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The NorLinkArchiveBot has been busy here in the last few months, popping up 15-20sec after a post with a link it doesn't like with the archive link.

Time to have a look at the pros and cons.

>Archive linking helps stop sites that get ad revenue off clicks from getting those click from 4chinz
The bot is not very discerning about who it archives - it archives abc.net.au - which is an ad free national broadcaster yet leave dailymail.co.uk links alone
>In general, the type of personal information DMA collects and holds could include (but is not limited to) your name, address (postal and email), contact details, geographic location (including your suburb or post code), gender, your IP address, information relating to the location of the device you use to access our Site, .transaction details relating to your use of DMA products and services and any preferences you tell us about.

The bot is clearly a bot - the response time is too fast for even the most weaponised autismo but it's also monitred. In discussions with the Norway flagged bot it's also made it clear that when it comes to vids it downloads vids (probably using rtmpdump and or youtube-dl). This in itself should be a fucking MAJOR red flag. I have also seen the same archive posting style using other flags - probably safe to say that if it is one person running a bot, they're also using a proxy or vpn.
When pressed about whether he's working/shilling for archive.is the bot usually goes on an ad hominem offensive and avoids the question all together.

My point is - for a site where one of the main tennets should be
>Question everything
Everytime I see the orbiters saying
>hurr durr, thanx Based NorLinkbro
I am left thinking
>hang on a minute....
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There are a multitude of link archive sites out there and in denying clickbait sites their advertising dollaryoos I have no problems
BUT
and it's a big one... don't just go to one particular site because some "based bro" here told you to. Archive or search for your own archived links.

The bot clearly has an agenda in only sending us to one site and only archiving some links and not others.

Some of the archive.is whois for those interedasted
>person: Denis Petrov
>nic-hdl: DP36-IS
>address: B?lkova 16
>address: CZ-11000 Prague
>phone: +420 775168924
>e-mail: [email protected]
>created: May 16 2012
>source: ISNIC
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>>136504176
>I am suspicious about a bot who archives posts so that lefty websites don't get adbux from clicks

ya go fuck yourself op
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>>136504529
>he hasn't gone thru the list of sites that get archived -
you might be a bit surprised and or disappointed at what he lets through m8
Eat shit and die.
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>>136504318

The Czech country code is 420? Dude weed lmao
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>>136504994
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>>136504318
make your own bot and stfu
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>>136504176
NorBot does God's work.

If NorBot wants a few shekels, let him gather a few.

Fuck off you jealous roopoker
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>>136504176
Bump
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>>136504176
Thanks for caring anon
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Norgebro is a hero. Stop being such an autistic faggot and let him do god's work
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ITT: we find out whos on archive.is's payroll.
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>>136506672
bump because legit discussion topic
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>>136504176
>ITT: Buzzfeed bot tries to convince everyone that based Norway bot is the true evil.
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>>136504176
If the norway guy doesn't archive it because he sleeps I do it this week. My plane is in maintenance and there's nothing better to do.

Also I enjoy your tears about your lost ad shekels. Go back flooding rebbit with clickbait.
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Shut up hes our national treasure, norways gift to the world.
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>>136504318
he used to use archive.org but the consensus feedback he got was to use archive.is since it has been the most common article archiving site here since it was archive.today during goobergate shit

>>136504176
why is downloading videos a major red flag?
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>>136508220
yup
noticed as well
NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER TRUST AN AUSTRALIAN
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>>136508634
There are heaps of alternatives - why just that site?

>why is downloading videos a major red flag?
If he's saving specific posters links a(while telling them to hooktube) and he's cross referencing posters with their yt accounts, doesn't that take the monitoring thing to a different level all together?

>>136507854
Cheers.

>>136508220
>>136508925
>someone says something I disagree with
>REEEE normie shill get out!
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>>136509241
>heaps of alternatives
name two.
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>>136508625
>tfw you forget Solskjaer and THAT goal
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>>136504176
Listen, you leave Nord-Archive-Bot alone, or else we'll have you half way up tower hamlets
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>>136509241
what other alternatives are there? besides, he uses another service unrelated to archive.is for youtube links, so he's not using just that site.

i have no idea what point you're trying to make about the video downloading shit. if people are on here shilling their own YT channels he doesn't post a hooktube link, it only gets used when people post cancer like vice or boogie and there's no way for him to figure out what your posting history here is from you clicking a link.
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>>136509241
>someone says something I disagree with
>REEEE normie shill get out!

Pot, meet kettle.
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>>136509310
>>136509733
Wayback's been mentioned and webcite
Those are literally 2 I can think of without searching. Their provenance may be dubious but then again what do wee know of archive.is (or any other subdomains they hold) and their background/provenance?

>>136509733
when users here are clearly posting comments on yt (and it's able to be cross referenced) & he's dl and archiving those vids and these threads - that doesn't make you sit up and take notice.

>>136509871
I'm not accusing him of being a shill - I'm suggesting we should be more discerning than just to trust him... There's a difference.
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>>136510212
>I'm suggesting we should be more discerning than just to trust him

And I'm suggesting the same thing about you... checkmate nigger.
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>>136510212
>I'm suggesting we should be more discerning than just to trust him...
thats what I was just suggesting about YOU hypocrite convict mental midget
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>>136504176
They're gonna ban you for sharing that guy's whois

Also don't worry, it's a fake name.

