För/Emot SD?

>>136446729
Start your own party. The Svinni Cuckson party. Bake free chocolate chip cookies and make some lemonade and give them out at your rallies. Even the leftists will like you. Remember to be as polite as possible, even to hecklers, and people will naturally be attracted to your side. Say you want the old Sweden back with a welfare state and few if any non Swedish people.

>>136446729
I am a left winger that votes right. It is not a hard question, you sould think more deeply about it re cooperative game theory. The left only works when all do their share and that requires a homogeneous society. Only a cuck would vote left in a multicultural society as it essentially is voting to give their higher taxes to niggers and muslims.

tldr: vote the furthest right you can until immigration has shut down.

>>136446729
Even the right-wing parties in Sweden are to the left of most others. Public services will always be funded, even if/when a more conservative government is in government. Public infrastructure can be fixed, demographics can't beyond a certain point besides extreme measures.

Vote for Fi
We want to criminalize white men
I hope we'll get your vote

>>136446729
Found your own party for likeminded people.

I think what you are expressing is way more common than you think it is. I have heard swedes express the exact same frustration, even before the immigration flood properly took off.

Socialism only "works" with a high IQ population. If you import a bunch of 60-90IQ population that starts to vote.

You have to start building exclaves inside Sweden, giving away land to sovreign arabic micronations inside Sweden. or better known as Ghettos to insulate the Low IQ population taking all the welfare that the high IQ population works to getting.


But SD is pretty socialistic. The only difference between SD and V Is that V wants to make private healthcare illegal while SD wants everyone to pay for Universal Health care and you can pay into Private Healthcare if you want an alternative.

Its like, do you want 75% leftism with no immigration or 100% leftism with immigration?

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>>136446729
SD stands for the kind of socialism we had circa 1950-1980 i.e. "Folkhemmet"
its was the closest to the kind of socialistic utopia everyone dreams of and it worked because we were culturally and ethnically homogeneous
SD can never achieve that kind of "utopia" though since we have loads of shitskins and niggers already established in our country
I will still be voting for them because SD is the most realistic vote to actually halt and discourage further immigration and hopefully reintroduce some of the core values Sweden had during 1950-1980 and force the shitskins and niggers into the workforce or have them leave en masse

>>136447043
B-but i'm a white mang

>>136446729
Are you retarded? SD are filthy leftists economically.

>>136447448
Yeah good point,

doesn't matter, voting is rigged . Only vote for abolishing voting

>>136447448
Socialism never works.
When people have it too good they stop breeding which means there will be a shortage of people paying their forefathers pensions and thus immigration begins.

>>136447950
Yeah economically, i'm all for the gays and girls rights and all that jazz. Just not the mass importing of dead weight rapists. I think many of SDs more underlying cultural views are regressive and counter productive.

Chances are i'll vote for them nästa val anyways

>>136446729
vote for anti immigrant parties they will not pull the social programs out from under your feat. get immigration policy in than go vote for something more akin to your view

>>136446729

It's the only viable alternative for the 2018 election and you know it.

Seriously, who the hell are you else going to vote for?

>>136448215
So you want a progressive leftist party without immigration?

>>136447950

Yes they are but is there any right wing party purely economically speaking? No.

Sure, go ahead and vote for Centern but you know they're not going to stem the tides.

>>136448075
population decline is the greatest enemy to functioning socialism
however with the right incentive for breeding (tax cuts, etc) the population would stay relatively stable
no population growth is better than continuous growth

>>136448342
most swedes dont want to kill the socialist programs, we have a system between socialism and capitalism which has worked really really well previously (read about det svenska folkhemmet, people didnt need to lock their doors and it promoted prosperity and security for both the country and the people)
a declining population and listening to the jews about immigration is what ruined it, it was Olof Palme who killed Sweden, and he was killed for it

>>136448545
Fair enough. Medborgerlig Samling is the furthest right id vote though. C will never get my vote. KD might.

>>136448584
No population growth would lead to societal collapse as the social systems gets stretched thinner and thinner just like they are now.

>>136446729
You will never completely agree with one of the parties. Never. I disagree with SD on the EU issue for instance, but they will still get my vote. I agree with the KD to a certain extent but they won't get my vote. You need to prioritize your issues, and they way I see it, right now there is no bigger threat to Swedish and European sovereignty than (((refugees))).

