Did anyone here ever go from SJW to far right?

>>136474070
yeh kinda... just when I was SJW that word didnt even exist

>>136474070
wtf happened to sam?

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>>136474228
he's cody now
choked on a five guy's cigar

We don't want any, braindead retards are not needed

>>136474070
yeah, i was quite a sjw in my mid teens

>>136474228
he went too far right and injured himself

>>136474070
me. I identified as liberal until I woke the fuck up to the truth of white genocide. Now I'm NatSoc.
>>136474228
Who? The guy in OP's pic is Cody Cigar

>>136474070
In middle school before I found the teachings of our Lord and Happening god Ron Paul, I used to be a humanist no borders type.
Since then I've seen every single one of my hobbies fall to SJWs, and the workplace and academia and then politics.
Now I'm unironically for rounding up all these pozzed elements and putting them in camps

>>136474070

Many people do. Political leaning is partly tied to genetics and no liberal indoctrination at schools can completely suppress that. At first the kids may think that they are SJWs due to all the brainwashing, but once they get out of the education system and actually encounter some right leaning ideas, they quickly swap sides.

>>136474185
Tell us about it, what made you distance yourself from the ideas you once held?

At what age did it happen?

>>136474228
He must have got in a car accident or something, he's been speeding in a lot of his videos recently, what concerns me more is his leg though, that definitely does NOT look normal.

>>136474070
I used to read commie shit until about the trayvon martin trial and its' fallout.

>>136474070
I used to be an Anarchist and went to Anti-Racist Action shows. Figured, how can anyone be for racism? That's the thing the left does not tell you what they are for, only what they are against.

They are against Racism, Misogyny, Bigotry, Homophobia

But they don't tell you they are for White Genocide, 5th wave feminism, demolition of any faith that is not nihilism at it's core, and peak degeneracy. The end goals of the left are simply a single mixed race where no one is superior and there is no diversity only hegemony. This is a state that craves to be controlled because they are too stupid to think for themselves.

>>136474070

Sort of, I used to be a lot more """liberal"""" before I realized that liberalism had been hijacked by morons and the only sensible alternative was going hard right.

I used to be a liberal, but i'm slowly becoming more conervative each day

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>>136474070
i never went full SJW, and i always loved my country, but i was VERY liberal for a while. im not ashamed, as i view it as a necessary step in my intellectual evolution.

>>136474070
Used to be a bit of a liberal and pro immigration back in elementary.

But the internet back in the day fixed that for me.

Hated Bush, still sort of dislike conservatives but I've went from liberal to fascist throughout Obama's administration.

>>136474070
I sprayed that Rage Against The Machine "raised fist" guy/silluethe on my high school wall. I still wake up in sweat from embarrassing nightmares to this day because of it.
t.Cringelord

>>136474070
Back when I was in high school I was a fedora tipping feminist orbiter "skeptic". I just never stopped being skeptic and one day I started to realize how leftists who I was hanging around with were becoming increasingly dogmatic and cultish. This was before SJWs were mainstream even on tumblr early to mid 2000s and intersectionality was still an obscure idea brewing in some academic back offices.

Now I'm something of a fascists with libertarian tendencies with degrees in business and electrical engineering and all of my former friends are full blown SJWs with degrees in journalism, philosophy, arts and women studies.

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>>136474997

>used to be an anarchist
>thinks people are too stupid to be in control themselves and therfor need both daddies and sky daddies

its like those people who think "x destroyed freedom" or "we can't have freedom aslong as x"

its like you don't understand what freedom even means. Im sorry to tell you, but it means people doing things you might dislike. SJW and nazis need to learn the fact that some people won't agree, and if you think its fine to kill them, then so does the other side probably too.
>wew authoritarians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH_JberBXz4

I found the real reason adult swim fired him.

>>136474070
I grew up conservative and became far right after dabbling in libertarianism.

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>>136475779

I was never sjw but I was decidedly anti racist. In 2012, when the zimmerman saga started and I started consuming redpill content about race differences, I found it physically painful to read; I'd make constant excuses for why the data said what they did, tried every fabrication to avoid the conclusion that the races are meaningfully different, etc.

>>136475779
Tax-payers should be in sole control of the nation, people who do not pay taxes should not have the right to vote.

>>136474070
RIGHT WINGWERS ARE DUH REAL ESS JAY DUBBA YOOUUSSSSS

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What's worse is they never found out who did it. The cops are still searching for a Justin Bieber lookalike in my hometown

>>136474737
>what concerns me more is his leg though, that definitely does NOT look normal.
yeah dude, he lost it in an accident. that's a prosthetic

>>136474070
I've been here practically nonstop for a year and a half. Would still consider my beliefs to be far left and don't really see that changing at any point. Mostly I just like the racist jokes and banter.

>>136474070
When I was in high school I used to have a Che Guevara shirt and listen to Anti-Flag. But then I grew up.

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>>136475779

>also ITT people acting like going from one side of authoritarianism to the other is suprising

you still want to rule other people, its just that your opinions changed, big fucking deal, opinions and feelings change all the time for people who have no standards and no regard for integrity

>>136475779
Cuck centrist faggot.

>>136475929
no problem with that

>>136475863
there you go>>136476048

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>>136474070
i went from right to far right and now that i've spent years on this shithole of a site, i'm slowly becoming leftist.
or maybe i'm just getting older. i still am racist, but i try to spend time with niggers and mudslimes to see if they're capable of human emotions

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>>136476053

im suprised you didn't call me out for being white male too, you fucking bootlicker

>>136474070
I went from bleeding-heart liberal in my teens, to far-left in college, to whatever it is I am now. I remember one particular post on /pol/ about Social Darwinism that made me look like a fool. That was the tipping point for me and then the content from AmRen, reading The Bell Curve and opening up to the fact that liberal "science" is not science at all.

>>136474070
I wouldn't say I was SJW tier, but I was a lib

I still have a hillary clinton t shirt that I haven't worn since mid campaign season

Wouldn't say I was SJW but I was left and now I'm right

>>136474737
Well, the 2015 New Years events in Cologne (1500 women got sexually molested in one night at one train-station each by dozen migranst. That were the final kick I needed -
it boiled quite a while before - I lived like 2 decades with "lefties" that "big city life"- taking drugs, partying, making career, having "lots of friends" - all pretty much selfcentered with mental problems and after all, I felt always kind of empty souled, watching them betraying each other, that you cant really rely on them. Nothing big, but clearly: family tops friends. when it comes down to it.
The other thing was that creeping pussyfication of society, specially young men, degenrated girls - that they all were so consumed with media and "the good life",- ALL of them forgot to take care of classic family - even if they got babies - they pretty much all got "divorced".
that combined with the muslim terror attacks and finally that incredible stoopid idea of uncontrolled mass migration to Germany - I had no choice but to stand up and balance against it.

Living with my wife and kid now on a lil horse-farm in a small town. Well, its kinda tough to deal with that family shit... but deep down and every day it just feels right.

It turned when I was about 40 - really kicked in at the age of 43.
Dont know if I will ever go back into that crazy happy bubble - it doesnt really convinced me ever
- always felt awkward.

Everyone starts as an sjw when young but some of them never grow up

>>136476229
Just choose whatever benefits you specifically the best, even if it means benefiting yourself by having it benefit those you want to have benefits.

Nobody has ever done wrong by going down this path, it only ever fails when people become short-sighted and begin doing what benefits them in the present short-term rather than the long-term.

Nobody is obligated to you or anything you do or own, do not become a slave to man and do not become a slave to yourself.

I use to be a hardcore sjw, mainly with feminism.
Also was a technocrat and had a bunch of crazy communist views.

The two things that changed me was the NSA scandal and the zimmerman trial.

The NSA scandal scared the shit out of me that "capitalist" corporations were using it to spy on me. Than I realized that my ideal technocracy would also spy on people too. I justified it at the time as thinking my government would be morally good so it was alright to be hypocritical on that front.

