That's a huge gun for a tank - is France into war now?

>>136690024
Leclerc is an overpriced piece of shit.
Tracks are so weak they broke every hundred kilometers. Literally unusable outside of military parade.

>>136690024
Its a new weapon to satisfy their Arab overlords.

>>136690024
does the guy in the front get beheaded when it turns around?

>>136690024

French society will posture in various contortions in order to attempt to smooth over the problems they have. This is intended to instil confidence amongst ethnic Frenchmen.

The problem is that they cannot fix the problems they have. The number of muslims or niggers will not fall, only grow. This is like the scene in Soylent Green, the last gasp of France before nightfall.

>massive gun
>120mm

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>>136690323
I NEED THAT VIDEO!

>>136690024
That gun is normal for a tank that size. Article was written by a 25 year old who's never seen a tank

>>136690413
Doesn't even look THAT big. Looks like a 105?!

>>136690024
Looks like a normal Leclerc, what am I missing?

>>136690628
It's 120mm, doesn't matter really if the tank is a piece of shit.

>>136690024
How did they make it simple enough so niggers can control it?
I mean half of the French army are niggers and goat people wearing sandals.

>>136690024
>2017
>manned turret
Rorlcopter

>>136690024
>is France into war now?
They always have been...
Vive les gaulois!

>>136690024
Actually Europe is getting into War mode
Germany is instructing the nations to build up their military
Germany will develop an eu army, becoming the leading nation
when every nation has a big military, germany as the last one will start producing
and i mean full blown, nukes, new gen fighting jets, tanks, futuristic shit etc
Merkel has pushed Europe to an economical Superpower, and now the military complex is next
She does it like hitler, but only slower and more shady
Trust Merkel, of course we have problems with some arabs and sometimes a few people die by them, but merkel thinks like that, that its better to sacrifice a few persons than whole europe
Just think back, after ww2 europe had no chance of suriving
One false move, and we would have been fucked
We hated eachother, war could break out any minute between the eu countries
We were poor as fuck, russia looked at us with a grin, america with its jews looked at us with a grin, the east also was getting pretty big
Merkel united the eu countries pretty well, the economic went up, the only! thing that sucks is the migrant crisis
But
We need more young man that can fight, and that can work for our pensions
You would say, so what, the germans should just get more children
Ok
That wont work, first off, you need to send back the women to the kitchen and tell her to stay at home, which doesnt work in terms of the economy, and then have 10 children with her
Such a sudden explosion of the population would also wreck the economy, suddenly everyone getting children at the same time would fuck up everything
So merkel brings in refugees
Its the only thing that could work
Of course it can also fail, but if it fails
Merkel would remove them and look for another plan
Merkel is not stupid and not an evil kike bitch

>>136690024
It looks a little blocky.

>new tank

Where?

>>136690138
This

The western european weapon industries are completely fucked

>>136690966
Define 'evil kike bitch' please

It was possible to make a change to increase the birth rate, but they decided that a 'healthy' growth of the economy is more important

>>136690024
Is that just an upgunned Leclerc?

>>136690966
Hmm fills me with a sense of hope. But Im still not buying the migrant solution... there is far too much global evidence that these people are not able to be civilized and will only be a constant drain on all social systems including law enforcement.

>>136690024
>That hat
Fucking hell....

>>136690024
If it was painted white, the main gun couldn't be that big

>>136691781
>The western european weapon industries are completely fucked

FN Herstal reporting in.

>new tank
>from 1982
wat

>>136690138
Heard the transmission has 1 fwd gear and 10 for reverse

>>136690707
It's just a Leclerc with maybe some new upgrades.

>>136692108
came here to post this

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>>136692309
>>136692400

> French tank
Only drives in reverse. And has a big white flag that pops out...

>>136690024
Who are they going to fight anyways, NK or Russia? Yeah gl France with your 200 leclercs, the odds are 90-1. Maybe keep a spare white flag in there somewhere

>>136692309
gotem

>>136692231
t.plastic fantastic

>>136692565
You just described every oversea american intervention

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>>136692309

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>>136690024
Why build a tank when you have the best antitank of the world?