Moreover, SD isn't even anti-welfare. I don't think much would change. They would just reshuffle the budget to focus more on ethnic Swedes, and not just on the (((refugees))).

All the parties are fundamentally pro welfare state in Sweden, so you don't have to feel bad/give up on your fundamental beliefs.

>>136446729
>I believe in socialism
why
>i think a society thrives if taxes are moderately high and everyone chips in to fund public functions like schools, hospitals, emergency services and public transport etc.
literally everything wrong with our country in one sentence, Swedish Radio is statefunded propaganda, So is the radio channels and state handout run tv stations
Schools are shit, and are worse than god knows what
Hospitals are the worst in europe
emergency services cant do anything
public transport is clogged by achmedis
everything is not working because our money is used the wrong way

literally everything wrong with this shit country is that we give 35% as a private person to the state
50% as a private owned corporatoin
sometimes even 60%

you and your ilk are the reason id rather not work and give to the system and bleeed you dry
until i can keep my personally earned money
you can fuckin hang yourself


also i have never heard anyone give a good reason to why i should pay the state of this shit country, with the money i personally make by creating websites, writing codes and even making systems for your shit kind to use att your filthy work, on your phones etc

fuck your fuckin nigger tier gibs med at attitude

i seriously want this shithole to burn


il end with this
i would never save you, your family members, and your children if i sau a jihadi / arab / non white rape and murder you,. you are the reason we are here and you deserve it
rob the people and expect them to pitch in right
otherwise extrot them att gunpoint.

>>136446729

Why don't you do something instead of just relying on voting?

I'd say the king has done the most in the "Culture war".

swedishcenter.or.jp/test

https://imgur.com/gallery/n3EB3

You can fight without being a sperg.

>>136447857
>SD stands for the kind of socialism we had circa 1950-1980
no they don't.
they have replaced it with liberalism so that they can suck the Moderate partys dick

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>>136448714
>No population growth would lead to societal collapse as the social systems gets stretched thinner and thinner just like they are now.
no, why would it
its only being stretched thinner and thinner today because we have 400,000 shitskins and niggers who we have to pay for and complete economical naïvety within the government (unsustainable spending by the government agencies)
if we would have introduced actual measures to promote having children by giving tax cuts or tax returns for marriage and for having children i honestly doubt that the system would be on the verge of collapse

>>136446729
SD 2018

>>136449017
Because if we dont have population growth, who will pay for all this welfare and social systems? People age and stop working you know.

Socialism, subsidies, are needed only to overcome natural disabilities, helping disabled people for example. Other people born healthy have to grow a spine and take care of themselves.

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>sd
Seriously hope you guys don't do this.

So basically you need taxes and public expenditure to pay for public goods, i.e. roads and armed forces, and to give free handouts to disabled people.

>>136449056
>>136449184

Kill yourselves

>>136449231
så vad fan tror du är bättre att rösta på?
finns fan inget annat att välja mellan

>>136448870
I can respect that, in many ways i feel the same way, but what is the alternative? Privatisation?
So the access money made from the public functions disappear into the pockets of massive corporations? Then we would be in the same boat as the Americans. People dying of easily treatable disease cause they can't afford their own healthcare. No thank you.

I'm curious, if you got to decide, how would you craft the perfect society? National socialism?

>>136449341
Väntar på kollapsen.

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>>136446729
>Agrees with all SD's views
>Doesn't like SD
Enjoy your rape

>>136449017
This
Women hate to work, and they are not meant to either. You see a lot of girls in Norway just not giving a fuck about their career that they spent their early life studying for, because they find out working 8 hours a day is to tiresome. So they get pregnant to get some baby gibs from the government.

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>>136449006
the socialism that was present in the 50's is not compatible with today's globalized economy. the only party that truly wants to keep a functioning welfare state is SD. they are doing ity by focusing on the core principle that made the welfare possible, high IQ people and solidarity. the liberal legislations are just regulatory to adjust for today's economic circumstances.

S are contradiciting themselves by saying they wanna keep the welfare state because of the mass immigration. M aggressively wants to deconstruct the welfare state with mass immigration. SD is the only choice today.

