What's the consensus on xenoestrogens?

>>136646507
Yes and yes

>>136646507
Is that a man???

>>136646507
We need to release the results of testing.

>>136646507
They're probably a part of it but almost certainly not solely responsible. It seems like something complicated that we should look into the research about.

>>136646507
yes and yes

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>>136646659
if you have to ask does it really matter?

>>136646507
Yes.
No.

My will and determination is much more powerful than mere jewish tricks.

How can you avoid? Everything we consume touches a plastic or polymer in some way. Look at the content of our body soaps, deoderants, toothpaste.. bombarded with radiation from cell phones.. every where we turn there is poison. Short of going full anarcho-primtivist and going innawoods we are force fed bullshit.

Sure you can stem it, by working out, eating somewhat healthy and organically.. but damn, as a human we shouldn't have to go to extreme measures just to be a healthy, free-thinking human being.

>>136646507
No, feminist and marxist media and the female oriented educational system are responsible. Think about it, when boys are told how horrible men are in their childhood it makes sense a bunch of them will try to be like girls

>>136646507
Too good to be true.

>>136646592
>>136646792
what do your diets look like? hygienic routines?

>>136646507
No you're just a bitch.

>>136646507
Real mean take up combat sports and/or the following hobbies.
Dirtbiking
Hunting
Surfing
Fishing
Team Ball Sports

Doing these things is natural for the male mindset and are extremely healthy.

There's a reason when you see these hormone and vitamin D depleted basket case godless cunts you want to smash them in the face, its your male instinct trying to help them rediscover testosterone via violence and adrenaline.

>>136646859
Humanity is dead

>>136646507
Nein. Atrazine is a much more serious issue, plastic bottled water could be given up by all individuals immediately.

Atrazine however is running off into the ground water supply, (((coincidentally))) in every western country causing gender related mental sickness, physical changes, male infertility.

Current mass mono cultural farming will take years to transition from, Atrazine is a key pesticide/herbicide used for mass agriculture. We are fucked.

Are there any red pill images/stats regarding xenoestrogens?

>>136647162
i'll take the hunting and fishing, you can keep the (((SPORTS)))

>>136646507
Pueraria Murrifia is a xeno-estrogen. It's used to cause breast growth and for males, gynecomastia. There's a guy (as in a genetic born male) who I used to communicate with, who managed to grow DD tits because of it.

>>136647283
>Atrazine

This, its known to mutate frogs cocks, my dad won't use it on his farm

>>136647162
I did stuff like that and I'm a tran.

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Here you go.

>>136647427
>>136647162
I'd throw in working on cars too.

If you can't change a tyre you may as well go suck a fat hairy cock and get it over with

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>>136646507
>Are they really responsible for causing the feminization of of the modern millennial male?

Nobody knows the effects on humans, it's said to be minimal, we can't filter it out properly. At the same time we know the effects on amphibians and fish are real. The "frogs turning gay" shit is real. Evolution is very dependent on gene expression, not just how you're born, which means your diet for instance will change how you develop, even with a specific gene set.

We also have incidental data like the average sperm count dropping in males since the 50s.

Trannies are going up and is 3:1 MtF.

Something fucky is going on for sure. Only question is what. Estrogen in the water, xenestrogens in the plastics, various chemicals in foods.. Very hard to nail down even if you're looking for it, and we aren't really.

>>136646659
no, she's some extreme degenerate German. milo moire. she likes to let strangers feel her vag

>>136646832
Is it that "box around the pussy" whore?

A bigger detriment to modern males is the complete lack of testosterone. Men do not do activities which boost testosterone, and fat rich diets don't help.

>>136646507
Think I'm going to start sucking bull penis in order to raise my test levels.

>>136647786
>did

>>136647849
thanks

>>136647875
agreed

>>136647945
she's swiss and she's an 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk6ppxnpWsM

>>136648009
yes

>>136648062
Not even meme-ing, eat animal testicles.
If eating bovine ovary increases estrogen, I don't see why eating animal testicles wouldn't do the same.

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>>136646507
Almost certainly bullshit. Porn addiction and the absence of male role models is a more likely explanation for drop in T.