>>136690847
>2017
>carousel turret launcher

>>136692853
lol

>>136690024
France always had one of the largest militaries in europe. It is nothing new if you consider their history.

>>136690966
>Merkel has pushed Europe to an economical Superpower
What the hell are you on about? It's less relevant now economically than it ever was. Half a century ago western Europe had a better economy than it has now.

>>136692832
so antitanks are also just tanks
except with wheels?
pff whatever

France is the next Natsoc nation being built up Macron is Hitler 2.0

>>136693408
>so antitanks are also just tanks

their only purpose in life is to destroy other tanks

>>136693520
What's the point when Javelin's/Brimstone missiles can do the job? Waste of resources tbqh.

>>136690024
wow that gun is so huge and scary
is this the infamous ar 15?

>>136690024
France loves war, homies will invade anywhere with USA. They were drooling at the mouth hoping to get into syria

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>>136690024
The last French military victory since Napoleon was French frogmen dynamiting a ship full of unarmed hippies - like the cowards that they are. France is like Sweden, gay as fuck

>>136690966
>Austrian being pro militarization and on the side of the german chancellor
Next you will tell me how your art isn't appreciated by modern art schools.

>>136690024
what a bad tank design for the driver

if the gun isnt' facing directly front. And say a few degrees pointing away from front.

If the driver needs to bail out. he can't.

bad bad tank turret design

>>136694454
PAY TAX!

>>136690024
Where's the massive gun? All I see is a standard 120mm.

>>136694558
why? i am happy that i do not have to pay tax

and go fuck yourself, and suck a tea flavored dick.

you jelly, cause i get everything you do. But pay zero taxes. How awesome is my country

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>>136690024
That's the new national butt plug.

>>136693649
range

>>136690024
They better work on the Rafale, tanks are useless now.

>>136694724
PAY TAX NOW! YOU OWE TRILLIONS! YOU PAY TAX, PAY NOW!

>>136692309
The joke is : 5 reverse and one forward... in case they are attacked from behind.

You're a big gun.

>>136694068
man what you said just pissed me off so much !

i am now filled with anger !

>>136690323
It's a cost-savings measure so that the citizens of Paris don't have to do it themselves

>>136690024
>That's a huge gu
4U

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>>136692309

How fast does it reverse?

>>136695047
>tanks are useless now

Only if you lack air superiority. Otherwise, they are not useless.

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>>136690024
>inside the barrel is a flagpole that shoots out rolling out a white flag.

>>136694068
Damn ! Stopping History class at 13yo wasn't a good idea

>>136695117
butt plug

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>>136690024
Here's the original lads

>>136690024
Will never beat the Leopard, or even the Abrams. Both are tried and tested tanks that are vigorously supported by their nations respective military complexes. Anything the Leclerc can do has been done 9 years ago by the Germans and Americans.
And let's not forget that thanks are useless unless you can effectively employ them, something France has never found the capacity to do.

>>136690323
It's only a decoy; fake head.

>>136695728
>Leopard is best tank ever
When will this meme ends?

>>136690394
If they get enough patrolmen, the might eventually expel the Mozzies, Anon. If all of a sudden, they started mass deportations, the softest of the French citizens would get in their way and stop the process but this way the build to removal is more obvious and nobody should get surprised.

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>>136691934
>be Japan
>say something dumb like "it's possible to change the birth rate.
Mfw
I'm going to come to Japan for a week and put little mixed babies in 10 of your women.

>>136690966
found the jew claiming merkel is good for germany

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problem....the turret could decapitate driver

>>136691781
the Europeans might struggle to build machines of war, that certainly isn't all of us

They say this is the first tank in the world to have 1 gear forward, and 3 in reverse. It also comes equipped with backup lights. White flag is optional, but available from the manufacturer.

>>136691781
In general yes. Most exist as state welfare projects muh jobs. A few have high quality export systems.

