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Australian same sex marriage postal vote at a cost of 122 million

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They'll arrive in your mail soon aus/pol/s. Cost of the "non-binding" postal vote is 122 million dollars.

How do you plan to vote aus/pol/?
Since it's a "non-binding" poll, what will you do if it's a 70% NO but they still pass it?
If it's "non-binding" why spend fucking 122 million on it?

https://archive.fo/Qt6Am
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>>136568615
>How do you plan to vote aus/pol/?

No
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>>136568615
I am voting NO to fag marriage. I would have voted no for female suffrage too.
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>>136568615
It's not going to happen. The High Court will block it for being unconstitutional.
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>>136568899
>The High Court will block it for being unconstitutional.
Source?
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Seems cheap next to 50b worth in outdated submarines
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>>136568987
http://www.s m h.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/postal-plebiscite-a-stretch-and-will-face-high-court-challenge-warn-experts-20170808-gxs029.html
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>>136568615
jesus christ they're ugly.
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>>136569089
>http://www.s m h.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/postal-plebiscite-a-stretch-and-will-face-high-court-challenge-warn-experts-20170808-gxs029.html

https://archive.is/nwMo6

If it was going to be rejected, why did they propose it? They must've known it would be rejected by the high court.
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>>136569081
Put the 122m for new roads or something
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Does anyone actually know how this postal plebiscite would work?
Surely it can't be anonymous otherwise you could just photocopy the ballot paper and send in thousands of them.
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democracy was a fucking mistake
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>>136569399

Each one probably has a unique code if you don't need to put a name down.
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>>136569276
Because they're trying everything they can to stop a parliamentary vote, so it's worth a shot.

A few years ago the ACT legalised gay marriage even though it was obvious it would be struck down by the High Court.
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>>136569399
Also, what's stopping someone from voting on behalf of multiple people in their household?
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>>136569500
they linked to the census, even if its "anonymouse" its not anonemus
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>>136568615
Is that transgender abbo?
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>>136568615
Voting NO. Also the money is coming from cash on hand at the ABS. My question is why does a government agency have so much cash on hand
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There's literally nothing wrong with being gay
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>>136568615
No vote here.
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>>136569774
>Is that transgender abbo?
Yes.
https://archive.is/ZEIUZ
The Sistergirls of Tiwi Islands: How a remote community in northern Australia has the highest population of transgender people in the country - including children as young as six

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3213735/The-Sistergirls-Tiwi-Islands-remote-community-northern-Australia-highest-population-transgender-people-country-including-children-young-six.html
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Strewth!! That Abbo is looking fine!
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>>136568615
This shouldn't even be a conversation, frankly. We have people in poverty and all everyone cares about is this? Freedom was a mistake.
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>>136568615

vote no
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>>136569926
I've got gay cancer. I'm going to die, and so are you.
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>>136568812
this
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>>136569926
That's not really the issue here, though. The issue is gay marriage, not whether it's okay to be gay or not.
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>>136570016
Fuck I hate they change the copy text to include their own link, I just copy/pasted the title, it added the link itself.
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>>136569500
If that is the way they do it I think I might have to vote no on my proper form, but then photoshop one up with a different code and send in a few hundred yes votes with the exact same number. Then I can leak to the media that during counting it was found that there was major fraud taking place by the yes campaign, and if the investigate it they will find that it is true...... pity it would never make the news though since our media is cucked as fuck.
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>>136568615
>>136569642
Happening. China and India are about to fight!
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>>136569926
Fuck off subhuman.
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>>136568615
>122 million
That's like 10 bucks per voter, who's lining their pockets here?
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>>136569926
I agree as long as it doesn't harm anyone but I'd vote a yes a few years ago, now a definite no, I'm sick of the left pushing this down our throats that we have to agree to it.
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>>136570231
>Yes
Why?
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>>136569926
You're not normal and you never will be. Keep that disgusting shit in the privacy of your own damn home and stop parading it around in public like it's normal because it's not.
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>>136570271
The damage has been done already. I put on play school for my kid, and they're reading this book...and in this book there's a line where they say "some kids have two mums and some have two dads". I'm going to have enough trouble attempting to explain the birds and bees to my kid let alone all that. Can't they just leave well enough alone? I'm weary of this.
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Just let the gays get married, who gives a fuck. We shouldn't even have to vote on it, they should have just saved the money and made it legal.
It's going to happen eventually.
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where do normies get all this fucking weed from? do they just need friends to get it? I don't have any friends
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122 million Ozzie buckaroos = 20 bucks = 0.2 euro cents
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>>136570464
>being a defeatist
What do you stand for, if you stand for nothing?
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>>136570557

that's not how this works europoor
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What will they want legalised after gay marriage /pol/?
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>>136571000
"polyamory"
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>>136571000

Recognising abos as human.
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>>136571000
Probably vaping
Weed
Opinions
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I'm voting 'NO' just like on that lowd. com .au poll thing last night
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>>136571000
I guarantee within a decade they will be campaigning to fuck your pets and children.
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>>136571109
Quick rundown on the results from last night? Did it get shut down?
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>>136568615
I'll write your eulogy if you write ours Australia.

>>136571000
After trans bullshit? Polyamory, lowered age of consent and incest.
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http://www.aec.gov.au/Elections/Australian_Electoral_History/Cost_of_Election_1901_Present.htm

>A fucking postal vote will cost nearly as much as an average federal election

And yet, the same conservatard morons who support this plebiscite are the first to jump up and down about how this country is in a "budget emergency".
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>>136571169
I heard on the news this morning that 'they were forced to pull the poll due to fierce comments'
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>>136571083
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>>136570343

Because the freedom to marry should be granted to same-sex couples. Their marriage doesn't harm me

I don't object to gay marriage any more than I object to hetero marriage
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Vote 'no', lads.
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>>136571444
False. This changes everything as it lumps fags in with normal marriage. Everyone who is married and will be married will be associated with them which is just plain unfair.
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>>136571284
Or they could just forget about equal rights for something that does not exist in the first place. Forget about it altogether....just a thought.
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>>136568615
The polls are a False Consensus building exercise because they know majority of Aussies don't want fag marriage.
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>>136571865
I don't know if you were here for the earlier thread, but a poll was on news.com.au, and it was so shamelessly rigged it was quite pathetic.
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>>136568615
>non binding non compulsory vote
Really aggravates my agate.
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>>136572051
>news.com.au
Literally goodgoyim.com.au
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>>136570423
public school?
>I put on play school for my kid, and they're reading this book
govnmt approved or school aprooved?
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>>136570271
Yeah br0, only function in reaction it's definitely not a permanent perpetuated evil at all!
Fucking leddit babby.
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>>136572228
Agreed, I only went there to vote on the poll
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Looks like im voting no
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Pointless vote this but still voting no.

