AUTOGYNEPHILIA IS THE REAL RED PILL

im on to you, jew

This was the thing about men taking sexual pleasure from the idea of being a woman?

>Anne Lawrence
Literally who.

>>136678868
who gives a shit
this applies to like .1% of the population
there are bigger fish to fry anon

>>136685996
it matters because it undermines the leftist/sjw obsession with transgenderism.

OP is right, it's a disgusting fetish.

Mock them for having a fetish, good meme and will BTFO the left

>>136687190
needs to be the new cuck

>>136687190
I always had this impression.

there might be genuine cases of mentally 'being the other gender', but I think it's very rare. most trannies seem like narcissistic fetishists than anything else, and this is confirmation.

>>136687433
trannies on /lgbt/ actually use AGP as a way to insult each other, and also hon (not sure if it's an acronym or what, but from what i gather it's a veteran tranny who did it before there was better treatment and look and act manly still)

i go there every now and then to stir the pot and turn them against each other, they're quite mental.

cuck was so successful though because i think it hit home against those who fantasise about being a cuckold or actively participate in that lifestyle. there's a lot less trannies in the world but to call them autogynophile laddie LARPers would BTFO them out still, just wouldn't have as wide a reach other than to piss off virtue signallers.

>>136687624
I've visited there a few times, they're definitely unstable.

I've seen their 'hon' insult too. from what I understand, it mostly refers to a tranny who cannot 'pass' as female.

cuck definitely seemed to hit too close to home for alot of people. it's true that there are not many trannies, but they've become a battle standard for SJWs.

>>136685996
This is important. We need to expose the trannies as mentally ill. And stop pc tranny indoctrination of children.

It certainly exists but I dont know if it's the cause of every tranny out there. Definitely plays a role in the rise of it though I think. I am 100% confident 4chan trannies have this.

>>136678868
But is fucking them gay? Are they like traps? Gestalt needed

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>>136678868
Autogynephile here. I'll admit I've thought about popping pills and becoming a titted freak. Or at least what the hell else I can do about this besides crossdress and jack off forever. There are a few psychs out there who have the balls to name the AGP but still push the pills and shit on autogynephiles to neuter their sexual motivations. I'm still young and unmanly so I see a body that is congruent with the fetishished image in my mind when I look in the mirror. I'll never have a normal relationshit with a woman. Or a man, but that's actually more realistic.

And that's all I have to say about that, gotta go.

>>136688949
true I'm only this way because I saw a sissy captions thread on /b/ when I was 12 and became obsessed with it and it fucked me up for life.

>>136689136
If you still want to after you jack off then you might as well do it it really does feel great

Recommend you get yourselves some estrogen blockers, autogynophiles.
Cuckolds, too.
Try it out.
Jews poisoned your brains with chemicals.
You should poison yourself right back.
Embrace the world of strife!

>>136678868
Maybe if you stop calling us faggots because all we want to do is put on a nice dress and a pair of heels, then maybe AGP won't be a meme anymore.

>>136689136
Get on tren ace, test, Deca and cyalis.

Best stack for male vitality.

You will become a walking erect cock.

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The idea OP is offering is nothing new; it's been already been discussed before and internet searches provides result trying to "debunk" this. However, their attempts at trying to "debunk" this might imply that it is a concept we can put into use to anger the left and take out any legitimacy to the Trans movement. We just need to keep on mind they are unto us. Pic related (Just a small example).

>>136689645
You're a faggot for wanting to put on a dress and heels.

>>136689190
I saw cheese pizza on /b/ when I was 12 but I'm not a pedophile. If you weren't revolted by it it's your own fault homo.

>>136689889
Then AGP will forever be a meme. I don't fucking get it, it's just clothes, why are people so bothered with it?

>>136689136
>still young and unmanly
>never have relationship with a woman
Instead of giving up and giving in to fetishes, start working hard and being the best you can be.

You said you were leaving, so maybe this reply is of no use, but perhaps someone else will benefit from it.

1. start exercising and lifting, heavy weights with less reps, to build strength and power.
2. eat heathily and avoid all xenooestrogens.
read about testosterone boosting foods.
3. stop watching porn completely.
4. fap 3-4 times a week to your imagination.
imagine yourself penetrating a female, preferably a pretty one you've met or spoken to.
5. learn new useful skills to boost your confidence and self esteem.

With a few months like that, you will probably lose the fetish and feel a lot better.
Lots of this modern fetishism comes from porn watching and low self esteem.
Fight those two things and you'll be on a good path.

>>136690144
Same reason we hate other faggots. You're socially degenerate, and hate is how polite societies cure their ailments without resorting to stringing you fucks up from lamp posts, so how about you unironically check your fag privilege and go look for some place in the outback to hide on the DOTR

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>>136678868
yes well death to trannies and traps

Yeah anything not straight is generally a short timed recurring fetish. It's ridiculous to believe that a gay bottom man wouldn't have sex with a pretty woman if he was alone with her.

>>136690331
Aaaaay it's this guy. Got anything new?

>>136690144
>>136690144
I don't care if an adult male wants to become a laughing stock. I get mad when I see children being pushed into it and fed drugs and then mutilated for life by profit driven con artist doctors while the media shoves them in my face and tells me to clap about it.

>>136689190
It's just a fetish.
Stop porn watching completely, stop fapping for a few weeks, and then just masturbate once or twice a week for some months, focussing on imagining yourself as the dominant one, fucking a healthy girl.
Within 3-6 months you'll be a lot better mentally.

Look up "your brain on porn". There is a website all about this.
Brain is plastic, you can change it and fix it.
You are not fucked up for life.

>>136690135
Idk I still remeber it it was about a kid who was bullied and forced to give his bullies a blowjob and a cop caught him and made him blow him too. I wasn't even that interested in the sex it was just that the domination aspect really stood out to me and I could never stop thinking about it. So I blame /b/.

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>>136690331
reminder

>>136690308
Should I kill myself for wearing what essentially just clothing?

>>136690164
Cardio is important too, especially for mental health.

>>136690398
No. I don't want to be dominant and I'd rather fuck a cactus than a woman.
Idk about the porn thing I've gone for long stretches without fapping I'm pretty sure that somthing deep in my brain is really broken.

>>136690502
No, you should unfuck your shit and stop being a faggot because I'm willing to gamble you're white on account of the fact you haven't shat a bix nood out there yet.
>>136690164
Or, yes, go neck yourself because I don't want you influencing my society in any way, shape, or form.

