CANADA YES!

>>136703166
Nuke Ontario

>>136703166
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

What do injun writers write about? Coyote stealing bear and Ravens booze?

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>>136703315
I think I see a rare flag ripe for my collection

>>136703166
>school board
So what? Like 3 schools?

>>136703166
>for indigenous writers
Why is it a problem that they're ditching English writers for Canadian ones?

>>136703166
>indigenous writers
So...the Chinese?

>>136703166
They done this during my English classes many years back. We had a module called 'poems from other (weren't allowed to call it different just other) cultures' mostly Africans who moved to UK writing shitty poems.

>>136706123
> Indian
> Canadian

Pick One.

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meanwhile highschool science and math in canada is still shit, but hey, maybe tweaking our english classes is what we need to not get overrun with cheap foreign labor!

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>>136703166
sheik spear is overrated anyways

>>136703166
I would feel worse about this if Shakespeare was not so shit.

>>136706199
kek

>>136706648
How is Shakespeare shit exactly? I studied pretty much all of the major works and thoroughly enjoyed them all. Are you a baffoon mate?

>>136703166
I'll complain if I knew wich writers they are, cause you don't make kids read crap just to fulfill your underdog fetish.

>>136706123
it means native literature I belive so cave paintings and pow wows about the buffalo god

>>136703166

So cultural genocide is happening in Canada?

People who push these things will die for this. They are stupid to think they can get away with it.

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>>136706648
>tossing aside the works of one of the greatest authors and playwrights of all time for a bunch of stories by timber niggers

fucking end it already

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>>136707037

what you gonna do about it?
post some annoying shit online?

WOW... really activates my pumpkin patch

>>136703166
>school
Sending your kids to school with gooks, shalom, salam, and namaste sandniggers is child abuse. Plain and simple. Anyone in ontario with kids in school is podesta tier abuser and those kids will be just as mentally devastated as the average raped child

>>136706828
Shakespeare sucked because he literally made up words. He was the snoop dog of his time

>>136707037
>His culture it's so fragile that the only thing keeping it togheter are Shakespeare writings.

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>>136703166
Canada is a silly place.

>>136707023
Margaret Atwood isn't bad.

>>136706828
Shakespeare makes kids never want to read anything ever again. That he is possible to enjoy is meaningless when compared to all the people he has forever soured all literature for.

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>>136703166
>indigenous writers

>>136706553
I thought it was already shit when I was in elementary school and high school back in the 90s. I finished grade 12 month by grade 10 with 99% and mostly just goofed off in class. I was completely unprepared for university level math which is mostly theorem proving.

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>>136707604
Indeed.

I'm still mad cause little shits will never read Shakespeare on their own will.

Even when you slap their faces with it.

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>>136707442
>its only Shakespeare
>its only genders and sex
>its only people from another country
if you keep being that apathetic and stupid then you won't have anything left when you realize you should do something.

not to mention, if what you said was true then they would not bother changing it

>>136706828
>>136707229
Shakespeare is definitely complete garbage. Shakespeare's contemporaries considered his works as base filth, lacking in morality, basically like the "reality tv" of his day. Somewhere down the line some intellectuals considered them masterpieces and meme stuck.

Fuck Shakespeare.

>>136707931
Shakespeare is only valuable because people say so. He's actually not great, in fact in his own time his stories would have been the equivalent of modern day smut. It seems the passage of time is the only difference between legitimacy and illegitimacy.

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>>136708122

>>136707459
so they want black only schools? xD

>>136707438
>he literally made up words.

This is on par with the "shakespear was actually a woman/black/etc." theories.
Shakespeare's plays were a commercial venture, if the plays actually introduced new words, the audience wouldn't have understood what the fuck was going on and wouldn't have liked the plays.
The most logical explanation for the presence of words not seen in other literature, is that they were preexisting lower class slang that nobody had written down before, because everyone else who used them was illiterate.
In reality, Shakespeare was probably just trying to seem more raw and legitimate and inadvertently introducing and sexifying hip street slang to rich kids.

Bubble was probably the On Fleek of his era.