Poofters and other mentally ill cunts cannot be given any breathing space if we are to remain a functional, orderly society

These degenerates will take a mile if given an inch.
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>>136568615
Why the fuck are u wasting so much money on a non-binding vote u fucking spineless twerp piece of shit.
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>>136572386
Exactly. Even if you don't care/are apathetic to the issue this is simply a case of give an inch, take a mile. Once they get their way this time there will be no limits to what they won't push because "the precedent has been set". Everything that desegregates a society is what they'll push for next.
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is this the official aus/pol/ for tonight?

anyway, i couldnt care less what gays and lesbians do, and as the bill states, celebrants and business people still keep their religious liberties, allowing for them to refuse service to these individuals

i havent read the article, is it compulsory? im tempted to vote it down if it means i get to see the upstanding citizens of melbourne cry on national tv for a day and possibly for the rest of the year
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>>136568615
>spend 170 million on a plebiscite and settle the matter
or
>spend 122 million on a postal vote that will 100% be thrown out
I really fucking hate my government because I know that the postal vote is going to happen.
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>tfw my gf wants to vote 'yes' because it's "the nice thing to do"
wat do lads
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>>136572878
dump her
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>>136572247
No, the ABC kids TV show Playschool that has been around 4ever. Really brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "there's a bear in there".
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>>136572878
be a man and vote for her.

soften the blow by buying her flowers and opening doors etc.
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>>136572878
>Perpetuating mental illness, paedophilia, the generation and spreading of viruses, broken relationships, corrupting the natural order, promoting propaganda, promoting promiscuity, promoting miscegenation.
Maybe you should tell her to kill herself?
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>>136568615
I'm voting no. Homos are degenerate and are contributing to the downfall of civilisation.

Would vote yes to roping them all.
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It looks like we are going to throw a bunch of money at bullshit. Fuck it, gays end up being able to marry, 8 gays get married, now what?
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>>136572801
Yeah but thats the whole point of this is to abolish any form of Christianity ...this means within months gay activists will head to the nearest church and demand to be married when the church exercise their christian beliefs they will be sued.
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>>136573109
The only gays that will get married will end up being lesbians.
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>>136572878
Teach her the error of her ways.
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also, does anyone here work FIFO in the resources sector? like in a remote town somewhere in WA / QLD?
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>>136572979
A bit extreme there m8

>>136573028
Dunno if that's possible

>>136573064
Women don't respond to rational arguments, and she won't appreciate me telling her that, especially since she has western-white-girl """""anxiety"""""

>>136573202
See above
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>>136570016
Don't abbo's have a history of that kind of shit though?
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>>136573238
Then just tell her you don't support it.
If she keeps asking why then either be frank or don't tell her.
No point lying over a foundational value about the purpose and existence of humans.
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>>136573177
My grandma is a lesbian in Tasmania and complained about having to even declare her relationship to centrelink
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>>136568615

Let them get married, then family courts, lawyers can make millions of dollars with divorces.
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I'm sorry lads, my local news sold out
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>>136573339
Seems all I can do, ta m8
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>people voting no to get congratulatory circlejerks from 4chan closeted fags
Wew no irony here boys
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>>136573367
I sure like unbiased objective journalism
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>>136568615
>compulsory vote plebiscite happens
>probably would pass as the apathetic sector of soceiety (the ones that dont care, a big chunk of society) vote for it.

>non-compulsory postal vote happens
>probably will fail as apathetic voters wouldn't be bothered taking part.

This shields us from the cucking lads, i reckon
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>>136573238
Women like strong men. If you stand up and explain your thought process she'll respect you for it.
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>>136573367
I thought Darwin had been nuked(WW2 style) and that's why I hadn't seen NT headlines
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>>136573367
>even based nt news has been ((()))
dammit
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>>136573365
>t. Shlomo Goldbergstein
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>>136568615
voting yes to gay marriage would be one step towards a more progressive society. A more progressive society by extension would benefit non-anglos like myself.

Therefore it is only logical for me to vote yes
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>>136573712
>non-anglos like myself.
poo?
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>>136573533
They're owned by Murdoch, of course they've been ((()))
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>>136573791
>>136573712
DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT
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>>136573712
>If this state becomes more like my thirdworld shithole then I can reap all the benefits of my thirdworld shithole.
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>>136573791
Pic
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>>136573967
arent you a neetmaster that lives in sydney? whats the purpose of having your blacks?

also what does the condition S mean?
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1. Don't vote in favor of it, it won't "stop the bickering." It will only shift their attention unto more insane tranny shit and pedophilia, this is what happened in america.

2. What the fuck is a "postal vote", can you only mail in your vote? Is there an in person voting option? Voting by mail is basically completely optional in the US and is not preferred.
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Among the general class of male sexual deviants (both homosexual and heterosexual), pederasts (boy molesters) are found to be much more prolific in their offenses than pedophiles (girl molesters). The most extensive study performed on the relative degree of predatory behavior of these two classes of male sexual deviants found that 153 pederasts sexually molested 22,981 boys over an average period of 22 years, while 224 pedophiles molested 4,435 girls over an average period of 18 years. This means that each pederast molested an average of 150 boys, and each pedophile molested an average of 20 girls—a ratio of 7.5 to one.

Source: Paul Cameron. “Homosexual Molestation of Children/Sexual Interaction of Teacher and Pupil.” Psychological Reports, 1985, 57, pages 1,227 to 1,236.

Gays are pedophiles and sexual predators. A vote for gay marriage is a vote for pedophilia.
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you have all taken the bait and are going to let this chink cunt ruin another thread.
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In a 1992 study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson found that homosexual males are three times more likely than straight men to engage in pedophilia, and that the average pedophile victimizes between 20 and 150 boys before being arrested.

Source: K. Freund & R.I. Watson. “The Proportions of Heterosexual and Homosexual Pedophiles Among Sex Offenders Against Children: An Exploratory Study.” 18 34, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy 34-43 (1992).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756
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Homosexual activists Karla Jay and I Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay Report that 73% of all homosexuals I have acted as "chicken hawks" — that is, they have preyed on adolescent or younger boys.

