/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

>>136610149
bump.
fuck commies and nazis

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>be communism general spics over a year ago
>Shill for communism
>Become laughing stock of /pol/ and effectively anti communist meme general

>Be me
>Create /lrg/
>Become epicenter of genuine political and philosophical debate on /pol/

Feels good to know we will always hate communism here and that /pol/ will become AnCap in 2 years, purge libertine subversives and bring a new era of liberty to the mainstream.

Hail /lrg/ my friends.

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"socially liberal" is a meme.

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Totalitarianism is the end goal of every socialist state.

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"natural order" refers to the state of humanity before statism. Totalitarians, socialists, and national socialists can never be considered to be promoters of traditionalism, natural law or right wing ideologies.

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Civil "rights" were a mistake. The only real rights are your right to life and property.

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Forcibly opening the central state to all who seek to rape the land is a far greater aggression than excluding those people from the nation.

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>>136613699
This must be new, good one.

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Reporting in for CHAD NATIONALISM!

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>>136614308
A I R B O U R N E
L O C K E R
2 K 1 7

I simply can't wrap my head around how ancaps are going to make companies do the sort of shit they expect them to without becoming slaves. Can someone explain?

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>>136615268
>ancaps are going to make companies do the sort of shit they expect them to
It's called "demand", if someone wants something done and is willing to pay for it then a company will come in to fulfill that demand.

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Don't be a classcuck by becoming a neo-feudalist 'an'cap. Read up on real libertarianism. Anarchism has always been about the elimination of coercive hierarchy and authority, and the two most prominent things in society that cause this are the state and capitalism.

>Introduction to Anarchism
https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf

>The Anarchist FAQ
http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA

>Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism?
http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF

>Anarcho-'Capitalism' is impossible.
https://c4ss.org/content/4043

>What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen

>The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

>Markets not capitalism
http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf

>>136615575
>the freedom to exchange goods for services is actually a tool of coercion!

You tried and failed

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>>136615575
Antifa pls go. You commies are the problem. You'll have to be physically removed.

anyone going to the PFS meeting next month?

>>136616725
I heard one or two in the group might be going.

>>136615268
Freedom of competition. If you offer slavery, you'll lose to someone who doesn't.
With that being said, some people will have to die first.

>>136610149
Stalin and Mao did nothing wrong

>>136617452
Stalin and Mao were state capitalists.

>>136618133
Aside from that

>>136618133

'State Capitalism' is just a term you idiots coined to walk away scot-free from your idiotic experiments.

It's like a doomsday preacher going on and stating that the End of Days will come on a different date, after a previous prediction, as usual, doesn't pan out.

>>136618564
>>136618133
>>136617452
>state capitalism
>Implying capitalism exists without the state.
I agree.

You commies are busted. Even when you try to create socialism you end up with shitty over regulated nationalized capitalism.

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I'm trying to work my way through pic related but i can't find a pdf of "against the state" does anyone have a link?

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>>136610149

3 most important values that helped emerge a capitalistic system:

>Thrift
>Investing
>Time management

These 3 values need a set of institution in order for a country to flourish and generate wealth.

Countries with these values and no institutions will fail.

Countries without these values but with these institutions will fail.

read:

http://classes.maxwell.syr.edu/hst347/bellculturalcontradictions.pdf

Thank me later.

>>136619215
>means of production owned by the state
>wage labor, production for exchange and currency still exist.
>bosses are replaced by bureaucrats.

I'm currently reading Anarchy, State and Utopia. What are your thoughts on the book fellow libertarians?

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>>136617452
>>136618133
>>136618564
You guys remind me of pic related. It's always funny to see socialists argue with each other about what is and and isn't "real socialism".

>>136620647
number 2 please

>>136620647
#2 and #3

>>136610149
How do Ancaps prevent the formation of cosmopolitan international banking secret societies like the round table group?

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Have any of you convinced friends or family of the prefarability of anarcho-capitalism over the state, or that the transition from monarchy to democracy was not beneficial for humanity?

>>136622486
I have a friend who's almost there. He just needs to let go of his love for democracy.

>>136621764
Ending the Federal Reserve, courts of arbitration recognising fractional reserve banking as fraud, among other things.

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You can stop worrying about thinking, it's been irrefutably proven just a few hours ago that ancap is the way

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I'm reading Hoppe's DTGTF and I could use a little help with some terminology. I get Time Preference, but I could use some clarification what Hoppe means when he refers to the Rate of Time Preference and Time Preference Schedule.

>>136623266
Confirmed, the sixes are consecutive

>>136610149
A libertarian society could work, but no shitskins or kikes

>> But Muh Murrays and Friedmans

Yeah most are not like them, they're outliers

>>136624712
Which would happen on it's own as people disassociate from the groups they do not feel comfortable living with. It's been shown many times that trust is nearly twice as high among ethnic groups than it is among multicultural ones. If society is allowed to naturally develop without a state apparatus to force integration, then you will undoubtedly see ethnic communities or very limited integration (probably the Murray's and Friedmans only)

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>>136623290
Think of it like a supply curve. In fact, your time preference schedule kind of is your supply curve for time. It would slope upward. The more the payoff, the longer you're willing to wait for it. The higher the "price" for your waiting, the more waiting you're willing to "sell."

Quantity supplied = point on line.
Supply curve = line itself.

Likewise

Rate of time preference = point on line.
Time preference schedule = line itself.

>>136624712
Who says I'm against racial segregation and secession?

>>136610149

How can we incorporate more based black guys into our based movement, my fellow based liberty lovers?

>>136625820
when they stop being niggers

>>136625346
Gotcha, so an individual's time preference schedule refers to their expectation of good received given time "spent."

So I'm a firm believer in capitalism, nationalism, and liberty but I've got a question. Why is it that many think democracy is incompatible with a libertarian society? I understand the idea that people can use democracy as a means of legitimizing wanting to steal from those richer than them, but out of all other forms of government I'm well read on I fail to see how any other is better suited for preventing abuse by the state. It's a flawed system but I fail to see what is better.

>>136626024

they do that because of welfare and liberals are the real racist... you statist.. unbased of you

>>136626376
most people would argue that democracy is a tyranny of the masses and is incompatible with absolute liberty like that proposed in a libertarian society. Additionally, what people would call a "democracy" in the case of non direct democracies aren't actually legitimate, the people simply democratically elect ruler representative

>>136626376
Under democracy, as opposed to monarchy, leaders are temporary caretakers, rather than proprietors, in regards to the government. As such, they tend not to care about the future value of the government, instead taxing as much as they can, and spending as much as they wish, since it's not their money, and going further into debt they will never have to repay. HHH explains it better than me.

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>>136625820
when they say "discrimination is totally cool and property rights trump feefees, it is a priori certain"
>>136626164
precisely

Speaking of time preference, starting pic related now. Book explains class structure in terms of future-orientation vs. present orientation. First heard of it in footnote to DTGTF.