>>136692231
You make a couple of good em gees.

>>136690024
>NatSoc board
>Still bust France's balls for surrenduring to the nazis

just make up your minds you fags, is hitler evil or not

>>136692716
you live in a nation the size of a small city that is run and owned by jews

>>136690610

The shroud thickness confused him.

>>136690966
You haven't taken your medicine today have you?

>>136692832

Helicopters are the best anti-tank weapons. Your tanks are pretty useless without air superiority

>>136696016
As soon as you frogman built a beer one than Germans/Americans :^)

>>136697002
*Better

T-90 is the best tank in service.

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>>136692853
>Doesn't hang surrender flag from massive main flagpole

>>136697002
with all the niggers and muslims in europe soon they won't even be able to drive them lol

>>136697058

The french one actually beats the t90 though

>>136697058
WRONG

>>136697123
Which leaves us with America's Abrams and Canada's imported Leopards. You guys already have 13% nogs tho

>>136690024
The gun needs to be that big so that they can hang their gigantic white flag on it.

>>136696787
America miniaturized

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>>136690966
Excellent post, very thought provoking.

>>136693386
It was more free, and people lived better lives. But that's a stat only recorded by the Bhutanese, gross domestic happiness. I think Hitler with the digits picked it like a dirty nose, they're not brewing a 'happiness' state, they're building a fucking war machine.

Ok so, we've got hopeless fatalistic well military trained youth. I could operate an ak47 before I shot my first one in Cambodia, I also knew how to select firing modes, unjam it and load a fresh mag without ANY firearms training in my life.

>Oldfag from counter strike beta, when the colt had a scope

Video games have taught us firearms basics and muscle memory grenade handling skills. Your brain knows roughly what to expect due to your videogame experiences. I've thrown a grenade too (Cambodia) I was explained how to use it in engrish.

We all know basic squad infantry tactics, and we know how to shoot first think later, and all of us will be vicious war machines with combat built into our brains from computer games.. if pushed and consenting to do it.

This must be why they're making us angry, grooming all of us smartass civilians for war mode.

>>136690024
The leclerc has major mechanical and survivability issues, the gun was one of the few decent things about it

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>>136696959
Helicopters are prone to aa fire due to their inferior speed compared to jets.
Armor will be replaced as modern doctrine demands speed and flexibility which tanks simply can offer like they did last century.
Uranium ammunition can effectively bring anti tank rifles back into the frey even if we all like to pretend it were beyond us.
>>136697594
Who would have guessed that the french would surrender to allah?

>>136690847
*shoots your optics*
What now?

>>136690966
Bollocks. Even hitler provides incentives for Germans to have kids.
Eg. Government loans to buy state built housing.
25% discount for each child. 4 children? Free home.

How the fuck does bringing in illiterate toothless peasants from the 3rd world (polygamous world) that couldn't even earn €1 a day to win a wife in buttfuckistan translate into a net positive for Germany?
The majority of them will never work, will never learn a skill or trade, will never produce anything of value or even build a house, will never be able to court German women and have a strong and stable family.
It's bollocks. They're the balkanisation of Europe.

You'd hope they'd start building better tanks after the 10th Panzer Division broke the record for the Tour de France

>>136690024
>implying bore size matters anymore
Pressure is more important, its why the 120mm on the m1a2 and leopard 2 outperforms 125mm Russian tank guns.

>>136698722
Speed kills and lower diameters allow for faster projectiles.

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>>136692309

>>136690323
Sneaky mudslime engineers!

>>136690024
>Just showed off
>Been in service for decades
What did they mean by this?

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>>136690024
>Massive Main Gun
>looks exactly like every other MBT

France, ladies and gentlemen.

>>136690610
>>136690707
this
>>136690138
leclerc is one of the best tank on the market, that doesn't make it perfect though

>>136690024
I thought France ditched the famas?

>>136694810
Portugal this is at least the 3rd time I see you posting gay shit today, stop this at once. /pol/ is an heterosexual board.