Source: Homosexual activists Karla Jay and Allen Young. The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out About Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles [Simon and Schuster, 1979], page 275.
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In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy article, sex researchers found that "The proportional prevalence of [male] offenders against male children in this group of 457 offenders against children was 36 percent."

Source: K. Freund, G. Heasman, I.G. Racansky, and G. Glancy. “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality.” Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, Fall 1984 [Volume 10, Number 3], pages 193 to 200.
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A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.

Source: W.D. Erickson, et al. “Behavior Patterns of Child Molesters.” 17 Archives of Sexual Behavior 77, 83 (1988).
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>>136568615
I honestly don't give a shit. There is so many other areas of priority over gay marriage. Call it anecdotal evidence or whatever but I've had a few fag friends over the years, they weren't sick queens or faggots just people who liked fucking other men in the privacy of their own home. They never once molested me and they have morals. I just don't care. We have an entire generation of new voters, and soon to be voters, that have been raised on Facebook and Tinder. If you sat down and thought "I want to devise a method of making an entire generation shallow narcissists", you couldn't do much better than social media. Millennia of traditional social interaction just thrown out and replaced. I think the gay pride shit queers get up to like dancing in a leather thong in front of kids is fucked up and they should be shunned. Same as straight couples who maul at each others faces in front of kids, or a single mother who has 20 "male visitors" come round in front of their kids then the door shuts and the music goes up. Its all fucked up. If you are faced with a load of problems, you need to prioritize them in order of most urgent. Fags getting married I don't care about. That being said, it is beneficial to any kid to have both a male and female role model in their lives, and to observe healthy interactions between those two. A kid who grows up watching his mother get bashed by the father is going to be screwed in the head. Kids in same sex households is another ballpark, but two fags getting married, I don't give a shit. Am I wrong?
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A 1989 study in the Journal of Sex Research noted that " . . . the proportion of sex offenders against male children among homosexual men is substantially larger than the proportion of sex offenders against female children among heterosexual men . . . the development of pedophilia is more closely linked with homosexuality than with heterosexuality."

Source: Kurt Freund, Robin Watson and Douglas Rienzo. “Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference.” Journal of Sex Research, February 1989 [Volume 26, Number 1], pages 107 to 117.
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Yet another recent study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "Pedophilia appears to have a greater than chance association with two other statistically infrequent phenomena. The first of these is homosexuality . . . Recent surveys estimate the prevalence of homosexuality, among men attracted to adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In contrast, the prevalence of homosexuality among pedophiles may be as high as 30-40%."

Source: Ray Blanchard, et. al. “Pedophiles: Mental Retardation, Maternal Age, and Sexual Orientation.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, Volume 28, Number 2, pages 111 to 127.
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>>136574187
The blacks hides my crucial details which prevents potential identity fraud.

S = spectacles = glasses/contacts = i need to be wearing correctives lenses while driving i.e. Glasses or comtact lenses
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Another 2000 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that". . . all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories" for sexual activity;' These age categories were fifteen and twenty years old.

Source: A. Zebulon, Z.A. Silverthorne and Vernon L. Quinsey. “Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, February 2000 [Volume 29, Number 1], pages 67 to 76.
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>>136568615
voting no for teh ebin lulz
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A very recent (2000) study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that "The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2-4% of men attracted to adults prefer men. In contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted to children prefer boys. Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 620 times higher among pedophiles."

Source: Ray Blanchard, et al. “Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles.” Archives of Sexual Behavior, Volume 29, Number 5 (2000), pages 463 to 478.
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>>136572801
That's the problem though, you can't cede ground to these cunts. The moment you give an inch they're gonna take a mile of dicks
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Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent sexual researcher in the history of sexual research, found in 1948 that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old.

Source: Alfred Kinsey data described in P.H. Gebhard and A.B. Johnson. The Kinsey Data. Saunders Publishing, 1979 Table 443, “Homosexual Sample: Age at First Post pubertal Homosexual Contact,” and Table 444, “Homosexual Sample: Age of Partner in First Postpubertal Homosexual Contact.”
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Pedophiles are now trying to call themselves "born that way" too.

"Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals" Published Friday, August 02, 2013

Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits.

“Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen.

However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago by referring to pedophiles as “minor-attracted people.”
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Lesbian Activist’s Surprisingly Candid Speech: Gay Marriage Fight Is a ‘Lie’ to Destroy Marriage

Gessen shared her views on the subject and very specifically stated;

* “Gay marriage is a lie.”
* “Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there.”
* “It’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist.” (This statement is met with very loud applause.)

As mentioned above, Gessen also talked about redefining the traditional family. This may have something to do with the fact that she has “three children with five parents”:

“I don’t see why they (her children) shouldn’t have five parents legally. I don’t see why we should choose two of those parents and make them a sanctioned couple.”

>http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/29/lesbian-activists-surprisingly-candid-speech-gay-marriage-fight-is-a-lie-to-destroy-marriage/
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>>136568615
If their faces are deformed and neanderhtalic, are their genitals also weird and ancient AF? What does our proto-dick look like.
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>>136574433
>>136574731
Can you answer my question? I want feedback on this. You seem motivated, tell me why I should give a shit?
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Quick do this poll from Fordo
>https://twitter.com/BenFordham
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>>136571299
article?

Can't find it on google :(
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>>136568615
I mean, what's the big deal with not letting two consenting adults marry because of a facet of their own being?
I mean, unless you vote yes, this issue is never going to stop coming up and our useless government is just going to keep spending more money and time on trivial fucking plebiscites instead of shit that matters.
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>>136568615
am voting no to fag marriage.
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I am going to chuck the ballot in the bin because i dont care. Its a huge waste of money and ultimately pointless because the alp will get in power eventually and just pass it anyway regardless of the result.

Lets ignore the fact it becomes a binding vote in the alp in two parliaments time (so in 6 years its support gay marriage or get kicked out of labor) right now only like 4 labor mps dont support gay marriage and the pro gay marriage liberals will feel empowered to cross the floor in opposition.

