How would you modify the qualifications to vote if you could?

>>136794207
land

Based on who pays taxes. Gibs will go out the window, this would basically be the politically correct way of barring niggers from the polling stations.

raise the voting age to 25

No niggers, women, or Irish.
Everything was pretty much fine and dandy until those cunts got the vote.
Also to ensure that scheming Jews never give the vote to niggers, women and Irish again I suppose we should ship all the Jews east and confiscate their gold.

>>136794207
race

>>136794207
Only men can vote.

>>136795604
why no Irish?

>>136794207
you have to pay taxes to vote

if you vote for the wrong candidate you get your hands cut off and can't vote again desu

>>136794207
Lets start with proper identification and proof of residence. From there we should have a mandatory background check before the vote is counted. Even that makes me look extreme now, though. We have gone so far from what the founding fathers knew was needed to have a highly functional society that it's more a matter of what needs to exist to barely hold things together.

>>136794207
only white, male, men, with children or military service for 4 years or more
also since this is murica they must be AT LEAST 75% genetically british or french with a max of 3% nonwhite
watch as our country once again prospers

>white males only
>18+
>can not vote if considered a dependent on tax forms(i.e. parents) or receiving government gibs
>must be employed full-time or part time if going to college

>just saved America.

>>136795681
The decline of the British Empire coincided with Catholic emancipation and the seeds of American decline were sown at Tammany Hall.
The Irish are drunken idiots who always vote for the most gibs.
That is why a few thousand British conquered India but Ireland is ruled by one Pajeet poo pusher.

>>136794207
He witnesed the failure of democracy and capitalism and still wants voting....kek.Totalitarian is the way to go.

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>>136794207
No women
Only natives
Only working people

>>136796129
So the Irish are the niggers of Britain?

>>136794207
Only whites.

>>136794207
No English, Welsh, Cornish, Germans, French, Irish, "Belgian", Scottish, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mexican, Central American, South American, Cuban, Caribbean, Hawaiian, Canadian, Native American, Indian, Pakistani, Arab, Bedouin, Persian, African, Aboriginal, Mormons, Cultists, Catholics, Protestants, Atheists, Islamists, Jewish, Himyar, or Pacifists/Conscientious Objectors.

>>136794207
Land owning taxpayers only, this would fix a lot of states issues as well. If you receive any gov assistance youre not allowed to vote for 10 years after your last gibs. Woman's suffrage was the biggest mistake this country made. I'd gladly give up my right, considering it isn't worth anything since woman can only vote with their hearts and not heads. They lack forethought just like nigs.

>>136796129
>says the convict

>>136796273
>land owning
I guess fuck renters, right?

35+

Whites in good standing - not property based because the America of the past is, alas, not the America of today.

>>136796096
best one itt

>>136794207
Must pay taxes.

>>136794207
one per household. In a case of room-mates and similar and/or extenuating circumstance, exceptions given. No welfare recipients, higher age, about 21 -25, considering avg. human lifespan should be 100 if they live well enough, must pass a political literacy test (with an extremely large testbank, so nobody can just roll the test early on). No publicly elected or specially appointed officials, no lobbyists for life.

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>>136794207

If you pay more in tax than you receive in government aid then you get to vote.

This would basically take the parasites out of the decision making process of what to do with your money. Get rid of the welfare state and everyone gets to vote even if they pay no taxes.

>>136794207
make voting poll only available via internet porn site

>>136796399
Renters have no stake in the game on local issues. Do you care if property tax is raised to funnel money into the NEA under the guise of better schools. Of course not you don't pay it. Renters lack roots in the community. You have kids and realize the school sucks you move a few blocks over to a better district, a homeowner can't do that.

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>>136794207
A logically coherent explanation based on factual evidence must accompany your vote.

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>>136796693
>must pass a political literacy test
Don't even think about that. Changing the definition of "political literate" would be very fucking easy.

Only people who make more than $100k annually should be allowed to vote. Anyone else has absolutely no stake in the success or failure of the country as a whole and will just vote for whoever doles out the most gibs.

>>136795431
this, although ideally (((democracy))) could be done away with entirely.

>>136794207
Raise voting age
Need to be employed
No women voters

>>136795268
FPBP

>>136794207
Only land-owning white men between the ages of 24 and 75 with children, and have had at least 3 years in full time employment out of the previous 5 calendar years.

