What would Europe look like with a 2nd Amendment?

>>136484542
they're too retarded for guns >>136485278

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>>136484542

We'd have slightly more guns, probably.

These are per 100 inhabitants in Sweden, per county.

>>136484542
they dont all have that... must of europe is NOT allowed to own guns, wtf is this?

At least in certain parts, it may be like some EU globalist bootlicking politicans wouldn't be in power and some people would not be afraid to voice their opinion freely. Some politicans would even - dare I say - fear the people as they should.
For the cucked parts like the UK: They would willingly dump their means of defense in some bins labelled "Only cowards carry".
But surely everywhere would be at least one puppet organization working towards disarming people for some power hungry wannabe tyrants who will always seek to turn free people into submissive sheeple.

>>136486765
>Stockholm
>9

Imagine if it was 60, and if white Swedes could walk around with an AR-15 on them. No more rapes, no more cuckery

>>136486930
How come you guys don't collect signatures for a referendum on concealed carry?

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>>136484542
Football matches would be bloodbaths.
And by football I mean soccer.
We are brainwashed into associating guns with irresponsibility. I know you Americans use gun ownership (quite rightly) with responsibility and teaching your kid how to shoot is a growing up coming of age maturity thing.

Europeans are forever children and just rely on the state to look after them. Thats why Europe is fucked.

>What would Europe look like with a 2nd amendment?

Well, the body count for Islamic terror attacks would go up drastically...

>>136484542

Many dead liberals

>>136484542
the thing with castle doctrine is that it also make criminals more likely to kill you, and if they're not retarded nigs, they should be able to kill you before you even notice them

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>>136487907
No - it would go down if anyone may be armed.
Terrorists wouldn't get far, would they? Thats the point of gun ownership.

Terrorists couldn't do "trucks of peace" attacks because they would get taken out straight away. As it is now, we have to cower and wait for the police AND THEIR GUNS to turn up.

Thats hoe police stop terrorist attacks - WITH FUCKING GUNS

you twat

>>136488148
You're reaching far. The vast majority of home invaders target opportunistic or easy targets. Criminals would much rather punch out an elderly widow and take her shit than risk getting shot by someone by knowingly committing to an armed confrontation.

>>136484542
Depends. Better self defense laws and concealed carry would probably make us safer and make life harder for criminals. Open carry and buying guns in supermarkets would probably turn a lot of places into a warzone

>>136487796
Europe != UK
Many European countries have 30 guns per 100 people or more.
In Germany, the "Schützenverein" (shooting club) is a social institution present in every tiny town, organising regular large social events. As is hunting.

>>136488414
(Even if I think it could be a bit bad, I'd still want that)
It's ridiculous when some clerc shot a criminal and it's like : huhu he was fleeing, you go to jail

>>136488524
>open carry and walmart guns will make a warzone
Literally how?

>>136484542
Europe would have a lot less invaders if the indigenous Europeans defended themselves.
I now want to see the open warfare.
All this talk is giving me a case of blueballs.

>>136487907
I think they'd be a lot more reluctant to go on a mass shooting if they knew everybody was armed

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>>136484542
>Not just the right to own guns, I know you all have that already.

We have? In Germanistan, you have to have a "good reason" to own a weapon and then you have to go through a very lenghty process to actually get your license. And we're talking about pistols, sports rifles or hunting rifles here. Not at all what the guy on the picture there is carrying. Meanwhile, Allahu Akbars just bring their Assault Rifles from home and shoot up night clubs. kek

>>136488669
>Don't shoot fleeing people.
>always shoot to kill
>if you're not prepared to kill, dont brandish your weapon at all
>"yes officer I shot him intentionally"
>"he was going to kill me"
These are how you save your ass from legal hell. I can't tell you how many people go to jail for shooting dindus because they say something stupid like "sorry sorry I didn't mean to kill him" when the cops show up.

>>136488672
Supermarkets here are very often robbed and have stuff stolen. Even if you still had requirements to buy a gun, the wrong kind of people could get their hands on one too easily if they were stored in super markets. Gun shops here are kind of small fortresses, very hard to rob and very easy to monitor.
Open carry would be an even worse idea. You complain about your niggers and shitskins, but they are just your run of the mill violent criminals. Our niggers and shitskins are actual islamists who want to kill hundreds of people. How can police know if the arab down the street who is OCing and AK is a legal gun owning model citizen or just a sandnigger terrorist?
To this add the violence of our political confrontations of both far left and far right (antifa an fascist movements in Europe are not the same as the antifa US or kekistani fags) and you'll see why It's a very bad idea to implement those two point.

