Gay marrige vote on news.com.au

>>136535194
forgot link

http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/christian-lobby-threatens-to-campaign-against-the-government-over-samesex-marriage/news-story/17ed09797c0108a464ce9409cb49a4e5

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>no
>100% of people agree with you

>>136535711
Liar.
>HAHAHA SO FUNNY AND NOT EASILY VERIFIED AT ALL HAHAHAHA STUPID CHEATING FAGS I MEAN OP'S A FAG I MEAN I'M A FAG I MEAN FUCK FAGGOTS AHAHA BEAVIS AND DICKHEAD AHAHAHA

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>>136535913
hahahahahahaha

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>>136536278
Bot. You couldve kept zooming in instead

The fags are rigging the vote for yes

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>>136536472
>20K votes since you can only speak about it since OP posted in order to make sense
>20K rigged votes in 3 mins
Ok. There's your goal post I guess. For science and for authenticity. 33% and dropping...

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>>136536634

Bumb, fuck those faggs

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>>136536754
Fuck them good. Fag

>>136535913
Holy shit this guy is butthurt in multiple ways

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>>136535194
500 million dollars on gay marriage. All to avoid having to vote on it for fear of losing his more conservative constituents.

I believe there are still at least 4 liberals willing to join labour on organizing a conscience vote though so I guess Turnbull is trying to pre-empt them by speeding up the process of a postal vote. Insane to pin 500 million dollars on a hope that a majority of voters will reject gay marriage so he won't lose his job.

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>>136535194
The pic takes it up the ass, do you? #sexist #TOTALLYnotsarcastic

They cant rig the postal vote

>>136537612
This is your fucking fault faggot.

>>136537612

Don't listen to this fag.

His ID indicates its onlyJza, from the poo tang clam

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>>136535913
go suck a cock it will calm you down. Molest a kid while youre at it

>pic related

>>136537612
He's fucked cos we're gonna vote in favour, I will, and despite the vocal minority present here, so will most of aus/pol/

>>136537928
No it is Turnbull's fault for refusing to allow a conscience vote. He is putting the rights of millions at risk all to avoid losing his job. He could easily do the right thing like Merkel and allow a vote. His opposition may not matter in the end if Liberals cross the floor to vote with Labor.

Gay marriage as an issue is not going to magically go away, even in a worse case scenario that a postal vote rejects it. It is mostly the elderly who oppose it and they won't be around for long.

>>136538757
Pfft. Why the fuck would australia vote yes? Half of tbe population already knows that civil unions exist. They'll just see it as pointless.

>>136538757
Thanks, anon!

>>136539262
A majority support gay marriage in every poll. The only way a postal vote will come out no (didn't work in Ireland btw) is if only old people return the ballots.

>>136539220
Do you understand how rerarded you are being?t here would be no issue if your kind just stfu and stayed in your own community.
You are the culprits no one else but you. And trying to say its other peoples fault because they wont automatically give you your way is just immoral.

>>136539332
>A majority support gay marriage in every poll
Completely false retard liar.

>>136535194
bump

>>136539332
Says who? Some progressive magazine? Stop pulling bullshit out of your ass. At least leave your dildo inside. People like you set any attempt of gays being average people back a 100 years.

The fags are really misjudging this because of their delusion. I know of people who are very progay (leftie fuckwits) and even they are boiling with resentment over what the fags are doing.

>>136537612
he's fucked anyway because every conservative knows he's a barely-in-the-closet leftist

that said if the homo mob were so sure they'll get their civil unions renamed to marriage (because that's literally all they're getting out of it) why aren't they running a "fucking bring it" campaign instead of trying to have parliament force it down our throats?

>>136540063
Because accurate polling shows majority of people will say nah fuck off

>>136535194
>No only 33%
WTF guys, what are you doing?

>>136535711
Unrelated but I hope someone drops a dox on harold the historian.
But 1&2 are dead memes now... thanks T_d.

>>136539862
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/21/most-christians-in-australia-support-marriage-equality-and-want-a-free-vote

But the poll published in The Australian newspaper showed that only 39 percent of voters thought there should be such a plebiscite, while 48 percent said lawmakers should decide the issue without a national vote. Another 13 percent of respondents were undecided.

The poll also showed that 62 percent of respondents were in favor of marriage equality, 32 percent were opposed and 6 percent were uncommitted.

The poll was a national survey of 1,662 voters last weekend. It had a 2.4 percentage point margin of error.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/newspoll/newspoll-voters-demand-samesex-marriage-poll/news-story/394b2887fb55bbceedc06b1ba846e806?nk=027c9e616287386238be999da8961ab7-1502163626

Same-sex marriage is supported by 61 percent of Australians, a 2016 Gallup opinion poll showed, but the issue has fractured the government and damaged Turnbull's standing with voters.

>>136540537
Time for archive
>https://theguardian com/australia-news/2017/jul/21/most-christians-in-australia-support-marriage-equality-and-want-a-free-vote
https://archive.is/gd5QB

>>136540191
pretty sure the only cunt who cares in my suburb is our federal MP (and that might only be because she's ALP and has to stay on script lest they turn on her as leftists tend to do)

>>136535258
Where is the option to vote? Do I have to be in Australia to do so?

>>136540907
They apparently have not clarified how they will address out-of-country voters.