Turnbull really should just say we (the liberals) dont support gay marriage end of story. What a waste of taxpayer funds.
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>>136572812
Senate keeps blocking plebiscite.
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>>136574789
It's up to you if you want to care about this, doesn't matter to me either way
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>>136570344
this
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>>136572878
fuck her up the arse until she comes to her senses
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>>136574789
If you let them destroy marriage and the nuclear family, Australia's going to become like America.
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>>136569926
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Half of the people ITT aren't old enough to take part in this vote anyway
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>>136572559
fucking Malcolm Turnbull being pushed into this by a coiple of faggot Liberal Party MP's.
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>>136570233
but look how they handprinted each and every envelope with their cute abo trans hands, you are a bigot for questioning the 122gorillion costs!
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>>136574924
marriage isn't about proving who you love
marriage is about protecting the only kind of union in which two biological parents make a concerted effort to care for the shared children of their union
this is why the government has an interest in the definition of marriage. if it was just about saying "I love john" or "I love jane" then we wouldn't need the government to have anything to do with it
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>>136574487
no lol blacks = full licence. i know why you cover up your details
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>>136575205

I can understand why one of the surprising number of fag mps in the liberals want it but what about entsch supporting gay rights because a tranny once turned him on.

That is the most ridiculous story ive ever heard
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>>136575205
(((Liberals)))
There's next to no conservative/right wing parties left unless there's a major uprising inside the Libs.
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>>136571444
Waste of trips. Do you condone marriage between animals and humans too because it doesn't harm you either?
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>>136575150
Look at the foundations for most straight marriages in today's modern couples. Can you imagine family photo night in 40 years time when today's kids are grandparents? Well this is the selfie I met your mother with. We both swiped left. Here's a lovely hi-res picture of me spitting in your grandmothers mouth while I flipped the bird at my camera phone. Gay marriage doesn't seem to be the problem, its the people in general. If gays got rid of the whole rebellious thing of Mardi Gras, and walking in public with fishnets and a strap on and just acted normal, what would be the problem? There are so many more general problems with society, fags have always been there.
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>>136575333
Marriage is an obsolete concept. Marriage used to exist for religious and economic reasons. Now people just use it as another form of social status.

Give the gays their marriage. It is inevitable. This $122million abs survey will be interesting
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>>136574433
just ky u massive closet faggot
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>>136575178

was he talking to Trowa and Quatre here, I had always suspected.
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>>136575365
Im not sure what you're trying to say but yes it's a full licence.
This is a learnes licence
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>>136573238
uhm ... just tell her what you think. i dunno m8 but i got my wife and she literally told me a week ago: "yeah well, I am gonna vote the same as you. After all you know more about it and know what is best, i am gonna trust in you"
...
get a better girl or just educate her all day.
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>>136575501
>Marriage is an obsolete concept.
I couldn't possibly gas you enough, kike.
You've given zero reason to justify allowing sodomite cancer the honour and privilege of the sacrament of union.
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Take the SSM poll on Ben Fordhams twitter.

https://twitter.com/BenFordham
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>>136569926
Literally nothing different between being Gay and every other degenerate fetish out there, you just don't get special rights and parades for liking feet or being a furry.
Yet...
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>>136571000
Abortion if you don't actually have it legalized. Then animal marriage and animal abortion ban. Then pedophilia.
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>>136573365
>>136573626
but you know ... if you cannot spot em, just make em pay. they have statistically no urge to stay long with their partners ... that's gonna fuck em up for good
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>>136575706
Good goy, keep being a cuck and letting women trample all over you
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>>136568615
PSA to watch in entirety if you even think of voting yes for a second - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiqtFAKQHlk
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>>136575814
Based Pastor Anderson
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>>136575706
I have no reason other than saying gay marriage is a near inevitability. Personally this does not affect me enough to be against it. But i will be for it just to get it out of the way
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>>136575799
Quality projection pom.
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>>136568615
Voting no for fag marriage because it is all over my telly and jokebook newsfeed, and I can't tell people that I don't give a shit without being called a homophobic and losing my job.

Either way fag marriage will get through because the feelings of poofders are more important than the response to what the majority of Australians really think.

And so, I have to come to pol for the first time in a year to shitpost this.

They'll probably use the voting data to carry out a sort of ethnic cleansing once the fags get in to power so I hopefully won't be around much longer either way.
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>>136570271
same. No spite vote from me . I'm sick of pointless votes in this country
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>>136569600
and what's stopping me from stealing people's mail and voting correctly in order to rebuke this filth.
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>>136575375
lol @ supporting gay rights be cause a tranny turned someone on..lol, just lol
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>>136575908
>majority says no
We dont know that yet until the abs survey
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>>136575879
>Get it out of the way
For what? You know nothing is coming other than the next poz fad, more selling out and more cancer, more brownskins, less white children, more disease, more war, more depression, more drug abuse, lower living standards, more jewish marxist garbage.
How the fuck are you still blind to the notion of 'give an inch and take a mile'? It's been happening for decades you inept faggot. There is nothing left to conserve because it's all gone.
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>>13657587geez, do u let women peg you with strap-on's just so you can get it out of the way as well???
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>>136575879
>get it out of the way
And then what. You know damn well it doesn't stop there. We'll have two weeks of constant barrage of media rubbing our faces in it. Constant calls of how old marriage is dead and everyone against it are dinosaurs etc etc...

Then give it a month or two and what do you know, they'll have their new minority group that is being oppressed and needs the laws and rights of everyone changed to pander to them.
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>>136575814
>They don't care what the truth is, they have a bias or agenda
>They just wanna believe what they wanna believe
>You can't do anything for people like that
wewlad
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>>136576057
the (((abs survey))) fucking hell, that thing will be skewed to support the fags.
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since most of you seem to be applying the slippery slope argument, how do you go about convincing normies without being fallacious?
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>>136575955

To defend the fags they dont want this vote either (scared they might lose) this is Turnbull being too much of a pussy to deal with 5 or so benders and a tranny fetishist in his party.

Also he himself supports gay marriage.

I mean spite vote because it would be funny but direct your rage at the pussy in chief prime minister
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>>136576211
That's what the poll is in the article. It's a nationwide abs survey
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>>136576166
Im not anglo. A more progressive society will benefit me by extension
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>>136576234
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no .......first the homo's then the transgender sickness then the pedo's
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>>136571444
"Doesn't harm me"

You live in a society, faggot. A society is the sum total of its law, culture and people. Rampant degeneracy fucks society, so it does harm you.
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>>136575501
>marriage is obsolete
>marriage is so important we should redefine it to encompass same-sex unions
pick one
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>>136576370
see >>136573959 you fucking gook.
You receive nothing from any change.
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>>136576456
Marriage is obsolete. So you may as well just give it to the gays.
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>>136576370
Then fuck off, you aren't welcome here. Oh and guess what, you won't benefit at all once the gibs dry up.
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>>136568615
I will be voting yes. I know that's very politically incorrect of me to admit in a place like this but I have no problem with gays being legally allowed to marry. Plus I'm sick to fucking death of having to hear about gay marriage on the news. Just make it legal so we never have to hear about it ever again. Plus making gay marriage legal will piss the muslims off which will make me happy.
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>>136576543
marriage is obsolete, so you may as well just leave it the fuck alone
this argument works much better
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>>136568615
I have no problem with it but will vote no because it's a forced meme and I will also campaign on the issue of aids/medicare
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>>136576458
Gay marriage is one step closer towards a more progressive society. A more progressive society will by extension benefit me in the future to come.

