>The United States has been at war since 2001, 15+ years Thoughts?

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>>136514045
kikey wants goyim blood

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>>136514045
The USA has been involved in a war during 220 of 241 years that it has existed for.

>>136514045
If we would just leave those poor innocent muslims alone they would stay in their homes and not bother us. Think of all those poor innocent muslim children, they would never leave their wonderful paradise nations in search of a better future in the west if the US hadn't bombed them. Islam is a religion of peace, and would never have conflicted with the west if we hadn't started it.

>>136515254
Yeah, thing is that actually the West did start it.

Throw a dart at a country in the Middle East. Read about the history of the despots currently running it. Notice that every single one is either propped up by the West or Russia, and that all of them remain in power because of either the West or Russia.

>>136514045
>war
dude theres more murders in detroit than deaths of our soldiers
also, its not a war, its a conflict. dont call a conflict between sandniggers a war, sandniggers dont know how to wage a proper war.

>>136514704
>The USA has been involved in a war during 220 of 241 years that it has existed for.

this

america is a military empire. our whole society and economy owe their existence to our perpetual, for-profit, military industrial complex.

the "war on terror" was just the latest public relations campaign to justify our constant wars. it was created after the the 'cold war against communist dominos' meme went stale.


america has been, and will continue to be, "at war" for the rest of all of our lives.

>>136516184
need dem resources.

>>136515254
Ironically, this is what leftists believe. The world was some paradise before the big mean United States showed up.

>>136514045
We need internment camps. We could put every single Afghan in camps like we did with the Indians to break them of their ways. After this they will like blue jeans, bubblegum, and baseball. It works every time it is tried. History proves this.

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>>136514045
INSIDE JOB.

>>136516634
No, it isn't. You're just retarded.

But the reason that the Muslim world hates the USA is because of the actions of the government of the USA.

It's not a random target. The USA fucked them up and down the block for half a century. It's not because they hate our freedom, or our religion, or our women.

They're at war with us because we started dozens of wars against them.

>>136516818
>baseball
you mean where the umpire calls it a ball, but it was a strike
you mean where they pay off umpires to make shit calls
you mean where its all a rigged competition?
>basketball
you mean where the ref doesnt call a single travel?

>>136515665
Oh please, if it wasnt for the west and those big greedy corporations the middle East would look like Africa. And I'd be paying 5 times as much to fill up my gas tank

>>136515683
regardless, we're still dishing out billions of dollars into it so it still affects us

Bush, Jr. said it will last as last no as it takes to defeat Islamic terror. So, forever.

>>136514045
>import muslims
>muslims commit attacks
>we need more surveillance
>import muslims

>>136517050
That's nonsense. Oil is traded globally.

But it's also irrelevant. Regardless of what the Middle East would hypothetically look like without the USA, the reason that the Middle East hates the USA is because of the actions of the USA.

>>136516852
actually part of it collapsed before the "8 second" video too, you can even see some of the top collapsing within itself before the final fall

>>136516884
Leftist revisionism. They have historically been the aggressors. Stop getting your history lessons from Noam Chomsky

>>136514045
>since 2001
Nice bait

>>136517320
You're flatly wrong.

I assume you mean "historically" as in "people who lived in those areas in the middle ages."

But that has jack shit to do with the relations between the people of modern countries. Where those people hate us because of what we did to their countries.

>>136517115
yeah i know its fucking bullshit
i feel bad for the soldiers there though, fighting against inbred retards wearing sandals and a towel on their head, riding mopeds and planting IEDs in every major road
its literally a useless fucking desert full of rubble

>>136514045
Small proxy conflicts, they boost the economy more then hurt it, and they give alll the war mongers something to jerk off too at home, don't really see it as a major problem yet

>>136515665
>Cold War
That is not limited to the Mideast, that's all of the third world, and the ones that are better off today are the ones who had as little to do with the Russia as possible, whether the involvement was wanted or not. Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Ethiopia, Angola, Suriname, all fell into the soviet sphere and none are stable today.

>>136517320
>Leftist revisionism. They have historically been the aggressors. Stop getting your history lessons from Noam Chomsky


lol :^) while they might be crude violent savages we cannot deny that we have bombed more countries than any other nation in history. we have dropped more bombs in more countries than all other countries combined. we have gone to sent in troops and forced regime change in at least half of the third world.

to deny that we, maybe, perhaps, possibly, deserve some of the anger directed at us is delusional.


should we pull out of all these countries and give up pre-emptive action? no, thats unrealistic

but should we maybe reconsider our current methods and motives and learn from our mistakes? yes, duh.

Try '89 buck-o

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War#Military_means

>>136514045

According to the DOL this has all been going on since 1990 and counts as the Gulf War conflict

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>>136518067
You were probably always at war.

>>136514045
9/11 was an inside job.

>>136517806
Thx, good answer

>>136518147
Aussie caring about America?

