Whats the best political ideology? No may-mays pls

>>136725740
Fascism.

>>136726679
I've found lite-fascism, with capitalism to be the best so far

If we were literal robots communism would work, but we aren't literal robots

civic nationalism, it can preserve racial heritage of nations through immigration policies. it can be widely adopted without anyone having to become a racist. and the globalists despise it and try to destroy it by pushing us into the unrealistic larp of white nationalism instead.

>>136725740
May-mays?

>>136727005
Civic nationalism only functions as white nationalism.

>>136727082
"Meems", or whatever you kids call them nowadays

>>136726963
>I've found lite-fascism, with capitalism

so fascism?

>>136725740
Mosleyan Fascism

also the original vision fo the founding fathers for america as a republic defined by a constitution is a pretty solid idea that was slowly corrupted for over a century.

a return to that ideal, combined with solidifying the constitiution as an unchangeable document, no more ammendmants allowed. and decentralized power where the states and local governments hold the power, with federal politics being more about national infrastructure and defense then anything else.

basically a decentralized libertarian leaning republic

>>136727248
Not as overpowering as most countries has been with fascism

I still think people should own their own land, and make their own guns whenever they feel, but industry shouldn't be Jewing everyone out.

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>>136725740
historically speaking the benevolent philosopher king

>>136727202
white nationalism is a larp, it will never have popular support. period. it's just something the elites manipulate you into so you don't effectively change anything. you will never be able to kick out every non-white. the best you can do is reform immigration and they don't want you to succeed in doing that.

if you want to think of civic nationalism as an important first step to white nationalism then fine. i still don't like white nationalism, but it's pretty clear that it will never exist in any meaningful way of civic nationalism fails.

>>136727443
who will at some point be replaced, and his replacement could easily be a dick. or more likely someone convinces people he's a benevolent philosopher king while actually being a dick the whole time.

basically centralizing the power structure always ends up with one or a few assholes in charge of everything. it never works in the long term unless you consider tyranny to be "working"

Either National Socialism, or an Ethnonationalist, Totalitarian, Christian Theocracy.

>>136725740
right-wing libertarianism and especially the writings of ludwig von mises
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>>136726963
you loonies really make me laugh. you wouldn't survive a single day under a fascist regime. your self worth is so far gone that you're ready to jump into the first wagon that offers you to be part of something big. it's fucks like you who are worth jackshit who doom us all.
>>136727362
ayy lmao
>>136727558
daily reminder that the drumph is yet to cancel the American diversification visa lottery

>>136728204
Pls leave mister proxy guy

>>136725740
Ancap

No kappa

>>136728004
>Either National Socialism, or an Ethnonationalist, Totalitarian, Christian Theocracy.
being this deluded. this isn't the middle ages granpa, go to bed already.
or better yet, >>>/his/ >>>/x/

Probably Social democracy or neoliberalism

>>136728343
i'm not using a proxy you fucking rube cunt. there are not even proxies in Ethiopia to begin with, wtf!
>>136728358
edgy

>>136728545
Post /comfy/ Ethiopia pics pls

>>136727558
It isn't. Let me guess you based black friends?

Based Asians?

Don't be such a leaf. There is no future through diversity, it is just a meme.

>>136727407
American Fascism is possible, hell we're over half way there already.

>>136728545
Pics of house? community? Something pls

Not doubting you. I'm just curious.

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>>136729130
A Fascist U.S.A., the perfect U.S.A.

>>136728866
>everyone that isn't white is bad
>i believe kicking out or even killing every non-white is somehow a realistic idea despite it being nothing but an edgy larp that nobody in the real world will ever want or take seriously
>don't fall for the diversity meme

i didn't fall for the diversity meme, i want immigration reform. and that's why i reject stupid larps that distract people from any real chance at change

also, yeah, some black guys, some asians, are based. and some white people are shit. and some white people are based. whoop de fucking doo da

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>>136729314
i haven't got any pictures atm unless you want nudes, kek. and sorry for the insults m8. and how come you're waving /oursnake/ and yet inclined to fascism?

