Why do Orthadox Jews Dislike Goyim?

>>136724815
You're not Jewish. That's why they hate you. They're tribal and in touch with what it means to be part of a group and succeed as a group.

>>136725108
But being tribal doesn't mean you dislike everyone else.

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Because Aryans invented civilization and monotheism. Because Jews are low IQ do-nothings with an undeserved ego problem. They want to be us so they hate us.

>>136725615
It does with them. They are the chosen people, goyim are there to serve them.

>>136724815
>jews who actually follow Judaism
There's no such thing. It's a dead religion. None literally believe on faith the Torah stories (OT genesis - deuteronomy) which is the foundation of their faith. They DO believe in the Talmud, which isnt a religious book, but a war manual. They've embraced atheism although there are some deists, but with no concept of heaven or hell.

>>136724815
>I want to think Jews are awesome since i respect their culture so much

apparently you don't know shit about them and just repeat the empty virtue-signalling hollow phrases everyone does nowadays about respecting cultures and religions and whatnot

>>136724815
>>136726438
Modern Judaism is Talmudism + kabbalah sorcery. Cultural Marxism is just a rebirth of antinomian kabbalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLfMc0CRyQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_y0LxcANic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBfT0pi0cMs

>>136726518
No. I love the whole idea about having your own tribal ethnic group that you all share tradition in. Especially since it's such a tite knit community. You clearly don't know anything about Judaism.

orthodox jews are fucking shitheads

>>136726753
Yeah, you're clearly the expert.

They wrap that weird black box around their arms... wtf is up with that?

>>136726807
What about ultra orthodox

>>136726663
But Marxism is about everyone is equal. Judaism is about you advance your personal wealth.

>>136726971
ultra shitheads

>>136726855
Sure you clearly know what you're tlaking about with Judaism with the cringe flag

>>136726807
You Jewish?

>>136726438
>They DO believe in the Talmud, which isnt a religious book, but a war manual. They've embraced atheism although there are some deists, but with no concept of heaven or hell.

double this. goyims need to wake the fuck up.

>>136727072
>Kekistani

>>136727072
half

>>136727207
I mean do you follow the Jewish faith.

>>136727303
no

>>136727359
Is your mother or father Jewish?

>>136727513
father, mom is christian

>>136727603
fuck off Ivan

>>136727985
no u sasson gabai

>>136727985
Are you Jewish? Specifically are you an Orthadox Jew?

>>136727603
What do you know about orthadox Jews

>>136725615
Yes, it does. It means other group success necessarily comes at the expense of your in-group.

>>136728255
ignore the christian,
i'm a jew from both my mother and father,
my mother's family is traditionally orthodox

>>136728466
Ok ok ok I've been looking for someone like you to ask for like 3 month now. Do you dislike goyim, non-jews, gentiles. I understand you don't want to intermarry with them because you have to keep the Jewish tribe going, but do you dislike gentiles or anything along those lines?

>>136728255
I study in a university full with them, they are cunts that don't give a shit about your opinions unless you are one of them.
there are some chill ones but they are far and a few.

fuck them desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1PEohu7GU&ab_channel=PublicEnemy%231

>>136728558
He's not going to be honest with you either way. Fork in the road allegory. He's going to do whatever is most beneficial for his tribe, which is to tell you he does not, regardless if that is true or not.

>>136728694
It's on the internet, it's annoymous, it doesn't matter here. Honesty is the best option

>>136728466

Does Israel take in Christian Maronites from Lebanon and other MENA countries? I met some here in Canada and they always talked about going back.

>>136728558
okay, so here's what i think
my girlfriend is a half-goy, like that dude, is that enough to tell you what i think about goys?
my mother remarried to a full christian goy from europe
my sister has a swedish christian boyfriend also from europe

>>136728808
No it's not, because you're on the fence about the issue. It's beneficial for him and his tribe to keep you warm toward Jews rather than to distrust them and realize that they hate you, or at least don't consider you as valuable as a fellow Jew.