>>136514045
Our economy thrives in war time. We've been at war forever and we will continue to be at war.
Its our greatest strength. We can just outlast all enemies economically

>>136514045
>conquer their countries
>kill their leaders and clergymen
>destroy all mosques
>forcibly remove survivors (if any) to reservations and convert them to Christianity while they wait for extinction
>open Greater Israel to Jewish settlement
>open the rest of the former Muslim world to white Christian settlement

Ann Coulter made clear soon after 9/11 what needed doing. The war on terror won't end till it is done.

>>136514045
I wan't out

we're not the good guys

we're the bad guys

>>136518547
Exactly, plus anybody here old enough to remember shock and awe, that was badass really showed everybody what America can do and Iraq was no push over either, they had a rather advanced military just not as advanced as us

Shlomo said he'd give us some shekels if we did.

What are we gonna do, NOT listen to Shlomo?

>>136517191
The values of Islam and the west are at odds, and the West is winning in the cultural exchange. Muslim countries all want American pop culture, American standards of living, and American freedom, to some degree or another. On the other hand we adopt nothing of theirs, the only inroads Muslims have made in our country are isolated communities and secluded and separated families, our broader culture takes nothing from them, because they are inherently inferior, even to our lowest common denominator that consumes our trash. This is a source of conflict, and our global economy and Information Age means they can't hide their inequities, so they blame us for their problems rather than face their own

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>>136518705
You have to be ruthless to stay on top. Ruthless usually means bad. That's why everyone hated the British so much.

>>136518424
Human caring about humans.

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>>136518705
This.

US foreign policy is a farce.

CIA interventions since the postwar period have destabilized the old world and made extremism prominent, all for the sake of enriching arms manufacturers and other multinational conglomerates who benefit from war. Captialism is neofeudalism. Fascists and commies agree on this.

>>136516184
This is so Metal Gear. Upvoted.

>>136520215
>This is so Metal Gear. Upvoted.

no its real life redditfag

The "war" is technically over. But we are still waging war.

>>136514045
Well, Sir. The fatty-elephant party is in charge again. So we'll see.

>>136520289
Downvoted.

Sorry edgelord.

Reddit spacing.

>>136514045
>>The United States has been at war since 2001
We've been at war since 1776 you pussy, get it right. We'll never stop being at war until the rest of the world stops sucking.

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>>136514045
makes me think that it's not a war on terror.

>>136520330
>Well, Sir. The fatty-elephant party is in charge again. So we'll see.

yah, because obama didn't go to war and bomb *more* countries than bush or anything

u r stupid as shit if u think the political affliation of the current US president has much to do with how many bombs we drop. at best the president gets to pretend to decide where they a few get dropped, but they all get dropped.

>>136520452
MUH SUBSIDIES

>>136516184
Well duh. We are the new Rome. Rome, and early Mongolia I might add became the way they did because of constant warfare. As long as you are winning, there's lots of gain.

>>136520535
No no no. Dingbat. Think to why it's been 15 years. Think to when the term OP is talkinh about, originated. Fatty elephants.

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>>136514045
Imagine how much experience (urban warfare) and tech improvement we have over peaceful (lol) nations. There's probably secret war tech stuff that would blow our minds.

>>136520626
This shit originated way before then. We just didn't have cause for a declaration of war until 9/11. It was too big a reason to not go. Anyone who studies the war on terror or even watches a good documentary knows this shit started in the 60's and picked up real strong in the 80's and 90's.
They just never hit us hard enough prior to 2001 for us to make a big deal out of it.

>>136520592
>Well duh. We are the new Rome. Rome, and early Mongolia I might add became the way they did because of constant warfare. As long as you are winning, there's lots of gain.

I am aware 'we are the romans'. civilization is cyclical. we fill a role.

>>136520767
I mean, think of the new stuff we are using now. It was created/designed at least 20 years ago and kept under wraps.

The first predator drone kill was in 2002. They didn't create that shit in 2001.

>>136520794
Why not mccarthy who some trump guys used to secretary for? OP posted a thing. Not the JFK tapes or something. Ffs. Muh 1960s yippies counterculture. Wtf is 9/11? Lousy democrats

>>136514045
Campaign finance reform and cut military spending, weaken the military industrial complex.

>>136521023
What? Man, you must be gay, only people I've ever met to string together such incoherent shit as a counter argument have been gay people.

Why?

>>136514045
>war

>>136514045
The Korean war has been going on since 1950.

>>136514045
>hurr must invade Afghan to fight Al Queada
>15 years pass
>hurr Russia stop bombing peaceful AQ freedom fighters!
>why are we in Afghan again?

>>136514045

>2001

Dis nigga forgot the first Gulf War with Operation Desert Shield / Storm starting 1990.

We've been in a "war on terror" since we first started fucking with Saddam almost 30 years ago.

>>136514045
When are we allowed to use nukes?

>>136521889
You already have. Twice.

>>136521000
Exactly