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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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"To each according to his contribution" is a principle of distribution considered to be one of the defining features of socialism.

The principle has its roots in the way that capitalism manages its affairs. That is, each is rewarded according to how much he produces. Remuneration increases as the amount of labor contributed increases. However within capitalism, the means of production are owned by a small minority who do not produce, but rather live off the labor of others. Socialism is said to remedy this by putting the means of production in common hands and rewarding individuals according to their contributions.
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Communism doesn't work, hasn't worked, and will never work, it goes against humanity nature.

>Capitalism is bad because people are selfish
>Communism isn't bad because people aren't selfish

Seriously?

Communism is shit and has killed 198,258,783 people in only 100 years.

DEATH TOLLS
Communism: 198,258,783
Capitalism: 39,835,967
National Socialism: 10,296,081

>inb4 capitalism has killed 1.6 billion people because this infograph says so

Actually look that shit up, it's literally a packet of lies. Pic related is literally the same shit listed on your shitty infograph.

Sorry for bad quality and sloppy handwriting, I'm tired and I rushed it.
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>>136452036
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liguidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis

>Sdage for
Not real gommunism. Move on do nexd coundry XDDdDDD
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>>136457285
God bless your soul.
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage 4
Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry :DD
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Communism causes state capitalism anarcho communism is more appropriate
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how does it feel to know that your ideology is the laughing stock of the world, and only braindead pseudo intellectuals who know fuck all about politics and economics actively promote it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHomETco0MI
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Communism is the most humane and efficient socioeconomic system ever conceived.
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>>136457986
It requires people with a job, loving parents, options to any education within the reaches of their wealth and a secular capitalist democracy to get someone to think that communism is at all viable.

People from actual socialist/communist countries hardly ever praise their system because it always spirals into a dictatorship.
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>>136457986
how does it feel that America is the laughing stock of the world since Trump?
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>>136458298
>people from communist countries
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>>136458461
>Vietnam
>Cuba
>China
>ex-Soviet countries

Je bent je commie vlag vergeten kankerbelg
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>I'm ancap because I'm going to be a millionaire too!
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>The insane lefty/pol/ faggot spanish weeaboo tranny is shilling again

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Hello%20Comrades/type/op/
>1116 results found

Is it autism? What's wrong with this weirdo?
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>>136458724
Serious question
If we apply communism and everyone gets the same benefits, pay etc
Why would anyone bother to work hard?
If I'm getting paid the same to be a doctor as I am to be a garbage man, why would I bother ?
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>>136458971
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Hello%20Comrades/type/op/

Stop trying to argue with them you retard. Sage hide and move on.
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>>136457192
lmao at 198 million
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>>136458461
you're wanna be the same as holoc deniers, try being more edgy, maybe it will work
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commies are nazis without the edge and coolness
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>>136452036
Communism has been tried and it has failed. You only need two names to show you why: Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong.

Both were evil tyrants who killed millions because they were forcing people to work for communism because communism doesn't work for people. Together, both of these villains and this evil ideology killed 100 million people that we know of in the 21st century, and thats not even including the other instances of communism that occurred during that time with other notable figures such as Fidel Castro, Kim Il-sung (and his son + grandson), Che Guevara, and Ho Chi Minh who have killed, raped, murdered, and destroyed anything that did not fit their violent ideology.

Communism is a blight upon humanity and the fact that there are people who call themselves human beings that actually believe in this load of bullshit should all be rounded up and sent to places in the world run under Communism or Socialized countries whose intentions are to become Communist. They would not survive. Most would be murdered for being middle class suburban children who think they standing for something. In fact they would be the first to be lead into a dark room, bags over their heads, and then shot. This is how Communism works. This is Communism. You people need to get it through your ignorant heads that it does not work.

Capitalism isn't perfect, but as a system that works better and actually does have people in mind. If you have all this time devoted to thinking on Communism, how about spending it building something better that doesn't require you to rape and murder people in the streets for not adopting a sick and fundamentally flawed ideology such as Communism. How about making an ideology that works WITH people and not AGAINST them or maybe figure out a way to make Capitalism better? In either case, it doesn't matter what you do, stop promoting Communism. It is doomed to fail.

Saged and hidden. Better dead than Red.
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>>136458971
>same pay
that's where you've gone wrong–wage-labour would be eliminated in a communist society, as, ideally, would be money in general

someone who works harder or does a more "important" job to society (in your example, doctors) might receive more benefits in a form different from money–for example, more vacation time or more access to goods. lack of money does not signify lack of material wealth. there would still be personal property, just not private property, and people who work harder would gain easier access to material wealth
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>>136458461
Still fapping over Maduro, PTB/PVDA ?
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