>>136540537
1,662 people sure represent the nation. You can talk about averages, but I can assure you, with the existence of civil unions, I highly doubt people will vote for same sex marriage, especially when it's just a talking point rather then actually enacting anything beneficial for australia. You underestimate how conservative australia is, it's not just our oldies.

>>136540537
"national" poll conducted in newtown no doubt

who gives a shit about polls

>>136541573
Ok so if they surveyed 10 thousand people you would be ok with the numbers? 1500 is still a pretty big sample with a total population of 15 million. Plenty of American surveys have smaller samples and we have 20 times the population.

Same sex marriage won't disappear as an issue even if a postal vote goes for no, it is an inevitability and most want it over with because it is consuming time and resources. /pol/ is a minority opinion on this matter.

>>136538112
Shit pic i blew out last night. Centipedes means pedos

>>136541754
Well they did it in Ireland and now they have gay marriage and they are more religious than Australia.

Most of the opposition to gay marriage is the elderly so even if this somehow didn't work in 10 years when some of them are dead, support will be even greater. Germany allowing a conscience vote put a lot of pressure on Australia. Also, there is still a possibility of a private member's bill with support from Labor, Greens, and a few Liberals crossing the floor in support.

Theres always been civil unions. What the fags want is for the government to shit over secularism and dictate to the christians that marriage includes gays.

>>136541820
1,500 out of 15,000,000 is 1 10,000th of the population, or 0.0001% of the population, what a representation.

>>136541820
polls are all rigged for political interests
they cherrypick locations, omitt things or just make up the numbers
nobody actually randomly polls people

didnt you learn from brexit and trump?

>>136541820
I didn't addreas /pol/ and I know plenty of leftists and centrists who think the gay vote is a waste of time and resources, and civil unions serve the same purpose. And no, I wouldn't really be convinced by hypotheticals.

>>136542098
Gay marriage laws would include religious
exemptions. A priest has NEVER been forced to marry a gay couple by ANY country.

>>136542106
It is still a large sample. Anyways, look at Ireland.

>>136542156
Ok so what about Ireland?

Why can't we just have a seperate vote on Election Day like US states do when voting?

>>136542244
I agree that a postal vote or plebiscite is a waste of time and so do many but that doesn't mean if offered that people would vote no out of spite.

There is still a chance for a crossing the floor private member's bill as well.

>>136541973
Ireland has it because they have a backlash over priest molestations done ironically by gays.
Then they have the leftwing dingbats in their government.
They can look forward to many more years of mass sex crimes now they have normalised faggotry.

>>136541820
>Same sex marriage won't disappear as an issue even if a postal vote goes for no
But it will disappear when the goatfuckers multiply enough to control the vote and we switch to tossing faggots from buildings instead of letting them prance near-naked through the streets of our cities

>>136542282
Well, it wouldn't be binding and there will be lawsuits no matter which way it goes until Parliament settles the matter. Turnbull is really just delaying here.

>>136542357
No they had it because support has been growing into a majority opinion over the last few decades.

Give me an actual source that there are any real negative consequences in any of the countries that have legalized gay marriage.

>>136541973
the elderly are reincarnating as gen z

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3790614/They-don-t-like-drugs-gay-marriage-HATE-tattoos-Generation-Z-conservative-WW2.html

and enough people are bored and annoyed by the whole lgbt fad

>>136542339
I think people would. I'm gay and I'm fucking sick of the nonsense and see no practical use in it. I will definitely vote no and I'm sure many people will as well. Ireland isn't australia.

>>136542396
That isn't likely to happen prior to old people dying off who are the vast majority of opposition to gay marriage.

>muh whataboutism

>>136542401
>do as we say or reeee reeee
And you faggot cunts have a nerve to say there is no agenda. Bunch of 1984 inspired freaks.

>>136542504
Except every survey has showed young adults support gay marriage the most.

>>136542548
And Christians don't have an agenda? Everyone acts out of self-interest. At least gays are not hiding behind a religion.

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>>136539220
You guys hang on the day of the rope too.

>>136542271
since when do laws reflect the wills and wishes of the people rather than the mentally deficient clowns in charge?

you can always move to any of the pro lgbt countries instead of ruining this one

>>136542559
It's normalized already, that's why we gently asked you stop being "noisy" and you didn't listen, now a good Phd biologist lost his job for making sense.

>>136542605
Im not a christian you fucking cunt. Your christian hate is not an argument. But it is the motivation for everythng you do hate of normal peope and peaceful religious people that have left you alone in this country.

>>136537612
What a selfish bunch faggots are. That $500 million could have been used to cure AIDS so their civil unions would last longer.

>>136542688
Since in most countries if you look at the increase in gay marriage support over the years gay marriage often gets legalized right around the time that support for it hits 50% in polls.

>>136542690
It isn't about "normalization" it is about being able to enter a legal contract with the exact same rules as heterosexuals.

What does that biologist have to do with gay marriage in Australia?

>>136542401
And keeping you goys discussing non events instead of things like immigration or banking

>>136542746
Disturbingly fags would rather aids be normalised than cure it.

>>136542733
Being left handed isn't normal and they can marry.

>>136542746
Already working on it:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/03/scientists-have-eliminated-hiv-in-mice-using-crispr/

http://archive.is/8yiqT

>>136542834
I consider economic and social issues to be of equal importance. If Turnbull allowed a conscience vote of legislators already chosen by the people to represent their will, we could move on to immigration or banking matters.