>>136728874
I thought part of being an orthadox Jew is you can't marry a gentile? And i am just trying to reafirm, do you really like your girlfriend.

>>136728940
I disagree with that, here's why. It's not like Jews are any different from us, the only thing that would do that is religion, and im just asking a religious question which can be confirmed with a google search into what the Torah says.

>>136728964
my mother's father disapproved at first, but you know she's 50+
it is forbidden though not unheard of

i do like my girlfriend, i might marry her in the near future, waifu material also redpilled

>>136729052
They're a racially distinct subgroup of humans and are genetically different from Europeans in the same way blacks or Asians are. You would have more insight into the religious aspects of racial Judaism from the Talmud.

>>136729251
i'm half euro-jew half arab-jew

>>136724815
Because they've been lead astray and no longer worship the God of their ancestors

The Yids will be brought back into the greater Aryan family, as was foretold

>>136729333
Euro-Jew is Ashkenazi Jew which is racially distinct from European. Jews developed in Europe away from mainstream European society and maintained their originally Semitic racial qualities with minimal outbreeding with the European majority.

>>136729469
then why's my ashkenazi family white and my arab family brown?
did they magically turn their color?

>>136729227
Well I mean i fully understand why Jews may dissaprove of a Goyim wife it's to preserve Jewish heritage. I understand that, but i mean lets say your family was walking and there was a wounded goyim in the ditch, would you save him? Would anyone in your family object to that?

>>136729251
Bible says some messed up stuff too, all religions have crazy stuff.

>>136729617
of course, a human is a human.
in jewish tradition; "Save a life, save a whole world"

>>136729616
They're not white. They're (((white))) in the same way that the Ancient Egyptians or Nazarenes were white. They're not European white. They're a Semitic people.

>>136729617
Of course, but Orthodox Jews adhere to these texts strictly. That's where the "hatred" you seem to be suspicious of stems from.

>>136729787
my father has green eyes, pinkish-white skin and blonde hair
my mother has brown eyes, brown skin, and black hair

>>136729757
Oh then I really don't understand where antisemitism comes from. Why is it that people hate the Jews? I thought it was due to loxism but that doesn't seem to really exist considering your family is orthadox and you don't dislike goyim.

>>136729919
I'm not denying their are some nutjobs but look the Jew im talking to is not anti-gentile. He's pro-gentile so for me to respond with anti-semitism would be amoral.

>>136729981
I understand that, but they share no common ancestry with say, my mother or father who have Scandinavian ancestry. It's a distinct culture and racial subgroup that developed in what is today Israel/Palestine/Syria and migrated into Europe and largely maintained itself through inbreeding and nepotism. And that's fine. But they're racially distinct from Europeans.

>>136730120
Morality toward members of the out-group comes at the detriment of your in-group. If you want to be radically individual, that's fine. But it's not a winning group strategy. I love studying the Jews because they are a great example of a people who developed with spears on all sides of them for the majority of their recent history, and developed great cultural defense mechanisms. A great read is "You Gentiles" by Maurice Samuel, who was a Zionist and diaspora Jew living in Romania.

>>136730148
But does that matter, do you dislike Jews?

>>136730120
it's a story i've been told since i was a child and i never really understood it until i grew up and realized the statistics, the data, jews are too successful, off the charts and they are the minority (outside of israel)

>>136730148
then why are we arguing over this?
i totally agree

>>136730490
I actually love Jews. They're a fascinating people. But they're not my people. I want to take alot of the group cohesion that the Jews have developed and helped toward their long-term success and apply it to my people. I respect the shit out of Jews. They're as tough of a people as they come, and I want to emulate that toughness. Unfortunately, in order to do that I must recognize that Jews are not my people.

>>136730655
We're not. I just love talking about this stuff.

>>136730503
But that's no reason to be anti-semitic. Only if Jews were using their wealth to mock gentiles or belittle them would that be a reason to dislike them, but they weren't doing that.