Vote for more niggers and make your moms do it too, they will love more of that bbc

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>>136446729
>I believe in socialism
> i think a society thrives if taxes are moderately high and everyone chips in to fund public functions like schools, hospitals, emergency services and public transport etc.
>I believe in socialism
sounds like u dont even know what socialism is t b h mate?
have u even ever read marx or kropotkin?

>>136450267
I've read Kropotkin. Windy navel-gazer with more footnotes than book.
Maybe if he wrote like you it would cut down on the pages of BS

>>136450415
i agree t b h his books sometimes went one quite a bit to long and rambled
i think he got his critiques of capitalism and marxist-socialism more or less right though

>>136446729
Taxes aren't high in Socialism, they are high in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden
>Kingdom of Sweden
>Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy

>>136450852
this
taxes quite literally didn't exist in catalonia the best example of socialism to date t b h

>>136446963
>muh political parties
King is the ruler of Sweden and EU parliament. Political parties are just for public puppet display.
How many more decades do you Christian retards need to figure out Sweden is a monarchy where king rules supreme and they abide by international EU law? EU btw was also created by monarchy.

>>136451009
The (((Bonnier))) family is the ruler of Sweden.

>>136450976
Whatever. Socialism doesn't has monetary system and democratic political party elections for parliament, also no inflation or uneven salaries.

>>136451109
this is the truth

>>136451109
Why?

>>136451109
They invested into media, which word itself implies non-Socialism. There is no investment in Socialism.

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>>136446729
>i believe in socialism

Stopped reading there. You deserve it. All of it. You will either have no children or your children will be forced to submit or flee. No sympathy for the likes of you.

Immigration is the #1 issue, if you win on immigration everything else good will follow. Good luck Swede-bro.

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>>136446729
>I believe in socialism

>>136446729

>Vänsterpartiet
Vidriga fanskap.

>>136446729
Sounds like you are looking for a Socialism of the Nationalist variety

>>136451333
How are Sweden Democrats going to deport citizen?
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/refugee-law/sweden.php
>To become a citizen through naturalization a person must have been a permanent resident of Sweden for four years if he or she is a refugee.

So all you need is to find an apartment, be there for 4 years and you are Swedish citizen. If Sweden was Socialism they would at least demand insurance, native language and papers, since we still demand that and we aren't even in Socialism any longer.

>>136451130
>doesn't has monetary system
iirc some of the bigge catalonia-aragon collectives used labor vouchers
>democratic political party elections for parliament
well catalonia being AN-SN didnt have a parliment but had its own political model
>also no inflation or uneven salaries.
CNTalonia because of the LV had no inflation
>uneven salaries
did have those
L.V were handed out based on hours worked

pretty cool place t b h
would save if having time machine

>>136446729
Vote sd then start worrying about that stuff

>but besides a mutual love of Sweden and Swedish values and traditions, i don't really share their views.

if you dont vote sd, the only thing you will share is bbc

>>136451863
Voting is pointless in monarchy, they should go on the streets and start killing niggers. Sweden is big, has lots of free space, there's really no need to put any of them into white towns.

>>136451878
>be """"""""""""anarcho"""""""""""""" capitalist
>supports voting in current system
id expect it of """""""an"""""" caps t b h

>>136446729
>>136450490

Vote SD or watch Sweden turn into a caliphate.

>>136449173
you talk about population decline, not a stable population size
if the population neither declines nor grows, the older generation will be replaced at a constant and sustainable rate

>>136446729
>so i'm facing a voting dilemma. I believe in socialism

you're an idiot and you deserve to experience "socialism", problem solved

thing is, what good is education now that almost Everyone in Europe has a bachelor or better, what the fuck is the point of education if there is No work!

Most of you "marxist" nuts don't even know what Real Marxism is, which is supporting the working class however "racist" their views are. Not fucking up the world with immigrants and thus lowering the effect of assembly and the price of labor, but there you have it; The cultural fucking marxists.

If you identify as a "socialist" these days you are either corrupt or an idiot.
And because of you are a Swede then I guess its the latter one.
Almost one third of our Islamic immigration comes through Sweden, where they basically hand out citizenship left and right.

