Does the tech industry really discriminate against women based

>I'M A WOMAN PROGRAMMER
>that's nice. your code sucks and using the woman card won't make people not notice
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>136612161
>devalued
>not differing but equal
ah fukit

Mass delusion. Victimhood is a hell of a drug.

>>136612161
Is there anything worse than a she-sandnigger?
No.

>>136612161
The best programmer in the industry is a woman.

Karlie Kloss

/pol/ and drumpftards BTFO

The tech industry actually discriminates the LEAST of any industry I've ever seen.

If a woman is put on your team, 99% of the time she's fucking incompetent. That they are the bottom of any team they are put on is almost axiomatic at this point.

The ones who CAN code are welcome wherever they go *once they've proven they can code and aren't just some fucking quota filler.*

Traditonal hacker-types have seen enough worthless female programmers that their initial skepticism will have to be overcome.

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>>136614925
You seem to have misspelled 'totally retarded'

>>136612161
>>136615006
theyre both probably secretaries and think data entry is programming

Anyone unironically using the term "tech" or "code" is a mouth breathing retard or CEO trying to manipulate their bottom shit tier employees in to thinking they're special.

>>136612161
every girl in my program just wanted to become a PM

No. It's actually more open than most industries. For proof of that, just look at how many women are in tech even though the vast majority of women have no interest in tech and fewer are any good at it.

>>136615006
Everyone has to re prove themself what the fuck is this? You just want to be paid without consistently doing good work?

>>136615184
accurate statement here

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>>136615247
Fuckin kek

>>136614925
>Karlie Kloss
And how does one determine who is the best exactly?

Ha! Wait until these women hit the tech age wall.

>>136615542
Because she has the best code. Women code better than men it's science.

>>136615636
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>>136612161
>Emotionally exhausting

Why do progressives always talk about feelings as if they involve the expending of energy?

ask them for a fizzbuzz

>>136615542
Exactly. They are all tech slaves that have found a distraction in office politics.

>>136615723
fuck, I tried to find that one but I couldn't.

>>136615271

Women are brainwashed by feminism to view normal shit that everyone goes through as gender-specific.

They literally believe than men never have to prove their worth or accomplish anything. Or that we just walk into the office and get paid 7 figures for nothing. It doesn't matter to them that all data proves the opposite is true and that the straight-white-cis-male leftist boogieman actually must have above average qualifications or else he gets AAd.

"I feel oppressed so I must be oppressed" -SJW reasoningi n a nutshell.

>>136612161
>is this really an issue?
Are dumb women an issue? Yeah, absolutely. Unlike dumb men they can't be fired.

I hate pointing out that im a woman in the tech industry. I worked hard to be as sucessful as I am, no one gave me any special treatment along the way. Work hard and be good at what you do. This shit is madness. These woman are such pussies

>>136612161

My business partner is a woman and she's great at software development (better than most men I've met).

That said, if you suck at software development, the best way to keep your job is to be a woman.

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>>136612161
>systematically devalues
Her industry systematically overvalues her, that's what the memo was all about.

She is a diversity hire.

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>>136612161
>>136615006

The current female culture is absolutely toxic. No wonder the marriage rates are crashing. These "women" are toxic from head to toe. There are no redeeming qualities. This constant bitching and moaning about every perceived transgression and micro-aggression is madness.

Is there a factory that produces these kinds of bitches? Seriously, what made them so vitriolic? I've met plenty of kind-hearted women who had terrible childhoods and came from poor families.

>>136612347
*programms something on computer*:
-code rejected you are a woman-

>>136617112
They are spoiled middle class white girls who never had to fight for anything, and never got told they are wrong

This is the result of no discipline, no punishment, and no failure

>>136612161
So she's in porn?

imagine if these women had to live the life of men

>>136617112
The jew media and the jew university made them this way so that we don't get married and breed with them. It's working very well so far.

>>136615723
>>136616214
Is this a reference to something golden?

>>136612161
Woman here. It's true. I went to work at Microsoft and they made me suck Pajeet dick.

>>136617631
some twitter twat was posting about females in coding and if you looked at her screen she wasn't doing anything at all, but her followers were like "i don't understand it but wow so amazing!"

>>136617777
Did it smell like curry?

>>136612161
Fucking no. Every woman in computing in my uni got bursaries for being female. There is no discrimination or devaluation. I had to pass 7 interviews to get into my computing job im currently in. They only hired 1 female in my place. People need good talent in the field. If you didnt get in tought shit u wernt good enough to meet the level. Not discrimination

>>136617631
>karlie_kloss_koding.jpg
>>136617777
>checked and kek'd

>>136612161
Just ask them if they got fired for speaking their mind then say, "Case closed."

>>136618042
I didn't save it, can someone post it?

lmao women are so narcissistic that they think they are the only people in the industry that have to constantly prove they know the subject.

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>>136617631
>>136617631

All she is doing is going into and out of a folder.

>>136612161
Who gives a fuck? Your job is to fucking type code. If it works you get paid, if it don't you gtfo

>>136612161
There is no way for them to know if they are hired due to their skill or due to diversity hire. I hope they realize they will NEVER know.

>>136612161
>I've been seeing tweets like this a lot lately, is this really an issue?
it is a huge issue when you don't actually read what people write and form your opinions from your opinions from other people's opinions instead.

>>136612161
NO, it's not, and if you have a pussy and a CS degree you can choose from dozens of tech companies with 6 figure starting salaries and girls clubs where you can bitch about how sexist the culture is even though you're surrounded by beta numale faggots and other women

>>136618321
typing is like 10% of the whole job, it's a lot of thinking/studying alone mostly

>>136612161
>its a "there are no inherent differences between men and women" episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV2yvI4Id9Q

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>>136612161
>ugggggghhhhh
>it's EXHAUSTING
Women say this word like I'm supposed to give a shit.

Also
>systematically devalues me
[Citation needed]

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Tech is still meritocratic... for now.

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>>136612161
The gender imbalance in the industry is driven by the gender imbalance in tech course enrolments. How the fuck are we supposed to achieve a 50/50 employee ratio when enrolment ratios are more like 90/10 or 80/20?

Tech nerds are an easy target for criticism, they always have been. The extremely vocal people criticising and pigeonholing the industry don't realise they're perpetuating the whole "NNNNEEEEEEERDS!!!!!!" mentality and thus making the situation worse.

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>>136612161
I work in a global IT firm and work under a woman who pushes this movement as well.

It's part of a larger agenda, the whole "diversity" programme is being pushed in literally ever company, on top of that "gender wage gap/bias/discrimination/imbalance" hokus pokus.
Naturally, it will fail as either the company will reluctantly turn into a meritocracy where this forced diversity will prove women are of no added value, or even many times burdensome -- or they will literally go Stalin on every dissenter, leaving the company with free bleeding cat-obsessed whores and see them free fall on the stock market.
Of course, I can't speak my honest opinion on it on the company floor, let alone laugh with male colleagues because nu-male NKVD spies everywhere.

