Is he right /pol/?

>>136543072
Yes, along with raising the top income tax rate to over 40 percent.

Bannon's brand of nationalism with socialistic tendencies is what we need.

>>136543072
Ideally, the free market would just create alternatives to kikebook and jewgle and they would die off on their own.
Unfortunately, it's becoming increasingly obvious that the free market is failing at doing this and this is just yet another shred of evidence that fascism is the only way forward.

i SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD IF THEY FIRE BANNON TRUMP SHOULD FUCKING KILL HIMSELF

>>136543072
Yes. Fuck the corps, bring the Zucc to heel.

>>136543072
Yes, look at what jewtube is doing this very moment. If this doesn't happen under Trump we are actually unironically finished

I agree with this.
But I also think we should publicly execute the people who run these sites and services.

>>136543072
yes definitely.

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It would be absolutely great.

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>>136543072
Yep.

>>136543226
Facebook and google are being propped up by government, there is no free market to begin with. There was always heavy government involvement with both of them from the start.

>>136543226
the free market is the biggest meme ever existed , cause in most cases 1 FISH becomes so big and he starts eating the others , destroying the free market , thus creating a monopoly

I hope it could lead to the services they provide eventually getting (mostly) decentralized.
It should never have gotten centralized like that.

>>136543072
>Is he right /pol/?
"Reported" is libtard-speak for "we are making this shit up."
Google shouldn't be regulated. It should be sued out of existence.

>>136543478
Good point. I mean, it's practically an NSA wet dream of a platform. Every other social media site before it went through its natural life cycle.
Freewebs, Xanga, Myspace, etc. Now this one all of the sudden is this behemoth that can't be killed. Someone had to be behind it.

>>136543190
Are you fucking insane? We already have the highest taxes in the world.

>>136543226
>what is bing
>what is yahoo
>facebook is a necessity
anon, you're not a... normie, are you?

>>136543072
Yes.

Bannonism is the future of America.

>>136543072

Yup. Google and Facebook are extremely dangerous, and have far too much power and influence.

>>136543748
Bing practically reroutes its searches through google. I use yahoo but it's really shit a lot of the time. I don't use Facebook.
Why are you so fucking retarded that you don't comprehend that despite all of what you said being true, it doesn't negate the fact that Google and Facebook play a huge role in culture since they own the vast majority of the market for exchange of ideas and information.

Bannon is /ourguy/

>>136543748
>implying you can make serious social change using yahoo and avoiding sites like youtube and facebook

Are you fucking stupid, anon? This is literally how we got king nigger in the first place

>>136543072
Treating the internet like a utility. Sounds like a good idea. I wonder what Ajit Pai thinks about that?

>>136543744
well, whoop-dee-shit, they aren't getting paid

>>136543072
In another thread I posted this but it's relevant here:

I work at an industrial company related to heavy equipment and machinery. Half of our software is slaved into Google's paid APIs. There are no competitors. They have a monopoly akin to Standard Oil

>>136543072
Allowing private entities to control the CONTENT of the 21st century communications infrastructure is unacceptable. Treat them like AT&T. I'm only concerned by the restriction of content. I don't care if they're monopolies. I don't care if they make a billion trillion dollars. I care that there are legal prohibitions to censoring CONTENT.

>>136543744
>Are you fucking insane? We already have the highest taxes in the world.
What the fuck?
Do you really think people would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

>>136543190
>Yes, along with raising the top income tax rate to over 40 percent.
at some point i'll just stop working and live off welfare because fuck it.

>>136544277
At the point where you are in the top income tax bracket you'll have enough money to retire.

>>136543072
yes

>>136543748
We're not talking about search engine tou fucking idiot. Underage get the fuck out. Real working adults who understand how Google's tentacles are in every aspect of industry/software are speaking here.

>>136543669
>Someone had to be behind it

No. Google just got algorithms right in a new market and took control so fast nobody knew what happened. The NSA was actually in direct conflict with google over mass data back in 2013.

