Nuclear powered attack aircraft carriers are necessary

penis

I just want nuclear powered cars so I don't have to buy gas anymore.

>>136671612

>Spanish carrier

>31 F-35Bs

Maybe half that at a push.

Nuclear isn't needed, neither are carriers unless you're doing force projection. Would would Europe even do with carriers? Spend it on a space corps.

Calm down Deitmar, such things need not concern you anymore.

>>136671958
Bomb the middle east

>>136671612
The US should leave NATO and ally with Russia and Britain to rape Berlin again.

>>136671612
HOLY FUCK THIS GUY IS RIGHT
THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX NEEDS TO PUMP OUT A BUNCH MORE OVERPRICED OVERBUILT OVERSIZED OVERBUDGET BOATS NO COUNTRY ACTUALLLY NEEDS
FUCKIN A THE WAR MACHINE NEEDS TO CRANK SHIT UP
BANKS CORPORATIONS AND STOCKHOLDERS NEED THEM SHEKELS BOYS
GET OUT THERE AND SPREAD THE WORD
CONTACT POLITICIANS
GET THEM TO WASTE I MEAN SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS
WHAT A GREAT IDEA OP
GREAT THREAD
FUCK YAH
WAR IS INEVITABLE IN EUROPE SO AIR CRAFT CARRIERS BEST USED FOR INVADING OTHER COUNTRIES IS A GREAT IDEA FOR DEFENSE OF A CONTINENT

Also EU Nuclear carrier group?

EU?

Nice bait, the EU will never have an army or a carrier group.

>>136671958
>Nuclear isn't needed, neither are carriers unless you're doing force projection.
Nuclear carriers are absolutely necessary. The French carrier was the only European carrier regularly taking part in Indian ocean ops against the Taliban together with US forces. Conventionally powered carriers can't even get there.

>krauts caring about the protection of Europe
>meanwhile literally spearhead the invasion of Europe by subhuman savages

why do we allow krauts to live?

>>136672179

>Conventionally powered carriers can't even get there

shiggy diggy

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>>136672125
this

>>136672212
This

>>136671612
Europe's safety was lost when Germany allowed in 3 million niggers within 6 months.

Fuck off and kill yourself.

>>136671612
The EU will need a real military. The more it keeps pushing against the US, especially without member nations paying their dues, the less we will do the EU's bidding.

Isn't this piece of shit carrier stuck in port for repairs for a year or so?

>>136672889
>allowed in 3 million niggers within 6 months.
WRONG

Greece let in 1.5 million illegals over 2yrs and Italy 600,000 Africans and Bangladeshis over 4yrs - most of the Africans are stuck in Italy or move on to France and the UK. Hardly any go to Germany as it is to cold there.

>>136671612
So you need a huge shit to move two planes on the other side of the Mediterranean? Planes that usually fly from Sicily and Sardinia which are closer to the other side of the Mediterranean than any navy can be?

>>136671612
>no ramp
Shit tier carrier

>>136671612
>a german with a tiny dick who has to compensate
we have tried 7 times to build a carrier, not one was ever finished.
Germany is not a naval power. Let the nations that actually have a large coastline defend their own waters. I dont get it why germany always has to have its nose in things that are not our bussiness. First this joke of a country should build a real army that is actually capable of defending the border
also what would the current EU even do with carriers besides fishing migrants out of the mediterranean? Whatever they would do, it would not be in your interest.

>>136671612
>We need at least 5 or 6.
You gonna build them with all that that brown power your importing? You really want to go to war in boats built by them?

>>136671612
hey hans, why don't you built your own? :)

>>136673207
>as it is to cold there.
As if they care. They can leave the radiator on all day because the average Hans is paying power bills for Africans too.

The french are buying one of the two new ones the UK are building.

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>>136672212
Germany is leading Europe, of course we care.

>>136671772

>he doesn't know how much a rod of fissile material costs

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>>136671612

>protection of Europe

so the will be sinking refugee boats in the mediterranean?

no?

So you want more weapons and power for the political cunts destroying Europe, while reeeing about the protection of Europe

What did I expect from a kraut anyway

>>136673288
>we have tried 7 times to build a carrier, not one was ever finished.
BS

We never really tried. 2 of these "tries" were Italian non-completed carriers. 1 never left the design stage. 1 was in 1918, so does not count. Leaving us with 3-4 actually attempted conversions/new-builts in 1942 and 1943, all of which were halted for good reason.

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>>136673207
Shut the fuck up you god damn cuck.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/765919/Angela-Merkel-Germany-European-Migrant-Crisis-12-million

>>136673339
Leading it into a grave lmao

>>136671958

>unless you're doing force projection
It's what all the cool countries are doing. Mine's gonna get stuck in a nuclear war with a tiny Asian country that's friends with a really big Asian country with more nukes. We're may very well sustain massive infrastructure damage, and someone needs to carry the fucking torch. Might as well be the EU.

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>>136673327
>They can leave the radiator on all day because the average Hans is paying power bills for Africans too.
The Africans stay in Italy or go to France or the UK, not Germany. Look it up.

>>136673335
>The french are buying one of the two new ones the UK are building.
No, they are not.

>>136671612
you guys don't have the skill or money to do it. not even the work ethic.

you could try negotiating a deal with the US where they build the carriers, then lease them to you with a nuclear crew, maybe. But you'll never be able to pay your imported shitskins their gibs and the US for supercarriers at the same time.

>>136673462
>Express
>source
Ok, there, lad. You can go back to bed.

>>136673491
The EU will only use the carriers to ferry more rape into Europe, they'll use the soldiers to crush any nationalists that want the rapefugees stopped and they'll censor everything with Germany's "Ministry of Truth".

Fuck that, I don't want and my government does not want an EU army on our doorstep with the potential to cause us problems, it's not happening.

>>136673455
It's not happening so dream on Hans Abdul bin Rahman Noodles al Heinz Barbecue Sauce.