The norbot was in a previous thread discussing with me (the guy who monitors it) and when I confronted him with these arguments he went "Haha I don't need a few thousand pol ips, I couldn't sell that for $10"

The dumbass indirectly confirmed it's HIS privately-owned website. He owns archive.is and hooktube (registered 2 months ago).

/pol/acks thinks he's not selling their data and that he's paying the hosting bill in Jew tears.

The total amount of archive.is links from last year on pol is 92,000 based on archives.

If we calculate at least 5 visits per link (as the lowest possible average) that means pol sent this guy half a million page views.

This is a kike attack on /pol/ that mods drown out because they think archiving is a new phenomenon from 2017 and they let the guy shill here.
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>>136510361
my nigger
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Please post reliable archive sites. I already know about archive.org.

I'm gonna rewrite my tool to use random ones to frustrate shills even more. Their pain excites me.
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>>136510724
Based norge anon. Fight these MSM clickbait shills and these bad we journalist that update later the news to fin in their agenda. I use the 2 too - archive.is and wayback machine.
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>>136510724
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>>136511112
>Bad web
>fit in
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>>136510461
archive.is has
>0 ads
>0 tracking cookies
>the only active element blocked by ublock origin is literally the link to his twatter

Sites get archived with
>0 pop ups
>all scripts disabled
>redirects disabled

It's like you hate losing your shekels m8
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>>136510724
If you do this and prove OP's suspicions are falls I will suck your viking cock to the fucking ragnarok. But if you won't do this you still do good work although we should question everything so pleas don't attack OP.
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>>136511203
>>0 tracking cookies

>I know literally nothing about tracking

You don't need cookies to get all the info mentioned in OP's post. Cookies are for active sessions and remembrance. You just need to open a web page. This guy successfully diverted all traffic on pol to his archiving website.

If he changes it to archive.org wayback machine I won't shill against him

But he won't because he has interest in keeping his archive shekels
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>>136508625
This
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>>136511693
This!
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>>136511946
exactly
We don't attack nordbot but we have questions and he can prove his good intentions very easy. No offence to him if he is sincere.
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>>136504176
While I'm pretty sure the Norway Bot is on the level, it does make sense to at least do a quick look into archive.is and see if they're making any money off of what they do and, if yes, what they're spending that money on.
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>>136511693
>his archive site
If that were the case I wouldn't have time to post so much. The guy who runs it is constantly working on it to fix shitty capturing of certain designs and to obtain paywalled content.

Any way, moot point since I'll use random ones starting later in the day. Send more suggestions -> >>136510724
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>>136504176
i talked to the guy
he said he has a script warning him of a thread without an archive link
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>>136512401
the hero we need but dont deserve
have you ever thought about applying for janitor?
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>>136510724
>I'm gonna rewrite my tool to use random ones to frustrate shills even more.
Go for it.
How about actually archiving sites that run on advertising as well while you're at it.

>>136510461
Cheers m8. Good to know I'm not the only voice in the darkness.

>>136512510
Yes.... but why do we HAVE to go to (((his))) site?
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>>136506672
>archive.is
Yeah, I've never understood why archive.is seems to be the main one. Are any of them even related?
How do we know these archives are actually fucked with?
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>>136512882
i mean why not?
why would i give money to the jews when i can give it to some autist who at least tries to make this shit board a little better?
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>>136504176
>The bot is not very discerning about who it archives - it archives abc.net.au - which is an ad free national broadcaster yet leave dailymail.co.uk links alone
it archives liberal sites. dailymail isn't liberal.
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>>136504176

The ABC is a Marxist shithole and it does have advertisers and they do use metrics to monitor traffic.

Secondly - even if it's a rival company looking to diminish the earnings of a leftist clickb8 shithole...good?

Now the only thing that is a minor concern is that archive was compromised during the election cycle for a project run by a U.S. university that works alongside the various intelligence agencies.
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FAKE AND GAY
SAGE
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>>136512905
They have a nice firefox addon.
>right click
>archive this link
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>>136510461

Sounds more like a win-win.

I have no problem with supporting a service that undermines my enemies.
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>>136512905
>I've never understood why archive.is seems to be the main one
Personally, I really like the short, human-typeable URLs (for transcribing from memes)
And the site itself is very easy to use

But there does seemto be a sense of cargo culting going on with the site
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It also stops the sites from knowing how many people on 4chan are reading their shitty articles...
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When you archive a site doesn't that archiving site also have to view the page you are depriving of clicks?
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>>136512510
Sgills would be better served just posting an archive link off the bat and then shilling their garbage instead of trying to convince everyone nor-bot is the bad guy
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>>136513171
interesting, thanks
>>136513375
yeah, it works well. are the other archive.**'s related?
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>>136512748
That's a job anyone can do, and I wouldn't be accepted because I don't have a post history. My IP is constantly changing and cookies get cleared.

>>136512882
>How about actually archiving sites that run on advertising as well while you're at it.
Concern troll. Not going to feed your conspiracy theories.

>>136512905
Personally I always preferred .org links since you can see the url it contains. I think it has to do with archive.org archives being too easily taken down with a robot.txt entry. And what >>136513375
said. Archive.is links are more convenient for info type pictures.
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>>136512748
>throwing pearls to pigs
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>>136513454
Of course, but only once.
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>>136513445

Which is crucial since Jewgle is using 4chan traffic to determine what content to suppress.
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>>136512905
>Are any of them even related?
Breddy sure they own a few subdomains
>How do we know these archives are actually fucked with?
We don't. But don't you think it's wiser to question than just blindly accept?

