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Brit/pol/ - Rex Totius Britanniae edition

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>Scotland to discuss new post Brexit powers for Holyrood, but warns of Westminster “power grab”
http://en.mercopress.com/2017/08/09/scotland-to-discuss-new-post-brexit-powers-for-holyrood-but-warns-of-westminster-power-grab

>Judge calls for clarity on status of ECJ rulings in UK after Brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/08/judge-calls-for-clarity-on-status-of-ecj-rulings-in-uk-after-brexit

>Manchester Airport pipe bomb plot: Nadeem Muhammad guilty
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40851414

>Brexit negotiations 'have not begun well' - Sir Simon Fraser
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40846830

>Armed US immigration officers stationed at British airports
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/09/us-want-armed-immigration-officers-british-airports-radical2/

>The Article 49 strategy to keep Britain in the EU
https://www.ft.com/content/9f4fd278-790e-11e7-a3e8-60495fe6ca71

>Britain denies agreeing to pay EU exit bill
http://lancasteronline.com/news/politics/the-latest-britain-denies-agreeing-to-pay-eu-exit-bill/article_d2c962b3-8065-59bc-939c-007b0da39f80.html

>EU data protection rules to be rolled into UK law
https://www.digitallook.com/news/political-news/eu-data-protection-rules-to-be-rolled-into-uk-law--2805330.html

>British woman shot in Brazil 'after getting lost'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40847751

>British tourists shun France and terror-hit (Muslim infested) countries in north Africa as they flock to sun-drenched Croatia and Dubai instead
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4767740/British-tourists-shunning-France-flocking-Spain.html

>NHS to recruit an army of British nurses after Brexit instead of paying expensive agency staff
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/06/exclusive-nhs-recruit-army-british-nurses-brexit-instead-paying/

Previous edition >>136685991
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Anime is for nonces
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Another rape gang for the list, this time Newcastle. Can you guess the ethnicity and religion?
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>Judge calls for clarity on status of ECJ rulings in UK after Brexit

Any opinions on this? It essentially (could) mean that British law would judicial precedent over EU laws.
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>TELLY interrogator Andrew Neil is quitting one of the BBC’s flagship political shows — with Emily Maitlis favourite to take up the job.
>Sunday Politics host Neil, 68, has said he wants more time at his home in France.
>He is in talks with the Beeb about reducing his workload but will carry on presenting the late-night This Week.

Daily Politics being hosted by Jo Coburn (actual Jewess) and Emily Maitlis (actual Jewess). Can't wait!
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>>136703763
I'm from Newcastle lad, not heard of this, what went on?
>>136703795
>literally my links i made again
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>>136703763
Mexican Catholic?
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>>136702703

>>136702703

>>136702703

Real Thread (no tripfags allowed)
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>>136703928
You're an absolute imbecile.
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>>136703795
tunnock teacakes desu
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>>136703763
>Can you guess the ethnicity and religion?

One of the major one's, probably. But I will guess the social status of the victims. Young, white girls that come from trash families where the parents don't give a shit where their kids are at 6pm.
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>>136703795
Reminder the last tripcunt to make links was Cope in the last 10 lots, reminder the only tripcunts who make threads regularly include Rightly, Cope and Steerkike.
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>>136702703

>>136702703

>>136702703

Real thread. Made first
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>>136704109
>he says while posting in my thread
Yes, you mongs work for me, you do it for free and you're grateful for the opportunity to do so.
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>>136704141
No one is going to use your shit thread lad.

>>136703557

Posted here first
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I see the arch-Remaniacs are floating the idea of a new party called the 'Democrats'. Everything about this idea is hillarious, from its stillborn chance of achieving anything, to the irony of the name.

>>136703810
Andrew Neil is literally the only thing worth watching on the BBC.
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>>136703763
I'm going to say Cambodian Buddhists. It's bound to be them at some point
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I would even post in an tripfag-made thread over an childish cartoon one.
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>>136703790
>The government must provide clarity on whether it wants UK courts to take into account rulings of the European court of justice after Brexit, one of Britain’s most senior judges has said.
>Judges have been told they will no longer be forced to do so, but can if they think it appropriate. However, the president of the supreme court, Lord Neuberger, called on the government to state its position explicitly.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/08/judge-calls-for-clarity-on-status-of-ecj-rulings-in-uk-after-brexit

Am I missing something, or does it not follow that after an exit from the EU we would be under no obligation whatsoever to follow the rulings of the ECJ? Why does this even need clarifying?
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>>136704270
Archive
https://unvis.it/theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/08/judge-calls-for-clarity-on-status-of-ecj-rulings-in-uk-after-brexit
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>>136704254
>over an childish
>an childish
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>>136704230
Have you not checked who is OP little pubey?

That's right m8. It's fucking me. So you just listen to me because I'm the king of this thread now.
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>>136703763
Actually I checked and in what will be a massive victory for the left there is one white person in the gang.
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Daily reminder that the UK newspaper industry will collapse in the next 5 years.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/08/02/johnston-press-appeals-pension-trustees-back-salvage-deal-local/

>The newspaper publisher Johnston Press is appealing to the trustees of its £600m pension fund to join in a radical restructuring of the company to prevent its collapse under heavy debts.

>As it revealed half year results showing sustained pressure on the scores of local newspapers that form the core of its business, Johnston Press said it had opened discussions with its pension trustees around a potential debt for equity swap with its bondholders.

>The company owes £220m to lenders in bonds that are due for to be repaid in less than two years.

>Johnston Press admitted the decline of its local circulation and advertising revenues means it is unlikely to be able to refinance the bonds and that “could have a material impact on the group's operations and its ability to continue as a going concern”.