Than zimmerman trial came and I just could not fucking believe how everyone was so fucking retarded about it. I came to /pol/ as the only escape from retardation and already being a pretty big /a/ weeaboo it wasn't a hard transition.
The memes are what kept me coming back long after the trial and the rest is history.

Before pol two years ago I was really bad. I went so far down the rabbit hole I convinced myself that I should succumb to a black bull and that AIDS was something of a burden that I should take on as a white man, like I could do something about it. So I let a nigger poz me up and now I will truly pay the price for my false beliefs. I do not have health insurance bc Obamacare so I am likely to get some kind of benign infection on the next few years that will kill me. I paid the toll I suppose. Our society is corrupted and wants you to think getting aids from n a black man is progressive

>>136476229
>spend time with niggers and mudslimes
do you let them fuck your gf?

>>136476748
don't have a gf and i'm not interested in your cuck fantasies

>>136476604
bad pasta, try harder

>>136474070
Never been an SJW on the cutural side of things: I easily recognised people needed to grow thicker skin, but I used to be a pretty hardcore commie in the days. The atheist kind - meaning I wouldn't put up with shit from either christians or muslims and recognised that cultures aren't equally valuable (used to go to school with a lot or north-africans and it sucked).

Then I got to work to pay for my own shit, saw lazy fucks surviving on gov handouts ending up with more money than me busting my balls, then decided a welfare state to be unethical and unsustainable.

>>136476537
This is sort of the best way to come in, I think.
You need to know how to behave respectably as a child and as you grow older you need to grow a second set of balls and get hardened.

The best metaphor I can give for it is you need to have a grip on life, you need to have a soft grip at first so you know how much of a grip is too little and then you grow into having a firmer grip until you know how much is too much. You do not want to remove all humanity from yourself and become an ant for society, but you don't want to become society's cum dumpster slut either.

If someone grows up conservative, they're probably going to be a piece of shit when they get older. If someone never grows out of being liberal, they're probably going to be a piece of shit when they get older.

I was a libertarian that thought diversity was our strength, but was never a fag about it.

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>>136476048
>meme flag
>trying to argue

wew lad

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>>136474070
no

>>136476793
>don't have a gf
mohammed and amir have white gfs, i wonder if that's related

>>136474070
No, because I'm able to think critically, also not retarded.

>>136474070

i was a Bernie-bro until i found out the money i contributed to his campaign went straight to Shillary. At that point on I began to slowly become more red-pilled and ending up voting Trump- a candidate I never thought I'd ever even think would make it past the Republican primaries. Now I'm at a point where I'm convinced the only solution to our nation's problems is to establish a right-wing ethnostate. Thanks for corrupting me /pol/

>going from reactionary idea to reactionary idea

I've never subscribed to the outrage machine of the sjw's or pc culture in general but I've definitely been be pinko liberal in my past. Then i stopped being a teenager.

>>136477114
How do you think Trump is doing now? I've heard from a lot of liberals who were considering Bernie are surprised that they support Trump's actions a lot of the time and I'm sort of conducting a poll on it for college.

So far even most of the Democrats who didn't want to vote for him say they'll likely vote for him next election, I guess they're already accepting his as status quo.

>>136476869
>saw lazy fucks surviving on gov handouts ending up with more money than me busting my balls, then decided a welfare state to be unethical an unsustainable.
I don't disagree but if that's what made you realise it I don't think much of your cognitive ability. You stopped being a commie because you were jealous of dolescum, that's pretty pathetic.

>>136474070
I was a hardcore Tumblrina. I actually left Tumblr because I saw an anti-semetic post, and I just couldn't deal.
Somehow I ended up here, and now I realize that Hitler should have tried harder.

>>136474070
I was a libertarian, then a hard republican, now I pretty much think that removing all nonwhites from white countries is the only way to save the world.

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>>136476935

well i would, but they don't wanne argue either, so i have to pick a echochamber, i like the flags here

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>>136476840
Not joking, California is insane with aids acceptance and even has "poz bars" where aids gays meet up. There is also so much misinformation about aids and hiv out here that they will have you believe it's no worse than herpes. California especially SF Bay Area literally puts out ad campaigns about anti discrimination against people with aids like "you wouldn't shun someone with the flu..." and my liberal group of friends always talked about how aids is the burden of the gay man and being a fucking try hard liberal I was I thought my little stunt would earn me some brownie points but they literally do not tell you how bad hiv/aids is out here.

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>>136477676

>>136474070
Well not SJW, but I was a lefty before this migration crisis started

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>>136477950

>on a site that uses matrix terminology ""redpill""
>shits on tumblrfaggots for using harry potter

wew, authoritarians really are all the same

>>136474070
I was what you would call center left at one time 20 years ago. I'm a fascist now

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>>136478066
It's funny that you think you're at all grounded in reality. Please, continue.

I'm a centrist these days. I know you guys hate centrists, but that's who I am. Speaking only for myself, I think that taking any ideology as absolute truth is toxic and foolish. Despite that, I still believe there is objective right and wrong in this world.

I'm a civil libertarian and utilitarian at heart, so that's where I butt heads with both the left and right.

Before I knew a single thing about politics i'd
virtue signal for sex. I was into "fair treatment of everyone man". Looking back I was into equal outcome not equal opportunity. I was a formless shapeless political entity operating solely off my feels so my dick could feel. I have since dedicated time to reading and learning about political philosophy. It was easy when everything was "muh feels", but that person is dead.

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>>136478309

>confuses reality with ideology
why would i continue when you have nothing more to say? You don't kick a man while he's down

>>136477488
It wasn't jealousy, it was an understanding that a massive redistribution of income would lead to abuse.

>>136474070
I was never that far left but I was raised with very left-leaning ideals. The 2016 election was what got me interested in politics, actually, but have been browsing /pol/ since then.

>>136474070
Not SJW, but I was pretty lefty when I was in school and in my early university years. Then I lived right next door to the "poor and diverse people", and that turned me around 180 degrees and made me a hard right winger. From personal experience, not from belief.

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>>136474070
i was not really sjw, but pretty far left
went to a pretty leftist school for 9 years
was for muh immigration and muh equality and stuff
but then the happenigns in cologne and how leftist politicians redpilled me a little bit
furthermore a friend of mine showed me /pol/
in the beginning i was just here for the lols, but the stuff here made for stuff to my leftist mind, than it should have, until i turned full 1488

>>136477840
If no one believes me

https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/06/a-night-out-with-the-h-i-v-positive/

>>136474070
I was kind of a commie in my teenage years, just because I hated the faggy rich kids at my school and I saw the nazi defeat as a slavic victory against germs. But in essence I was always a traditionalist and fetishized masculinity so the transition to the right was pretty smooth once I saw the lefties at university.

>>136476053
thats the best you battyboys got lmao

>>136474070
Once identified as liberal! Ashamed of them now!

>>136475779
Your freedom is just the freedom to buy stuff and consume and have harmless regurgiated "opinions". There is always authoritarianism and violence, just try to not pay your taxes. It's also not about killing people "we" don't like, that's pure hyperbole, but about defining what our countries are about and act on it. Atm for many on this platform, it's a declining multicultural fuckfest full of self loathing whites and cowards.

>>136474070
Hello

>>136475779
>leftists take over institutions
>start in on hate speech laws
>start putting people in jail for their views or making it hard for them to find a job
Well atleast when im in jail for my views I can thank god I was never tempted by authoritarianism

>>136474070
No, but I went from center-right to center-left thanks to the stupidity displayed on /pol/

>>136475779
your Centrism™ worked great for google

>>136481084

>letting a select few decide what a whole collective (country is about)
>also freedom is much more then neo-feudalism ala "((rightwing))-anarchism"

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>>136481232
>>136481452
>>136481084

just read a book, assumptions won't make you smarter, there are more sides then two to an issue

>>136474654
>camps

Biofuel camps.