>>136512982
>when i can give it to some autist who at least tries to make this shit board a little better?
But is he? He only archives links he thinks should be archived. What's his metric for determining what should be archived or not?
If it's to stop ad revenue then he's failing. Dismally.

>>136513116
What advertisers? The abc has VERY strict guidelines for what they can advertise and what cross site stuff they can do. So, again, what advertisers does the abc have?
>Now the only thing that is a minor concern is that archive was compromised during the election cycle for a project run by a U.S. university that works alongside the various intelligence agencies.
Thank you for reinforcing my point.

>>136513445
And sends lots of free traffic to the archive site from here....
>>136513454
It's a live archive. But at least the archive site doesn't get ad revenue from some clickb8 sites...
Or do they?

>>136513523
>Concern troll. Not going to feed your conspiracy theories.
There you go with that ad hominem I was talking about earlier.
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I've noticed the Norway guy too, but he's not a bot. Bots don't have conversations with you.

Also, test
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/pepe-the-frog
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>>136504176
>>136504318
so encourage other people to archive other news sites not on norbros list

I've started doing it and you literally have to copy paste into archive and you don't even have to wait for the shit to load because by the time you post the archive link the page will be loaded for everyone else
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>>136513513
>are the other archive.**'s related?
as far as i've been able to tell, yes
archive.li has the same whois info as archive.is
empty whois for archive.fo
but there was no apparent cosmetic difference as the URLs bounce around (sometimes you visit .is and get redirected to .fo without any apparent rhyme or reason)
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>>136513523
Anyone who uses the term conspiracy theory unironically is either a dumb liberal or a intelligence service member and can't be taken seriously.
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>>136513769
>https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/pepe-the-frog

(Stealth archives)

Take that Norwaynigger

https://archive.is/fUAdN
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>>136504176
He's that fast by the way.
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>>136513769
Oh well might just do another site just 4 you, but you really shouldn't link to absolute garbage ever.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170807225803/https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/pepe-the-frog
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>>136504176
Glad I'm not the only one
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>>136513739
>>Concern troll. Not going to feed your conspiracy theories.
>There you go with that ad hominem I was talking about earlier.
That's literally the definition of concern trolling. You tried to affect a bad outcome through the posting of concerns, which makes them insincere.
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>>136513523
>>136513576
Nor-Bro idk what we ever did to deserve a hero like you. But thank you
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>>136514076
Nah, it's a monitored script. I've posted and his post is already up when mine appears - even the NEET autismos here aren't *that* fast.
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>>136513739
But that wasn't an ad hominem attack. You are in fact concern trolling. False flagging shekel grubbing kike
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He chooses to provide an archive link, but the original link still exists therefore so does the choice.
He doesn't provide archive options for every link, other anons could do if they choose.
I don't see the problem, I pick the archive link for most and sometimes go to the initial link.
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You're jealous that we like him aren't you? All those hours of shitposting from your shitty metered connection, staying up late for peak traffic so your posts get noticed, putting effort into your worthless wordplay - all for naught.
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>>136514254
>>136514504
>a concern troll is someone who is on one side of the discussion, but pretends to be a supporter of the other side with "concerns".
How have I allied myself with the archive linker?

I see the need for a link archive. Just not his.
Maybe the mods need to weigh in here and decide if we need a mandated link site and exactly which site should be archived?

>tfw the entire internet apart from 4chinz ends up on archive.is

>>136514822
Noice. Cunt.
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>>136514677
Checked.
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>>136504176
Who fucking cares you stupid fucking cunt, archive.is isn't what is trying to fucking destroy western civilization.
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>>136504176
i feel ya helmet head, I never cared for the archive the way other posters seemed to, shady as fuck.
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>>136504176
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Reminder: >>136510724

Need suggestions. Reliable ones that can handle most articles.
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>newfags are getting scared of archivelinks now because 1 Aussie shitposter decided to make a thread
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>>136515317
Can you let us know what domains you own/are affiliated with so we can eliminate them?

>>136515406
>he thinks he's not new
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>>136510461
Dumb ass if it's fake you can report I yo icann
Stop talking out your ass
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% This is the ISNIC Whois server.
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% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See https://www.isnic.is/en/about/copyright

domain: archive.is
registrant: DP1659-IS
admin-c: DP36-IS
tech-c: DP36-IS
zone-c: CN25-IS
billing-c: DP36-IS
nserver: anna.ns.cloudflare.com
nserver: ben.ns.cloudflare.com
dnssec: unsigned delegation
created: May 16 2012
expires: May 16 2018
source: ISNIC

person: Denis Petrov
nic-hdl: DP1659-IS
address: B?lkova 16
address: CZ-11000 Prague
phone: +420 775168924
e-mail:
created: May 16 2012
source: ISNIC

person: Denis Petrov
nic-hdl: DP36-IS
address: B?lkova 16
address: CZ-11000 Prague
phone: +420 775168924
e-mail:
created: May 16 2012
source: ISNIC

role: CloudFlare NOC
nic-hdl: CN25-IS
address: 665 3rd Street, Suite 207
address: San Francisco, CA 94107
address: US
phone: +1 6503198930
e-mail:
created: January 19 2012
source: ISNIC