>>136730980
people tend to throw the blame on the rich and successful people, same thing is happening here in israel right now, they are blaming their trouble on the prime minister and the rich families, same thing happened in europe and other places throughout history

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>>136730677
Except the thing is why would you support their development of "you gentile" attitude, can't they be nationalistic while being friends with other tribes.

>>136731198
Is Netenyahu a good man? I think he's good he's been standing up for gentile rights in Israel.

>>136730980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtIa8c7gSCg

>>136731360
Nationalism necessarily puts the interests of your country and tribe first. Any "friendliness" with other tribes must be for your personal benefit.

It's human nature to like your group and dislike outsiders. it is an attribute of all cults. It is not unique to Jewish people. And your statement isn't even true.

>>136731438
i personally think netanyahu is a good guy, and has the best interest for the jewish people and israel
some would argue otherwise

>>136731723
And the best interest of goyim as well. I remember he denounced hate crimes against gentiles in Israel. I was on the fence before but after this and hearing about Netenyahu i really like Israel actually. Based country.

>>136731444
Most of those kids had blue eyes

>>136731631
It's human nature to love outsides as yourself.

>>136732221
And that's enough for you? Is your phenotype going to change over the course or your life and allow you to "blend-in" with the hordes as the rising tide of color swamps our nations?

>>136732422
I'm not even white so it would be hypocritical of me to critize for that reason. Ideology matters not race. So as long as these people have a Conservative-Right-wing view why does it matter? Evola wasn't white but you probably respect him more than Eric Clanton.

I think it's just you find these people uglier than white people. That's what it comes down to.

>>136731438
I think he was good leader ten years ago. Now the power went up to his head. Basically, my problem with him is that he has no agenda and all his actions are ment to achieve more political power istead of utilizing that power to achieve goals.

Why are they even called Orthodox? That's a Christian term.

>>136732891
Oh, well then there you go. You have a fundamentally different horse in this race than I do.

>>136733133
You're fascist right? You know the guys who created your ideology weren't white? Evola, Mussilini, Franco. Why do you follow their ideology yet dislike them as a people?

>>136732940
Here is an example. Few years ago, Netanyahu said he supports a two states solution. Now he is afraid to lose votes to the far right parties so he said he is against it.

>>136733322
i understand what you mean, politicains do that a lot.

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Just gonna leave this here.

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>>136733322
the econemy is growing, no conflicts since 2014, peace is maintained, i see no problem

>>136733295
I believe Italians to be white. They're Alpine, not Nordic, but they're white. I don't dislike them as a people at all.

>>136733750
THey have Arabic DNA through the Muslim invasions of Moor. Also aren't they mediterreanian not alpine

>>136724815
The Talmud teaches that non Jews are cattle, and were created by god for Jews to enslave. This is very easy to look up

>>136733840
Fair enough. Evola was Mediterranean. Mussolini was Alpine and Franco was Iberian. I'll give you that one. They're still classified as white under Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard. It's certainly not preferable to darken the countries, however, as minorities tend to vote liberal for their cohesive group interests.

>>136734144
Madison Grant only considered Nordics human, let alone white. His whole theory was Nordic supremacy.

>>136734144
lol look at the genetics of Southern Italians. they are closer to lebanese people than they are to europeans.

>>136734144
most southern europeans fit better in in Syria than they do in Denmark desu

>>136733573
you're evil racist and disgusting for posting that

>>136734510
That's not true at all. The three subgroups of humans that he classified were Caucasoids, Negroids, and Mongoloids. Of the Caucasoids, he considered Nordics, Alpines, and Mediterraneans. He believed Nordics to be superior, but didn't discount the humanity of other whites, or non-whites for that matter.

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>>136734107
They also deny that Jesus was the Messiah, and openly venerate the Qlippoth and Sitra Ahra through Kabbala.

>>136734748
I agree with you.

>>136734797
Maybe I got my facts mixed up but didn't he get Coolidge to pass that law banning any non Nordics entry into the U.S? Immigration act of 1924.