>>136690542
Strength exercises build muscle mass which increases testosterone production.
Cardio is good for health as long as you don't overdo it, but doesn't really boost test, and can do the opposite as endurance exercises release stress chemicals which lower test.

More muscle mass means more test, and these people need a massive dose.

>>136690432
Slavery was practiced in far more societies and cultures throughout human history than not. You have slave genes nigger. Go jack off about it.

Literally every MtT "lesbian" is an autogynephiliac. The only trannies that aren't are super effeminate gay men. Any masculine tranny like Bruce Jenner gets a tingle in his lady penis from dressing like a girl

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>>136690484
so? you just posted a mans sick fantasy what do I have to do with that you fucking mong.

>>136690361
got a few , yeah

>>136690743
No I have strong white genes my brothers or dad aren't like this, I think I was just exposed too sex too early and it fucked my brain up.

>>136678868

Yes

Most western (white) transgenders are AGP. Often they remain sexually attracted to women and are not exclusively homosexual 'bottoms'.

In Asia, Homosexual Transexuals (HSTS) are far more common. They are only attracted to males and are physically small (slender, small bone structure) from birth.

>>136690635
Have your hormone levels checked.
Did you pass through puberty normally?
Any problems with the relationship between you and your parents?

Go for a hormone blood test, it is quick.
Testosterone, free testosterone, oestrogen/estradiol, T3/T4, SHBG, prolactin, LH, FSH.
Maybe a couple more, but it will tell you a lot about whether you need medical treatment for a hormone imbalance.

No porn is more important than no fap.
Really, if your hormones are fine, and you spend a few months with a patient woman in a relationship, you'll feel like a new man.
You just need some rehabilitation.

Once your fetish is gone, you'll feel clean in your brain and won't have sex on the brain all the time.

Since you started porn from a young age, you might need longer for the no porn to work.
No fap for a few weeks, then just once or twice a week thereafter.
No porn forever.
After a couple of months, you really won't miss the porn.

Replace it with exercise or study or a new activity.

>>136690680
I didn't say not to lift. But anyone who stays natty and doesn't go for powerlifter fat ass mode will never build so much mass as to inhibit their cardio ability/potential. And your right, cardio releases chemicals that combat stress. That's why I recommend it. I've never heard that those dopamine hits can effect test levels. Link me if you want otherwise I'll look into it myself later.

I don't really know how to use fitness to cure trannies. Just anxiety, depression, and addiction. If the trannies reading this have those as well as faggotry then they should include cardio because it works wonders for that.

>>136691172
I've been on hrt for a while so I don't think that applies to me. I passed through puberty normally and have a good relationship with both my parents.
Trying the noporn thing definitely seems like a good idea. It just sucks because I don't really no what to do all day if I can't use 4chan. And I'd never enter a relationship with a woman.

>>136690638
Sorry anon I can't give up dresses stockings and heels I'll keep being a degenerate, but it keeps me happy.

>>136691284
Don't remember where I read about it.
It was regarding endurance exercise, at a certain point the body reacts with stress chemicals, which reduce testosterone.
I don't know if it is an ongoing effect or only in that time.

I would agree, stick with strength exercises but don't go powerlifter. Walking, running, swimming in combination is fine as long as it isn't excessive.

I think exercise can do a lot for mental health problems, reduce overall stress, raise testosterone, balance hormone levels, and raise confidence and self esteem.

>>136691467
HRT as in which way, it is a general term.

If you are on testosterone, the I'd ask why.
If you are on testosterone blockers, same question, why.

If you want a shot at a normal, fulfilling life - make a really solid 100% effort without any excuses.
Like you are fighting cancer.

That means stopping any porn, any drugs.
Starting a solid exercise habit, for strength and power.
Eating healthily to boost testosterone.
Doing activities to raise ability, self confidence and esteem.

Being dominant is the natural state of a man.
Accept it and work towards it.
Everything in life is practice, if you face your fears and work hard, you will succeed, even if it takes several attempts, even if it takes a hundred.

You don't sound content with the way things are, do something about it.

>>136691172
>oestrogen
do you mean estrogen

>>136692197
I'm on testosterone blockers yeah. I just really like it. I like having soft skin and boobs and a girly face, idk why it just makes me feel good. I don't want to stop that.
I don't want to be dominant. I just don't want to be a sex obsessed pervert. Honestly I'm gonna try the exercise regiment and the noporn. Even if it doesn't fix that it sounds really healthy and that it's worth a shot to try.

>>136690925
>strong white genes
lol, you're a faggot fruitcake who needs the gas

>>136678868
Nope. Autogynephilia is when a "clam digger" sees a dick in his clam digger porno and thinks he's a woman. Because straight men are faggots who think no homo and balls not touching makes them straight. Zero gays do this. Straights think men make them womany. It's women. They don't know difference (there isn't one) between a neo vagina and a vagina. That "difference" is "vaginismus". When a "regular" gash closes up on its own too, refusing penetration. Nobody needs to directly fuck wombs to make babby nor even biological wombs soon anymore. Muh metal rod! You guys repopularised these things. Beacuse you have no balls. Hence the autogynephilia. Lmfao.

The problem is that most males have autogynephilia , so then what separates us from them?
Doesn't it just normalise transgenderism at the expense of autogynephilia when transgenderism should be attacked since it's more deranged/degenerate?

>>136692552
I have better genes than your 86 chromasomed hick ass

>>136692524
>I just don't want to be a sex obsessed pervert.
It's impossible not to be this when one of your central life goals has been to dress up and pretend to be the natural cum receptacle of men. You can't give birth. All you can do is take loads in the ass, fag. What a worthwhile existence.

>>136692802
>being this far gone over your obsession with faggot sex
the only cure is lead

>tfw have a fetish for the idea of being a woman
>don't want to actually be a woman
>know I will never be a woman either way
>all I can do is sit here and pretend to be a shapeshifter

Full-body prostheses can't come soon enough.
A male one for my day to day life, and a female one for sex.

>>136692442
Look it up, ignorant retard.

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>>136693369
?le big muscle man maymay xDDDDD

>>136693261
Ok deliverance. Sounds like you. There are men. There are women. Then there are weak bitches who call themselves clam cucks. Youre obsessive. I defend. You lie. I set the records straight. Or gay I should say. Kys

>>136693261
Thanks. But that's why my plan is to keep my fantasies in my head where they belong until I find a husband.