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>>136479168
This will do it every time. I was all in favor of "Diversity is our Strength", until I actually experienced that sweet sweet diversity first hand. The bell curve is real. Everything you read about the worst ghettos is true.

The biggest problem we have in the west is that liberals haven't been forced to live in the conditions they vote for. They would change their minds quickly if they were properly culturally enriched.

>>136474070
I was raised with just my dad, completely alone in the middle of nowhere with no technology or education beyond science and math textbooks, so it was incredibly easy for him to indoctrinate me into communist ideology.

He died when I was 14, so I moved to live with my cousin in a city. Discovering, first that libraries carried thousands of books, but also that the internet was used for more than basic data transfer was mindblowing. In a little over a year, I completely rewrote my entire identity as a Christian communist ideologue.

Was never really a SJW but one of my redpills was when the police in Rotherham let Muslim men rape and traffic thousands of white children because they didn't want to be accused of "racism' for arresting them.

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>>136481746
>read a book
You have a serious inability to understand the authoritarian perspective or the reasons for it but ill take the time to help you. In my post>>136481232
I pointed out that if we do not combat the left with our own authoritarianism we will be subjegated under their rule, this is not a game of what ideology is the best, it is a fight for survival.

I was moderately conservative for most of my childhood & teenage years, my father is a good man and didn't foist his views on me, rather showed me how fucked up the world was and let me come to my own conclusions.

Then I had my rebellious college liberal cuck phase, which followed for a couple years after. I voted for Obama because I HOPED we would stop waging silly oil wars for the merchants.

Then I realized the party of "progress" and "change" just wants to take my paycheck and give it to lazy fucks so I snapped out of it about 4 years ago. I don't know if the alt-right is the answer but it's certainly better than any alternative at the moment.

>>136474070
So now you're a far-right SJW. Boohoo. You didn't read anything did you. And with that I mean actual books.

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I was pretty fucking liberal little punk but I was too crass for what my friends were starting to become in the early 2000's. I lost "friends" I had for years over single jokes or non PC comments. I was raised by biker trash but the idea if aggressive independence and absolute freedom of speech were instilled in me real early. Honestly ditching the losers that made a pariah out of me for not sharing their insane ideas about "correct" ideas and speech was the best thing that ever happened to me. As a result I dried out, got a career, house, wife, couple of bikes and truck. My life is great and they're still little crust faggots. I win.

>>136482525
no seriously read a fucking book. can't you see that you're a Rightwing SJW? why so echo chamber?
or stay retarded desu the end is the same, you will die.

yeah

Paris was the first happening that I decided to follow on 4can and I got redpilled so hard that ngiht

Never was a leftist in any way, always considered them to be degenerate fucking scumbags that need excessive portions of lead through their thick fucking skulls.
My grand parents and parents before suffered greatly under communism so hating leftists is in our blood.
Hunting commies and leftards should be a sport, just like forest animals. The more, the better.
No I'm not interested in hearing your sick fuckery of an ideology perpetuated by all kinds of kikes.

>>136474228
he has a vagina

>>136482525
well if you want to talk without memes and assumptions, sure.
We can agree with the fact that power is the main focus here, as politics main problem will always be that its bound by the rule of people who have power wanting to preserve it, while people without it want to gain power.

However then you must also see that just using the same strategies but motivated by diffrent emotions and opinions is a meaningless task, as it will undoubtably repeat again once your view is in power. Politics shouldn't be build on assumptions, but rather understand that disagreement is always present, and one should therfor not be a reactionary, but rather, make an attempt at either deviding people with diffrnet opinions (not just race as that is a simplified solution) or unite them

i think the nazis on this board have alot to learn from syndicalists when it comes to solving such an issue as this one

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I went from not caring > Sure seems like these wars are dragging out > Ron Paul seems to make the most sense > Holy shit its all rigged > Send Trump to burn it down and laugh.

Currently enjoying many laughs.

>>136482773
YES EXACTLY. I am a right wing sjw because it is the most effective way of combating the left. Look at your meme flag, anarcho communists have zero influence in modern politics. You are irrelevant and no one cares about your specific brand of communism. You sit on the side lines while real political battles take place, hoping people will join you but they never will. The sjw movement is trendy and other leftists look at you like some kind of fringe weirdo. The alt right is fast becoming the new sjws and if we can gain power we can ensure leftists wont be able to gain power again.

>>136474070
I went from far right to sjw

>>136481323
Yet you're still a centrist cuck

I went from an individualist anarchist to a fascist.

Eh i considered my self a centerist, then after 2016 i was sure i was a nazi, then evaluated my values and principles and im slightly conservative and slightly libertarian. Still pretty centrr by normal politics, but the left seems to think im leading the gestapo.

>>136474070
I was deep in the green square when I was a teen, now I'm all the way to the right on capitalism and slightly authoritarian

>>136481531
>letting a select few decide what a whole collective (country is about)
No, it's not so much about taking over but about sovereignity and the freedom to seperate, the same option other ethnicities have like the jews. Immigration is enforced and presented as necessity without alternative.

>>136474070
Well kinda. I went from:
>Why is everyone complaining about SJWs? They defend people.
To:
>I fucking hate SJWs

>>136474324
He's getting away with it in heaven now, boys :'(

F

Yes, Sargon was my gate/hate keeper

>>136481323
>le radical centrist skeptard
>just a crypto libtard fuckwad, whose feefees were hurt
You're a leftoid scumbag. Fuck off to plebbit to dildo shoving along with your fencesitting 3intelligent5me fuckbois

>>136484021
sounds to me like what i said >>136483254
holds up for most people who charrish freedom and their collective, they could learn the most from syndicalists.

Too many times have the authoritarians claimed "the people" (communists) and the "nation" (fascists), but it can all be done without them. The sad part is that the same that is true for the sjw is also true for the alt-right, as soon as people let their emotions do the talking the cause is already lost, and we are in another circle of hegalian dialectic. It serves the collective, but does not serve the individual. And in the nazis case, i don't think it serves their perticular brand of people. As it isn't that selective.

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>>136474070
The illusions started falling away when I realized Warren, Sanders and other "progressives" were just bullshitters waved around by team blue to trick naive little college cucks like I was.

Then I started seeing pepes and apus and went back to 4chan and found /pol/ now existed. Feeling the blood of leftist sacred cows you once worshipped running hot over my face literally felt like pic related.

Now I understand the dao of the world. The weak should fear the strong.

>>136474070
Kinda. Was all about anarchy, punk, liberalism, white guilt, white self hate, pro black/spic. Thing is, punks/anarchists don't ever live around niggers. Also, a lot of punks/anarchists are richer and whiter than I'll ever be, so it's a game to them. Way more conservative now, and a lot more successful and happy because of it. Also dropped white guilt, everyone on the planet hates niggers yet somehow it's white peoples fault that they are where they're at.

>>136474070
There is no such thing as far right.
Far right is left trying to blame right for it`s own terrorism.

> Oh Hitler was not left, even tho he was a socialist.
> Oh jewgashvili, whose partners mudered millions of Russians was 'right' kind of left.
> Muh horseshit theory.

Non-white so I was leftist by default because (((they))) convinced me that they had my best interests in mind.

I made posts for political correctness and against free speech and all that shit and enjoyed the attention it got me on social media. But I remained skeptical of US (((foreign policy))) and would post about that shit and all the fembots and SJW cucks wouldn't know what the fuck I was talking about. Their extent of politics was identity politics and only then as a reflection of themselves. I was never a feminist but like the shitcunt I was, I made fun of "fedoras" and anybody that spoke against it.