>>136726963
FREE MARKET SHILL GET OUT

>>136725740
Fascism with a militaristic slant. A non-crazy form.

We need some things like:

- remove pure democracy, only eligibles can vote
- bring back hanging
- use corporal punishment for minor crimes

>>136727361
Been meaning to read his things.

>>136729551
Vegan gains is that you?

>>136729795
I like muh freedoms, but I also like a govt.

I think Capitalism was made for Fascism, too; it stops Capitalism from going overboard; do you really need 200+ brands of the same baked beans, at varying prices, and same quality?

>>136730161
To stop minor crimes being oh-so minor, have work camps for the homeless / very poor, and a better, non-cheatable welfare + food stamp system; with that, there is literally no reason to commit such crimes, unless you're a executable.

>>136725740
Constitutional imperial republic.

The people deserve rights, and should be responsible for creating their own laws, but steady and decisive leadership is necessary for foreign policy.

>>136730209
What's wrong with having 200+ brands of baked beans?
Subtle variations in taste, composition, consistency, and pricing is expected, as human taste and cultural disposition is extremely diverse. Is there a problem with that?

>>136730601
For someone being drunk and having a scrap, or a until someone exceeds those limits, there needs to be something done.

>>136730209
there will never be more beans produced then there is demand for in a free market. whether or not it's a thousand companies making a thousand pounds of beans, or a dozen companies making a thousand pounds of beans, as long as a thousand pounds of beans hits the shelf for consumption i don't care how it got there.

but it's nice of fascism to go full nanny state and start telling us what beans we can and can't eat. yeah i just love not having any authority over even the smallest aspect of my life. not even allowed to pick my fucking beans, fuck you.

>a thousand small business making beans
sure, great, if the market supports that. it's better then one or only a few companies making all those beans. gotta keep the small bean business dream alive

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>>136730992
Not in a retarded way of controlling it all, just a more cleared up version; a large amount of the "off-brand" foods, are just brand foods under a sister company

I'm not saying remove all the flavors, just make is all organized

>>136725740
Sex-economy.

"The structure of the Fascist proved to be characterized by metaphysical thinking, piety, and the belief in abstract ethical ideas and in the Divine mission of the "Führer." These traits rested on a basis of a strong authoritarian fixation to a Führer-ideal or the nation. The belief in a "master race" was the strongest motive for the fixation of the National Socialist masses on the "Führer" and for their voluntary submission to the status of crawling subjects. Besides this, however, there was another decisive element: the intense identification of the mass individual with the Führer which made him oblivious of his insignificant role as a member of the subject mass. In spite of his submission and dependence, every National Socialist felt himself a "little Hitler."

>>136730209
>do you really need 200+ brands of the same baked beans, at varying prices, and same quality?
well, a competitive market is good. you should feel lucky that you've got a free market in the us. take Ethiopia for example, internet and telephone is monopolized by the gov' and the prices are sky-high, one of our ministers even had the audacity to publicly admit that it was a cash cow. 1gb costs ~$7.5 and unlimited data was only available for businesses and government offices until now. But nevertheless, we are only allowed to subscribe to a 512kbps plan, no more. And don't even get me started on the electric bills, water bills, taxes, etc... Competition promotes growth, self-regulation, availability, choice, etc... it's literally the best thing there is. it's what i fap to every other day when i'm not choking it to necro.