>Chief executive Ashley Highfield, who is attempting to engineer a deal with bondholders that could see them write off some of the debt in exchange for shares, said he is focused on securing the approval of pension trustees. Johnston Press has defined benefit liabilities of more than £600m and a funding deficit of £53m.
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>>136704381
>>he says while posting in my thread
>Yes, you mongs work for me, you do it for free and you're grateful for the opportunity to do so.
Can you not read?
>anonymongs
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>During the trials, the also court heard how Northumbria police paid a convicted child rapist £9,680 over 21 months to spy on the network of men, attending the parties where victims were suspected of being abused. The jury did not hear evidence from the informant, a British-Asian man in his 30s with links to the defendants, and a judge described him as “inherently unreliable”.

This is what your tax money pays for.
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>>136704270
Because when two existing laws are conflicting with each other in our system, it is the responsibility of the body in question (a court, public assembly, etc) to decide which law holds precedent, and there is a whole other range of complications that goes with nullifying the ruling of entire courts - not to mention the obvious, potential disorder, loopholes under law, but also the disarray of other laws reliant on ECJ rulings.
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>>136704399
Good
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Guardian's article about the new rape gang network convictions has a standout paragraph:

>Operation Shelter has clear similarities to grooming scandals in Rotherham and Rochdale, which featured gangs of British Asian men abusing white girls. The men in operation Shelter are from a wider range of backgrounds, including Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish.

Phrased as though diversity is a good thing, even here.
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>>136704487
They genuinely would believe that
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>>136704471
Ah right, I thought they were talking about laws and rulings being made after the exit process had ended.
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>>136704270
>Am I missing something, or does it not follow that after an exit from the EU we would be under no obligation whatsoever to follow the rulings of the ECJ? Why does this even need clarifying?

Because international law is fucking complicated. If you're a judge and realise that common and domestic law does not cover a certain case, but various international laws do - you want to have clarity as to which international law to apply. This isn't as much of a legal issue than it is an economic one. International investors want to know.
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>>136702703

>>136702703

>>136702703

Real thread. We must not threadsplit
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>>136703763
They're confirmed asian. The police paid a convicted child rapist to spy on them. Quote: "I was told, 'This is an operation about Asian grooming gangs. This is what we are after. These are the people we are interested in'."
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>>136704625
>no one's posting in it
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>>136704487
Not such a wide background that any of them are white though it seems.
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I'm moving to Newcastle at the start of September (was just down there looking at houses to rent yesterday). I knew leaving Aberdeenshire would be a mistake.
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What's he been up to lately?
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>>136704590
I don't think that's legal, though, given the position of the EU and its questionable sovereignty and where it stems from, it may not be in line with, say, a French court making rulings which would be a clear attempt at a foreign court to influence our own law.
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>>136704780
Where abouts in Newcastle?
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>>136704399
Went to a local newspaper office run by the once, half the place was empty. Maybe 5 desks in use while 10 others were dusting in a corner, two of the rooms meant for editors were also not in use and just dusting away.
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>>136704782
Getting sloshed at festivals:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40844031
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>>136704463
>paying convicted child rapists to go to child sex parties to get evidence they can't use
I can understand paying petty criminals to spy on operations, but why on Earth did they think this was a good idea?
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>hehehe hahahahh ooooo farage you know haha politicians yeah errr hehehehe hahe
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Anime
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>>136704884
Legend
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>>136704797
>a French court making rulings which would be a clear attempt at a foreign court to influence our own law.

Lolwhut?

The ECJ does not, never has, rule on domestic issues - it has no authority over national law, only Union law. The question at this time is when the Brits lazily just turn EU law into national law, whether judges should/must use ECJ rulings/advice for national cases that relate to those 'adapted' laws.
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>>136704814
Currently waiting for confirmation from the guy renting out the place, but hopefully in Heaton. Was also looking at Gateshead.
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>>136704108
Link?
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>>136704884
Meh, good for him.
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>>136704966
Karenposting may be patriotic and an ancient brit/pol/ tradition going back 5 years but the numods are fags and the newtrips all report anime posters because they're fucking redditors
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>>136704948
Must-read:
http://www.richardherring.com/warmingup/13/7/2017/index.html
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>>136704948
You almost felt sorry for him watching that. His twitter/blog tirade afterwards only made things worse.
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>>136705074
and virgins
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>>136705051
That wasn't, even in the slightest bit, related to my point what so ever. The point was, that Rightly was enquiring about & I was answering to, was ECJ rulings being nullified after Brexit or British law holding judicial precedent through stare decisis. Then the discussion turned to rulings made after Brexit and whether or not rulings made would effect us, I simply noted the set up of all European courts are radically different to national courts (which is the same point you're making).
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>>136705165
His obsession with Farage is peculiar to say the least. Was he hoping by constantly dropping his name he could detract from the arse-raping he received from Portillo?
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>>136705343
I thought the judge was asking for clarification about ruling made after the exit process, which as you can understand didn't seem to make sense to me.
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>>136705060
Gateshead is alright lad, that's not my neck of the woods though. I'm on the other side of the water and in a village on the outskirts. If work is a priority, it takes 15 minutes to get to the city center via bus from where I am, so I'd definitely recommend somewhere outside of the direct city center.
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>>136705343
I still don't get the point about French court rulings. Foreign law constantly influences national law, especially ours. WTO and other trade bloc regulations have significantly influenced our national laws for the last bunch of decades.
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>>136705051
If EU directives (which become national law) are disobeyed or found inadequate, then you may take cases above the supreme Court and to the ECJ or ECtHR
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>>136705494
Yeah I know what you meant. The other guy misinterpreted what I meant. Think he thought I was comparing French courts to the ECJ.

