Who collapses first?

Russia.

Placing bets on China.

It seems like America and Russia have some cards up their sleeve regarding "disclosure", and it seems like China might get left out of it.

America

Russia has tons of resources left in the more northern parts
China has Africa and Canada to leech off of

America has only America unless they start invading some more nigga's or manage to space mine in the short period of time before the collapse

>>136499863
China has a massive real-estate bubble that will burst any year now, trashing their economy.

>>136497960
America and China are just giant bubbles ready to pop.

>>136499973
So does America and Canada
and half of the world

China's economy is flux
The means the government can rise and lower the price of their currency at will in order to better suit the needs of the time

>>136497960
After China and India nuke eachother my guess is china

China will collapse. America will just rot. Russia will wither away.

>>136500266
While Macron and Trudeau conquer the world together.

USA

The entire backbone of their country is built behind the idea that no one will ever panic again like they did in 1929. If it happens again, the government runs out of money and loses control of the population, most carrier groups (and therefor global projection) will be mothballed meaning no more influence anywhere and the american dream will be absolutely shattered - you'd not only see a massive decline in immigrants but also americans themselves will run away from there. Their entire stock market turns unprofitable and suddenly the belief in capitalism vanishes - you'd see #OWS on steroids. I'd be amazed if the country doesn't turn communist by then.

The bubbles of China and Russia are nothing comparable. Russia collapsed and nothing significant really happened.

>>136499973
>America has America
You hush your goddamned mouth you disgusting sea rat.
America is the greatest and richest land that God put on earth.

>>136497960
define "collapse".

If economic collapse, prob Russia then China then US.

If you mean full on collapse (like state destruction collapse), then the US. Russia and China are too ethnically and culturally homogenous to collapse upon themselves. The US on the other hand is one hard war away from splintering.

>>136500193
Found the chink.

>>136497960
I didn't realize there we so few Russians. I always figured there were more of them than us.

>>136497960
China. And that will drag everybody to shitland

>>136497960
USA
Too many niggers and illegals
The whole rest of the world is coming down with us

>>136500266
This is the best possible scenario.

>>136500382
This. Economically the US is stronger than Russia and China. But it is also strongly under (((their))) influence, they are pushing a race war every day now. Socially the country may balkanize. Russia is very diverse too but Putin has a tight grip on that shit.

>>136497960
US because of demographics. The US won't exist in 100 years. Even if China were to collapse, it would still be China and eventually bring itself back together. So China can't actually collapse.

>>136500437
Most of Russia is a frozen uninhabitable wasteland, so not really surprising.

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>>136497960

China. They are long overdue for a collapse.

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>>136500666
>post yfw Fallout was right all along

>>136497960
Russia has already collapsed several times, they can only improve their situation. The US will just take everyone else's shit at gunpoint. China is the weak link.

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>>136500757

>>136497960
China collapses if America collapses.

If Russia collapses America takes over the ME completely and then probably collapses because it no longer has eternal war to funnel its resources into and keep its population occupied.

If China collapses I'm not sure. I think America and Russia will live with paying higher prices for domestic goods.

>>136497960
If America collapses, you can bet your ass Russia and China will collapse right after.

>>136500921
Russia might annex parts of Manchuria as well

>>136500666
>but Putin has a tight grip on that shit.
he really doesn't

>>136499863
You're absolutely insane if you think the US would allow itself to collapse before we went full 4th Reich on the world
Especially with the current administration, we'd "deal" the fuck out of you all

>>136499973
>trashing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3CKgkyc7Qo

>>136497960
>>136499973
>>136500757
>>136500396

>>136500872
This guy gets it. America is the future actually. May have to heat it up and bang it with a hammer but she will be stronger than ever.

China has no real hope for survival. They probably wont die off altogether, but without being the filter on the drainage dump to the western world, they wont make it on their own.

If they are totally opposed to the west, in a war for example, they lose their strength, being the bottom feeder of the west. they would be turning on the hand that feeds them.

Russia will carry on as it always has.

American ideology will secure the existence of white people world wide.

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A Holy American Empire to rule the world for 1000 years.

America, the Heartland. Jesus Country. Western Nations as satellite states. Maintaining individuality and autonomy. Retaining history. Australians stay Australian, but with American Freedoms and Liberties. British stay British, the French, French, etc.

Full Freedom and Liberty.

The biggest baddest empire this humanity has ever seen. Waiting for Jesus Christ to save us. With Holy Spirits help. God protects us from Jewry and any form of oppression.

This is so the European(white) male can live well. That's all its about. So we can start families and continue the works of our Father.

Retain our history, thousands of years in the making. A global effort by the commoner. For our greater good. We craft our future.

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>>136497960
Either China or Russia.
I'm betting on China though

>>136501167
>You're absolutely insane if you think the US would allow itself to collapse before we went full 4th Reich on the world
>Especially with the current administration, we'd "deal" the fuck out of you all

I think you are way more optimistic about the state of your army and their confidence in america than I am.

Well the issue is not just US army but the entire western world armies (NATO countries mostly).

I think if things get tough, to the point of military draft being implemented, in the case of a symmetrical war, western soldiers simply won't make the cut. What do they have to fight for? Nationalistic pride has been reduced to nationalistic shame. When the situation gets dire, people will simply run away.

>>136497960
Holy shit, Russia and China are so pitiful when compared to the US. How do so many retarded people put them on our level?