I realized that these people don't give a fuck. That none of this shit on the left is related. You can see it now with the absurdity of gays partnering with Muslims. It's a bunch of shitty strange bedfellows. And even then... groups close to each other on the left all hate each other. Look at all their shitty intercine conflicts. Trannies and TERFs. Sex-positive feminists and SWERFs. "Aesexuals
and "allosexuals." Light skin niggas and dark skin niggas. Different generations of Latin migrant. And all the different shades of their LARP bullshit communism ML vs Mutualist vs Federalist vs Hoxhist vs Maoist vs blah blah blah.

>>136478309
t. what agent Smith would say

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>>136478378
You sound like an elitist prick.

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>>136474070
No.

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>>136474070

When I was in college I thought that capitalism was evil. Not outspoken about it, just fucking retarded. By no means was I a proponent of the democratic party, just your typical "centrist" (clueless retard).

>>136484516
what's with this achronistic conception of the automistic individual? man has always existed in a community of others. individual pursuit is an empty platitude when social conditions are such that only some have what are otherwiseneasily provided for essentials.

i feel like you and i would agree on a lot more than you think

>>136484516
I don't think the alt right or whatever propagates any sort of unified social and economic theory, their position is essentialist in nature and doesn't propagate what should be done but what they don't want. It boils down to letting white countries be white and reducing the academic hegemony of the left, that's all. Even a syndycalist could get behind it, I think, considering the fact the proto-syndicalist in Spain were pretty homogenous.

>>136474070
what's wrong with his right ankle?

>>136485247
Worse. He's a le radical centrist college cuck. These morons are clueless about everything and have absolutely zero opinion about anything, they're the epitome of western narcissism - fuckboiss who stroke their ego and love the sound of their voice, because they unironically they're unique and exceptionally smart, unlike those toxic and problematic ideologically driven SJWs, both left and right. But they sure love to throw lots of contradicting smart sounding words to show off, how euphoric they're at that moment. Ironically, they're what Lenin used to call the scum and shit of a nation.

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>>136474070
Naturally. Im a infp

>>136485410

I think we would agree on alot, im not rigid in my concept of the individual, as he is always definied by his parents,friends and community. But when one asks about freedom ,one also has to acknowlage the fact that humans have diffrent opinions and therfor can choose wheter they see themselves part of a collective or as an individual. Its like the choice one has between staying in the village or living in nature

>>136476266
I like some degeneracy and I believe some things are needlessly offensive to some groups of people. What am I?

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>>136474070
Was a faggy leftist in high school, became libertarian in college, then went full-fascism once I started working. I find a lot of people seem to have made this same progression. First you are a socially indoctrinated good goy, then you begin to question authority and break the conditioning, then you finally realize lack of proper authority is what got us into this mess in the first place. You begin to form real opinions, believe in real things, ultimately understand that not all people or ideas are created equal, you finally become an individual capable of expressing oneself with full knowledge of the human condition, unrestricted by the limits of ideology you can see the world and history for what it really is rather than seeing it obscured through an ideological lens.

Really the development can be summed up as a transition from idealism to realism, the former being the egalitarian and current status quo, the latter being what could be considered pure pragmatic fascism.

>>136483254
You talk about not making assumptions however you have made some big ones yourself. Again, I value liberty and individualism but we live in a climate right now that is eat or be eaten. Also, you assume that the alt right is clamoring for the same thing as SJWS. Many modern "nazis" here are former libertarians and want individualism but will be crushed by the left if they attempt to do so. These nazis are not supremacists, but want separation. The cycle you talk about is correct, just like when the religious right gained power in the 80's the left responded with the 90's, but you misunderstand the ultimate goal. We want an ethnostate, I don't want to rule over non whites or liberals, I just want to be away from them. If the right can gain control of institutions and make if possible for a new nation state to arise we can get our wish. Another thing is that most people are really stupid, and wont come over to an ideology like libertarianism, they prefer what is trendy and in.

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>>136474070
I went from a centrist to completely far right very quickly.(no /pol/ didn't convince me)

>>136475295
>Intellectual evolution.
Fuck outta here faggot.

>>136485432

The point was that syndicalists wouldn't dare to assume to speak for the whole community, but rather as a part of it. So when whites want this white nation, one must ask the nation what it wants. You can't assume your goals are the same as your nighbours.
The alt-right has a similar problem as the communists in their days, by claiming they work for the "people", without proving this sort of statment, and with attacks on portions of the 'people".
How does one assume the role as the collective? Its a paradox in politics, and one who no one has bothered to anwser
the syndicalist way is a better one. But the nazis would actually have to read a book rather then burn it to get this

>>136485042
sounds like you're only exposure of politics was the through the metabolic zuckchamber

>>136485824
a regular human being, like the rest of us.
Its about enforcing said beliefs one should be worried about, and especially if it requires a 'leader' who you simply hope will share your values and entrust him with supreme powers

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>>136474070

i am a mixture of left and right
left of center actually according to those online political tests

I am a poor elitist liberal

>pro-abortion
>anti-immigration(tends to be the worst of the worst(unskilled workers and criminals) who wants to come to america)
>pro-progressive taxation
>anti-welfare
>pro-eugenics
>pro-population control
>anti-ghetto nigger culture
>anti-southern culture/white rural culture
>pro-east asian
>anti-breeder (i hate poor people who breed without the resources and wealth to take care of a child)
>anti-western women
>anti-single mothers(worst cunts on the planet. i would know. i was raised by one)

>>136485801
definitely, that sounds different from what you were previously implying. unless I misunderstood?

>>136485949
i don't idealism means what you think it means?

I wasn't really a SJW but I thought that non-whites and women were my equals , that Hitler was evil and that claims that jews were behind numerous conspiracies stupid. I'm deeply thankful to /pol/ for opening my eyes.

>>136485957

you can value it as much as you like. But if you have freedom as your ideal, you would understand it means that people might do things you dislike.
read>>136486303 about assuming the role of the collective , and thinking you as an individual can demand an ethostate

syndicalism and democracy should be your ways, too bad everyone always has to do the worse things imaginable for 'the common good'
>nazis, communists

>>136486762
*I don't think

>>136486762

not sure which part? But i do always make the case for the individual who chooses individuality , as this site doesn't need another collectivists. Maybe its my argumentation against assuming the role of the collective? Not sure. But either way, there is nothing wrong in being in a collective, just assuming you can speak for it

>>136477399
I am in favor of what Trump has been doing as President for the most part. He's definitely done way more than any other President has in the past couple of decades. I support his non-interventionalism, emphasis on rebooting the economy by creating jobs, shaking up the stagnation in congress, telling the EU/Merkel to go fuck themselves, anti-globalism, etc. Although I am worried that he'll be influenced by (((them))) in the long run and end up getting us involved in more proxy wars with Russia -a country we should be fighting side-by-side with against radical islam if anything.

As for Bernie I would never consider voting for him ever again when the Democratic Primaries come around again. The way he carried out his campaign was pisspoor and he proved himself to be a money-grubbing hack after bending the knee to Shillary. He also took jabs at working class white ppl by saying that they are incapable of experiencing poverty. The worst was when he let those BLM retards take the mic away from him at that rally and he just stood there with his tail between his legs like the cowardly cuck that he is. He's weak and deserves to have lost. America needed a strong leader and Trump proved himself.

>>136486680
Sounds good to me. Basically authoritarian control for the assorted idiots of the world and libertarian freedom for intelligent productive people.

I once called myself a citizen of the world.

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>>136486879
>I don't think
>That flag

Checks out.

I just hate niggers and spics and want to get away from them. I also don't like Jews because they keep moving the niggers and spics to live near me. Ive always had those beliefs except I didn't know about the Jew part until about 6 years ago.

>>136485567

I don't know if he's roleplaying but he says that he was in a crash...who knows...Cody's nuts, he's been acting very strange since the World Piece cancellation.

6 years ago, i posted a positive message about EA and Bioware on facebook because of gay rights stances.

Im sorry, i was young, i didnt know any better. I didnt realize what was going to come of it.