>t. Medfag who lives off Soylent that will likely get thrown out for all the shit I say & moves I put on women

STOP WATCHING PORN DEGENERATES.

>>136647786
Fuck of back to Vietnam then you ladyboy

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>>136648035
>>136647875
>>136647162
Is this a meme? Does doing certain activities actually give you more testosterone and make you more manly?

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no its bullshit god destroyed sodom and gomorah for being faggots thousands of years ago before plastic and chemicals

same thing with rome they were faggots

>>136648247
>tfw you call her a whore, but if she was in your town you would go elbow deep just for a laff

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>>136647927
>Exposing primitive animals, while they're developing, has significant effects
No shit. This hardly means that adult men will become sissies if they have small doses of estrogen like chemicals in their diet.

Our ancestors lived off rotting grain ffs. Give me a break with this diet shit. It's fountain of youth horeshit unless you have specific weight loss objectives in mind, or you're not covering the very basics.

Stop watching porn - it will do far more for you.

>>136648247
sad men

>>136647427
surfing is escapism fag it refreshes the mind just like a nature walk

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>>136648340
Of course, get your ass out there and kick some ass.

Embarass some girls with your come ons and boasting about your potency.

>>136648771
sounds like an excuse to get naked with your bros, fag. I'll stick with the nature walks

>>136648340
physical activity gives more testosterone, yes
for unknown reasons, work related motions like chopping wood produce even more than similarly exhausting exercises

>>136647927
how do you deal with the drinking water?

>>136648340
Working out is a huge boost to testosterone. Men are not built to sit at home all day, that's what women did while the man went out and hunted or farmed.

>>136646832
>if you have to ask does it really matter?

Yes.

As for the OP

They are partially responsible (also propaganda, other chemicals etc). I avoid them as completely as I can. I still have small amounts of soy in my diet, but it's at levels low enough that I'm not worried about it, especially because I avoid so many other things, like beer.

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>>136648461
ANCIENT Romans hated fags more than we do.
>Politician trashing Caesar's mother was mocked because of rumored homosexuality - people said he was just jealous that she sucked more dick than him.

During the Empire they became a degenerate, multi-racial welfare state. That is when fag acceptance, orgies, etc. became the norm.

Even Ancient Greeks hated sissies. Faggotry they had no issue with.

>>136648902
if you can't be naked around another guy and not feel insecure you are the fag here plus what is a wetsuit retard nobody surfs naked

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Look at this graph. It highlights just how sharp the collapse in fertility rates have been in Canada, and it seems to have occurred just as plastics were beginning to become a mass consumer item.

We can't rush to conclusions, but it's interesting how steep the cliff is, and its timing.

>>136648340
>>136648340
Not a meme at all.

Certain activities definitely regulate mood and perspective.
There's a lot of speculation out there the reason why modern women are so unhappy is the breakdown of female communal events that used to happen as little as 50 years ago. Women's duties and such. Now they're all corporate or whores or both they are all in competition with each other and it manifests in deep unhappiness.
I'd source this stuff but can't be arsed.

The inverse happens with men, who incidentally are naturally competitive either roleplay against each other via sports or against nature, hunting, surfing, fishing.
The combination of physical exercise and strategic thinking og these activities elevate production of natural hormones in men which are beneficial in men, just as group activities like baking cakes and talking about children elevate respective hormones in women.

this shit is good for you, its why actual friends always want to bond with you over activities such as these, even MMPORG's and /tg/ stuff stimulates these parts of the brain in men, it doesn't have to be all /out/, /k/ or /sp/

>>136649283
oh I can be I just don't make an occasion out of it. you seem a little shook

>>136648990
Use water filters.

http://www.infowarsshop.com/-ProPur-Water-Filtration_c_53.html

Here, you have a wide selection of my very effective water filters.

>>136649729
they don't work on the estrogen though

>>136649524
you were projecting your homo inside you i just have to call it out bud

>>136649148
>tfw you mentioned Julius Caesar to your sister the other night
>tfw she started laughing and said he was a faggot (a real one)
>tfw you sperged out
>tfw she told you how she learned in school about how all of the Romans were faggots and constantly had orgies
>tfw you told her that wasn't until the empire was dying and no one cared anymore because degeneracy was running rampant
>tfw you told her how the same thing is happening now and she laughed
>tfw you asked her what she had just finished watching on the electric Jew
>tfw it was some faggot pride garbage because it's 50 year since it was legalised
>tfw she realised you were right
>tfw you both went quiet and sat in sadness

Sometimes I wish I didn't know that the steak doesn't exist.