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>>136673654
>I can't handle facts or quotes from my own dear leader Merkel

>You can go back to bed.
I'd say the same to you if it wasn't occupied with Jamal and your wife.

>>136673607
>you guys don't have the skill or money to do it.
>400 billion annual trade surplus
>Number 1 worldwide in high tech manufacturing

Ok there, mate. Germany is probably the only country in the whole world which can efficiently build a nuclear aircraft carrier that works.

>>136671612
>the eu needs its own army
lol fuck off globalishits

>>136673601
In 2011 they bought into one of the carriers and will share it because of their defense cuts and the fact their current carrier is broken and old.

>>136673748
Abdul, you're not getting an army, it's not happening.

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>>136673727
80% of Pakis in Europe live in England. 75% of Somalis and Nigerians. etc.

We may have Turks, Kurds and Syrians, but you got your Commonwealth black bulls and Pakis. There is a reason why your gov doesn't talk about the real figures of migration to you.

>>136671612
Maintenanceis a waste of money. Just have train troops so you have enough when the shit hits the fan and have enough factories that can pump out war machines if needed.

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>>136673902
>Criticises me for posting the Express
>Posts the Metro
Here's some real stats.

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>>136673866
>Abdul, you're not getting an army, it's not happening.
We already got our EU army. You are so cucked, you will be part of our EU army even after brexit!

>>136671612
Can Europe even afford 5 or 6 carriers? They'll just end up being 5 or 6 derelict rapefugee hovels.

>>136671612
It would be far more dramatic than the stupid fat Yankee carriers with their brass band and marching girls doing stars and stripes in a loop on deck, You Krauts could get a huge Oompah band and a hundred or so slap dancers in lederhosen, that's pretty much all carriers are good for.

>>136673455
>we didnt really want to build a carrier so it doesnt count
cry some more, then get over the fact that we lost the war.
Look around your country, or even europe. Right now a fucking aircraft carrier is not very high on our list of priorities. Before it even can be considered to build one we would need to make sure that the people in command are actually reasonable human beings, which the current heads of europe are not.

>>136674029
"No".

We've been one of the only people in the EU actively blocking your army plans. So save your shit.

>UK Slated to lead
I don't think you know what that opinion piece means..... Don't post it again.

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>>136674022
>Here's some real stats.
>real stats
>2011

Please. Your Muslim population has nearly exceeded 4 million already, while our Turkish population is falling. Not to mention the fact that your stats conveniently say in a footnote that you actually do not count Muslims!

--------
Islam is the second largest religion in the United Kingdom, with results from the United Kingdom Census 2011 giving the UK Muslim population in 2011 as 2,786,635, 4.4% of the total population.[3] The vast majority of Muslims in the United Kingdom live in England: 2,660,116 (5.02% of the population). 76,737 Muslims live in Scotland (1.45%), 45,950 in Wales (1.50%), and 3,832 in Northern Ireland (0.21%).[4][5][6]

In 2014 the total population of Muslims in Great Britain was estimated to have increased to 3,114,992, of which about half (1,554,022) were born overseas.[1] Across England and Wales the Muslim population numbered 3,047,000 (97.8% of all UK Muslims) or 5.4% of the total population.

It is estimated that by 2020, the number of UK Muslims will exceed 4 million.

>>136671612
don't we get a couple ships and carriers from bongs for brexit?

>>136674283
It is not an opinion piece. There are countless EU battlegroup, the UK isn't pulling out of them. It wants to remain subject to EU control on all fronts including the military.

>>136674032
>Can Europe even afford 5 or 6 carriers?
USA: trade deficit of 800 billion a year. EU: trade surplus

USA can afford the carriers! EU is poor!

Dude, you should hear yourself.

>>136671726
china also plans to build nuclear powered penis

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>>136673207
Stop cuxplaining, you cuck.

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>>136674416
>you should hear yourself
same for you

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>>136673748
you really don't have a clue on what it takes to build and operate one. German workers are a joke, we get your faggot engineers over here in the states from those gay international corporations, and they do nothing but embarrass themselves and take vacation days.

Where's your shipyard equipped to put the thing together? Where are you going to get the personnel to operate the equipment without nuclear catastrophe? You simply have no idea the level of pre-checks required just to get the thing rolling. American spend the greater half of the last century streamlining our entire country and infrastructure for military. Now look at the spending. It's completely out of your reach.

Once you get it built and a crew, then what? You could buy the aircraft compatible with a CATOBOR, but you just going to pull pilots ready to land on supercarriers out of thin air?

It would be many decades before you cucks could get it all together. You don't have the skill or dedication for that.
>they'll just end up being 5 or 6 derelict rapefugee hovels

suddenly europe will realize it can't give out free health care and simultaneously build and man nuclear aircraft carriers.

>>136671612
THE ONLY THING THE EU NEEDS CARRIERS FOR IS TO SINK MIGRANT SHIPS

>>136675110
we could if our debt was as big as yours

>>136675294
we wouldnt even need to sink them, we just need to stop rescuing them. Mother nature and natural selection will do the rest
>lets go five times over capacity in an inflatable boat and try to cross the mediterranean
>doctors, engineers, programmers

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>>136671958
Says the ramp faggot
How about you and all the other ramp fag navies have a frotage session

>>136675110
dumb and stupid much?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/14/upshot/if-americans-can-find-north-korea-on-a-map-theyre-more-likely-to-prefer-diplomacy.html

>>136675750
Please archive those
https://archive.is/TwcOv

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>>136671612
>hans poster earlier talking about europe uniting after centuries of wars
>hans now talking about europe needing to build nuclear power aircraft carriers

Topkek, yuropoor military SAD. You mad we got superior airforce and infinite supply of mexicans to fill in our marines?

Sure, build carriers, prepare for the next war by planning for the last one.

You don't have an overseas empire to police like America so you don't even have that reason for putting do much money into a nearly obsolete weapons platform

>>136675599
>programmers
they still would come

>>136671612
You know carriers are expensive right? You won't have as much money to give to sandniggers. Are you sure you can live with that?