It may seem complex, but it controls for all factors so degenerates and those who are unsound of mind can't vote.

>>136794207
House owners

>>136794207
I wouldn't go as far as taxpayer, just not on social assistance.

Also, I would set up a system where a person's vote would have more weight than your average uninformed voter if they could demonstrate stakeholder status. Say a measure is introduced to increase property taxes to fund grade school extracurricular programs. Property owners would have their votes count double because they have a stake in this issue, as would voters who have children enrolled in public schools. A property owner who also has children attending public school would count triple. To prevent a tyranny of majority scenario, uninformed voters are welcome to educate themselves on the pros and cons of the measure, limited to 10 strongest points from each side as put forth by their respective lobbyists. After passing a simple test, which will consist of listing all 20 points, their vote would count double. If you want to remain ignorant and just piss away your vote, have fun being irrelevant.

This system discourages mindless participation and encourages voters to educate themselves on current issues.

>>136794207
You have to pay taxes and be able to name specific policy positions of each candidate.

>>136794207
non-compulsory

i will vote for a legitimate nazi party if there is one, that is how much i disdain being fuckin FORCED to vote for a bunch of cunts when i dont even like any of em

i just vote as far right as possible

>>136796748
>implying people only ever vote on local issues
You don't think I care who represents me in Congress? You don't think I care who the President is? You don't think New Yorkers have a stake in their communities? Your views are narrow and misguided, fool.

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>>136796977
>(((democracy))) could be done away with entirely.
and what would your ideal form of government be?
>inb4 Nat. Soc.

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>>136794207
Must personally possess or be the trustee overseeing at least $2,000,000 USD.

>>136797055
I like that, covers all the bases.

No women, raise age to vote to 21 and proof of income

Do you get an income tax return or do you owe?

Only those that pay can vote

>>136797233
>what would your ideal form of government be
Fascism, but with some tweaks. :^)

>>136797233
>not liking Nat Soc

Found the redditor

>>136794207
Easy. No women, age limit raised to 25.

>>136796748
When landlords' taxes are raised that typically leads to a raise in the rent. Renters are affected by property tax too.

>>136796096
What about disabled vets who met that criteria prior to being injured

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Legal residents only.
Taxpayers only.
Legal ID required.
As a Wisconsin resident it was really funny how our state went red suddenly when Walker introduced voter ID laws right before the 2016 election

>>136795882
>From there we should have a mandatory background check before the vote is counted.
>>136796797
>A logically coherent explanation based on factual evidence
>>136796693
>must pass a political literacy test

ITT: /pol/ voting against itself

>>136797378
>tweaks
do explain; I'm genuinely curious

>>136797386
>>not liking Nat Soc
I never said that

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citizens only. citizenship must be earned through military or civil service.

>>136797220
>NYC Jew detected
New Yorkers have chosen so well for themselves, that state has never been red in my lifetime. And you maggots in the cities screw over the people in the northern part of the state. Even your R govs and mayors are liberal trash.

>male
>25+ (or 18 when married with children)
>must have had atleast 8 years of education
>written exam on history and how the political system works before each vote
>no criminal history
>no gibs

This should weed out all subhumans.

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>>136797233

>>136797679
Heinlein pls go

>must pay taxes

What do u faggots mean? Even the worst nigs in society pay sales taxes on the cherry flavored blunt wraps they buy at 7/11. Are you idiots referring to income tax, property tax, or what?

>>136797679
Gay as fuck to be a subservient slave to the State instead of a freeman. Before you insult me, I was a Blackheart.

>>136794207

land owners (vested interest in the country itself)

Raise voting age to 21
Have last year copy of w2 or most recent pay stub to verify taxable income
Make sure grade 12 high school features neutral grounded political science class as federal mandate before graduating or getting a GED paid with tax payer dollars

No niggers

>>136797454
Do you really think the average renter takes that into account? People protest sales tax hikes a lot more than property tax hikes.ive never seen a renter at a council meeting when a property tax issue comes up. But they are there for sales tax hikes.

>>136797527
>do explain; I'm genuinely curious
That was just a funpost desu. I was trying to work around your inb4NatSoc, lel.

>>136797679
This desu. Until you can prove that you can put the good of the group ahead of your personal intetests, you shouldn't get to vote.

>>136794207
Only taxpayers from ages 25 to 75.