Either way, the free market will take care of things once again. Give it time and they'll give up and fuck off because it's ineffrctive (women suck at convincing because they only know emotional appeal) and a waste of company resources.

>>136618443
Excuse me? Just trying to start a discussion.

>>136612161
It's what happens when you throw people(women) who are used to getting everything handed on a silver palter into a field where skills and merits actually matter to achieve acceptable results.

You can't discuss compiler error messages and crashes away.

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>>136612161
women make shit coders, take fucking forever to do anything, at the end of the day everything they do is broken, fucked up, bloated, inconsistent, and just a mess. when you approach them about this glaring and obvious issue, they try to turn it around on you like it's your fault, then screech patriarchy or some other feminist shit.

>>136618411
I want to add to my comment, As a man, I couldn't take living like that. Thinking I was hired due to my sex.

>>136616674
i bet you're ugly

>>136618884
truth.

a penny saved is a woman fired.

>>136619398
>>136617777
lel this is why women don't come to /pol/

>>136612161
Yes. The cushy tech jobs they want also just happen to be the most sexist. It's a crazy coincidence

>>136612161
I'm confused.
Is she saying it's exhausting that people keep devaluing her work because she's a woman? Or is she saying it's exhausting that people keep trying to tell her that the job she's in doesn't value her because she's a woman?

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>>136618806
no. the imbalance is driven by this.

>>136617777
didja film it?
asking for a friend

>>136612161
Sorry sweets. Because I'm white and have a dick, I've been able to do amazing things and it's been super easy. I barely have to work and people just live me.

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>>136619398
BTFO

>>136615271
They don't really understand this because this is a not-well-connected man's world from birth, but they're only introduced to it after they graduate college

>>136619220
That's a man thing to say. Women and niggers don't think the same way. They enjoy gibs and want more free shit. They don't have any sense of accomplishment.

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>>136619817
exquisite whiteknighting, sirs

>>136616674
number pls?

>systematically

I'd like to see this system. Who designed it? Who oversees it?

>>136615006
>work in a competitive industry (read: any industry)
>surprised when you are expected to compete and perform well against other people

>>136620305
In order for something to be systematic it has to be written down as a rule somewhere. So, in that case the only systemic racism or sexism that exists is directed at white males.

>>136612161
I don't care if you have a vag or not. Your work should speak for itself. If you have to use your snatch as a crutch, I have news for you, you are in the wrong career.

>be typical male workplace
>bust balls and be a normal amount of critical of each others work as men usually are with each other
>woman enters this mans world and gets treated like men treat each other

"Waaaaah I'm being discriminated against!"

>>136620619
This is what I thought too, but they have another made up definition for what "systematic means". I think they changed it like they changed "racism"
they do not operate on our definition.

Someone made a game over the manifesto
https://elizabethsampat.itch.io/8-vignettes-from-the-tech-industry

>>136614963
This, all the female programmers we have always end up doing things like keeping track of bugs and shit, responding to emails coming from the top, and shit like that.

It's pretty rare that you find a women programmer that can code at an advanced level, i.e higher order, actually caring and envisioning future problems ahead of time instead of just hacking shit together to make it work until the product becomes a complete fucking unmaintainable potato piece of shit.

>>136617334
I think in other terms, these women made it through college and then arrive in the real fucking world with the expectations that it will be like college and about completing your class assigments.

It aint, real life coding is different, you have to actually care about what the users want and need, care about more than just what is necessary to get your dumb ass grade.

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> be cis white male
> have 15 years professional experience in my field
> work for past 5 years in the beauty industry
> 98% of the company is female (or female identifying)
> All of the female co-workers and c-level employees were hired from within the company with no experience
> ALL of their previous jobs were sales clerks/ checkout
> In every meeting they spent almost whole time talking about how wild they were in college
> End of meeting, I'm only one with projects to do, since I'm only one capable
> Still have to listen to how each one of them would have done it different than me
> anytime one of them would miss a deadline, they would literally cry in the meeting
> said things like "I've just been really down about myself lately. I feel unattractive."
> all's forgiven
> I was forced to apologize for hurting their feelings on 10 different occasions for asking the status
> finally left there to start my own company
> would rather starve than return to that insanity
> was replaced by a woman at 2x my salary who had no experience, and hadn't kept a job longer than 6 months
> she lasted 3 months
> most of the team has been fired because they can't deliver

Fellows, shrug your shoulders and walk away from these businesses. They don't want to hear, and will not budge. Why burden yourself trying to build a bridge that they'll burn down?

>>136612161
Computer engineer here, these entitled little cunts can fuck right on off.
Every fucking company seems to have diversity quotas these days, I've seen well deserving individuals get cut from positions just because someone with a bleeding vag comes around with their hands out.
Want a scholarship? Helps to be female
Want to be admitted to a high ranked college? Helps to be female
Want to atop tier job offer? Helps to be female

And they have the fucking GALL to cry sexist when someone dares imply things aren't merit based anymore. They deserve everything that happens to them

>>136612161
its emotionally exhausting being reminded over and over about womens fucking issues when im trying to do my job

>>136619709
That's a proof of the Kiwi's supposition, not a refutation

>There's a clear 30-point difference in SAT scores for mathematics between boys and girls across income bands
>SAT mathematics scores are highly correlated with engineering/computing/compsci aptitude
>this results in a disparity in merit-based admissions between adolescent males vs females in STEM related subjects
>Degenerate lefties: BBBBUT IT MUST BE SEXISM BECAUSE THE RATIO OF HIRES ISN'T 50% REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>136614963
>The tech industry actually discriminates the LEAST of any industry I've ever seen
no, the tech industry continually discriminates against men in order to try to "fix" the gender gap in employment, while also refusing to address real underlying causes of the gap like shitty working conditions, low pay, low social status, insane cult like management techniques, etc.

>>136612161
Because:
a) there are few female programmers, because women don't like STEM, they like feelings
b) most of them are fad professionals, in it because it's trending now
c) tech firms actually have some standards, even if not optimal

>>136617506
Yeah but at what point does it become a matter of personal responsibility? It's 2017. There are a lot of red pills out there.

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Long comment,apologies.

Since I haven't conducted any serious study into the topic, it's difficult for me to speak with regards to anything other than case-by-case examples. I'm a master student at one of the best technical colleges at Sweden, and my experiences are as following:

Women in tech are like women everywhere; craving, absolutlely craving, for attention. In a class of ~100 people, there were about 10-15 women at first. Initially, all of the women formed little cliques around themselves with about 5-8 men orbiting around them, all the time there to buy them stuff, like coffee, and get them other things, like pencils and whatnot. In projects, these cliques would mostly be intact, except for when no group-making was allowed by the students themselves. It is from these projects that my experiences mostly come, since I would not degrade myself to assosciate with a woman as an orbiter, and I have a fantastic gf at home, so they simply do not interest me.