>>136708649
>want
They got it.

http://www.afrik-news.com/article16378.html

There is also an Injun reserve that evicts mixed race couples.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/amanda-deer-non-native-boyfriend-driven-from-kahnawake-home-by-protesters-1.3077894

>>136708849
Please archive or screenshot

>http://cbc ca/news/canada/montreal/amanda-deer-non-native-boyfriend-driven-from-kahnawake-home-by-protesters-1.3077894
https://unvis.it/cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/amanda-deer-non-native-boyfriend-driven-from-kahnawake-home-by-protesters-1.3077894

>>136708849
>>136708885
http://archive.is/fCcgA

>>136703166
How long until leftists start burning books in public?

>>136708170
but we are not talking about value but tradition and culture, and as that he have made an impact that we should not suddenly decide to be ignorant of

in the future when you tell someone that the reply might be "who?" and you can't even tell people how bad it is properly.

What books have the natives wrote?

>>136705749
>white man come
>white man have beads and booze
>trade beavers and land for beads and booze
>get drunk on white man booze
>raid white mans land we just gave them
>no land, booze, and half of raiding party is dead
>fuck white people
>repeat

Hahahahaha, soon we'll be the best English speakers
T. Quebec

>>136709130
why would they need to burn literary works when they can just remove them from school curriculums and never talk about them in media? People can't be exposed to what they don't know exists

>>136709456
Tradition and culture change. The west started in Greece, and then Rome, then Northern Europe, then the new world. The west is a synergy and infusion of different ideas over centuries. There are so many literally who's in the great passages of western history. Why should it be any different if Shakespeare is no longer as relevant as he once was? Out with the old, in with the new.

>>136703166
For FUCK sakes.

Can't wait for the Canadian civil war. Wynne and Trudeau are getting the rope.

>>136709787
And you will notice that unlike the ignorant approach taken here we still consider that history relevant and we still reference it, read it, study it, teach it and so forth, it is still very much a part of us.

If you argued for the tossing of all greek history then your argument would be consistent but also very dangerously ignorant IMO

Nothing wrong with reading a wide range of reading. But the decision to drop Shakespeare is a mistake if you are an English-speaking nation because of his importance in forming the language itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig6f5fT0Xho

>>136709787
>Out with the old, in with the new.
Yeah, come on guys! It's 2017!

Fuck off Corbyn.

>>136710140
The question then, if we still consider it relevant, if it had to compite with other forms of entertainment.

why not both?

>>136706828
He was writing cuckoldry porn

>Zounds, sir, you’re robbed! For shame, put on your gown. Your heart is burst, you have lost half your soul. Even now, now, very now, an old black ram is tupping your white ewe. Arise, arise, awake the snorting citizens with the bell or else the devil will make a grandsire of you. Arise, I say!

>>136706648
>shit brainlets say

>indigenous
What did they mean by this? the natives? God, I hope not.

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>>136710345
And the answer is easily yes. It have been a source of influence throughout the years and have had a noticeable and clear impact.
The reason they want to move away from something like this can only be because they want to damage our mental capacity by removing something that is still relevant.

you should be able to know when something is a reference to certain works, when its common for everyone in the entire west to learn then you will suddenly be kinda on the sideline when you alone lack cultural references and the values they taught etc

this is universal for all things related to our culture and society and not just books though it is very obvious with books.

when you have no knowledge of Shakespeare you are kinda like the newfag who refuse to lurk before he posts shitty broken memes that are simply wrong, you are this way precisely because you lack what the others have.

>>136703166
Shakespeare was fucking terrible though, he didnt reflect the culture or even the language of the time. The fact I was forced to learn shakespweare in school is fucking stupid and i guarantee that if the curriculuum covered a more modern or relevant author then more kids would be interested in Literature, Shakespeare should be resigned to further education in literary history courses for those few who are actually interested.

>>136703166
>Indigenous
>Writing
Hearty Chuckle Dot Jay Pegg

>>136710203
Mate it's 1600's smut. If you want to teach Shakespeare, teach about him in history class. But it's better to teach more relevant literature that doesn't put people off of reading for life.

>>136710140
I'm not arguing to toss out anything, only treat it as less relevant to the school curriculum. I mean why can't Shakespeare be taught at college instead? Is Greek history taught at school? No. Does that make it any less important? No. If this were taking place in the 25th century you'd be whining about schools deciding to drop 50 shades of gray. Because that's all Shakespeare is, the 17th century equivalent of that.