>>136705523
My point was that the set up of the European Union and its courts are radically different to those of national courts and how they're enforced is different. The bit about French courts was a comparison to how EU law has taken precedent over our own law, and how that would not be the case with (direct) rulings made by say, France. A pretty shoddy, obvious point but it's worth stating.
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>>136703763
Tanned Englishmen.
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>>136705355
https://twitter.com/Herring1967/status/885638583423557633
If this had been said by someone on the right of the political spectrum (whatever that even means) about someone on the left of it, no doubt it would have been reported to the police.
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>A sunny day in India
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This outrage over the "black Romans" BBC cartoon is interesting in so much as the MSM have ignored the fact that the Beeb's intentions wasn't about educating people regarding a ethnically diverse Roman Britain, but simply fulfilling it's diversity agenda.

Why no focus of the other 'toons featuring non-whites Celts etc?
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>>136706010
I'm fucking sick of this. They're not content with simply wiping us out, but they have to destroy our history as well.
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>>136705594
But that's national law post-Brexit, why would the ECJ give a shit about UK national law?
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>>136705820
True. Although Herring is a complete manlet, I reckon Farage would have sparked the little shit out cold.
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>>136703763
BRITISH
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>>136706122
He who controls the past controls the future.
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>>136706010
Ridiculous, isn't it? They chose Britain of all places. The land that was considered to be its own continent, the very edge of the world and a dark & mysterious place is filled with nogs, as opposed to say, their North African provinces, a more likely candidate.

They can mess around with the identity of civilians, but art work and the description of every single Emperor who ever ruled Rome are recorded by Suetonius & later in the Historia Augusta, not to mention the depictions of many of those in the Senatorial class in Rome that survive, and its blatantly obvious they aren't groids.
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Brexit is at risk!
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>>136706277
Chapter 2 nicely done
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>>136706122
>>136706281

Have you watched their recent 1066 documentary featuring black Normans?

They seem to be ashamed that the history of these Isles is predominately white and are intent on "correcting" that by including non-whites, namely blacks, in their factual content exploring our past.
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>>136705820
Fuck would Herring do lmfao? Try and bum him?
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>>136706183
>post brexit
Yeah only just read the whole thread. This is something I've being worrying about recently, too much of our law finds authority in EU code.
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>>136706459
>>136706281

what! you don't want to celebrate the diversity that the romans brought with their 1 black slave?

FUCKING RACISTS!
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>>136706459
They give zero fucks my friend. It's one thing to (wrongly) place niggers around a movie/TV set as side or even main characters but acting out roles as civilians, but then to include them as some of the most famous men in history, of which art and literary descriptions exist of, is absolute fucking insanity.
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>>136706476
>too much of our law finds authority in EU code
well, given that most EU laws have been drafted with heavy brit influence, they might as well be British laws.
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>>136705496
yeah, it seems like it's not too difficult to get about in Newcastle which is nice.
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>>136706588
Do something about it then, cuck white boy
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>>136706683
Your thread failed.
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>>136705165
>>136705820
Hahaha I just read that whole blog post, this guy reminds me so much of Alan Partridge. The way he keeps adding "witty" responses that he obviously thought up later while lying in bed, turning the events of the evening over and over in his mind, and the weird state of immature, passive-aggressive butthurt he seems to constantly exist in where he wants to explode in a fit of autistic screeching when in the presence of people who disagree with his politics but he's just too cowardly. I was half expecting every sentence to end with "needless to say, I had the last laugh". What an absolute plonker.
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>>136706600
What?
We operate a completely different system of Law than the continent. Thousands of statutes and statuary instruments have been implemented into national law that derive their authority from European primary legislation. Just because some UK MEP cast a vote for his favourite banana circumference doesn't make it any less EU law.
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>>136706765

which means anime is here to stay
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Wew another European v British law thread again.

No wonder people think all lawyers are cunts
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>>136706394
Towards the end he has a good bit on feeling like a foreigner in his own land, should be essential reading for Brit/pol/. (I assume you are talking about AoB)
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>>136706777
>Just because some UK MEP cast a vote for his favourite banana circumference doesn't make it any less EU law.

You cheekily drop the part where commission task forces are usually driven by Brit experts.
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>>136706277
>implying anyone expected hitler to arrive
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>>136707044
>British politics thread
>Law comes up
>RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE
Idiot.
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Rate lads
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>>136707044
Oh yeah much better that people discuss what their favourite anime character is.
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>>136707044
Why do brainlets on Brit/pol/ get uptight and annoyed at the first sight of any real discussion? It's like you want this to be your own personal shitposting chamber. Perhaps not even you specifically, but it's a pattern I keep noticing.

It's easy to forget but this is a political general.
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>>136707008
dumb frogposter
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>>136707056
Yeah finished that chapter yesterday, almost made me drown myself.

Finished chapter 3 today think it was mostly about the schooling system and the grammar schools and how the teaching syallabus changed.
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>>136707142
>while respecting islam in the middle east

fucking delete this now boi
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>>136702703
>>136702703
>>136702703

New Thread when this one dies
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>>136707142
>our culture form Islamism
>implying Islam isn't degenerate and isn't disproportionately responsible for rape and child rape and violent crime and poor animal treatment

0/10
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>>136707125
>>136707155
>>136707162
Easy there snowflakes thanks for the easy bites
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>>136707044
>(((cunts)))

Kikes or quasi-kikes
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/jul/21/brenda-hale-appointed-as-uk-supreme-court-first-female-president