>>136675599
great idea
only the strongest bulls should be allowed to rape our women

>>136675830
And the best Filipino sailors

>>136676174
I assume you and your family have already volunteered
so tolerant, go show those evil racists what it means to live in a multicultural society

you have 6 seconds to rationalize why boats need to have a nuclear reactor on board

time starts now

>>136676663
you only have a refuel once every couple of decades

>>136676663
foreign force projection. now shut up, Pedro.

>>136676708
>>136676735
>instant bullshit full of fallacies
>doesn't just admit they wants to overcompensate their boats like they wish they could with their penis

Why is it called the eu army when 95% of it is just stolen shit from France?

>>136676809
>instant bullshit
oh yeah, how so?

>>136676908
>m-muh i don't need to refuel!
>who gives a shit about irradiating the ocean and all of the crew members on board

you fucking assholes

>>136671612
Germany is too busy being cucked by Muslims. Enjoy your sharia patrols faggot.

>>136676663

They don't NEED one, but it does make a lot of shit a lot simpler and a lot more cost effective. It also takes a massive load off of the logistics of handling a vessel of it's size.

>>136676992

> didn't read your reply posts

Never mind, you are apparently a retard who can't do the most basic elements of research. The chances of you being a flat earther in my eyes just skyrocketed.

>>136677009
last time I checked a muslim was still mayor of your capital, so don't act like muslims aren't a problem in your country

>>136677165
>flat earther
Quaint. The only flat earthers are the retarded people on the right who think having an irradiated world is the right path to take.

>>136676992
nigga you fucked up. the US government parks their nuclear vessels up in japan's asshole. You know how nutso the Japanese are about the US irradiating their shit? They've got all their radiation detection gizmos in the water 24/7 monitoring the US.

no radiation.

You want to talk about fucking up the Ocean, active sonar. That one fucks up sea life goooood.

Seriously though, explain how only having to refuel every couple of decades as bullshit.
Cause you didn't, you just changed the topic and tried to drag the conversation into a DIFFERENT area you know nothing about.

>>136671612
>Germany
You're not allowed to have a real military. That includes aircraft carriers.

>>136677199
>>136677009
Yes yes, we're both losers. I'm not sure that should make either of our nations happy.

Why does Europe need aircraft carriers? To carry more refugees from Africa?

Europe must be disarmed and split in Russian and American zones of control. Anything else is going to lead to awful lot of problems for everyone involved.

>don't leave the EU bro we don't want a socialist superstate with it's own army
>dude don't worry about having foreign troops stationed in your country designed to quell rioting more efficiently because they have no connection to the people
>one love one Europe dude

>>136671612

Source?

>>136677510
>quell rioting more efficiently
>being against the military stopping Antifa rioting

k, lad

>>136676992
You'd receive more radiation standing on the fucking flight deck than standing on the deck above the reactor.
Dipshit.

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>>136677258

Quite, and you're the sort of retard who doesn't research to find out that US radiation protocol is so strict that the average reactor core worker (someone who literally goes inside the fucking core) is only to be subjected to an additional .03 RADS per year than you do sitting in your dad's lazy boy shoving Cheetos in your mouth and jerking off to Natural Discovery.

FYI you just sitting there are accruing .05 RADS per year. The guy inside the fucking reactor is getting .07-.08. Per year.

I know you don't know what this actually means as it relates to anything, mainly because you're a ridiculous faggot out trying to get attention like I'm your meth head father or some shit. I also know you're going to continue to squeal "MUH RADIATION" like a good little pig.

But seriously you are pic related.

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>>136677367
>You're not allowed to have a real military. That includes aircraft carriers.
we found a work around

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/world/europe/germany-nuclear-weapons.html

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>>136671612
Wouldn't something like this be more your style germany... opening your ass to migrants

>>136671612
Germany doesn't need a carrier because the cost of a carrier battle group (carriers alone are missile bait) would require stripping all other forces of funding.

OP is a Russian shill who objects to an effective German army and air force. Fuck off back to Moscow.

>>136671726
fpbp

>>136676898
>Why is it called the eu army when 95% of it is funded by Germany?
Answer: disguise

>>136677598
>leftist authoritarian government will stop leftist authoritarian terrorist groups
Deluded much Hanz?

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>>136677799

We all know it's coming.

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>>136677691
>>136677674
>>136677288
>what once took 10/10 bait, now only requires a dash of 1/10
/pol/ has changed.

>>136677199
>last time I checked a muslim was still mayor of your capital
EXACTLY!

I want to see a single Brit finding a Muslim major in Germany. Fact: you cannot.

All the while, London is majority non-white with 1/3rd Muslim population.

>>136677412
believe me when is say it doesnt make me happy to see britain today. I still think its a shame that your empire ended, since you fought so hard to defend it.
But I hate faggots who still think that old rivalries are the most important thing in europe right now. We shouldnt fight eacht other, we should fight the common enemy, the EU and the filth they bring into our nations.

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>>136676992
>irradiating the ocean
You do know that water is the best absorber of radiation in the universe right? This is why they put rods in water tanks

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>>136677893
fuck off faggot

>>136677731
>Germany doesn't need a carrier because the cost of a carrier battle group (carriers alone are missile bait) would require stripping all other forces of funding.
We need to increase our military funding by 50 billion per year by 2025. I think that is more than enough to build several carriers, maintain them, have new tanks and a new fighter jet online... all alongside a nuke program with ICBMs.

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>>136677893

Faggot we have been trying to use logic and reasoning on people who think something with tits and a dick is a unicorn. You tell me what's changed in the last 5 years.

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>>136677923
>the EU
first, it was germanics, not barbarians who attacked rome
then, it was teutons, not germans, who massacred Polish people in Gdańsk
then it was prussians, not germans who partitioned Poland
then it was nazis, not germans with their WW2 bullshit
now it is EU, not germans who want to destroy europe for 3rd time in 100 years
remove yourself from Europe, go to madagascar or somewhere, but for glory of immortal light, stop that shit, cease it now!