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>>136703166
I bet that where the rich people pay for their kids to go to school they will have Shakespeare while the sorry people's kids don't get this cultural enrichment and in turn this will enforce the clear divide between the two groups.

Things like this make me believe that we might evolve into two different types of human in the future, one of cultured worthy elites and one of dirty savages that do manual labor and work for government handouts and "get everything they need" and just exist while the elites live life.

>>136710837
Yeah, take Shakespeare plots and characters, give them modern names, make them speak in contemporary slang, set the story in the 'hood, and over social media. That always improves on Shakespeare.

>>136710803
>when you have no knowledge of Shakespeare you are kinda like the newfag who refuse to lurk before he posts shitty broken memes
Nobody remembers what they read in high school. More likely, people will remember the stuff they've seen on GoT years from now.

>>136711214
Brainlet nonsense. Shakespeare is relevant every time you use the English language for anything other than grunting.

If the Iliad and the Odyssey were taught in schools it would improve the quality of young men tbqh. If you are a male and you've not read the foundational stories of western masculinity, you might be beyond hope.

I don't care if we turn into Africa I want marfitime separations.

Has an Injun ever done anything worth while or have they remained savages even though they have the tech of the white man

>>136711214
You are forgetting that this is a selective change only for a select few, if it was a generic choice and so forth then it would be better and I would agree more with your line of reasoning though I still think Shakespeare is more relevant than 50 shades, not because of how is written but due to the impact of the ripple effects, 50 shades can't compare and I thought it was forgotten already

>>136711563
It's relevant because people say so. You want to talk about brainlets? The real brainlet is somebody who accepts something as culturally and intellectually relevant because others say so. Face it, it is smut. It always was, it always will be.

There is nothing wrong with stories like the Illiad or the Odyssey, in fact more classics like that would be great, but the mistake was making Shakespeare a classic in the first place.

>>136711561
is not that just a full blown SJW fest of a show these days though?

Next they're going to be claiming Shakespeare was really a black trans woman.

>>136711426
You misunderstand me leaf, just forget shakespeare altogether until further education. Have kids in school read something that will appeal to them. Harry Potter as an example for younger kids, not saying its a great book or well written, I havent read it myself, but its etremely popular and some kids would read it just for fun....anything to actually ghet kids reading out of choice would be better than force feeding them some out of date bullshit they have no interest in thats going to put them off reading for life.

>>136711636
Many books go forgotten for decades, perhaps even centuries before being revived and seen as culturally relevant. Time is what grants works of art legitimacy it seems. It's too early to tell if 50 shades will be seen as something quintessentially relevant to 21st century culture but the idea of people discussing it centuries from now like its some profound work is actually hilarious. That's the power of the passage of time.

>>136707931
probably fake quote

>>136711725
>but the mistake was making Shakespeare a classic in the first place.

I can agree on this, but now that its already done and a reality we must live with the fact that it have become relevant over time due to the continued impact it have had

>>136703166
>ITT: /pol/ pretends they've read more shakespeare than whatever got assigned in high school

>>136711563
Shakespeare mangled the English language to fit his own style, People didnt speak the way he wrote then and they dont speak the way he wrote now.

>>136711563
>If the Iliad and the Odyssey were taught in schools
But they'll never be, because Jamal can't read or focus for very long. Just buy your kid the books.
>it would improve the quality of young men tbqh
Guess that's not what they're going for.

>>136711839
I've only caught a few episodes. From my point of view, it's 50/50.

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>>136711979
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Merchant_of_Venice

>>136711937
you are probably right but I have not yet bothered to find who actually said it so the image is good enough for now, you should consider the message and not the authority it comes from anyway

>>136712160
>>136711725
>It's relevant because people say so.
Yes, this is how cultures work.

> People didnt speak the way he wrote then and they dont speak the way he wrote now
"More fool you".

>>136710482
But wasn't the black man cucked (or thought he was cucked) in Othello?

Britain has led the world through innovation, the only nation who even came close was France.

Canadians should stop bastardizing the English language, as well, speak French, instead.