>>136497960
Filty commie chinks will get btfo Once famine hits and the radioactivity from the fish start destoying them from the inside out. Cancer rates will sky rocket and population will slowly begin to mutate into full blown locust like in halo. As soon as you hurt them they will explode and spew their radioactivity onto non infected people causeing an epidemic of yellow fever to sweet across asia and most of europe. The only true safe space will ultimately be south America mainly towarda Argentina which will be the last stand for white humanity to keep themselves from deteriorating to commie filth

I'm guessing America simply because people are too delusional about the state of the world. They won't be able to accept that the good times are over when things finally crash but China and Russia have survived on bad times since forever.

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>>136497960
Serious geopolitical thinkers and strategists, people we don't see on the news, have been expecting for a while that China and Russia to go through some very hard times in the decades to come. Chinese investors seem to love putting their money everywhere except in China while the politics within the CPC seem to stagnate. That's on top of their demographic troubles. Russia's trouble is that it's economy is among the least dynamic of the "major" players internationally in that it's overwhelmingly dependent on natural resource exports. Couple that with dwindling demographics and an unknowable political future and it's an awful bet as well.

As much as Europeans and edgy teenagers like to theorize about the demise of the US, it's in fact that nation that is best positioned to gain in the 21st century.

>>136501575
lol'd.
what country are you in, and are you even white?

that's not how it works m8.
>>136501167
>You're absolutely insane if you think the US would allow itself to collapse before we went full 4th Reich on the world
muh sides bruh, too much. honestly, can we speed this up somehow

>>136497960
How the fuck is China considered a better country than Russia? I'd kill to be able to live in russia if I lived in China. Chinese are literally asian niggers.

China of course. Why do you think so many wealthy chinese are BTFOing out of there and buying land in San Francisco

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>>136497960
Russia already collapsed in 1991. #2 in power? With an economy smaller than A FUCKING LEAF? Lmao! China is already #2.

I doubt China and USA will fall anytime soon and when they fall it probably won't be for any of the reasons commonly stated today.

>>136497960
>27th
i prefer living in russia to america or china

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>>136497960
Even the silhouette shows a lardass
>america

>>136497960
the only correct answer is none of them. china, together with russia will increase their influence edging out the US in geopolitics until they're irrelevant

>>136501900
good point

>>136502503
>t. shithole where people still starve to death

>>136497960
China will have stability at any cost. They've tied the government's legitimacy to economic performance, but they understand the need to shift as the wind changes. China will always plan the long game.

Russia has managed to hold on despite some pretty brutal economic conditions. Russia can withstand setbacks, but will always be Russia.

America is becoming browner and more divided every day with every gibsmedat born or imported. America's greatest strength is the petrodollar and it's ability to enforce regime change against anyone that would dare plan to stop using it. But the fatal flaw in that plan is that it's resulting in the browning of the West. Even going back to toppling South American dictators and getting latino swamped.

Civilizations and governments can survive a lot, but they cannot survive brown people.

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>>136499488
Just because they are fiscally conservative and would not bail your indebted ass doesn't mean they will collapse.

>>136501167
>allow itself to collapse

the US is already collapsing retard.

>>136502645
Well, neither can they survive fascists, as history has clearly shown.

Russia will never die, China will crash but recover, the US will go up in flames.

>>136501163
He doesn't really need to. Even Russian libs are for the russian world, and aren't insane enough to give strategic parts of Russia off to anyone. American cocksuckers are laughed at by everyone there.

>>136502875
>eternal kraut
you are not in the position to badmouth anyone with what is happening to your shitty country

>>136502807
t.cocksucking slav subhuman

Putin and putinism is retarded, planned economy will never work once that retard gets replaced and the head of government loses so much power that putin has because of propaganda russia will start to decline real soon

>>136501575
Nope not at all, no one has seen the full force of the US military
>Inb4 you're getting beat by goat fucking farmers
We absolutely decimated their population, do our boys die? Yeah, do we kill dozens of theirs for the one of ours they get? Yeah
Also, you can't win a war against a guerilla force without violating some faggot rules
If we wanted to we could glass the middle east every day at noon mountain time for the next 10 years
You're hilariously underestimating what the hell the US military can rain down on someone if we remove our gloves which we'd certainly do if we were close to collapse and wanted to conquer as much as possible
I did infantry and when you're in you learn how our war machine is really supposed to operate and let me fucking tell you, it's god damn terrifying
>>136502006
Don't know how to speed it up but you can rest assure you'd be amongst the first to receive a dosage of freedom and be liberated from your socialist overlords

>>136503098
Is America really any better?

>>136497960
Since the most important resource a country can have is its people, I say America.

>>136499863
>America wouldn't annex Canada
>America wouldn't just take whichever parts of Africa you're vague on
>They would just sit back and let the slanty Jew do as they please

For being intelligent you really are thick as shit.

>>136503117
>denbts

>>136503220
they're trying to improve while krauts elect Führer Merkel for the 4th time like the dumb leftard sheeps they all are

>>136503220
>
mexicans are better than sandniggers and actual niggers.

>>136499863
>America has no resources left
Congrats on having the most retarded post of the day.

China, their middle class has grown too big, they'll want more rights etc. They also fucked their economy and with the 1 child policy they will need niggers hands to dig the grave of their parents

>>136503383
>america
>trying to improve
LOL?

>>136503132
>underestimating what the hell the US military can rain down on someone if we remove our gloves which we'd certainly do if we were close to collapse

and that will be the end of your empire

>>136503383
>a fucking faggot

>>136497960
The one that loses it's super majority ethnic group first.

>>136503471
China has over 1 billion people yo retard, they won't need to import anyone for anything. Especially not niggers.