>>136734918
He lobbied hard for it yes, but he did so with the vision that Nordicism is meant to ensure the optimal performance of the populace through racial hygiene. Not because he saw other groups of whites or non-whites as inhuman.

>>136725615
It sort of does. The whole point of a tribe is to see outsiders for what they are, outsiders. It's an instant "us vs. them" mindset.

>>136734918
Also at the time, most of the US populace was Nordic. They were mostly of English and German descent with large Scandinavian majorities in the northern Midwest, and by swelling those ranks of Nordics it would increase national cohesion.

>>136735109
sorry im getting him confused with F Scott Fitzgerald who who wrote something like "the souls of blackamoor infect Italians, even the french have disgusting African in them"

>>136734905
In other words the entire idea of white people is a joke. In reality most of Europe is a mix of Albino niggers (nordics) with small negroid type noses and other features and farmers from the middle east. Places like Italy is mainly mixed with these early middle easterners and places like Denmark is like 95% Albino nigger

>>136735317
Yeah Fitzgerald was a bit harsher on the Southern Europeans. Grant wasn't as harsh, but he wasn't as soft as many WNs are today about it. He recognized the distinction, but still considered them white. Many Italians in the US are swarthier because the South was hit hard from economic downturns harder than the North throughout Italian history, so that is the common US conception of Italian. But most Italians in the North are genetically similar to Bavarians or Swiss. This is particularly true of the upper class.

>>136735402
I understand you and the fascists point. Thanks to you both for clarifying

>>136735402
It's not a joke for people who hate whites. Sometimes new boundaries need to be drawn to ensure group survival. There was a distinct difference between Boers and Anglos in South Africa, but after 1994 they both became "white" because the government was decidedly anti-white and there was more to be gained by cohesion than division.

>>136735769
Disregarding in Christian/islamic civilization Arabs have more in common with Italians and greeks than they do with Scandinavians

>>136735889
Levantese arabs at least

>>136735889
I agree with you, and if Arabs weren't waging acts of terror on them and displacing the Italian/Greeks in their own countries and antagonizing them it would be a natural racial alliance. But this isn't the case. The aggressor defines the boundaries, and Muslim Arabs have decided that Italians and Greeks are, for all intents and purposes, white. There is more to be gained by considering Italians and Greeks white than there is to nitpick, because they have the same problems that other European countries do. Simple game theory.

>>136735614
Fitzgerald was Upper Class Irish, and that group took a harsh view on the Italians moving into "their" (Irish people's) cities.

Eventually they mended fences though, and became quite close. (Irish and Italians I mean)

>>136733646
The question is, how much does the economy growth has to do with Netanyaho?
I heard several economists that claim that the growth os due to the fact that the reccsion of 2008 barely effected israel, and thus boosted our economy.
As for the peace, almost every week someone is killed in a terror attack. I dont know if it would be different with Gabai or Lapid. But what we have is not peace

Orthodox Jews are like the salafist muzzies that still believe semen comes from the spine. Even amongst secular jews and half jewish people alot despise them.

They have no manners whatsoever and treat anyone who isnt jewish or part of their groupthink like utter shit.

t. Quarter jew dealing with this shit right now. Fuckers trying to pass off their Eruv bullshit in New Jersey after blatantly disregarding town zoning laws.

>>136736441
That wasn't true from the 1880s-1930s though right? It was always my perception of American history that a man like Fitzgerald, born when he was and brought up like he was, would consider Italians and Greeks nonwhite and that sentiment was quite popular for someone of his background.

>>136736576
What you have is basically what South Africa had during apartheid. Only difference is muzzies have alot more brains then the ghoul tribes over there.

>>136735278
Nordic just means "Northern."

The English share more in common genetically with the Scottish, Irish, and even Norman French than the Germans.

The Anglo-Saxon narrative is a myth.

>>136736670
Funny thing is the conformity issue, what you describe is more or less a breakdown of the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant identity

First issue was the non protestants which dominated the 19th century

then the exclusion of the non anglo-saxons was lifted in the early 20th century

now the barrier is being questioned by middle easterners

>>136736944
The Anglo-Saxon narrative stems from the fact that the English Royal family is German and has been for the past 300 years.