Mixture between monarchism/traditionalism/fascism with Neo-platonic virtue ethics

>>136731337
>I'm not saying remove all the flavors, just make is all organized
why though? putting in place laws and regulations to control and restrict bean production to arbitrary norms is a slippery slope that leads to more big government controls in all aspects of life

just embrace the bean chaos, disorganized beans is a small cost to pay to keep the government the fuck out of business

Anyone not saying national socialism is wrong
>inb4 somebody who doesn't know what national socialism is says it's bad because "muh socialism"

>>136731849
>lets just put one guy in charge of everything, surely that can't fail, surely our infallible benevolent ruler is who he presents himself to be, surely he will never be corrupted or replaced.
naive visions make for poor political philosophies

>>136731337
What is the utility in that? The production of beans is already informed adequately in the market. "cleared up" sounds arbitrary to me.

My chosen SW jalapeno baked beans can be offered at a cheaper price as an off brand. Why intervene?

>>136731510
Internet, Phone, and Cable should be free, or just super-super cheap; to make those overpriced is a perfect example of capitalism gone too far

Eletricity, and Water should be lightly taxed, can't make it pure-free, but to make it non-govt. controlled leads to retardation. (The water, and electricity bills where I live are unjust, like yours too)

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>>136731510
Daaaamn, dude. Come to Rwanda, I pay $2 for 1GB

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>>136731893
>>136732107

I picked beans aa a wrong example, I should have used rice as an example instead...

>>136725740
I read an interesting take on the Euthyphro dialogue that said Socrates was trying to lead Euthyphro towards the idea that what is most pious is to live a life of Virtue.

>>136725740
Communism my friend. No exceptions.

>>136732484
Pinko, Pinko, go away! Go meme another day!

>>136725740
>No may-mays pls
Political ideology is a meme if it has a name. That's literally the definition of a meme.

>>136732659
No shitposting then?

>>136732325
you're still missing the point

big government is a problem. creating big government intervention into our lives, for the purpose of arbitrary rice repackaging, good grief. i'll take rice chaos over nanny state government intervention any day

government is too big already, you want to make it bigger?

>>136732095
And uneducated 17 year olds who joined the world of politics 6 months ago make for shitty replies. Rather than ask why I believe a monarchical ruler would be preferable to democracy, you simply spew stupid shit out of your gaping mouth. Its likely that you've never actually considered the different political ideologies and systems fully, and have a shallow knowledge of them all and have disdain for all who disagree with your narrow world view. You should actually study before insulting.

>>136732755
Well, I am a Fascist...

>>136732325
Sushi rice
imported Japanese sushi rice
long grain rice
short grain
wild rice
medium grain
microwaveable insta-rice....
and every variation brand and store brand products

How does that make a better case? Are we better served by having fewer actors in the economy and fewer variations of said rice?

>>136730992
>there will never be more beans produced then there is demand for in a free market.
You what. Companies can never predict the exact demand and so will sometimes produce more than demand at that moment. They will also prefer to produce a little much as opposed to producing too little and having the consumer try a rival's beans

>>136732993
I don't think you understand what I was trying to say; and I think that I am also bad at saying things

>>136732795
or more likely you want a big guy to come in and solve all your problems, a new daddy. and you fail to realize that there isn't a human alive who is infallible enough for the power you want to grant him not to be abused

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>>136732095
if only you knew

>>136733259
You are a moron.

>>136733006
whatever, accidentally too many beans sometimes. woop de doo, better freak out and call for big government to step in since they know best what demand there is for beans somehow

if there are winners and losers in the bean market that's not my problem, or yours

>>136733393
and you have no arguments to address my flawless arguments. i win

>>136732832
i understand that swallowing an ideology is easier than figuring things out for yourself but why insist on boxing yourself in like that?
you might not realize it yet, but you're an individual m8. and a great one at that, you needn't be part of something just for the sake of belonging.
>>136732484
delet this!
>>136732293
>come to Rwanda
yeah, not going to throw myself in another dictatorship m8. thanks though.

>>136725740
Capitalism is the worst ideology except for all the others.

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>>136725740
Democracy, but with some regulations, some people are too stupid to have the right to vote.

>>136733259
that's why we turn him into a God. Then if we have a bad harvest or lose a war we'll just cut of his head.