In the project's I've been a part of, it has, as you can probably guess, been the men who've done the absolute majority of the work. When a woman has indeed written any code, it has mostly been design stuff, like user interfaces and such. The underlying problem relates to my original statement: the attention they crave. It is not at all uncommon for the new project groups that form to end up like the women-ran cliques that I spoke of earlier, with the woman in the middle handing out attention to the most deserving guy, and at the same time, craving it from all the rest. This sort of underlying dynamic is often devastating to the project groups, and it severly hinders bonding between the males and any further work.

cont.

>>136621601

cont.


But, you might be asking, aren't these people university students, they must be more mature? Sadly, in my experience, no. You must not forget, that the people who come to these schools (the men at least, I'm positive that most women gain entry by quotas) come from backgrounds that sort of makes them nerds and losers; they're the smart people from high-school and such. They are not, at all, used to female prescence, and so when they finally experience it, they don't know how to handle themselves.

But, back to the topic. I am, as stated, not a professional. I'm still a student. It would not, however, suprise me in the slightest, if these conditions where the same in the workforce, complete with the women-run cliques and all. And that is why I thought I could share my experiences.

>>136612161
what is it with people's use of the word "systematically" or "systemic"? i'd like to know the history on that PC buzzword

>>136621260
>They deserve everything that happens to them
Not much is happening to them. So far there has been no consequences to either the beneficiaries neither the enforcers of forced-diversity.
Please brainstorm, how can we fuck them all up? Burn down this shithole Google.

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>>136612161
Fuck off we just wanted to play our games and you kept bitching about "muh misogyny" "muh racism" "muh LGEBBphobia" "muh sandniggerphobia"

If you just let us faggots play our fucking games alone none of this would've happened but you insisted, now live by the consequences.

Fucking women, leftists and SJW's unironically pushed me to national socialism, and jew/nigger/muzzie/commie hating

Fuck them all

>>136621697
If you can offload your perceive racism/sexism claim onto a system rather than an individual there's no one who can argue against you. A system isn't sentient and can't defend itself. However everyone in the system is impacted by whatever change is brought by your cry of discrimination.

girl poster here. remember that the future IS female baby-wabies men are obsolote

>>136621750
We're already starting to see the first wave of karma hitting, women in professional careers who are hitting 30 can't find males. Even if by the grace of god their personalities were fixed overnight and they got their youth back, there's simply not enough successful males to go around.
These women went against nature, and now nature is breeding them out. The house always wins

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>>136621195
Moving on like that is how our ancestors created civilization. Good for you.

>>136621641
Yes, there are both boys and girls clubs, at least in my past 15 years of experience working for a top 50 public company. The girls clubs wield power but add no actual material contribution for solving business problems. Fortunately I've got a hook into the IT girls club through one red-pilled female who is scared for the future for her 2 white male children.

>>136612161
>>136612161
Yes because it is objective. Unless we build a programming language that compiles and runs on fe fe's tech will always discriminate against woman.

>>136622127
this. unfortunately white men are paying in the form of fewer white babies. that said, an older (35) man can still get with a younger woman and make babies. women are the ones who are really fucked once they hit 35.

>>136615747

Because they're useless fucks.

it's like if a girl posts here. "no girls would post here!" "tits or gtfo" "t.roastie roastie detected"

>>136620918
>It's pretty rare that you find a women programmer that can code at an advanced level
there are very few really elite female programmers. the best female programmers are generally about average for men. they are definitely employable and better than the lower end of men but the best male programmers are usually turbo autists who work insane hours and have zero social life. being an elite programmer is like being an elite jizz mopper. it is not a glamorous life style and usually not high paid either because good actors make more money than good programmers.

>>136612161
Nope. If you notice, no one says anything at all until a "scandal" makes the MSM. Then you get these attention whore parasites coming out of the woodwork to tell fabricated stories about their oppression and how they were "scared" to talk about it but the scandal gave them "strength" to come out and say what happened to them. What pisses me off is their enablers, white knights and cuck orbiters encourage this shit behavior.

>>136612161
It's easier to bitch on social media to guilt trip society than it is to work hard and earn success.

>>136621461
The real cause is that women mostly can't code. Some can, but that's where your point comes in - women are more sensitive to shitty working conditions like open offices and psychological manipulation as management.

No. About 20% of high schoolers interested in computer programming are women. About 20% of computer science graduates are women. About 20% of tech industry workers are women. If there's any discrimination going on, it's happening before high school.

The more plausible interest is, gasp, women might just biologically have different interests than men. Time and time again people find that boys prefer trucks and girls prefer dolls, even when they try to carefully remove every cultural influence. Here's one damning study:

http://sci-hub.cc/10.1111/j.1751-9004.2010.00320.x

>gender differences on the people–things dimension of interests are ‘very large’ (d= 1.18), with women more people-oriented and less thing-oriented than men. Gender differences in personality tend to be larger in gender-egalitarian societies than in gender-inegalitarian societies, a finding that contradicts social role theory but is consistent with evolutionary, attributional, and social comparison theories. In contrast, gender differences in interests appear to be consistent across cultures and over time, a finding that suggests possible biologic influences.

Look at the "interest in people vs interest in things" statistic. A d value of 1.18 is enormous. That means 93% of men are more "thing oriented" than the average women. And that's assuming there is no noise in the measurement, likely the true value is even higher!

There's also this later on in the document:

>When Del Giudice computed the Mahalanobis D for gender differences in Big Five traits, based on a published data set, he found that although the mean d for gender differences in individual Big Five traits was 0.27 (conventionally considered to be ‘small’), the Mahalanobis D was in contrast 0.84, suggesting a relatively large mean separation of men and women in the multivariate ‘space’ of personality

The google guy got fired over saying these things. But it's completely true.

>>136621576
>woman
>responsibility
there's your problem

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>tech kween is emotionally exhausted
>exactly what the memo argues

>>136622338
>programming language that compiles and runs on fe fe
does your programming compensate for historical oppression and unconscious bias? better check your privilege.

>>136612161
> give me credit for existing

What?

Congratulations you exist as a nigger/woman/mentally ill tranny how brave you must be to exist. Incredible. Now fuck off.

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>>136621960
Shrugging and moonwalking away from the imminent dumpster fire that is whatever you imagine an all female future is. Women hate eachother with such toxicity; your entire structure would collapse with just the slightest provocation.

>>136612161
As someone who lives in SF and works in tech. They actually do. I've seen it first hand on several occasions. Believe it or not tech is a huge boys club filled with bros. Well upper management and executive level positions are. Code monkeys are just huge nerds and betas most of the time. I could provide anecdotal evidence but that doesn't hold much weight on an anonymous image board. But believe it or not I'm telling the truth.

Microsoft posted some factoid on my startup screen this morning saying only 6.7% of STEM graduates are women.

Shouldnt more women study in a STEM field before they start bitching about diversity?