>>136736898
not really. they form alot of the english backbone genetically speaking. Maybe most of different stock died off during the world wars or whatnot but that what data from widespread genetics tests on current UK populatuons says

>>136736944
That's actually an astute observation of the development of "white American." If one is to be conservative on the issue, though, the Middle Easterner must be recognized as Middle Eastern and nonwhite.

>>136736670
I meant those groups mended fences today, in recent times.

Back in Scott Fitzgerald's day, Eastern and Southern Euros were treated poorly (especially by the Irish, but also by the Germans) because for the first few hundred years, only Northern Euros were accepted (mostly Irish, German, and various Brits, small numbers of Scandinavians) into the US

>>136736737
Its not apartheid since the palestinians do not wish to be Israeli citizens, they want thier own country. If one day they would want israeli citizenship, than we are fucked

>>136737144
I'm not denying the genetic stock of the Bong royal family but the native English population at large is largely descended from anglo-saxon tribes that migrated accross the sea during the dark ages. This is merely what cross referencing during genetic tests suggests

>>136726753
>i love jews

Wtf i hate jews now

>>136737211
https://archive.is/TvCaB

>"but today it looks like only perhaps 10,000 to 25,000 Angles and Saxons crossed over during the centuries of migration. These migrants settled in among the millions of people who were already there"

Genetically speaking....it is a myth.

>>136737550
No, you're wrong.

See:>>136737769

>>136727072
>cringe flag

Your one to talk. Lets see it then lad take off the cuckistani flag and show us your geo location.

>>136737550
I'm not disagreeing with you. Those very same tribes, however, had eastern migration as well, which is where the common ancestry of Nordicism arises. There are distinct differences from every European country, and within European countries, but the "Nordic" peoples are generally referred to as those in the Northern third of the European continent, which would include all British peoples as well as most Germans, aside from those in Alpine regions. Linguistically, culturally, and racially, Germans and English are very similar, but not identical. That's where the distinction comes in.

>>136737487
>Its not apartheid since the palestinians do not wish to be Israeli citizens
>>136737487
takes some chutzpah there to say that, while the majority will not. That is not to say there are those that haven't wanted to be. There does exist a glass ceiling there for those who live on the israeli side and it stays there to some degree even after shedding who they are for a more secular identity

>>136737769
That means they are anglo Saxon tho

I gotta go to work fellas. Fun thread.

>>136737281
it varies, the thing is islam tends to make people forget racial differences. At best middle easterners belong on a spectrum where there are parts of white middle easterners and where it dives off is hard to guess. Kind of like how hispanics can go from white as you and me to dark leathery brown

>>136736944
1. Anglo-Saxons never really existed. But America did have a Protestant core, no question. But it was made up of various denominations and Euro ethnicities.

Today, both Catholic Germans and Catholic Irish way outperform their Protestant versions. And the English are about 6% of the country.

>>136738237
Not a smart one, are you?

Santa Claus is an Anglo Saxon.

>>136732891
Evola was definitely white you fucker. He was Italian.

>>136738323
You know what I mean, its a breakdown of the bar identity needed to become american from an immigration perspective.

The key thing though is that each respective bar was generally lifted from a socio-cultural standpoint after the majority of said populace that didnt fit the upper bars of the WASP identity had adopted our attitudes and beliefs more or less

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>>136737902
Wrong. The English are about 5-20% Germanic depending on what region they are from.

This means, that even within the region where the English are "most Germanic" even those people are at best 20%, maybe 30% Germanic.

That whole Anglo-Saxon narrative is bullshit. I feel bad for the rural Prods who come on here and repeat it incessantly

>>136738428
Your dumb. Those 25 thousand didn't dissappear. They had children and descendants

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>>136739215
Yes, genius. Some did. A lot left.

But how do you figure that the English are "Anglo-Saxon" if 90+% of their overall ancestry isn't Anglo-Saxon?

Do you not into percentages?