>>136503471
well, china also has the world's largest reserve. 3 trillion i think. and they were the only nation not impacted by the 2008 financial crisis. hard to tell

>>136497960
>>136500382
Russia is as homogenous as France or even less so. Even China isn't that homogenous but han chinks outnumber everyone

>>136503629
>everyone is chinese
>not homogenous

>>136503132
your entire post reeks of arrogance. Learn from history, how many empires fell? How many were foreseen to fall?

An empire is not just about it's military might. Every man and woman have a beating heart. Why should an american man endure a long and arduous war if it's not for a just outcome? Why would he risk his life for a state that does not reflect his values?

Us, hopefully.

None of these. I think the EU and the Euro are going to be the first to fall.

Russia has already collapsed so many times, they're going to continue being poor alcoholics, but they'll remain number 2 and eventually 3 for a long time. No one is going to invade them and they have enough resources to sustain themselves.

China and the US are both ticking time bombs. I think China's economy is going to burst first but they'll mostly recover. The US (((financial elite))) can't to prop up their ponzi-scheme forever. I think we have 5-10 years before the US economy collapses. When that happens the elites will try to replace the dollar with something new and the US will continue to exist in name, but it's spirit will be dead and it's demographics will ensure it withers away.

The fall of the US will be because of native traitors, not foreign enemies.

>>136503473
>LOL?
so you are confused about whether to laugh? krauts are always so fucking retarded

>what is Trump
>what is MAGA

>>136503483
Lmao ok little nigger
I don't know where you're from but if it comes on day I pray you're one of the last of your country men to die
I want you to take it all, see the charred women and children, the broken glass, collapsed buildings (assuming you have any), smoking heaps of molten steel and cry as you see that Abrams rolling towards you. I want you to realize what happened before you die.

>>136497960
China, because of the local governments debt and private debt. China has a worse bubble than the US real estate market had in 2007/2008.

>>136500193
Yes but this wont go on forever.

>>136503117
>Alexios Denbtulos

>>136497960
I hope to God that the US collapses first.
Whites don't have a chance in hell as long as Best Goy keeps bombing anyone who dares to think of self-preservation.

>>136503885
>not papadopoulos tsipras

>>136497960
None since is modern Times it's almost impossible for a country to collpase even if a majority of population lives in poverty. Even Syria didn't fully collapse. Hell even Yemen didn't fully collapse.

>>136503698
Every empire before us didn't have the ability to project its force on the world the way we can, keep that comfort dick in your ass
We'll come for you wherever you are

Unpopular opinion but I'm going to say America. We're being infiltrated from the inside out and we're actually fighting each other on allowing it to continue. China and Russia just need to keep doing what they're doing now and continue the shift off the (((global banks))).

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>>136500763
Really noodles my noggin.

>>136503856
>snek flag
>being a globalist JewSA bootlicker
For what purpose?

>>136497960
1 of these countries has a SJW epidemic

guess

Not my country for sure.

>>136504168
Fuck I forgot I was in vacation in Russia. I actually live in Switzerland

>>136500351
This is life not EU 4 faggit

>>136504073
God fuck yourself faggot, I'm pro small government
That doesn't make me an anarchist, if this country's existence is ever threatened we're taking everyone down
Stick your little "muh goy army" shit up your pathetic weak ass

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USA

This bitch is like roman empire 2.0 The Titanic Edition

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>>136497960
The European Union. Than the EU will take America and China with it. Russia will go full on imperialist. Putin will become a czar.

>>136497960
who suffers less?

>>136497960
>russia
Not in foreseeable future. We still have enough food to feed the slaves, and when we run out of it, we have plenty of resources to trade for food. Hell will freeze sooner than this country becomes adequate

>>136503607
Felt like a sinking boat, when their gov limited cash outflow (btc rose so hard). China is mostly a big factory stealing blueprint here and there

>>136503856
i'm just being realistic. every world war has resulted in the previous empire being btfo

>>136497960
United States of America will collaps, simply because the globalist see a problem in that countries energy demands, they consume 20 tonnes per head. Way to much. USA needs to die to save mandkind, and also to "forgett" that huge dept they created. Their will be a new union between "usa", mexico and canada. Mostly mutt races where whites dont exists.

Russia can not collapse, it is undead. Maby change name or way of goverment like they do every 100 years, But it will remain the same old empire.

China have population problem, which leads to high water demands, they only way to fix that is upcoming war with india, which got the same problems. China will go down south and conquer all meaningless countries, except vietnam. Russia/Kazakhstan will take places from china. China will grow stronger and bigger but keep the population lower and quality of live higher. India will cease to exists in UK.

>>136497960
If the USA jew is smart, his next target will be Venezuela - lots of oil and oppresive dictator.

>>136503857
but they have 3 trillion to pump into the economy. i don't think the US and russia have any reserves in case of financial collapse. well, the US has like, 100 billion or something. not sure about russia

>>136497960
China and Russia have had the most recent revolutions.

>>136497960
America dies first.

Seriously, go and look at a road map of Eurasia. If you haven't figured it out yet, the reason America is losing its once omnipotent power is because of Eurasian integration and their recent explosion in infrastructure. Why does this matter? One thing everyone here needs to understand is that America, just like Britain before it, is primarily a naval power. The US Navy was and still is the dominant military force on the high seas, by far. Twenty years ago this meant America was able to enforce sanctions on Eurasian countries by simply threatening a blockade. India, China, Iran, and Russia relied on ports that the US could cut off anytime it wanted. They didn't have the vast pipelines, railroads, and freeways through Central Asia that they have today. Back then control of the sea meant control of the vast majority of global trade.

Flash forward to today. China and Russia are not only much more economically powerful than they once were, they also have the infrastructure and the means to conduct large scale trade with each other entirely over land. Not only does the west have no control over these lands, they're hundreds of miles away from America's navy. Now when the US cries "sanctions" the eastern nations shrug their shoulders.