Even as we are getting out the clutches of one group of non-White lovers our own is is turbo charging for the BBC
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>>136707275
No. What will happen is, somebody else will make another thread and sensible people will use that one and let yours die off again.
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>>136707356
Please archive it
https://archive.is/FVYn1
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Really pleased with how I turned out to be honest lads
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>>136707336
I fucking hate you morons, I really do. Why are you even here if it's just to complain about relevant discussion & come up with shit responses?
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>>136707142
(Real) Christian Revival >White Islam
To much noncing and not enough booze in Islam for me
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>>136707434
Are the that LGBT poster
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>>136707336
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>>136707264
The crusade is needed to take back christian European cities, like London, Berlin and Stockholm. Constantinople is irreversibly Muslim, it's too late to take back legitimately
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>>136703763
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>>136707389
You already did anon :)
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>>136707500
That guy who is like

"I'm gonna admit it guys I have a boyfriend and I am gay"

because if you are please stop
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>>136706010
> state funded propaganda network rewriting history

When exactly did 1984 become reality? It's not even a meme anymore.
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>>136707574
Didn't realise skrillex was involved.
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>>136703763
I know for definite these ones are mainly Bengali
>Mohibur
>Minoyee
>Choudhury
>Uddin
>Alam
>Jahanger
>Saiful
these aren't common paki names
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>>136707574
>The white guy with the retarded hair cut with 19 pakis
What did rayguns mean by this?
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>>136707443
Easy there snowflake. I've contributed in other threads ten fold on political discussions. I didn't say you can't discuss law, making a joke about how every thread with law In gets derailed thanks to Eddie speeding out. But by all means carry on and in 100 posts when Eddie is sperging out, then dont talk to me. Degenerate cunt.
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>>136707500
No, I'm just a normal lad. Never got into anime, kicked drugs, drink once a week with the gf, keep myself fit. It could have been a lot worse.
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hello where are the pretty british boys :3
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>>136707142
While I agree with the sentiment in the last box, that's unlikely. I think what we'll have in 100 years time (on current trends) is not some sort of sharia law caliphate. I think instead of that, Islam will be swallowed up by modernity and spat back out so that it too will receive the same pozzed fate as Christianity. The forces of nihilism in the west are too strong, it's like a black hole and not even the Mohammedans will be able to overcome it.
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>>136707767
>critising people for talking about politics

Get out.
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>>136707574.
Ah the fruits of cultural enrichment blossoming once again.
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>>136707767
Is this DanTheMan still mad because we BTFO'd you on law?
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>>136707733
She's actually pretty cute, fuck
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>>136707770

that's all rather off-topic
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>>136707767
Where have I sperged out?
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>>136707840
Where have I criticised someone for talking politics. Read my post again you mongrel. Every thread with law in, Eddie acts like a spastic 100 posts in calling every anon a spastic and derails the thread.
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>>136707910
I'm not going to find the threads for you
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>>136703763
>>136707574
Has anyone got a big old photo with all the nonce sand people collected together? Or is there just too many?
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>>136707899
don't sexualise Karen or May will kill you (and you'll deserve it)
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>>136707978
Not only do people in this thread have an aversion to political discussion, they actively put down people who attempt it because they genuinely forget this is a political general.

Stop complaining about a relevant topic coming up on Brit/pol/. Why don't you complain about the anime posting instead of one of the only decent discussions actually happening in this thread?
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>>136708059
In this thread you fucking mong.
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>>136703538
>Rex Totius Britanniae
He wasn't King of all of Britain. He was a great King, as great as Arthur, but he wasn't King of all of Britain.
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>>136707899
Fucking dirty nonce bastard.
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>>136708236
Rex Totius Brittaniae was Athelstan's title. Take it up with him.
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>>136707770
>drink once a week with the gf

I don't trust people who aren't functioning alcoholics. You do know statistically people with light eye not only drink more but can handle their drink alot more.

To be quite frank, I question your race anon. If you are not keeping up the national average than why don't you just take you gf and leave for Canada or something?
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>>136707732
>>136707739
Real name "Carolann Gallon" Skrillex must have been groomed, used and abused by these culturally diverse peaceful people
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>>136708161
Give it 100 posts and you probably will you twat.
>>136708159
Again reread my point you fucking halfwit. I'm fine with political discussion, every time law is the topic eddie starts acting like a spastic after 100 posts and insulting everyone he's discussing it with acting superior. That is the gripe.
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>>136708111
May is a a idiot woman-child who can't run anything because she doesn't have motherly instincts

Like how trips are virgins
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>>136707634
the weird thing is that all of those sorts of utopian style novels ALWAYS take place in Britain almost as an advanced warning of what could come

you would think that reading them would prevent Britain from becoming that way but exactly the opposite has happened as Britain literally imitates utopian books


Why are Brits so prone to this sort of treatment by their government? You can't blame the immigrants who voted for them, because the books were written well before the immigrants arrived.
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>>136708297
But you're not allowed to call yourself Rex Totius Britanniæ if you're not Rex Totius Britanniæ.

I will call him Athelstan/Alfred the Great, as he is called.
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>>136708284
ok willy nibbler ;)
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cute bi brit boys?
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do you guys think its cool to roleplay in a stereotypical accent of where you're from?
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>>136708343
>Again reread my point you fucking halfwit.
Alright. Re-reading it now. You said;

>Wew another European v British law thread again.
>No wonder people think all lawyers are cunts

No one cares about your autistic hatred of Eddie, probably over losing an argument. Stop derailing political discussion and fuck off.

>>136708461
Alfred the Great and Athelsten were different kings lad. Athelstan used the title Rex Totius Brittaniae on coins.
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>>136708495
constantinople?
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>>136703763
>Can you guess the ethnicity and religion?
>>136703763
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/09/newcastle-sex-grooming-network-operation-shelter

I just find it funny /brit/ has been using the Kings of England the last few days.

Can you imagine what they would say to your generation of brits about this ?

Fucking shameful.
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>>136708557
Wait what?
My whole life has been a lie.