CC and self defense laws however are badly needed. It's ridiculous that you can't shot a robber without going to jail in 90% of cases

>>136489276
but americans can get away with shooting fleeing people if they're in their proprety right ?

>>136484542
acctualy Czech had very good gun laws, and they acctualu made 2nd ammendant to constitution to protect thier guns from brusell

The body count would skyrocket as nogs and muzzies learn to behave. Then things will settle down in the newly white countries.

>>136489419
I know the media likes to scare you with open carry pictures, but it's rare as fuck. I have lived very gun friendly states for 10 years and I have never seen anyone open carry a long gun in real life. I can count handgun open carries on two hands, most of which are fudds on cowboy hats with a gaudy 1911 on their hip.

Open carry is stupid for practical reasons, but it's ridiculous to think it will increase crime.

>>136487722
1. Still too many gun owners here think that's too exreme and would be ammo for the gungrabbers.

2. "B-b-but there would be mass shootings every 0.02 seconds like in America!" Yes, far too many still lap up every anti-US, anti 2nd amendment propaganda piece that is blindly regurgitated by our media.

3. We have (pretty sure) a much more serious referendum prepared to counter the latest attempt by the EU dictatorship to restrict guns even further (just ask czech anons). Since Switzerland (sadly) is in Schengen, that also affects us.

>>136489276
Exactly, and if the perp lives, he got lucky.

I hate shoot to stop/wound/scare fags so much.

>>136489530
No, that's murder.

>>136489530
No, I can't think of any state where that would go down without consequences or at least a tough legal battle. In blue states they would throw the book at you.

>>136484542
Europeans are just Californians+.
If they had a second ammendment it'd be like a giant San Fransisco

>>136489946
I don't know. I just can't imagine sandniggers having the right to OC rifles and police having to stop them constantly. Plus as you said OC doesn't make much sense since it screams "I'm armed! Shoot me first criminals!"

>>136489946
>Open carry is stupid for practical reasons, but it's ridiculous to think it will increase crime.

People who open carry aren't the ones you need to worry about. Criminals never just walk around with a gun on their hip out in the open.

It would look like hell, seriously
Though i would like to be able to carry a gun, the thought of the shitskins outside being allowed to carry as well is scary as fuck. Keep in mind they are freely moving in cities center, not like your nigs who mostly don't step outside their projects

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>>136484542
H-here's your order, sir. Um. It's free!

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>>136484542
Duh.

>>136489209
Being member in a shooting club and going to the range a few times a year is good enough reason though.

Btw you can legally carry gas pistols in Germany that look just like the real ones and are almost as loud. They can also kill a man if you shoot while holding it against his body. You can also fill them with pepper spray bullets.

So just a friendly reminder those things are legal to carry in public, you can get the license to do so by filling out an application and paying €50 tax and the sale of those guns are up several hundred percent since Cologne.

>>136490100
>>136489530

Depends on the circumstances and the state you are in.

Some states have "stand your ground" laws where you can shoot a guy in the street if you are in danger.

I'm sure if some one is in your house its not murder, its self defence.

>>136489541
yes they are resonable (I plan to acquire license soon), but you can shoot real guns just at gun range, open carry is not possible, assault automatic weapons are forbiden, you can't buy them at walmart..so it's still quite far from certain US states

>>136484542
what would Ca?

>>136490276
>Though i would like to be able to carry a gun, the thought of the shitskins outside being allowed to carry as well is scary as fuck
Yea that's kind of my idea as well. Maybe concealed carry would be ok but only with extreme vetting. OC just sounds like a terrible idea to me, at least in Europe

>>136490100
>>136490122
*steals your TV*
*run away*

>>136490276
Nogs travel to white suburbs all the time, and get arrested constantly for loitering. St. Trayvon of Dindulandia got martyred precisely for this reason

>>136489976
Stay strong. You're the only country around Europe that I still respect.

>>136490426
Open carry is less safe than concealed carry anyway (for the carrying person obviously).

>>136489530
It depends on where you live and the circumstances of the case. Shoot a fleeing criminal on your front yard in California and you might get jail time. Do the same thing in Texas and you'll become the neighborhood hero.

>>136488148
>castle doctrine is that it also make criminals more likely to kill you

Is that the shit your (((government))) told you?

>>136484542
huh, i know exactly where this photo was taken, pretty good BBQ for GA.

>>136490426
>mfw you can get gun after 4 years of residence

your gun laws are great compared to ours

My wet dream.

>>136490901
What kind of gun would you open carry, Luigi? Beretta?

>>136490480
There would be more killing between shitskins and white, which is good as it would red pill people way faster.