>>136648247
>shes swiss
ooooh swiiisssssss
>shes 11
FUCK ABORT MISSION ABORT MISSION

>>136649801
no, I was stating on opinion and your gay ego took over. why does this bother you so?

>>136649407

Hmm, the birth control pill was introduced in 1960.

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>>136648724
>primitive animals

Is this some kind of creationist appeal to human exceptionalism?

> while they're developing

Kids drink water. Humans develop longer than most mammals outside the womb. More to the point, we know now that epigenetics is more important than just genes, gene expression will determine how you develop. Your brain isn't fully developed until your early 20s for fucks sake. What you do during all that time matters.

> This hardly means that adult men will become sissies if they have small doses of estrogen

We already know that men with higher and lower natural testosterone develop differently down to personality. Yet you think introducing key sex hormones wouldn't matter?

The only real unsolved question is what dosage gives what effects. Denying it has relevance is just fucking retarded.

> Our ancestors lived off rotting grain

I'm not even sure what the fuck you're talking about. Every key development in the expansion of human life is tied to diet. Steady production and cultivation let us go from nomads to city dwellers. Being able to cook food allowed us to process much more than other animals. This is why we're singularly successful animals.

You don't have any rotting grain ancestors, they couldn't compete with the ancestors who were smart enough not to eat it.

> It's fountain of youth horeshit unless you have specific weight loss objectives in mind

You can look up the Johns Hopkins studies on treating seizures and cancer with dietary changes right now. Low caloric diets are cited in virtually all longevity studies. We know for a fact low calorie diets extend the lifespan of mice significantly. These boil down to metabolic realities, the cost to your body each time it needs to break down food.

All of this is just science. Appealing to your own ignorance and laziness doesn't change it.

>>136648340
Lifting weights does, especially multi-joint lifts.

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>>136647023
I'm a big guy and need ~3000 Kcal a day. I also don't like to waste money. I eventually found a pattern- the less ingredients in a food product, the easier it was to identify and research. Things like chicken breasts, broccoli, fish, eggs, peppers, spinach, walnuts, whole grain oats, rice, brussel sprouts. That sort of thing. Not everything I eat is completely devoid of phytoestrogens, but if I avoid the major offenders (ex: Soy) and almost all food additives that have been in human consumption market for less than my time on the planet, I make sure that my intake is low enough that impact is minimized. (impact on the body through ingestion is based on a sinusoidal curve). Lots of water is wonderful for the body, but xenoestrogens in the water are of serious concern and it's filtered water.

Variety of foods and tastes is important to me, enjoying food has a psychological effect, so I eat some things like sheep or goat cheese in small amounts and mix things up as often as I can, and I'm always looking for more things. ie. Roast a whole chicken, have a great meal, and make chicken stock out of it and make a soup.

You can find unscented, traditional soap pretty easily. Cold shower. Same attitude towards laundry. That's actually really easy to do compared to food, which early on requires some research. The amount of things out there that contain Soy is crazy, and I'm very suspect of many of the modern vegetable oils and food additives to prevent separation, increase shelf-life, or change color or texture of the product. I also concern myself with indirect additives from packaging.

When you start feeling good, the habits get easy to stick with.

I'm so angry. Worldwide Jewish plot to feminize men and I end up as some burly midget instead of a manly man or a girly boy.
I can never be either.

>>136650587
thanks

>>136648340
Various excercise, yes, is well documented in science to boost testosterone levels.

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>>136646507
>beta cuck: oh i cant have xyz... theres too many xenoes its making me fem.
>chad: Hots the gym harder than betafag ever has and pushes past the first painful rep or gasp for air. Then goes and chows down whatever the hell he wants and fucks bitches.

Hit the gym 3-4 times per week for 45 mins and eat anything you damn well please. This doesnt mean go once for 20 min and then smoke weed, and pound down 2 bottles of soylent...