>>136542878
>equating left handedness with assfucking homosexuality.
You're mentally ill.

>>136542559
again with the surveys and polls, they dont mean shit and most people will comply with PC shit when asked publicly unless they dgaf, young people have more to lose at their age by answering honestly

ask them on an anon message board or let them vote and you'll find out what they think

>>136542969
To say that claiming a trait being present only in a minority makes it not "normal" is false. It is normal if it appears biologically in humans. Having long fingers is normal even if most don't have fingers longer than a certain dimension.

>>136543082
No you're an idiot you see you have the same rights as a left handed person. What you are asking for is more rights than a left handed person.

DONE

>>136543059
Ok, well also Ireland. You can't discredit all surveys entirely just because they don't agree with your hatred of homosexuals. Most of them, in multiple countries, show that hate of homosexuals is held most strongly by the elderly and very little by young people in first world countries. Once the elderly die off, there won't be much opposition left, apart from small pockets of evangelical Christians.

>>136542523
old people are the vast majority of opposition?

i suspect you'll get more of a fight from the non-white community who weren't raised with 24/7 poz being shoved down their throats

>>136542506
it's literally a handful of couples across the entire nation but media can't shut up about it

one wonders what we're being distracted from

"The traditional plebiscite would cost up to $170 million, Senator Cormann said today. That’s less than the $525 million consultants PwC estimated it would cost."

fucking....kill...them....

>>136542789
it gets legalised because the clowns think polls are conducted accurately

>>136542878
Being left handed isen't a genetic defect but a natural variation. You stupid fucking faggot.

>>136543173
No I am attracted to men so I want the right to marry them. I mean I have that here, but I want Australians to also have that right. The United States legalizing gay marriage, and New Zealand showed zero negative consequences from those actions and put a lot of pressure on Australia.

I would want to have equal legal rights with the ones I love, not a separate set of rules because I am attracted to the same, not the opposite sex. These arguments are very simple.

Can't support something that is anti social institution of marriage like gay rights but I would be all for it if they made it legal to add femboys into legal harems. Also traps aren't gay.

>>136543082
Animals eat each other guess cannabalism is normal.

>>136542789
>being able to enter a legal contract with the exact same rules as heterosexuals

civil unions already exist, if they're lacking in rights then im fine with bolstering union rights

but you cant have marriage, it would be like if i started calling my dog a cat

>>136543294
Genetical defects that do nothing to futher our species should be grateful they're tolerated at all.

>>136543199
Yes. Muslims in the U.S. and Black Christians support gays in majority numbers. Only evangelical Christians have significantly less than 50% support for gays. There aren't enough non-Whites who oppose gays to matter at this point in any first world country.

These issues affect thousands in Australia, if it were only a handful of couples this wouldn't be dominating your news stories 24/7.

Gays want equal contractual rights for partnership and child-rearing.

>>136543279
Neither are genetic defects.

>>136543294
>No I am attracted to men so I want the right to marry them.
You can already join a civil union. You are not allowed to marry. You are a poofter.

Fuck off with this "love" shit. It isn't about love, it's about you cunts tarnishing the sacrifice of Jesus.

>>136543294
We literally already have that you dumb faggot. It ain't called gay marriage. It's a civil union. Keep your ameritardness in the bin.

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>>136543475
>and child-rearing.

>>136538757
Fuck you, shitdick. I hope you and your cum-guzzling boyfriend die of AIDs

>>136543294
Your attraction to men and marriage are two seperate issues mate.
If you are going to use the hysterical fag argument youmcan't love till you get a proper "marriage" you don't know what love is.
You are already catered for get a civil union and have a marriage its just a social construct.

I want to vote no. Where the fuck do I do this. I dont have normie tv.

>>136543370
Civil unions don't offer the exact same rules and eights as marriage or this wouldn't be an issue. Separate but equal hasn't been tried as a policy here for the better part of half a century so what makes you think it will last forever there?

>>136543442
Gays can adopt or hire surrogates. 20% of gay males reproduce anyways and lesbians have an easier go of having kids and often do.

>>136543179
i dont hate homos

but you cant steal marriage, the fundamental building block of civilization and warp society to fulfil the wishes of 2% of the pop

that is absolutely wrong and unequal

>Gen z here
Gen y and gen x need to fucking die, always blaming the boomers for fucking up the country.
These cunts are making it 10 times worse.

>>136543482
A civil union doesn't offer the same rights or it wouldn't have a different name.

>>136543541
Attraction to men shouldn't automatically restrict my rights. That is the fundamental issue here is intolerance, primarily, though not exclusively, to male homosexuals who want to have kids and enter into partnerships. No law has been proposed in Australia at any point that did not include exemptions from religious people. This doesn't affect them at all and its not like New Zealand went crashing into the bins after legalizing gay marriage. It seems odd when your neighbor allows rights that you don't.

>>136543602
4% and 7% of young adults.

>>136543544
scroll down

>Once the elderly die off, there won't be much opposition left, apart from small pockets of evangelical Christians.

go to lakemba and ask young people on the street what they think of gay marriage

>Use Firefox
>vote 'no'
>clear history
>repeat
>???
>PROFIT

Gays doont give a shit about marriage they just want to spoil heterosexual couples unions. That is their entire motivation.
If they get their way it means everyone who married has their marriage contracted edited without their permission retroactively. Invalidating the union. Its no longer the contract they agreed to.