The fact is that the majority of the world's largest markets now have the ability to bypass the sea when conducting trade. America went from being a naval base that ran the world to being an island, on the outside looking in at the next great region to be developed. It is TOOTHLESS. It's almighty navy WORTHLESS. What can it do? Cut off the Eurasian countries from South America? Who gives a shit? This wouldn't matter so much for the US except for the fact that they pinned the value of their currency to a resource they no longer control. Antlanticism is dead, naval supremacy is dead, and with it the petrodollar is dying.

>>136505270
NO!

India superpower 2020!!

>>136505366
Meaning you have 3 trillion in reserves doesn't mean you can pump it all in the economy. China needs debtors for itself to be a creditor. As long as the US is in massive debt to China, China will never let the US go down and vice versa.

>>136505482
Which means you're overdue

>>136497960
I say Murica in the next 10 or so years unless they get their shit together and start to worry about internal problems rather than playing into world police and acting like the whole world is their nigger ghetto.
Next would be Russia once Putin dies, because there's literally no one else to replace him and still continue his work. Nearly all "elites" either jews or treacherous liberal sold-outs who will sell everything just to be allowed to live somewhere in EU or USA. Of course once value of EU or USA drop or if they collapse under all their internal problems they might become ultra-patriotic, but I don't expect that.
China will stay permanently and conquer the world in the end if nothing drastic happens, like nuclear war or something.

tl;dr EU.

>>136505366
>100 billion or something.
you sound like a hillbilly dumbo

lol thats nothing, putin got 200 billion alone.

russia got 7.49 trillions in reserves.

>>136497960

USA = Brazil

Russia = Better off, more conservative/traditional and more white

China = Collapse cus usa = niggers and can't afford chinese good anymore.

>>136504253
>you can only be an anarchist or a kike-cheerleader
Cuckservative LARPer detected

>>136505952
You're retarded if you think this is how it will go or this is how the world works.

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>>136497960
US or China

>>136500351
This sounds like wishful thinking more than an actual argument based in fact.

>>136497960
America still has at least 10-15 years before whites become a minority while China is just one gigantic bubble economy ready to pop.

>>136506018
>he says with that flag on

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>>136504004
how's it going with your plans to oust assad

>>136497960
China's overdue for regime change and 30+ million deaths
Russia is on the brink
Anyone saying the U.S, unironically, is a retard.

>>136497960
>implying that a three way war between America, then Russia-India, and China-Noko wont bring Fallout into real life

>>136501370
This deserves a (you)

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>>136497960
>Who collapses first?
Canada

>tanking economy
>large influx of refugees now that America is holding back their gibs
>housing crash caused by chinamen
>lead by a man who gets knocked out in one punch and gets over emotional to a unicorn puppet
definitely Canada

>>136506373
The US painted itself into a corner with its reserve currency status and far-flung naval empire just like Britain did, except now when the petrodollar dies there won't be any reserve currency to take over. You really don't get just how bad this shitstorm is going to be.

>>136505915
>he believe in putin the emperor meme

thats now how russia works, putin is not in power, his role is that to play constitutionist thats it.

liberals never ruled anything and jelzin wasnt selling russia out, he sold soviet union out simply because they didnt want to share riches with all the stans.

russia is ruled by same old monarchy which uses various proxies according to it need and use agents and shemes to keep in power tricking the west and russian population.

>>136507046
By the time the U.S either fails or integrates into a new world order, everybody on this board will be dead. Realistically China is doomed to fail, again, for a 4th time in a life time of some of the oldest people alive today. Russia is about to face it's 2nd in a life time if more countries continue to sanction them.

>>136505576
they're getting rid of US bonds though. they're also stockpiling gold, investing in solar cars to become petro-independent, and positioning the yuan to be the world's reserve currency. the US will simply become a vassal state

>>136497960
The US has over 120trillion in unfunded liabilities they have to make up for in the next 10 years.
All of those baby boomers are getting ready to retire and the government has been kicking the can down the road to the point they're out of can and road.
There's no fucking way they're going to be able to tack that kind of debt to the tax payer and expect the economy to survive. Unless we have another world war in the next decade that wiped out another 25-50% of the young this country is in deep shit.
And when it goes you can bet your ass we're taking everyone else down with us.

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>>136506833
>who will collapse first?
>Canada
well your aren't wrong kiddo : (

>>136505930
>lol thats nothing

that's my point

>>136506316
I don't know dude you're free to disprove anything I said. Maybe you're trying to say that you'll keep all your CSGs mobilized in a second Great Depression, or maybe even that there would never be a second Depression ever which is a very wishful thinking. But let's focus on the carriers specifically - imagine for a second that you no longer can police the world, what happens to the world? The WW2 was nothing compared to what can happen, it was just a minor territorial conflict between Germany and Poland, while there are hundreds of territorial conflicts all over the world right now that are waiting to explode in a war if only you stopped policing them, which you will if you can't fund power projection. All the soldiers and money lost in fighting ME wars? All pointless. Ukraine? Pointless. Liberation of SK? Pointless. Chinese and Russian suppression in general for the past century? Pointless. All of them are now unleashed to do as they please.

And that's just your power projection. I haven't even bothered to write about your domestic issues, ongoing division between classes AND races, ongoing capital flight away from the US, Government debt and Fed-backed mortgages (i.e more debt) and so on.

