This is a political discussion involving memes from the Games of Thrones (sort of like orc posting from Lord of the Rings).
Also we must fuck this chart up.
>This chart racist only FUCKING WHITE MALES and FEMALES in the beautiful and good section.
>The NIGHT KING did fucking nothing wrong.
>see pic related
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/09/upshot/game-of-thrones-chart.html
>>136789796
What if we archive that https://unvis.it/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/09/upshot/game-of-thrones-chart.html
>>136789796
>Incest Queen kills hundreds people in what is a terrorist attack.
>Her son is just a spoiled brat who became King.
>Her son is more evil than her.
WAT? When did Joffrey become almost as evil as Ramsey?
WTF did Joffrey do? Kill a hooker? Who gives a shit?! KEK
>Drogo
>neutral
>Littlefinger evil but the spider neutral
>Bran not neutral
>Melisande not very good
what a shit fucking chart
>Danny hotter than smirkfu
O i am laffin
>>136789796
>stannis
>bad
saywhot?
>>136790809
He killed Sean Bean
>>136790809
>>136791763
He killed kittens, I'm not even joking.
>>136791571
>le evil white patriarch (who fought for his country his whole life but that does not matter)
>>136791571
>burned his daughter alive
?
>>136789796
>daenarys
>good
are they fucking retarded?
>>136789796
too many good attractive people in game of thrones, notice how all the evil people are ugly. they are pushing a narrative.
>discussing tv shows
>discussing fantasy tv shows
just watch it and move on
>>136792168
to SAVE his people
No pain no gain
>tfw you use /tv/'s GoT general as a cheat sheet and always have something that is considered hilarious and original whenever your normie friends start chatting about the latest episode
>>136789796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UT3AAPSxoU
Here's an interesting video i found
>>136789796
>bran
>uglier than arya
>>136792267
If you'll notice, most people are considered good looking, and there's reason for that: people don't want to watch a show full of ugly people. Beauty sells. Also, people notice "bad" people to be uglier than they are.
Don't get me wrong D&D are actual, literal jews, but there are as many ugly "good" characters as there are "bad" ones (two of which are wannabe zombie and Frankenstein).
>>136792937
There are people who think Quasimodo-tier Arya is good looking.
>>136793048
most people are not good looking, especially in the middle ages. Beauty sells if your a teenage girl which this show aims to appeal to now.
>>136793176
What's your point? That they cast people their target audience thinks are good looking? That's what I was saying and it's quite obvious they should do that.
>>136789796
If there was an intelligence meter on this too, id drop daenarys to the bottom, i swear shes dumb as a fucking doorknob.
anyone has that smart-dumb good-evil chart of game of thrones characters?
>>136793411
that's its trash tv show that appeals to retards and people act like this show is some kind of groundbreaking masterpiece because major characters die early on. its not as smart as everyone says it is
>>136793576
"Yes".
Does anyone have this feeling that George R R Martin is going to bring democracy and no one gets the Iron Throne?
i did a accurate one
>>136794156
>>136794205
>>136794250
>>136794345
don't mind us goy!
Elvish Privilege Must End!
>>136789796
It's not evil, or good though. No more then winter itself is evil or good.
It should be top centre.
>>136794673
>>136790809
He cut open a pregnant cat when he was ~5. Robert nearly beat him to death for it, and likely would have if Cersei didn't intervene.
>>136789796
wow wtf did high sparrow do to get on the evil side? He was literally rooting out the corruption plaguing the kingdome, and all done within the law.
>>136795080
He was a commie
>theon
>not evil
did these people forget about season 2/a clash of kings? Theon deserved everything that happened to him.
>>136795357
also if you disagree with me on shireen I'll cut you
>>136794745
I don't understand your argument. Or you don't understand mine.
But I would but the Orcs in a similar vein to the White Walkers. Neither are good or evil. Just like a tornado that destroys homes and kills people is neither good nor evil. It simply is.