At the very least. I set to incur potential future loss by seeing gay marriage denied.

What im say is the more leftist a society is the better it will be by extension for a non-anglo like myself
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>>136576543
>So you may as well
So no argument.
Gas yourself sodomite.
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>>136576597
>when
Okay. Here's to hoping
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Will there be anything preventing two straight men 'marrying' each other for tax benefits?
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>>136576185
Here's another excellent resource
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbSM_kxpObc
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>>136576690
Extrapolate
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I'm voting yes, for the Alt-Right is more malignant than its opposition because it has correct views on race yet it utterly squanders this with crooked leaders and intellectual cowardice.
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>>136576706
>>136576633
Marriage has little significance. So you may as well let the gays have it so the country can move onto actual issues
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This non-issue is a convenient distraction from the housing bubble.
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>>136576771
same sex de facto couples here can already put each other on their tax returns
there is pretty much no financial or legal benefit which applies only to married couples
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>>136576850
Again, see >>136576166 & >>136576083
Your shitposting doesn't even warrant me getting mad or actually typing anything.
Piss poor effort, see me after school.
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Should flogging shitcunt kids be brought back to schools?
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>>136576850
if marriage is such a non-issue, why don't we just move on to actual issues without spending any money or wasting any time changing anything at all?
tell those calling for changing the definition of marriage that they should just move on to more productive discussions
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>implying you're not neet
>implying you shouldn't go for a walk on delivery day to collect some mail and help fill out some forms to save them the bother of voting no
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>>136571083
I thought that already happened in the seventies.
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>>136576999
Yes, but it'll never happen
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>>136576821
Ive extrapolated all i already can. The short of it is that a more leftist and progressive society will be beneficial to non-anglos like myself. Gay marriage itself doesnt benefit me but gay marriage means a more progressive society and so by extension gay marriage sends a message that "we are more progressive now" so then perhaps it would encourage and motivate other minority geoups to fight for a piece of extra privilege.

Or you could see it this way. Having gay marriage denied will only benefit people like auspolers. And that wouldnt benefit me in anyway
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>>136568899
I know our courts are cucked but i dont see why they would block a non binding glorified survey. Whats the basis for challenging it?
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Does anyone have any idea what the total amount of the cost of the promised benefits from medicare/super? Promised = cases already existing where care has yet to be charged/required, or pensions compensating inflation, and thus money appropriated.
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>>136577015
Humans are emotional and petty. Gay marriage has been on the agenda for far too long. Time to get it over with and move onto actual issues
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122 million just to send out and receive mail?

I'm always mystified by retarded old boomer methods of disseminating information.
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>>136576936
Sure you dont have to be so mad that you have to tell me you're ignoring me. I gave my argument regardless
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>>136570464
Thats what they used to say in europe. Now look at them. You cant give an inch with these people. They will literally never stop bitching about shit.
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This gay marriage thing has become a war of attrition, stand your ground, whichever side you support.
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>>136577172
Your drawing false parallels that themselves are based on assumption.
So you're selling out your humanity for what? The pretext of gibs? Let alone >>136576083
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>>136577172
That is so shortsighted. Stop living your life in reaction to the sensory inputs you encounter, try and insert some actual lucid thought into your head for once. That's the main fucking problem with non-anglos because you're not fucking raised to think.
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>>136577400
A non argument matey. You've reiterated the same thing, and given not a single reason of justification.
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>>136577295
Like sending parents who don't give their kids hormone blockers to jail?
Like letting sodomites adopt young boys so they can molest them?
Sodomites will always attempt to make society as degenerate as them, they should not be legitimised in any way.
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>>136574209
Yeah just mail and its completely optional
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>>136577477
It's not just gibs. There's also racial discrimination reasons. We need more diversity in parliament. E.g. Australians of Chinese descent.

Also a more leftist society is a dumber and bluepilled society. Makes it easier for a lazy leech like myself to not be judged
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>>136577517
I wouldn't expect a gook to think outside of neo-liberal headspace nowadays.
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who is the main loser when we move from a society where marriage is accepted as the ideal union in which to have children (even if it doesn't work out all the time), to a society where marriage is merely paying $5-6 figures to get special "recognition of love" (as if what the government thinks of your relationship matters)?
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>>136568615
FUCK THESE FAGGOTS OFF!
KEEP YOUR GAY AMERICAN FAG MARRIAGE N SHIT OUT OF AUSTRALIA!

FUCK OFF!
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>>136568615
protip: theres only a vote if labor passes bill - which they will not.

>No vote
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>>136575681
Get a haircut you fucking chink, you look like just chased a dog down the yangtze.
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>>136577690
Great. Go stop the inevitable if you're so forward thinking
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>>136577056
>collect some mail
hmm, could work
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>>136577425
Are you stupid? Its clear the issue should be torpedoed and buried. These people would rather tear down our parliamentary system, use religious blackmail and subvert the democratic process just to virtue signal they're all about (((equality))). All because a few thousand OUT OF 22 MILLION people want to stick their dick in some ass and receive an applause for it.

Dont get me wrong I have respect for homosexuals especially the quiet ones. But this disgraceful temper tantrum will do nobody any good. Any self respecting homosexual would not endorse these shenanigans and those who don't support this initiative should remind these imbeciles what a sham they have made the issue into.
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>Marriage
It is a pagan thing, and religious thing.
It's THEIR word, their rules.

1 man, 1 woman. That's what marriage is.

Not two men, not two women.


"Christians invented marriage, and their terms are 1 man and 1 woman, thus you must respect that and stop trying to fuck with their religion".

It explicitly states in the bible that homosexuality is a HUGE sin.

The end.

I am not religious what so ever.
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>>136577172

You're wrong for this simple reason: once the Progressives become a spent force politically there will be something that replaces it. Historically we swing back.

Now when that swing back occurs every single one of us is going to remember how socially conservative non-whites cynically supported progressives that they didn't agree with, but supported anyway as a way to destroy us.

