception to the rule doesn't prove anything you retarded nigger
Learn statistics

>>136820001
His wife is hotter than yours. She is also a 'hobo' or ex-hobo and both of them also probably have more friends than you because they are comfortable with themselves.

>>136820038
guys a 30 year old who still dresses like a crust punk, how the fuck does he have a following?

>>136820086
It's so obvious that you're talking about yourself

Look, no one gives a fuck what some dirty fuck e-celeb has to say. You don't argue science you argue around outliers and exceptions. Now fuck off self promoting nigger.

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>this thread
Kek, you guys love setting up wins for leftypol dont you?
Source: APA
https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-67-2-130.pdf

>>136820086

Are you a bot?
If not I don't know what's sadder you sucking another man's dick, for free. Or you being that man and defending your self on 4 chins.

>>136820093
most 30-year-olds suffer from a Peter Pan complex

>>136820186
fuck that was guud

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>>136820186
Was this you? You sound like this guy. Also note that I am not Jeff in this pic.

This guy argument is very easy to debunk. The way to debunk this argument is to display how non western nations dont mind breeding with their 1st cousins and siblings.

There is a lot of inbreeding in non western nations. Thankfully the west has laws against this shit.

"When given the right environment" essentially means when white people take the lead. When white people are the teachers, professors, bosses, leaders, then niggers suddenly find things easier.

>>136820168
>Source: APA
>American Psychiatric Association Reclassifies Pedophilia, Backtracks

The American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) decision to once again reclassify pedophilia has led to further concerns that the professional organization is attempting to legitimize the disorder, paving the way for its defense and the recommendation of removal of age-of-consent laws.

>>136802307
While I don't disagree with the chart, it looks worse for blacks than it is because of the vertical axis showing population disparity (nothing to do with IQ). It should be adjusted to equalize population.

>>136820471
when they cant breed with their family members. Thank you western civ for this law.

>>136820360

>Was this you
Nigger do you not know how to read a flag?
>Also note that I am not Jeff in this pic.
Why do you need to assure me?
You are implying that you are.

>>136800486
>>136800741
I will be finished my PhD in Microbiology, I frequently work with geneticists in my research. There is not one person in our lab that thinks genetics doesn't influence intelligence.

Sorry, take your retard e-celeb social science trash and can it. Sage.

>>136820471

Well during segregation blacks did have a lower divorce rate and single mother rate then even whites during that time.

But even then that won't give them the same IQ level as whites.

>>136800958
>emotional rejection of facts because of"muh offense"
Are you a grill?

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>>136805665
>somewhere, a russian is laughing
The NAACP was founded by Jews the first 6 presidents were Jews.
The Soviet Union was behind the "civil rights" movement. They wanted to encourage "equality" to turn USA into a brown country and watch it fade from relevance.

>>136800486
1 Smart nigger doesn't make all niggers Smart, history has proven that they can't achieve anything on their own. Crackers are more intelligent than niggers and chinks are more intelligent than Crackers. Its just how it is, you can spread libtard lies trying to deny facts just like they're trying to make everyone believe that islam is a peaceful religion but statistcs and history ultimately proves you Wrong.

>>136820484
The problem with the black population is welfare/global welfare. I would love to fix this issue but white cucks like this only want to give free food and never allow the black population to figure it out on their own.

>>136820580
pretty much this. The reason why American blacks do so much better is because we have laws against incest.

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>>136820754
how is that data collected? Are they going off of stats or total population? Also do they do the whole white Hispanic crap?

>>136820841

It's fucking Europe you tato.

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>>136805663
You don't like identity politics because your being shamed for your race and would like to just forget about it. It's the easiest way out of the mind trap constructed by Jews that (((they))) catch so many people in.

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>>136800486
The (((right conditions)))

Pic related

>>136802638
Yeah I was thinking about it too recently. The thing is, he looks more "black" than "white", at least at first sight, given some facial features, his hair, a kinda tanned skin, and so on. You know... Amerifags.

>>136820926
what's the point to post same image for hundreds times?

are you expecting to trigger people?

>>136820580
This. I'm dating a biologist and she's the most hilariously racist person I've ever met.

>>136820481
Not an argument against my study. Watch the rest of the trumptards ignore it as well because it doesnt fit their retarded narrative

>>136820580
Phd.

"Sage."

riiiight.

>>136820926

First of you are reusing the OP pic, second of all.
>denying history
From the Age of Exploration till the 20th century all the major world powers were European, after the 20th century only two Asian ones.