It is true that there isn't currently a country that is as wealthy as you but that comes at a great trade off - you're also gambling on a lot of things to achieve that. China can collapse and their population wouldn't give a fuck because they're poor and uneducated anyway, what changes for them? Russians are used to it, while Europeans are kinda expecting it. No one over the world would really care if their own nation collapsed as much as the Americans would, because you're addicted to perpetual prosperity and have no idea how to function without it. But most importantly, the sole thing you cannot survive without - attracting valuable immigrants through the American dream - will instantly vanish. Your reputation as the ultimate country you'd want to live in is gone.

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>>136507504
Read my earlier post about Eurasian infrastructure. The entire bedrock of US power is gone. Their ability to dictate global trade is dead, their carrier groups have lost the power to park in front of China or Iran and completely cut them off.

>>136507649
The US is too involved In china's economy for one of them to fail. The Us needs China and China needs the us.

>>136507504
>new world order
thats where the problem is, new world order doesnt like consuming countries, the globalists dont want you to eat earths all resources and energy.

almost all country leaders agree that usa needs to go.

their must be new kind of country, mix between old usa, canada and mexico.

currency will be amero.

>>136507682
>And when it goes you can bet your ass we're taking everyone else down with us.

unless china bails you out and you become a chinese colony

>>136507828
> The Us needs China and China needs the us.

yes, this is indisputable, but the relationship is creditor-debtor. china owns the US, and therefore influences its policy.

>>136501575
America when facing an actual uniformed army wrecks face in short order. We destroyed a quarter of Syria's air Force in a single off shore attack with zero retaliation. Our only shortfall is fighting insurgency since we have rules of engagement and try not to hurt civilians.

Given all out war, I'd say we could easily take out the people that aren't even willing to meet their 2% NATO requirements.

>>136507722
you said usa got "100 billions or something."

100 billions is very little money.
>>136507795
why use insult ? dont believe putin meme. they will put another puppet if he dies. russia cant be ruled by one guy, stalin tried and got poisoned. their is a family which rules everything in the shadow, using secret services, military and agents.

>>136497960

Russia is a paper target that has an economy supported only by selling their natural resources. They will never be a threat to us because it's likely that China will take them out first to get a land grab of Siberia/far east. Russia's population is shrinking, education and healthcare are Africa tier and the military is outdated soviet junk. The country is only kept afloat by selling oil and natural gas. Once US starts sending liquefied gas to Europe and Saudi's build a pipeline through Syria/Turkey (once Assad goes), then Russia will fall back into 90's style poverty.

China will continue to rise, but the US is not going to be affected as they will try to take Russia over first for the resources.

In order for the U.S to collapse, the entire planet would have to suffer a cataclysmic near extinction event such as a massive asteroid strike or a new super virus, things that would destroy the rest of the world with it.

U.S is not going anywhere anytime soon.

>>136505299
I'm pretty sure they're not interested in heavy oil. They would have invaded us before.

>>136500351
Bank balances are insured against international funds. If we panic, so do you.

>>136507982
China is in the same boat M8, they're economy is propped up by FIAT currency who's only intrinsic value is faith that it's worth something.
There's not enough gold and silver in all of civilization that going to dig a country out of a 120+ debt.

>>136503678
Look up ethnic groups within China. Ethnic minorities on the border of South East Asia are not what you would consider East Asian but they are still "Chinese". It's a nationality, not a race.

>>136497960
If one collapses the others collapse as well. True story.

>>136508278
>100 billions is very little money.

i know retard. that's why the only way the US can avoid financial collapse is by inflating its currency, which makes it even more worthless

>>136508577
>not enough gold and silver

there is. and it's in china

>>136508282
In what year you live? It's certainly not current.

>>136508282
>not knowing the primary source of Russian power is geopolitical
>not knowing the Chinese and Russians are firm allies and will remain that way until the US loses its superpower status
>not knowing that Assad will never be defeated, he has the support of every major economic power outside of the west
>not knowing that it's impossible to ship natural gas over the atlantic at competitive rates

All that needs to happen for the US to collapse is for it to keep trying to run the world through its navy. It's kind of like how the USSR tried to run the world with its army, even though it was cut off from the world at large. Now that the vast land masses of Eurasia are actually being developed for trade it's the US and naval power in general finding itself cut out of the equation. What will it do when the world's largest markets are no longer utterly dependent on sea trade? The only option it has is to try and invade Eurasia and cut it in half.

>>136508946
The entire value of all the worlds gold combined isn't even 9 trillion. Unless you know of some secret vault in China that has 10x more gold in in then all of the gold mined throughout history?

>>136508282
>(once Assad goes)
citation needed

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>>136509227
You stupid little nazi, of course we still run this bitch. We own North America, South America, the Middle East, Africa, we own it all. Wtf does Germany have? Nothing, you faggots are just slaves to the Muslim caliphate. Suck my dick Hans.

imagine the fucking Carnage if America had a great depression today.

It would be like Ferguson times 10 billion

>>136509566
dude, when you declare bankruptcy, the nation goes up in firesale prices

>>136509962
>It would be like Ferguson times 10 billion

Only in black majority areas.
The vast majority white areas would starve to death slowly and most of the Spic areas would be abandoned.

>>136508982
agree

>>136509862
This is what a dying empire's cheerleaders look like. Not only do you ameriboos not even understand what made America powerful in the first place, you maintain your arrogant bravado in the face of steep decline. The last thing you fags will do is drop the act and actually have a reasonable debate because you know you'll get BTFO.

136501370
a u t i s m

the reptilian overlords/Rothschilds have scheduled the collapse this Fall.no exact date as of yet...

>>136500132
But at least China has been stock piling gold.

>>136509862
you mean (((they do))). you own nothing trevon

>>136510142
>the nation goes up in firesale prices

No, the debt goes up for purchase at fair market value.
Value, which i may add, is based on the very currency China bases it economy on.
If the Murican economy goes belly up then there goes China's biggest customer. They wouldn't have enough resources to fund their own economy let alone buy another nations.