>>136711967
But this goes back to the point I made about thinking something is relevant just because others say so. It has long past its use. Why read it for the sake of it? Other works are far more valuable to the youth of today. Things that could really cultivate their minds and morality.

>>136712285
yeah but what about twelfth night

>>136713256
A few natty catchphrases does not define a language. Nobody speaks conversationally the way shakespeare wrote.

>>136710482
Shakespeare was an artist. Only a white male could have been so prolific.

People cannot grasp the galaxy of this man's mind.

Renaissance men, were White men. It cannot, and will not, happen, any other way.

>>136714008
Shakespeare does cultivate minds and morality, its also very hard to use the English language with any elegance without quoting him.

What you are actually moaning about is poor teaching of Shakespeare which is a separate issue.

>>136713256
I guess we should stop using the words, he invented, as well.

Eyeball, and Assassin, are great words, though.

>>136714237
Nobody speaks in rhyme or with meter much outside political speeches.
No poetry either then. Harry Potter it is. FFS.

>>136714370
Perhaps. But I don't see it as the end of the world if other works are explored in its stead. Culture has never remained stagnant.

Well he did make fun of cucks so of course they're mad.

>>136714008
No, those are two very different things.
to be relevant just because someone said so is listening to someones word and then go do that, because they said so.
The other is to understand that because so many in society consider this relevant then it actually is, because its impact is still real.

example 1: I ask you to buy green pants because I think it would send a signal to people to think green, this is just me saying something is relevant and if you agree then you agree just because I said so

example 2: you notice that a organization focusing on the environment have created a successful campaign that have spread nation wide where they sell green pants that now are just as well known as the iphone and people have come to generally accept that green pants represent this and the company whom donates its profits, if you go and buys these green pants for this reason then you are no longer thinking they are relevant "just because someone said so" but instead you simple realize that they already have become relevant

and we are still faced with the problem of this only being a change for a select few so the damage is double, even the people their own age will know about this still relevant thing while they don't.

>>136714494
I actually agree, Poetry and shakespeare appeal to very few people, but if you get kids reading for pleasure then a lot more are going to want to expand into historic literature and poetry overall, and they can make that choice further down the road and share classes with likeminded people.

>>136714539
Do this for me. Watch the "Hollow Crown" version of Richard III and then watch an episode of the highly relevant and popular Game Of Thrones.

You'll see one is not only a shitty cultural echo of the other but its basically a joke that is impossible to take seriously everything about it is so badly done.

I can't insist here Shakespeare was a great artist who combined psychological truth and depth with miraculous language if people just say "its shit and boring innit" but you can experience what I'm talking about if you want to see if there is anything in it.

We know quality when we experience it and its a fact like any other at that point.

>>136706648
I didn't know it was possible to demonstrate such shit taste in so few words.

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Oh good for Canada now we can get real writer like Tyrone sharqisha and his book Where da White Wimmin at?

>>136715102
Your grasp of English is very poor, he could have just said 'Shakespeare is shit'. Thats much fewer words.

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>>136703166
Nuke us please.

At this point the people who are even remotely "right" leaning don't give a fuck.
No one gives a fuck, and it's fucking pathetic.

I'm 24 and pretty much my entire generation doesn't see anything wrong with the way things are going. Why?

Because they're all fucking hedons who only care immediate self satisfaction.

This country is filled with privileged fucks who will happily bend over backwards for the government because everyone is so fucking disillusioned that the government is their friend and would do nothing to hurt them.

God damn this nation is full of retards.

>>136714898
There's a difference between artificial relevance and actual relevance.

"To begin with, I had good reason to be gratified. The sex-economic analysis of fascist ideology not only stood the test of time, but, more than that, the past ten years confirmed it in all essential points. It survived the decline
of the economistic concepts with which the German Marxist parties had tried to master fascism. It means something that, ten years after its publication, there is a new demand for the book. This is more than any Marxist
publication of ten years ago, whose authors had condemned sex-economy, can say for itself"

>>136715007
I see what you're saying but no. Shakespeare is actually important, there are deep cultural things going on with it. If you've had no exposure, you've got a problem operating within the culture. You don't have to like it and if you don't take your chance, fine. But making it optional is like making grammar or adding up optional, you're not really helping people by letting them deprive themselves of something.