Now, I need to research King Athelstan.
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>>136708416
We don't have a codified constitution limiting state power or an inalienable bill of rights so we basically just have to trust our legislature not to fuck us. Unsurprisingly it didn't work out well.
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>>136708416
>utopian
Wrong word for two reasons, the first being that you probably meant dystopian, the second is that in the traditional sense utopian means a place that doesn't exist, and the dystopian future described in 1984 was eerily prescient of much of what is present.
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>>136708621
Please archive it https://unvis.it/theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/09/newcastle-sex-grooming-network-operation-shelter
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>>136708343
Fuck off DanTheMan, you got BTFO so hard your trip fell off.
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>>136708416
>Why are Brits so prone to this sort of treatment by their government? You can't blame the immigrants who voted for them, because the books were written well before the immigrants arrived.
I guess, is it the style of government that allows them to step all over your rights?

Are there anti-privacy groups that have existed since the 1800's who have always lobbied governments into stripping away rights?

I am genuinely curious, I'm not even shitposting. There must be a root cause of this.
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>>136708598
only in exchange of feminine brit boys.
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>>136703810
>>TELLY interrogator Andrew Neil is quitting one of the BBC’s flagship political shows — with Emily Maitlis favourite to take up the job.
>>Sunday Politics host Neil, 68, has said he wants more time at his home in France.
>>He is in talks with the Beeb about reducing his workload but will carry on presenting the late-night This Week.
>Daily Politics being hosted by Jo Coburn (actual Jewess) and Emily Maitlis (actual Jewess). Can't wait!

please tell me this is bullshit.
I dont want to live anymore
if this happens.
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>>136708551

No it's holy fucking shit so gay

Just like imagining the pasty white virgin tripfags of brit/pol/ saying things like "lad" and "mate"
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>>136708551
How the fuck does Reddit seem to have the worst shit on the front page now? Like, they seem to be constantly bumping TwoXChromosomes and that godawful "BlackPeopleTwitter" now when seemingly last year it wasn't completely insane.

>inb4 gb2 reddit

Gotta know how your enemy thinks, lads.
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>>136708626
Common misconception lad. There isn't much written sources from the era entirely, more so on Alfred than Athelstan. A very interesting king though, definitely do some reading on him. Not as good as Alfred IMO.

Here's the coin by the way. He still wasn't King of all Britain, but then again, Augustus wasn't actually a God. Bragging rights, I suppose lel.
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r8 my OC
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>>136708416
Have you seen the UK from space? Outside of Holland it's the brightest lit area, one giant bright interconnected city nearly, urbanites are living their lives in a unhealthy unnatural environment and most people in the UK are urbanites rife for experimentation.
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>>136708749

because you touch yourself at night *BOOM*

nah i'm kidding it's just the western world is dying
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>>136708648
got it

>>136708632
Good point, but do all other countries have Bill of Rights? I honestly thought it was just Americans who had genuine privacy rights and actual free speech
>inb4 muh NSA that's not my point
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>>136708632
Uncodified constitution is often harder to change than codified. You civil law cucks really need to realise Napoleon lost and neck yourselves.
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>>136708557
Shut your fucking mouth you mongrel. You'll see when Eddie starts sperging out at you, low iq animal
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>>136703795
>preusse
>'has a GF'
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>>136709136
Herself
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>>136709087
>being this mad
>implying i don't like it when anybody spergs out at brainlets
People like you, who discourage political discussion in Brit/pol/ of all places, deserve sperging at.
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>>136708632
That is complete and utter fucking rubbish. In what way would we benefit from an entrenched constitution over our own system of law?
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>>136708947
We have the Bill of Rights 1689 where most American amendments come from, but it isn't the center piece of our government as yours is, and was more a drafted up response to what occured in 1688 of already existing laws in England and a response to, what they saw as, ""violations"" by King James.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689#Declaration_of_Right
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>>136709259
Christ the irony of your posts which are discouraging political discussion and also derailing the thread at the same time.

Thanks for proving my point you sub human brainlet
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>>136708866
I see where you're coming from.

So basically it's because you guys don't have rights protected by a piece of paper and the population basically distributed over a country that is mostly one continuous piece of pavement?
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>>136709455
Lad. You asked me to quote your post to prove your point, I quoted it and all it ended up doing was proving MY point. You're trash m8. Complaining about law on a British politics general amongst the piles of trash. Are you genuinely DanTheMan with a vendetta out for people?
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>>136709465
>So basically it's because you guys don't have rights protected by a piece of paper and the population basically distributed over a country that is mostly one continuous piece of pavement?
okay so now as I get more responses, this doesn't seem like the correct assumption
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>>136709437
Our bill of rights isn't really active, bar what is in case law as I understand. The HRA currently is our active bill of rights as a EU directive.
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>>136709201
I heard that Preusse uses her massive buzzing vibrator so much that the neighbours thought she was moonlighting as a beekeeper
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>>136709676
LOL!
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>>136709565
The irony of it is the United States Supreme Court has quoted the Bill of Rights more in recent years than our own courts. That, and the Assize of Arms 1181, as an attempt to find the origins of the right to bear arms. Yes, as far as I know, it isn't active. Then again, what was written as I said was pre-existing laws that had been violated by King James, it was never meant to be the centerpiece like the American BoR.
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>>136709465
Our rights are codified because we have the HRA which derives it's authority from the ECHR.
But otherwise it is set by centuries of precedent as implemented by the representative of the electorate. This, especially with a nation as old as ours, is often set far more solidly than whatever the current executive agrees is codified or amended. If we have failings in our system, it is the fault of the electorate and not the state.
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Faceapp has new filters lads

>AYO, is you sayin we wuz Mail On Sunday columnists?
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>>136709559
Thanks for proving my point pal.
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>tfw no happening for over two months

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
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>>136709863
It looks surprisingly natural on him.
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>>136709863
Fucking hell.
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>>136709939
Thanks for proving mine by having 11 posts ITT and every single one of them is useless.
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>>136709863
Can you make him a paki?