>>136452167
Sweden is getting replaced by niggers, they cost less, are less likely to challenge the capital powers and really international rich people can move anywhere they like, there's no restriction to be in Sweden or even store money in Sweden. Those are just investors, they can go anywhere, but niggers will stay with you, but i think you will migrate too. Stop voting and start killing.

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I'm going to form an ancap party. Who is with me?

>>136449733
>Women hate to work, and they are not meant to either.
it happens in Sweden as well
most women complain about being paid less then men in their positions but they fail to take into account that they take many more leave days and sick days, work many hours less, and generally dont perform at the same level as men
also they lack the negotiation skill to actually get a proper pay raise

>>136452388
form an an-com party and fix the place up t b h and kill all the capitalists and social-democrats and liberals fucking things up

>>136446729
>and the party i like the most are vänster partiet

for those who dont know, VP are our communist party here in sweden. what the fuck is wrong with you anon? why would you vote for them?

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It's a pipe dream but only lone wolves or SMR really sees the problem fully, SD have ekeroths, Paula Beiler and other jews, and is infected at the core. It could turn into something good if SDU wakes up and realizes race is important and how jews are parasites for the most part.
I think voting is somewhat pointless, people either wake up as a whole to the jews plot, or they wont. (((Elections))) can sway sheeps but wont save a country in this age.

>>136452313
Everybody knows what real Socialism is, it's just that dumb Christians like to pretend their capitalistic failures are fault of Communism. If they were so nationalistic as they claim those Christian Jew-comapny employed Neo-Nazis they wouldn't work with foreigners, they wouldn't employ foreigners, problem would solve itself without the need of country or government. Nobody forcing you to breed with niggers or to employ them, so why are those Christian Nazis praying in same church as those Mexicans and niggers? They do not care about nationalism, they will migrate as soon as they are in corner, allow the country to go freedom anywhere.

>>136446729
>not voting center for less taxes.

>>136452489
There are no Communist in Sweden, only Christian monarchy cucks. Stop sucking black dick, stop taking money from foreigners, stop employing niggers, you won't have any problem. We should examine every one of those nationalists where they get their money from and we should examine their companies to see how many Arabs they employ, you would see how full of bullshit they are, probably sponsored by same Jews who sponsor migration.

>>136446729
Vote SD, getting rid of shitskins is priority number one because there won't be a Sweden unless you do.

>>136452525

we're having enough problems with our own politicians all of whom are tied to the EU as is.
It doesn't help that we live next to one of the most backwards "country" or zone in the world.

I love nationalism, it works, it has nothing to do with alienating other nations, but it is all about working together as a society in order to thrive. Nationalism allows for real marxism, but Culture Marxism does not allow for any other form of government to exist.

>>136446729
First you need to make your society mostly homogenous again, then you can implement socialist policies (with nationalistic constraints) again. It's not hard to understand.

>>136452489
capitalism is the reason forced migration exists mate
in order to keep the scheme running u must import more people to keep it running

>>136452784

goes without saying, but its too late for sweden, almost no swedes left in that "country".

>>136449341
rösta på ingen?

>>136452887
>capitalism is the reason forced migration exists matein order to keep the scheme running u must import more people to keep it running

Corruption is the reason why it exist, and all of those assholes on the left Destroyed our 1 chance of liberating Europe, they chose to fuck up the populism because it was "racist".

The "left" destroyed any future possibilities for the working class to achieve something.

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>>136452860
>blaming Communism
You know this can go both ways:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats
>Party chairman Jimmie Åkesson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmie_%C3%85kesson
>He was a member of the Moderate Youth League, the youth wing of the Moderate Party

>picture related Moderate Party

What now faggot?
Not only is this more proof than you imaginary Commies, it's direct proof he was in Moderate Party.

>>136449341
>så vad fan tror du är bättre att rösta på?finns fan inget annat att välja mellan

Stem SD, selv om det er over 4 år for sent.
Sverige fortjener egentlig ikke partiet nå som landet ligger i ruiner, figurativt.

>>136452955
Detta

>>136453034
>"muh corruption"
thats still capitalism mate
and the left u speak of are actually liberals who call themselves "social"-democrats to mislead the working class
and yes "social"-Democrats are capitalists

>>136453105

What the fuck are you on about retard, I'm an Actual Marxist. And I'm also a nationalist, I dont believe in fucking absolutist opinions.
I have no side.
Im against immigration AND corruption!!!