>>136795123
Hows that? The westeros religion is obviously modeled after christianity. Do you think all christians are commies?
>Arya
>beautiful
>>136795587
>Hows that? The westeros religion is obviously modeled after christianity. Do you think all christians are commies?
Old Gods of the North are European Pagan.
The Seven represent the imperial religions of Catholicism and the older Roman Pantheon.
The High Sparrow is Martin Luther and the Sparrows represent the protestant revolutionaries.
Azor Ahai is Zoroaster
>>136796143
4u
>>136789796
Night King didn't kill more people than the queen of muslims yet
You losers watch TV?
Sad.
There's only one king and his name is Stannis.
>redpilled
>watch cable TV
choose only one, cucks
Look at all the chumps who pay for their own brainwashing.
why good +ugly people are best and evil+ beautiful people are worst?
>>136789796
>Meera isn't in the top right corner.
Fuck off with this fake ass compass.
>>136795357
Theon isn't evil. He's just weak. You can't blame a coward for acting like a coward.
>>136793534
same and ed stark wouldve been next to her
>>136789796
>Ser Barristan gets killed by a random fucking Son of Harpy
>Night King not Night's King
>plot skips
>no youngriff storyline
>>136797307
He wasn't weak until he became reek, though
TV makes people stupid and obedient.
Sad that this thread even exists on pol.
>>136797307
>He's just weak.
hes no longer a man he can't be judged as one.
>>136792287
Reggie is so cool
>>136793914
>grrm
You mean (((Dan and Dave)))
>>136789796
>Mellisandre evil
>Danaerys good
What?
>>136789796
FAGGOTS!
If your watching this feminist bull shit show your a godamned fucking nutless or dickless fucking faggot. Kill yourselves please
>>136795573
>orcs not good or evil
Except the fact that they are. Tolkien didn't play by the idea of moral relativism, he believes in absolutes in those cases: there was evil and there was good. Sauron was Satan coming back to the earth, and the forces of good and righteousness had to defeat him. Tolkien was a catholic, Martin is an atheist.
Also, the books articulated the evil of Sauron and Sauraman much better than the films (albeit still good). The Shire was obliterated and the hobbits were made slaves. That doesn't sound like a tornado to me, just destroying in its path.
>>136798435
Neither Sauron nor Saruman are orcs mate.
>>136798917
They are the leaders of the orcs and urikai
>>136789796
autism
>>136799193
What does that have to do with orcs being neither good nor evil?
>>136798435
martin is a cuck
>>136799443
Perhaps I wasn't clear. You're stating that there is no evil regarding orcs, they just act and we perceive that to be "evil." I'm saying no, because Tolkien did not believe in moral relativism, and we were told many times that orcs were created form elves who became evil. The orcs acted with the orders given by Sauron, but they were still shown to have thinking abilities, so they had free will to be bad. Does that make sense? In Tolkiens World, there was a clearly defined good and evil, and nothing just "was."
>>136799582
Like, willfully cucked? Or his wife actually cucked him? It's getting to weird in the modern age when I have to ask if a man wanted to be cucked
>>136799698
The elves might have been evil, the orcs aren't. They are just orcs, as a dog is just a dog. Dog have free will, they can live lives without others. But you can train a dog to follow your commands, to kill on your order. If a master orders their dog to kill a child, is the dog then evil? Or just the master.
>>136799889
>if a master orders their dog to kill a child, is the dog then evil?
I would argue both.
However, the elf being evil turned into a orc still makes the orc evil. There is not arbitrary reset that makes the orc neutral once it becomes an orc, the elf made the decision to be evil, and it continues to be evil. Your comparison of the dog is a bit flawed because a dog does not have sentience (true self awareness, forgive me if I mislabeled the word). A dog acts because it only knows being a dog. An orc acts although it knows right and wrong, but it chooses to be bad
>>136800205
>A dog acts because it only knows being a dog. An orc acts although it knows right and wrong, but it chooses to be bad.
That's where we disagree. I say both a dog and an orc are in the former category.