>Satan's herb is haram, we must ban it inshallah
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>>136709863
>looks completely natural
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>>136710035
ANother post of yours off topic, keep it up lad I'm loving this
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>>136709863
Imagine a world where dominant genetic traits weren't absolute shit
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>>136710003
There is, but it's not as nefarious as people make it out to be.
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>>136709818
That's the beauty of common law is its common source, they can all refer to old English law for similar case law to derive judgement.
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>>136710125
>Wew another European v British law thread again. No wonder people think all lawyers are cunts.
>Brit/pol/ intellectuals
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My wee dog it seems is a bit racist. On reading up about it this is quite common.
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>>136710181
Or just have everything codified and simple.
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>>136704399
>Johnston Press has defined benefit liabilities of more than £600m and a funding deficit of £53m
doesn't that mean that it is technically insovent and therefore must cease trading as it is bankrupt?

pension liabilities will be the death of more and more companies over the near future
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>>136710229
Lad you're spoiling me far too much now
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>>136702703
>>136702703
>>136702703

New thread ready
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>>136708936
Why is this making me laugh so much
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>>136710254
Yes, let's just shit on a millenia of lawmaking and nation forming through trial and error and replace it with an entrenched constitution and shit all over our entire system.

Nice solution you have lad. Make a case for an entrenched constitution, don't just say that's what we should have.
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>>136709345
> In what way would we benefit from an entrenched constitution over our own system of law?

Maybe we'd still have what were considered fundamental rights when.

>>136709068
Nope. Our right to bear arms vanished in a single act. Our government legislated China level surveillance powers with a single act. Parliament extinguished the concept of free speech in the UK, actually criminalising some speech, with a single act.

Also the US is a common law system with an entrenched constitution and bill of rights you ignorant tit.
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>tfw listening to the guardian podcast on female equality
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>>136710381
sexist virgin misogynist shitlord
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>>136710373
It's easier.

>This is illegal

>This is legal

No looking back at past cases, no drama, just simple, efficient judgements.
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>>136710164
How is it not nefarious?
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has > C O P E finally buggerd of to uganda
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>>136709830
the books were written long before there ever was a ECHR..that doesn't explain how Huxley predicted degeneration of society via orgy porgy, birth control, and open "relationships"

it COULD have been a warning from Orwell as he predicted cameras througout the streets in 1984 and the ECHR was signed in 1950
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>>136710254
Fuck off Napoleonic shill, you lost faggot.

On a serious note, it is practically impossible to legislate (code) for every situation, so when gaps in law form you have to wait for new code to be written which is a lengthy process. In common law the judge interprets the legislators meaning of the most relevant law and applies it, this then sets a precedent meaning no new law needs coded, unless the legislator feels the judge has misinterpreted their meaning and then statute may overrule the precedent.
It's a beautiful system that many layperson fail to appreciate, the only reason it's failing now is because we're failing to maintain and educated and logical electorate.
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>>136710515
Because it's not based on a desire to destroy, displace, or otherwise harm white people; it's made because they want to protect residents they see as oppressed and in danger.
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>>136710380
Because the electorate allowed it, statute overrules precedent.
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>>136710380
>Maybe we'd still have what were considered fundamental rights when.
Our balance of powers are unfairly tipped already through monarchical-parliamentary roles, a topic we've graced on many times in Brit/pol/, which has given us a major hole in our Constitution. This is the root of the majority of our injustices, I do believe, and can go some way to explaining what has occurred. A solution is not an entrenched constitution and you haven't provided reasoning for abandoning 1000 years of constitutional framework in favour of a Eurocuck sysem.

>>136710492
I don't care if it is "easier" (it isn't). It shows complete disrespect to a milenia of British legal tradition.

How can you look at America, for example, and see success in its Constitution? It was written and enforced for a population of approximately 200k Anglos at its conception, and now its governs a 350m diverse population and understandably is failing under its own weight. Not to mention the amount of times the Constitution has been altered with, proving that no amount of entrenchment is secure.
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>>136710615
I wasn't talking about fictional books, I was explaining to you that we do have codified rights via the EU.
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>>136710380
>Our right to bear arms vanished in a single act.
Also, that is COMPLETE rubbish. The right to bear arms eroded over the course of a century. From the 1908 Pistols Act and the 1920, 1937, 1968, 1988 and 1997 Firearm Acts. The only restrictions prior to this was pic related which was 1870, and that required firearm owners to possess a license which was simply a matter of money.
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>>136710775
>>136710698
There we go back to precedent and sperging out again
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>not using examples of fiction to back up every internet argument you have

Low IQ mong detected
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>>136711115
>if the basis of the English legal system is mentioned during a discussion on the English legal system it's sperging out
Fuck off DanTheMan.
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>>136711101
It's also worth noting, we never had an entrenched amendment like America.

>Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assize_of_Arms_of_1181

>"he fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defence, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute I W. & M. st.2. c.2. and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression."
- Commentaries on the Laws of England

Our firearm laws were based on precedent again. Not an entrenched clause.
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>>136710916
>It shows complete disrespect to a milenia of British legal tradition.
Doesn't matter if it's a shit tradition.

Just codify everything, so that you know the exact punishment for a particular crime, and you know what is and isn't a crime. Then periodically update it, either when new issues come up, or when times change.
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>>136711115
Again, he complains about law on a politics general. That's 14 posts ITT you have now and all are still useless.
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>>136710775
And this is why Britain of all nations is a living example of an Orwellian dystopia - back to my original point. Our system of trust in the all-powerful legislature is conducive to tyranny.