Information Updated: 2017-08-06 23:28:12
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>>136504318
>>person: Denis Petrov
Russian hackers confirmed
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Also, those archive.shit links don't even open for me.
I don't know if it's because noScrripts or what, but either way fuck that bot, I open source links and don't give a fuck.
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>>136515754
>Russian hacker named "archive.is" confirmed
>.is domain
>ISIS cyberwar confirmed
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27s
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Here's an archive link to this thread
https://archive.fo/jlHA0
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>>136516101
>.fo
>could stand for Federated Oblasts
RUSSIAN HACKERS EXPOSED AGAIN
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>>136504318
some select anagrams of the name Denis Petrov:
Inverted Ops
Evident Pro
Deprive Tons
Vested Prion
Sniped Voter
Provides Net
Edits Proven
Vendor Spite
Deport Vines
Void Serpent
Rode Penis Tv
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>>136516384
>Rode Penis Tv
Look into it
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>>136516384
wtf i hate archiving now
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>>136516384
This is vary offensive, pls delet now
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>>136515586
I thought that you have good intentions but you are actually imbecile. Give him at least chance to prove himself or fuck off.
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>>136516384
>Inverted Ops
Wow lad, you are on to something
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>>136516227
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>mad that archive.is is being used more often than other archiving sites
It's almost like you don't want the website to become mainstream
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>>136516384
>rode penis tv

big if true
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>>136516384
Inverted penis
evident serpent
deprive voter
vested pro
sniped ops
provides prion
edits vines
vendor net
rode tons
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>>136516384
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>>136513739

The ABC advertises the ABC, lol.

They also shill marxist garbage.

It's best to suppress their ability to gauge metrics to facilitate in cutting their funding or getting employees shafted for no-flow traffic.
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>>136504176
This is a legitimate concern.
"Based" norbot could just be harvesting information on people that are interested in specific things (Conservatism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Interests, Etc.).

In other words, if the norbot was a liberal/left-wing/commie bot, it would be ALL TOO EASY to create a list of "targets" based solely on the websites people avoid giving clicks to.

John Smith - Address - IP - Other - Political interests based on avoided sites: Conservative

Something like that. I hope this makes sense.
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>>136517425
>All of that effort just to find out something that you can obviously see by lurking for five minutes.
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>>136510361
>>136510458
We don't need to "trust" OP to question anything, you fucking retards.
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>>136517301
Yes. And that's literally the only thing they can advertise.
The dailymail on the other hand has many many sponsored links

>>136516586
>Give him at least chance to prove himself or fuck off.
He's been doing it for months and hasn't yet proven that he has no affiliation with any of the archive sites, even when directly questioned about it.

>>136517720
Nor do we need to "trust" norarchivebot to be giving us links to his archive site.
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>>136517658
Can I see your name and address from lurking for five minutes?
Can I see ANY OF THAT INFORMATION from lurking here for five minutes?

The answer, my cock-swallowing friend, is a hard no.
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>>136504176

All links should be archived for the sake of not directing traffic to sites chosen by whoever is running the bot.

/pol/ shouldn't give ANY of those hook nosed kikes in the lugenpresse a single click more.
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i havent used a single archive link i always use the original
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>>136518018
He said he will add other sites later this day. I will come back in two days, if nothing change I will start shilling this threads personally, I promise.
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>>136518018

It's less important to fuck with the dailymail's metrics, though I would like to see them black listed too.
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>>136504176
good thread op hav bomp
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>>136518389

>>136518568
So I've been hassling him for weeks about this, I post this thread and all of a sudden he's going to fix it?
Uh huh.

>>136518689
I would be more unhappy with dm getting my clicks than the abc tbqfhp
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>>136517425

Sort of. There a multitude of ways to do that though. If he randomizes his links that would make your assertion somewhat invalid.

They can just use 4chan's tracking cookies directly for this anyway.
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https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/dnsmasq
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>>136504176
Bots should not be allowed. If the poster archives his link its fine. If he doesn't it's his choice. If you don't like unarchived link then don't view the thread. That bot makes every thread the same.

> archived shill link :xd
> thank you nordbro awesome yay
> guys I don't like this bot...
> wow are you shill?
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>>136518835

I wouldn't. The ABC is pure cancer and a public funds leech.

Dailymail is retarded, but it's a privately funded cess pit.

I'd like to see him archive all news links and definitely YouTube links to prevent Google using those metrics to censor content.

Also randomizing archive services.

That should appease most.

The paranoid should employ a user end service like a VPN anyway.
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>>136519020

To be honest 4chan should run it's own bot to archive all news links.

No different than when moot introduced captcha to combat Kimmo.

Easier and less troublesome than auto-banning "banned" links.
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>>136518835
>So I've been hassling him for weeks about this,
What you've been pushing is for me to archive all links. Which goes back to what I said about concern trolling. It would get me banned and that's your point.
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>>136518872
>They can just use 4chan's tracking cookies directly for this anyway.
There are many many users that are both liberal and that only lurk.
It would at least thin the herd.
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>>136504176
>Everytime I see the orbiters saying
>>hurr durr, thanx Based NorLinkbro

You should already be aware then that shitty newsmedia spammers come here all the time to shill their inflammatory nonsense. Possibly even individual writers based on their tweets.