Im not sure why this isnt a problem with teachers or nurses, who I assume are majority female

>>136622487
You don't seem to understand where those all came from newfag, there's a nice little summary post from a while back but i'll give you the basic gist of it
There was a large problem with women coming on and making off topic remarks all for the sake of attention whoring because they had a vagina and it somehow mattered in the conversation
tits or gtfo become the standard response to this because they clearly showed that they had nothing to contribute to the conversation other than their tits and had violated the whole idea of anonymity
No one cares if a girl posts here, it's only annoying if they try to make it seem like it matters if they're a girl
The same should apply to the workplace but the jews don't like that

>>136622243
If Peterson said that, he doesn't know the feeling of inner peace.

>>136618226
>open folder "code"
>does not exist
>print path
>go up a level
>go up a level
>show current directory contents
>open folder "code"
>does not exist
>go up a level
>go up a level

>>136622937
Just like anything else pushed by the left, it's due to oppression and toxic masculinity, and certainly not because they are less capable.

>>136622619
>women mostly can't code
i think the reason might be deeper. men are much more aggressive in negotiating higher salaries and better working conditions. occupations that are disproportionately male tend to be higher paying because men negotiate harder and have more collective solidarity than women. historically women have been brought into the work place to bust unions and drive down wages. men don't need an organized union in order to collaborate for higher wages. as long as a field is mostly men they will stick together for better pay. brining women in is a classic management technique to d&c and drive down wages.

never believe that these liberals actually believe their shit. it is always about greed first with them.

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>>136623393
yep, the greed from the large corporations is shocking

>>136618226
no way that bitch setup that $PS1 ALL BY HERSELF

>>136623345
>oppression and toxic masculinity
more likely toxic femininity. the pressure on smart girls not to excel in math comes from other girls, not from teachers or boys. women all sabotage and fuck each other at every opportunity.

in engineering school, the women just seemed to get more frazzled by different shit. idk. what the guy was writing about seemed to line up perfectly with my observations. I'm very observant, and no SJW will ever deprive me of that, despite what the media is screaming about.

>>136623905
just like the black community

>>136622663
>it's happening before high school.
That is why they want to eliminate gender roles from culture, at an early age. They want to crossdress little children. In UK they want to ban commercials that have traditional gender roles depicted.
All this social experimenting will just cause degeneracy and downfall of society.
We should stop their experimentations, and colelct all sjw social engineers and put them in a camp, for DrMengele style experimentation until they are all dead.

>>136622776
>unconscious bias? better check your privilege.
Better check your back, we will shoot you and your comrades in the back with AR15s.
you cant run away from your own degenerate thoughts, can you? white privilege? unicorns?
degenerate.

>>136616819

This. The technical barrier to entry for programming has been greatly reduced, and the industry is the hot-ticket for a big salary, so there's a massive influx of shitty programmers chasing a paycheck. It's become the new real-estate.

By the time women en masse are getting into the game (there are always exceptions to the rule, who are appreciated), you can be sure the bubble will burst, and a large cull will occur.

The industry is primed for this at the moment, investor sentiment is turning, they're starting to realise that the age of investing in unprofitable apps for fickle audiences is over.

But for the time being, we're stuck with a huge demand for "programmers", when most of it is about putting butts in chairs to project an image of "growth" to investors, tack extra crap onto the core-product that originally drew their audience, and hope they exit before the music stops.

Even if we disregard wether or not women tend to make worse programmers, they are dealt *far* less overt criticism and punishment, weigh the team down through hand-holding and fixing fuckups, and respond *very* poorly to criticism (crying, accusations of sexism, even false accusations of sexual assault).

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>>136618226

>>136612161

We've quite literally been given a high profile example of the tech industry overwhelmingly favoring females.

Literally discriminating against males to support females.

>>136624002
in my school (EE) all the women were hardworking, smart, and indian.

in the real world all the technical women I work with are white, entitled, complain about useless shit, and write shitty code (because they have no engineering background but when to some "bootcamp" learned python in 3 months and are suddenly qualified)

>>136617112
>Is there a factory that produces these kinds of bitches?
Colleges and universities.

>>136615006
>smiling woman outside in sunglasses
lol what a nerd xD

>>136612161

Also;

>Choose to work in industry that devalues you

>Choose

>>136624403
The best part is returning a random value like that, when not expected, can cause catastrophic results.

>>136624403
They're right when they say ignorance is bliss.

>hey girls, learn programming so you can help hospitals and daycares and puppies

vs

>like problem solving? great, you might still burn out, but that will help stave it off.

>>136614963
i was a Sr PHP dev, and the project manager kept bitching at me to get some of the client side JS fixed, i tried to tell her thats literally not my job, we have people for that.

She moaned that PHP and JS were the same thing.

i mean like fuck, you dont have to be a developer to understand that.

>>136624403
>Using smilies on your commentation
Cancer. Absolute fucking cancer.
also
>if(a > b && b < a)
Are you fucking kidding me? This is borderline retarded.

>>136616674

You'll never be a woman, trap.

>>136612161
Ive worked in the tech industry for 15+ years as an Engineer. Lemme tell you the truth. In all my years, I've realized women are terrible Engineers. Engineering takes fourthought, mathematics and a certain level of innovative mindset. Women have billions less brain cells physically then men and they can't Engineer worth a damn. I wish it weren't that way but it's the reality. They just suck at it.

Are women better than men at tennis? How about swimming? Why is the brain muscle any different? This world is crazy to think that we're equal. We're not. Men created most (if not all) inventions in history and built the whole mother fucker. Women have been left behind thousands of years ago. Its no different today

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>>136624403
> This is the end of the program see you guys later XD
>guys
FUCKING SEXIST PIG

>>136612161
bitch should get a job where she would be over valued, praised, and cared for

my kitchen and my bedroom

>>136624970
I agree, but the brain is not a muscle

>>136612161

there are no fucking women in tech related programs

NO

WOMEN

anyone in comp sci knows this

>>136625146
Give me enough money and time and I'll Engineer it to be. ;)

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>>136614925
Hmmmm, I know I heard this argument before...

>>136624867
DId you try updating the PC's java? No joke, as a sys admin I hear that too often.

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>>136624970
>fourthought
>Women have billions less brain cells
>less

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>>136624772
It gets even better when you account for people bolting code to their projects.

>QUICK MATH LIBRARY YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH LEAD DISTANCE WE HAVE TO GIVE TO SHOOT DOWN THIS MISSILE
>okay senpai hold on let me call the meme library some woman put into me
>yeah the answer is 5
>5 WHAT
>just five man
>just figure it out you know what to do
>FINE THEN IT'S 5 SECONDS LET'S GO
>pic related

>>136617112

I used to think this was solely a white woman issue. But it's even more pronounced among non-white women born in the west. Except for when it concerns their origin cultures.

I had go to extreme lengths to get a non culturally diseased wife.