>>136690024
it's a reaction to amarta...
the LEOs main gun already had problems to penetrate a T90 without special (expensive) tungston slugs... i guess this is the first reaction we see...

fun fact amarta was planned with a bigger main gun too but armor of most nato tanks at the moment is so poor that they went with a smaller main gun for now and kept the bigger one for later revisions...

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>>136703009
I assure you, this is not gay. Darling.

>>136690024

1) the Leclerc has been in use since 1993

2) there is nothing new or different about the one in the OP picture, it's literally a standard Leclerc, pic probably taken about 4 or 5 years ago

3) this thread is retarded

>>136705412
here is the article...
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/france-just-showed-new-tank-sporting-massive-main-gun-21797
btw. op is faggot for not providing the link...

however the article only uses stock photos... no picture of the tank with new main gun.

if you want to see them you have to follow the links in the article...
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kJ7UedEDts4/WRCnMMbspvI/AAAAAAABaT8/ntTDwTfyIOMitpeooTKgA9JnLvtSMAycACLcB/s1600/SFeN7d0.jpg

>>136690024
this is a bwonderful design they even hidden the white flag so you can have a little surprise when they surrender

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>>136690966
So, Merkel plans to use his Dothraki army in WW3... but against who?

>>136690024
Cool, so any round that hits the front glacis plate just automatically shot traps into that giant front turret overlap/stupid cutout where the gun is mounted, and either kills tank, or hopelessly jams turret and makes tank useless.. Enemies don't even have to aim.

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>>136690966
kys plz

>>136690024
Current year and still designing new tanks lol, when the world has another global conflict conventional shit like tanks will go out the window, just like in WW1 and WW2 the modern tactics of the time changed and whoever didnt change with them got rekt (france). A large slow target like a tank will just get hit with a missle by a jet before they even see it.

>>136703659
Standard APFSDSs are tungsten or DU. And they struggle with T-90A in the frontal 60 degree at typical combat ranges.
Russian APFSDS were inferior due to having two piece ammo and less length to penetrators, possessing inferior L:D ratio compared to Western.

However, Soviet tanks had better KE resistance on average, M1, L2 and Challenger being inferior to T-64B, T-72A, T-80 in 1980s.

The current Russian 125 on Armata is more powerful, though, and Armata is intended to be upgunned when the rest of the world moves on from 1979/1980 designs.

Cold War end also meant the end for several very promising and insanely powerful tank projects, prototypes still in existence though.
Three man unmanned turret 152 mm smoothbore Soviets and 140 mm Americans, among others.

The idiot talking nonsense about larger diameter being bad for penetrating power obviously has no idea about APCR, APDS or APFSDS

>>136690138
Was up at Saumur today. Can't deny the thing is sexy as fuck.

>>136700414
>lower diameter allows for faster projectiles
>I am a certified total imbecile

You've never heard of HEAT where larger diameter is better, or APFSDS where larger diameter of the sabot allows pressure to be applied accross a larger base area and propel the resulting tungsten/uranium dart at higher speed for lower chamber pressure?

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>>136697002
Oh you're just jealous ours was bigger.

>>136710225
That article is from years ago when the Leclec genuinely had the longest gun in NATO. Since surpassed by the Leopard 2A6

>>136712150
Yep, L/52 vs L/44, surpassed by Rheinmetal L/55 on 2A6

>>136711492
Fun fact: America once had a program to build a 152mm atgm capable of being launched from a tank. Imagine if that tank and missile were ever actually developed.

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>>136712886
M60A2 ftw. Why didn't you guys keep that shit up?

>>136690966
>this is what sud deutschers truly believe in
Truly austria was better off during the habsburg rule.

>>136690024
So frogs took a T-90 put some stickers and lights (for the roudabouts n shit) changed the main gun for something more like a dwarf howitzer and they all proud?

Hope Europe don't have to go to war anytime soon

>>136690628
If you can eyeball a 15mm difference on this picture taken from like 30 feet away then you have far better eyes than me.