The archive bot is a great way of dealing with this. The financial incentive is ruined, thus limiting shitposts and upping the quality of content.

You have to spin your wheels pretty hard to paint this as bad, even if there are deliberate selective exceptions (which is just something you assert), a 90% removal of filth is still removal of filth.
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>>136519206
That fuck?
How would archiving all links get you banned? Explain.
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>>136519279
He's not painting this as bad at all. He's asking why only specific sites are archives, while others (That DO SERVE ADS) are not.
This is a legitimate question.
You are somehow ignoring the point and addressing something he talked about IN THE OP.
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>>136519187
Why should a poster have a bot in his thread he didn't ask for it?
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>>136519206
No I've been asking you to be more discerning in which links you do and don't archive. Based on what I've seen you archive you VERY CLEARLY have an agenda and it's not just to
>take dollaryoos from lefty shithole sites
Don't be a fucken lying cunt m8.


Just to be clear I've asked you
>Can you let us know what domains you own/are affiliated with so we can eliminate them?
And you still haven't responded.
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>>136519490
>how would posting every 10 seconds get you banned
It would also wear me out.
>>136519629
See above. OP has been in an autistic rage for weeks and he's going to stay that way. I'm doing my thing and the mods are ok with it.

None of these shills have added
archive site suggestions to >>136510724
Makes ya think.
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>>136519759
>I've asked you
>just to be clear ive asked you
You, sir, are a fucking wanker
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>>136519938
>I'm doing my thing and the mods are ok with it.
And that I believe is proof that archive.is and 4chan have a financial agreement.

>None of these shills have added
archive site suggestions to >>136510724
Makes ya think.
>>Can you let us know what domains you own/are affiliated with so we can eliminate them?

>>136520211
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>>136519938
>None of these shills have added
archive site suggestions to >>136510724
Makes ya think.

Uhhh...
>>136510212
>Wayback's been mentioned and webcite
:->
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>>136520519
To be fair he didn't said that there was no suggestion but that shills didn't gave any.
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>>136510724
>archive.org
N O P E. They'll remove archives on request, no questions asked.
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>>136520372
>>136520752
>webcite
I missed that one. Can't use it however because of its purpose and the way it implements archiving (you need to provide a bunch of info and confirm by email.. for every single link).
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>>136521096
So, this "random" mix of archive sites will be all the domains you're affiliated with then?

Also since we're chatting, scripting in py?
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>>136519752

It's not about what the poster wants. It's about stopping 4chan from being used as a spam outlet.

Same reason we got captcha in the first place and autoban links.

No one should be free to shill their garbage here and ruin the board with spam.

Archive allows the content to still be posted and discussed, without allowing them to use 4chan as a marketing tool.

Unless your motives are dubious, there is zero reason to care about auto-archiving.
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>>136520372

They DO have a semi-financial agreement in a way - it stops people fucking up 4chan with spam.

It would be better if the mods implemented a wider ranging filter, but nord-bots the best we have now.
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>>136504176
i love norgebot even more because of how absolutely anally devastated these kikes are about losing their clicks
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>>136522094
>So, this "random" mix of archive sites will be all the domains you're affiliated with then?
You're going to sound like a raving loon if this is your new angle. With every post you show yourself to be an insincere person and you seem to be that type of person who always tears down instead of building up.
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>>136523008
>With every post you show yourself to be an insincere person and you seem to be that type of person who always tears down instead of building up.
Thanks for that ever so concise breakdown of my psyche based on a few posts on an anonymous Hanovian Needle Threading imageboard.
You seem like a cunt.
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Guess who.
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>>136504176
Its a bot moving traffic through a particuar site. It has no place being allowed on this type of board. Any argument to the contrary is either misinformed or flat out shilling. The fucking piece of shit needs to be banned one way or another regardless of the reason for its existence according to its owner for the simple fact that the bot is straight up advertising.


If the bot is allowed, what is next? Any corporation sending bots to spam their ads too?

ffs this board claims to be anti shill. On that fact alone the bot needs to go.
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>>136524479
>b-b-but muh based norgebot..

Don't sweat it m8, money has obviously changed hands.
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>>136504176
>>136504318
I was about to call you a shill but then I realized that's an interesting point.
>archive.is
>.is
Oy vey!
Maybe they're data mining to see how many /pol/lacks visit whichever of their sites.
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I still haven't got a straight answer either.
I won't be using archive.is for the foreseeable future.
Thanks anyway, "Nor"bot.
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>>136524949
Literally exactly what I said here:
>>136517425
And was pretty much ignored.
Interesting.

I wasn't against nordbot, I was just curious at first, but this thread has changed my mind.
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>>136517425
>>136525054
>>136525173
There is no question there. I'm not even sure I understand most of what you're posting. I don't harvest information, no.
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>>136525522
You put a lot of effort to create completely useless post, have a (you)
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>>136504176
>There is no free lunch
There are some opinions floating in this thread and elsewhere that the NorLinkArchiveBot is ok because the owner is doing it for free. It should be pointed aout that whether the owner of the bot is putting forth those opinions or other persons either way they need to go fuck themselves becaue noyhing is free on the internet. Anything that appears to be free on the internet just means that the person using it is the product. Not only that but it is a well known fact that a great way to start a money generating business on the web is to start out free and either add advertisement or make it a fee based service later after the business gains rep and users are dependant on it. So argument that the NorLinkArchiveBot and archive.shit is coll because
>hur its free without ads
can fuck right off as there is nothing stopping it all from turning around and made into a money making venture.