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>>136677838
this time we will suceed.

>>136678074
>tfw acting retarded to lure people into debating dumb bullshit was once considered success
>tfw reddit-tier stick figure comics destroyed this reality

>>136678012
Why would you be swimming in nuclear reactor pool water?

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>>136678198
no you wont, and millions of lifes will be lost again, and you will be humiliated by some bigger coalition again, and Polish border will move west again, and jews will laugh in a distance, again

>>136677731
What would Russia want with 80 million effeminate men and turks?

>>136678307
We want the best for Europe. A strong Europe with a good defense is the best Europe.

Now go back to bed and live off of our money.

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>>136678198
this is a more appropriate image for the German vision of Europe

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>>136678423
>We want the best for Europe.
bullshit, you want what is best for you and your pal france, everybody else does not matter for you. You started refugee crisis and wanted to kill europe with it.
and about money: you owe us 1 trillion USD for WW2 reparations, pay up motherfucker

>>136677905
shut up, read my previous post (>>136677923
) and stop attacking your brothers
maybe there are no muslim mayors in germany
but muslim sympathizers are in office
for example our chancellor. Go to any big city and look around, the only germans you see are old people and maybe here and there a few young ones.
>>136678132
I wish I could stop the autism of my fellow germans, im trying my best but what can you expect from the people who will most likely vote for merkel again.

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>>136678423
>We want the best for Europe.

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>>136678261
Drones didn't always exist and stupid crazy hazard pay

>>136678583
>I wish I could stop the autism of my fellow germans
I wish you could too

>>136673748
Damn I guess our 11 nuclear supercarriers with no ramps and two more on the way no longer exist.

>>136671772
I imagine your gas bill must be quite high.

>>136671612
Who the fuck needs a nuclear powered ship to raise a white flag? Fucking Frenchies are crazy man.

>>136678442
>Policijia
>Germany

Ok there, Frog, try again.

>>136671612
> OP is getting penis envy because China is going to build the longest carrier ever

Fucking kek
What is even the point of a longer carrier? The two biggest limitations of carriers are how quickly they can launch / recover aircraft and how big of a target they are.
Making it longer isn't going to improve aircraft turnover, if anything it'll make it worse because you're cramming more of the fuckers in whilst only having one runway and one launch rig.

Fucking chinks need to open their eyes when they're drawing design documents for multi-billion dollar missile magnets.

>>136673748
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>136671612
germany shouldn't have any military. you guys are awful and i want you invaded by whoever has the will.

>>136679382
ayo

>>136677699
>Britain or France, it finds, could legally base nuclear warheads on German soil.

Fucking lmao. Daddy countries have to give you the big boy weapons, but just to borrow.

>>136679622
>make longest carrier in the world
>give it a ramp
How could the chinks fuck up this bad? No offence to the Queen Liz class btw.

>It doesn't have a ramp

GAYYYY!

>>136679622
>and how big of a target they are.
Considering we will never see major powers battling each other with conventional equipment, this is an idiotic statement. The Somali pirates or ISIS will not be able to target aircraft carriers.

>>136671612
Aircraft carrier are useless as fuck, we have one because France has the biggest coastal domain in the world but that's it, rest of Europe (outside of UK) doesn't need it.
Already invest in tanks Hans and we will talk about mimicking the burgers later.

>>136679849
>no offence to the queen liz class btw

why? any of the US supercarriers get 7x as many launch/captures in the same amount of time.

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>>136671612
No cut out with your fucking nuke båts, due to this increased traffic of nuke båts at our cost the gov has issued all of us iodine pills in case of radiation poisoning now.

Just cut that fucking shit out right now. The fucking coast is serged with nuclear underwater fishing vessels, yes we see them (((Britain))), (((US))), ((((Russia)))

Fuck of with these nuke båts, we know you all are thief fishing with them. The pills in stock had expired 10 years ago so they had to make new ones

>>136679925
why woud you need a carrier to fight against pirates and sandniggers? Because you cant get airplanes there any other way?

>>136671612
You're never going to catch up with us but thank you for pulling your own weight.

>>136679436
Who the fucks needs a nuclear powered ship to flee back on your island like a coward at the first sight of an enemy ? Fucking retarded anglos.

>>136680070
>why woud you need a carrier to fight against pirates and sandniggers? Because you cant get airplanes there any other way?
Yes.

There are 1000 reasons why Europe needs nuclear powered carriers. From wars in Iraq and Syria to wars in Africa to wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan to future wars in South America and South East Asia to wars in Eastern Europe to wars in the Pacific.

>>136671612
Europe doesn't need a super-fleet larger than anyone except China, perhaps. We're not going to invade the US, and the Middle East is within land range.
And South America is near enough to old imperial areas, if push comes to shove.

>>136671612
It's so tiny.

>>136671612
Also take care of your boats FFS.
You should take them up each fall and work on them in the spring. Look even over the waterline it's rusty.

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>>136680014
>rest of Europe (outside of UK) doesn't need it.

Typical Frenchie, wants to surrender to Africans. Ok then.

>>136680167
Name one reason we need a carrier that does not involve some future war that may or may not happen. Or even better, name me a thousand reasons since according to you there are that many, so how about you name a few

>yes
ever heard of airports that dont swim?

>>136679883
>>It doesn't have a ramp
>GAYYYY!

I was playing tennis yesterday. Next to me two teenagers were playing - mediocre tennis. They tried to overpower each shot. Every two minutes or so, one of them would cry out loud "SCHWUUUUUL!" when he missed a shot.

tldr - redpill me on why a ramp / missing a tennis shot is gay, I don't get it

>>136671612
How pathetic do you have to be to let the Charles"Queen of the port" Degaul be your EU flagship? Even the Chinese with their ex-soviet ex-ukraine ex-mafia carrier laughs in the face of the "tub of Toulon.". The fucking poos can build a functional carrier but the EU can't be bothered to go beyond the bare French bottom of boats. The mighty EU military will have less power than goddamn Malaysia after they bow to the French and their algerian cruise line. Absolutely disgusting Europe, no wonder you're fucked by Italians every day.