Its literally the only thing I think in art in British speaking countries that has this important. There is other stuff I prefer and even think is better in some ways but it doesn't occupy the same place culturally and linguistically.

And look, these things matter and the way you know they matter is that there is no way on earth that a good private school would ever ditch this stuff.

>>136715558
If you claim that its relevance is artificial then you should explain how all the words he invented are not useful or needed for example, start there

>The English language owes a great debt to Shakespeare. He invented over 1700 of our common words by changing nouns into verbs, changing verbs into adjectives, connecting words never before used together, adding prefixes and suffixes, and devising words wholly original

http://www.shakespeare-online.com/biography/wordsinvented.html

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>>136703166
Taste is subjective and literary value is a social construct. Cultural heritage has nothing to do with race and minority voices are just as important.

>>136703166
Do they only study one book per year? Why can't they do both?

When I was in high school we'd study 4-5 books per year: one Shakespeare, one "classic", one "modern", one Newfoundland novel, and another random ones. Plenty of room to include an indigenous author as well as Shakespeare. But then again we don't have any niggers or muslims in NL so we don't have to spend an entire year on one fucking book.

>>136703166
> Ontario’s Lambton Kent District School Board
What the hell is this?
I've never heard of this place before.
Even then, there are 2 school boards for each region. Public schools and catholic schools. It's only to be expected from Public schools.

>>136706018

Is my flag rare enough for the collection senpai?

>>136716532
No I see you like 10 times a day, get off /pol/ and go beat up some Ottomans again.

>>136703166
>he doesn't homeschool or send his kids to Catholic schools

>>136706828
>taking /pol/s opinion on literature seriously

Shakespeare could be taught differently, and I think having a full, page-to-page modern "translation" of the text would be hepful for high-school students. They do it with Chaucer, why not Shakespeare?

>>136715752
I hated Shakespeare, I hated that i was forced to learn it. I got a grade D in english lit that looks fucking awful next to all my As (and B in French) I can honestly say that the only thing forcing me to read shakespeare in school has done is making sure i never read shakespeare again. It should be left out of the curriculuum until later, or at worst, there should be a short introduction to shakespeare towards the end of GCSEs so that sutdents can find out if its something they want to study further, but it shouldnt be something that effects your final grades after leaving school.

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>>136716645

Would love to beat up turkroaches again

>>136716673
You sound like a tard or that you had really awful teachers, aka your typical British public school. I'll go with the latter to your own benefit. Shakespeare is more than having to write some shit about the Merchant of Venice for a mock GCSE though.

>>136716673
I don't know. Merchant of Venice is pretty much /ourbook/.
Story of Christians bullying a jew until he is bankrupt and commits suicide, all the while literally cucking him.

>>136716979
>>136717024
Im a mechanical engineer, I make almost double the average salary for my age group and shakespeare is 100% irrelevant in my life. However great the stories may have been I despise shakespeares style of writing.
He talks like a fag and his shits all retarded.

>>136703166
Seriously though

WHAT INDIGENOUS WRITERS?

Are there any?

>>136717271
The first was right then. You are a tard. Probably northern too, from some shithole Labour constituency.

>>136717271
>He talks like a fag and shits all retarded
>Literally revitalized the English language, invented hundreds of words that are common place
>Also wrote 600 years ago

You're a retard.
A tard.

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>>136709787
>Tradition and culture change.

They sure do.

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>>136707537
bite your tongue.

>>136706648
>>136708170
>>136710482
>>136710837
>>136711214

You people realize that Shakespeare is so well respected and known as a writer because of his eloquent writing in iambic pentameter and the fact that his works tackle universal aspects of the human condition right? Complaining that chucklefucks in school don't like to read him cause he's hard to understand (even though most kids don't read the understandable books in english class anyways) is just stupid and ignorant of the greater themes in his works.