>>136794207
Only allow tax payers to vote

>>136794207
end women's suffrage

>>136798034
>hey do you guys mean sales tax????
Are you being obtuse on purpose?

>>136794207
iq test. only 85 and below can vote.

>>136794207
Households get a vote.

That is the smallest building block of a prosperous society.

>>136796797
This would be fine under non-corrupted governments. Too bad any risk of Jews and Leftists influencing this to prevent any votes against them is way too high and probable.

>>136798034
Income tax

Honestly I would drop all pretense and only have votes identical to mine be counted.

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A simple diagramme, friends.

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>>136797679
> + only successors of today's citizens are eligible for citizenship in the future
> + your entire bloodline loses citizenship rights should you flee from a battle or fuck your shit up the other way
>tfw hundred years after you lose entire pool of citizens after a one big battle you've lost

>>136797679
>letting non-citizens take any role in the military or government

>>136796891
I misworded that. I mean, questions about literacy over the three branches of government, the different ammendments, basically a lot of the questions immigrants need to answer to be able to legally immigrate. I love the thought of a literate, involved voter base. Regardless of their conclusions, at least they'd care enough to work hard to vote.

>>136794207
Unequal:

Depends on:

1) Log of income
2) Linear of education (degree)
3) Bonus if you're in production work vs service (I'm not very clear on how to do this). Also, this needs to be flexible based on how the economy is going
4) Head of household votes for the house.

>>136795935

oh yes, adding points for military service to that >>136799548

>>136799548

Also, muslims not allowed. They vote in blocks

>>136798718
kek

>>136799354
So pretty much a "do you understand what your vote means and what each office you're voting for serves for and the rules they have to work with?". I agree with that, then. The situation here is appalling. I'd bet you most people don't even understand what the bicameral legislative system is or how it and the offices work.

>>136794207
Iq test, no women.

>>136799823
I know, people think that the U.S. government is somehow this single, homogeneous entity. I want the voter base to really understand their vote, what it means, and the historical context behind it. I think we'd see a radical change in opinions all over the place. I think the right to vote should be a right of the people (i.e. the general public at large), but the privilege of actually getting out there and voting should be on heads of households, whether that's one or twelve. It gives the family unit its due source of importance to many.

>>136795523
why no one support this

>>136795268
amazing idea.

>>136795667
White men*

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To vote you must

1. Own a legal weapon. Legally.
2. Be 25 years of age or over.
3. Must not be on any type of welfare.
4. Must be married.

Perfect.

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>>136796189
this

>>136794207
Must not be on a welfare program due to low or nonexistant income (logic is that you cannot vote the way you wish and still maintain your benefits, forcing you to vote one way only)
Must provide a drivers liscence in order to register to vote that includes a background check, in order to get a votee id which is used to vote, you will be rejected if you are not an elligable voter (stop voter fraud)

>>136794207
Black individuals deserve two votes per person to make up for any and all crimes done to their peoples

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>>136794207
>minimum voting age for married persons 18, unmarried 30 (this will encourage marriage/prevent cucks and manchildren from influencing elections
>no women
>citizen only
>must pay taxes
>must have voted in the last four years (reregister if not)
>no felony conviction
>no affiliation with socialist/communist groups (inb4 Joseph McCarthy)
>no Jews
>no Muslims

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>>136794207
lower the voting age to 0. most children i've met are smarter than so-called adults.

>>136794207
>Confirmed Birth Citizen
>Raise voting age to 25
>tax payer
>Land owner
>only men

Everyone can vote but the scale is weighted.

Those who own land, have the highest iq, own domestic businesses, and have children would have the highest value votes

>>136794207
make it so you have to be a legal US citizen to vote for starters. we already have the law just zero enforcement

>>136800488
white males*

>>136794207
Land-owning white men.
Simple and effective

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>>136797055

What about self-employment ? I made my own career, make a lot of money, declared it like a good goy, but it can be argued that I'm "full time", since I don't need to work a full 9-5/ 6 days a week.

>>136794207
Raise the voting age to 25. That's it.

Young people are too idealistic.

>>136795431
This.

Plus also some proof that candidates understand what's on the ballot.

>>136795268
Add must reside in country and be present to vote.

>>136794207
21+ land owning males. As god intended.

>>136809383
That would alienate soldiers. Especially if there's a draft forcing them overseas.