>>136486971
>No more rapes, no more cuckery
Your country is rape free right?
Your minorities are good boys.
LMAO Yanks are dumb cunts.

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>>136490426
Automatic weapons here require a special process with large fees. So basically the FBI has to thoroughly investigate you before you can own them. A lot of guns just look like they might be automatic but they're 99.9% semi auto.

>>136490603
Muds here are already attacking the cops with fucking fireworks, imagine what they would do if they could legally carry weapons.
It's not like the nog who goes at your house and rob you, muds have a conquest mentality and would shoot your kuffar ass if they have the occasion. It would be war, and a one sided one at that since whites wouldn't retaliate.

We are living too closely to each others too, unlike the vastness of the US in France Mohamed and Momoahmed live only dozens of minutes away from you

>>136484542
It would look just like the USA.

A 54% White continent

>>136490426
Full auto weapons are also illegal here if they were registered after 1986. The older, legal ones are prohibitively expensive. Think $35k plus for a select fire assault rifle and $5k minimum for the shittiest of tin can submachine guns. Also you have to jump through some extra hoops to own them.

>>136486765
>can keep a gun in a safe and it's illegal to carry them outside a shooting range
yeah i don't think you've got the hang of this

>>136490686
Thanks, but don't forget the Czech Republic. AFAIK they have pretty based gun rights for an european nation.

>>136491206
>Full auto weapons are also illegal here if they were registered after 1986

Some dealers are an exception to this.

>>136490806
>be american
>get shot
>muh second amendment

>>136491169
And it's like I'm saying, it would red pill people WAY faster and they would slowly acquire guns to defend themselves. It would be way better to accelerate a "civil war".

>>136484542
It be like every other Muslim territory with guns? A violent, tribalistic wasteland.

>>136491390
be french gets stabbed and then peace trucked

for fucks sake you have TWO years of martial law in your contry

fucking frogs

>>136491342
Czeched.

>>136490873
wrong,
you just need temp residence as EU citizien + written approval from EU state where you have your permanent residency.
tricky part is to pass tests in czech language;-)

>>136486778
Most of Europe doesnt have niggers and muslims.

>>136491554
>martial law
t. idiot

not saying this country is not cucked, but stop spewing non sense

>>136488232
Honorary american

>>136491554
He's a moron, I know plenty of French, hell Europeans, that would prefer something close to American laws concerning guns. At least to defend yourself in your own home and not go to jail because you killed shitskin trying to rob you or worse.

>>136491478
They really wouldn't, do you see californians getting redpilled with mexicunts shooting each others in LA? City people are lost, especially the parisians. As usual it will be the poor fuckers that would enjoy diversity will the rich cunts would live far from everything in their ivory towers (of power)

>>136491823
Yeah, better gun laws before better self-defense laws is putting the cart before the horse. Once Europeans have the right to defend themselves and their property, better gun laws should follow.

>>136491823
I would rather have no guns and no shitskins than shitload of guns and shitskins.

>>136491869
Parisians are a special kind of cosmopolitan idiots and maybe if there was some better guns laws it wouldn't be the same. At least there would be some places like Texas where they would shot shitskins on sight

>>136489276
>saying ANYTHING like that to an officer after a self defense shooting
fucking idiot advice right here
this is what you do after making the 911 call
1. point out perpetrator to police
2. tell police you will "sign the complaint"
3. point out the evidence to police
4. point out witnesses to police
5. will give full cooperation in 24 hours after speaking with attorney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCZXZMYyRl4

>>136492468
Pretty much. The more you talk in that situation, the more ways a prosecutor can incriminate you. And basically no one knows what their brain is even going to do in that situation.

>>136484542
Serious question. Can restaurants and retail stores refuse you entry if you're carrying a gun? That picture is so fucking bizarre to me. Even if you're pro-gun (I have no strong opinions either way), what compels a man to bring an assault rifle into a diner?

>>136494629
>Can restaurants and retail stores refuse you entry if you're carrying a gun?

Yes.

>>136494629
If you make shitloads of exceptions to open or concealed carry it becomes useless.

>be out in town with your mates, CCing for protection
>whoops, can't go to the restaurant, bar, cinema, [public space] or [public gathering] because I'm not allowed with my gun
What's the point then might just always leave it at home

>>136484542
In the 70s and 80s you could by full auto FAL's and Ak's without a licence in Belgium
Thousands were sold ,
Lots of people who owned them never turned them in in the 90s ,
Most of them are hidden in peoples basements
If there comes a race war you will be surprised how many guns there are in Belgium
In the countryside there is still a big gun culture

>>136495750
Too bad some fucker in Brussels seems to be selling off this stack to the Muslims

>>136495706
It depends on the state. Where I am the only places it's illegal to carry in are federal buildings and bars. Private businesses can "ban" carrying firearms but all they can do is ask you to leave and if you refuse you can be charged with trespassing. I CC everywhere and don't care what specific businesses policies are because they don't know i'm carrying.