>>136497960

USA is going to be last man standing. As long as we're the last country to collapse we win and will be fine.

>>136510695
A broke seller is in a much better position than a broke buyer

>>136510318
You niggers have been preaching this shit for decades
Including the colossal faggot who's flag you fly, and what happened to him?
Don't worry, we'll collapse any day now, and your little ape offspring will repeat the same shit his subhuman father told him would happen one day.
It's the natural life cycle of the non-American

>>136510860
>denial, the post

>>136510695
see >>136507649

USA. USA decline nation full of transexuals and nigroes

>>136497960
>US first, beauté of our size.
>China afterwards, due to discontent with the communist party
>Russia last if it becomes more authoritarian

>>136503698
The just outcome is our God given right to rule the world as put forth by our forefathers under the idea of manifest destiny. You greatly underestimate the amount of nationalists that remain in the good ol' US of A

Russia, they love that whole collapse stuff.

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>>136499863
What?

The United States encompasses one of the most resource rich landmasses on planet Earth. But instead of destroying or sullying it, we protect the natural landscape and invade shitholes instead.

Rest assured that the United States could stand on its own for a VERY long time if needed to. Things would suck, sure (things would suck for the rest of the world, too). But America isn't going to "collapse" because of its lack of resource wealth.

>>136497960
Collapse?
None of them.
The US is too big to fail.
Russia has kicked out the rothschilds and owes no debts.
China is growing well due to capitolism and is a strong exporter

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>>136508282
>(once Assad goes)

>>136511023
You so fucking stupid you honestly think their FIAT currency will stand the collapse the other FIAT currency propping it up.
You're beyond retarded of you don't get that basic fact in your head.
China has a larger debt to tax ratio then any other nation (6x) that of America. Right now it's the American dollar holding theirs up. If one goes so does the other.
They won't have any money to spend.... you fucking retard. How many times does that have to be said?

>>136499628
>>136500366


>>136510415

>>136497960

China

The US is like some sort of cosmopolitan capital of the world with one of the most solid and entrenched democracies in existence.

It simply cannot fall. Neither can China due to sheer numbers.

Russia can only change for the better. If Russians get rid of the robbers that rule them they can only improve their situation.

>>136497960
>>136499863
>>136500132
>>136500193
>>136500757
Arrrg this here's yer cap'in speakin'. Yer gonna walk the plank an' missin the mainmast an' haul the keel an' grab the doubloons an' dead men tell no tales!

Fuck I hate meme flags and canadians and mexicans and swedes and israelis

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>>136497960
Usa is too big to collapse
Russia has nothing so it wont collapse
China is ripe and ready

>>136497960
>7th best country
What kind of stupid liberal rag wrote this?
#1 and the only 1

>>136510993
This time is different, instead of trying to build a kreigsmarine or people's navy to face you on the high seas the Eurasian economic titans are just increasing trade over land. In the past they didn't have the infrastructure for it, now that they do there's nothing you can do to shut them down. This new axis has an unbroken logistical network all across the world's largest landmass, but you're still dumping all of your resources into the navy like it even matters anymore.

>>136505564
Are you retarded? Our power lies in our ability to project air power over the world. Do you really think land routes are safe from the country with the greatest and largest airforce in the world? We have bombers that can circle the world, that's all that is needed to destroy land routes. A few bombs on your rail networks and bridges and there will be no trade.

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>>136506833
America, its literally already happening.

Enjoy having another nigger president soon

>>136511729

nr 1 is probably one of the Kalmar nordfag viking countries.

>>136497960
Chinese history is marked by not being able to go a century without regime change or civil war or something crazy like that. You can say that that is basically any civilization or that none of that means anything about the next century, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were rocked by at least a major cultural schism in the next couple of decades as they continue to rapidly advance while trying to maintain a rigidly authoritarian society

>>136511797
Water-land, water-air and water-water capabilities are even better

>>136511815
>Enjoy having another nigger president soon

(Crosses fingers) Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby..... Please God let it be Bill Cosby.

U.S. then China from the fallout. Russia has internalised and recovered with sanctions.

>>136508619
SEAmonkies are still Asian you fuck. I know about the different kinds of asians ranging from east asians such as chinese, koreans, and japanese as well as SEA like flips and indonesians. They're all still asian.

>>136511797
But that requires hot war. The great power of navies is their ability to blockade countries and enforce sanctions without actually blowing up targets on land. If you start bombing Russia and China you'll start WW3.

>>136497960

China. Which would also be good and bad for the rest of the world thanks to globalization and the push for a one world economy. Thanks Obama.

>>136511668
Dear God those are men that faggot is hooting at, right? He only comes alive when he's pandering to some degenerate group.

>>136500351
>he doesn't know that a crash is just a wealth movement
Gee, boy you need more red pills

>>136505564

>Russia is economically powerful

Faggot. About 1/3 of their exports are from the primary sector (oil). It is this way because thats what their leadership uses to both bribe and enrich themselves. They have little to no interest in industrialization because that would imply power to others (and in turn a possible threat to the regime), contrary to oil reserves which they already hold.

Their average wage is lower than the minimum in my country! Thats how fucking bad it is there.

>>136497960
All three.

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>>136500351
>Russia collapsed and nothing significant really happened

lolkek

yeah, we only lost like 40% of our territory and most of our economy since 1917 and 1991, also genocided the most intelligent people physically and made them flee the country several times

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>>136512694

>actually its not 1/3, its way more than half!