>>136680216
This, we actually need more landforces and a bit more airforces because if we ever fight with Russia it's not with their navy they will invade us.

>>136680346
>Africans.
I thought those were syrian doctors and engineers who will enrich us culturally
stick with one version

>>136680560
>How pathetic do you have to be to let the Charles"Queen of the port" Degaul be your EU flagship?
At least it got no ramp.

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We're going to haul these illegal nuclear fishing vessels to port, fine you 6 gorrilion shekels a day for them, so you are unable to get them back, like we do with the Russian fishing vessels that enters our waters

Take your nuke shit elsewhere
REEEEEEEEE

>>136673748
>>136674827
>>136679343
>>136679652

Germany doesn't even have nucelar power plants on its soil anymore.

>>136680681
Fair

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>>136671612
Yes you do Hanz you need them to fit thousands of refugees. ;^)

>>136680346
(((NGOS))) (((AID GROUPS)))

THEIR BOATS SHOULD BE SUNK ON SIGHT

>>136680707
Norway needs to be German clay again.

Manipulated EU accession referendum in Norway when?

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>>136680823
Never, you will just overfish like the (((tourists))) that come here.

FFS you can bring half a ton home legally Hans, but you can't adhere to that even. I think 500kg of pure cut fish is pretty generous.

You will just empty the ocean of fish, that's whats wrong with you (((europeans))) down there

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>>136680346
>you need an aicraft carrier to stop niggers on their trashboats

You krauts are fucking retarded when it comes to build weapon, no wonder you lost two world wars.
Also the fact migrants are passing in Europe without opposition is caused by pure political weakness, if we didn't want them to come we could stop them with a bunch of wood Galleons from the XVIIth century kek.

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>>136671612
Fuck you german scum. You are retarded. Piss off.

>>136671612
What do you need an Aircraft carrier for? You've already been trojan horsed.

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>>136681110
This

Posting top secret terrorist sea map, don't repost

>>136681110
I might have made that infograph a long time ago when I was drunk. Darn, those arrows really are "unique".

I don't remember why Canada is "greatest ally".

>>136680157
Who would have guessed, typical frenchie cant take a bit of banter without getting his panties in a twist, I bet they are white too... you know. just in case ;)

>>136680443
Ramps mean that the planes have to carry less ordinance and aren't as fast initially as planes launched by catapult. Basically ramps are for poorfag countries that are okay with losing effectiveness because they can't into catapults.

>>136681344
So you are saying that you more reasonable when drunk and fetzendeppert? Maybe we should pour all the alcohol we've got into all germs forcefully to make you vote for an Austrian again.

Seriously guys, no one wants to invade and take Europe from you that you need Aircraft carriers to stop. You have the same defense that Mexico has. Too many problems.

>>136681615
Nigger please! They need it to make war amongst themselves. How do you keep a union nobody wants anymore together? How do you shake down countries that stop cooperating? How will you force Switzerland to join?

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>>136681344
>I don't remember why Canada is "greatest ally".
They are not, it's stolen land and they have destroyed our fishbanks there.

In other news, important finding
https://www.nrk.no/nordland/torrfisk-sensasjon_-_-vikinghistorien-ma-skrives-om-1.13632492
They have proven that we sold dried cod to Germany in the 800ds, as we've said all along

>>136681497
>So you are saying that you more reasonable when drunk and fetzendeppert?

I think at the time I was arguing why Europe doesn't need terrorist attack carriers. But I was wrong, we still need them. Terrorists are multiplying everywhere.

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>>136673207
>Hardly any go to Germany as it is to cold there
Kek, good bait.

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Will make iodine pills locally due too increased atomic threat

https://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/norge/2017/08/07/195322470/vil-lagre-jod-piller-lokalt-etter-okt-atomfrykt

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abcnyheter.no%2Fnyheter%2Fnorge%2F2017%2F08%2F07%2F195322470%2Fvil-lagre-jod-piller-lokalt-etter-okt-atomfrykt

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR NUKE BÅTS
REEEEEEE

>>136671612
France / Germany will do.

>>136676019

We should take advice from this brave survivor of the emu war. His military tactics will prove invaluable when the emu regroup.

>>136681732
Well that might be why the EU wants it I just can't see why the citizens would want to spend $10 Billion US on a ship they don't need. I mean none of the world super powers are looking at Europe and thinking they need it. Besides the problems there's not very many natural resources left so they would be fighting to get a population crisis.

>>136671612
lmao. the moment the EU starts dedicating large military craft to be built for X country is when you are going to start seeing countries fight among themselves over the right to own the next carrier, etc. When the EU does fall apart, countries are going to demand payment for their % of the crafts and it will start another fucking world war in Europe as fucking usual

If a third world war starts in Europe, I think all countries there should lose all rights to govern themselves

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>Currently, Russian "Dmitry Donskoj" is the world's largest nuclear submarine and built in the 1970s, heading north along the Norwegian coast.

>But both Allied vessels and Russian warships are powered by nuclear power and can have nuclear weapons on board.

>The combination of increased international tension and ever-older European nuclear power plants has led the Norwegian authorities to have iodine pills available in several of the country's municipalities.

>- It is important that iodine tablets are available in all municipalities in the country. An accident with such a reactor-driven submarine can happen all along the coast , "says Astrid Liland, Head of Division at the Norwegian Radiation Protection Authority, to NRK.

cucks use atomic fission to heat a boiler to get the båt running.

Real men use the wind, because they know into. Cucks don't know shit

>>136671612
The US should be building QE2 class and not Gerald Ford class.

One third of the cost and one third of the crew requirement.

They could have thirty of them for the same price as ten fords.