Also tracking arguments aside, the bot and archive.shit is already a fucking bot ad service generating clicks and visits ffs.
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>>136525523
>I don't harvest information, no.
We'll just take your word for that shall we.
I think the pertinent question is
>Do you have any agreement (financially or otherwise) with eith 4chinz and or the domain holders of archive.* ?
It's alright - I don't expect a straight answer - you haven't given me one yet, why start now?
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>>136525817
>reading a thread I am interested in and taking note of shills and useful idiots is time spent uselessly
nah. I called out your bullshit and that alone was worth my time spent.
>7 posts by this ID everyone of them shilling for nordbot and archive.shit
be thankful flamethrowers shoot firel over the internet you piece of shit shill nigger
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>>136526629
be thankful flamethrowers shoot shoot fre over the internet you piece of shit shill nigger
typo
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>>136526222
>>136526433
I just realized that some people don't know this because so much time has passed since the gamergate thing, but archive.is is the same site/dude as archive.today. We've been using it for years and there is an absolute shitload of discussions about whether or not it's a shill or not, just like with anything else on this and other sites with more right-wing users. You can't hold an unpopular opinion or link to something without someone thinking you're a shill of some kind, that's just the nature of the beast and it's generally healthy to question everything.

However I don't have divine power to come down from the heavens and prove a negative (that archive.is is not a shill).

>>Do you have any agreement (financially or otherwise) with eith 4chinz and or the domain holders of archive.* ?
Nope. I remember contacting him once but he blew me off.
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>>136504176
FYI,
There are other benefits too besides denying them ad revenue. It is a snapshot of that page at that specific time, so if they for example remove important info from a page (to cover their asses etc) you can still view the original.
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If you got a problem just make your own bot
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>>136527475
>More bots on 4chan is the answer!
Can't say I agree.
>>136525523
>I don't harvest information, no.
Perhaps a bot does. I hear you make them.
Call me paranoid, but nothing is for free.
You are either the customer, or the merchandise.
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>>136527433
I'm pretty sure it's a live archive. Wayback is definitely a snapshot but I thought archive.is was live.

>>136527197
>it's generally healthy to question everything.
We agree on something at least.

>Nope. I remember contacting him once but he blew me off.
Who's "he"? Japmoot or the Denis Petrov. Your answer ain't so clear.
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>>136504176
Isn't /pol/ like 2500 people?

How much money does 2.5k visits give these websites anyway? Assuming everyone here clicks the link.
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>>136528238
>nothing is for free.
If you see a problem that annoys you and you fix it, do you have an ulterior or financial motive?

I started doing what I do because one day a full third of the catalog consisted of obvious shill/bait/troll threads with links. You know the ones. Buzzfeed writer said X. APOLOGIZE! <freshly published article here> etc.

>>136528489
Denis.
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>>136528238
What's wrong with more bots? I'd like to see every single link on this website archived
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>>136504176
>Time to have a look at the pros and cons.
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>>136504176
>Question everything

Abc.net.au IS state run media
>State run, just like NorK tv
>State run
>State.. run

Don't support abc
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>>136528932
>If you see a problem that annoys you and you fix it, do you have an ulterior or financial motive?
Why do you always address things with a question?

>
I started doing what I do because one day a full third of the catalog consisted of obvious shill/bait/troll threads with links. You know the ones. Buzzfeed writer said X. APOLOGIZE! <freshly published article here> etc.
You haven't stopped any of them. You've added +1 to their post counts. Anyone who doesn't use ad-block is retarded in the first place, so ad revenue can't be that high for the shills anyway.
I'm not saying "Hey stop it!". In fact I would say HEY GOOD JOB if you are indeed doing this seemingly 24/7 job out of the goodness of your heart and with zero compensation, but I can't believe that.
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>>136528932
Thank u Norway goy! Fuck the msm
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>>136529178
Oh ffs.
I haven't suggested SUPPORTING the abc you idiot. I'm asking why a news site with NO advertising gets archived and dailymail which clearly has a fucken shitload of advertising doesn't. Particularly when the express purpose of archiving is to not give ad revenue sites dollaryoos from users here.
Read the fucken thread Johnny Cumlately
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>>136529553
>Anyone who doesn't use ad-block is retarded in the first place
Most of us do that. And it didn't solve the problem. Media that's obviously created just to attract audiences that are angry at it shoots to the top seemingly every time. An example I used before: The MTV videos with 95%+ downvotes. The numbers just keep climbing, climbing, all on the backs of angry people from 4chan/reddit/etc, and then they finally enter the featured sections where they get pushed on the mainstream.
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>>136515057
Nordbot already said he is switching up archive links to be more than the one. Your argument has ended.
The fact you got so much attention is beyond me, but still, a solution to your strange concerns has been discussed and decided on. Yet... You don't seem satisfied. Almost as if the result you wanted was something else entirely.
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>>136530090
>Triggered

Calm down there Goldstein, ABC is cancer, your argument was invalid as soon as you implied otherwise.

Not allowing them to monitor web traffic to their sites by using archive is a great move by Norway bot. Government types love stats as much as they love budgets, deny them both!