>>136497960
China will crash like crazy soon.
Russia has proved themselves strong when it comes to dealing with a constant bad economy.
USA will handle just well. Start another war and the market will carry the economy for another decade.

>>136497960

Russia > U.S. > China

>>136499973

They have a monopoly on rare earth, they aren't going anywhere.

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>>136512336

>>136497960
are those numbers accurate? why do I often hear bragging from chinese people about surpassing USA's GDP?

>>136505564
Lmao Russia has the highest rate of alcoholics and aids. >powerful economy
Is going to shit the bed. The only thing Russian is good at isn't making idiots think they're more powerful then they really are.
As for china they will collapse when they can't feed all those mongrels.

>>136512170
comparing koreans to filipinos is lik comparing swedes to arabs you idiot

the races have been separate nearly as long as all whites from all asians

>>136512694
That's like saying Saudi Arabia doesn't have economic power. The fact that Russia is a resource, energy and weapons economy is actually a good thing for them because it makes them so attractive to China and Europe as trading partners. China needs energy and Russia needs manufactured goods, it's a match made in heaven.

>>136500351
t. 12 year old

>>136512209
>But that requires hot war.
Which I promise you we'll start if we begin to collapse and see you as the reason for doing so
Keep moving the goalposts

>>136513153

Yes, but Russia has way more potential than Saudi Arabia in terms of industrialization and improving living conditions. They could be much better now if it wasnt for Putin's style of leadership. The damn country was never really democratic and its rulers are all far from being honest. Its all a bunch of boyars who think the people should serve them.

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>>136497960
USA. The demographic bomb is ticking and most American whites are already braindead degenerates.
Americans think everything will be like the pre-1960s, just because they've elected Trump. Nonsense.
The golden age of America has already ended, God knows when. Maybe in 2001, maybe in 1989, maybe much sooner, we just didn't notice.
Every empire has a rise-peak-decline-collapse pattern, and we're pretty deep in the decline stage. Posting turbopatriotic eagles in front of your flag and acting like everything is okay won't turn back time.
Who knows how it will end. Maybe the US will become an irrelevant Brazil 2.0, maybe it will collapse, maybe it'll drag the world into a war that cannot be won by the US.

>>136512984
>They have a monopoly on rare earth

They have a monopoly on rare earth manufacturing. They lucked out in that their deposits are located in a bauxite clay that makes them easier to chemically separate. There's two main issues with it though. The process they're using is extremely wasteful and the deposit is half as large as they initially assumes meaning within the next decade it's going to run out.

The same with fracking in the US. What they claim can be extracted and what actually can be extracted IRL are two completely different numbers.

Once China runs dry Australia and Malaysia will have the next two largest deposits with the US coming in at a distant third.

>thinking anybody is going to survive the inevitable economic collapse

>>136513233
Oh great idea let's start a nuclear holocaust because the US can no longer dictate global trade.
>>136513477
Putin is playing the long game. What good is industrializing heavily when the US can still blockade you? Once the Silk Road network is all finished (just a few years away) they'll be ready.

>>136513656
70% of whites are conservative. This is fake. And just so you know your wrong

>>136503044
yeah even the russians that say "Russia for Russians" don't mean "Give away the Caucasus" but mean "Fucking kill any uppity mudslimes in the Caucasus"

>>136512092
OJ Simpson?

>>136514115
YES....... yesssss.

>>136513656
Apologize for posting fake shit.

>>136503044
I really wish "Russian libs" from your post existed. Our libs are for returning Crimea, many welcomed the sanctions, majority are russophobic to the core.

lol china is way more powerful than russia
>>136503629
russia is 80% russian and 90% white

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>>136514226
>>136513926
Accept your fate.

>>136497960
>Who collapses first?

What did Trump promise?
America first!
America first!
America FIRST!!!

America, hopefully.

>>136513843

>implying there isn't a way to profit

You niggers better have your money at the right spot at the right time. All you fuckers talk about how doom and gloom it's going to be, but are you actually preparing?

I agree, there should be a large correction in the economy, but there is a way to profit from any collapse or how ever big it is.

The wealth transfer will be amazing and you make as much money as you want.

>>136513907
Which is all I've been saying since my first post, if you think we're going down without dragging all you disgusting fucks down with us you're sorely mistaken.

>>136497960
The US has 100 years to fix their politics or it will become Civil War 2.0.

>>136513656
Nógrádi/10

Official:

Russia, that country is nothing economically and Putin is over reached.

China, real-estate bubble, terrible products, they are basically third worlders who make cheap stuff.

USA, but at the current state they can easily be world first for centuries. Actually they are in the early stage of their empire.

>>136508282
you lying shit, russia's population is growing and so is the birth rate

also i don't know where this meme about china taking siberia comes from, they haven't even made any moves to towards mongolia let alone russia

>>136497960
Well with 8 years of Trump, the US will not collapse. Hopefully he finds a way to lengthen his term, so he can continue to MAGA.

>>136514676
I should have clarified that I meant "any nation" by "anybody"

You're absolutely right though, you can get ahead by buying gold and silver now.

>>136514737
So you admit your only options are murder-suicide or a descent into irrelevance? Death is your only escape from decline. Either way you're day is done, you'll never have the mono-polar world model back.

>>136514910
Nope, it's declining faster than anywhere in the west. Memes aside, Russia is a terrible place to live.

>>136497960
China, next time the global economy stops working there will be hundreds of millions of angry starving peasants

>>136515095
Ha ha ha, no, you come with us

>>136515259
You realize all Russia and China did to break your power was limit your access to Eurasia and decrease their reliance on the sea? And for that you are ready and willing to destroy the planet?

