Post your most convincing argument against gay marriage. The

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>>136673734
>nothing about (((them)))

>>136673734
It shouldn't be legal because it's just too hot. The feeling of pushing your helmet into another man's anus is like heroin. It feels too good.

>>136673734
You're not going to argue normies out of a completely emotional stance.

>>136673734
Co-opting "marriage" in a traditional sense angers religious groups and ultimately just makes people more homophobic. Just let gays have civil unions without outright calling it "marriage" in order to minimize conflict.

>>136673805
>so anon you're voting yes for gay marriage right?
>uh no
>wtf why not you bigot?
>well let me tell you about the jews

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>>136673734
Something can probably be found here.

https://archive.fo/xzRhm

>>136673734
Stop talking about minority politics. The gays will litteraly fuck themselves to death **what is aids**

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>>136673734
but until my two dads can tie the knot i'll be a bastard

>>136673734
A bullet to the skull.

35% of homosexual men will have some incontinence.

Also, leakage may occur and men will have to wear something akin to menstrul pads for their butts.

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>>136673734

Literally nothing wrong or right about Gay marriage from a materialistic standpoint, as long as the legislation doesn't force any person or group into participating in them. And since a materialistc approach is the only way to convince "normies", you've already lost.

Gay adoption and allowing gays to have children is another matter entirely. in the US homosexuals make up about 3% of the population and are 40% of the total number of pedophiles. Allowing gays to adopt is like playing Russian roulette with a child's health a wellbeing compared to non-gays.

And then there's data regarding lack of fathers (such as allowing lesbians to have boy children) and other matters (pic related).

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>>136673734
Because gayness is temptation and temptation is hedonism. The temptation of male to male sex is the strongest temptation so to resist it is to show true strengtg

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>>136673734
its gay

>>136674057
This.
But also go further and convert all marriages to civil unions, leaving marriage as an essentially meaningless ceremony, only relevant to the religious.
This fixes the issue for everyone because religious organizations could choose who to marry with no risk of being sued.

>>136673734
there isn't one

How about turning marriage back into a solely religious ceremony? There is literally no reason for the government to be involved at all.

>>136674011
Hot af. And true too. Never gets boring. Restricts when you dont want it to. Restricts even more when you do

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>>136674226
>/threads on post

>>136673734
>he doesn't want muh genesis 9:14

>>136673734
Other peoples suffering is not a good guide for policy. Let the faggots cry themselves to death

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>>136673734
Marriage is a religious institution designed to provide the stability and legitimacy required to raise healthy children. Gay marriage doesn't make sense because there are no butt babies.

Gay marriage isn't about marriage, they could have had everything they wanted with civil unions. It's fags flexing their political muscle, a power move, they ruin traditional institutions just because they can. The slippery slope is real, now it's trannies and kids, they will never be happy and stop making new demands until normies tell them to fuck off.

>>136673734
Don't argue against it. Argue it doesn't do enough - that someone will always be left out.

Argue for the removal of all government sanctioned marriage - nobody can counter - ever.

I've been in a room with 70-90% faggots who were pissed when I started speaking, but by the end were silent, because they knew they were beaten, and I'd taken both the logical and emotional high ground away from them.

Here is a recent kike-book post I made to the same effect:

"Holy god am I sick of hearing about gay marriage in Australia.

Everyone throwing tantrums over it all over the place, the government should respond accordingly, if they can't play nice then nobody gets to play at all - remove all government sanctioned marriage altogether, for good.

Then everyone is equal and they can all shut the hell up about it.

You Christian and want a regular heterosexual marriage? Get it recognised by your church

You multi-gendered other-kin and want to marry a Dyson Hand-Held vacuum cleaner? Get your psychiatrist to recognise your marriage.

Get your mum to recognise it, who gives a crap - just stop trying to force your shit on everyone else who doesn't want it, that's the god-damn definition of tyranny."

>>136674639
Thanks m8, I lost this one ages ago. Toxoplasma is some scary shit.