Alphabet, as a big megacompany like it is, is just a self-driving profit machine monopoly at this point. That's JUST as dangerous as oppressive surveillance state. Both are just as likely to shut down "dissidents".

Unfortunately the US legal system can't do anything to a massive company like Google, so you can't just sue them into oblivion.

Bannon has the right idea.

>>136544254
Lies implies respect for the truth. On /pol/, tards just make shit up. Welcome to post-modernism.

>>136543072
YES YES YES. That will drive the final nail in the coffin of the libertarian filth.

>>136543226
you can justify intervention in cases of monopoly, and no, google+ isn't real competition for FB.

The usual defense of monopolies is natural monopolies (IE: no market power being used against rivals) but if you fall for that in the case of google who's perfectly willing to use market power to get .003¢ per click on searches for anything they get commissions on, you're an idiot.

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>>136543748

>what is dialup
>what is mobile internet
>cable modem is a necessity

KEK, I love how Bannon took the Net Neutrality BS (Make ISPs a utility!) and turned it around on the corporations demanding Net Neutrality BS. Utterly. Fucking. Epic.

This is the best possible timeline.

>>136543072
Yes but the legislation needs to be very specific and purposeful so some kike like zuckerberg doesnt coopt it in the future and use it for the opposite of its intented purpose.

>>136543072
I'm not sure about the argument though.

Is he saying that because Facebook and Google provide a service that millions of people use, they are essentially a utility and should be regulated as such?

But then what about Windows and Ma OS? What about Apple and Samsung?

We are getting to the point where there are only a few options for ANYTHING anymore.

Eventually there will be 1 or 2 automakers. 1 or 2 newspapers. 1 or 2 cell phone companies.

Eventually Nvidia is going to buy AMD and consolidate til there's only one graphics card manufacturer.

There are less options in the future, for everything. For absolutely everything.

Eventually there will be only 5 or so conglomerates that own literally everything.

I don't see how you can legislate your way out of this hole. It's inevitable.

>>136544558
>libertarians are basically just anarcho-corporatists

Hilarious

>>136543072
yes. HE should keep the net neutrality, and regulate the net as if its a postal service.

You cant open my data packets, you just deliver them, whether you like it or not.

i think they should be regulated for content. facebook and google should only allow links to content that is pro-Trump; this country is being driven apart by fake news leftist shills and they don't get the real story because it's left out and ignored, deliberately, and what do you know? It's all pro-Trump!
Yes, this is censorship. No, not all censorship is bad. Case in point - this censorship would be good. And if we need to repeal the 1st amendment to get it, then that's what we'll do. It's time to move this country into the 21st century

>>136543072
That works. We have been monopolized for far too long. Tank it China. Oh wait, thier not welcome there. Google executives were meeting with Obama once a week..... it's time to bring this to an end.

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>no ancap/lolbertarian flags in this thread

>>136543072

I've been saying it for awhile, all the far-left kids demanding these services put censorship plans into play are all for it when those in charge are on their own side, but power does tend to shift and the rules they put into place are going to end up biting them on their own asses.

>>136543072
Yes he is right.

The only alternative is going full fucking Teddy Roosevelt and breaking those fuckers up like they're your only daughter and a nigger. Trump got his foot in the door before they could close and deadbolt it. If that foot gets ejected before he can pry it open for the rest of the political mavericks, there may not be another chance to thwart the American political establishment. Trump needed those platforms to combat the media machine, and they're already working to ensure that something like him never happens again.

>>136543072
100%. Bannon I know you lurk here. Do it.

All you idiots that think this has to do with YouTube content or general web searches don't understand how Google's APIs are completely interwoven into software throughout ALL US industry. Of course it has to be regulated at this point. Google could single handedly crash production and the entire economy if they chose to do so.