>ment is Latin for mind, govern is English for govern

Is your ment being governed???
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>>136504176
I fucking hate aussies so God damn much
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>>136530347
>Almost as if the result you wanted was something else entirely.
It all goes back to a thread weeks ago where he asked me to remove ABC from the list. I wouldn't and he's been freaking out ever since. He's not an ABC employee, just someone with a odd type of patriotism who fell into an obsession.
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>>136529553
It's an avoidance. He won't give you a straight answer. Likes to accuse other of doing exactly the same thing too.

Mods, this thread has run it's course, we now have new users coming in and posting cyclical arguments that have been bashed out already.
Plz feel free to move it to bantz or kill it.

>>136530347
But he hasn't confirmed that the "more than 1 links" he's going to use have no connection to him. See his answer to me when I asked him if he has a connection.

>>136530476
Fuck off autismo

>>136530522

>>136530630
A complisult as an attack - that is new.
Cheers.
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>>136530630
I can believe this. He seems to be strangely focused on ABC here.
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>>136530803
>he could own all of the archive sites!
Well then, don't click his links. If he goes through that much trouble then his corporation, NordBotArchive LLC deserves the profits.
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>>136530803
go home john, youre drunk
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>>136530630
>aussies are screeching autists
Who'd a thunk it
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>>136530119
>MTV Videos
Those have been caught faking views. I'm not sure it was the 1000 hits from 4chan. Regardless of that, how is it that denying them ad revenue (from seeing ads) didn't deny them ad revenue?
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>>136531229
Ever since we extended the working holiday visa to Canada this has been happening
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>>136531627
>Ever since we extended the working holiday visa to Canada this has been happening
As bad as leaf posting was around election time, I'm not surprised
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>>136531291
That's interesting, got any sources? I don't doubt that they would.

>how is it that denying them ad revenue (from seeing ads) didn't deny them ad revenue?
It's mostly males 35 and below that use full ad blocking condoms. The demographic is still useful to them because they give views and interactions (a very important metric) that launches their media to the masses.
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>>136530522
This is shit posting on a new level
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>>136519938
Just get a 4chanpass so you don't have to worry about posting limits.
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>>136519938
>I'm doing my thing and the mods are ok with it.
So if i make my own archive bot, I won't get perma banned?
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>>136516384
Man, I'd totally use Void Serpent as my gaming tag if my name was Denis Petrov
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>>136531788
Welp, seeing my way out of this creative attempt at promoting ABC from an Aussie with no bantz. I will keep clicking your archives nordbro.
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>>136532168
Bots are against the rules, so you would.
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>>136532441
>Bots are against the rules
Right right, I meant if I quit my job to patrol /pol/ 24/7 and deny click bait shekels
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/pablovaldivia/hollyweed-4ever?utm_term=.pmzgXZqkpe#.xkpZ23XOqb

Oops
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>>136532441
>Bots are against the rules, so you would.
Further proof that there is some form of complicit agreement between the 2 parties.
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>>136532965
>form of complicit agreement between the 2 parties.
Lmao
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>>136532441
Can you give some more info on how the msm Jews us with the data we give them?

Also any suggestions on how to jew them back?
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>>136504176
>I have also seen the same archive posting style using other flags - probably safe to say that if it is one person running a bot, they're also using a proxy or vpn.

This is fucking dumb. People see norway guy posting in every thread and copy his style. It's literally memeing you fag.
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>>136524949
>>136525173
.is is Iceland. Israel is .il
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>>136533029
Watch me not deny it and him getting stuck on it for weeks.

>>136533097
That's a huge question and I'm just a normal anon, I don't have all the answers. Watch Jim's videos and follow what he's doing generally, it's relevant. He currently goes under WeWuzMetokur on twitter and Mr Metokur on youtube.
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it's just wonderful. the asspain
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>>136504176
Norway archive bro did nothing wrong
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This has made me think.... inorite!
4chinz already has a redirect feature, why not simply use that to setup a regex for ((certain))) domains and send them to the archive rather than having norshitposter being our link policeman?

>>136533097
Some bots are less against the rules than others?

>>136533306
Breddy sure the bot was posting last night with a Malaysian flag. Same
>Archive this now
post at the same speed.

Maybe I'm just paranoid about archive posters
>inb4 /x is thatta way.

>>136533543
>Watch me not deny it and him getting stuck on it for weeks.
>Watch me use another ploy to avoid answering the question and imbly that OP is a homosexual
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>>136509241
That Koala looks scared
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>>136533782
>Some bots are less against the rules than others?
Meant for >>136533029
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>>136533520
I was never confused as to what .is is for.
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>>136525522
Fuck off, gooboy.

What's it to ya?

Don't click the links you absolute, complete, dicksucking faggot fuck
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>>136528826
>>Isn't /pol/ like 2500 people?
add a couple 0s perhaps. 4chins is top 250 sites globally
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>>136534093
Alexa rankings are entirely bs

>It's a browser plug in that you can install
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>>136534224
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>>136534226
i don't doubt it, but 4chan is fuckhuge compared to even a couple years ago. and pol pulls a lot of that traffic good and bad.
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>>136533782
>Breddy sure the bot was posting last night with a Malaysian flag.

I've done that before. Norwaybot has reached meme status which you can't even deny because you're making a thread about it.