>>136809452
Military exception. We don't let the Irish over seas vote. You have to have an ID and only citizens. Oh and being born here does not grant you citizenship.

>>136809690
What decides your citizenship then, your mother's or your father's citizenship?

>>136809892
Born to a citizen.

>>136809892
You used to get citizenship if born here but blacks were using that so we changed it.

>>136794207
I wouldn't mind a citizen-civilian split were citizens shoulder the bulk of both rights and responsibilities. I don't want to change just the voting requirements, if I had to pick one I'd most definitely change the requirements to hold public office. Politicians are just too slimy in general for my test.
To vote and/or hold public office you must:
- be at least 30 years of age
- be a man
- be a native (foreigners and halfbreeds can't qualify)
- have held a job and paid taxes for at least 5 years total
- have done voluntary military service for at least one year
- not owe any debts
- not be reliant on state funds i.e receiving benefits

The only exceptions would be made for veterans or people who are otherwise no longer able-bodied, who instead would have to do community service (stand-in teachers, helping in libraries, youth centres etc) instead of military service

>>136810043
>t. I get my politics from low brow Sci fi novels

>>136809925
So as long as one of your parents is a citizen, you're a citizen? Sounds good, I'd be a citizen still then. But my half sister wouldn't.

>>136810188
She could probably apply for it if living here and related to citizens. It's not that hard to get it of you can get your feet on the soil.

People were specifically abusing being born here though. Pregnant women were falling off planes and giving birth on the runway.

>>136810141
t. I don't get my supply of potatoes from the English

>>136794207
Property owners and taxpayers only.

>>136810317
That was why we left. Yes. You should always secure your potatos.

>>136810273
Well I don't think my sister is related to a citizen, unlike me. But USA still has amnesty so it doesn't matter so much. What gets me, however, is: what happens if you're born in a country that you don't get to be a citizen, and your parents' home country requires you to be born in the country for citizenship?

>>136810392
Property owners still pay taxes.

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>>136810396

Realistically?
4th generation (or more) of a legal immigrant. Natural citizens only.
Ideally?
White men only

>no women allowed
No tell that your mother, grandma, sister, daughter or girlfriend

>>136810645
>Nigger butts vs something you can make booze out of

Is this really a question?

public or military service.

>>136810541
Not Ireland's problem. Should have stayed in Nigeria.

>>136810861
I get that, but what would the other country think if your country deported the baby to the other nation outside of their will? If it was two important countries there would be an international incident.

>>136794207
>How would you modify the qualifications to vote if you could?

No more illegals voting.

>>136811031
All Irish people are covered no matter where they are born. It's not us at fault.

>>136810851
are you saying...
service guarantees citizenship?

>>136811391
Your country allows non-natural citizens? What if some SJW cuck is born as a citizen in your country, and they move to some shitty third world hellhole, have a shitton of children with the natives there, and decide to move them back to the homeland for 'enrichment'?

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>>136794207
-25+
-Have to pass an IQ, EQ, and History test
-No frogposters

>>136811708
That's a very contrived scenario. We stopped people that are just born here becoming citizens for a less contrived reason.

To stop Africans abusing our laws. We have large numbers of south Americans coming to work here too. They won't gain citizenship by having children here.

>>136811406
pretty much, if you have no drive to work towards the benefit of society at large you shouldn't vote. make it 2 years military or 4 years civil service to make it be a legitimate commitment of time to weed out the faggots who just want to slide through it.

i cant fathom why /pol/ has such an obsession with land ownership considering it'd probably disenfranchise half the board.

>>136811924
There should be a provision to grant visa status to natural born children with one or more relatives who are citizens (unless both parents are citizens, then it doesn't matter), and to only grant visa status to foreign born children once they prove themselves economically capable (after being raised in the foreign country and growing up, but only if they are capable earners).

>>136797520
the first one isn't pol voting against itself, any retards who commit serious crime are niggers anyways.

we should just elect dogs and cats to office. at least they won't know what they're doing and so are less likely to get in the way or become corrupted.

>>136812126
If they have one parent that is Irish they are citizens. Otherwise they are not. We don't want the country to be swamped by south America and Africa.

This is our country. We don't want to lose it.

>>136795431
>>136795746
Not possible in the US. Would quickly get thrown out by the Supreme Court as it violates the 24th Amendment of the Constitution.