>>136543072
The access to information and the thoroughfares of communication should always be open and free of manipulation and perversion.

>>136546710
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_APIs

>>136546809
Bad link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_APIs

>>136544277

Yeah I'm sure you'll give up a 400k job to live in Sec 8 and get $300 a month in food stamps. It doesn't affect you and will drive the left insane. Think strategically.

>>136545398
It's past their bedtime.

>>136546710
man, we know
My MOTHER picked up on this.

>>136546789
It's already open to manipulation and perversion you faggot, that's the whole point

>dial 555-come-on-now.jpg

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>>136543190
fpbp

COMRADE BANNON

>>136543072
Yes this is a big issue. Fucking big. Bannon is 100% right.

>>136543072
Is there ever a time when true-/pol/ isn't 100% behind Bannon?

>>136547192
>unironically calling someone comrade

Stay focused commieboo. The alliance is temporary until you name the merchants and make nationalism great again.

this is really good timing desu

>>136543072
Yes.
Small-government conservatism was a sham, cynically used by Republicans as cover for their particular brand of corporatism. I'm glad it's finally dying.

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Yes. Era of Data Scam social media is ending
Kill youthoughtcrimetube's dominance & kill facecensorfuck's dominance
should be Trump's #1 tech and free speech priority

have a painless seamless overnight replacement with a meshed together network of competing platforms so they're not lone data scam platforms hoarding all the data the users have put on over the last 8 years. you'd have meshtube, meshbook and meshtweet so that youtube & facebook for example would just be one company of 10 or so healthily competing all interlocked together so that users see videos/posts and can interact with them even if the friends/creators are using another platform. end this data scam assault of the public square & ideas. currently the data scam model of social media only allows one set of companies to profit from the data of humanity that they don't even own and had no role in creating. they are using this data hostage approach to censor humanity and make people read/watch leftwing. Zuckerfuck himself is using his platform to make people vote him into office with fake PR so he can protect his data scam into the future. holding world's data hostage to shill for yourself

all data: subscribers, views, comments, likes, photos, friends people have produced and typed up over the last 10 years (which they own, not the Data Scammers like they would have you believe) is on meshtube and meshbook the day this law is passed. for pewdiepie and his viewers, or your family and their friends using facebook nothing changes except they are no longer censored and facefuck is a $1billion company again like it should be. holding people's data hostage is not providing a hundred billion dollars of value to the world a group of 10 generation Z's could reproduce facefuck in a year it's not a special contribution to the world, what is valuable is the data (which the people typed up not facefuck). facefuck and ADLtube need a harsh wake up

end Zuckerfuck Data Scam Enterprises and ADL terror thoughtcrimetube

>>136547517
Oh don't worry, USSR was nationalistic. Also, we realize many capitalists are Jews who exploit the system to gain power.

>>136546984
You think you're an improvement? You're just another faggot nuflag user, get out.

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>>136548356
humanity owns it's own data, not Zuckerfuck data scam enterprises. pic is a network topology of the competing company products that would all operate on meshbook together seamlessly like you wouldn't even necessarily know what platform the friends you're interacting with are using

just making facefuck competitors or campaigns to switch from it won't solve anything because they still hold most of the world's data hostage and can leverage it to stop people leaving. break it up with law to end the scam and reintroduce healthy competition

they would all be essentially clones of facefuck so people can choose the company who's interface, practices and owners they like the best

there should probably be laws against manipulating the public mind with your platform too (including political censorship) to apply to the big 3 networks, youtube, facebook, twitter

>>136543190
Income tax is for poors. If you really want to get the riches, tax other shit.

>>136543072
man i never thought i would possibly agree with a policy like this OP. but seeing how horrible things have been with social media outlets, google and other big tech giants, and how much negative impact they're having in the world with the free spread of information.......i am really leery to say this, but i wouldn't really be opposed to this policy.

i still think the better answer might be to totally deregulate those industries and make way for competition to thrive. but if they announced tomorrow that this was going to become policy, i wouldn't be too disapointed

>>136543481
You do know there is an ocean full of entire ecosystems of fish of various sizes, right?