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>>136706199

>yfw they start teaching art of war

>>136703166

>http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-school-board-tosses-shakespeare-for-indigenous-writers/wcm/c5772b75-97a5-4ff1-907d-6fa0d75df5e7

>this is just making the curriculum more relevant to the modern canadian student

Right because the white students are such a small minority compared to all those indigenous students and they can all relate more to the mysticism of Chief Listerine than the themes in Hamlet of Macbeth

>>136707037
Canadas culture was genocided in the fucking 70's dude

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>>136717354
>>136717512
Why are you fanboys so unable to accept that your niche literary homolust dosnt appeal to everybody. Germany has had a bigger influence on the English language than shakespeare but you dont see everybody running around in lederhosen.
How will shakespeare help me strip and rebuild a gearbox? or properly align multiple dieheads down to the micron? Or synchronize multiple TSM terminals over a 7 screw coex?
Not everybody needs this bullshit. And yes Im Northern. We don have time for your artsy fartsy shit up here, we get stuff done.

>>136717561
That mom is about the beat the shit out of that guy. haha

>>136717719
What's wrong with this? Isn't she pointing out the problem that the scientific community is having to content with SJWs?

>>136718359
Fan boy is the wrong word for somebody who isn't even remotely interested in Shakespeare. I'm just commenting on your intelligence, or lack of. You sound like an absolute tard in your wording of things and sound completely out of place on /pol/.

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>>136703166

Quebec fag here,

I'd rather read about native culture than some british faggot who was the /r9k/ of his time.

Also fuck anglos.

>>136718359
And I'm Northern too. Newcastle. I live amongst you inbred freaks, so I can spot one when I'm interacting with one. It's why we have the highest poverty levels in the country. People are like you.

>>136709688

why would they need to remove them when no one has any interest to read them and they won't be taught in mandatory education.

Everything they need to know will be summarized in 15 word tweets from CNN and CBC

>>136718508
Margarat Atwood was a HUGE SJW and is in the women marches against trump

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>>136719012
It must be mental being in your brain. Also the absolute state of your filenames you nonce.

>>136707744
>finishes with 99%
That means math used to be amazing.

>>136718359
You're like a kid in school asking, "oh noes why do we need math?" Books like Shakespeare are parts of Western culture and interesting stories on aspects of the human condition.

>>136719197
Sorry, he can't help it. It's where he's from. Everybody he's ever known is a tard.

>>136719197
And he's a mechanic.

>>136710837
Schools teach 1984 and Animal Farm as well and Brave New World

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>>136706648
Behold, the leaf.

>>136717271
then I take it you carefully make sure you never use any of the 1700 words he is responsible for adding to the English language? Completely irrelevant, right? Who the fuck uses words like bedroom, secure, assassin, label etc

the list goes on and unless you specifically never use these words because you don't know them then you are wrong about Shakespeare being irrelevant in your life

>>136706582
underrated

>>136718359
>Germany
>Lederhosen
Fuck off, you uncultured swine. Lederhosen is a meme forced by Bavarian.

>>136703166
If you teach English literature and decline to teach Shakespeare, you are essentially arguing that there is no great literature and it doesn't matter what you teach.

>>136719143
I just googled molyneux and copied the link, its not my filename dipshit. And I think all brains are mental, isnt that the point?
>>136719197
Math is relevant for everybody, to a degree, shakespeare, not so much.
And im an engineer, im not gonna fix your cortina, I design and build industrial manufacturing equipment.
>>136719364
1984 and BNW are much more poignant in today sworld than shakespeare. Didnt read animal farm but i get the gist.
>>136719382
I use a lot of words whos origin eludes me, dosnt make me any less able to communicate. And reading shakespeare didnt teach me that thats where the words came from, it taught me messed up syntax and outdated ideologies.

>>136719382
>Shakespear invented bedroom
Sure

>>136719003
Fair but isn't she right there pointing out that science is being held to ransom by people who don't agree with facts? I mean you can be a feminist and take issue with them trying to screw with science. Laci Green, for example.

>>136720438
>BNW
Brave New World is anti-capitalist propaganda. It takes place 500 years in an ANCAP world and is suppose to show "See this is what capitalism will lead to"

>ITT anglophones actually complaining about having to study their own fucking literature
>as if being monolingual plebs wasn't already bad enough

No wonder the West is dying.

>>136720064
Sorry Fritz, didnt mean to upset you there, but Bavaria is in Germany is it not?