And we're going to be FUCKING MAD.

The White Australia Policy is still within living memory. Don't fuck with us because we'll fuck back, eventually. Just like the 19th Century gold miner in Victoria brought about the White Australia Policy in the first place.
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>>136577945
There are already GAY UNIONS which is marriage for these people.

They will never stop.

Idiots.
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>>136577957
Great. I dont want to bring down your hopes but heres to hoping.
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>>136576234
Reference Trudeau legalising blowjobs from dogs last year in Canada perhaps, or employ a basic Burkian argument for the value of tradition (which is shat upon by gay marriage).
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>>136577569
That's not problem dude. Heinous crimes are committed in Australia everyday. Most dont even make the news. Deal with it.
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>>136577526
Well, aside from acting like you care on a cartoon forum tell me what are you doing about it aside from whinging on said cartoon forum?
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>>136568615
Voting no for faggot marriage. The cockfags on /r9k/ convinced me of the total degeneracy of the gays. They are cancer, everything about them is obnoxious. And they deserve no sympathy or special rights supporting their disgusting lifestyles.
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>>136577517
We have opinions we just don't go american about it
https://youtu.be/JKHqjJIdM2w
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>>136578563
>The cockfags on /r9k/ convinced me of the total degeneracy of the gays.
>using r9k as a frame of reference.
We both know youre a fag
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>>136577172
So basically you want to fuck everyone over to benefit yourself? Go fuck yourself you selfish cunt. You fucking parasite, I swear I hope I live to see the day where you are hunted down and hung in the streets and made an example of. Fuck you and every other bleeding heart parasite.
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It's not like they have no options if they can't get married
https://youtu.be/-E-P_g75ciM
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>>136571160
Look no further then Canada for dogs and the eu for kids.
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>>136578114
You can't argue a defense based on tradition you either bore people or piss people off.

Today, people have no morality (yes that's what it is) people see no reason to object to this proposition of (((marriage equality))) (we're all for equality and the fair go amirite rite?). You can't argue against that people today have no idea WHY it should be objected to.

They see nothing wrong with it therefore they won't vote against it. The only thing we can do these days is argue technicalities and block it as much as possible. Changing people's minds about the validity of homosexuality needs a miracle at this point.

What you can do is remind them of the disgusting propaganda the homosexuals are promoting through the Safe Schools program, remind them that there is already a civil unions and defacto marriages which is available to all and has similar legal force. Remind them that the process agreed upon by the majority of Australians was via a plebiscite and that this was defeated by Labor and the Greens on the basis that it should be rammed through by Parliament in other words an attempt to silence the Australian public from the debate so that it can be controlled by the same people who peddled the Safe Schools program.

Then remind them that with this latest attempt the homosexual lobby is again costing the Australian taxpayer millions of dollars to revisit the issue. Millions of dollars that could have been spent on programs that are far more deserving than sticking a dick into someone's ass and getting an applause for it.
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>>136578403
Yay, another nothing-point
I am going to vote against it.
Because that's the (((epic power))) of democracy right?
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>>136578868
>2 views
>you and me anon?
where's that from?
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>>136573367
>disappointed
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>>136578888
Exactly. There's no end to their sickness, there's no morality, and there's no limits to what they won't push for.
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>>136578864
I've read in an economics textbook that if everyone acts according to their self interest it will automatically contribute to the social interest.

Anyway, Stop pretending like you're any better in real life. We both know you're going to do nothing to stop this aside from acting uppity on a chinese cartoon forum
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>>136579146
You don't know me. I've handed out fliers, will be voting no, and have spoken to people in real life about why heading down this path is a gigantic mistake.
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>>136576402
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>>136568615
No. Aids cures fags.
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>>136578991
Thats not how democracy works. You're using it as a buzzword.

It's just an abs survey dude. Theres no democracy going on with you when the government is actually working on changing marriage laws. You wont even have the right to make a difference. I repeat, what democracy? It's an abs survey.
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>>136578830
Projecting much?

>hates gays
>must be gay

That's like saying I must be a gook because I hate gooks. No, I just fucken hate em.
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>>136579288
Tell me about that flier job of yours. Tell me how you did it for the money.
Nice dude, you've spoken to your friends and family about it. Keep at it mate.
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>>136578934

There are real arguments against homosexuality that don't rely upon tradition or religion.

Honestly if you have to rely upon technicalities instead of making a complete argument then we've already lost.
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>>136579563
Volunteer work actually, and I will. I will continue to give out information to those who want it about these nation destroying issues you fags keep trying to implement.
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>>136579390
You're a sharp one.
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>>136579430
It's the accuse him of projecting so i wont be accused of projecting.

The cockboys and trap threads dont even interest my curiosity enough to browse the thread. It's hilarious because while there are people complaining about those threads i just let it go by me and not even let it register into my head.

Whereas you clicked into their threads.
Give notice to those cockboy threads enough attn to let it bother you
And you saved a pic.
And you seem to be abit too invested in this.

Theres more signs of you being a fag than i am dude.
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>>136579146

>I've read in an economics textbook that if everyone acts according to their self interest it will automatically contribute to the social interest.

That would be true if everyone was rational and had 100+ IQ.

That isn't the case and it has never been the case, even when we were 99% white.

If I'm a Somalian nigger in Melbourne that can't hold down a job, it's in my interest for the welfare state to be expanded. The true value of my labour is worth less than what a 1st world country provides via welfare.
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>>136579946
>The true value of my labour is worth less than what a 1st world country provides via welfare.
Lmao holy shit that's me and i was educated in this country all my life
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>>136579744
Thanks anon i try my best
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>>136580099

That's a sad indictment on you, mate. But ultimately I support the destruction of the current system, so welfare your heart out cunt.
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>How do you plan to vote aus/pol/?
I'll vote yes

>Since it's a "non-binding" poll, what will you do if it's a 70% NO but they still pass it?
It's much more likely to go the other way, that Australia will vote 70% in favour of marriage equality and shit cunts like Eric Abetz will still vote no. I'll probably send him a nasty message on Facebook that one of his staffers wont read.

>If it's "non-binding" why spend fucking 122 million on it?
Because the Liberal party are that fucking stupid. It's 122 million to just delay the inevitable.
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>>136579632
You can be armed with stats and figures but that won't win the argument when people think it boring. They'll switch off and only remember the dude sounded like an angry preacher.
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>>136578864
>So basically you want to fuck everyone over to benefit yourself?
How will gay marriage being legal fuck you over? It's legal, not mandatory.
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Democracy is such a fucking scam

all that money could be used to build great institutions for the descendants of the people who built this country instead we PAY the government everyday to literally cuck us.