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>>136491390
>>be american
>>get shot

>>136496244
Are you sure it's not illegal in schools?
But yeah bars for example, stupid enough exception, now you can't really carry on a Friday night walking home from the bar late at night where you would most need it.

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>>136488232
>>136491812
Retarded as well

>>136496515
As far as bars go it depends on state law. I live in Washington and we can't legally carry in bars but in some states it's fine.

>>136496515
>>136496646
And also nobody walks home from bars here. You either drunk drive or call a taxi/uber.

>>136496646
Well I hope you're at least at least allowed other means of protection there like pepper spray or electroshockers

We have it in Northern Ireland and I do carry. No restrictions on what you're carrying, as long as it is wholly concealable and in a pistol calibre. No restrictions on magazine capacity, length, rate or mode of fire, suppressors or anything like that.

I have a Glock 29 as my carry weapon. Until a few years ago, P5 compacts were popular as were the various CZ pistols. I know of individuals with MP5k as their concealed weapon.

Unfortunately, it's not for LARPing unlike 99 percent of American CC holders.

>>136496646
In Colorado, you can carry in bars as long as you're not consuming alcohol in the bar

>>136496820
jang gei schloofen

>>136496820
>allowed other means of protection there like pepper spray or electroshockers

There's absolutely zero restriction on those things. I can buy tazers and pepper spray at the gas station.

>>136496822
Pretty amazing considering not even small calibre sport shooting is allowed in the rest of UK

>>136496989
I meant for carrying in the bar
Some states actually ban pepper spray altogether even though you can still buy actual guns, bit weird

>>136496515
There was an instance years ago where a man with a CC was having a few beers after work. He spotted three guys at the other side of the pub, shaved heads, ripped jeans and very unpleasant looking. One at the front was printing and the other two seemed very interested in who was coming in and out of the place.

Our hero leans forward to pull his weapon out the arse of his jeans. At this moment, the man at the back rolls behind the bar and aims toward him through the doorway. The man in the middle tracks out to cover the front entrance. Front man fans out, with his own weapon drawn, screaming at the lone drinker to put down his gun.

He did the natural thing and fired as quickly as he could toward his assailants. They fired back. People were fleeing, tables overturned, real wild west stuff. The three had the exits covered and called in for some help. The lone ranger managed to get into the toilet, and by the time the Army arrived he had tried to load a pack of Marlboros into the magazine well of his P5 for his final stand.

No casualties, but four very embarrassed undercover police officers and a very annoyed publican. All four were way over the acceptable drinking limit.

>>136489946


I can't get to my weapon faster when I open carry.
how is it "Stupid"...for Practical reasons.
If anything its more practical for me to open carry.

Fuck your dumb.

Learn to words and learn to into word meanings

>>136497343
Different laws. There are some legal CC holders on the UK mainland but they are not the sort of people who you want to meet, or have anything to do with. England and Wales allow firearms to be used to defend the home and property, but nothing outside of it. Scotland is about as restrictive as it gets, aside from the Republic of Ireland.

Northern Ireland only restricts semi auto centre-fire rifles, but there's something called a MARS trigger which is also allowed in England that sort of gets around that law.

>>136484542

Carrying a rifle like these fucking morons should be grounds for revocation of gun ownership.

> loaded rifle
> out of view
> out of reach
> paying attention to mcburger shit instead of weapon

Our original 2nd amendment:

The Evangelical-Lutheran religion is the state's public religion. The inhabitants who practice it are obliged to raise their children in the same. Jesuits and monk orders may not be tolerated. Jews are excluded from access to the Kingdom.

>>136497707
I think it's stupid when people do it but they should still be allowed to do it.

>>136484542
Look at the fucking clip on that shotgun the guy in the brown shirt has. Disgusting. Gun owners should be gassed. He should have to reload his barrel after shooting and not rely on a military grade muzzle loader

>>136496586
Whats retarded.
It makes sense.

The police don't ask terrorists politely if they wouldn't mind not killing people. They just fucking soot them....because they are a danger to the public.

You or I could be trained to shoot too. It just takes some competence and familiarity.

Cops are just people like you or me. They are no one special. They just get training.

>>136490419

Those gas pistols are pretty useless, IMO. Those pepper spray bullets are bullshit compared to actual pepper spray and if you have to hold the gun against someone's body to do some damage, just carry a knife.