>>136720438
>t. Karl Pilkington

>>136720516
Ok that's true, nvm you'r right about that

>>136720645
Bro you speak more than one language, that literally makes you a peasant pleb.

>>136720585
Ive read it, thought it was more Anti unchecked consumerism than Anti capitalism, Like we need to reign in our vapid desires and take stock more of what matters, or else those in power will seize on our own corruption and turn us into tools....maybe i read it wrong.

>>136720438
You say books like 1984 and BNW are much more poignant to today's society but what about Romeo and Juliet talking about 14 year olds getting in over their heads and eloping when they've only known each other for a short period of time and think they're in love. Or Julius Caesar talking about valor, honor, and the common good? Stuff like that is very much applicable to modern society.

>>136720649
Yes, but Scotland is a part of UK too, but I dont see you guys wearing kilts. They are probably more comfy than lederhosen.

>>136703166
that's it, we're seceding

Saskatchewan, you're coming with us

>>136720645
Britain has the Welsh and Scottish languages, we aren't monolingual. The thing is though, our language is spoken internationally. We earned that honour and so did all native English speakers. You don't understand how much of a waste of time learning other languages would be to a native English speaker with no specific ambition to do so.

I agree with not knowing Shakespeare bit is ridiculous.

>>136720918
you're right actualyl

>>136720438
Just because the origin eludes you does not mean that it is not relevant for you, it only means you are ignorant about the origin.

And this is only one aspect of it, reading the books will give you a more intimate understanding of the writers psyche and through him a better idea of how society was back then etc

if you read the whole thread you will find the various arguments presented one by one as the anti Shakespeare people have continuously moved the goalpost

>>136706300
>they done this
Well can't say I'm surprised at the results

High schooler from Ontario here. They provide an alternative English class for indigenous literature. It's easy as shit because the teachers have never done it before and don't know what they're doing. But the class is really fucking boring.

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>>136703166
>A BLACK MAN'S TIMELESS ART IS GOING TO BE REPLACED BY SOME CUMSKIN CANADIAN REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Shakespeare is smut and there is nothing to be gained from his stories

How much of a fucking brainlet do you have to be to honestly believe this after having read something like Hamlet or Macbeth? He tackles timeless subjects in a way that is both entertaining and thought provoking. Just because it doesn't scream the message in your face like Orwell does doesn't make it worthless, in fact it makes it more worthwhile.

>>136719572
>>136706582
Too many dick jokes, to be quite honest.

>it's actually nothing BUT dick jokes

>>136721235
yes the lion king is purrfect in every way.
so much very thoughtful.

>>136721157
you have to be 18 to post on 4chan

>>136720933
Fair point.
>>136720927
Huxley and Orwell told it how it was, Shakey may have had some good stories but the way he wrote them was awful.
1984 was a cheeseburger.
Shakespeare is Vegan Patties on avacado toast.
Everybody needs to eat but some of us like a little less faggotry with it.,

>>136721387
avocado toast is fucking delicious, especially with a cheeseburger.

>>136703166
This is a disgrace...

But lets be specific here. This is Ontario, the most shitty, cucked province after Quebec; not all of Canada. This shit wouldnt fly in Alberta.

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How much more Cucked can we get? Will it ever end? When do we fight back? Oh wait, they took all our guns years ago

>>136720497
source: http://www.shakespeare-online.com/biography/wordsinvented.html

even if you doubt that shakespeare himself invented the word it did first appear during his lifetime, before that it was called "sleeping space" or "bedchamber"

>>136721090
I dont know Medicine works, I dont need a degree in human biology in order for it to be effective though.
Im not anti shakkespeare as such, i just feel that the time i spent studying shakespeare was wasted as what little i learned then has no baring on my life at all. Im not saying nobody should study him, just it should be more for writers, philosophers, historians and maybe even psychologists. hence why it should be tought later when people are more sure of where theyre headed in life.

>>136721486
I prefer less faggotry.

>>136703166
>Indigenous writers
They scrapped the course then?

Is Canada in competition with Sweden for the title of gayest country in the world? Jesus.

I preffer Cervantes to Shakespeare, but that's no reason to throw his works. Btw
>Indigenious writers
Explain

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We have the BEST AUTHOR OF ALL TIME and yet we do Shakespeare's boring works rather than hers.