>>136543294
whats wrong with civil unions?

>>136543294
Fuck off
Homosexuality is decadent and harmful to society. It should never be encouraged or recognized as acceptable under the law.

>>136543475
Homosexuality working against the benefit of the species is a genetic defect.

>>136543600
Why the hell would we want genetic defects passing their genes on and giving unatural upbringings to children. You are detremental to the species and should be seen as an unwanted defect, that is only tolerated for ethical reasons. Forget all you're equality faggot and stop promoting yourself.

>>136543935
Closet fag detected.

Can't wait for all the fag suicides. Gonna poster my whole area with NO propaganda. Fuck the homos

>>136543873
What is the point of legislating something that only helps the most degenerate subset of society?

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>>136543629
You don't deserve the rights of Marriage. Marriage exists to bind people who otherwise probably wouldn't stay together so that they will raise healthy children. Most poofters do not raise children (which is good, considering most of them end up "introducing their children to the gay lifestyle" aka molesting and raping them), and those who do end up destroying their children permanently.

You can not harbor children, and you destroy all children you come in to contact with. You should be thankful that you are allowed to fuck men in the first place.

>>136542960
Once this is (((solved))) there'll be a new social matter for the leftists and rightists to bicker over.

I'm thinking refugee quotas could get some miles out of the goyim, Australia should disown/defund Melbourne and Sydney.

>>136539332
It is really hard to trust polls these days.

>>136543755
Just stop being gay bro. It's like any other sexual fetish, you can drop it if you put your mind to it.

Fucking fags man. Making a sexual fetish a part of their identity, then demanding rights. They're just useful idiots for (((people))) who want to degrade western society through destruction of values and spreading of disease. Fucking neck yourselves.

>>136544089
Yeah I hate fags so I must be gay

>>136544245
Melbourne should be used as a nuclear testing site

>>136544245
A guy died on Manus Island yesterday, they're already preparing for it

No is only at 34%. Why aren't you doing your part?

>>136543629
So lobby to get the same rights under the name civil union.
By lobbying to change the definition of marriage, you are being explicitly malicious, vengeful, spiteful, and it is obvious to anyone that doesnt breathe with the assistance of mainstream media. There is no good reason to shit all over the tradition when there is an option that allows a compromise for both parties.

>>136544306
Agreed!
>>136544308
Oy vey!! Was he molesting local kids too? Notallpedos

>>136543873
They don't offer the same rights as marriage. Being attracted to men shouldn't male people a second class citizen.

>>136544028
http://chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

It persists because of heterosexual male carriers on the X chromosome.

http://www.nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

https://www.liveabout.com/the-benefits-of-gay-marriage-1411846

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/


Also, being gay as a male gives your female relatives a 30% boost on the number of kids they have:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02785.x/abstract

Delete history and revote, lads.

>>136544426
You're not a secnd coass citizen you have the exact same "rights" as everyone else you dumb lying faggot.
Afain you are asking for special privileges.

>>136544426
>27 posts and counting
Why are you on pol again?

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this thread is why lgbt ppl should never side with cuckservatives.

first theyll go for the mudslimes, then theyll come for u :^)

>>136544424
Dunno about that. But yeah, he died. They don't know if he killed himself or was murdered, but they were sure to drive home the point that the facilities and infrastructure on the island is apparently abominable, and that they should apparently be processed onshore.
They aren't even as big a problem as (((skilled migrants))) 2bh

>>136544426
>Being attracted to men shouldn't male people a second class citizen.
You should not be allowed around children. Period. You have the same rights as all other people, but I'm starting to think that you shouldn't have any rights at all.

>It persists because of heterosexual male carriers on the X chromosome.
So it's a genetic defect.

>>136544162
Marriage is not offered to people who have children, it is offered as a legal contract between two people, regardless of whether they have children or not.

There is absolutely no evidence gays molest kids any more than straights do:

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts%5Fmolestation.html


>>136544270
Why would there be an increased concordance of homosexuality in identical twins if it was a choice?

https://www.advocate.com/health/2015/10/09/study-dna-identical-twins-can-reveal-whos-gay

http://archive.is/GuptB

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

http://archive.is/PSmzQ

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

>>136544410
Why do we need a separate name? Religious people don't get to determine secular law. This is entirely a loving thing wanting gay marriage. It improves health, happiness, and draws in money from weddings and honeymoons. Gay couples who have been together decades still cannot marry when straight couples can marry after knowing each other for a few hours.

>>136544519
Clearly gays do not have the same rights or this wouldn't be a huge issue.

>>136544426
>Being attracted to men shouldn't male people a second class citizen.
Yes it should, because you cease tobe a functional member of society. A proper society cannot be sustained by faggots, so why give them any rights or tolerate their presence?
Not to mention the medical and social costs of homosexuals, who on average die earlier and partake in far riskier behaviour than hererosexuals.

>>136544694
You have the same rights you dumb dishonest asshole.

>>136543755
>4% and 7% of young adults.

a large part of that is due to media brainwashing
monkey see, monkey do
that's why you cant have marriage

Marriage shouldn't be up to the State, only the Church.

>>136544632
Why isnt there funding to screen and eradicate this shit?