>>136543226
that's because it's not the "free market". government regulations and policies create environments where they thrive. that's why they donate to candidates. esp dem candidates love to regulate their competition to death

>>136548393
Good, good.

Extra points if you let me worship my religion and go full Stalin. We can be your Rodzaevsky's if you don't turn on us like that

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possible false flag memes and false flag attacks on SJWs to ram through their censorship of youtube and the web and defame segments of the internet/anti SJWs

I actually agree with the fatass, I mean, I don't agree on principle, but better publicly owned than owned by our enemies. It's also the same logic used for net neutrality.

>>136543190
COMRADE ANON IS WITH YOU

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>>136548886
fits in with the creation of elsagate to control what is and isn't on the internet going forward. these Jewish groups don't care that they've fucked up kids minds with these videos

>>136543072
No. Don't like it? Make your own. It's their company and they can do what they like.

These companies aren't as rock solid as people seem to think, in terms of their certainty to generate revenue. Google makes over 95% of its revenue from ads, if that market shifts out of Google's favor somehow it's done. People could also shift away from Facebook quite easily and it's done. These aren't companies outsiders should be able to stick their malicious fingers into to disrupt.

This reports is probably entirely false anyway. Bannon probably said nothing of the sort to anyone. Fake news.

>>136549060
they're holding all our data hostage to stop you doing that
>>136548356

>>136543190
....mixed nationalism with essential utilities socialized? bagawd i think hes on to something

>>136548905
Holy shit this retard has an ancap flag. This thread is entirely trolls.

>>136543190
>>136543072

Dare I say he is National Socialist?

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>>136547517
>>136548393
Facism (including National Socialism) and Communism, are the only ideologies that have made serious attempts to address the Problem of Modernity. Fascism in particular made some progress in reconciling tradition with modernity. Sovietism had varying degrees of success in that regard, and the ChiComs are attempting a similar Confucian synthesis at the moment.

No one has found a true solution, but the ideological lineage of Liberalism hasn't even tried--not with any honesty or seriousness--which is why I think it's ultimately doomed. I firmly believe that the answer to modernity will come from future evolutions of the fascist of communist lineages. It's been painful to come to that conclusion, coming from a libertarian background, but the world is as it is, not as we wish it to be.

>>136549103
The problem is of course that social networks are natural monopolies. You can use Twitter and talk to the entire world or "choose an alternative" and talk to yourself. These network effects are precisely why vulture capitalists pump so much money into these companies -- they think they can control the world and have reason to believe it.
Correct solution is a standards-based federated system, like the early internet protocols were. Unfortunately I don't see that happening, and some kind of common carrier regulation is a reasonable stopgap.

make social media providers a public utility and force them to adhere to the law,
and make them all go through a lengthy, expensive application process, with lots of fees, and use the money for building the wall

>>136549385
A universal plugin would be better. Something like RSS, but in a social media format. There's really no reason anyone has to control online ids and communications. Everyone on the internet should effectively have their own "homepage" and communicate with everyone else's

>>136549214
I would say more just a Nationalist Populist.

>>136549234
I think you're mostly right, but the state of communist movements in western nations is ridiculous. Quality manpower is everything, and AntiFa as well as the intersectionalists/most feminists is an embarrassment.

It's almost traditionalism vs post-modernism between the two movements. If there were less post modernists in the communist movements it would be far more bearable, but it would end up defeating the point entirely if that were the case and you'd be fashy.