>>136652094
>dude it fits in my macros lmao

not today, shlomo

>>136650716

lol little guy

scrappy do over here

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>>136652094
Ever see a body builder female? Disgusting right? Manly as fuck right?

Tfw hard work pays off.

Men are supposed to endure pain and work hard to provide a teeny bit extra so the woman can raise a kid.

Stop living in cucked areas with retarded rent.

Stop giving your best years worth of creativity and productivity to the kikes above you while you beg for a 4% raise so they can laugh at your disappointment later on when they hire their friend to take the job you worked so hard to fet promoted for.

The kikes are winning and squeezing millennials dry with these jew tricks. Its time to change the game mates. Move somewhere cheap and find a way to keep more of what you earn.

Hit the gym.

Winning + success will raise your testosterone levels and make you more confident so the girls you want will want you back.

>>136652655
Yea. I'm 5'2" on a good day.

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>>136648247
>she's 11

Just call me a pedo then

>>136649949
>>136653501

>11
is not the same as
>an 11

>>136653164
Stop

Posting

Like

A

Redditor

>>136646507
reminder not to take anything you read here seriously.

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>>136646507
On one hand they feminize men.
On the other hand, thanks to them we have slutty teen girls with DD cups.
I'm of the opinion the benefits greatly outweight the drawbacks.

>>136646507
>Do you actively avoid them?
Yes. If you have the means, go to an intergrative doctor. They run loads of blood tests and will check all your hormone levels. Many men have actually rising hormone levels, and estrogen in particular, when too low or too high, is correlated with cardiovascular events (stroke, MI). Same with low T and all that.

My estro levels are damn near perfect. The normal estradiol range is 7-42, 20-30 is ideal for heart health according to various studies. I'm sitting in the high 20s. Diet brought in down a few points into ideal. You can take low dose anti-E if you're on the upper end or out of the range. Doctors can prescribe perfect amounts but they tend to over prescribe, so watch out. Start slow. Too much E won't kill you, but too little can make you feel like shit (and some guys can't get wood).

>>136647927
God I miss Leslie Nielsen.

how much does one cost?

they matter, but their major harm is inflicted largely in the womb during gestation, the keyboard isn't the leading culprit.

>>136648304
>xenoestrogens are bullshit
>but PORN saps your testosterone!!!

You're an idiot.

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>>136646507
I googled this woman and found out she is just some whore with no kids, and then I had a desire to holocaust the Jews more than then the desire to have sex with that joke of a female.

/pol/ is killing me. Help...

>>136646507
Estrogen is awesome.
I wish the jews turned everyone into slutty dickgirls.

>>136656146
stop taking it so seriously

>>136650082
Ding ding ding. That's all it's showing. It's not showing male fertility (i.e. sperm count).

>>136654401

Those are called "paragraphs". You'd know that if you weren't illiterate.

>>136656052
Every time you cum your testo lowers

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>>136656386
who is there to impregnate when there are empty chairs in the offices and universities to fill? Why take birth control or even abort if you don't want to extend your career?

>>136656609
is this proven? give me some dataz

why us is it soooooo hard to get rid of tiny love handles and pectoral fat? Something is going on that's affecting our metabolism

To be clear this is not an excuse to be fat, I'm talking about losing stubborn fat for bodybuilding. The shit will not fucking going away. Months and months of starving myself and it's sooooo fucking slow. I wish I could afford to get blood panels and shit.

Please no pleb tier suggestions, I know all about the body been reading and lifting for several years.

>>136656800
your diet, anon. go keto

>>136656800
this, i too want to know.

these man tits are not pleasant and im in the middle of changing my diet and working out.

>>136646859
>Look at the content of our body soaps, deoderants, toothpaste..
Can it affect you even if you don't ingest it?

>>136646859
This could be fixed if we nuke the Centre of consumerism and promote a scientific campaign that tells evryone about these side effects. It would easily work if the main stream media would cooperate with scientists and the government on this.

Obv we would have to remove (((them))) for this to ever work.

>>136657665
I always thought the consensus on this was- once you have them, they're much harder to get rid of, and lot of people have to repeatedly build muscle and tone before it's essentially invisible.