>>136544660
>it is offered as a legal contract between two people, regardless of whether they have children or not.
YES, TO BIND THEM TOGETHER WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL HAVE CHILDREN.

Jesus Christ you are fucking retarded.

>There is absolutely no evidence gays molest kids any more than straights do:
You're clearly fucking delusional. There is a very good likelihood that you were raped or molested by a male family member. Nice activist link, too.

>>136544747
Plenty of gay people have kids. Homosexuals are not a majority so the lack of contribution by us to the overall population of children is negligible.

Those medical and social costs decrease by adopting gay marriage, allowing gays to live equally side by side.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/gay-marriage-boosts-happiness-health-study-article-1.3053017

If anything with the ways the laws actually working and everything else in msm liberal society fsgs habe more rights than normal people. Which is disgustingly unjust.

>>136544426
what rights are missing from unions?

>>136544885
Gays can adopt or hire surrogates. Having kids has never been mandatory. Marriage started as a way to subjugate women and transfer them as property from their father to a new man in exchange for money. That was not about kids, either.

>tfw gay
>tfw going to vote no anyway just out of spite

>>136544426
Stop with your weak fucking strawmans and respond directly. Also your sauces are laughable. You will never be able to counter the point that you, being a homosexual are a genetic defect, like any disabled person or retarded person, are an unatural occurences that goes against the Evolution of the species and naturaly yourself, as your bloodline would die out. You are in no way a benefit to society but detremental and like all damaging things to a society should be shunned and destroyed if possible.

Also reminder this guy is an admin of a fag discord and is a gay jew.

>push though fag marriage
>all the while demonising Christians and turning them into the evil bigot enemies, furthermore denying a framework for morality and society for our society, evermore drawing us into the soulless secularist pluralistic subjectively moral uncertain badlands of spiritual being, making it possible for the next progressive 'big social issue' to be pushed through

gg no re, satan
Sure, it may be abominable what 'they' are doing, but you have to admire how genius they are at times

>>136544987
>marrage was about enslaving women
You people need to be kept away from government.

>>136544629
Yeah, they forget to mention that the based locals on the island were trying to kill the (((refugee))) pedo's after they were busted luring kids into the facility.

I dunno what could turn this around now, the rot is sooooooo deep.

>>136544857
This.

>>136544970
I'm not exactly sure because each state has their own policy.

http://www.australianmarriageequality.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/A-failed-experiment.pdf

Here is some reading if you wish to know more.

>>136544660
>Why do we need a seperate name?
See, you're just out to hurt christianity out of spite. Its not about equality, otherwise you would be content with having all the same laws and tax breaks and official statuses of married couples, without the need to shit on christianity.

You're just a bigot, and that is why the majority of people dont really care for your politics. You're just an extremist.

>>136545139
For example, in the United Kingdom leading insurers charge higher premiums for same-sex civil union partners than for opposite-sex heterosexual partners because civil union partners are regarded as ‘singles’. Similar problems regarding the failure of hospitals, employers, schools, insurers and even state government agencies to recognise civil unions have been found by inquiries into the operation of the civil union schemes in the US states of Vermont and New Jersey.

>>136544888
and the kids are suicidal mental wrecks
if you can't have kids normally, can't breastfeed, then leave kids out of your 'lifestyle'

just get a pet dog or something

>>136545095
The only thing that could turn things around is an economic collapse IMO. Hard times create strong men.

>>136544563
This post is why faggots should hang themselves.
They'd rather virtue signal about a religion that throws them off buildings than pass up an opportunity to desecrate the Church and destroy society.

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>>136542106
Yo retard, I actually have studied statistics.

Past a certain sample size more people do not increase the accuracy of the poll because the margin of error is so low already anyway.

You can literally go calculate the required sample size for a poll intended to represent 15,000,000 people yourself. It's easy. Use the attached table.

That doesn't guarantee the 1,500 people sampled were sampled correctly. All I'm saying is that the sample SIZE isn't the problem if there is a problem.

>>136545118
>Linking an advocacy group's homepage for an argument
You ever heard of preferential bias? The argument the site makes are literally all ideological. There's no mention of having an actual lack of rights in regards to the state view in homosexuality. You've also done a lot of "Go here read this I ain't gunma teach you" bullshit. Makes your argument look like an arrogant perspective.

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>>136541232
>>136540907
I'm in New Zealand and I could vote, so you could try look harder.

>>136545275
Partly right. Economic collapse will drive away foreigners and cause progressive issues to be dropped.

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>>136545051
If it makes you feel any better, belief in God and Jesus is about to surge. There days of social engineering are limited..

Flat earth proves God and Jesus

>>136544888
>Homosexuals are not a majority so the lack of contribution by us to the overall population of children is negligible.
Criminals are not the majority, so should we tolerate them and let them run rampant, spreading their dysfunctional behaviour to communities across the country?
Fuck no, because that is not conducive to a functional and sustainable society.
Gays can never live equally side by side with heterosexuals, because they have forgone the laws of nature itself.
And homosexuals that have children aren't properly homosexual, that's retarded, they would be considered bisexual. Forget about the ones that use a surrogate, at any rate they won't be raised properly by a homosexual couple.

>>136545393
Homosexuals are not criminals.