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>>136733514
>you're an individual m8. and a great one at that

Stop making me have self-worth

>>136725740
National liberalism. Anti-globalism, freedom of speech and guns, but only for your own people, the rest are shot on sight.

>>136733633
oh yes, everything will magically work out for the best. it's not like we don't already have asshole rulers we can't seem to shake off. lets just treat them like gods and give them absolute power, that will make it easier to... stop them... somehow...

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>>136733130
Well I'm pretty sure that you claimed that having 200+ variations of something like canned beans or rice is just useless capitalist excess. And that "making it all organized" would mean some form of economic regimentation to enforce controls on what variations can exist in the market.

>>136728204
>ethiopia
Eritrea was beautiful under fascist rule. You guys destroyed it.

>>136733259
Not every person who fundamentally disagrees with a democratic form of government is a loser who depends on a father figure to make decisions for them. Democracy is the lowest form of government, the form which bends to desire and instant gratification the most. There is no planning, there is no consistency, there is no order. Only from a single power can the superior man do what is right for the inferior. Take a look at the american senate today, who are a neutered version of their former aristocratic selves. Their power, thanks to the 17th amendment, is now equal to that of the common congressman who is held accountable to the teeming masses of impulsive idiots. They can no longer vote the way that is right, balancing out the HoR's populist form, and are instead an agent of populism again. There is no room in our congress for justice that does not coincide with the will of the masses. Yet, it is necessary to do what is right even when most believe you are wrong. Populations are like children taking care of themselves, they can handle most simple things but are naive and will make mistakes, and someone must balance that. Instead of insulting, why don't you ask questions? Why is it that you attack instead of learn, or educate?

>>136734064
I don't think you understand. We make them our conduit to the Gods. Then if they fuck it up (no ifs ands or buts), we kill them. They have motivation to do what's best.

A goddamn meteor shower could be their undoing.

>>136734190
>Prove me otherwise?
Immigration will destroy you. The Nordic model does not work with immigration, even the designers of your system said it.

>>136734141
Oh shit, I either made a legible sentence / you did understand

I just mean to remove the scraps, twas' all; where I live there is a lot of shit that doesn't need to be there, so its a bit annoying to just see droves of the exact thing, taste, price, and all.

>>136734279
thats why america was founded as a republic. to be a balance between the tyranny of the few and the tyranny of the many. it's not perfect but it's the best possible compromise, especially when the states have more power then the feds, which was the original vision for america.

>>136734285
yeah cause cause royal bloodlines backed by state sponsored religion is a totally easy system to break out of. oh wait no it isn't and never has been. what you are proposing is exactly what the people in power want, inquestioned loyalty to the state through religion

>>136734285
>tfw you start to think he might actually be serious
>>136734064
i admire you perseverance and your determination 11/10
>>136734150
yeah, you should've seen it at it's prime, when countless bodies of Eritreans were paving the streets of Asmara. sure, it was a highly developed city but at what cost?
>>136733681
a-anon i...

>>136735063
>yeah, you should've seen it at it's prime, when countless bodies of Eritreans were paving the streets of Asmara.
You mean during Italian or Ethiopian (civil war) rule?

>>136734699
it's not unquestioned loyalty. Did a bird fly over the Emperor and shit on him? must be the Gods telling us he's a fuckup, better take him to the Guillotine now. Also, who said anything about bloodlines? State sponsored religion? no, more like culture sponsored religion. The government is based on what the people believe.

>>136725740
Feudalism

>>136735063
see>>136733272

>>136735224
it never works out like that in history though. we've tried the whole god king thing countless times, it's just some asshole with too much power and it works sometimes in some ways, but ultimately fails because humans suck. at the end of the day some all powerful asshole nobody has the balls to displace takes over and fucks everything into retardation and nobody stops him. it doesn't matter how many birds shit on his head. we already have shitty leaders that are clearly violating biblical commandments and we are doing nothing about it.