>>136486303
>So when whites want this white nation, one must ask the nation what it wants
Nation comes from nationem which means "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe". So yes, I'm all for asking the nation in the most literal sense. But if my neighbors start acting against my interests and invite elements my group doesn't want, we should have the freedom to draw a line and seperate ourselves, diplomaticly or by the sword.

>>136474070
Any feminist that gets fucked by Conservative Chad enough times.

>>136474707
This. I also think there is credence to the saying "If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain"

Though my shift happened sooner there were certain parts of leftism that always agitated me especially 3rd wave feminism, before SJW was even a thing.

>>136474228
Cody Cigar took over his mind

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>>136487509

>by the sword
k
i can't convice an authoritarian about freedom, they have already made up their mind. I can only convince those who still hold it as an ideal

My suggestion would be syndicalism, seperation or unification by ideas rather then forcing every x generalized group to follow your lead. Why can't the whites who want an ethostate do their thing, and those who want multiculturalism do theirs? Or is it about empty spots of land? Resources too? You can't have it all, thats why we choose few ideals to follow. As they contradic eachother

>>136485277
that poor glock

Did Hyde really get into a wreck? or is he jewing us into buying shitty t-shirts to support his reckless behavior?

>>136486789
Again, I like freedom as an ideal but it is used as a weapon to enforce totalitarianism. Your suggestions are similar to my statements here>>136483463
With the way you think there is no option for survival and no answers to real issues. You cant critique the right but at the end of the day you are politically irrelevant.

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>>136486680
Good points.First time I met an intelligent commie.

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>>136488084

Don't know...he is straight up NUTS lately! UNHINGED!

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>>136475779
>inate characteristics like gender/race
>inate characteristics
are you implying that gender and race are social constructs and not important?

>>136474070
As soon as I started paying attention to politics I knew the left was full of every entitled POS I've met in my life. All I had to do was look at the people that support them to know it wasn't for me.

>>136478066
what's wrong with being racist?

>>136488235
>With the way you think there is no option for survival and no answers to real issues.
>You cant critique the right but at the end of the day you are politically irrelevant.
don't confuse the two
My suggestion is>>136488053


seems to me like you would rather have the circle continue, while you must understand that it will all just boil down to the left taking over again once the right has losts its way?

Or don't you care because by then you will be dead? If its all about living a good life, then an individualist approach is more suitable. IF you think agression will somehow kill ideas and that the hegalian dialectic will somehow end with the right taking power you must be insane. Ideas don't die. If you are however into the whole "survival of my group" , i can assure you a balanced approach like syndicalism is better then a self destruction which we already have seen happen in the 1940's when these ideologies already fought.
Talk about having no anwsers to real issues eh, simple anwsers dosn't mean they will last

>>136474070
I went from heathy happy normal right to extreme far right.

>>136474228
classic bomb rescue

>>136488053
>Why can't the whites who want an ethostate do their thing, and those who want multiculturalism do theirs?
That is exactly what I said here>>136485957
If you are suggesting that theses two groups live under one nation, then you are naive beyond belief. They want two different things that will clash eventually that is why many whites want separation from not only other races but cucked whites

>>136488886

God dammit Smocaine...

>>136487011
Thanks, can I quote your post parenthesis and all?

>>136474228
Who's Sam? You mean Cody?

>>136474070
Cody Cigar thread? I'm down.

>>136478066
>I only employ the most qualified in my company!
>Isn't all white people.

>>136488813
nothing is wrong with being anything, if you don't care about being right or wrong.
But if you care about judgment of peoples, i suggest choosing a system with less false-positives (accepting white trash) and false-negatives (accepting smart x peoples)

racism is just a tool we equired long ago, its just used by the less educated / less individualistc because its an easy solution made by others like religion and ideologies

never was an sjw but when I was younger I assumed communism would work. Then one day I guess I just flipped a switch and became whatever the fuck I am today

Yes but it way few years back, i remember getting angry when some talked bad about muslims, but i never qustioned myself why i got angry

Yes, 1998 moved from FL to NY. Totally wasn't racist, ACLU member. After 15+ years in NY I see things in a totally different light. I'm still not a racist per se but I think I see things much clearer now. Positive stereotypes are just as harmful, if not more harmful as negative stereotypes.

>>136488487

its a meme, dont read too much into it.
But if you want to know, race is a categorization, and so is gender. Being a pragmatist, its as meaningfull as it is usefull.

>>136476229
They aren't. Now you can quit being retarded

>>136474185
This.

>>136488053
>Why can't the whites who want an ethostate do their thing, and those who want multiculturalism do theirs?
Because it's essentially a zero sum game. If some want to piss in the water well and others want to drink from it, there won't be a solution that will satisfy both, except for those who like to drink piss.

all this talk of cigars is making me want to buy things

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>>136476229
>but i try to spend time with niggers and mudslimes to see if they're capable of human emotions

>>136488900

yes, and i support that if its done by the communities, (collectivis by the way of syndicalism / direct democracy) Its just the same as with the blacks and malcom x. Just go ahead.

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>>136489101
>racism is just a tool we equired long ago, its just used by the less educated / less individualistc because its an easy solution made by others like religion and ideologies
Racism is the natural order of things, equality is a social construct.

>i suggest choosing a system with less false-positives (accepting white trash) and false-negatives (accepting smart x peoples)
typical liberal bullshit, "let's accept more smart blacks, some more syrian rocket scientist refugees please!"

>>136488886
Suicide bomb rescue

>>136489096

>doesn't know about asians

wew

>>136474070
Nope I came out of that vagina goose-stepping and sieg heiling like a pro. Made the other babies cry.

>>136489101
>>136489646
For reference I live in London and have been around majority non-white areas my whole life, if you think there is no inferior and no superior races you must not have spent enough time around non-whites.

>>136489690
they have no ingenuity

good maintainers just not creators.

>>136476229
>i'm slowly becoming leftist
In what way?

>>136489406

guess compromise or war it is then, like i said yyou can't have it all

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>>136474070
>SJW
No, but I was a total Bennite socialist. Couldn't stand SJeWs because they "divided the working class".

NOW I AM A BLOODTHIRSTY FASCIST MONSTER, SMOKE METH, HAIL EVOLA

>>136489264
>but i never qustioned myself why i got angry

The condidioning is strong. Scary. We won't win this war unless we form Street right wing militia or however Samuel proposed.

We keep talking sense to them, and they are moving in on our last liberties. And we keep talking, hoping the leftoid degenerates will get to their senses. Because going violent on them would be "stooping to their level" Hahahhahahahaha, epic logic.

>>136488832
I will lay it out simply

1. WHAT DO NAZIS WANT
>separation from leftists and non whites, their own state
2. HOW IS THIS ACHIEVED?
>infiltrating current institutions and achieving political power, enough to change laws
3. WHAT IS THE END RESULT
>whites get what they want, a place that is safe, and non whites and leftists get their space to destroy
BY NO MEANS DO I THINK "HUR DUR WE GOT DA RIGHT WING MAN IN DA WHITE HOUSE PROBLEM DUN WE CAN SUBJUGATE EVERYONE TO OUR LAWS NOW" That is what you are implying we want. Most are like this>>136487363

>>136476266
What you forget to say is that NatSoc knows that the patriarchy is a real thing and we need it. Also "degeneracy" and "triggering" aren't in the same category.