>>136671612
>build nuclear carriers
or
>pay welfare of tens of thousands of refugees

this is a hard one hans

>>136680707
Nothing wrong with nuclear you fucking retard.

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>>136683746
FUCK YOU!
Keep that shit in your own country and don't bring it here! They are giving us pills you retard, because sooner or later one of these covert fishing vessels are going to blow up, because you are a bunch of retarded niggers that even don't know how into fission

>>136671612
>we need at least 5 or 6 of them
where are you getting all those men to crew them?

>>136684371
God damn you're booty blasted over a little good old fashion fission. Let's see, nuclear's only had what, 4 major accidents? How many have oil refinery's had? Perhaps we should ban the use of oil, or put the restrictions nuclear faces onto oil. Then we'll see how your shitty Norwegian economy does.

I'll call you when I make your wife my cock warmer.

>>136683746
I'm already shitting in my pants everyday because French nuclear power plants are managed by niggers, fuck you.

i got a hand delivered notice, 72 hours to report to the nat. guard barracks.

I am glad that it is finally happening.

>>136684640
Your nation's a joke nowadays, so don't start whining you pasta nigger.

>>136684840
you are a joke, the sad thing is that you don't know it.

>>136671612
Wait, why does it have to be nuclear powered?
Couldn't we just use regular fuel?
And if we want to go full psychosis, shouldn't we make a wind powered aircraft carrier?

>>136684940
Fin's are atleast red-pilled.

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>>136671612

No one has ever explained to me why you need a Nuclear powered Aircraft carrier?

>Ridiculously expensive
>They can only sail as far as the fleet
>Need refuelling for aircraft fuel anyway

>>136685106
>tfw you are a british expat

>>136684908
To be brutally honest? My self confidence keeps climbing!
Thanks for checking in though, new-found friend!

>>136684702
You're going to South Korea.

>>136671612
Fuck off NATO shill. We just need to use forks if nothing and smite those migrants right in the eye and Germans too for not killing migrants. You really think i will spend billions to fight Aladdin and his carpets in Middle East, when the problem is right on our borders. We should use those carriers to nuke Germany.

>>136685163
no worries m8, we'll bulldoze your remains. Some nerd will dig you up in a thousand years.

>>136671612
standard carriers are more than enough for any European country. We only need control over the mediterranean

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>>136673207
>Hardly any go to Germany

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>>136685317

What if some one threatens your interests over seas.

>>136685315
Sounds metal as fuck, nice!

>>136673032
Nuclear powered aircraft carriers need each year 6 month of repair to avoid any complication

It's not anormal, the real problem is that we don't have a second one to sail while the other one is in repair, and almost no politicians except the far right give a shit about this issue

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Look at our mighty ramp and tremble

>>136685272
I hope so, doubt the kiddos that I will have to train to kill will understand, so I'll get to watch them get blown to chunks. weeeeeeeee!

>>136685398
The only countries that have over seas interests are you and France, and you both have nuclear carriers, no?

>>136673339
>Germany isn't even pretending to not be the Fourth Reich anymore

>>136685317
> implying one of the major member of the EU doesn't have the most massive oversea territories in the world right now

>>136685384
Germans literally will 100% put niggers on those aircraft carriers, you can bet your ass on that and it's going to backfire so hard your country will never recover from finances and those niggers. One thing after another, first we need to remove Middle East from Germany, before we protect from it in Middle East.

>>136685317
Standard carriers are more than enough to bring our bulls over the mediterranean.

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>>136685451
This ramp reminds me of something... but what ?

>>136671612
The EU has an army now?
>>136685317
The biggest threat is the North Sea and Russia retard. Also carriers would be good vs a Mideast war for air surpression.
But if the EU is going to make an army, first they need to make it so the EU isn't second in command to Germany'

>>136671612
Fuck off Hans, we know you just want to rule the world again. Never trust a filthy fucking kraut.

Any other /killers/ here?

>>136685570
Russia isn't a threat. Americans are a threat and migrants are a threat, especially nigger migrants and American NATO niggers, those should have priority in killing.

>>136685481

The Dutch, Portuguese and Spanish have terrorises overseas

>>136684599
We do the fissions here

Just keep out of our waters, you are niggers, you don't understand this. We can't trust niggers with fission God damnit. Get uuuuut! We see your illegal underwater fishing vessels everywhere, it's why we are pissed in the first place.

So take your nukes, ideologies and shit elsewhere, we do not want this

>>136671612
Because making another superpower nuclear capable is a good thing to do

>>136685451
Why do people make fun of the ramp? I though it was soppsed to be good engineering and save full and ship costs or something
T. Not a navy guy

>>136685570
The closest thing we have from an EU army is a franco-german regiment that exists for decades and isn't useful

>>136685673
I doubt Spain and Portugal can afford to waste money on nuclear carriers. Maybe the dutch

>>136685653
I certainly hope that you get your wish, and I thought nigger were dumb.

Why do Germans want to ruin Europe for the 3rd time? Seriously, what is up with these people, why do you need aircraft carriers for? You shits keep thinking about some retarded goals and ideas, trying to push your agenda of the day on people and then cry that others don't give a shit and smack you down for being genocidal idiots.

Seriously, at this rate Germany should be totally demilitarized, EU taken apart and borders reinstated so we aren't polluted with more shitskins. German reunification was a mistake.

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>>136685764

I doubt we can to be honest

>>136685451
these looks more sea worthy, I have a concern about one of them though, but it looks like just you know the mast so it I think it's ok.

They don't look like Carl Gustav's that won't even reach out of Harbor before (((sinking)))

>>136685816
based rational anglo

>>136685721
Cata = more versatile and can allow heavier aircraft take off.

Ramp = cheaper and for lighter aircraft/less choice.

>>136685816
Good thing they're not nuclear powered.

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>>136685721

Much cheaper and wont break down, although it limits the type of aircraft you can use.

>>136685810

>why do you need aircraft carriers for

imagine how many refugees you could fit on the deck!