>>136545242
>For example, in the United Kingdom leading insurers charge higher premiums for same-sex civil union partners than for opposite-sex heterosexual partners because civil union partners are regarded as ‘singles’.

that doesnt apply
because that is not actually equal
I am not suggesting you lobby for a situation where you are not equal
I am suggesting that you lobby to get civil unions on par with marriages from the states perspective ie you get all the tax incentives and formal status of being a couple
but you dont not call it marriage because traditionally and certainly within the nation of australia the term has held significance as a core aspect of culture, creed and country - being a union of a man and a woman under god for the purpose of procreation
Want people to respect you? You have to respect them
until you get that through your head
you wont win

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>>136545275
You're absolutely right, their last bastion of control is Fiat currency.. pic related.

>Checks btc price
>Rubs hands

I love auspol, we're the best ethnic group online.

>>136545363
That's what I was getting at, yes.

>>136545242
then stop being degenrate faggots. faggots are known to molest boys at a rate of 546% higher than normal straight people. you fucking fags ought to have a fag tax. 30% of your income is taken and put towards a useful cause. a cause that doesnt fix aids for faggots. maybe a cause they introduces poisons into faggots when they need to have their anus stitched back together cuz the faggots are always shoving weird shit in there.

>>136545456
"We can no more now create an alternate mode of commitment [civil unions] carrying a parallel intensity of meaning than we can now create a substitute for poetry or for love. The status of marriage is therefore a social resource of irreplaceable value to those to whom it is offered... if there are reasons for withholding the status [of marriage] from gay couples then these must also be reasons why civil union is not an equivalent opportunity."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-04/lewis-are-civil-unions-enough/3757782

>>136545583
Let's archive it
https://archive.is/s2pvq

>>136545611
How can one poster be so based, lads?
>(assuming this isn't a bot)

>>136545029
>You will never be able to counter the point that you, being a homosexual are a genetic defect
It doesn't require countering because it's meaningless.

Even if I accept that as correct, which I don't, it doesn't change anything.

>>136545611
ABC news is state-run.

https://discover.apester.com/media/598840a0a8bfa9a67e4e21d3

Here's the source to the poll, don't mess with it. DO NOT influence the result.

>>136545583
Its a logical fallacy. You are not denied anything anyone else has access to. What you want is an extra set of privileges tailored to you.

>>136545853
Civil unions are not recognized abroad.

>>136545118
what are the main differences?
I scanned through it, you're not missing much except some premiums are higher

and that's the other thing, getting married wont change anything for gays, you wont be happy, you'll still have discrimination, and now your husband can divorce you and take half your shit

grass is always greener and if you get marriage, then you'll be demanding something else

>>136545139
not just christianity, but all traditions held sacred by practically every civilization for thousands of years

>>136545583
Why am I not surprised that you have to quote people to argue as opposed to being able to articulate them in your own words?

What's funny is the quote is validating what I said about it being a core component of culture, creed, country. He says that it is equivalent to love, to art.
What this does not acknowledge however is the reason for its importance being tied intrinsically to culture based off faith. It disregards this because if it does acknowledge it, then it must face the problem that to redefine marriage, you have to destroy what so many people hold dear, what created this "transcendent state of humanity" as the guy suggests it is

You simply want to destroy it out of spite, because its core doctrine calls you to be a better person by its standards
You are not interested in equality
You are interested in revenge, spite, vengeance

You're an extremist

>Link an online poll to get people to spam no on it
>The majority result is still yes

So this is the power of /pol/....

>>136545427
Much like criminals, they have the effect of degenerating society or otherwise having a negative impact on it.
Homosexuals will always be lesser than normal, heterosexuals because they go against what is necessary for the continuation of society while simultaneously eroding its moral foundations by attempting to normalise behaviour that runs counter to the ideal.
Homosexuals as a whole act to make it acceptable to engage in promiscuity, drug abuse, risky partner selection, and hedonism.
Homosexuals have come to be an aggressive force of societal degeneration that in a sense makes them worse than criminals, as criminals to a certain degree understand what they are doing is wrong on some level and don't try to change the moral standards of society.

>>136545880
Australia is not responsible for regions outside our own.
Do you think the world would accept gay marriage abroad?

Why are there so many faggots on /pol/ anyways?
Don't they have a containment board?

>>136545998
No one has been arsed to write a script-bot-thing for it m8

>>136545998
Its being rigged by them. Thats how dishonest they are.

>>136545884
But gay marriage has already increased the % of gays in same sex relationships as well as married here in the United States. Also, marriage is proven to make one happier and healthier.

>>136546028
Many countries, yes.

>>136546151
>many countries
You are a fucking cretin

Calculations from international experience with SSM:
Australian population - 24 million.
Adult Population - let''s assume 2/3s are over 18 - 16 million adults in Australia.
Let's assume 5% are homosexual - 800, 000.
Holland noted a 10% take up of gay marriage in the gay community after 17 years - 80, 000 gay people in Australia will take up same sex marriages.
International experience - 80% divorce rate among same sex marriages after 18 months - 16, 000. We will have 16, 000 same sex marriages last more than 18 months.
Only 4% of gay marriages respect traditional marriage values of monogamy, so we are left with 640 same sex marriages in the whole of Australia that could properly be recognised as a marriage type relationship.

It's really about the cultural marxism, anons.

>>136546032
Faggots are rootless cosmopolitans that are not welcome anywhere, and as result they try to weaken any society they find themselves in to the point where they can live comfortably.
We see this in the way that they ceaselessly infiltrate online and offline communities with the intent to make perceptions of homosexuality more positive.