>>136511490
>think their FIAT currency will stand the collapse the other FIAT currency propping it up.
give me one reason why it wouldn't

>Right now it's the American dollar holding theirs up
being this delusional

>They won't have any money to spend
what is gold

also btw, when a nation declares bankruptcy, the debt's written off. everything else is sold at firesale prices

>>136511283

Lol. So this is how cannon fodder think?

>>136515229
142.8 million in 2007
146.8 million in 2017 (144.3 excluding crimea)

>>136497960
I can see China getting balkanized one day. There military is so divided and the communist party/government is losing control. Expect multiple Hong kongs to happen and other ethnic minorities in the east and south to secede.


USA could fall because of the multiculture and economy. It is a ticking time bomb.

I don't see Russia falling apart. In the 90's they had a smaller economy than Venezuela and look at where they are now + Russia is recovering again at the moment. Maybe Chechnya will try to secede again but I doubt that will end well for them

>>136497960
Sweden

>>136503439

This. America has been purposely using other countries resources and reserving our own. What kind of education are you millennials partaking in?

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>>136514825
>but at the current state they can easily be world first for centuries
*drops mic*

People who discount Russia don't understand how much untapped resources and land they have in Siberia.

With modern technology and an influx in population into Russia from overpopulated Europe, Siberia will become increasingly developed

Which country will be the first to go full Hitler and nationalize the banks to implement autarky?

>>136515229
This is literally wrong. The ethnic Russian population has a fertility rate of 1,7 higher than any western country and white Americans besides Australia and New-Zealand. Belarussians and Russians are the only white people in eastern Europe that are actually growing.

>>136508282
Nice memes US got played by Russia in Syria

>>136515259
>being this delusional

you'll do what Israel tells you do kike slave

>>136499628
This.

Also gyna is pretty late to the world power game. Also the being a single country game. Wait, no they haven't even figured that one out yet.

>>136500382
The US could never again fight a war that kills 50,000 like Vietnam. Whites will walk away (balkanize) before it happens.

>>136515856
Although Russia is developing fast they are still miles behind western countries in human development. I think in the future like 2050 Russia will be really strong and rich. The Soviet union and Russia always managed with less but could still compete with the US. If Russia had 1/3rd of the US spending on its defense I could see them becoming a huge threat

>>136500508
Yeah, that's what my money is on. I just need 18 more months to prep though.

>>136516373
>Also the being a single country game.
what is multi-polarity

>>136500508
>The whole rest of the world is coming down with us

only those dependent on the petrodollar

>>136515707
the only region in china that could possibly secede is tibet, han chinese are the majority in every other province
>>136515856
russia could house hundreds of millions of people and they will once they get their birthrate up but i'm not sure white flight from europe would be a good idea

>>136516568
Why send your undesirables to die overseas when you can get the enemy to come to you?

Muslim immigration anyone?

>>136516921
Xingxijang or whatever it was called that province in the east next to Kazakhstan has an uyghur majority that grows faster than the Han Chinese. At least according to my geography book from school. (they are Muslims so it could be true) then again they could copy Soviet tactics of migrating Han Chinese to the region.

>>136497960
China

>>136510477
>But at least China has been stock piling gold.
I dont see why this matters. America has been stock piling weapons and ammo, that seems a lot more valuable to me.

>>136517651
>piling weapons and ammo,
that's only useful in hot war

gold is used to back currencies

>>136500757
If only in all this text there was a even a single shred of evidence.

>>136517887
>gold is used to back currencies
Only because we arbitrarily decided that.

>>136518384
>Only because we arbitrarily decided that.

No modern FIAT currency is backed by anything.

Gold was originally because it was rare and had exceptional stability, pure gold never tarnishes or oxidizes. And that's the point, it's extremely rare.
Anyone who thinks any country is going to have enough gold to keep their economies afloat is delusional. Every first world country at this point has more debt then all of the golds value in the world combines. We're all fucked at this point.

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>>136497960

U.S.A without a doubt

Russian and chinese citizens will put up with anything the government does as they have throughout history. The tradition of limited govt. and constitutional rights makes the U.S. populace a lot more fractious and our citizenry is much more well armed.

A civil war in Russia or China would get stomped out by the government in no time with full force, in the U.S. it would smolder for years even after being put down and would probably lead to the balkanization of America.

>>136497960
Who gives a shit? Nation-states will be irrelevant by 2050 anyway.

>>136518384
nope, not arbitrary

China

The US would actully benefit for collapsing, patriots would rebuilt it better turn it is now
The Russia people are extremely hardy. They would survive despite Obama's standing sanctions that are squeezing their economy to death
The Chinese economy is extremely unstable, and their zerg rush military could take on smaller nations but would get BTFO by any army better then the poos

>>136518770
>Anyone who thinks any country is going to have enough gold to keep their economies afloat is delusional.

you have it backwards. in the case of financial collapse, fiat inflates to the value of gold

>>136519207
>The Chinese economy is extremely unstable,

meme. there's a reason the global financial crisis originated from the US

Hopefully none.. There is already so much needless suffering in the world.

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>>136499973
>any year now

>>136500437
There are less Russians than Americans, yes. After the fall of the USSR, however, 30million ethnic Russians were displaced. So the actual population of them is around 180million. On top of that, the USSR would have 319million today. What you're thinking of is Soviet population, which at its height, was more than American. Also, they had an overwhelmingly larger infantry.

>>136517319
Many forget tibet and xinjiang are like on the other side of the gobi/ himalaya, even though they're all china
In case the prc collapses, nothing much will happen between ethnicities, all the potential fighting will be within ethnicities - this include tibetans too (there was a tibetan proletariat uprising seldom talked about)