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>>136693613
The only solution is suicide

>>136692197
thid

>>136692524
Well dude, looks like you never grew up and took responsibility for yourself.

Soft skin etc is what children have.
You might feel comfy having your mother breast feeding you a few times a day, and washing you in the bath with a warm sponge.
It isn't healthy though.

Testosterone is vital for males. Read about the short and long term consequences of low testosterone or hypogonadism.
Low test shortens your life, increases risk of heart disease, dementia, Parkinson's, diabetes, osteoporosis.
It affects your memory and concentration abilities on a day to day basis. Reduces muscle mass, weakens your bones.
Long term it reduces your brain size.

Testosterone is an absolute gift.
The more you learn about it, the more you will value it.

For the sex obsessed part, it is likely a combination.
Exercise can replace a lot of it, by redirecting your excessive sexual desires to exercising each time.
Over time it will build new habits and patterns.
No porn forever.
6-12 months and your brain will be greatly healed.
Read "your brain on porn" for more info, there's a site.

Really consider dropping the drugs and trusting me. If you don't like a year of being clean, you can always go back to the drugs.
Chances are, a year of exercise, healthy food, no porn and a healthy lifestyle will start you thinking of possibilties you hadn't thought possible.

>>136693261
this right here

trannies are mentally ill freaks who need to be shamed, they're about as smart of a lifestyle choice as walking around drunk on a freewa at night is "muh choice"

>>136693897
Based Spaniard. I'm impressed

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>>136690865
Fuck... I've never seen the version with pics

>>136693692
No I don't want to die I want to desex my brain it's really not hard to understand.

>>136689768
>dont listen to THEIR social construct, MY social construct justifies my degeneracy and therefore is correct

>>136693897
I'm not gonna get off the hormones. Excercising does seem like a really good idea though. Maybe I'll get a gym membership. Noporn seems hard but doable. Thanks for the advice.

>>136693952
https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Un-clit_2.0

>>136693552
Faggots are the ones who obsess over having dicks shoved in their ass. There's no biological purpose to that, and your irrational focus on making it the center of your life makes you a pervert. I already hate the eternally shitty human female and know I would have to regularly beat one of almost all of them in order to maintain a functional relationship. My normal heterosexual attraction to women doesn't make you any less of a penis-obsessed, anally prolapsed pervert waste of air.

>>136694259
trannies have a male sexdrive but are fucking their brains with femmlarping, basically.

It's so sick, these freaks should be ashamed to post about it.

>>136694144
Then read about testosterone.
In depth, medical information.
Having more factual knowledge does no harm.

Seriously read it, because this is your life you are dealing with.
Read about low testosterone and hypogonadism.
Short and long term effects.
Study it, don't just skim read.

Consider why I might be telling you about it.
You could read for half an hour every day for a few months, until you really have a fair understanding of it.
It is a serious thing, and soft skin and tits you can play with isn't a valid tradeoff for 20 years of your life gone, in the best case scenario.

Read and then think hard about the future. Then make your own decision.

>>136678868


Trannies are poor men, who were taught to hate themselves by women ( feminazis )

They should be taught, how awsome men are and how men are the far superior and better sex/gender.

I conisdder Trannies as victims of women.
( And a little gay )

>>136694259
Listen bitch. OP made a post. I slit its throat. I make sense. You project and are a hypocrite. You have anal too. Phobes love scat and gay porn. Fuck your animalistic "uses" that they do too. I blew out your period box so you roll around on the floor. Done and done. Stop speaking. Muh obsessed with things he never said! Why make the threads? Sit the fuck down roberta

>>136694534
Idk I'll look into it but I have doctors for this shit I'm pretty sure it's safe. They make me get bone scans and everything.

Thank god the only thing i do is paint my nails

Thats not degenerate right?

Imo it's easier for me to accept men wanting to dress up like women as a fetish than it is for me to respect the whole, "born in the wrong body" nonsense.

>>136690865
lel stuff like this is why i'm non-op master race

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>>136678868
>this
This.

>>136694849
>tranncucks
>master anything
dude

>>136694913

Are they Blavatsky followers?

>>136694625
>phobes
They're called "normal people who see the damage being caused by tolerating faggotry." Your obsession with deviant sex makes you unreasonable before you even open your syphilitic semen sucker to comment on normal human sexuality.

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>>136689136
Get yourself together and get you some real pussy, anon.

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>>136688949
>not all perve trannies
Uh okay.

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>>136678868
You are 100% correct, have a cute pic

>>136695115
Stop repeating yourself. You sound like the serpent after Eve cucked all of mankind. Species mixing bitch
>muh ad homs and appropriateness
Im obsessed with facts. You with projections. Sooth sayery. And lies. Fuck off i have no time for this. Half a man. Noballed half a faggot. Your feminism belittles you. But you're a jewbag so you couldnt possibly be more belittled
>oh please oh jewish isis my fertility oh please womany God with a gf who chops off my dick, please let me know as a "man" if I'm a kike too!

>>136690484
I remember that post. I was in the same thread!

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>>136690332
All gay men, when honest, will admit to bangin' chicks. The fact is that anything (including sex toys and masturbation) outside of regular missionary style sex with opposite sex is an abomination, absolutely unnatural, and disgusting.

>>136695082
Worse.

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>>136689136
>juicy

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>>136695493
>muh
Shariablew in the house.

>>136695634
Grab em. Also no. Destroy all gyms and urinals and grab ass competitions. Limp biscuit games

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>>136685996

More like 10%. Many stealth trannies. They hide in the public sector and academia. Everyone on TV is gender swapped also, to warp your perceptions, so you can't see them.

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>>136690865

>>136695775
>ashterah worship
>serpent seed
>muh muh
K

>>136695493
>waah stop insulting me
kys faggot
>I'm super smart but not you
wow, really made me think, guess AIDS and low white birth rates are cool now, lol fuck women let's stick cocks in each other's asses instead! Faggots cannot be reasoned with, which is why I said "the only cure is lead." There I go repeating myself again. I hope your big brain isn't offended.

>>136678868
If someone says they want to behave or dress differently and maybe have radical surgery because it would make them happier, why does anyone care what they do? Call it whatever you want. It doesn't matter.

>>136694625
>Listen bitch.
Says the actual literal bitch

>OP made a post. I slit its throat.