>>136546151
>Many countries, yes.
Just a reminder, in most of the non-white world you would be at best considered a strange disease and at worst brutally murdered.

>>136546025
to me, they can't help being what they are just like disabled people, but we don't push people in wheelchairs down stairs

I won't put them in camps, but we should have something like russia/china to prohibit homosexual propaganda, and they should be far away from kids as possible

I don't have a problem with them if they keep to themselves

>>136546335
Fags infest the internet because they know their behaviour is not acceptable . They get off on anonymity because they can be as much of a dumb faggot as they like and live out whatever retarded fantasy they like.

>>136535913
Ironic the faggot flag poster has a stick up his ass

>>136545791
archive so they don't get the hits and it screws with their site analytics

>>136545880
>Civil unions are not recognized abroad.
nor are faggot marriages outside the poz-sphere

>>136545884
>and now your husband can divorce you and take half your shit
after they've lived together for a year, married or not, they can do this (defacto status applies to poofters as well)

>>136535194

I voted yes <3

>>136545998
when I voted no it showed me as the only responding voter, shit can't be trusted

seeing "100% no" felt good for a moment at least

>>136546151
SSM has only existed for a few years, give it 10-20 years and lets see how these relationships hold up

right now it's still the 'honeymoon' phase

this will be the new fad
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/divorce/10363274/Gay-divorce-jumps-20pc-as-seven-year-itch-hits-civil-partnerships.html

>>136546531
I consider it to be a mental illness.
Under any circumstance, it should not be promoted as a positive thing.
I don't think they should be subjected to violence, but I do think they need to be disincentivised and otherwise discouraged from partaking in that behavior.

>>136546968
>vote yes on faggot marriage while enrolling in a law degree
i bet (((someone)))'s kids are doing this

>>136546719
Surely that defacto thing isn't enforced is it?

>>136544694
It's a huge issue if one makes it a huge issue, much like how media has done with transgenders, immigrants and so on and so forth. Much like a child not getting a toy he wants (Except in this case you got that toy and you're still fucking whining)
Apply this same logic to the imaginary gender wage gap and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's only a huge issue through the spread of misinformation and stupidity

>>136535194
why do gays even want marriage, they're all so promiscuous it seems pointless

this applies to modern heterosexual relationships as well, marriage is pointless when most people are horny degenerates

if those faggot cunts actually follow through with this faggotry, and by christ I hope they fucking don't, I plan to marry my best friend in a massive piss take ceremony taking the absolute piss out of the faggot community, then proceeding to defraud the welfare system and reap the benefits from centerlink

>>136547284
it's not a "break up and you're off to face court" thing, if there's a dispute that's where it ultimately ends up

even a lot of divorces don't end up there if people can sort their shit out between themselves and their lawyers first

but when both parties can't settle on terms it's off to court to resolve things

>>136542250
marriage is a religious concept

>>136547149
agree

that must be the worst feeling for a parent, to have your child 'experiment' because they watched some degenerate shit on tv or in a film

>>136547403
>Except in this case you got that toy and you're still fucking whining
>in this case
literally every toddler does this

t. parent

>>136535194

>Keep holding these online polls

>Keep stating;

>THIS IS PROOF 99.9% OF AUSTRALIANS WANT GAY MARRIAGE

>Immediately demand the government call off the plebiscite

lel. Because of this unbelievable faggotry (and because I hate Murdoch) I will be voting a Big Fat NO.

You brought this on yourself you stupid fucking drama queens.

>>136536731
pedophile ring, pls go

>>136535711
>yes
>100% of people agree with you
Good poll

>>136537612

Why do homosexuals hate democracy?

>>136542401
Homosexual marriage is not founded on real love, homosexuality is a fetish.

I also can't wait for that landmark case where a Church refuses to Wed a gay couple but are forced to against their own religion, homosexuals are truly the scourge of our country.

>>136538757

Then why all the sooking?

Stop blocking the vote and let Australia give the government a big fat gay mandate.

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>australians

>>136539220

And Chinese and Muslims, who grow larger every year.

>>136539332

>Majority of (((polls))) say yes to sodomy


>But don't let the goyim vote! Because suburban and rural retatds!

>>136545763
It proves you are a defect and like all defects should be shunned, tolerated at best. Not accepted and promoted like it is today. You will bring down this civilisation with morale decay like you did with Rome.

>>136541820

I'll be okay with a plebiscite thanks.

>>136547865
Thats heartbreaking fucking scum

>>136548071

You know who the real victim is?

The female journalist who wrote the initial glowing article, because Alt-Right trolls on twitter unfairly appropriated her work to "abuse" homosexuals.

I wish we just had this vote 5-10 years ago, so gays and the media can stop complaining everyday

but now I realise they'll just bitch eternally about it if it doesn't go their way like brexit and trump

all the more reason to vote 'no'

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Guys, the inevitable conclusion is that it will be legalised, however I agree that priests shouldn't be forced to marry gays if they don't want to.

>>136548589
The gay marriage law proposed would not force churches or priests to marry gay people and include explicit exemptions for them. No priest has ever been forced to marry a gay couple anywhere.

>>136548589
if it can be legalised, it can be unlegalised :)

society shouldn't be forced to accept gays if it doesnt want to

Got a bot running on it, if it doesn't move, that's proof that this poll is rigged.