The ultimate goal of feminists is communism.

and
>bootlicker
0/10

>basing your identity on stupid labels made by people who spend too much time on the internet

no thanks

>>136489646

tribalism sure, saying racism is, is like saying germanism or englandism, no. We are tribes, now more so by ideas then by physical appearence

as for the rest
>anecdotal evidence
>misunderstanding the argument

if racism is about being able to judge people better then it fails on those two parts like most statistical analasysis or generalizations sorry.
Complex systems are better, but might be too hard to make for most people

>>136488852
Actually I take it back. My views are kind of complicated. I don't like Islam and I am naturally racist, but I think the white world is getting what it deserves for bombing the Middle-East in pursuit of their clay. Saddam Hussein was loved by Islamic Muslims and Muslim Christians alike, he kept the peace between them, and he made his country work. Gaddafi was a bit of a loon, but he was basically the same way. He ket regional control, and apparently, as it turns, he was actually helping Europe from becoming black because he kept Libya's borders so strong. Assad is the same way. Syrian people love him and want him, no one is on the "Moderate Rebel Muslims" side (aka ISIS), and the US is there trying to take him down so that we can install a corrupt regime willing to give us their things.

Europe is gone now, which was essentially a refuge for the white race once America gets taken over by the spics. Is the war in the Middle-East worth losing Europe over? No. Whites are basically done for. When America would have become brown we would have all migrated back to European cities where we could be happy again. It's all over now.

>>136474070
Apparently Baked Alaska went from buzzfeed shill to Based Anon after hearing Justin Bieber.

>>136474070
No, but I've seen more people than you'd think do the opposite. I knew someone who was full on unironic 1488, but turned into a complete "Fuck Trump and white cis men" nu-male within a year.

>>136489815

>unscientific claims

nazism is 10% sicnece and 90% whatever iwant it to be, like most ideologies

>>136477840
>California is insane with aids acceptance
What the fuck?
>and even has "poz bars" where aids gays meet up
I don't believe you.
>https://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/06/a-night-out-with-the-h-i-v-positive/
I-I refuse to believe you...

>>136474070
I still am an SJW
always have been
Stopping
Jews
Worldwide

>>136489626
But that is what the ethnostate advocates want, where is the contradiction. It's heresy and racist to consider an exclusively white community for ordinary white people that isn't a gated community for rich guys.

>>136477840
Will you please kill yourself?

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>>136488941
>Cody

Cody "The Unhinged" Cigar.

>>136490045

>speaks for the whole 'community'

cool i explained this flaw in thinking already

>>136476229
that's funny, because enough time with niggers and mudslimes is what made me go from left-wing commie to a white nationalist

>>136490148
>no. We are tribes, now more so by ideas then by physical appearence
spend some time with non-whites and I think you'll find yourself not welcome because of your physical appearance. Your gay college friend doesn't count, go hang out in a bad non-white neighbourhood and then go hang out in an all-white area.

>>136490225
They sound retarded.

>>136489101
Ayn, this is horseshit. We look at averages, trends and statistics. Looking at individuals when discussing politics is borderline retarded. Go back to reading Atlas Fucked and fuck off from muh board.

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>>136490267
Will you fucking stop with plebbit spacing, you self absorbed self fellatioing narcisstic reddit bullshit spewing cunt?

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i went from not caring about politics to having serious arguments with anonymous people on the internet.

>>136490267
>like most ideologies
>look at me, I'm smarter than all sides because i'm not on any, nobody can disagree with me now.

used to be a communist, eventually i strayed farther right. never liked jews tho.

>>136474070
I'm not white so I didn't care about how much whites are being cucked, but now i realize that whites are the only people i want to live around.

>>136474070
Still liberal. Just closer to the center now.

>>136490108

why do collectivistss always think they can speak for the whole community?

maybe you will like this meme better>>136475779

>>136489862
There is no compromise with leftists. This is what other anons and I have been trying to nail into your head. Maybe you should go to reddit and TELL THEM they cant have it all

>>136476229
>but i try to spend time with niggers and mudslimes to see if they're capable of human emotions

That'll turn you extreme right.

>>136476229
>a finn having social interaction

>>136490704
>why do collectivistss always think they can speak for the whole community?
Because I know what NatSoc is.
>why do you assume that communists want to get rid of private property?
Because I know what communism is.

Again, you are retarded.

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>>136474070
Yes. Very much so.

I came to /pol/ to laugh at racists and racist memes, ended up a white nationalist.

>>136490332

sure, but there is no reason to cry about it. You have seen plenty of times how a few bad apples destroy and whole movment, this can be applied here too. There are too many who don't want what you want. Too many who want agression, and other ways to 'solve' the probelm. Its just a shame their emotions will just lead them to another circlejerk of ideologies

ideas aren't either something you can control for, which is the biggest mistake the nazis make (as if they learned nothing from the failures of the SJW) Even in their ethno-states, their kids might adopt a whole diffrent view, and the white race will only be secured for another generation.
Which is always the case with any ideology

>>136474070
The far-right are SJWs.

>>136474070
I never agreed with the full retard shit that separates an sjw from a run of the mill Democrat, but I considered myself a leftist. The two started to coalesce around the year 2010, I got sick of the whole "fucking white male" shit and the "xe and xir" shit (yeah that actually existed in extremely progressive circles hack then) so I started seeking out dissenting views.

Sort of became a cuckservative faggot for a year or so in response but grew out of it. Found this place in 2013 or so and have been here ever since

>>136490399

i did, and i have, but unlike you i don't trust in anecdotal evidence, so i prefer to judge people by harsher standards then giving them a free pass simple because of their skin color or their afiliation to my ancestors.

>>136490447

have
you taken
your pills
hans?

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>>136490770
That's the big thing. I got into an argument the other day with some faggot on latestagecapitalism or some other shithole subreddit and I really tried my best to not call him a faggot because mods are faggots. Anyway pic related is what trying to reason with a liberal gets you

>>136490528

>like most
implies i exclude some from the rule
do you ever read the whole text?

I was as a teenager in the mid 2000's. Then I moved to a culturally diverse city and saw the dark side of multiculturalism. I actually never had peers who shared the same sentiments, it was just from years of abuse from black culture in Savannah GA.

>>136491281
go ahead and tell us your ideology then if they're all stupid but yours.

>>136476494
This is it.
The pain of the redpill.

>>136490770
well i know how you feel, like most authoritarians. Emotions do that to people
I just hope this is an example tho those who see this movment as somehow 'peacefull' >>136490332
there are plenty of bad apples like you on here

>>136491021
>their kids might adopt a whole different view
Now that is an assumption. For the sake of the argument lets say they do, they have the option of joining their leftist brothers in the ruins of America or they will be out breed. What you fail to understand is that many branches of the left, like feminism, are suicidal. These women wont have kids and will instead want a career life. In a case like this she probably wont have any kids and here genetic line ends their while fascists encourage large families.

>>136490955

>why do collectivistss always think they can speak for the whole community?
Because I know what NatSoc is.

worse logic i have seen so far, the question was
>who are you to speak for your whole community (for other people)
>i know what natsoc is, therfor i know WHO IS natsoc, and how many agree with me

next stage of being delusional

>>136491438

already have, i suggest you read before you type

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I've never been a real Leftist, but I did go from Minarchist to National Socialist

>>136491677
>>who are you to speak for your whole community (for other people)
I am God. I speak for everyone, as they are my subjects. Any further questions, kike?

>>136491659

talk about assumptions
>i say 'might'
you say 'many' branches of the left, like feminism, are suicidal.

but atleast we can agree on the point of being able to move from one community to another if one shouldn't agree with ones parents

>>136491773
I'm not reading all of your 30+ posts in this thread to find your response to somebody else so i'm sure you can tell me again without being too embarrassed

>>136474228
>>136474228
Sam's suffering from depression atm he's trying to tough it out tho...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES3swYjaxWI

>>136491884

im not suprised a bootlicker would claim hes god ;^)

>sjw to far right

so basically your iq is 110 mayyyybe and you do whatever your fagbook friends do because you are a social and intellectual coward

also sjw is a new term so op is a newfag 12 year old ewwww

I have to ask one question tho.

My parents were typical pro-west liberals, in fact, everyone I know in my family is like that. Nothing extreme, but you know, type of left that these musicians and actors spew when in front of the mic.

I can't talk about politics with them anymore. It didn't start with Trump, even when I recall my most dream-state delusional lefty years, I was always, always skeptical.