>>136549622
Usenet was a pretty good fundamental model. Your ISP acts as a peer node and provides you newsgroup access, but nobody controls the entire network. It's a voluntary peering arrangement.
Spam killed both usenet and email. A modern replacement would have to be a real time streaming platform with a sophisticated trust and identity model. Difficult enough to engineer, impossible when nobody is getting paid to do it and nobody has an incentive to participate.
Blockchain based technologies are always going to be far too clunky to interest normies for non-illicit purposes.
Yarvin's Urbit project is super interesting but I don't know enough about it. I'll get around to reading the whitepaper one of these days.

>>136543072

yes, they've grown so big and are so fundamental to daily life for vast swathes of the populace, its high time the government stepped in and put the brakes on these fuckers.

the way they're restructering everything to crack down on 'thought criminals' is extremely telling of where they want to go. they tried to incrementally do this for years, now its time to stop them and break them into 10000 pieces.

>>136543072
i like the "according to anonymoose sources" and "Bannon reportedly stated" - too bad its not according to shithead#1 and bannon said quote instead so it can be considered actual information instead of generic "reporting" also known as bull-fucking-shit , come to me with something thats not jackass and we can talk

>>136550027
Dire times those we live on, I wonder wich side will the AI take?

>>136543072
fuck the NAP, do it.

break them up like standard oil

>>136544175
Nah, we're gonna repeal net neutrality and let ISPs fuck you up the ass.

>be me: google, twitter, etc.
>I can just shit on rightwing people without consequences
>oh shit a right wing prez gets elected
>I still continue to shit on rightwingers
>oh shit, consequences

>>136543072
>they need to break Facebook's knees because I got banned for raging about da kikes and da niggers on facebook

Basically every bootlicking little bitch in this thread has gone through this, sad how you cucks got a taste of power and now you want to play judge and executioner when your feefees are hurt by the policy of a corporation.

There's no way around this issue if we can even call it that, and it gives the government the precedent and ability to regulate and puppeteer any business which falls under their loose definition of 'growing too big'

>>136549870
I don't think Marxism is the answer in the West, but I think it has a perfectly good chance of succeeding in the East. Most westerners are ignorant of the theoretical developments that have taken place there over the last 4 decades, and dismiss China precisely because of how dysfunctional and destructive western Marxists are. CPC is almost like a mirror opposite of current western Marxism, which, as you say, is a basket-case of stupidity. The absence of serious economically-minded socialists in the west is precisely why some fascist derivative is likely to prevail if for no other reason than lack of competition. That is is the Left-Liberals don't collapse the whole thing first.

>>136550170
Niche corners are fun, but they don't move culture.
>>136550009
Perhaps there's a way to make a dumbed down "skin" platform for normies that covers some hybrid usenet/blockchain id network underneath. It doesn't matter how clunky the tech is as long as it comes in a neat little box with a clean UI. If it was something that could be bolted onto any existing website, I think we'd be on to something that could break into mass use.

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>>136545191

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>>136543072
he is always right

>BAWWW GOVERNMENT SHOULDNT REGULATE THINGS UNLESS I DONT LIKE THEM

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>>136543072
(((regulation)))

>>136543072
Finally. Also, anyone have archived link of source? I hate it when people post screenshots for a thread with no link.

>>136545191
The facebook, twitter, and google SERVERS are the "switchboards" for the vast majority of 21st century communications. It's no different than AT&T back in the day. People can talk around the superior technomagic of today, but it's still basically the same thing. If Bell Systems were disconnecting phone calls based on the content of conversations, people would have gone crazy. The government prevented that from happening in the first place. It's time to do that for the Inter-Telecom companies today.

>>136543072
Yeah, and then pretty fucking soon you'll have to have a Google+ account and Facebook account like you have to have car insurance.

>>136551252
http://archive.is/V09BV

Article from intercept.