Self congratulatory boasting is unbecoming and belies a deeper insecurity. Also, weird and unnecessary violent imagery. Red flag

>You project and are a hypocrite. You have anal too. Phobes love scat and gay porn.

Amazing that a mind can bend this way. Very few people become sexually aroused by human shit. I think you're the one project my friend.

>I blew out your period box so you roll around on the floor. Done and done. Stop speaking. Muh obsessed with things he never said! Why make the threads? Sit the fuck down roberta

Weird aggressive homo slang and vernacular. You make these threats because you feel threatened. I don't know anything about you, just the two or three posts I just read, and I can already tell you're mentally unstable. You're a strange bird anon. Good luck with that.

>>136678868
Explain to me the difference between AGP and typical female sexual MO.
Nothing, except there is a man doing it.

>>136695883
Read my first post. Plus about surrogacies. Youll see how we do that. Plus artificial eggs made only from our gender. Not yours youre a dyke. Nobody insulted me. OP lied. I didnt. You came in and gave yourself cramps. Truvada.
>let's stick our dicks in cancerous fungus holes!
I can smell their super gonorrhea from here. No need to take off pants. If a man has one i can see it. Ive never seen or smelled one gross thing on a man
>he likes females
Nice threads on these topics you got there
>women>men
Gone

>>136690331
You're a sick motherfucker.

>>136696054
You satisfy women so they can zombift you with what they dont have. Youre supposed to own them. So i reject em cuz they don't listen. You bow under their feet. Get nagged. Alimony. Nothing in common. They have no agape love. They steal your kids and make you kill yourselves. Enjoy your shoe shopping
>two men can cuck themselves; im not womany or a bitch; you are; you have nothing but test; me nothing but estrogen
Facts are facts. Look em up

I think there's more to it. See, girls who grew up without a father enter puberty earlier, get menstruation earlier thus able to get kids earlier. Basically nature has a way of making fatherless girls attract men earlier, so they can be provided and protected. What also isn't said that the majority of trannies were raised in poor, immigrant, fatherless families and that by tricking men into thinking they're girly, they're provided and protected. Trannies are just greedy manipulators, parasite leeches mimicking girls.

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>>136678868

/pol/ needs to learn about the FtM menace.

>>136695634
http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/07/lesbian-teens-two-seven-times-many-babies-heterosexual-peers/

In this it says gay boys impregnate girls.

>>136689273
If someone still wants to after jacking off, then it's more than a fetish I guess. It's a lifestyle. I agree with you, then they should go for it. Anything else is mental illness that should be named as such.

>>136678868

How do we get the true definition of autogynephilia higher on the google search?

>>136696090
>surrogacy
Degenerate bullshit, exactly what the kikes want, faggots "raising" white children instead of an intact family doing so. Spare your surrogate children your homo obsession with dicks and hating women so much you won't even fuck them. It's not normal or healthy.

>>136697049
calling faggotry a lifestyle dresses it up nice but that doesn't mean trannies aren't mentally ill

>>136697225
honestly dude it sounds like you have more of an obsession with dicks and homosexuality than anyone else here

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>>136697049
>a fetish can never be a lifestyle
sure, chief. sure.

>>136694625
>that rambling schizo talk that sounds like terry davis if he were a gay faggot
wew, all that grids must have done a number on your mental sanity

>>136689136
>>136690164
I agree with Carlos but fapping 3-4 times a week is too much imo. A better goal would be once a week or every two weeks.

Blanchard (the creator of the AGP typology) still states that AGP causes gender dysphoria, which is incurable and should be treated with transition, so his theories really don't suit you guys' agenda.

As well, if you care about the truth, blanchard's conclusions are highly flawed and unsupported even by his own studies. The claim of the causal relationship of AGP fetish > dysphoria > transition is completely unproven. As well, not all female-attracted trannies have AGP feelings, and some male-attracted ones do. This completely contradicts his typology.

The biological model has much more evidence behind it, in which AGP feelings among trannies can be explained by brain incongruence and dysphoria, not the other way round. These feelings tend to only exist *pre-transition* and go away once they start living as a woman. In other words, it's a sexual coping mechanism for gender dysphoria and repression. This also better explains why people report trans feelings from a very early age, but generally don't have sexual AGP feelings until puberty.

here's a more complete argument against blanchard's theories if you are interested
http://www.juliaserano.com/av/Serano-CaseAgainstAutogynephilia.pdf

American college of pediatrics suggested last year that treating transgenderism in children was child abuse.

>>136697314
>says the actual faggot that's on test blockers

>>136678868
>they typically seek sex reassignment after having lived outwardly successful lives as men, often in male-dominated professions such as engineering or computer science.

Hahahaha, well, I mean, being an engineer or a computer scientist is NOT what any thinking person would call an "outwardly successful life"...who wrote this tripe?

>>136678868
I'm male. I always imagine myself being male When I stand in front of mirror, I see myself as male and I always imagine as a male.

>>136697639
Exactly, takes one to know one.

>>136688255
Cuck works because it's a direct attack on someone's masculinity and virtue. They're not just a pussy but they're so weak and emasculated that you could fuck their wives right in front of them and they'd do nothing about it. It's why it doesn't work on women, it's a masculine insult that attacks the very core of masculinity, something that even lefty nu-males value deep down.

>>136697620
>As well, not all female-attracted trannies have AGP feelings, and some male-attracted ones do. This completely contradicts his typology.

> some women are taller than some men
> therefore, there is no difference between male and female heights

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>>136678868
This this this
I've been banging on about this for ages. I've only met one real tranny, I knew "her" for years before someone told me she was born make. That's a real tranny. They're like 0.00000001% of the population really, all these "trans" fuckwits are fakes, fetishists and attention seekers.
Gays are 1 to 1.5% of the population. Lesbians are 0.5%. Any increase in percentage overall is fake.

And the T needs to go from LGB.

>>136697853
The typology literally states that ALL of them fit into one group or another. That there is no cross over.

So it would be the equivalent of saying
>all men are tall
>all women are short

>>136697440
That pic is a (sick) fetish. What I meant was someone who has both identifies in the social and sexual role of the opposite sex. Such individuals have always existed, but they were never put on some virtue signalling pedestal before. I don't agree with presenting fetishes as normal, or normalizing or propagandizing gender bending behaviour, especially for children. But all societies throughout history have seen a small number of people who were better suited adopting roles/behaviour associated with the opposite sex. Think of high test women who are good at building things and working hard manual labor, or feminine men who become motherly/nurses or in the case of some indian tribes people of medicine or spiritual figures.

