how is this allowed?

>>136541530
Damn, they must've already ate them all

>>136541530
Tanks are outdated.

>>136541530
Their country is a jungle that's a muddy swamp for half of the year.

>>136541530
>thinks life is a vidya
>doesn't get it that tank battles don't work in some places
>would probably try to deploy and support tanks in Papua New Guinea, where helicopters have trouble and troops move about 2km per day
>snake flag
ahhh, mentally ill and ignorant.

>>136541682
I guess a bunch of shit is updated too, cause they're lacking in almost everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16uHIT3_iJM
the US however has a fuckload of tanks, probs more than all of south america combined http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-states-of-america
>>136541637
that's congolombia, not starvingzuela

>>136541530
We have actually a very decent fleet of helicopters, I think tanks do not suit for the terrain where most of the combat against guerrillas takes place. We've just bombed them for years.

>>136542036
>decent fleet of helicopters

good enough for throwing communists into the sea

>>136541784
>>136541737

Colombia is the only tankless country in that part of the world tho, and not all the country is a fucking jungle, just the part where no one lives in the south. And if they can use AFVs and SPGs, why couldn't they have tanks?:

Plus their neighbor venezuela has a bunch of tanks, and their border has a large part that can be easily crossed by tanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u4InrBnJ5Y

>>136541990
Memezuela, see >>136541837

>Colombia is one giant fucking jungle full of mountains and shit
>OP thinks tanks are effective in this terrain

Get out of here.

>>136542240
see >>136541837
>>136542171

>>136541530
Why are you so interested about or military tho? Are you moving here or something?

>>136542858
I'm imagining a Colombia-Venezuela war, and I was watching vids on this subject about other countries and realised this.

Doesn't seen like Colombia can defeat starving Venezuelans tho, even tho we all know they're an incompetent paper tiger

>>136542171
They have epic mountain range running up their west coast, the east is jungle and rivers making tanks useless and the flat not on the coast is sitting fuck for any artillery based in the mountains.
Fixed and mobile artillery is clearly the more sensible option for them, they are not looking to project their power on their neighbours and have enough light weight mobile artillery pieces for rapid defence of their borders.

>>136542171
>if they can use AFVs why can't they have tanks
I know they're getting less and less distinguishable but there's still a big gap between a tank and fighting vehicle anon

>>136543067
they do try to project power, not right now cause their region is a shitshow, but they always did

And 1/3 of their border is suitable for tanks, even with the rivers (they also don't cover everything). Every other country in south america (at least the relevant ones, including even ecaudor) have tanks, and their geography is quite similar, with forests and rivers.
See Argentina for example, loads of tanks even though their only land-border without natural barriers is full of big rivers.
>>136543332
keep in mind the ones used in south america are usually cold-war-tier stuff, not the modern cool tanks

although wikipedia, unlike GFP, says they have light-tanks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Army_of_Colombia#Equipment

>>136542957
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/colombia/military-08.htm

Turns out colombia military btfo venezuelans

>>136541530

>Country is all mountains and jungles
>Why don't they have tanks?

Same reason landlocked countries typically lack navies.

>>136543635
Funnily enough Belgium has nothing either. Not that they even try to defend themselves tho (as if they can)
http://www.globalfirepower.com/armor-tanks-total.asp

>>136543635
Which third of their border anon. Your severely underestimating jungles.

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>>136543770
It's not an excuse in modern warfare.

>>136541530

Colombia is plenty of mountains, it is much better with airstrikes.

>>136543635
We've built our military around inner conflict rather than foreing threats. We've been fighting against Vietnam tier strategies for 50 years ( yeah I know that's a lot of fycking time) but war here's got many political factors that I don't really wanna discuss with you

>>136543770
Even Bolivia has a navy anon, landlocked countries still have navies if they have large rivers.

And Colombia isn't "all" mountains and jungles, they're full of them, but they have other places to defend too, and along the border with Venezuela, by far not their best friend

They used to have tanks until they decided to focus entirely on counter-insurgency, because that's what they actually were doing, but seems like negligence

Their navy and airforce are OK tho, even if they don't have cool jets like Venezuela (not that they can use it right)

>>136543921
Where are you from anon? Does your country have jungles?

>>136543972
now here's a relatively strong country, for it's small population and available funds, that is

gotta watch out for Peru tho, they're getting less memey every year

>>136544240
The purpose of a tank is to move heavy fire power across the land at break neck speed once the frontlines have been broken the fact that In colombia rivers divide the country like some autist has gotten hold of an etcha sketch and the terrain is far from flat combined with dense jungle your tank force is not going to be advancing very quickly, and could easily be taken out by jungle teams and bombs, artillery or airstrikes.