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>>136715443
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THICCER

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>>136695713
TOP KEK, I was about to do the exact same thing, but i decided to check the thread first.

>>136697689
Kek got him.

>>136712886
The Soviets actually did develop it, and unlike the Americans theirs actually worked.

>>136715443
probably a law that the barrel cant extend past the tank

>>136692309
damn bruh

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>>136690024
Cute

>>136716048
comfy

>>136707054
140 mm... Mon pénis

>Are the French actually /ourtanks/?

They will be when you force them into your EU meme army

>>136712886
Soviet 115/125mm smoothbores were a more superior, practical choice and design.

Prove me wrong.

>Protip: you can't

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>>136716048
That armor appears to have leather on it, well done.

>>136717470
Soviets generally had better land tech than Americans anyway, up until the 1990s.

>>136712886
I've never actually understood the advantage of launching a guided missile from a tank main gun rather than a separate tube. Somewhat faster launch acceleration?

>>136690024
That's a pretty standard caliber for a modern tank.

>>136690024
Pretty nice tank. Too bad it relies on a frog to drive it

>>136717644
If the tube is external it has to be reloaded externally. If the tube is internal and separate then what the fuck are you even doing?

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>>136717544
Good thing you agree, because you are correct for the most part desu. Besides Russia has a solid history of mostly fighting land wars, it's no surprise they naturally invested into mechanized infantry and armor.

>>136717539
that's quilted thermal insulation to mask the IR signature of the vehicle

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>>136717777
Czech'd

>>136690024
>meanwhile Switzerland has jammed 140mm gun into a leopard 2
>leclerc "new"
>120mm "bigger than normal"
Kek

>>136690323
*Slightly press the joystick to the right
RIP Antoine

How many reverse gears has it got?

>>136690966
nice pasta

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>>136717972
>be sowjets
>jam a 152mm into a t80

Really fires up the frontal cortex doesn't it, huh?

>>136690323

when i was in the army i saw a video of a polish tank driver getting beheaded after the gun barrel got stuck in the ground

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>>136690024
meh

>>136695713
I was about to bleach the flags too man.

>>136690847
Bitch please. No auto loader on earth can replace manpower. Average auto loader time is 7 seconds. US Army standered for a sabot round is just under 6 seconds. I wouldn't expect a subhuman slav with Russian t56 bullshit to know what the fuck he's talking about though.

>>136690842
Actually, no

Joining the french army requires passing an IQ and personality test. Some nogs go manage, but in proportion to the total populatin, it is a tiny number.

>>136717722
I take your point. Separate ammunition feeds might be simpler though, you're already potentially dealing with, HEAT and dart types. Since it's a guided missile it could be launched straight up vertically from the top of the turret.

>>136690323
Most tanks don't turn their main turret until the drive activates it.

But yeah, can happen if they forget.

>>136696959
No one is getting air superiority in ww3. Tacticals will take out every carrier and airstrip on both all sides.

>>136716530
Imagine being the family of that one guy that was killed?

Or the guy who shot one of his own tanks?

>>136692832
Because if you can afford the price, a (modern) main battle tank is the best tank killer.

>>136717470
I can't, smoothbore is the way of the future
>higher chamber pressure
>less maintenance
>can fire atgms
>longer range

mechs, when?

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>>136718739
>amerikeks don't want to leave their afro-american tank loaders without a job so they don't switch over to unmanned turrets yet

Top Fucking Kek. Stay salty.

>be armata crew
>spot 20 abrams tanks 10km away thanks to remote controlled drone
>move into position for ambush
>fire at them from a distance of 6km
>turn them all into burning heaps of metal in under 45 seconds

>inb4 hurr duRRR HURRRRR DURRRRRRRR: the post

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Armata is the true patrician tank. Prove me wrong pol. Pro tip: you can't :^)

>>136718271
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1502298210736.webm

>>136694068
No it was in fact securing half of Africa from retarded islamists you and your retarded american friends unleashed from middle east, rosbiff cuck.

