A Question For Agnostics

>>136454047
How is a fairy collecting teeth when you sleep and leave money more ridiculous than some dude living in the skies that made everything?

>>136454047
>Would you feel confident making the following assertion: "The tooth fairy does not exist"
No. I cannot say with absolute certainty that the tooth fairy in whatever form does not exist. The chance of it actually existing is so laughably low that I will in my normal life act as thought I knew it does in fact not exist, but if asked directly I would never state to know that it does not exist.
>>136454147
That's not an argument.

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>>136454047
>>136454147

>>136454147
My point was that the christian god is far more ridiculous than the tooth fairy

Because the tooth fairy is not an omniscient being.

It's a pathetic comparison because, for one, the tooth fairy isn't an attempt to answer the genuinely baffling question of where everything came from and why (not 'how' before you le Big Bang me).

Also, it's just a lame as fuck comparison. I can tell you stink and have a tiny penis.

>>136454489
This is where you will need to present evidence of your "omniscient being"

>>136454544
Can you give me evidence that the universe is not holographic?

>>136454543
It's a valid comparison and that is evidenced by the fact that it has caused your ass to become visibly blasted. If agnostics feel compelled to sit on the fence about the most retarded fabrication in the history of fiction (ie your god), they should extend that same open-mindedness to far less ridiculous creations, like the tooth fairy.

But most of them don't. They should ask themselves why that is.

>>136454645
I have not made that claim, so I need not provide evidence. You made a claim about an omniscient being, and then dodged the request for evidence. You should reflect on why reasonable questions cause you to run away.

>>136454764
Got any proof on most agnostics claiming to know the tooth fairy isn't real?

>>136454884
My point is that you can't and it may actually be the case. Atheists are aggressive because they feel that their logic and intelligence is always being attacked. I didn't dodge anything because it's something not possible to prove. Tell me, if you can't prove the universe isn't holographic then why do you not just admit that we are living in a simulation?

>>136454976
Yes. I surveyed 100 people and the top four answers are on the board.

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>>136455085
This is just a retard salad, so I will leave my response at that.

>>136454147
>some dude living in the skies that made everything?
The problem here is that your definition of God is fucking ridiculous and pretty much nobody actually believes in that.

Your post is a great example of either strawman or prejudice.

I'm not even a Christian nor follow any of the other Abrahamic or Pagan LARP shit but I least I made a little effort to understand what they actually believe in before judging them.

>>136455085
>My point is that you can't and it may actually be the case.
How do you know that it may be the case without any evidence pointing to it?
>Tell me, if you can't prove the universe isn't holographic then why do you not just admit that we are living in a simulation?
What? Just because we cannot disprove something right now doesn't mean it's true. Whether we are living in a holographic universe, a simulation or just have very fucked up laws of nature we'll probably be able to deduct in some point in the future. I really don't see where your argument lies.
>>136455221
Either you're just making shit up then or MY assumption about most agnostics being slightly more intelligent than your regular religious person and more reflected than your regular atheist are wrong.

>>136455386
>The problem here is that your definition of God is fucking ridiculous and pretty much nobody actually believes in that.

Could you give us the correct definition of the christian god?

>>136454047
>"The christian god does not exist"

i consider myself an agnostic atheist and am pretty sure the abrahamic god does not exist because of all the blatant bullshit in christianity, judaism and islam but i am not sure if there was some divine power which kick started the big bang. what came before the big bang is still a hole in our knowledge and people tent to fill those holes with a "god"

If you think everyone is fighting over whether God is the programmer or the guy playing SIM 10,000 your having the wrong argument.


Take the flood narrative, Peterson said the morale of the story is if you get your ass kicked by a flood its your fault you weren't ready enough.

Not having a boat, sounds like your fault.

Not having a big enough boat, sounds like your fault.

Not having an inter-galactic spaceship with DNA from every animal on the planet, sounds like your fault.

>>136455295
>I can't contemplate what you're talking about

>>136455783
>some divine power

We are living in a world in which there have millions, if not billions of claims made of supernatural or divine phenomena. And the sum total of evidence for these claims stretching back 1000s of years?

*zero*

Given this fact, why would you entertain the possibility of "some divine power"?

>>136454147
Christians don't believe in Zeus.

>>136455868
>I will not waste time on utter dogshit.

FTFY

>>136455457
>1.
Because of the results of quantum double slit delayed eraser experiments.
>2.
I'm not claiming that God exists. I'm claiming that he could exist. Just like I'm not claiming the universe is a simulation. I'm claiming that it could be. There is evidence enough for both and these two seemingly different topics, religion and simulation, may actually be connected.

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>>136454047
The tooth fairy might exist but is it like anything our parents told us no. It could have come about any number of ways and been spread through folk lore. The same way that there was a flood in ancient times lots and lots of physical evidence to support this. Still like all things written in books lots of things are left out and or unknown about what really happened. We are just now starting to understand just a little about the world we live in. So I'm sure I speak for the majority of people here who see atheists as what they truly are angry stupid little children. Who are mad because mama an dada hurt your splurgy butt figuratively and literally.