When a fetish becomes a lifestyle, I agree with you, it's sick and should be condemned and discouraged most harshly, not just for their sake but for the sake of our children and overall society as a whole.

>>136698085

No it doesn't, you retard. Blanchard never said every single tranny fit into one or the other.

>>136690865
Disgusting, depressing, fantastic read. Man truly is totally depraved.

>>136692524
>>136693897
Listen to the Moor, he's right. This information is invaluable not just for you burger, but anyone who is struggling spiritually or mentally.

>>136698254
It's a two type typology. The whole point of the theory is that transsexuals can be divided into two categories, homosexual and non-homosexual, the latter of which are AGP. There is no "not fitting into one or the other".

>>136696968
A few things are missing there. Gays don't have a lot of similarly minded peers, like straight kids do. So they'd be likely to have fewer partner choices. Just the freaky kids hanging about together.
Gays/lesbians have sex with the opposite sex when that's all that's on offer, a bit like straight men going prison-gay. A fuck is a fuck.
That said, lesbians are more likely to fuck guys for a reason that is something we all deal with: women just aren't as up for sex as men. You can go on either a gay or straight hook-up site and have a man to fuck within the hour. Try getting a girl like that!

>>136698236
>But all societies throughout history have seen a small number of people who were better suited adopting roles/behaviour associated with the opposite sex. Think of high test women who are good at building things and working hard manual labor, or feminine men who become motherly/nurses

This is the 1 to 1.5% of men who are homo and the 0.5% of women who are too. They need legal protection but that's it, they're such a tiny group really. There have always been camp men and butch women.

Guess I killed another thread

>>136700196
Don't blame yourself blame the jews

fuck u pol some fetishes are hot and some people enjoy being pretty

Come on, guys, we got to bump this shit and meme it to the masses.

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>>136678868
READ THIS.
It all starts as from watching too much porn which causes the brain to confuse female pleasure for your pleasure.

>>136678868
B-B-BUT MUH REDPILLED TRAPS

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>>136697982
Kill biofags

>>136702322
Actually explains almost everything

>>136700759
if you want to be a girl you'll get fucked like a girl, anon

>>136689136
You might want to consider rooting for any deep psychological issues you may have had with your mom or any female authority figures in your life and address them.

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>>136678868
so basically traps are actually gay or/and preverts? got it.
on a separate note pic related happened today

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This problem is because Transexuals cannot decide what makes a transexual: Gender or Sex

they've invented two terms they could clearly use: Transgender and Transexual, but mix up the two like it doesn't matter which they use

it's dumb. they don't police eachother or anything

i could call myself a transexual and shoot up a school of kids but wouldn't be called out on it by the transgender community, they would continue to hide in their closets, afraid of a larger forum and making their political voices heard


Trannies. Answer this question

WHAT determines a trans? Sex or Gender? Both? Neither?

FUCKING ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>136683859
Not exactly, I don't think.

It's more that they're attracted to women, but want to make themselves the woman they are attracted to.

>>136687624
>cuck was so successful though because i think it hit home against those who fantasise about being a cuckold or actively participate in that lifestyle.

It's also a fantastic insult because the people it's used on can't really use it themselves. Like a liberal wanting to sell out their country to illiterate hordes of third worlders can't really call people that don't want to have their country raped 'cucks', it just doesn't make sense on any level.

That's part of what's important with some of these insults, they only work one way.

>tfw no androgynous pretty boy to take as an anal slave and conquer his boipucci
life is suffering

>>136702322

Nothing confusing about how good it feels to have seven inches of meat massaging your prostate, dressing like a girl just makes it not gay.

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>>136690308
No, fuck off. You retards don't realize that most of the people who hate you don't hate you because you're straight, they hate you because you flaunt your heterosexuality in everyone's face. You "people" are even bigger attention whores than fags. How about you keep your sexual preferences to yourself instead of making them a key personality trait, you disgusting little breeder? Are you that fucking boring? You have absolutely nothing to offer besides the fact that you like to stick it in a vagina? That's what your entire personality revolves around? That's how fucking stupid you are? The whole world caters to straight people. An entire goddamn planet. Why don't you use it? Oh, right, because you're not a special snowflake out there. You don't stand out in a sea of chads, so you have to come here and ruin everything for us just to quench your pathetic thirst for attention. Good threads get bumped off the catalog to make room for your disgusting shit.

Literally the cunts of men. Wholesome queer values can't win fast enough.

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>>136695317
What's this from? GI was not helpful.

>>136702814
>WHAT determines a trans?
gender dysphoria, the state of feeling like you are the wrong sex/gender. I don't think it really matters which word you use because they are both connected and both play into it
like trannies feel bad about their sex characteristics (like having a penis) but they also feel bad about more vague gender stuff
and in transitioning they both change elements of their physical sex (hormones etc.) and gender (presentation, pronouns etc.). So the terms transgender and transsexual both make sense.

>>136704056
Switch to Yandex already, boycott the jewgol.

>>136694625
>needs a speshul flag
>needs a speshul parade
>needs sheshul sex with men
You're speshul needs son, yo brain wired wrong

>>136678868
Put in the DSM.
(Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

>>136704255
The thing is, how are they the wrong gender? When you look at male to female freaks they don't act like common sensible women, they act like damaged attention whores, like borderline insane sex maniacs. The type of people real women judge for causing drama all the type, cheap sluts who don't fit in basically. They're not the wrong gender, they're WRONG in everything. These people are mentally ill.

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OP is a moron.

>>136690332
Umm no, sweetie. I know lots and lots of gay bottoms, and they literally involuntarily retch at the merest thought of a vagina. A few of the more average gay dudes i've known will admit to having experimented with women early on due to pressure from friends and family, but as soon as they could get cock they ditched the bitch and made the switch.

>>136704056
Ah, I figured it out.
Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni.
It looks crap, but I'll still watch it.

>>136690502
If it is literally just clothing with zero significance, then why does wearing it get you hot and bothered? Why not just wear the clothing tailor it to fit your male body, which will not cause any friction between you and society's expectations?

>>136678868
>computer science.
LOL!

At work there is a tomboy who does that kind of work and she loves men.