>>136674738
w8 what other guide for policy is there?

>>136674749
Mr Hankey over here. Surrogacies. New eggs we're making. All the bigger diseases are gone now. I know some with kids apparently they're all breeding now. More than us. The kids seem to be normal or enjoy it like any other famiglia

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>>136674738
i can basically taste the grease behind this post

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>>136674011
Can third this. However let us remember that the only purpose of the institution of marriage since it's foundation with all of society has been to reproduce. We must end homosexual propaganda in the mainstream and let those destined for it find it in between-the-lines writing.

>>136674894
They're both so kyoot :3

>>136674226
T.R.U.V.A.D.A.. Literally prevents and kills the aids, dead. How come no gays get limp wearing condoms but you do? Is that why you never wear em? Oh well. Truvada doesn't work on women

>>136674615
Tax reasons

>>136674738
Stop crying

>>136673734
Marriage is a religious institution, and governments cannot dictate religious doctrine.

>>136675080
That isn't a reason. It's just an arbitrary benefit that exists right now. Everyone or no one could have it just as easily.

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>>136674057
Wrong. Relationships between two men are not secret but sacred. And ought to be protected from any on-looking by the mass. Keep it secret. Keep it safe.

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No argument against it or age consent for that matter.

>>136674639
That's a good one, thanks

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>>136674011
this

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>>136673734
Read this blog post: http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com.au/2010/08/some-thoughts-on-prop-8-decision.html?m=1

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>>136674881
Fags will raise weak, confused adopted faggots that will end up becoming massive fuck ups. Hippy boomers tried non-traditional parenting methods before you, it almost always turned into disaster. Please, be a degenerate all you want but let the breeders handle the family thing.

>>136675181
marriage is a civil institution in australia. religious views are irrelevant

>>136675020
Lots of rage my dude.

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I am pro gay marriage so i can sell my citizenship to male foreigners as well now. Men generally have more money so it's going to increase the profit i make.
Australian citizenship going to $100,000AUD. Get your citizenship's!
Also i can just fake marry my friend for tax cuts.

>>136675080
Literally no one thinks of homos when it comes to tax season you nit. Get over it.

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>>136675080
Tax breaks for married couple were supposed to help them make kids. They serve no other practical or moral purpose.

I have to admit, the one time I was actually challenged to come up with arguments I had a rather tough time. I ultimately pulled statistics out of my ass and told the guy that if fags are allowed to marry (even just legally) they are also allowed to adopt kids and that a significant enough percentage of them are pedos. It worked well enough.

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>>136673734

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/romania-government-votes-change-definition-family-order-ban-sex-marriage/#gs.k1pz_04

Proud of my country

>>136675344
But that's, just like, your opinion, man

>>136673734
Women are property. Men are not. Therefore a man can only marry a woman. QED.

>>136675080
Two fathers, dare I say, are an advantage. Depend on the couple involved I suppose.

>>136675577
We have seen the outcome the other anon has spoke about for 50 years they're called liberals.

>>136675557
Nice, but would be better if you built them up. Give them a standard idiot. You're not xlever, you're gone to waste.

>>136673734
religion is the best anti-gay argument for normies

>>136673734
It's cultural appropriation.

Marriage is a word describing a religious ceremony.

We don't call eating pizza shapes 'having communion'

We don't call having a bath 'a baptism'

Each of these religious ceremonies has specific rules in their culture.

LGB communities can already get civil unions, that give them all of the rights of a married couple, protected by anti discrimination laws.

The only reason (((they))) want to push LGB 'marriages' is to undermine the rights of Christians to have their own unique culture.

>>136675512
Gay people can adopt like in pic related

>>136676232
Tl:Dr?

It's cultural appropriation.

It's easy to confuse SJW bitches using this arguement.

>>136673734
think about the children

>>136673734
Because the law treats men and women differently, it is important to fully examine whether or not same-sex marriage will create new loopholes thanks to pre-existing legislation that gives special rights to married couples.