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uhh,,, make it only for moral anglo saxons?

White, male, land owners

I would modify it like this:
>nobody can vote
>except one man that is the founder of the nation he lives in
>he is called the king (dictator is ok too)
I just solved the democracy question, plz send me bitcoin for this insight

>>136812705
>One generation later
>His spoiled child is killing and stealing and proclaiming himself as god and civil war erupts.

Good job.

>>136812420
Yeah, I sympathize because my case. But if only one parent is a citizen, the SJW cuck could sex up a shitskin and give birth inside the country and the abomination of a kid would still be a citizen. At least with only a visa they can't take advantage of the system until they're of age and pass citizenship tests.

>>136797454
True but a renter can move at the end of their lease. A homeowner has a large percentage of their wealth tied up in their property so they have a vested interest in keeping their community functioning properly whereas a renter can vote in a manner that fucks everything up and face no consequences other than the cost of renting a moving van. The homeowner can find themselves down tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands in the hole when things go bad.

>>136794207
White tax payers only, minorities who served are granted too but lose if if guilty of crime and dishonorably discharged

>>136812792
Yes, every single dynasty ended in one generation, with democracy right after it.

>>136812483
Amend it?

>>136812934
We could amend it, but that requires a larger vote of confidence.

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>Raise voting age to 23 or 25
>Must have fulltime job for at least the last year(Going to school does not count)
>Must have good standing credit line

>

>>136812857
That would be the right of the citizen to do that. It's their country. They own it.

>>136812934
You are right. They all clung to power and acted retarded for many generations.

i vote per family, cast by the head of it, validated by legal marriage certificate.

the cell of society is teh family, not the individual.

>>136813296
>must be best goy

>>136813456
As long as churches can deny marriage for fags.

>>136813353
I could say the exact same for any leader or official in any democracy, and it would be even more prominent in that system. A real nation needs a king.

>>136813545
And also divorce isn't easily granted.

>>136813545
the local gov issues that paper.
family in constitution is man+woman

>>136813627
We fought to leave a nation with a king that was more successful than yours and conditions improved rapidly.

We look down on the British now.

>>136794207
The vote gets multiplied by the IQ/100.

>>136794207
Be a net tax payer, that is all that's needed.

>>136813684
So then that constitution would be bible based. I don't have a problem as long as there's still clauses for separation between church and state.

>>136796096
>>can not vote if considered a dependent on tax forms(i.e. parents) or receiving government gibs

So no one on /pol/ can vote then. Nice.

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>>136794207
Where do you fit?

>>136813704
>>136813580

Get in here paddy and make memes, the merchant is destroying Ireland

Remove vote.

Believing there is any sort of inherent wisdom regarding the leadership and upkeep of a nation in the general population is an enlightenment fantasy that needs to end. A population will just vote in its self-interest repeatedly until it destroys everything.

>>136794207
Ban women from voting, and require people to pass a test in order to have the right to vote.

>>136813824
bible has nothing to do with it.
society must perpetuate so the family has to be fruitful. 2 fags cant procreate
no need to religion to explain that need.

>>136813974
Yeah, well that's why there's a meritable republic and not mob rule. Besides, in aristocracy the mob still decapitates the monarch if they aren't liked.

>>136814034
True.

>>136794207
>Not in jail
>No serious criminal record
>Legal citizen of that country and only that country
>Taxpayer
>Not on welfare


I'd also like:
>have completed national (military) service
>IQ factored in, less than 10 points below average national rate excludes voting rights

We should do away with popular vote and replace it with organic leadership, which resembles something of a militaristic meritocratic system.

>>136809016
You realize liberals have the highest IQ?

>>136794207
>pensioners can't vote
there fixed

>>136814559
Organic leadership? Like a hereditary empire or kingdom? What if there's tyrants? I like the idea of rulers for life, but their kids shouldn't automatically rule just because of inheritance. With proper raising, organic leadership could work, but there are always spoiled and vindictive children that can possibly sabotage the country and even their own siblings. A constitutional empire or monarchy would be preferred to where a meritocratic parliament decides the next ruler (which could still be the emperor's kids, but not if they're all dolts or malicious). And the current emperor would still raise the next appointed leader, just that a better moral character is chosen at childhood if needed. Then the onus is on the current leader to breed and raise wisely if they want the bonus of inherited leadership.