>>136624393
>But for the time being, we're stuck with a huge demand for "programmers", when most of it is about putting butts in chairs to project an image of "growth" to investors, tack extra crap onto the core-product that originally drew their audience, and hope they exit before the music stops.
Half of silicon valley is like this. Actually we should call it "useless app valley". the old silicon based companies are still there, there are a few new ones too (like ours). We make products, while google/Facebook/Twitter does not. They are in teh spotlight, as non tech people dont understand the difference between nvidia and facebook, and facebook is inflated so much larger. There are also some hardware companies that dont do any useful product, they suck up investor money for few years, that they party away, give themselves bonuses and buy big houses. Half of SV are scam artists. They take investor and VC money, even shareholder money and spend it on themselves without a sellable product. I wonder when this bubble will burst.

>>136615006
MRW they are just HR sluts...
I knew ONE decent female programmer. She admitted to sucking at first, worked her ass off, and learned(extremely quickly) her job. Ended up leading a successful redesign of a program 3 years later. She hates other women in the field. Not for being retarded, but for trying to use the pussy pass. Hilarious when they can't accuse her of muh sexism for telling them they need remedial code training.

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>>136616819
This.
It's not that women can't; but the women who do, should be there because of their merit - same as men.

>>136624875
that's literally something that i would have written in 9th grade compsci (and im not even a coder kek)

>>136614925
Kek

>>136625315
>do you need java installed for nodejs to function right?
[literally rips hair out]

>>136625259
I like your style

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>>136614925
And which world changing program did she develop? Unless you are speaking about her taking over some company, and running it into the ground. Something women are really good at.

>>136612347
>>that's nice. your code sucks and using the woman card won't make people not notice

That's where you're wrong

>>136625621
Get the knife. Maybe the sandniggers were right.

>>136617334

Also the weird entitlement set by our education system - there is an expectation that society OWES you a high income and a level of fulfillment simply for spending a long fucking time in school.

>Why aren't I powerful, influential billionaire?! I have two doctorates - in Urban Culture and Mansplaining Interpretation.

>>136612161
It's not the industry sweetie, it you genetics.

>>136624403
holy fucking shit. remember when i said bloated bullshit code? yeah, they do this shit. all of them. they have to leave notes like bread crumbs for themselves because they're too stupid to remember what the fuck they're doing. every step of every line of code that isn't smilies and other nonsense has to be looked up and read about because they have no idea what is going on. i've also seen them just "hope" things work. literal hopes and wishes, this is the mind of the female. "whaaa my code doesn't work why won't it just work"

>>136617112
I kept feeling like his eyes were going to suddenly look at me. Creepy image, well drawn.

>>136612161
>>136615006
I bet it is because they are not getting their participation trophies, or in this case bonuses for helping add a line, or two of code.

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>>136612161
>systematically devalues me due to my gender

hey you dumb fucking cunt, you literally get to cut infront of everybody in line simply BECAUSE of your gender because of diversity quotas. holy shit, are women incapable of thinking?

>>136618226
>>136623235

Look closer.

>>136626036
i've seen that alot too. they think that attendance alone means they should be millionaires or something.

>but i went to class
>i got my piece of paper saying i did that
>gender studies is totally important
>why won't anyone hire me
>fucking patriarchy!!!!!

it's like that.

>>136625452
>There are also some hardware companies that dont do any useful product, they suck up investor money for few years, that they party away

Peter Theil speaks about this, in particular the green-energy sector, where companies producing terrible products received massive investment, went bust, and as a consequence that sector became a no-go area.

While it's an obvious point to make, I think the SnapChat IPO has caused a rumbling amongst investors. The current model of tech investment seems to be scattershot lots of start-ups and hold out for the big kahuna, so if even the latter cannot deliver, they'll move onto other pastures.

>>136626271
Well, to be fair I have left 4-5 paragraph messages to later devs in the code of important things. I always write up a letter to the person taking my position when I leave a job, as well.

Not commenting your code is retarded.

>>136624403
Commented code can't speak for itself therefore sucks. Also redundancy sucks. And cryptic optimizations suck too. 99.999999% of the time people try to outsmart their compilers and the result is assembly garbage. Although I value the reverse square root trick. I really do.

Women love to bitch and it's man's duty to tell her to stfu.
We've neglected our duties for too long.

2bh coding is boring as shit I don't know why anyone would do it. Then you're stuck with working with people like this.

>>136624772
Yeah, that's an absolutely unusable max function. Max(x, x) must return x.

>>136622920
As someone who lives on the east coast and works in tech, I haven't seen this often. The only times I have seen a woman software engineer looked over was by pajeets.
I have been in a room where crude jokes were made at times, but nothing extreme and it didn't matter wether you were a man or woman as long as you were competent and not too weird.

>>136627060
this, code monkeys are some of the most boring people I've ever met. no wonder companies like google are so cucked.

>>136626707
oh i completely agree, you have to comment things up for various reasons. it's just the way girls do it, it's like the way they'll take a book and just throw stickers all over the front of it, its nonsensical.

maybe i'm to critical, i worked as a web developer for years. but out of the few girls that were in that business, they all did the same thing. at first i thought it was a fluke, maybe that girl just sucks. but over time seeing the exact same behavior from any girl regardless of when she came into the job, the shit they do instantly makes me rage.

"hey look at me i'm a sassy coder girl! look at my macbook pro!! that says i mean business! also, let me clutter my desk up with all these fucking toys and plants and other bullshit!! i'm a braindead disorganised whore who can never get anything done on a deadline but im a GIRL so you can't fire me because i'm cute and you need more girls here!!"

every. fucking. time.

>>136626707
>Not commenting your code is retarded.
Documentation is important.
"Hey guys whats up this is my code :)" is not.

>>136626873
>Commented code can't speak for itself therefore sucks.
Lazy much? Its like roads without traffic signs and gps.
I do coding like a few weeks every year, and 1/3 of my code is comments. Mainly for myself, but also for coworkers.
When i have to modify my coworkers piece of shit that has no comments in it all, I have to spend 50x more time in understanding his garbage that is all over the place. VHDL and verilog by the way.

>>136626547
>The current model of tech investment seems to be scattershot lots of start-ups and hold out for the big kahuna, so if even the latter cannot deliver, they'll move onto other pastures.
pretty sure the book Zero to One talks about this. VCs know that almost all companies they invest in will not make money, but the one that does covers all losses, or does in theory.
there's a formula to it. who knows how long it will continue.

>>136616674
London?

>>136615006
>technical feats
Bitch doesn't understand that everybody has to do that shit...Men have their ideas shit on for years until they figure out how to have good ones. Nobody is going to overlook a man's faults the way they do a cute girl's. Your entire career lives or dies on your successes, your failures, and how you handle both of those.

Every single beta cuck faggot I went to college with would fight over the opportunity to help any good looking female do any of their computer science homework or projects. If you're a good looking female, you have at least 7 of the 10 best people in any given class ready to help you with every homework question, every project, help you study for every exam. You have the teaching assistant marking your answers correct even when they're wrong. You have recruiters putting your resume in the 'good' pile at career fairs even though it's not that great. You have interviewers overlooking the fact that you don't know when to use a LEFT JOIN vs an INNER JOIN, even though you put on your resume that you know SQL. You have tech leads and principal engineers giving you constant on the job training, and constantly showing you how to do things you should already know how to do, instead of recommending that you be let go, like they would if you were male.