It indisputable that Agatha Christie is the most successful author(fiction) to have ever lived.

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>>136716673
Yep. Shakepeare is theatre, it's made for either watching or acting, not reading. Analysis should come after preferably both. There is zero value in forcing schoolkids to regurgitate pat answers about a script, however impossibly well written.

I doubt that was part of Ontario's reasoning, however. More like fishing for rish leftist sugar daddy financial investment, like all insane left wing things boil down too, somewhat amusingly. What have the natives even written, let alone written worth studying.

"Cold today, big fire in sky does not warm the snow away, so we drink turpentine to kill the time between handouts."

>>136706648
>t. Hipster leaf
I bet the real writers are the people that do slam poetry.

>>136703166
TIL natives had literature

>>136706123
There really aren't any canuck writers worth reading yet. Maybe northrop frye
Either way, I'm sure they could get rid of someone else

>>136720971
Do you speak Welsh and Scottish? I think there are worse things to waste your time with than learning a new language.

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>>136703166
CANADA is a JOKE

>>136703315
>straight to the nuclear option
i like

>>136723030
Little bit of Welsh from being there and needing to see their shit signs. There are people who speak it all the time but the majority do it to piss off English people. As for learning a new language, besides from the bare minimum I mentioned, there's no reason to.

>>136708170
You're a fucking retard
His poetics haven't been beat

All the new canadians could not comprehend Shakespeare.
Therefore the kids learn "BigBear Johnnie is a 2Soul."

>>136720971
>we earned that honor
Lol

>>136723353
There's little reason to learn most languages other than English, that's true. But some could become quite useful in the near future, such as Spanish for Americans or Arabic for Europeans.

shakespeare was an establishment tool designed to unify the language in england. all in order to more easily disseminate the elites propaganda.

seriously, there's actually a lot of evidence for this that i'm too lazy to post here. just google the words shakespeare and conspiracy.

something like 12% of the language is words that shakespeare invented.

anyways, i'm fine for dropping some shakespeare, they make us read like 5 shakespear books in school. how about 2 shakespeare books, a native book, and two sci-fi dystopias warning of a technological nightmare future.

native history has been rewritten by the establishment just so you know. the natives have a longer and more impressive history then we know, including a mass extinction that occured before the arrival of white people.

>>136723199
>>136703315
based bolivia

>>136724823
>two sci-fi dystopias

please, high school is childish enough without that drivel

Who here believes the theory that Shakespeare was illiterate?

Personally, I believe he dictated all of his plays to a scribe. His vocabulary is so vast, as well as his creation of new words. Have you ever been writing, and a word just pops into your mind as being the correct word, yet you have to look it up? And it's correct? This is because language is processed differently when written vs when spoken, and if we had never learned written language, we would perceive language completely different

Think about it. You think in words. Imagine if said words did not have these symbols attached to them? The alphabet, that is. Imagine if there was not such a strong logical anchoring of your language?

I'd imagine you would be much more poetic as well.

>>136703166
>ontario
its to be expected, why are you all surprised

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>>136717893
>yfw they read The Romance of the Three Kingdoms

>>136724823
The issue with Native history in Canada is that they did not have a written language, so everything was passed down through oral tradition. Which is why its so easy to manipulate the natives alive today,
Yes of course they're prideful of their history but the sad reality is that alot of native history and tradition have been lost forever.
Now, the Spanish with the Mayan and Inca histories? They immediately saw them as blasphemy and destroyed every trace they could find so the same thing could happen to future generations.
They're proud of it, but again, they have no real idea what any of it really was or meant.

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>>136703166
This has to be the 7th time I've come across this thread in two months. Please tell me I'm not the only one who's seen this

>>136717859
Imagine people 50 years from now rediscover things like "The Jersey Shore" and "Keeping up With the Kardashians" and say the same things you're saying about Shakespeare, about how these works "tackle universal aspects of the human condition." His "eloquence" is a snob-fest, and the themes he tackles are always base level. Some equally snob intellectuals one day meme'd it into the status of masterpiece and it stuck ever since. If you wanted to fit in with the other intellectuals, you had to agree that Shakespeare was of the highest works in literature.