>>136544455
Dude again why do you even give fuck on what's happening in South America? Aren't /pol/ burgers too busy fighting jews and mexicans in their own country?

>>136544279
yes, south america, but that's no excuse

see vietnam for ex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Vietnam_People%27s_Ground_Forces

>>136544731
You "people" are just a few notches away from slipping into Muslim-tier instability and we're enjoying the show.

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tanks became virtually obsolete in the 1970s - an entire tank can be completely obliterated with a special anti-tank shell with some kind of cheap nuclear waste product in the tip - forgot what its called at the moment but it basically just shreds through the entire tank, it blows up and comes out the other side.


WW2 was the last great war

>>136544929
>Implying burgers are not

>>136545168
I would disagree tanks arent completlwy useless but they are very terrain specific. All great tank battles were fought on relatively flat terrain. And in the modern era with heavy air and anti air support.

>>136544710
the orinoco plains are plains and full of savannas tho, not mountainous jungles

And they don't have just to keep defending, they can attack too. Colombia has more experience with expeditionary warfare than most of south america, since they fought in Korea and shit, and are planning on sending more people on small expeditions abroad to gain exp

And they have bridges too, it's not like the whole place can't be crossed.

Do you think their military is adequate to resist external aggression or to invade a neighbor if needed?

>>136544929
Colombia is fine, they just have to worry about Venezuela and it's waves of refugees and instability

>>136545168
what country near colombia has this? And sure they might not be as useful as before, and even the marines seem to be more willing to build wheeled stuff nowadays, but most armies still have them, and the US has a bunch

>>136545432
Yes I believe their military is substantial enough to withstand external aggression long enough for their allies to come to their aid. The only militaries in the world today that can defend their borders long term by themselves are the US russia China and India.

>>136545432
I think we would be slightly better at invading than defending, we have enough manpower and our Air force is ok.

>>136545698
The only ally is the US, and it's not that trustworthy an ally these days (since obama at least).

And they don't even have MNNA status, just lesser agreements.

>>136545430


all great tank battles are always fought with air and anti air support - otherwise your tanks wouldn't be able to advance


>>136545432

all top tier forces have tanks but they arent what they used to be - doubt there will ever be another large scale tank battle in the future, just doesnt make sense with cheap weaponry that can be mounted on shoulder or roof of small jeep which will destroy expensive relatively slow moving large target with 4-8 soldiers inside - not worth risk for possible reward

>>136545788
Invading is almost always harder, and when it comes to Venezuela at least, I don't see how you'd be better off invading it than defending yourself, unless of course they keep being incompetent and there are no significant battles, or if enough people turn against the government

You could probably do like Israel and fuck some places before they can even respond tho, they showed themselves to be shitty after that raid that killed the FARC guy.

The airforce is OK, but it's more geared to counter-insurgency, not a conventional war, and it's not that strong to guarantee air superiority over Venezuela

What do you think strayanon? >>136545698

>>136542171
>Plus their neighbor venezuela has a bunch of tanks
soviet surplus """tanks"""

>>136546053
I don't think we'll see any WW2-tier tank battles either, but most countries don't seem to think it's smart just to get rid of them either

>>136546190
According to wikipedia they have more french tanks than russian ones
Main-battle tanks
>94 T-72B1V's (Russia)
>84 AMX-30's (France)
Light tanks
>36 AMX-13C 90 (France)
>78 Scorpion 90FV-101 (UK)

All old, sure, but we're not thinking of a war against the US and shit ITT.

>>136546496
>t-72
joke tank
>amx-30
ancient tank

that shit's all RPG food m8

>>136545824
Is the sadc going to sit on its hands and knees while you cunts get invaded? Is the US going to sit idle when some agressor nation sets up shop next door to Panama?

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PARAGUAYAN WAR 2.0 WHEN?

>70% of males killed
>More free pussy than you know what to do with

>>136546669
>Is the sadc going to sit on its hands and knees while you cunts get invaded
Likely yes, it's a meme and fucking useless. Other countries are either with Venezuela or ruled by absolute spineless cucks, and everyone who might do something (Brazil, Argentina, maybe Chile and Peru) is either weaker than memezuela or is broke and hasn't updated it's forces in ages.

I mean see this vid about Argentina's army, they're done for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fg5amio4jU

They can barely even get their men over there

The US might get involved tho, since Russia is shilling everywhere, but then again they did let the situation get this bad, and they've done nothing about the commies in Nicaragua in ages

They're war-weary

>>136546112
I would imagine the Colombian military having fought guerillas for so long would make quite the impact on an invading force using the same tactics. I dont see colombia as an aggressor the country is generally liked and is an active participant In the international community. They could defend themselves without an issue. Probably better than most other countries. The problem they couldn't counter invade and occupy. Though this isn't really nesseccary as colombia would ultimately have US support and the other sadc nations would definitely get involved.