>>136685816
they should really try to get that tower there in the middle of the ship desu

Let the planes run on both sides instead

Why don't you fucking understand these things.... sigh

>>136685721

because it's goofy, so there's bantz

>>136685570
>The biggest threat is the North Sea and Russia retard.
>MUH RUSSIA!!!
Oh god. They don't even have the man power to occupy Europe and nuclear deterrence is more than enough to avoid conflict with them
> Also carriers would be good vs a Mideast war for air surpression.
That's what NATO bases in turkey are for. Plus conventional carriers can do just as good a job in a mideast scenario

>>136685915
Probably all the WASP remaining

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>>136685869

Look at all our shiny new ships!

>>136685873

Not making them nuclear was a great decision, only submarines need to be nuclear powered imo

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>>136685769
https://www.gutefrage.net/frage/gibt-es-schwarze-in-der-bundeswehr
>25% aller Bundeswehrsoldaten einen Migrationshintergrund haben.
Translation:
>25% of all Bundeswehr soldiers have a migration background.

Giving NATO or Americans more army or money or giving EU more army is paying for your own destruction. As you see the enemy is inside German army, why give the enemy more money and toys? You know what would be a better idea? To give Russians 1000 nukes, that would be better, much better, at least they are kind of European.

>>136685501
You mean France? They do, but they already have a nuclear carrier.
What do countries like Germany or Italy gain from a nuclear carrier?

>>136685953
>trolling with a ramp

you took the bait

>>136685923
These things have a compartment iirc that opens out for helicopters to land on, like an extension or something.

>>136686002
>Not making them nuclear was a great decision, only submarines need to be nuclear powered imo
I agree, look at the French and American carriers that use nuclear, they constantly break down and need repairs, people laugh at the Kuznetsof (can't spell it, blame Russia for having a retarded language), it's belts out fumes like a heavy smoker but it works.... lol

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>>136685673
Not as big as ours 1/2

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>>136685673
>>136686102

>>136686054
Political supremacy and the possibility to deploy their troops oversea which they lack right now

And yes I mean France

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>>136686125
I like how you made the French blobs bigger.

>>136671612
No more free boat rides for invading hordes. Fuck Germany and fuck you.

>>136686102
eh, I like fighting with the few men left in your shitty country,

>>136672179
You don't need carriers, you need to acquire balls to defend your country from itself.

>>136686002
here too, the middle one.
Why are you keeping all that weight on the back of the skip? It should clearly be in the middle.
Granted though it's not on one of the sides, which is more important, that is you don't want to get your båt to tip over in rough seas.

If you speed up alot though, the båt will start raising it self on the back there, that is why you have to distribute weight you know. When you hit the gass it will start stalling on the back side, so you rush people to the front to keep it down in the water. These engineers didn't think of that. In fact it would be better to keep it in front if you are not doing the middle, that way all the crew didn't have to run in the front when the captain hit the gas

You always have to do this, when you hit high speeds, put weight on the front

>>136686192
they are not made bigger, it's really our recognized borders just as the british ones are really yours

France has right now the biggest oversea territory in the world

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>>136686308
Yeah yeah, I just checked the wiki and it's pretty much the same red circles for France, not giant blue blobs.

Don't try it with me young lady.

>>136686308
lol that your nigger country is poking at france,.

Put weight on the front to keep the boat down

>>136685427
> need 6 month of

No, nigger. They don't. US carriers are maintained underway and their maintenance cycles are nowhere near 50% in any case.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB9316/index1.html

Go back to Russia with your agitprop nonsense, cunt.

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>>136686102

Don't forget we have a Nato alliance agreement, so if some fucker attacks your overseas territories we have to come to your aid.

and as your aircraft carrier often spends 18 months at a time in mothballing it will most likey be us that come to your aid

>>136685451
I still don't see the need for two poop decks.

>>136686427
fucking bong, you are a disgrace.

nobody puts weight on the back, who would do that?

The (((motor))) is already there and weighs a lot, so you put everything in the front!

>>136686539
I hate you worthless cunt because of this

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>>136686563
No.

>>136686429
I'm french, burger, you know people travel within europe

>>136686575
What we should be doing is using migrants as fuel for our carriers.

Charles, open the coal furnace!

>>136686642
Silence Romania we all know you're from Chad.

>>136686635
call me a burger one more time, bitch.

>>136686642
you are a nigger,

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>>136686303

You can possibly say that the weight distribution of the ship is askew, you don't know where the Gas turbines in the ship are, or how the weight is distributed internally.

You cant just a ship on how it looks on the outide

>>136671612
What about Elizabeth?

>>136686684
COMPLETELY LANDLOCKED

what about you britboi ?

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>>136686710
What's the matter?

>>136686745
lol, you realise we've been opposing an EU army for years? The only reason they're going through with it is because we're leaving and no longer cock blocking them.

>>136686767
Lot's of water and oil.

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>>136686610

Hay fucker!

The only time Article 5 of the Nato agreement was triggered was when your guys were attacked in 2001.

You didn't help you us in 1982 when we were invaded did you.

>>136686684
>What we should be doing is using migrants as fuel for our carriers.
Sounds promising desum yiou should never waste you know, that is something we are told since birth.
>Never waste
They have to be good for something, like fish bait or oven fuel

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>tfw churchill had to suck a cripple off and then lost his nations entire empie to the the US to fight Germany.

>>136686610
He's right though, the USA invoked Article 5...

>>136686939
Was he the guy in charge during the Suez crisis?

>>136686937
See now you're thinking like a pioneer! We should make it happen Obervik.

>>136686939

Darn the Tizard mission, You'd still be in the dark ages if it weren't for that

you bongs should not ever talk about shartmart.

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Why does Europe need carrierrs, look at this rusty piece of shit Russian ship. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it looks like its about to fall apart. Jesus christ how does it still float.

What the fuck happened to russia?

>>136686876
You forget the poor welsh, the smelly scots and the butthurted irish

>>136687076
We were bongs, then we won.