>>136456155
>I'm claiming that he could exist

1.Which god could exist? Thousands of them have been fabricated. Which one do you think might not be bullshit?

>he

2. How do you know this particular god has a cock?

>The christian god does not exist
Agreed. But why christian? It's the jew god. Trying to make it less jewish is just a naked attempt for more credibility on your part

>>136456155
Alright then let's get back to your original post.
>Because the tooth fairy is not an omniscient being.
How does that make the tooth fairy less likely to exist than god (definition of god being more or less the jewish god).

>>136456053
Results of quantum double slit delayed eraser experiments heavily imply that our reality is all information and not material based. When we try to observe what particles do on a quantum level they behave like light which is not possible in a material reality. This outcome suggests that our universe is in fact holographic and that this may all be a simulation. Now tell me. Given this information do you believe that it is true or false. Does your complete ignorance about our universe and God tempt you to change your mind at all? Or are you just like every other smug imbecile atheist who feigns wisdom because he has no life?

>>136455991
>Given this fact, why would you entertain the possibility of "some divine power"?

only because there is space for one. like i said, a hole in our knowledge. nobody knows what existed before the big bang. i dont claim there is a divine power only that its possible among many other things (like we're living in a simulation etc).

>>136454047
Sciences eplanation of ho w the universe and life came to be is equally ridiculous as religions.

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>>136456313
>The tooth fairy might exist but is it like anything our parents told us no

....Such as your favourite god? kek

>The same way that there was a flood in ancient times lots and lots of physical evidence to support this.

There is precisely z-e-r-o evidence to support this claim. *zero*

>So I'm sure I speak for the majority of people here who see atheists as what they truly are angry stupid little children. Who are mad because mama an dada hurt your splurgy butt figuratively and literally.

And the ass is now officially blasted. topkeks. Nothing like stating a few facts to get christians wetting their pants with rage.

>>136454489
neither is the jewgod
Job 2:2-4
2 Yahweh asked Satan, “Where have you come from?”

LMFAO, omniscient?

>>136455991
How can you even be THIS retarded. As long as something isn't disproven there is always the possibility of it being true.

>>136456371
There may be one god, multiple Gods or no Gods at all. Knowing that would require perception beyond the veil and comprehension beyond human limitation. I could say (s)he or it but I don't care enough. Sorry if I offended you snowflake.

>>136456427
It doesn't matter. The analogy is ridiculous because the "tooth fairy" is nothing like jewish God in any aspect. OP said it to offend people.

>>136456488
>i dont claim there is a divine power only that its possible among many other things

A gay purple goblin with 8.3 centillion invisible penises zapped up the universe by using his 44th penis as a magic wand.

Is this scenario also plausible in your mind, along with the divine power? Try to answer honestly.

>>136456539
Your ignorance is showing.

>>136456810
offense NOT taken
I'm not a faggot or jew

>>136456810
>The analogy is ridiculous because the "tooth fairy" is nothing like jewish God in any aspect

The two are very similar. Both fairy stories told to little children.

>OP said it to offend people.

If you did not subconsciously know that your god was fictitious, and were you not desperate to keep that knowledge suppressed, you would not find the comparison offensive.

>>136454047
I'm agnostic.
The Christian God as an old wise man / commander isn't real. The psychological archetype is however real.
The bible serves as allegory for the human condition and its interaction with reality (God), while presenting us with important great men and their message along the way.

>>136457265
>I'm agnostic.
You're atheist.
>The Christian God isn't real
Bingo!
>The bible is a bubbling cauldron of pigshit with nothing of value to offer
FTFY

>>136456371
Retard focusing on the gendered description of God.

>Durrr how do you know he's a he?

Yeah let's all use gender nuetral pronouns goy

>>136455991
No there is evidence but being a fake intellectual with really zero understanding or real science you denounce them. Science is always changing its systems and beliefs. God is the same way to agnostics as is science. Atheism is for stupid people who think they are smart and just don't want to have to think about things for themselves. Why because thinking is hard and makes me angry.

>>136457530
Derp no. I've not made a claim on the existence of "God".
Information theory clearly states that without any information you cannot make a credible prediction.

>>136457556
>Becoming buttblasted by reasonable questions

christfags. so easy to trigger. so oblivious to why they are so easily triggered.

>>136457689
>Derp no. I've not made a claim on the existence of "God".

Sure you did. Right here:

>The Christian God as an old wise man / commander isn't real.

>>136457842
Christian God and God as a placeholder for creator isn't the same thing.

>>136457265
Thanks Dr. Peterson

>>136456848
>Is this scenario also plausible in your mind, along with the divine power? Try to answer honestly.

possible. not plausible. there may be interdimensional aliens or something if other dimensions exist. i think we know very little about our universe to completely rule the existence a greater being than ourselves out.

>>136457954
How did you come to that conclusion?

>>136454404
No shit, Sherlock. Of course the idea of a Sky Wizard that made everything is retarded.

