I was reading through the "could NatSocs and AnCaps get along" thread and both groups seemed to acknowledge their ideologies could coexist. I started to wonder what would need to happen to set society up to implement either of these systems, and more importantly, how these changes would happen. Every day I see posts about society needing a "hard reset," or a "civil/race war," or "the day of the rope," et cetera. Would the measures really need to be that extreme? If so, what catalyzes them and how are they organized and acted out? Obviously, in America, the chief opposition to either system becoming reality is that which unites them both, the Left. How are they to be defeated and expelled? Is civil war necessary? If it is not necessary and achievable through means available in our current system, what would that look like? And who would be an ideal leader or figurehead to articulate the message to the masses? Trump is a president I think most here are satisfied with, especially considering who the alternative was, but he is neither a National Socialist nor an Anarcho-Capitalist. Are visions of either of these systems being achieved in America simply wishful thinking that are outside of the realm of possibility? Are there certain documents, classified or otherwise, that would need to be released to the general public to convince them the Left does not have their best interests in mind, and that National Socialism and/or Anarcho-Capitalism are better than what we have now? Or is society, currently caught up in levels of spiritual hollowness, hedonism, and consumerism that humanity has never seen before, already too far gone? I want to believe that there is a future worth believing in, but what would constitute successful societal change in the collective eyes of this board seems, to me, a very difficult task.
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Well Ancaps mostly want to be left alone, so once they get their seasteads and spacesteads going and a bunch of ancaps immigrate to those locations then that will basically be enough for them. NatSocs are a trickier case, since they need to actually gain control over their country to enact their changes, which will probably only happen after a major economic collapse or other major disaster.