>>136694849
>tfw orchi no SRS
>tfw young-ish transitioner
living the good life

>>136678868
>"Autogynephilia" is a sex-fueled mental illness made up by Ray Blanchard. Blanchard defines it as "a man’s paraphilic tendency to be sexually aroused by the thought or image of himself as a woman."

shit I think I have this...I always find the idea of me being a female getting drilled by multiple black men very arousing, wanting to see how many bbc I can stuff up my pussy if I had one

>>136705817
what about hung tall turkish boys?

>>136705151
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>>136705902
nope don't care for turks

>>136705902
I'm disappointed someone deemed you worthy of being taught to write in English, cockroach.

>can't get a girlfriend
>wants to fuck a confused tranny-wannabe
Great life you have there.

>>136706091
>calls backup from colonies
>still get btfo
lmao @ ur life
>>136706012
i guess you're too used to them.

>>136705151
yeah, trannies have a higher incidence of mental illness. there are lots of reasons for this though
>more neurodivergent brains to begin with
>years of self-repression and suffering from gender dysphoria
>often this involves escapism, drug use, risky behaviours
>being completely hated by society, judged, ridiculed, shamed, and internalising that into self-hate and low self esteem
>mood swings and such from having a second puberty

it's really no wonder they are fucked up in the head dude. and because of that you can't really expect such people to perfectly act like women even if they are, technically speaking, the wrong gender. they were also raised male so likely have male socialisation, which can't be undone so easily. but calling them mentally ill freaks does nothing to help them become normal members of society, it just adds to the pile.

>>136706155
they tend to have small dicks, or at least all the turkish guys I've been with.... bad at sex too

>>136706587
every plane looks tiny from the grand canyon

>>136706488
>Life is hard so excuse shitty behavior.

Nice 88's cuck.

>>136678868
This. It's all narcissism and masochism

>>136707171
sorry, i forgot not treating the mentally ill like shit is cuckoldry
i'll go beat up some schizophrenics right now to get my red pill points back up

There is a great essay by a (former?) doctor at John Hopkins about how all trannies are autogynephilic insane people

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>>136678868

I've always wondered about this. Up until a couple years ago, to be transsexual meant the goal was "to pass", i.e, become unidentifiable as a man and for all intents and purposes be female.

This goal is counter to a narrative of victim identity though. If society see's you as a woman and treats you accordingly, how exactly are you then identifiable as an oppressed group? More broadly, why would there be a need for a subset "culture" of trannies if the goal was to become inwardly and outwardly female within the context of the existing culture?

Really makes you think.

>>136708179

here we go, this is the guy

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

>>136708005
>mentally ill people
>>136706488
>they are, technically speaking, the wrong gender.

Which is it fag?

You're a cuck because you spout lefty rhetoric about how it's all societies fault and x group has to deal with being completely hated by everyone and the entire world is trying to oppress them and the tranny genocide needs to end and we should putty these poor brave freedom fighters and be ashamed of ourselves and etc etc etc ad nauseum lefty rhetoric.


I hate you a lot more than trannies. Your the type of piece of shit who encourages their self destructive tendencies and coddles them from reality. Then when reality hits them like an 18 wheeler you blame society and never for one second question your own worldview.

>>136708882
>putty

Pity. Autojew cucked me again.

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>>136692802
>They don't know difference (there isn't one) between a neo vagina and a vagina.
>there isn't one

>>136708882
first, i said IF they are the wrong gender. IF
secondly, the two things are not mutually exclusive. The theory is that trans brains are intersex, and this causes gender dysphoria later on when the body becomes more male. Gender dysphoria can be classified as mental illness, but it could also be a basic neurological fact. This is up for debate. "mentally ill" doesn't necessarily mean something is less substantive or based in neurology, or that it can just be waved away with therapy.
Gender dysphoria obviously leads to negative mental health outcomes, that we can agree on.

>You're a cuck because you spout lefty rhetoric about how it's all societies fault and x group has to deal with being completely hated by everyone and blah blah blah
no not really, you're just reducing my arguments to that
there are many factors involved, it's not "all societies fault" that trannies have it rough. I just said that calling them freaks and hating on them doesn't help them become more normal. If that's wrong, i'd like to hear how

>and never for one second question your own worldview
rich coming from a retard /pol/ack whose first response is to strawman me and call me names, i'm perfectly willing to have a discussion
I wouldn't read tranny threads on /pol/ if i wasn't open to questioning my views

>>136681333
Go to bed trump

>>136710453
>I just said that calling them freaks and hating on them doesn't help them

No, you said that calling them mentally ill freaks doesn't help them. The implication being that their mental illness shouldn't be recognized and treated as such.

"Intersex brains" is the stupidest load of propaganda non science bullshit on the planet.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3176412/

It's not even ideologically consistent with your faggot lefty worldview of gender being a spectrum and differences between men and women being social constructs.

>strawman me

Nigger, you're a fucking stereotype of a modern european. You've been duped into believing absurdities and now you intellectualize your rationalities for it. Your own rhetoric isn't even consistent and you're willing to flip flop between possible positions so long as one of them is validated as either correct or ideologically acceptable. I have no respect for you.

>>136678868
The problem with that is that's not the only cause. There are many other risk factors that need to be adressed: feminization of the brain due to exposure to too much estrogens, especially early on in life; possible to connection to genetic "swithes"; extreme dissatisfaction with ones life overall (especially in lack of attention or inability to perform well as a man or failure to adress faults in a healthy manner)and a desire to escape; women having it much easier; and finally, agressive pushes by big pharma any their lobbyists and think tanks to try to convince everyone that they need to change sexes.

>>136678868
This is crazy. The "woman" I no longer speak to fits this description completely.
>extremely masculine, laughable if in make-up, facial features
>was very successful in computer science fields
>history of crossdressing (since high school)
>married several times

Now he's demanding to use restrooms, dress as a woman all the time, thinks he's a woman, etc etc. Recently married again - married a LESBIAN.

>>136711812
>No, you said that calling them mentally ill freaks doesn't help them. The implication being that their mental illness shouldn't be recognized and treated as such.
That wasn't my intention. I don't necessarily have a problem with defining them as mentally ill, like I just explained in my post.

>"Intersex brains" is the stupidest load of propaganda non science bullshit on the planet.
Do you think all of the brain scan studies showing intermediate regions in trannies are bullshit? Can you explain how?

>It's not even ideologically consistent with your faggot lefty worldview of gender being a spectrum and differences between men and women being social constructs.
I don't believe that though, you've just assumed it. Again, nice strawman. I'm not left-wing. I'm anti-feminist and not a social-constructionist.