>>136711101
I beg your pardon, it vanished in a handful of acts then. The point is, it vanished. We have no safeguards on our rights or civil liberties and no recourse to defend them. Again, the reason why we're resembling a dystopian novel made manifest.
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>>136711029
I see
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>>136711204
>>if the basis of the English legal system is mentioned during a discussion on the English legal system it's sperging out

Yeah, but iirc the discussion wasn't really about that, it was about whether it's legal for the queen to say something.
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>>136703538
Quintessentially
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>>136711427
"Europe a nation...."
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>>136711323
As Hitchens pointed out, we're more Brave New World than 1984. In 1984 the state forced the electorate to obey, in brave new world they didn't give a fuck so the state did as it pleased.
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>>136711288
>Doesn't matter if it's a shit tradition.
It isn't a shit tradition and that's why this discussion isn't worth continuing with you. You haven't bothered to look at your own countries constitutional framework.

>>136711323
Read what I wrote here >>136711227
The right to bear arms in Britain was based on precedent. The only clause we have mentioning it in the Bill of Rights 1689 is only concerning the disbarment of Protestants. This is radically different to the Second Amendment, though these English laws were inspiration for its conception. It was not illegal to do what the government did, tyrannical maybe, and I'm extremely pro-firearm, but not illegal.

I also don't see that as justification for centering the rest of our existence around an entrenched constitution. There are many other ways we can realistically focus on loosening firearm restrictions in our lifetime, a topic I'm more than happy to elaborate on. None of these solutions include replacing legal tradition.
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>>136711427
looks like Maduro
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>>136711574
>It isn't a shit tradition and that's why this discussion isn't worth continuing with you. You haven't bothered to look at your own countries constitutional framework.

It is a shit tradition. Everything should be heard on a case by case basis, it shouldn't matter what prior rulings on a similar case were.
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I don't know if it's depressing or hilarious that despite the majority of this board voting leave to get back sovereignty, that their appears to be many that support a civil law codified system. It's as if many here didn't actually have a clue what they voted for.
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>worshipping a dead kike on a stick

Lmao
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>>136711204
Mong keep autistically raging and repeating your same points.
>>136711316
Proving my point more kid thank you
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>>136711714
>it shouldn't matter what prior rulings on a similar case were.
Why the fuck should it matter what some shitty old entrenched constitution from 300 years says?
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>>136711714

>it shouldn't matter what prior rulings on a similar case were

Except it is.
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>>136711543
>in brave new world they didn't give a fuck
because the state kept them in check from birth and fed them propaganda and soma when they had bad thoughts

they did stun one with a soma gas and bring them to the rehab hospital iirc
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Any birmingham anons on?

I heard there was a fucking acid attack in harborne just 10 mins ago

Fucking hell and harborne is supposed to be the nice part of bham
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>>136711757
They want the American Constitution, that's all. They want the Second Amendment. There's literally no other justification for it besides from muh guns. These aren't well-thought out decisions made by people ITT, in which they carefully analysed our common law system versus a system of entrenchment. They are people who want to own handguns.
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>>136711757
Civil Law is good for liberty.

In most civil law systems can simply go online for free and get a rough idea about most of the legislation concerning them in a specific matter or generally as a citizen. Many people in common law systems seem to have little to no clue about the law. To me that's strange, and makes for very little personal protection: you should have an idea about the laws of your country so as to best protect your interests.

Also, with case law, it's easy for you to be taken to court for almost anything eventually. There will end up being some ruling you can use. Not good for liberty.
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>>136711870
That's globalism for you. The state has two choices, either globalise or be left behind. The electorate allowed us to globalise.
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>>136711794
>Why the fuck should it matter what some shitty old entrenched constitution from 300 years says?
It shouldn't, it should be periodically made relevant.
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>>136711968
>"I don't know what I'm talking about"
You could have just written that instead
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>>136712062
How the hell is that any different (or efficient) to a common law system? What you described is essentially the basis of our entire system.
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>>136711968

>Codified Civil Law

Fuck off Eurocunt.
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>>136712135
Not an argument.

Civil Law > Common Law
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>>136712206
Not an argument.
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>>136711968
I noticed you completely ignored my defence of common law (>>136710698), and now you're waffling about the reason people are ignorant on law is that it's not civil law which is bizzare logic. And I really don't understand how you reason that "eventually you can get taken to court for anything", I'm not entirely sure you understand what you're talking about.
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>>136712023
I don't think BNW was set in a globalized world since most of it had been destroyed aside from that reservation in New Mexico
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>>136712204
Except people still know where they stand because it's all codified
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>>136712219
What do you consider yourself ideologically?
>>
I really want to help save the Boers lads. How can I do it?
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>>136712290
It's sad, but both common and civil law suffer at the hands of globalism. But back when we had a mature electorate, it worked beautifully for Britain, it may not have worked on the continent but common law is uniquely and beautifully British.
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>>136711968

>Civil Law is good for liberty.

No it isn't. Under Civil Law the state sets the wrongs and rights, not the people.

>Also, with case law, it's easy for you to be taken to court for almost anything eventually

But that's wrong.
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>>136712281
When you have so much case law, eventually there'll be some prior judgement that can be used to stop you.