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Based Tones was onto a winner today. Fag marriage has become a proxy war for the progressive agenda, political correctness and the rest. The more normies realise this, the more will shift to a NO vote

>>136676462
This one works every time. Especially when I combine it with polygamy and explain how many tax loopholes it opens up.

What is 'gay marriage'? are we talking about a union between to people that; co-habitat, share income, are each others guardians in case of medical emergencies and widower in case of death? cause if we are just talking legal paper work then nothing is wrong.

On the other hand if you are talking about the type of ceremonial marriage which involves religious and cultural symbols then no. I don't think 2 men should wear wedding bands. it undermines the cultural and historical significance. I also don't think adolescent graduation should be a thing like "graduation kindergarten" you can celebrate but calling it graduation with caps and gowns undermines and parodies the real ones.

Even openly gay societies were touchy on the subject you can skim through ancient roman articles and see that gay marriage happened but was looked down upon because it was not a reproductive union thus not helpful. You could argue that having kids is not important and not part of marriage but then the counter could be the tax deductions can be removed. such dedications act as incentive to have families.

It doesn't matter how many philosophy classes you make college students take society runs on structured rules. some are simple like 'don't grab other people' or 'mimickery is frowned upon' some rules nor longer have value but others help keep a smooth and growing society. I don't see how traditional style gay marriage helps society as a whole

tl;dr gay marriage can be nothing more then a parody, civil unions are fine

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webm related is what happens if we legalise gay marriage

Who cares? Western "christianity" is a joke, whether it's in north america, europe or australia. Yes, they will "marry" gays and also openly support many other things that are against what western (catholic, protestant) religion is meant to be. This is because westerners are obsessed with placating any little minority they can think of.

>>136673734
What's the purpose of sex?
>Because it's fun
What's the purpose of enjoyment?
>I dunno, outside of following doctrine, feels nice to sleep, eat well and be in relationships with strong handsome men/busty women, so it would update seem the purpose of satisfaction is internal reward for fulfilling biological needs...?
...
. . .

>>136676879
>On the other hand if you are talking about the type of ceremonial marriage which involves religious and cultural symbols then no. I don't think 2 men should wear wedding bands. it undermines the cultural and historical significance

This shitty argument is why i'm voting yes

>>136677415
im also voting yes, and i hope polygamous marriage becomes legal too :^)

>>136673734
Heterosexuals actually have sex.
Homosexuals can't.

>>136673734
I'll say this. What different does it make? Marriage has been going downhill ever since King Henry VIII begged the Pope to divorce his wife of 20 years, just to get some 20 year old mushu another half a dozen times, starting up his own church because he broke the sacrament of marriage.
De facto couples have equal standing legally as do married couples.
Marriage is going extinct as it is.
Wait until they pass marriage and the gays driving the public insane with pride parades and 24 hour rolling coverage in the media and they will realise the error of their ways. Society will collapse under the weight of its own success and 'progress' soon enough. Then we can start anew.

>>136677415
It's a very valid argument, gay marriage is a joke on traditional institutions that dilutes its meaning and power as a symbol/norm. What next, marrying your pet?

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I will tolerate it, but I'm not going to support it.


Also, if they get this, they will fight for more new laws to be passed they don't need.

>>136673734
The fact that marriage in general is retarded

>>136674057
>>136674607
Hell is for ever!

>>136677619
>Society will collapse under the weight of its own success and 'progress' soon enough. Then we can start anew.
And who will be starting it? Cloppers? Trannies? Inbred trash after a couple of generations of single mothers having kids from different dads in the same community?

>>136677868
There are still normal people out there anon

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>>136677675
We will be ther when there is no hope.
There is no escaping the day of the rope.

Homosexuality goes against the very nature of the proliferation of life. It is 'bad' at a very fundamental and universal level. If everyone became homosexual at the same time, we would no longer be a viable species. What other ideology can lead to the extinction of the entire human race in just a few generations? TLDR; It's super bad.