>Nigger, you're a fucking stereotype of a modern european. You've been duped into believing absurdities and now you intellectualize your rationalities for it.
You've just repeatedly shown that you have very low capability for discourse or rationality by arguing from emotional bias and strawmen rather than actually being open to discussion, so you might consider that this applies more to yourself.

>>136695788
damn so it really is true? megan fox was born a dude? or they're intersex, maybe? or maybe they're just given shots of hormones opposite to their body, so they get a more "transgender" look to them. or maybe naturally the younger generations are more like this, because of plastics and other endocrine distributors. also, digits.

>>136699514
actually what is interesting is that they aren't always homo just because they are a feminine dude or a masculine woman. they may have endocrine imbalances, but it doesn't mean they're all homo.

>>136713478
>maybe naturally the younger generations are more like this, because of plastics and other endocrine distributors. also, digits.
this is what I think. Excess estrogen metabolizes into testosterone.

>>136713071
>explain why trannies have fucked up brains
Because they're mentally ill. Not because they have female brains. Because that's fucking retarded.

>I don't necessarily have a problem with defining them as mentally ill.
Because you're ideologically inconsistent and more concerned about winning an argument than you are about understanding an issue.

>strawman, strawman, strawman!
My bad reddit. I forgot how much you skeptic community cucks sound like lefties.

>>136688748
They get those meds because we see them as sick. If it were viewed as purely cosmetic, a parent refusing their childs' "treatment" wouldn't be abuse. Trannies have convinced everyone that they need this bullshit

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>>136678868 i
In essence this is a fetish that has manifested itself into a mental illness by those that are mentally weak and can't control their sexual urges. I've had this theory for awhile, looks like this research backs it up. I think the other part of it is attention seeking, look at me bullshit. The answer to this problem is fucking therapy and intense introspection, not surgically created frankenroasties. I've done some degenerate sexual stuff, never once have I let it seep into ordinary life. It's really not that hard, keep the freaky shit in the bedroom, and be a rational fucking human being on the streets. When did we start normalizing fetishes, this is fucked. Part of the appeal of sexual fetishes is that they defy the norm, its the excitement is engaging in the taboo. Once that becomes ordinary and accepted where is the fun in it? These xes end of up depressed and an hero because they realize this fact once the damage is already done. We shouldn't be condoning this shit, we should be trying to help these people overcome their mental issues instead of catering to them. This is some assbackwards shit.

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>>136713950
>Because that's fucking retarded.
ok great argument

>Because you're ideologically inconsistent and more concerned about winning an argument than you are about understanding an issue.
nope

>truth and reason? that's for reddit cucks
average current /pol/ user, everyone
nevermind the logical fallacies post that's been stickied for years

>>136714710
>great argument
I linked you to a fucking dot gov about it. The hell more do you want?

>truth and reason
Yeah. Skeptic community cuck for sure.

>>136687624
>>136688255
AGP = autogynephilia, or love of one's self as a woman

Being a hon is about more than not passing. It's also their attitude. They totally lack self-awareness, have over-exaggerated mannerisms, sound like men using a fake little girl voice, dress very badly, have terrible makeup skills, and make everyone cringe.

t. tranny, can't be a hon if you stay in boymode

>>136687624
>>136688255
Forgot to add. The 'hon' part comes from the fact that those cringey trannies always talk to eachother like that. For example:

>"You look great in that ball gown, hon. They didn't clock you as a male, it was just their jealousy."
>"Oh, hon, don't I know what it's like to need some away time from the wife."

>>136715373
>hon

So these are the ones with radioactive /mlp/ vomit hair that sound like Rocky Horror?

>>136715373
yea the "hon" types of weird 40-50 year old trannies that don't pass and act like little girls are more autistic and cringe than bronies. at least plenty of bronies know to stay in the fucking closet...

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>>136689136

I have this problem but with the exception that I am extremely masculine physically. I'm 30 years old, 6ft 4 and I'm built like a brick shithouse, have UK size 12 feet. I can basically rip a phonebook in half. I don't even go to the gym or workout because I avoid trying to get more masculine.

I'm in a relationship with a woman for over 10 years and I've fucked that up royally now. Initially she was indifferent and uninterested in the crossdressing but in the last number of years she's warmed to it and has actually gotten into.

Of late I've been feeling that I have been conditioned into thinking the way I do and I am fighting against it, I want normality, I want to not have a kind of second life.

I've never done anything homosexual in all my time dealing with this, primarily because I am ashamed of how I look but also because as soon as I ejaculate the desire evapourates completely and I feel disgusted with myself for several days until the urges return.

I don't want the complications in my life anymore. I don't want to kill myself or anything like that because its just clothes and make up I've messed around with, I've never stooped any lower than that. It still bothers me hugely though.

Autogynophile here.
Do you honestly think this makes us less powerful?

>>136716320
>makes us less powerful

Implying you have power to begin with. You let admittedly let a fetish dominate your life, pretty far removed from any actual semblance of power if you ask me.

>>136678868
the real redpill is that a majority of actual women are autogynephiles.

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>>136716702
No
You have to own the spooks, not let the spooks own you.

>>136683950
Try using google.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Lawrence

>>136689645
you are supposed to enjoy picking things for your wife or daughter to wear together with her but your brain clearly got something back-to-front somewhere

>>136716102
Originally it was reserved for the older generation. But I think the /mlp/, blue-haired, computer programming beta is a related phenomenon.

>>136716145
And they don't ruin their wife's and kid's life.

>>136689645
You've got a point to an extent. Cross dressing in and of itself isn't gay, as long as you're attracted to women and don't fuck with men. It's fucking weird, but not inherently gay or harmful. Letting your AGP shit seep into daily life is when it becomes an issue in my opinion, keep that shit in the bedroom.

>>136716902
In non tin-foil hat speak please. What the fuck is this gibberish?

>>136678868
Literally know a guy who transitioned while working as an SDE at Microsoft and married to a (ugly) woman.

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>>136717770

>>136690164
Fuck off with your bullshit meme advice.

I have a degree, a trade, a mortgage, two dogs and a car. I cabt fubd a woman who will love me. Do you know why? Because in fucking ugly. When ive gone out with friends at uni i would ALWAYS be the one left alone. I remember getting the bus back by myself and i cried man, i was so drunk i just broke down into tears. I worked my ass off and made the best of what i could.