Also, you say it takes a lot of time to make new code, but that needn't be the case. It could be done quickly. Anyway, provided it's extensive enough very rarely will that happen.
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>>136712377
It's Africa, survival of the fittest. Let them be.
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>>136712240
>>136712219
You haven't made a single argument yet. I welcome anybody to CTRL+F your posts. They are not arguments.
>>136712310
What does "people know here they stand" mean? You have to be more specific because, again, these aren't even arguments. They are not well thought out opinions on civil law versus common law. They are single sentence answers of you showing no true knowledge of what either of those systems truly are. What you've described is essentially the British system, in which it modernises (defeating the purpose of entrenchment) yet you want a codified constitution? Why? For the Second Amendment?
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>>136712339
Why does it matter?
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>>136712484
>Also, you say it takes a lot of time to make new code, but that needn't be the case. It could be done quickly.
Yeah, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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>>136712448
Not everyone has enough time to read about bullshit common law, it's easier if there's a code to follow. You know where you stand.
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>>136712555
Because I bet you call yourself a conservative yet spout shit like this
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>>136712595
>Yeah, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

How so? It could literally be done in an hour to a week. Literally just write, "this is now illegal". Boom. Done.
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>>136712484
>It could be done quickly
Statements like this show your lack of knowledge on the subject. You'd have to actually define WHAT could be done quickly. Reversing 1000 years of legal statute would certainly not be done "quickly" and from then on, how do we simply just bulldoze and replace our institutions?
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>>136712690
>How so? It could literally be done in an hour to a week. Literally just write, "this is now illegal". Boom. Done.
I think you're baiting us lad.
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>>136712521
Civil law is good for liberty.

Public knows where they stand.

All codified, simple for judges.

>>136712669
Nah, conservatism is stupid. Why keep things if they're shit?
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>>136712377
tell em to either concentrate themselves, wean themselves off black labour and form their own ethnostate or buy them plane tickets to the netherlands
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>>136712729
How could it not?

You just add in a law.
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>>136712757
>Public knows where they stand.
Then how come the Second Amendment varies from states like California, in which Northern Ireland has more open carriers issued, to states like Ohio where it is legal to carry an AR-15 in public?
>>
imagine being subject to human laws

hahahah
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remember not to make a new thread, there's one here >>>136702703
don't swap yet tho
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>>136712691
>Reversing 1000 years of legal statute would certainly not be done "quickly" and from then on, how do we simply just bulldoze and replace our institutions?
You just tell lawyers and judges: These are the new rules. You're making this out to be more difficult than it is.
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>>136712757
>Nah, conservatism is stupid. Why keep things if they're shit?
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>>136708706
It's real, sorry. It was inevitable when Andrew dropped the Friday show on Daily Politics back in September.

I'd take him still doing This Week though.
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>>136712922
Fuck off lad. Last (You). Well done, I thought you were just your average idiot trying to express knowledge, not baiting.
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>>136702703
>>136702703
>>136702703

New thread lads m8 desu senpai
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>>136713023
No.
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>>136712951
I don't keep an old pair of shoes if they're no longer fashionable. I don't keep a jacket if it's falling apart. I don't keep my trousers if they get a hole.

Why do the same with institutions?
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>>136712757

>Civil Law is good for liberty

Citation Needed.

The United Kingdom literally invented the ideal form of libertarianism, all under Common Law, try again.
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Don't use the anime spammer thread if you value this thread at all lads. Ctrl+F his posts to see his derailing in action. Someone make another.
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>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD
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>>136713087

You have to prove that the current institutions are no longer needed.
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>>136713009
I'm not baiting. Just explain why that can't be done.

Just send a letter around; "Your new civil code" to all courts. Tell them to dump all of their case files or whatever, and just use the new rules.

Tell the public, too, and make a searchable online version so people know what is and isn't illegal.
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>>136712829
america is Common Law + Constitution
they have precendent on how you should interpret it,
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You lads want a new thread or are we just going to bite and use the animenonces thread?
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>>136713087
>getting rid of shoes because they aren't 'fashionable'
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>>136713237
You aren't explaining anything. Your replies painfully lack any explanation.
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>>136713228
No I don't, civil law is better. That's all that matters.
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>>136702703
>NEW THREAD
>>136702703
>NEW THREAD
>>136702703
>NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD

continued gay law discussion
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>>136713023
you are terrible at larping as a weeb senpai
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>>136713309
You need to explain why we couldn't just tell the courts to follow new rules. It's all codified, just search up the crime, and you find the time.
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>>136713375
*bows to ur superioty*
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>>136706335
He's getting a bit nasty now.

This is David Davis' former aide, by the way.
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>>136713375
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New thread, in case you aren't fond of the spam version.

>>136713509
>>136713509
>>136713509
>>136713509
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>>136713495
kek idk why the fuck i have that in my name section
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>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD

>>136702703
NEW THREAD

get in here ladds
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>>136703586
Who else hates this island and wants to go make a new nation some where else? This ones fucked, my european genetics are more important than an island full of pakis
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NEW (NON-ANIME) EDITION

>>136713509
>>136713509
>>136713509
>>136713509
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>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD

(no tripfags)
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>>136713624
seconded
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>>136713699
You stupid thread splitting cunt jesus
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>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD
>>136702703
NEW THREAD

real political discussion here, not wanking about civil law lol
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>>136707142
If you knew about Islam you'd know there is no alliance with it, no detente or equal partnership.

We either crush Islam or capitulate to it. No other choices.

That doesn't mean we have to go into the Middle East and fight them there, just expel them from Europe, cut them off and let Islam destroy them.
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>>136713809
Angry at me before so you decided to take it out now? Faggot. That thread has been around since 9am, and it's made by a spammer. Maybe read the last 2 threads you fucking nonce. Why use a spam version of Brit/pol/?

NEW

>>136713509
>>136713509
>>136713509
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>>136713809
they guy who made the first thread posted it like 10 times and made it about 30 posts in he doesnt deserver posts in his bread
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>>136702703
>>136702703
>>136702703
Real thread, posted first
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>>136713967
Go through the guy (You)'s you're (You)'ing. He is simply a bit buttblasted that his determination to tarnish political posting in a politics general was called out.
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>>136712793
>concentrate
Thread posts: 307
Thread images: 63


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