>>136646659
Looks like a digital painting. Open your eyes!

>>136656933
>keto
most above ground vegetables taste like shit though

>>136646507
Safe to eat foods you can buy at the local supermarket and prepare in your microwave.

It's super convenient. And embracing such effeminacy is why you're becoming a woman.

>>136646507
I smoke dick and cigarettes. Kills estrogen dead

>>136656609
of course its a mexican

>>136659481
learn to cook
vegetables take more care than anything else in the kitchen, but they actually taste the best.

>>136657665
Just wear a sports bra, bruh. It's like being hugged all day long. Comfy af, desu.

>>136646507
I thin there is an obvious feminzation of men take a look at men in the 50s vs today, its obvious.

>>136655441
Those are bigger and therefore more glorious than measly DDs desusenpaifamalamachan

>>136660281
I can cook, but cruciferous vegetables and leafy greens are terribly bitter to me and green beans are fucking disgusting

>>136646507

Plastic food and drink containers are bad for this kind of shit. Eat and drink from cans when possible.

The fact is you can't avoid this shit totally. Milk for example is full of oestrogens (some scientists believe its responsible for the "man tits" phenomena). Cows are pumped up to the eye balls with hormones to make them fatter and produce more milk. Some petrochemicals are another source.

Just avoid plastics and milk as best as you can.

If you have to pick one pick Milk. Just avoid it completely.

I eat junk food exclusively and I am hairy like a sasquatch...my nipples are dime sized and look a little silly. I actually have to take syn estrogen or my joints ache all the time because my natural levels are too low. Officially too manly.

>>136660873
I am specifically referring to the wonderful tastes you can get out of Broccoli, Kale, Brussel Sprouts, collard greens.

Me thinks you can't cook.

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>>136646507
https://youtu.be/IBrRxWdLDBw

>>136656800
It's your diet, plain and simple. So long as you get plenty of protein and keep calories down with good workouts you'll trim the fat.

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>>136646859
>Short of going full anarcho-primtivist and going innawoods we are force fed bullshit.
Anyone else planning on doing this?
I'm thinking of just borrowing as much money as I can and spending it all on coke and hookers then running off into the woods forever. Who's with me?

>>136646507
Lack of strenuous physical Activity plays a larger role. If you grow up playing sports like football, I doubt you'll be feminized.

>>136661487
I've tried broccoli many ways when prepared by others and the only one that is barely tolerable is stir fried in chinese food, makes me choke when its raw too

Love me some asparagus and peas though

>>136646859
You can buy deodorants that don't come in plastic containers, just expect to pay more.

I've said it so many times before

1. Avoid tap water
2. Drink bottled water instead
3. Do NOT re-use plastic
4. LIFT WEIGHTS
5. STOP WATCHING PORN
6. Stop eating fast food
7. If you drink milk, drink organic milk

>>136647162

yeah, it's not pseudo-alpha male bullshit bordering on animal kingdom buttrape (you closet case suppressing your true desire), it's a social service for the weak.

>>136647849
this is very daunting

>>136648340

Why is this surprising? Testosterone boosts muscle development, if your body is going through stress that requires more muscle mass, it will produce testosterone in order to build muscle quickly.

>>136662495
See this Anons.
This cunt has too much estrogeon.
That's why it bitches like a woman on its rag.
Go cram a tampon into your arsehole you sickly cunt, men are talking here

>>136663338
It's over the top. The idea of poison in your food can really run on people's psychosis. You have to do your own research.

I try to keep it simple. Agribusiness has put a ton of stuff in your food with very little care or consideration of the long-term health effects. Your body's hormones are volatile, especially Testosterone. We all know how some foods can make us feel great, and some foods make us feel terrible.

It's not hard to extrapolate from that that we should be cautious about what we eat.

>>136647023
Buy kosher only unless it's bacon

>>136647162
Yeah right. I hate all that shit except when younger I played rugby. I like running, hiking, and biking. I have four kids and am a real man. Don't be so closed-minded. Doing certain shit doesn't make or not make you a man.

>>136646859
>body soaps
wrapped in paper
>deodorant
Only use if necessary
>Toothpaste
Make my own
>Cellphone radiation
Carry cellphone as little as possible