But your a liar, stop spreading false hooe

>>136714982
>The hell more do you want?
You could explain how it does anything to detract from the brain scan studies and surrounding theory, because I don't see anything that contradicts it. They admit that some areas of the brain are more dimorphic than others, and these are the same parts that differ in transsexuals. They link to some of those studies too simply saying that there is "still some overlap in even the most dimorphic regions" but that doesn't mean that trannies don't still tend towards female typical or intermediate qualities in those regions, and that that couldn't have an effect on gender identity/transsexuality. There is still much to be figured out.

>>136678868
>AUTOGYNEPHILIA IS THE REAL RED PILL
Obviously it is the real pink pill.

>>136717894

Lower your standards maybe?

Every group of friends has the ugly one that is still single. Almost always they have way higher standards than they should at the time. The ugger in my group will only go near slim, highly qualified, athletic blondes while he is a stocky, chubby, balding barman.

>>136718989
lots of men are completely undesirable and not into the prostitution style transactional relationship they are capable of getting

>>136717868
Owning it just further proves the point. It's a proclivity that has seeped into everyday existence, there is no changing that. Owning it merely means one has recognized the fact that they are fucked up and weak. Knowing you're an out of control degenerate doesn't make you any less of a degenerate.

>Have fetish keep it in bedroom= pretty normal
>Have fetish let is dominate life= a severe lack of mental fortitude at best, insanity at worst

>>136718326
Move the goal posts some more reddit. You pulled a bunch of bullshit out of your ass about intersex brains in trannies. I linked you to actual science about how brains aren't sexually dimorphic. Now we're going to sit here and argue and try to find some sort of precise degree of faggot brain that accounts for gender dysmorphia?

The reason this conversation started was because you tried to put one foot into the mental illness position, and one into "they actually are women stuck in male bodies" territory. Well, they ain't fucking women are they pal? They ain't got lady bodies and they ain't got lady brains. They just got fucked up human brains and male bodies. So that makes them mentally ill men doesn't it?

I'm glad I could clear all of that up for you. No need to thank me.

>>136719343
Fuck off Costanza, if you won't lower your standards don't complain. And don't act like you're looking for true love you little weasel.

>>136717347
>But I think the /mlp/, blue-haired, computer programming beta is a related phenomenon.

It seems like a lot of these types are increasing the look at me bullshit factor even further by co=opting the tranny schtick now. A lot of the trans people I have been around have been of that nature, and they give the less fucked up trannies an even worse name.

They don't even try to look like women. They are are all hairy as fuck, wear clown make-up, and run around looking like fucked up weaboo Frankenstines. It's fucking horrifying how little they try to actually look like a woman, which just reinforces the fact that its look at me bullshit with this type of person.

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Can't believe this many idiots fell for it...
>one post by this ID:mJ9b8rf4

>>136719530
what does this have to do with me?
a woman can like a guy for looks or money
if youre at like the 25 percentile of male attractiveness you are physically attractive to LITERALLY ZERO FEMALES
id guess its more like the 40 percentile but that sounds too depressing
so for a lot of guys you get a transactional prostitution style relationship or none
i understand this because ive been both attractive and unattractive due to fatness

>>136717894
/r9k/ the post.

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>>136718326
the brain scan studies are absolute bunk, so you're telling me that for the last several decades feminists and liberals have been campaigning on the "fact" that men and women are the same, but as soon as its fucking convenient they can tell the difference in your fucking brainwaves? give me a fucking break you non scientific literate piece of shit.

>>136719429
>I linked you to actual science about how brains aren't sexually dimorphic.
except it says that there are dimorphic regions, just that overall there is variation and overlap. It doesn't disprove the possibility of gender identity being affected by brain structure, which is what i meant by the intersex brain statement, and which is suggested by many brain studies of transsexuals.

>So that makes them mentally ill men
I don't really have a problem with that statement, it's a reasonable way of putting it. I never claimed that they were "women stuck in men's bodies".

>>136721714
I'm not a feminist or a liberal and I never thought that men and women are the same, and most likely neither do any of the scientists who did those studies, so I don't see what that has to do with anything

>>136722049
Well we more or less agree at this point so have a good day and kys.

>>136678868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vBWmV5sjMA

Reminder, trannies are subhuman

>>136720765
They also use the "women can be tomboys too!" excuse to write-off any male behavior that they have. Not that women can't do masculine things, but the way these trannies do it is distinctly male. They don't vibe female at all.

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>>136703727
>writes over a whole paragraph of pissy ranting complaining of "breeders" and how heteros construct their whole lives around sex
>Gets angry when other people point the same thing out about fags

I can't wait for the Islamic meme to get activated here in the West. Get thrown off a rooftop.

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I just do it to pay the bills. No degree needed and it pays pretty well. Though you have to be smart and motivated, with at least some knowledge of marketing. And you'll never make as much as a woman, which sucks. I can clear a bill or 2 per date easy I have no idea how women, especially white women, can possibly ever have money issues. I would have a fucking empire if i had a vagina.

More pretty young men should take the escort pill

>>136678868
>TFW hate faggots
>TFW would like to be a girl temporarily to look cute/pretty and masturbate before returning to normal life as a superior male

Anyone else know this feel?

>>136687624
>>136688255
Queer alert

>>136689110
It's gayer. Fucking traps is a little gay

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>>136690432
Sauce?

>>136725785
I have a nice girlfriend who buys me clothes and takes me out to eat. Net financial burden of the relationship falls on her (65/35). If you know what you got and don't pick poor dumb bitches, its way better than buying whores.

>>136723706
I don't have an issue with the trannies that actually attempt to look presentable in everyday society, and that don't expect me to accept their life decisions. I can get along with those people just fine, decent people that are just trying to make it in this world. I don't agree with it, but I will take the live and let live approach.
The virtue signaling, attention whore, freakshow types are a different story. They need to to meet the gas chambers as quickly as possible, because that shit is cancer. They make everyone in the human species look like shit.
The tomboy explanation is just code for "I'm a lazy degenerate." Plus is its like a train wreck, you can't look away, a fact they are very aware of, more attention seeking bullshit.

>>136723990
>>>leddit.com/AteThePasta

Oh shit I forgot about Autogynephilia. Isn't it where you love yourself/female version of yourself, not so much in a NPD way but in a fetishistic way?

>>136705293
Why would you do that to yourself?

>>136729364
Fun things are fun.