>malaysian browses /pol/
>hits refresh and finds new thread with link leading to libshit trash
>copies norwaybot style he's seen 1000x

This can happen with any number of posters at any time of day. What's next? Are you gonna point out "that guy that says kek all the time under different flags"
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>>136534224
Really?
Questioning whether or not we should De facto trust a fucking bot maker is somehow indicative of a kike now?
Man, I want to believe you, but you sure are acting hyper-defensive and are arguing like a jew.
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>>136534514
He's been sperging for weeks and then he comes up with that phrase. I'm laughing IRL.
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>>136504176
It doesn't bother me. I just see it as a free bump for my threads.
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>>136504176
Gee, I wonder (((who))) could be behind this post?
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>>136534427
Yeah, I think you're right. Seems a lot of us have been banned from every other platform so that's feeding the surge too.
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so? nobody deserves my clicks
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>>136534647
>I'm laughing IRL.
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>>136504318
>>136504176
Fuck off salon.
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>>136535079
>>
>OP doesn't even know how Nordbro operates
All his bot does is detect urls and tells archive.is/.fo to create an archive of the url. Nordbro himself posts the urls manually. He's stated this multiple times in the past.
The reason he is so quick to post is that the archive page url is generated before the archiving process starts; the url leads to a live log of the archive process until it is complete, after which the url shows the completed archive. TL;DR even a BR with 140 ping can post an archive URL before the archive is complete.

https://archive.fo/8JNzM
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>>136504176
He's not a bot. It's an autist who uses a script as an aid, but there's still a guy there. If he were just a bot, he wouldn't reply to other posts and discuss things too.
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>>136504176
Report the bot every time you see it. It's against the rules.
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>>136535360
See?
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>>136504176
The only sites it doesn't archive are sites that are known to spread Russian propaganda like RT, zerohedge, breitbart, etc. This makes me think it's related to russian propaganda in some way.
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All these idiots falling for shitty bait
Summer is over faggots
Please leave
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>>136513769
They do if they detect certain keywords and notify their handler.
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>>136536054
Dude this aussie has been making ass blasted threads all day.
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>>136536054
Fuck off proxyfag
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>>136536290
N E W
E
W >>136536268
Just hide and ignore
This is basics of fighting shitposting
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>tfw you try and point out that /pol is too trusting and naive and all you end up doing is ending up being the screeching autist Auscunt that called out NorLinkArchiveBot as a bot.

I think I'll stick to this >>136535720
from here on in.

>>136536268
No he hasn't you fuckwit.
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>>136511203
google canvas fingerprint, nigger, if you're pleb, then lurk moar, but don't be a fool and stick to the herd mentality
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>>136536744
>>136535720

See >>136535360
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>>136513739
>What advertisers? The abc has VERY strict guidelines for what they can advertise and what cross site stuff they can do. So, again, what advertisers does the abc have?
screw the ABC, the more views their website gets the more funding they can justify demanding.
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>>136504176
>>136532570
Gee anon MSMs are in full force eh?
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>>136536744
>No he hasn't you fuckwit.
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I've seen at least 3 just on my phone at work/gym
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>>136537225
>Gee anon MSMs are in full force eh?
You fuck with the shekels and they sperg out
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>>136536957
It's a monitored script. I'm breddy sure that's a no-no.
>he's using semantics and nomenclature to avoid the consequence
Are you sure you shouldn't be posting under a Norwegian flag?

>>136537024
>he doesn't understand how the abc get it's federal funding
You're probably too young to get the ref. but it's gotta be worth more than 8c a day, right?

>>136537340
I'm he. This is literally the only thread I've been in all day. Since I started 4hrs ago.
>inb4 NEET lyfestyleeee

Dodging doing any work today and shitposting on 4chinz instead.
Self employed so the boss doesn't really give a shit. He can go fuck himself anyway the lazy cunt.
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>>136504176
Nordbot is doing us a service. He prevents jewish websites from getting shekels. He is a good robot.
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>>136537723
>>he doesn't understand how the abc get it's federal funding
of course i don't, why would i know that. i just figure it's a good thing if fewer people use their website and watch them on TV.
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>>136537723
>I'm he. This is literally the only thread I've been in all day. Since I started 4hrs ago.
Then there's a group of shills all doing the same thing. See here >>136537225
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>>136537723
>entire thread defending Norgebro
>accuse them all of being him

no shekels for you
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>>136537917
That's fucken Merkin flag you dolt!

>>136538002
You made me spit my coffee you cunt.
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>>136538198
>That's fucken Merkin flag you dolt
That's why I said there must be a group of you shills. Didn't say they were all aussies
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>>136538198
I don't get your issue with nord bro?
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>>136538584
>Didn't say they were all aussies
Umm

>>136536268
>Dude this aussie has been making ass blasted threads all day.

You LITERALLY did.
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>>136537723
>It's a monitored script.
If the bot's not doing the posting it's not against the rules.
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>>136538987
And then when you said this was your only thread, I said there must be a group of shills. Do you have zero reading comprehension?
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>>136535264
I get that reference.
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>>136506417
"doing god's work" - kike phrase.
>>136509241
what's the story with hooktube? is it legit?
>>136510461
don't worry, answered that question.
>>136513523
why do you do it? traffic must cost, space must cost? just from concern, or do you have a monetisation method? props if just because cause, but i'm sceptical. even with >>136528932
>>136532182
void serpent rode tv penis, no less
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>>136538002
I'm here. Still wondering why I should blindly follow links because /pol/ says so.
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>>136504176

The dox of Anon5 was a false flag.
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