When will this modern nightmare end?
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>>136579632
>There are real arguments against homosexuality that don't rely upon tradition or religion.
I like the way you failed to articulate them.
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>>136579714
Maybe you should go into politics and fight the good fight. Nothing worth fighting for is easy. Look how long and hard the gays fought to get to this point.

I personally blame globalisation but then again you cant blame something so inevitable
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>>136580413
I was referring to him saying changing society to what he wants will benefit him. That's what my comment was referring to.

Also it does as it changes the meaning of marriage meaning everyone who is married or will be married is now lumped in with these filthy sodomites which I don't want.
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>>136580496
not him but read this, it just red pilled me to hell and back
>>136576383
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>>136580551
I would, but I haven't studied enough to enter politics and I kinda like my job and aren't interested in leaving it.
>inevitable
That's bullshit. Nothing is inevitable, that's defeatist talk.
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>>136580278
Thank you anon. It's not easy to get jobs when you're not white
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>>136580593
>Also it does as it changes the meaning of marriage meaning everyone who is married or will be married is now lumped in with these filthy sodomites which I don't want.
I hate to break this too you but did you know that many gays are white? Just like you? I spose you're the same huh. Some gays are even men and Australian. Are you gay because you are also an Australian man?
There's probably even gay people who do the same job as you, how's it feel to be lumped in with them?

Oh wait it feels completely irrelevant.
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>>136580620
You can't make those arguments and not risk being seen as an angry preacher.
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Why does it cost $25 per voter to mail an envelope?
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>>136581003
have to pay for postie bike maintenance somehow.
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>>136580799
For starters there's fuck all gays so why we bother pandering to an insignificant minority I'll never know. But then again you're all trying to indoctrine children into your insidious agenda so you can use them for your own sick sexual paedophile desires.

One man does not equal another man however marriage does as it's something two people (a man and woman) enter into.
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>>136580910
yeah but that is a whole other problem, those ppl are religious zealots about their "equality" ... it doesn't matter to the hardcore zealots what you say. With facts and texts like those you just try to win the swing ppls ...
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>>136581003
To secure the voting process?

You may have lax voting laws but we don't.
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>>136579806
The "Oh I'm so high and mighty I don't have an opinion defence" is meme tier. If board killing cancer "doesn't bother you" and you can just be tolerant and accepting of the 5-10 faggot threads and NOT let it bother you, or attack the faggots for spamming, then you have more issues than me. By allowing it to happen and being silent about it happening you are basically advocating for it by proxy.
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>>136580413
What are you talking about?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/after-same-sex-marriage-then-what/396659/
http://newsmachete.com/?news=373
https://news.vice.com/article/after-marriage-equality-heres-whats-next-for-the-lgbt-rights-movement
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-comes-after-the-gay-rights-victory
https://www.quora.com/First-it-was-gay-marriage-and-now-trans-rights-is-the-next-big-fight-Whats-after-that-for-the-LGBT-community
http://www.thedailybeast.com/lgbt-leaders-gay-marriage-is-not-enough
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ericrosswood/the_gay_agenda_what_s_next_after_marriage_equality
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/06/11/after-marriage-whats-next-for-lgbt-movement/
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/lgbt-politics-marriage-equality-what-next

Shall I keep going?
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>>136580695
>I haven't studied enough to enter politics and I kinda like my job and aren't interested in leaving it.
All you need is guts, bravery, tenacity, spirit and courage. You can pick up skills as you go. Dont be a cushy faggot and pass up the opportunity to save this country when she needs people like you the most. Your job is keeping you too cushy to go the extra mile to fight to protect your country. A country needs to be fought to be protected. You're going to go against everything you've been preaching ITT because you like your job? Maybe you're just like everyone else who wants to do something but not enough to actually do anything because they like heir job too much and their life is too comfy and dont like risks. Because big changes dont take r-risks... right? You rucking selfish self-righteous uppity hypocrite
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>>136581164
I fully agree the more ammunition the better but you gotta use it carefully.
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>>136581283


>https://theatlantic com/politics/archive/2015/06/after-same-sex-marriage-then-what/396659
https://archive.is/GSKyS
>https://news vice com/article/after-marriage-equality-heres-whats-next-for-the-lgbt-rights-movement
https://archive.is/THpLy
>http://newyorker com/news/news-desk/what-comes-after-the-gay-rights-victory
https://archive.is/UJ4Mf
>http://thedailybeast com/lgbt-leaders-gay-marriage-is-not-enough
https://archive.is/7yJYV
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>>136580768

Oh you're not white?

FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
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>>136575799
>keep letting women trample all over you
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Now:
>tell someone I'm newly married
>they say that's nice and they ask me about my wife

Probably next year:
>tell someone I'm newly married
>they have to ask if it's to a man or woman

That's how gay marriage directly affects me - I have to fucking clarify that I'm married to a woman
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>>136568615
I can't believe some of you cunts are actually considering voting yes so we can "move on". As if it just ends there. Don't you feel the disease that has moved in and the rot that continues to spread. Read the pedo links there's no benefit to our society by voting yes.
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>>136581283
Can't wait for the pedo rights advocates to say its a mental condition not a crime.
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>>136581294
I guess you skipped over the parts where I said I volunteered my time, talked to people etc. I contact my politicians. So where the fuck are you getting off on your high horse you fucking faggot? Go fuck yourself cunt. When the day comes I can't wait to slaughter every last one of you faggots in the streets because you god damn deserve nothing less. You filthy fucking Jew.
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>>136581444
They're defeatist cunts, no better than the traitors to our nations. All of them should be strung up.
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>>136580620
>>136576383
>This post
Ok.
Theres nothing wrong with being disabled, besides homos can still reproduce if they want to.
There's nothing wrong with having a fetish, it would be stranger not to have a few desu
There's nothing wrong with having sex with your friends
>2 "appeal to nature" logical fallacy in a row.
Read the sticky.

The second post is a non-sequiter because even if by his "logic" homosexuality is a choice, people should still be free to make choices. What sort of fundamental violation of people's freedom would it be to deny that?

Third post recognises the slipperly slope fallacy but then doubles down ont eh fallacy anyway.
>Hurr if we give gays marraige, why can we deny it to paedophiles
Well, with paedophilia, there is a non-consenting or easily coahearced victim

These arguments are trash, i'm not reading anymore.