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Do NOT follow the jewish god. It is probably a trap to send you to their hell while the racialist and tribal YHWH protects his people from us, this would explain how come even tough you have accepted the alleged saviour something seems to favour them and give them power over you so they are economically behind everything.
If you want to believe in God seek your own pagan roots or seek the true God by spiritual means, which can be more accurate.
The christian religion has changed our culture, where pagans swore by their honor and pride cucks of the christian religion seek meekness and humility, making pride and honor sins. Pride and honor can fix our modern world, people would behave based off those two very pagan virtues. Notice how christkikery has replaced these virtueas, meanwhile jews have instructed homosexuals and feminists and other degenerates to declare themselves behind pride and to be proud of their mishaps, so they proudly defend their cause against the meek christians whom cannot defend properly because pride is a sin.

A man of honor, by his pride, will not be a fag.

>>136458148
Huh? The existence of a creator doesn't require the existence of the Christian God. In fact it doesn't require a human definition at all. The Christian God is merely a subset of a greater potential.

>>136458264
>pagans swore by their honor and pride
meaningless concepts without a messiah

>>136458253
This guy >>136454147 failed to comprehend what I had written. That's why I repeated it.

Agnostics don't believe that there is no god.
Agnostics believe that there are many things that can be explained in our mortal plane with evidence and those that can not such as why we exist on Earth and why the universe is infinite.
Because there is evidence to support god's existence and non-existence, there is no point in believing in either side.
Here's the fun part, if agnostics don't believe in either side, then what do they believe in? The answer is nothing.
With this belief in nothing, there is a defining line between atheist and theist who both have a belief, be it a belief of non-existence or existence.

Now that we cleared that up, you can all suck it.

>>136458425
A messiah that will send you to hell for being white, he is here to cuck you and send you to hell, not only do jews want to destroy you in this life, they have planned for you eternal death aswell.
YHWH has always been racialist.

>>136458668
Just about everything you wrote was wrong. Jesus, what a tard.

>>136458941
Care to explain or are you going to suck it?

>>136454047
Because that's a retarded false equivalence, certainly the idea of god in the case of organised religions is retarded; however the architect idea seems just as, if not more probable, than its non-existence

>>136458415
This

>>136454047
The Christian god has evolved into this being created from human's egocentric tendencies. Humans limitations have been imposed onto this being that is supposedly omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent. The god Christians believe in could exist. However, how it has been interpreted and related through the years is flawed due the human tendency to impose how one thinks and acts onto something that cannot be known.

>>136458668
>Because there is evidence to support god's existence and non-existence, there is no point in believing in either side.

what evidence is there to support gods existence?

>>136459146
>Because there is evidence to support god's existence
There is none. Every god ever fabricated comes with zero supporting evidence. This is the reason that the word "faith" exists.
>there is a defining line between atheist and theist who both have a belief, be it a belief of non-existence or existence.
The word "atheist" means without faith. Nothing more. YOU, as an agnostic, are also an atheist, because you do not believe in god(s)

>>136459590
>The word "atheist" means without faith
No, it means without god. Theos means god.

>>136459428

Literally everything. He made the big and he made the space it banged into. With live in a causal natural world, the only way it could exist is with a supernatural beginning.

>>136454047
You can say with confidence the tooth fairy does not exist because it is infinitely easier to test for.
>Leave tooth under pillow
>Oh looks, OP's mommy came in to give me a goodnight BJ before leaving a quarter under my pillow
>tfw no fairy (other than OP of course lmao got em)
>Thanks mommy!

>>136459895
derp

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>>136456642
ok this is officially a bait thread by a summer fag still can't help but take the bait sharks see blood they jump in.

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>>136456810
>the "tooth fairy" is nothing like jewish God in any aspect.
That's true, but how does that make one more likely to exist than the other?

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>>136456903
Your virginity is showing along with being an obvious brainlet

>>136455386
I don't have anything against Christianity itself, other than the fact it's a sandnigger jew religion, but actual Christians are pretty fucking stupid. Back when I still went to church, they'd say shit like how God literally created everything and everything that happens is because he planned it that way.

>>136459895
>the only way it could exist is with a supernatural beginning.

we dont know that. you can assume it if it makes you feel better.

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>>136457703
I know what triggers you though

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>>136459146
Sure he would love to suck it while cutting his off

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>>136454047
>>136454147

>an omnipotent being creating universe
vs.
>nothing in the middle of nothing suddenly appearing out of nowhere and causing Big Bang

leads to

>Christians having to cut down on their consumption lifestyle, are expect to help others, find peace in the question of death
vs.
>Atheists are forced to squeeze out every minute of their life, but mindless consumption and sex only get you so far and enjoying best things like having a family and traveling is possible even under Christian "oppresion" which makes them insecure

leads to

>if Christians are wrong nothing happens after they die
vs.
>If atheists are wrong they end up in a place of eternal torment

>>136460493
>everything that happens is because he planned it that way.

deformed children. childhood cancer. aids. all gods plan.