>>136673734
Do faggots even realize what marriage is?
Marriage is a contract between man and a woman to make and raise children.

Marriage was almost never about love(even tho it is recomended), you can love who ever you like and don't need marriage for it...
I don't know at what point did people think marriage is about "love".
It's even more hypocritical when considering how faggots demand to have christian marrige, when christianity explicitly prohibits homosexuality and in bible it even sais christian marrige is about MAN AND WOMAN.
It defeats the purpose of marriage to satisfy your own selfish attention.
It's the same shit like demanding private owners to bake cakes for fags...

Faggots can join couple civil union but why the fuck marrige? unless they want to adopt nigger children and rise them?
You fags are slowly destroying yourself with all the authoritarian demanding shit and then acting like a complete degenerate like far-conservatives say you are.

>>136673734
Also don't forget: we will become even bigger targets for ISISand muzzle inspired terror attacks. Aussies are so complacent though, this argument would probably go over most of their heads.

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This country is a feeding trough, the only way to win is to not play. Emigrate

>>136679136
Marriage has nothing to do with raising kids. That's why there's a whole body of law that deals with child custody, child welfare etc. Marriage law doesn't touch on reproduction, paternity/maternity, children in any way.

And contract law, as a matter of constitutional rights, Founder's debate (Federalist papers), western common law and judicial precedent holds equality between consenting parties as a paramount and foundational matter.

TL;DR: you're stupid and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>136677320
Literally hedonism

>>136679219
I thought it would piss them off. Which is, Idk, good or bad.

>>136679475
What?

>>136673734
its being pushed on the radio and TV 24/7. every news updates on the radio. marriage is a concept based on the bible. bible dont like gays

>>136679136
How sad empty deluded and delusional is your life? Try and go outside one day this week. Get some sun on your skin basement boy

Why do people give a shit either way?

Why do homos want to participate in a ceremony based on retarded fairytales? Civil ceremony for legal reasons, sure. But if you need religion to validate your love then that's pretty gay.

Why do moralists give a shit what two strangers do to or how they feel about eachother? How is it possibly affecting them or their community? Why are they so precious that they get triggered by something that's literally none of their business.

Meanwhile, there's rampant corporatism, media conglomerates, environmental destruction, wahhabism etc genuinely fucking shit up for everybody.

It's strange how people rarely get worked up about the important stuff but when it comes to genuinely inconsequential shit pertaining to fags and fairytales, people lose their minds. It's as if this divisiveness conveniences certain groups...

>>136680103
>Why do moralists give a shit what two strangers do to or how they feel about eachother?
Because I don't want my kids being molested by pedorasts and being told that I'm a bigot for not accepting them

>>136680385
A paedophile is a paedophile and a homosexual is a homosexual. They are distinct traits.

>>136680922
>They are distinct traits.
but not mutually exclusive.

>>136679627
ofcouese it is a leaf...
only goal of marriage is to raise kids you spoiled bitch,you are part of the problem.

>>136681036
Nor are heterosexuality and paedophilia.

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>>136679627
Cheese and whiskers. The mental gymnastics you have to go through to try to understand this post instead of admitting the obvious. Marriage has a lot to do with children, compadre.

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>>136673734
It's a tax scam. Marriage is for procreational purposes (i.e. making children and raising them). For this purpose, the state gives you a tax respite if you register (marry legally).
Faggots don't reproduce, so they don't need the financial benefits of marriage.

>>136681474
Adoption bro

>>136674929
Show ur boipucci degenerate you are my slave you exist only to satisfy me u faggot

>>136679627
Ur dumb

>>136681474
Should infertile hetero couples be banned from marriage? What about certain groups who are more fertile than others?

>>136681545
Mentally ill people don't get to adopt either.

>>136681601
If you want to introduce a fertility check before getting the documents, sure go ahead. It wont get faggots closer to tax scamming though.