>>136702860
Currently replacing it, unit by unit

>>136694068
Pakistan never won any war

>>136690138
Still the best proven tank in the middle east, survived lots of RPJs and Mines, while Abrams and Leopard and Challenger and T-90/72 couldn't

>>136692832
Centauro is a cool name for it.

>>136693386
>Russia talking economy
EU's economy is second to Germany in the world, btw

>>136719533
This is accurate

>>136719693
T-80U best tank by aesthetics

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>>136692309
Nice 9fag meme, is this 2013??

>>136719693
>ring ammo rack below the turret
Nice to see them keeping the tradition of tanks popping like a champagne bottle when hit, I see.

>>136696959
Heli's a fucking sitting ducks against modern AA systems

>>136718271

what so bad about aa-52, the US still use the M2 machine gun right ?

>>136720052
Meant US, damn

>>136720145
I think someones jealous of a real military

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>>136718271
We are actualy changing.
France stops making assault rifles.

I think we will keep the FA-MAS as a matter of pride durin parades.

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>>136720212
The active protection system will take care of any incoming projectiles and in case the ammo does ignite the crew is in a sealed compartment. Stay triggered nato cuck.

:^)

Im just curious what place to do tanks have in a modern war when a single soldier can kill a modern tank with a handheld weapon.

>>136713221
Expensive as fuck, low muzzle velocity, and the shilelagh missile was pretty unreliable. Great idea overall but a tad ahead of its time.

>>136719987
Leclerc got fucked up in Yemen by the Houthis

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>>136720565
>be armata aps
>btfo all modern atgms

You jealous Attila?

>>136720549
APS only works when fired at from a long range

>>136720700
>giving a shit what sand niggers do with anything

>>136720781
I dont believe in aps systems in the first place.Sure it works great in a test situation on an empty field at ideal conditions.Throw a IR smoke in the show and you get fucked.

>>136690024
the Leclerc is like 25 years old, that ain't new

>>136720914
>he says
>hoping to take attention away from abrams being turned into scrap metal

if I remember correctly americans would always use the adventures of sand niggers to shit talk russian tanks

>>136720479
In France's defense just about everyone seems to be going to an AR derivative. Plus I'm pretty sure the factory that made the FAMAS shut down years ago so it wasn't like it was a terrible design overall.

>>136713221

This thing was such a piece of shit in Armored Warfare. Working through it on the tech tree was pure suffering.

>>136720565
Tanks are for crossing open fields.

That's what they were made for in 1917. That's what they're made for in 2017. Enemy is over there, we're over here, and there's a fuckload of exposed ground in between.

>but tanks are easy to blow up
Infantry are even easier to blow up.

>>136722232
And they were very succesful in 1917 at crossing open fields.100 years later they are just target practice for artillery and anti-tank weapons.
Tanks are useful today only if the enemy is stuck with 1917 levels of weaponry.Like defending a government from its citizens.

>>136722953
>And they were very succesful in 1917 at crossing open fields.100 years later they are just target practice for artillery and anti-tank weapons.
Okay then, so how are you going to cross an open field without tanks?

>>136694179
Top kek

>>136720549
Lots of praise for a tank that's never seen combat.

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>>136724762
We'd rather send those tanks against rapid moving and hidden ennemies.

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>>136724762
We use even smaller tanks in sub-saharian Africa

>>136690966
Germany doesn't even spent it's NATO commitment.

>>136720212
thats meant for fast evac of crew

>>136722953
thermal cameras make shooting a tank a bit of a bitch
t. carl gustav man

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>>136690024

The EU Army is going to be used Domestically(NATO is International) against countries leaving/resisting the EU. It is also going to be used to guard/protect EU "Fortress" Territories against the Islamic Caliphate.

[The Information in the KB Threads(http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.x/subject/Knowledge%20Bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/) is so powerful/truthful a massive Shill Operation is going on against them: >>135707045 ]

NATO arms have been used to bolster the secret build up of it & the EU already has things in place for it.

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>>136692853