>>136497922

Fuck that shit and fuck these virtue signaling fuddfags. Support gun rights, not the right to mishandle firearms like a dipshit. It does nothing but make the rest of us look bad.

>>136498788
I dunno m8. This isn't Chicago and very, very few criminals in Germany actually carry guns. They're also mostly Muslim cowards and if you draw something that looks like a real gun, makes a bang like a real gun and has muzzle flash like a real gun they won't take the time to evaluate.
It probably wouldn't work very well in the US or Russia.

Also carrying a knife can get you in trouble unlike carrying a gas pistol with your Waffenschein.

>>136484542
You'd have a race war on your hands within 2 years.

>>136489530

Yes, if they keep their mouth shut and let a lawyer do the talking.

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>>136498263
made me laff

>>136499187
People who OC rifles like that are attentionwhores but the definition of mishandling firearms is subjective. Liberals think CCing a loaded pistol is "mishandling a firearm".

>>136484542
I would buy a nice cabin far-north and have a storage of like 50 guns, that's for sure.

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>>136496586
After they come for the guns, they'll come for your spears.
How ever will you feed your ten baby mommas then, Shaka?

>>136492468
>>136493157
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

>>136486778
Source? Afaik most, if not all of European countries allow guns with certain restrictions.

>>136500611
UK (except NI) which is probably the most restrictive doesn't allow handguns anymore but does rifles, shotguns etc.
Pretty much anywhere else you can have your guns if you practise hunting or sport shooting, just can't carry them loaded in public.
Don't know if he was trolling but yeah some Americans do believe those things.
Friendly reminder major European countries like Germany and France have around 30 guns per 100 inhabitants.

>>136499306

Depends on the knife. You can legally carry knives. And I wouldn't count on a gas pistol as deterrence. The attacker is stupid, but he knows how rare actual guns are in Germany. And because he's stupid, he doesn't care about the possibility that someone is carrying a real gun. But anyway, I would never count on deterrence at all. If you carry a weapon for self defence, carry something that hurts, not something that is supposed to scare people off.

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>>136491075

Ever hear of mass rapes in Texas, boy? No, but you see 'em in Cali and NY, where there's massive regulation. And don't give me the bullshit that NY or California isn't the same as Texas; we're the second highest in both population (~27 million) as well as land area (roughly the size of France or Germany).

>>136491627
I am jelly. Luckily in poland we can get black powder guns without any license( just walk into shop and buy yourself one) and they are fun enough for recreational shooting for me.

>the original draft of the declaration of human rights and of the citizen clearly guaranteed the right to own guns and use them for defense of oneself, others, nation and freedoms
>mfw there were no gun laws up until 1938
>everyone was packing, people could order anything from handguns to machine guns and canons through mail order
>the magazines selling those guns clearly intended to sell those for self-defense, with drawings of gentlemen and ladies shooting robbers at home and on the streets
>also showed drawings of kids shooting guns at home
>up until WW1, children were required to attend shooting sessions as part of their schooling
>up until the 1990's, guns were commonly sold in supermarkets, and up to 2003 at Decathlon
>full auto guns were possible to obtain up until the 1980's
>up until 1995, all long guns were completely unregulated as long as they weren't full auto and chambered in a "civilian" caliber (like .222 insteadof .223). Only requirement to buy was to be over 18, no registration either
>cheap as fuck pump action shotguns and AR15, Mini 14, Sig 540, Beretta 70, MAS .222 everywhere

Give it back motherfucking leftards, GIVE IT ALL BACK

>>136484542
A lot less cucked.

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>>136484542
White

>>136503933
Yes you can legally carry some small knives but it's much more of a grey area. They can demand that you provide a reason. And the ones you can carry legally wouldn't be much help in a self-defense situation.
I still don't think if an attacker sees you shooting at him with something that for all intents and purposes looks and sounds like a real weapon that they would calculate the probability of it being one (if he even knows the German gun laws well which he doesn't). Most people don't have a death wish. Also that's why you shoot with pepper after the second or third shot. The loud sound also attracts other people which is always good. Pepper spray doesn't do that.
A good compromise could be something like the Jet Protector which is pretty neat, too bad it only has two shots.

>>136504970
Eh, I still remember the 12 year old getting gangraped by like 20 niggers just a few years ago.

>>136505434

Jesus, what a fall from grace if i've ever heard the phrase.

>>136486624
>degenerates killing themselves
good

>>136491169
Eventually your police aren't going to be able to keep up. The population will have to defend themselves.

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Do Euros have Walmart? If not, where do they buy their general store stuff?

>>136509942
Shops