>>136673734
Marriage comes from religion, and government.
In the first case, it's a tradition of monogamy, which is against human nature, which is being preserved by religious groups first of all, and other people with similar cultural and religious roots. Christianity (as well as islam) is against gay marriages.

Government need people to marry so they create a family and raise children which will later grow up to be valuable taxpayers, so government may provide some bonuses to young families, like giving them some money for every child born. Gay people don't breed, there is no reason of them to marry from this point of view.

Roots of marriage are in religion, as as bible says - "Marriage is a sacred vow between a man and woman". So "sacred vow" won't be a marriage if it's between a man and another man.

>>136681696
And the hyperfertile "newcomers"?

>>136675344
This x1000. I could care less if two consenting adults want to sodomize one-another and call their relationship a marriage, but raising a kid is where I draw the line.

>>136673734
You don't deserve the privileged of marriage if you are not willing to put up with the opposite sex.

>>136675344
>Hippy boomers tried non-traditional parenting methods before you, it almost always turned into disaster

Sources?

I enjoy redpilling hippies.

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>Post your most convincing argument against gay marriage.
It is pure degeneracy.

The problem is that you will accept that answer but this is the issue with allowing an degeneracy to exist and/or be accepted en masse. Once you no longer accept the argument that LGBT+/Gay Marriage is degenerate thus it is wrong and bad of society you will also no longer accept the argument that pedophilia for example is wrong or bad.

>You: Whats wrong with gay marriage.
>Me: It is degenerate.
>You: That argument is no longer accepted amongst the degenerates.
>Me: Of course the degenerates do not want to accept the fact they are degenerates. Do these degenerates think pedophilia is degenerate?
>You: The LGBT+ likely do not consider pedophilia degenerate.
>Me: So how are you expecting to argue against people who no longer consider degeneracy degenerate? You can not win such an argument.
>You: How do you win?
>Me: You label them what they are and allow society to make its decision as to weather they want to accept degenerates and the degeneracy on themselves and their children.
>You: But society does not care.
>Me: Then you must allow their degeneracy to drive them to their ultimate doom. Expose them for the degenerates they are and capitalize that exposure at every opportunity.

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there's nothing wrong with gay marriage

the only people against it are muslim terrorist sympathizers and retarded evangelicals who worship a jew

abrahamic religion is a cancer

>>136681601
outliers don't mean the concept is bunk

>>136679475
YO tell me right FUCKING NOW where the fuck can i get a cap with "CUNT" in all caps underneath the bill like that? im gonna flash it to all the fuckin CUNTs i meat irl

>>136674789
underrated post

>>136682182
Jesus never existed.

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>>136674849
Anti-faggot Pragmatism

>>136681474

>It's a tax scam

A tax scam is shitting out 4 kids to pay for your phone bill.

>>136682883
All I see is a pair of handsome alpha males...

>>136682014
I'm talking about marriage, not sandniggers with goat std's. Those should be sent to the bottom of the sea.

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>>136675186
It's not arbitrary just because you say it's arbitrary, you half-brained degenerate. The reason heterosexuals were historically given tax breaks is because the offspring they would almost certainly produce would grow to become contributing members of the same society so it would inevitably be a net gain for the government/people. That's the historical basis for marriage tax breaks. It only became what you call "arbitrary" when gays whined and bitched and wormed their way into the system and fucked it up. Now, given that gays (most of them) don't even want to adopt and just want to fuck each other in the ass or, even worse, adopt and indoctrinate malleable children into their cult of faggotry, it's an overall net drain on society where they are taking without contributing back. There's no logical reason for them to get tax breaks for sticking their dicks in each others' ass and spreading aids.
You'll notice an overriding theme with these retards that goes along the lines of "The entire system (and everyone else) has to change for me, a tiny minority of the population, although I try at every turn to tear down and destroy that very same system (and it's people) and replace it with degenerate behavior."