Bumperino Lets get it started anons

>>136549698
Never changed from 34...

>>136549698
or maybe your script doesn't work or maybe they're running more bots than you are, cancelling out your attempts, or maybe the server drops vote spam

>>136535194
I don't know why faggots (and general bluepilled population) wouldn't want a vote on this. To just claim the high ground and arrogantly assume the "majority" of Australians want gay marriage just makes me want to shove them in the ovens.

Vote NO on the postal votes lads. Blow them the fuck out once and for all!

>>136551528
Quite odd...

>>136551931
Would it not fluctuate or alter with the incoming legit votes though? You would expect it to change by 1 or 2 % as votes come in, but the percentages literally have not changed in hours.

>>136552623
If they're rigging the polls, who is to say that they won't rig the plebiscite?

>rightcucks are this triggered that gay marriage is inevitable

>>136553210
I've always known that it was inevitable, I'm just trying to piss off as many lefties and poofters in the meantime.

Wew, it actually changed 1%

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>>136552623
yeah pretty much this.

this vocal homo "base" has no idea how conservative Australians are. they live in an inner city vacuum and a result from a plebiscite would be much the same as Trump and the Brexit. if you put it to a vote, either seats or a referendum they'll lose and they know this. hence trying to backdoor (lol) actual democracy.

my only concern is if there is a plebiscite will I be able to bet money against it online?

no such thing as gay marriage, because marriage only exists because of men and women.

>>136543294
It's not about "equal love." Gay relationships are massively different to straight relationships. Face reality. Most gay people I know don't give a fuck about marriage, because why would they? Marriage is a cultural meme in society that shows your commitment to invest all you have in starting a family and produce offspring and continue the civlisation we all fucking enjoy. Gay marriage is a small part of undermining that and it's working, the West is culturally collapsing all over the world

>>136536768
ppLEASE DONT KILL ME

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>>136555583

So I had a bot running for a few hours, voting once every 5 or so seconds, the poll only moved 1%. RIGGED.

>83 to 7
FAGS
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT

>>136539220
Don't you lot already have the tax break unions? Why do you want marriage, just to insert yourself into a religious union?

>>136540537
You cunts should make the plebiscite compulsory. see how many Aussies actually give a shit about you.

>>136544426
Are you the same faggot that was arguing for the right to taint normal peoples blood donations?

>>136539220
>Millions
750,000. You degenerate filth are no more than 3% of the population.

Its insane how the public gets to decide on gay marriage but legislation or policy that actually matters we have no say in.

gg Straya. Keep downing those VBs.

We’re losing the vote, fix it, run a script someone

>votes no

"You think outside the box"

duh.

>>136562025
lol, so you think the (((bankers))) give a fuck about what normal people think about being slaves?

you think voting makes any difference?

on all the issues that matter both sides agree.

while we argue about shit that doesn't really matter.

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>>136535194
since this is being held in Straya.

Shouldn't /pol wholly vote 'YES' ??

>>136562025
This is a fucking give-a-dog-a-bone scenario mate, every now and then they'll toss something our way to pacify the plebs. Something that is inconsequential but with emotional weight to bait the lefty faggots into thinking they can make a difference or some shit. Fuck this government

>>136536204
Phonefag, GTFO

What about lowering age of consent and shariah law? Voting when?

>>136549009
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The Coalition is pathetic

>>136558241
are you changing IPs between votes?

maybe it checks the vote was cast on the right domain name?

maybe you're not submitting everything necessary for the vote to process?

Polling in Australia tends to be pretty accurate. A compulsory plebiscite I think would probably pass based on the polling. A non-compulsory vote would be interesting because Australian pollsters aren't used to working with that.

Me personally I don't give a shit

>>136562025
this has been the first plebvote in a long while
maybe it'll make people more hungry for direct democracy decision making

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sodomites need to fuck off

>>136538757
fuck off cunt.

If there is going to be a vote how do i register? only been 18 a few months.

>>136564747

Are you registered to vote ? If not go to the AEC website and follow the instructions.

When I was in high school a million years ago we had some bloke come around and tell us how to do it. I don't know if things are still the same now. You can probably just enroll online now.

>>136542878
>hand usage preference is the same thing as sodomy

You are both stupid and disingenuous.

>>136535194
it's 2017 and is it not allowed yet? shame

I turned on the channel 9 news this morning they had two woman talking about gay marriage. First one used all the typical cliche talking points.. love is love, it's 2017 blah blah. So i thought, great let's hear the other side. BUT OF COURSE there is never another perspective. The media dont allow any other argument. You are either for SSM or you are for SSM.

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>>136565307
screw off faggot

>>136565311
>still watching tv in 2017
just cuck my shit up senpai

>>136565595
Give me a break. I turn it on for a minute to eat my porridge in the morning.

>>136535194
I can't see the poll anywhere in that article.

>>136565660
I just read pol in the morning

all the other commuters have no clue why I am smiling and chuckling so much on the train

I haven't been paying attention lately. Are we actually getting a plebscite on this or are they still jerking eachother in parliement?

Does anyone actually know how this postal plebiscite would work? I heard it wasn't compulsory so isn't it being left wide open for tampering/ fraud??
Surely it can't be anonymous otherwise you could just photocopy the ballot paper and send in thousands of them.

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