And yet, if at any point a female is challenged by someone, or doesn't get the promotion they wanted, or the rest of the team doesn't go with their idea, it's because they're a girl and everybody is sexist, instead of being because they've been pampered their entire career/life and haven't had to get shut down for the first 6 years of their career before anybody started listening to them.

And then, when a girl is actually rock solid at what they do and really knows her stuff, they immediately get discredited, because everybody knows women have it easier. The women who would still be there without all of the quotas and feminism and biases get devalued, get shit on, etc.

int
max(a, b) {
return a > b ? a : b;
}

Of course not.

It's exactly the opposite.

The tech industry is the only industry that doesn't radically discriminate against men.

Therefore men flock to it, and women, whom for the first time in their lives have to actually compete, flee.

>>136624875
That's not the retarded part of the code. That's just reduntant.
The real retard shit is
>else return 5
max(20,20) returns 5.


The entire function could just simply be
>if(a>b) return a
>return b

>>136627510
Something really bothers me me about people putting stickers on their computers unless its something really clever. (the apple on top of newtons head, the apple in snow whites palm i found amusing).

>>136612161
I feel sorry for the 1% of women who are actually good at their job who get devalued due to these cunts.

I wish I could get in on the criticism but I know fuck all about coding. I'm counting on you faggots to call them out and make them post their code for proof of their skill.

>>136624393
add age discrimination, shitty hours, non-competes, the constant threat of outsourcing, continuous learning, there's better options unless you actually love CS, those who get memed into it are going to be disappointed and just let chad from accounting support them

>>136617463
They would sudoku on day 1

>>136628691
*seppuku

>>136612161
>i'm a strong independent womyn
>I need the government to punish companies who won't hire me

Time for a blogpost that cucks will claim is false.

So I work for a tech company, been here from the start so I'm practically immune to SJW faggotry because 1. I'm black and 2. Everyone besides the founders think I'm a gay nigger from outer space because I strongly disapprove of work relationships so women that tried to get my BBC thinking it would make their work load easier get shot down real quick. I'll try and make this brief.
>HR manager is a SJW ham planet that only got the job because her relative is one of the higher ups in the company
>Have code slut that is incompetent but she's young and pretty so she believes that is all she needs
>Tell her to do her work over when it doesn't meet the client's specifications or just plain doesn't work
>She cries to HR
>Heart disease black hole tells me to back off from her and if I don't like her work to hire and assistant for her. I can use my own discretion with hiring the assistant
>Assistant for a code monkey
>Buddy of mine needs a job for his nephew
>Said nephew has some really good credentials and would be a sure hire for our company
>Friend tells me his nephew was rejected from jobs for bullshit reasons but it was really he's A FUCKING WHITE MALE
>Meet with nephew, tell him he would be well payed and have job security but he won't get any fame or acknowledgement for his efforts, in fact the woman he will be working under will get all the credit so I'm being level with him from the start. Also warn him I will not tolerate any office romances.
>Says he doesn't care he just wants a job and will keep his head down
>Hire said nephew and he cleans up all the shit code slut does, most of the time I give him the info of what the client wants, he starts working on his own version, scraps code slut's submission for him to review/troubleshoot and submits his own
>Code slut gets employee of the month and everyone praises her even though a FUCKING WHITE MALE was doing all the improvements
This is the world we live in.

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I don't find whats too bad about it if they do this

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>>136612161
they dont discriminate enough

>>136627561
>1/3
craziness. i understand if your employeer requires it, but it seems like a retarded waste of time. if your functions and parameters are make some sense any retard should be able to understand your code without you writing a fucking novel about it.

>>136619593
Because they can't handle the bantz?

>>136629070
If that's what most female programmers are, Then i don't see whats so bad about not hiring degenreates

>>136624403
>apples to oranges comparison a square root approximation to a 'max' function
>no unit tests
>comments
>describes what a 'max' function does, as if we didn't already fucking know
>return 5 if both numbers are equal, a blatant bug
>end of the program, implying a function that calculates max values is the entire program
Oh yeah, it's the airplane software written by GUYS that you need to worry about, sweetie.

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They are literal Nazis who freak out when someone else used their own tactics against them.
Hope they all die of gay AIDS.

>>136629070
>Just another gay communist
If only these young western fucks met actual communists.

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>>136618226
absolutely baby shit right there

>go to university to study software engineering
>about 15-20% of the initial student intake for the technology department is female
>3 years later
>by the end of the course there are only 2 left out of the hundred or so remaining students after all the slackers washed out
I've yet to encounter a female working in a tech role in the 7 years I've been in the industry since graduating. The only thing holding them back is themselves, there is no patriarchal, old boys club, boogie man in the tech industry.

>>136630846
I work with a few competent female programmers. Of course, none of them are from America.

>>136628055
But no one will understand your code! You need more comments explaining your complicated logic.
Additionally, women can't into ternary operators, so your code is actually sexist.

>>136619593
Women come to /pol/ to be on an even playing field with everyone else

>>136612161
Do they ever give concrete examples ?

>>136629617
Savage

>>136624455
> 12+ years full stack web developer
kek

>>136627017
This.

>>136615006
This is like when nigger twitter celebrates a nigger reading.

>>136617284
>be a fat as fuck redditor
>go out of my way to use every reddit symbol instead of greentexting when posting in 4chan

>>136627561
>>136629212
sounds reasonable for VHDL though...
when there's a header comment above a process that describes the inputs and outputs, the overall productiveness will increase, even if you have to spend some time commenting.

>>136629212
vhdl is pretty easy to end up with a mess of retarded and overly concise code.
seems reasonable if your comments actually end up being pretty good size compared to the code.

>>136628055
#define max(a,b) (a > b ? a : b)

is a bit more generic.

>>136629319
> no unit tests
> unit tests
> for a max function

>>136612161
Im a software engineer. I can honestly say women in tech are like that video of dogs driving cars. Sure it's cute, and they physically are capable of doing the task, but they need a person, to guide them every step of the way. A person to do all the real work, and heavy lifting. On the outside people see a girl in tech, but in reality it's just a puppet with a man pulling the strings.

The feminist bullshit gets them in the door faster and easier than male hires, and most company policies make them impossible to fire. They're dead weight. Google themselves even sees this and doesn't pay them as much as men. They're being sued by women because of it.

We need to stop letting dogs think they're driving the car.

>>136612161
WAAAAH, MYSOGYNIST COMPUTERS NOT ACCEPTING MY CUTESY PROGRAMMING LINES FILLED WITH HEART SYMBOLS AND EMOJIS!!

>>136638881
>writing a max function when it's standard in nearly every language library

>>136616216
Underrated

>>136616216
>Women are brainwashed by feminism to view normal shit that everyone goes through as gender-specific.

that's biology not feminism

women have a preference for their own gender, they have a natural affinity

that's why all these Borg women-only events take place

>>136618884
>Either way, the free market will take care of things once again.