>>136686939
BASED

>>136686991
No he wasn't, it was Anthony Eden, but Churchill was responsible for the gallipoli disaster

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>>136687117
The Scots are indeed smelly, they need a good scrub down with soap.

>>136687096
That rust heap is still more effective than the French carrier.

>mfw I'm not even joking

>>136687195
fuck off, nigger.

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>>136687096
At least Russian army isn't a trojan horse. Those migrants you got employed in your army will gladly just import not just Arabs, like they already did, they will also import Mexicans.
This is how it looks like when your army is made out of same people you are fighting against:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mare_Nostrum
>Operation Mare Nostrum was a year-long naval and air operation commenced by the Italian government on October 18, 2013 to tackle the increased immigration to Europe during the second half of 2013 and migratory ship wreckages off Lampedusa.[1] During the operation at least 150,000 migrants, mainly from Africa and the Middle East, arrived safely to Europe.

>>136687200
>tfw he's not even joking

>>136687200
oh no, if you try they'll cry for help and independance

leave them in their lowlands with their strange cuisine

>>136671612
>nuclear carriers
Wouldn't it be irreparable globally devestating if these things capsize?

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>>136686939
>>136687076

https://youtu.be/TdBSwhms7O4?t=14m30s

>>136687336
no

>>136687240
*mountain jew

>>136687336
yes they'll detonate and create a massive nuclear winter where only the hohols will thrive

>>136673207
Well who the FUCK invited them all over you cuck.
Legit feel bad for the greek and italians have to take the consequences for you major fuck up. And no they actually they don't want to stay there. They want to come home to mama Merkel who speaks so highly of them

>>136687336
Probably, don't think anyone cares.

>>136687195
>No he wasn't, it was Anthony Eden, but Churchill was responsible for the gallipoli disaster
Yeah he was indeed useless then, but you can't give him credit for the breakup of the empire when that didn't happen under his watch.

>>136687329
They're alright they just need the leftism scrubbed out of them with a good bar of carbolic soap. A good scrub scrub.

>>136687350
The Irish got their revenge. Fuck your queen.

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We just need submarines with stealthed nuclear artillery.

>>136686991
Lobster bait!
Lobsters are attracted to really stinky stuff, the more it stinks the better

The (((coast guard))) will attack you though if you catch them off season or if they are not big enough. Lobsters are basically jews

But you know, you catch them and hit fore the shore. Pruddy sure george sorros have his finger in the coast guard(kystvakta)

>>136686876
What about Nato which the UK is still a member of?

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>>136687450
Miss me yet?

>>136673445
yes but you buy it ONLY ONCE , and then you probably can do 10000000 KM

>>136677699
>implying Britain or France would be stupid enough to let you borrow their nukes
Everyone in Europe hates your guts, including both of these countries. Won't work.

kreps... lit cancer
they are also jews

>>136687492

No, our television is flooded with your stupid fucking cunt voice.

>>136687448
What about their gibberish accent ?

>>136671612
and what do you want to do with that.
the EU will need at least another 30 years to even reach a point where they should think about projection force to other places and by then the sees will be swamped with pakistani, indian and chinese carriers and subs.

it's just a waste of fucking money as long as you have no real objectifs...

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>>136687460
>Lobsters are attracted to really stinky stuff, the more it stinks the better
I'll keep my dick out of your ocean, I don't want it pincer'd off, I have enough problems with crabs.

>>136687560
We have translators.

>>136687551
And our country is full of Irish people fleeing Ireland, suck it up.

>>136671612
we need to spend billions of dollars to bomb the shit out of some middle east shithole more comfortably
bonus points for letting the country slide into the state of anarchy while not achieving any strategic goals

>>136687450

Irish?

what have they go to do with anything?

>>136687649
Italy has seized a rescue ship operated by an NGO and dispatched a navy patrol boat to Libya as part of an Italian attempt to end the Mediterranean migrant and refugee crisis.

The twin moves came as figures revealed a surprise drop in July in the number of refugees and migrants arriving at southern Italian ports.

The Iuventa, a boat operated by German NGO Jugend Rettet, was impounded on the Italian island of Lampedusa on the orders of a prosecutor based in Trapani, Sicily, the state police force said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/02/italy-impounds-ngo-rescue-ship-sends-navy-patrol-boat-to-libya-migrant-refugee-route-europe

So all that's going to happen is that Germany will have a massive carrier to ferry more niggers over into the EU.

>>136687625
apparently my people are niggers and white bois that have been swindled by kikes. pick your battles anglo.

>>136687625
But we don't, you should put it on the market

>>136687460
Lobsters confirmed indians

>>136687649
When you talk to German/American flags about military you should 90% of time imagine Indian, half-nigger or Mexican, since that's who you are talking to. They just want more paycheck, that's all and they will never protect your country. Niggers can't protect white people, it's mission impossible.

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cancer lit cancer
>>136687625
kek, craps like stinky stuff too, but the lobsters are worse

>>136687750
What? we're all suffering.

>>136687818
Crab and Lobster meat does taste good though you agree?

>>136687761
They are very rare and expensive, Scottish is a very difficult accent to understand, even the Scottish struggle with it.

>>136687984
yes my distant cousin, we are fucking suffering.

I would invest in supersonic missiles (medium-long range) and spam them in large stockpiles capable of being rapidly launched in mass.

> Carrier group approaches
> Fire 100 missiles at carrier group
> Carrier + most support ships sunk

It's much more cost efficient than building & maintaining an entire carrier battle group

>>136688161
My friend.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perseus_(missile)

>>136674029
>Britain, a non-EU member state, is leading the EU army
>somehow this makes Britain the cuck
Hans, you're putting a non-EU state in charge of the EU army. How cucked can you be?

>>136687984
>Crab and Lobster meat does taste good though you agree?
No I hate them, but I fish them and sell them though.

I like fish, whale and beef
>need lobsters?
>need cancer?
>need crabs?
I can hook you up, but I don't eat (((them)))