>>136673734
>Post your most convincing argument against rain
>Post your most convincing argument against gravity
>Post your most convincing argument against spiders
>Post your most convincing argument against air
>Post your most convincing argument against stars
>Post your most convincing argument against cars

the whole life has no sence, do what you want, we all will die at the end.

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>>136682259

make your own, bro

>>136683091
That is a social security fraud. Should be abolished anyway.

>>136677230
so what are we waiting for?

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>>136673734
Its easy! just gas all the kikes! Problem goes away on its own.

>>136683166
Take your adolescent nihilism back to the rick and Morty page on redit.

>>136681358

>Marriage has a lot to do with children, compadre.

Used to.

Doesn't anymore, or divorce rates wouldn't be fucking nutso.

>>136678460
XD day of the rope guys it's totally gonna happen XDDD beware degenerates

You forgot your kekistani flag when you made that steamy shitpost

>>136677619
Wife of 20 years who had hit menopause with no fucking make heir. He was fine dying with the first wife until it meant having no fucking legacy and likely leave the country in civil war upon his death. Don't act like he was some old creeper just looking for ass.

>>136673734
Marriage exists so that a man and woman can live in financial stability and support each other and their children. Two fags or dikes marrying makes no sense and only deteriorates the concept of marriage.

Best way to stop is ignoring or killing fags

>>136674529
Low effort

>>136683556
That's what I believe but if i say that to a normie they will laugh at me since 99% of people a divorced and I'm forever alone.

>>136683179
>make your own

that doenst take any fuckin balls, its gotta be embroidered on there, ill fight any fuckin cunt that tries to take me cunt hat

>>136684866
99% of people are divorced thank to feminism and kikes
divorce was almost non-existent 50 years ago

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>>136684882

>ill fight any fuckin cunt that tries to take me cunt ha

>>136684942
Divorce was non-existent 50 years ago because it was harder to divorce, not because marriage was happier. Women and Men were often stuck in unhappy marriages that they couldn't get out of because of the nuances and difficulties in undergoing a divorce. New legislature changed the conditions and simplified divorce, allowing people to exit bad marriages.

>>136685243
Their hapiness isn't important/

Financial stability and children not being raised by single parents in a broken home is important.

marriage was invented to preserve the children's and the woman's rights

since there are no woman and children in gay marriage there is no need for marriage

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>>136685243
Imagine my shock. People were able to put up with shit to achieve a greater goal like raising healthy kids instead of focusing on their own butthole and holding whatever feels good as a virtue. We're becoming weak and increasingly sterile as a people; that's hardly progress.

>>136673734
Why are we debating about gay marriage exactly? The argument should be about whether homosexuality should be legal or not. Discussing gay marriage is already shifting the goalposts. It already gives sodomite "relationships" unearned legitimacy. Arguing about gay marriage is already admitting defeat on this issue.

>>136685942
Wanna fuck my penis via a double ended onahole?
It's cute when the tips kiss ^~^

>>136685243
This. No fault divorce was a mistake. It should be like back when my great-grandmother had to go to the police and prove that my great-grandfather was beating her or get proof that your wife is a whore who is fucking guys all across town and having a private eye show the pictures in court and shaming that slut.

>>136686146
t. Sexist shitlord

>>136686361
How is that sexist? A woman has every right to catch her husband cheating too. All I'm saying is that a legal contract should have tough provisions before being dissolved.

>>136673734
Fuck off cunt. It's none of your business.

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>>136686479
>Gay marriage?! It's none of the government's business! Don't ask questions!
>Gender Reassignment surgery?! I demand the government pay for it! Don't ask questions!
Hmmm. There's a common theme with this community of minorities. Can you guess what it is?

>tfw no bf

>>136673734
The divorce rates in Lesbian marriages is over 80%.
Holland has had gay marriage for nearly twenty years. Less than 10% of the gay community have taken it up, so the majority of gays don't want it. The gay community in Holland toaday feels just as marginalised by the mainstream as they did before gay marriage. They don't report any increases in tolerance or acceptance as a result of same sex marriage.