Free market corporations can carry the dead weight of 20% useless employees

There's no collapse scenario or collective eureka moment, humans cope and adapt

>>136618718
fuckin saved

>>136612161

When a woman or protected minority class person gets a job and they can't handle it, they act like this. Its a defensive shield against getting fired for being useless.

>>136614925
i understood this reference

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>>136637272
> be worthless anon with nothing to add
> know about reddit formatting because reasons
> mock and jeer only way to justify existence

Women really like the label and identity that comes with 'working in tech.' Women are so fucking vain it's unbelievable. When I get into power not only am I going to make it illegal for every female to work a full time job unless they're ugly and can't find a husband; I'm also going to ban them from using social media.

>>136612161
>systematically
These idiots have no idea what that word even means.

So let's recap:
-A conservative (one person, not a system) posts a conservative memo talking about some basic behavioral differences
-leftists flip out
-fired by the corporate system
-misrepresent him in the media system
-"huuuurrrrrr women are discriminated against systematically"

>>136612161

Think back to your entire childhood, school, the workplace. Are women really devalued? Or are they given special treatment every step of the way?

Yes I'd imagine creating and attempting to sustain a viewpoint that you know is wrong yet at the same time still believe it would be very exhausting.

>>136626271
we need a fucking society reset NOW

>>136641830
>conservative
Not even. This guy was likely a left-leaning moderate but one that was rational enough to realize that diversity for diversity's sake is retarded. I'm sure he'll be conservative as fuck in a couple of years though.

>>136615006
What's with the use of "trash fire"? I've seen this several times in the past few days in response to the diversity memo.

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=trash+fire%2Cgarbage+fire

>>136612161
not once have I seen this happen

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>>136615937
fizzbuzz weeded out half my compsci class freshman year

>>136612161
funny never heard a man talk about being "emotionally exhausted" maybe this is why women suck at their job.

how the FUCK can gender identity politics be an issue in something as concrete as programming.

you're literally just writing code.

that's it.

it should be the most meritocratic profession EVER.

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I am a software engineer at a large company you have definitely heard of.

I'm not in a senior position, but I've been there long enough that I frequently have new employees put under my wing for me to help them get started.

With males its quite simple, I give them a task, and they come to me with questions when they really get stuck.

With females its an entirely different ordeal. Every now and then, some women slip through who don't actually know how to program.... this is pretty rare but it does happen. And it never happens with males curiously.

Assuming they have some basic programming skills, being their mentor essentially becomes a baby sitting job. They will constantly be messaging me asking for little bits of advice. Everything needs my approval, even down to variable naming.

Management "knows" its a problem, but there is literally nothing they can do. Its basically just calculated into the operating costs of a project, that you need to hire x% females for HR to be happy.

>>136612161
If it has the word sistematically the answer is likely no.

I can sense the victimhood but seeing so many of you declaring so surely women in tech are shit and quota fillers, i cannot ignore the 'despite my feats, i have to constantly reprove myself'.
It's not the case that you have accomplished something and wish to feed off its glory for years to come. But because the expectation that woman are bad at coding, their flaws are more easily perceived that the feats. It creates a confirmation bias. With a guy, a fuck up is a fuck up. Fuck up too much you're bad. But a girl, because you believe she must be bad, once she fucks up, "oh, i knew she would be bad".
Imagine a boy that goes to a dancing class. A girl that fucks up a dance, fucks up, there's no further conclusions - the boy that fucks up isn't good. It's like you're already with a low base evaluation, and the first impression lowers it further. Much harder that the other person with no bias.

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>>136612161
Not yet. If I get a job there, fuck oath.

>>136618226
the fuck? Even I know how to do that and my knowledge of coding boils down to basic math and graphing on matlab/octave

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>>136642464
It's only meritocratic in the most difficult and demanding coding jobs.

For the majority of jobs which can be done (albeit badly) by copy/pasting stack overflow examples and stringing together plugins, all the soft skills still matter.

I've been in jobs where we interviewed candidates for 100% coding roles. Managers preferred "team-players" they can mold (brainwash) rather than anyone who knows what they're doing but isn't prone to groupthink.

>>136642580
can you put that into statistics? the situations those quotas produce are humiliating.

>>136642798
Bias is natural and rational when supported by facts. Women being poor at math and programming compared to men is something consistently shown by data. You should expect a girl to have more trouble with programming like you would expect a guy to have more trouble with a nuturing/caring role..

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>>136615006
>technical feats

>>136643265
Yes, i'm saying that exists. There's nothing to do except for women to do their job the best they can. I just think you all too agressively to a position and question that is fair all the same. Why do I have to keep showing proof that I'm good at what i do?

>>136624403
This was proven to be a fake screenshot.

Half the accounts commenting don't exist, one of them has never posted, one is a spambot, three of them (incl. spambot) only posts to Kloss are replies to modeling pics.

Got to say I'm impressed that they at least made an effort to find accounts that had posted to Kloss at all. gr8 b8 m8

>>136643692
Everyone always has to continually prove they know what they are doing.

Men in tech talk about tech. Women in tech talk about women in tech.

>>136612161

Yeah clearly no likes her because she's a woman and not because she's a whiney cunt.

>>136624393

Lurking the thread, just wanted to say cheers for the analysis. Good info.

>136621641

The fact that women make such a small percentage of an engineering program in Sweden of all places really jogs my noggin.

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>>136612161
How do these people not get fired after they start insulting their employers all over social media?

>>136617112
Imagine the douchiest elite trust fund kid you possibly can. Now multiply the positive reinforcement a guy like that gets by 1000. That's the average female existence for you. If I got my dick sucked 300 times a day (validation is like sex for women), I would become a jerk. Imagine going to a bar without a wallet because you know all the girls will kill each other to buy you a drink.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

>>136643922
proofing and just doing your job are different things in an office dynamic.
most people working wherever are OK at it. excelling isn't a common phenomenon.
With that said a woman either is great! or is quota-filler-email-spammer. They do not blend in and for that they either parade their successes and be considered good by their coworkers and employers, they are shit and coworkers endure the burden, or they are OK but are considered shit also.
what i'm saying is,
>fuck quotas
>bias is fact of life
>average woman is seen as bad because of bias
>work hard girls, use the pressure to excel
>things work itself out

>>136645079
whats funny is that this guy's memo has become this self fulfilling prophecy.

Google and its employees respond by being the exact intolerant echo chamber their employee purported them to be.

if (bag.Style == shoes.Style)
&& (butt.View.Size <= bum.View.MaxSize)
{
DoLittleWorkIfCanBeBothered();
}
else
{
TakeExtendedCoffeeBreak();
return;
}

>>136647280
I think this guy is redpilling the shit out of people by doing this. So many people are seeing this and saying 'Wow, he's right you know'.