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>>136546950
Venezuela has more natural barriers protecting it. Paraguay is weaker to invasions, pic related.

I mean look at it, land invasions would only be viable via Brazil or Colombia, and most population centers and armed forces are far away from Venezuela, so they'd have to be sent there by plane or ship or something. And they mostly have 0 experience with conventional wars

>>136547156
This guys gets it, also right now a conflict btween Venezuela and Colombia is probably not gonna happen both countries are very bussy dealing with their current shitty inner situation

>>136547130
I'm certain Brazil would march on Venezuela most south American nations would jump at the opportunity to annex that oil. And the US would be right there with them.

>>136547156
mexico has been very vocal about this issue to, not that they have any power projection capabilities tho.

It'd still be shitty to have to go full viet-cong tho

>>136547419
Ahh Paraguay the country where we sent all our commies after we federated.

>>136547433
Brazil is broke and a mess. The state of our military is no better than Argentina's, everything is broken and useless, don't even have an aircraft carrier anymore. This could only happen after 2018. Don't expect anything from us.

t. brazilian

>>136547431
not right now since Venezuela is completely fucked and getting closer to civil war every day, but maybe in the future if the regime wins and decides to go full-Cuba or full-DPRK.

They're more likely to attack Guyana tho, excluding external intervention that is.

>>136547805
>implying Brazil wouldn't attempt annexation foe that oil.
You also underestimate the power of the financiers and their ability to manipulate countries into doing their bidding.

>>136547431
btw how have colombian politicians talked about venezuela these days? Peru broke relations with them, everyone else issued mildly-worded statements, but Colombia is the country suffering the most from their instability (except for them of course), and since they were FARC-shills and you people are pissed off about Santos' deal, I imagine you care more about this than other countries
>>136548136
at most we'd get more forest, but it's unlikely, except for Acre and some land down south (which was disputed with Paraguay) most of our territory was acquired via diplomacy in the late XIXs and early XXth century. At most, Guyana might get venezuela to stop trying to steal half their clay, and I dunno if Colombia has any disputes with them

>>136547805
>The regime wins and decides to go full-Cuba or full-DPKR

If this happens there would be an intervention before a war even breaks out

>>136548396
You sure about it tho? There is some evidence they're thinking about it, but it wouldn't be so easy and so cheap, and the US doesn't want to intervene anywherer at all, they're tired of doing this, it wouldn't be their first choice

Not even neocons are talking about intervention yet

>>136544929
There's a big difference, between being invaded by muslims and being invaded by Venezuelans, theres more than a million Venezuelans now here, but the thing is, we all like Despacito, so, we chill

>>136548390
Our chancelor said we won't recignize the result of the recent "elections", Maduro says shit about Colombia on tv at least once a month, the usual shit. The real answer is our politicians use Venezuela as propaganda, they talk shit about Venezuela and when a political party is not agree witv a decision of the current government the say we'll end up like Venezuela, we have presidential elections next year so shit is pretty intense right now, of course this is just cynical sincr a country in a miserable and shityy situation like ours should not be comparing to another shithole.

>>136541530
Why on earth would they? Who would want to invade Colombia? It would take a level of alturism so purely stupid not even Sweden would be interested in taking on those problems.

>>136548691
are they anti-commie by now or are they still retarded like MUD?

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>>136542036
>>136542134

>>136541530

Why does Colombia need tanks?

1. It's a fucking jungle, you ever try to move supplies like fuel through a fucking jungle?
2. AFVs are pretty much tanks against guerrilla small arms fire
3. You don't need SPGs when your AFVs can tow artillery

>>136548691
>We like despacito so we chill
My sides, negro vete a dormir deja el shitposting para despues

Columbians are kike puppets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC0VR4QoGK4

>>136549287
>Columbians
Why do anglos do this?

>>136549040
Seen a bunch, but haven´t talk to them, they are just selling things, or whatever, making a living, they seem very passionate about their country, never seen them talking about supporting any kind of political stance

>>136549193
5 minuticos más papu

>>136549595
the ones I've seen were anti-commie but otherwise didn't know shit about politics, but many disliked the opposition too (being that plenty of then are also socialists and some even claim to represent Chaves better than Maduro, with reason) and think they're shills

1 Million is quite a lot tho, you might soon have more venezuelans than the US