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>Be right-wing
>talk about muh capitalism, muh small government
>Companies don't cooperate with your political bias
>THIS NEEDS TO BE REGULATED

lmao

>>136550918
Main question really is where does the canonical source of your data live?
1. Third party internet server: either you pay or advertisements pay. Hope everyone running these plays nice or you end up back where you started with de facto centralization.
2. Your ISP: forget it, these faggots are worthless
3. Your hardware: Everyone buys a a little server to plug into the wall. In some alternate universe. Either that or your shit goes away when you close the app.
4. ~~the blockchain~~: lol
Any attempt to crack this has to start with an analysis of the failure of Diaspora. I don't think it's a tractable problem.

>>136549385
>The problem is of course that social networks are natural monopolies

This. So fucking sick of the
>hurr, just use a different social networking site!
argument

>Well potential employer the reason I'm using VK instead of Facebook is...

>>136551454
>flag of the National Socialist German Workers' Party

>>136551329
I think you mean mandated like Obamacare. What's wrong with you citizen? Where's your Facebook ID? You must have your Facebook ID ready to be scanned by RFID.

has anyone noticed how these threads pushing for freedom of speech on the internet have the highest proportion of shills trying to push pro-corporate bootlicker opinions?

>>136549385
What kind of cuck wants to have a social media account?

>>136551468
>Main question really is where does the canonical source of your data live?
I think the easiest way to deal with this is to have the "usenet/blockchain" be a continuous stream (reliant on ISP), but in order to actually save any of you, individual websites would chose what they wanted to archive. You could see anything as it was transferring from IP to IP, but in order to save it, you'd have to use your own server resources. I think this would create a preferable system because there would still inevitably be central data nodes, major social media hubs, and the like, but no one would control the FLOW of information, only what they chose to save.

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>>136543744
>classcuck that wants to pay more taxes so ((((ZUCC))))), ((((SOROS)))), (((((BLOOMBERG)))))) and all the other tribesmen don't have to

>>136551263
>The facebook, twitter, and google SERVERS are the "switchboards" for the vast majority of 21st century communications
No, they are not, stupid commie. Video streaming alone makes up for about 60% of all internet communications.

Your logic is also severely flawed, you agree to certain terms and conditions before being able to communicate on social media platforms, Bell Systems didn't have the problem of trolls, spamming, people hurling verbal shitposts, and other nefarious activities at the time, and they would've taken the same measures as Facebook if similar issues arose at the time.

>>136543072
After Google firing a conservative today, yes they need to be punished in every single way possible

>>136551955
YouTube is owned by Google.
>video streaming is 60% of all Internet communications
Yeah, on GOOGLE servers.

Stupid Sudaca

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>>136551454
>Be left-wing
>talk about muh capitalism, muh evil corporations
>Corporations start cracking down on "hate speech"
>HAHA MULTINATIONAL MEGACORPS ARE TRULY /OURGUYS/

lmao

Google may not even serve my needs forever. Why would I want it to be part of the government?

>>136552211
>YouTube is the only website that streams video
Niggermonkey, there are thousands of alternatives where you can watch videos or communicate, the fact that some are more popular than others doesn't necessitate government intervention, in the past there were only one or two phone companies, that's not the case for social media or video websites, your analogy is not even comparable.

It'll be a matter of time before the government makes bitcoin payments illegal, breaks up uber, or some other stupid shit just because Google and jewberg didn't let you aspire shit post your happy merchants on facebook

https://www.google.com.mx/amp/variety.com/2015/digital/news/netflix-bandwidth-usage-internet-traffic-1201507187/amp/

>>136552912
I don't know about Mexico, but the us has always made a distinction between entertainment and private conversations. Internet companies are in deep shit either way though. If they're entertainment, then they're media, then they're face monopoly suits. If they're conduits for personal communication, then they'll face telecommunications suits. You're making a slippy slope argument that any government regulation means the government will break up every single internet based service in existence regardless of the industry.

Stupid sudaca

>>136543072
The ONLY way they need to be regulated is in a way that makes it so they can't discriminate against ideas (not including things like CP or things that are illegal)

bannonism = /pol/ism

>>136543072
>too big and may need to be broken up
that's probably peter thiels idea