You can't be pro freedom and anti gay marriage.
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Have you people learned nothing?
This like every other thing which comes under the supposed "equality" classification is designed to destroy society. In this case destroy the concept of marriage. Marriage is one of the pillars of our society FYI.
They aren't doing to because gay people are sad.
They aren't doing it because of some sense of fairness.
They are doing it to DESTROY SOCIETY.
Why are we even having this discussion on here?
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I'll be voting no.
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>>136581185
My state , Oregon, has ballots by mail and it costs less than $2 per voter or 10% of what you are paying
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>>136581199
By proxy? No. Weak argument though. That's like saying you support child sweatshops because your clothes are made by indonesian children working for under $1 an hour.

So to apply the same logic on me ignoring the fag threads. It's the same thing. I dont think about it the same way you dont think about you buying goods that are made by underpaid borderline slaves and that you're destroying the environment by purchasing environmentally non friendly products.
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>>136569926
That isn't the issue.
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>>136581786
/pol/ is full of reddit poofs now thanks to the US elections last year. We kinda gotta reinforce these points so they get it.
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>>136581283
Have you even read these stories mate?

https://news.vice.com/article/after-marriage-equality-heres-whats-next-for-the-lgbt-rights-movement
>Having achieved its goal, Freedom to Marry is now in the process of shutting down. Evan Wolfson, the campaign's founder and architect, has said that he doesn't know what he will do next.
>"We know religious freedoms are protected in the Constitution and in state constitutions," he added. "No one is ever going to try and change any of that."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/lgbt-leaders-gay-marriage-is-not-enough
>Greta Gustava Martela, co-founder of Trans Lifeline, a crisis hotline for transgender people, made it clear that high rates of anti-LGBT violence and suicide will not simply disappear now that same-sex marriage has been legalized.
Oh no, now gays are going to tell other gays to stop killing themselves! When will the madness end! Soon they'll ask to not be discriminated againt or something equally treacherous.
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>>136581786
Because my job is keeping me complacent. I like my job. You want me to risk losing my job? I have my career to think about, friends to hang out. I have myself to consider into this. I love this country but i just dont have the time to do anything about it.
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>>136581689
Hence why you need to argue technicalities.
>>136581786
And here's why the normies would think people against homosexuality are angry preachers.

The whole thing to bear in mind is people don't have an issue with homosexuality therefore there is no reason to object to homosexuality.

>>136581689
>Slippery slope is not a legitimate concern
>cites pedophilia and non-consenting children
That construct is garbage these days considering children can consent to serious decisions including euthanasia which is recognised in Belgium and children are increasingly children are being (((educated))) about sexual reproduction at a very young age. Further who are you to arbitrarily say that children cannot consent?
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>>136568615

I think homosexual behavior is a mental illness and morals are under attack so I will vote 'No'. But the government is already predicting that SS marriage law will pass by Christmas. Normies are completely, utterly brainwashed on this issue. You can reason with them until you're blue in the face but they will just cry out 'homophone'.
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>>136581634
Im kidding friend. The courage required for you to fight this is too much for any Australian. You're a victim of your own privilege. You've done more than anyone else who claims to care about this country
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>>136582303
>Further who are you to arbitrarily say that children cannot consent?
I trained as a primary school teacher (left the profession though, I couldn't hack it.) Children under the age of 11 are ridiculously easy to coerce.

Coercion isn't consent.
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>>136582619
fucking prepubescent humans will never be legal in a developed nation such as and including Australia . Dont bother humouring the topic
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>>136582619
>being easy to coerce precludes somebody from consenting
Now that's just garbage. There are adults who are suckers for coercive salesman, do we take away their rights just because they can't consent?
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>>136582303
>>136582303
OH and I should add. I don't support the Belgian euthanasia laws or the outrageous, uncommon cases of transgender pre-pubecent children.

I do support sexual education to young children though, and you should too. Kids need to be told from a young age what sexual coercion looks like so they can act against it. And that's what sex ed is for year 1s.
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The Australian government has voted today and have all agreed upon wasting tax money.
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>>136582958
So just like any other day they sit?
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>>136582934
Go start a thread about it. Ill be happy to btfo you
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>>136582295
>i'll be voting yes to get it over with
>muh job
>muh friends
You risk nothing on an anonymous vote, you can still act like a pussy while more courageous people oppose it publically. Then go to work and continue with your fag happy facade. Is this the state of redpilled aussies? pathetic.
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>>136582945
>sex ed
Yeh that's until we have the LGBT lobby using shekels to brainwash children in the name of anti bullying. Its not enough that they get their legal statuses but they want to also ram their ideology down children's throats.

Also sexual education should be a parent's responsibility not something exclusively handled by the State.
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Migrate here, I guess
>>136581902
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>>136583120
Cry me a river faggot.
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>>136583345
Cool atory bro. Youll never get to fuck a toddler. Stay mad pedo scum
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>>136583395
>implying I support pedo rights
They're just humans too and why would you deny young love? Pedo rights are human rights too!

The slippery slope is a legitimate concern when the same arguments used to promote homosexuality can be applied to just about any form of sexual deviancy.
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>>136571444
>marriage
>concept of two consenting adults from two different families procreating to have a child and bring the child up in a stable home
>including gays nullifies the meaning of marriage so it might as well be called tortillatime
>everybody is getting tortillatime and less kids are being birthed
>marriage ha been shit since no fault divorce
also
>watch gay marriage have the highest rate of divorce ever recorded before the first year of it being instated
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>>136583503
Those retards applying the slippery slope are just that. Fucking children will never be legal because the wellbeing of the child esp prepubescent is a parents responsibility.

Deal with it. Pedo scum
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>>136583873
>young love is against the child's well being
[citation needed]
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>>136584063
Young love is only necessary for a child to discover ones emotions and for emotional development. Not for grown adults to fiddle kids
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>>136568615
i consider myself pretty libertarian and a year ago i would have voted yes for SSM, but as soon as its legalised the (((progressives))) will focus their attention onto a new group and down the slippery slope we go
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>>136584209
And the State can do that by protecting them from overbearing parents who want to stifle the best interests of the child.
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>>136584742
A child does not know what is in their best interest. It is therefore the parents role to act in the childs best interest
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>>136584862
>relying on the parent
The Courts (ie the State) decides what are the best interests of the parents, not the parents.

You be well to remember that.
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>>136585075
In family law the courts decides on the best interest of the child not the parent

You be well to remmeber that.

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