Fascism

the elites love fascism, and they will provide you with your fascist. that is the plan. and that's why they shill for fascism.

they create the problems in the world, control our reaction, and then present us their solution. in the form of an elite fascist of their choosing that you will just love until you don't anymore and it's too late

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>These niggers don't use an imperfect A.I. as their leader

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Christian white sharia theocracy, IMO. Pic related.

>>136736265
who built that ai? google? microsoft? ibm? darpa? facebook? nobody we can trust that's who. ai is a tool developed by the elites, it's their tool, and it will never work for us or they would shut it down.

>>136725740
Plain anarchy. Only really works in a post scarcity society though, if at all.

Clerical fascist republicanism. Leon Degrelle is our model

>>136734638
Well "the scraps" in this scenario are just things that you don't want to buy. Maybe you experience some form of decision fatigue when you enter the grocery store, but I hardly see that as a sufficient reason for economic intervention. If they are all truly the same, then just pick one.
Those "scraps" actually have utility to other people. That is why they exist. Some just have subtle variations in taste & content, while others are simply storebrands that try to reach some kind of consumer majority. In short, their presence is not arbitrary. I might prefer the blandness of one brand because it provides a medium for a recipe, which might not be fulfilled by another comparatively bland variation that just happens to have more brine.

>>136735992
idk seems like it worked for a long time.

Our current leaders aren't our leaders because they're god's emissaries, we elected them. Why would you hold an elected official for the control of humans to the standard of the Bible?

On the other hand, if your leader was chosen by God, and then your leader starts acting impiously, then obviously the God is no longer with him, and he should be replaced. I think you'll find a sense of shame is more powerful than some legal code. When people care about having things done the best way, they're less likely to allow some dipshit to fuck them over. Going against the Gods has it's repercussions.

>>136732484
Autistic jew detected

>>136725740
Socially libertarian
Economically natsoc

>>136737010
Sounds like communism to me bucko

>>136728204
The problem i have with libertarianism (I was once an anarcho-capitalist, but then I got a job) is the overwhelming power corporations will have and no regulatory commission to prevent them from doing they shady shit that they do. You can argue that competition will keep corporations from gaining too much power, but the world isn't a level playing field. They want to make money and will stop at nothing to do so. The consumer doesn't have much of an invisible hand when the only shops around are owned by one company.

>>136736884
>Our current leaders aren't our leaders because they're god's emissaries, we elected them
no, that's not why they are our leaders. the establishment provides the options and manipulates the narrative, democracy is a feelgood illusion designed to lend legitimacy to a chosen puppet. your plan is no different, you would just change the way the puppet gains the false legitimacy to rule.

also, your leader was not chosen by god, and deep down everyone knows it. and the power he wields against anyone who opposes him is terrifying and often an insurmountable obstacle to regime change

fascism

National Socialism

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>>136725740
If you still want a bit of a government to enforce contracts, and run the courts, then I say look up Objectivism. The best place to start would be the Virtue Of Selfishness by Ayn Rand. It's pretty short, (170 pages or so), but it has all the basics covered. If you like it, then either read Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, or Atlas Shrugged.

If you want to go 200% freedom, then try anarcho-capitalism.

>>136735236
>ancap
>feudalism

You're joking, right?

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>>136725740
Liberal democracy in which only white males with no history of mental illness are allowed to have political influence.

>>136737455
I agree with your first statement. that the current establishment acts in this way. But I disagree with your second and third statements.

>deep down everyone knows it.
this is just false. If you believe in Gods it's not so far fetched to believe your leaders are ordained by them (who better to chose them?)

The power he wields is constituent of his people's belief in him. These days we have things like police who don't care whos in charge, as long as they get paid. The system should be upheld by everyone, not just some lackey of the government.

>obstacle to regime change
who are you to question the Gods' choice? If he's a bad leader, it will come out in his actions. If the Gods' wish to give us foreknowledge of his impiousness, then they will find a way to do so.