And my father is a kind of reactionary leftist, don't know if that's even possible but I don't know how to describe it. Anyway - I got away from that way of thinking and can't talk about it with them anymore.

/pol was the final coffin, I started to lurk here around the US elections, and it got worse week by week. Those glasses from They Live are not glasses, they're permanent. Can't take them off. And it's not exactly pleasant, kinda ruins the simple things from time to time...

How do you raise your kids? What if they deflect from your "right wing" teachings? This is not unheard of...

>>136491999

well i suggest you gtfo then ;^)


ɯsilɐɔipuʎs sʇi

>>136491486
There is no compromise possible with a group of people that won't allow a "peaceful" solution, in this case leftists. Just try the argument of whites having an ethnostate (without conquest or deportation) on your typical liberal or black person and you'll see them foaming.

>Edgy kid that was considered a nazi for doing roman salute and convince friends to do it to and polítical beliefs
>Went to uni first year almost became a sjw warrior because wanted friends
>Felt i didn't fit in no matter how "friendly" they were
>Changed uni and went back to my old self bit by bit thanks to 4chan

I lost a lot if shit, i loved a girl that left me due to my degenarate behavior, turned back on my real friends, my dads almost lost hope in me, and lost muscle because stoped working out, now im back on track and recovering all since in young and want to do many shit

>>136475649
I think everyone goes through that edgy punk fight the le machine phase, the only difference is if you can mature past it

>>136475761
are you me

>>136490383
Oh yeah I forgot I have to be constrained to your rules of debate. My observations of anons on here and other alt right sites mean nothing but you assumptions and strawmans are completely correct.
>>136475779
Here you apparently know alot about the community im apart of yet I dont?

>>136474070

Yeah me, well kind of anyway. I was left leaning centrist for a lot of years, without even really realizing it, but not an SJW. At the worst point, I even supported the whole occupy wallstreet movement, but that's where it stopped.

>>136492173
>ɯsilɐɔipuʎs sʇi
well I suggest you go back to r*ddit then :^)

>>136492061
lol fagget

>>136491196
>33 posts by this id
Fucking hell, reddit leaf cunt, you fuckwad come here straight from your shithole, start spewing your absolutely non sensical shit, which delivers literally nothing but cuck narcissistic vibes. You say nothing, present no point and go on and on and on about how you love fuck yourself in the ass by le smart logically driven radically centrist twat. You call everyone around you delusional, emotionally driven collectivist children. Where does your unwarranted self importance come from, fucktard? Is this what they teach you in your marxist colleges - spew le radcen marxist rhetoric to stroke your ego? You unironically keep plebbit spacing, because you're an unemployed reddit cunt and tell others to take the pills?
Fuck off to plebbit and kill yourself.

>>136492072
>because you are a social and intellectual coward
Depending on where you live, coming out as far-right means complete social death.

I mean heck, I pissed off people in University by coming out as a Conservative and Christian. No reason to reveal you're behind enemy lines if all it means is you'll get shot and killed.

>>136474070
Yea, I was a sjw socialist borderline commie back in high school, about a decade ago. It was actually MSNBC, a channel I watched daily, that turned me off that shit.
>There was a young, white college student on a daytime segment talking about starting a whites only scholarship program. Despite being a liberal snowflake, I had to agree so th his reasoning. There were many programs for orher races so why shouldn't they have one as well? The black host brought up the usual talking points of slavery, white privilege anyhow racism still existed. As a minority myself I called bullshit on that. That was my first step down the rabbit hole.
Barry Goldwater and his version of conservatism still shape my views.

Kinda, I was pretty far left when I was young but when you're young your political opinions mean shit because you know nothing yet.

>>136492291

indeed, but thats the whole point of the typical [insert ideology] person, just look at this site, there are plenty of examples here too.
The peace is threatend as much from their side as it is from yours. I would suggest doing what you said a few posts earlier (i think it was you?), (going by the institutions) just like the left did earlier too, without the need for war

/pol/ made me less right actually

>>136474070
yeah I was always liberal liked freedom and general happiness for everyone and then I woke up and realized liberalism is a miserable ideology of failure and have been going further and further right since then

>>136492696

Under sword, batos.

>>136474070
I was once a Democratic Socialist Bernie supporter, but was never an "SJW" in the sense that I was pro-feminism, pro-political correctness, etc. I was anti-feminist, anti-political correctness, and a race realist even when I was a socialist.

>>136474228
He's....kinda blaming us for his humor getting himself into a bad situation. It's not his fault, or our fault, it's the liberal's lack of humor and the Jews controlling them to be that way.

>>136474070
I was center right until I moved to the US. then I thought I should get to know the local issues, so I started watching CNN a famous channel. Read new york time. Soon later I was an 0bama supporter and I hated the tea party. But there was so much general crap in cable news, so I stopped watching it completely. Then I got new neighbors: third world refugees, 3 families living in one house. they were very hostile to me, also they have a riot on their patio every evening, they cook rotten fish 10 times a day, their place is the biggest eyesore in the street, with piles of garbage and junk cars. When I tried to talk to them about any of these issues, they were aggressively dismissive and rude. Then I started researching what was going on. What I found was the truth about mass third world immigration, white genocide, creeping marxism... Then I became far right.

>>136492361

i never claimed to speak for a whole community? i haven't been voted their representative or anything
My strawmens about the right are as valid as any strawmens of the left are on here.
example; i observed this, therfor some people in that community are x
(il let you choose how valid you think it is)

>>136492515
Look at it like this, he is a challenge for anons here to overcome and make us stronger. When he goes back to try and give other leftists tips about arguing with us half of them will ignore it and shout racist at him for even entertaining our idea while the other will look at his posts as interrupting their echo chamber. This is why pol is good, we are absorbing him.

>>136474070
I was a Lolbertarian. Now I am even further right.

>>136492405

nah il rather stay in your safespace

like with this fellow>>136492515

>>136476494
Holy hell, are you me?

>>136482022
I never understood why people ever believed "diversity was a strength", I just thought it was something politicians of diverse societies said so that it made people more willing to work together. Its pretty obvious living in Canada that diversity is a weakness because of Quebec.

The only thing I ever believed was that race didn't matter and that culture was the only thing that mattered, so letting in immigrants was fine so long as they adapted to the culture as quickly as possible.

Now I know race matters.

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>>136474070
I was a hardcore Atheist in my teens, which is embarrassing considering my flag. Now I read Guenon and has almost become a religionfag desu.

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>>136492908

>still thinking there are only two sides

>>136493048
>he thinks /pol/ is a safespace
You must not have been here very long, because /pol/ is almost entirely people disagreeing with each other.

>>136474070
naturally, the progression from mindless zombie social justice loving bleeding heart fool to informed critical thinker transforms you in such a profound way. hell, it can make an atheist/agnostic into a firm believer of jesus christ.

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>>136493173
>I ever believed was that race didn't matter and that culture was the only thing that mattered
Until few months ago I kind of believed that too. Its alt light.

>>136492902
yes but you made observations, its the same thing I did. I never claimed to be the leader but you made an assertion that I, as a nazi or alt righter, wanted the cycle to continue >>136488832
This is incorrect. Now you are telling me that you perception of my views are more correct than what I am telling you.
In reality though, this is just so you don't have to actually discuss my argument for separation and instead focus on semantics

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>>136474070
I went from naive liberal to far right in about 2 or 3 years, including the 2016 election

>>136493288

oh, i must have misunderstood then, i was under the impression so many individuals could speak for the whole community that you all must have agreed on everything

>>136493610
You must have.