>>136624403
the left side is a legendary piece of code. this pic is like comparing a 4 year old's playdough sculpture to Michelangelo

>>136617112
You won't find many nice women in big cities, that's for sure. It's in their nature to be catty when surrounded by other females in such a number.

>>136617777
P O O ' D

>>136615006
I'm a guy and think this. I think its just the nature of the fucking business, DESU

>>136612161
They still have no idea why the rules say there are no girls on the internet. Stupid fucking broads never fucking get the easiest shit, double if it's for THEIR FUCKING PROTECTION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I have been a coder, technical team lead and department manager working in large corporate IT development departments for over 30 years. I have worked at over 15 companies in this time as a longer term contractor, working both in male only and male/female teams. All I can say is that I can count the number of good (not excellent but good) female coders on one hand. Most are a complete pain in the butt and the teams that had female coders did not work as effectively or happily. In general I would choose an all male team over a mixed or all female team.

>>136626707
If your code is not well structured and logical that it needs comments, you're doing it wrong.

Also when the code changes, the comments must be updated which almost never happens.

Comments and unit tests are worthless.

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>>136645079
I don't understand it either. I had to sign NDAs at my work. HR would kick my dick in for talking about work related things on social media.

Liberals litterally get away with murder.

>>136627561
maybe there's a reason you're not a hired programmer and just a desk jockey that occasionally codes and thinks he's oh so smart

>>136626271
Good commented code is incredibly important it's just not possible to remember all the code you write. Also it's good for teamwork.

As a female that works in web hosting, I can tell you that most women can't handle the demand. I have seen several women hire in only to quit a few months later.

>>136648668
>good
>commented
Pick one

>>136618718
nigga stole my bike

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>>136612161
The issue only exists in the minds of SJW. The tech industry like sales or any other male dominated industry is by and large a meritocracy. Those that produce quality work will get the promotions and raises. The sad fact of the matter is that women can not compete at the level of men but they have been brainwashed by commie professors to believe in equality.

So they blame their own inadequate nature on men and demand the state to correct this "imbalance." We are entering the late stage of our culture that exists right before it collapses. Well before women destroy society in their quest for "equality" and "diversity" All that remains is for the individual to make their peace with god because I fear we may all be meeting him much sooner then we wish.

>>136648668
In large corporate companies code comments quickly go to shit due to time and resource pressures. The ability to read uncommented/undocumented code and to make changes in matching design and coding standards IS important.

>>136617112
College

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Posted at 937am on a workday...

>>136615006
>tfw I love having to reprove myself despite all i've done
Any other anons with me?

>>136612161
It's not that they discriminate, it's that more men code than women

>>136612161
The industry I chose to work in, devalued experience and the wishes of those they supported. I worked in the care industry, normally a working class occupation which saw the influx of inexperienced managers from the destroyed middle classes who thought it a divine right to manage despite it being a specialised area that requires people to know and understand what good and bad practice is.
I watched as they hired females and gay men some without experience at all, some post graduate all of them lost, and hooked on the notion of making a mark through change to the systems and environment without a thought for those under their care.
I was good as well as very confident at what I did and would challenge this. I was eventually let go.

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>>136612161
They're just cashing in their oppression points because of that google guy who said maybe google should hire people based on merit and not discriminate against white men.

>>136624403
Reminder that Karlie kloss is engaged to jared Kushner's brother.

>>136612161
I imagine it goes something like this.
>she needs to do some shit
>constantly fucks up
>some people have to do work for her
>some angrily comment "this isn't hard" or "come on, this is basic stuff" or something "inappropriate"
>get angry at patriarchy
>MUH DISCRIMINATION

>get hired due to your gender
>get promoted due to your gender
>get your hand held due to your gender
>Why are they devaluing me?!

Literally one of the best parts of being a white male is that you know everything you earned in life you had to work twice or three times as hard that a woman or minority would have to, perhaps even sometimes more.

>>136612161
One cannot expect a woman to do well at being logical. Code doesn't feel.

>>136614925
I can code circles around her. Fuck her. Working on automating her job anyway. Fuck off.

>>136630846
I had the same experience. By the time I finished my BS, there were only half a dozen or so left of the original 40ish people. Of the original group, 4 were women. The only one left standing was the token asian girl.

>>136650872
>automating modeling
I like where your head is at

>>136627017
This is actually completely true.
It's the man's duty to lead and make sure women know their place. Feminism is just a mass-scale shit test for our entire gender, and we're failing.

This isn't exactly relevant, but it happened to me in college.
>See a poster for a seminar about a mind reading helmet
neat, I'll go check that out
>get there, woman CEO comes on stage
>she reads a slide show word for word about the product
>time for a demonstration
>the demo is moving a virtual ball up and down based on your thoughts
>I've completely lost interest by this point
>she can't figure out how to turn the thing on
>two more wymen come onstage to help her
>they finally get it turned on
>doesn't work at all, the ball just sits there on the screen
>they eventually give up and leave
maybe she didn't have any brain waves to read

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>>136618994
the response was about the psychotic women bleeding all over their keyboards because they didn't actually read the memo and instead saw vox screaming muhsoginy

>>136625372
>yeah the answer is 5
>5 WHAT
>just 5 man

Reminds me of the soup Code Geass webm

>>136612161
Maybe if you spent a little more time worrying about how to write better code instead of whether you have internal or external plumbing, you might be valued a little more...

>>136620831
they mean
>i am highly emotional and everyone is against me
>it must be directed, intentional action
>it must be a system
>lol that's what i'd do, i'm a woman

Really thankful haven't experienced any sjw disease at workplace as near as I can tell. The couple of women there have been either artists or support personnel, but to my experience, they've been skilled in their fields and hired on merit. The engineer team though is all white, middle Eastern, or Asian dudes. No drama flare ups, people there work together.

Most people there stay out of politics, aside from one guy there, which I get into minor bants with. Didn't get fired for voting trump.

I dread the day that blue haired genderspecials show up to ruin it all

>>136625803
Over 40 years in the business and I have only seen 4 good female coders, and they were japs.

>>136623787
>11 years of depression
i guess she realized he was right

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>>136612161
No

>>136626873
>Commented code can't speak for itself therefore sucks.
entry level java pleb detected

>>136615006
I dropped out of the corporate race to be a pipe welder. Figure might as well do a little labor while I'm young enough, discovered that the pay is ridiculous, the hours are just right, and it's a pretty comfy life, even now when oil is down (a good welder is always needed). Anyway, literally every job I bid, I have to pass a welding test for. Every single one. I've got four years of awesome references and never had one weld fail inspection, but every job I have to show up and show my potential clients that I can make a good weld, and that's the way it'll be as long as I do this job.

You only worry about "proving yourself" if you don't have the skills to actually prove yourself.

>>136638159
#define max(a,b) ((a)>(b)?(a):(b))

don't waste bytes on whitespace while leaking expressions through the preprocessor you absolute fucking script kiddies.

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>>136614925
Amazing programmer this Karlie

>>136648187
ty 4 ur service

>>136619709
This graph is the google memo in a nutshell