>>136493268
i hear you, i'm not convinced that the dawkins/hitchens etc. brand of atheism is worth discarding or anything though, especially when it comes to islam, also wonder if /pol/ would have swelled to the size it did last year or if the whole anti-sjw thing would have becomes so big without those guys back in the 06-2010 range, maybe i'm just projecting though

>>136474070
I thought so but they went full retard and I stayed a believer in civil liberties before civil liberties was a euphemism for pinko commie fag...more traditional free speech, no censorship, right to a gun...due process you know the good shit

>>136493540

not at all i actually gave options when i asked if you wanted it to continue. And if you actually followed anything i said, you would have understood that i would support any atempt at seperation which comes from the community itself, and not some self proclaimed leader (via syndicalism /direct democracy)

>>136474070
Yeah, but then I turned 12 and went full 1488.

>>136493284
wow you just blew my mind dude. Like, maybe Lincoln freed the slaves but we are still all slaves bro.

>>136493720
my bad, il try to ignore the authoritarians who claim to speak for their whole communities instead of them just spouting their opinions, which probably means most people

>>136474070
This thread exposed me to cody cigar. I laughed. Triple threat baby boy

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>>136493933

how american

It was an awakening for me. Was SJW fag till 2016 then I saw the light.

I used to love doing all the gay shit the SJW do now. Going to starbuucks talking about bullshit, going to get meetups at peoples houses, cooking dinner together. Just a bunch of stupid shit.

Now all I care about is Pussy, Guns, Independence, Fishing, Hiking, Pussy and once in awhile go watch some cage matches. Im an agnostic but now go out my way to protect Christians. I just recently donated to a Catholic church near me because they needed some stop lights or some shit like that.

I am much happier when I simplified my life. I dont care about the materials things that the far left always want. Fuck you faggets. Ill never go back.

>>136493821
>bro republicans are stupid, they believe the earth is like only 3,000 years old
Actually im a Republican and I.......
>OH SO YOU SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY?!?!?
these have been all your posts this entire thread

>>136492902
>my strawman is valid
Pseudo philosopher detected.

>>136494158
>libertarian.jpg

>>136474070
Yup. Broke the programming once I got to college, where it was too put on to be believable anymore like they were desperate.

>>136494292
>now all i care about is pussy
>pussy
>watch cage matches
>donated to Catholic church
FUCKING DEGENERATE! FUCK YOU

>>136475649
Eh but hell they are a good band. Still listen to them, even if i went full natsoc post djt election. So more for sound over meaning

>>136474070
I was an SJW sort of. I was a huge Alex Jones Zeitgiest fans. HATED Corporations, thought the Natives were the good guys since they opposed the Rothschild funded settlers. So half SJW half Right-wing i guess.

>>136474070
kinda.
>socialist-esque shill for M5S
>find /pol/
>???
>nazi

>>136494785
I also thought that that Sihkish Comedian was "standing up to the NWO" because he called Bush an idiot since Bush was part of the NWO

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Was a liberal edgelord Furfag in my late teens.
On 4chan since 2006 but never went to /news/ or /pol/ untill 2014ish.
T.still a Furfag

>>136494811
>socialist
>find pol
>socialist
What?

Used to be proto sjw at 14, then found anus.com

full blown commie liberal scum but this was before there were 300 genders. I'm happy I got out at the right time.

>>136482022
I tried explaining this to my sjw gf while I was still a leftist. I knew enough about blacks to not live near them and knew to get her to look for an apartment packed with East Asian types. Statistically, they commit crime at a quarter of the rate Caucasians do, so what's not to love. Not a single prep from her.

You'll see most people's true beliefs when it comes down to their personal safety

>>136495077
socialist in Europe means liberal

>>136494315

no
the claim was
>nazis don't beliee that, they believe this version spesifically
what about those other ones in this thread?
>i speak for the entire community in my potential ethno state

your shitty example is just about exceptions
nice strawmen tho, im sure someone here will be stupid enough to believe it

>>136490280
I also live in the bay area and can confirm that anon is telling the truth. This place is disgusting.

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>>136474070
Yes. I voted for bill Clinton and Obama twice (PUKE). I even lived in Los Angeles for a while. I first started noticing dissonance between my beliefs and opinions and a lot of my old friends/ex husband in 2014. I even contributed $10 to HRC's campaign (later contributed $100 to DJT). Honestly When Le Don first started running I knew from the beginning he would win. I had this sense that a bubble had popped and FINALLY there was someone publically saying what many think. Things quickly spiraled from there. Lost my SJW bff, gor divorced from my SJW ex husband, got a better job, got more conservative, found pol, discovered the JQ and so much more. Disparate things from the past started to make sense and come together. It's nice to have found other people committed to trying to understand a bigger truth.

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I was never EVER an SJW or even a liberal, I got into the political world when these "poor" minorities kept attacking and demanding things. I was always sick of it. Even when I was in my toddler years I still had views that would be considered "too extreme" without anyone influencing me.

I don't even consider myself alt right, far right or whatever right, I'm just right.

>>136490986
Same. More or less. I always were an imigration-critic and it was so frowned upon i couldn't be true to my own views and opinions here in Sweden so i was suppressing them. I checked up on /pol after hearing about how cancerous it was. While i still find it cancerous i also find it honest. To a degree i feel better with expressing myself here since there's no stuck up leftist assholes that can tell me what i can and can't say.

>>136495445
Most socialists are conservative though in the past. Like all the left-wing heros of Canada like Tommy Douglas and Macenzie King turned out to be pro-eugenics and white nationalists.

>>136493880
You and every one else playing soldier. As an adult though...

>>136495702
You make me puke

>>136495665
you're disgusting like all the people on pol except me

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>>136495702
OH! And 9/11 was truly when I started not trusting anything. Also, Bill Clinton is a rapist. Justice for Seth Rich. Hillary for Prison. Shadilay faggots.

>>136492061
Dammit Sam
Get your mojo back.
Be cunning.

>>136474070
Yep. Ex-socialist here. I still kind of like left-wing economic ideas, but I'm very socially conservative and have strict views on race.

There's a reason the baby boomer hippies of the 60s became conservatives. Eventually you realise far-left politics (such as communism or socialism) are ridiculously idealistic, and in my case, boring and unappealing. I asked myself, what is there to gain from a world where we're all the same? Where people are rewarded the same for doing objectively less? Sure, we'd all be equal, but is that necessarily a good thing? All throughout human history we've competed with one another, the strong have dominated and displaced the weak, certain groups of people (races) have proven themselves to be better at certain things than other groups. A simple, unbiased look at history will show this to be true. And this is one the main things which woke me up. Rather than being the result of "systematic oppression" or "institutional discrimination", what if some people are just better at certain things than others? Difference is fundamental parts of nature, equality is not a natural concept. We should recognise this, instead of trying to convince ourselves otherwise.

>>136474070
From one extreme to the othet.
Like the 0 integrity nu males that you are.

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>>136474070
What brand of vest is that?

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>>136474707
In America most females are bisexual amerishart roasties who live for the taste of a big black smegma encrusted fly covered nigger cock. They are so heavy into being liberal scum that no indoctrination is even necessary, they want to be 57 genders by the time they are age 5. It is ingrained in their genetics, and only a concentration camp can fix them. They should just take Americans and like literally pave them all into a giant road with a steamroller. lol

The only thing they'd be good for is pavement, because they are all fat lard ass shart-in-walmarts.

>>136495626
Again
you dont attempt to actually argue against anything I or other anons assert and half of the time repeat our talking points back to us
>>136489626
>>136490332
Its still funny though how true this is about you
>create strawman
>assert that your strawman is true
>anybody who disagrees is speaking for a "community"
>when someone asks about your position you are le enlightened centrist or just avoid the question with more strawmen
And repeat

>>136496061
LIFE IS ADAPT OR FADE AWAY
ARE YOU THE HUNTER OR THE PREY?

>>136493933
Right. Lincoln decided which type of slavery we would chained too. He was sneaky and smart.

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>>136497103

>In the end, i was the sneaky one

>>136490312
>I still am an SJW
>always have been
>Stopping
>Jews
>Worldwide

sir you are a genius