Communism is the opposite of Marxism you idiot. Marx wrote Criticism of communism because he thought it was utopian and unrealistic.
Marxism was corrupted in the 70s to include refugee shilling and feminism, all of which is bullshit, and they dropped working class agenda.


Piss off with your bullshit

>>136453222
>liberals who call themselves "social"-democrats

Yeah if they weren't corrupt and for globalization of labor and immigration and all the other aspect of their neoliberal fucking bullshit!

>>136446729
>Vänster Partiet
>What do?

kys.

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Genom att ta in låg-IQ rasfrämlingar från världens alla hörn har vi signerat vårt folks dödsdom, och utan en radikal förändring kommer det inte finnas något samhälle värt att betala in skatt för att upprätthålla eftersom det kommer se ut som valfritt land från mellanöstern om 20-30 år.

Den enda socialism vårt folk kan överleva utifrån är en nationalistisk socialism, men för att nå dit måste vi först ta och rensa upp vårt samhälle. Internering och repatriering!

En röst på SD är tusen gånger bättre än något annat av alternativen i dagsläget, men det är enda bara ett knappt babysteg i rätt riktning.

>>136453366
Communism has nothing to do with utopia, neither Marxism. That's American interpretation of Marxism and Communism. Also they should make up their mind if it's Bolshevism or Marxism. Btw neither Bolsheviks, neither Marxists were in power in Second Polish Republic or Weimar Republic, those republics were run by Roman Catholics and monarchy. So once again in Sweden is similar story, they blame Socialism for monarchy problems. Every one of those leaders came from monarchy background, nothing to do with Russia, Marxism, Communism or Bolshevism.

>>136446729
the only reason you think socialism works is because you had a homogeneous population. Socialism won't work any longer for your country.

>>136446729

You answered your own question anon

Social programs won't survive with more immigration (some people even say open borders are a right wing conspiracy to crash social security)

so by voting against immigration you're voting for the social safety net at the same time

you're welcom

>>136453610
i dont know if u are agreeing with me or not?
but i u are supporting the "SOC"-DEMs then just think bout this
who was it who stabbed the spartacists in the back in weimar?
who was it who destroyed one of the greatest examples of revolution in catalonia-aragon?

just food for thought

you think socialist policies are good because you've seen them actually sort of work because a nation of all whites is the only possible way for that not to rapidly go up in flames. yours is no longer an all white nation. base your vote on immigration

>>136453979
problem is the "socialism" that u think of isnt socialism but a more nationalist form of social-democracy which is still capitalism but even that devolves into "muh crone not real capitalism"

if u want a good example of a socialist/communist society look at catalonia during the S.C.W
no taxes
no big gov welfare app
workers/unions control
etc

>>136454281
Socialism is simply that foreigners can't buy land/companies, since the land/companies belong to government and collectives. Of course you can sell products or build elsewhere if other countries allow it.

>>136455033
well depends what brand of socialism/communism u follow
obvious theres the brand u described now
then thei the version that kropotkin and othes proposed

but ehh i get u same general ideas
its more a question of implementation
>marxian view
feudalism>capitalism>socialism>world socialism>communism
>AN-COM/COL/SN view
feudalism>capitslism>>>>>>>>anarchism

essentially marxism is incremental
while the more libertarian schools of though believe in one giant leap to stateless anarchism/communism

>>136446729
Vad fan tror du händer om 100 år när negrerna är 10 miljarder i bara afrika, ska alla få plats i Sverige för att du röstade på 7 klövern? Det finns bara 2 partier i Sverige, SD och 7 klövern och om du inte röstar SD förtjänar du att utplånas tillsammans med alla andra rasförrädare.

>>136446729
Rösta SD

>>136455422
Foreigners can't buy land in North Korea and China, foreigners couldn't buy land in Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Vietnam..etc. Which also means their currencies aren't recognized and Socialism doesn't compares own money with dollar or stocks, it simply exists independently. Should be noted that China has certain islands like Hong Kong, Macau who are open to capitalism.

>>136446729

It's understandable that you are torn.

The political background for this is a giant bag not often ventured into. Communism was supposed to be a global revolution, "Workers Of The World Unite". So all the old style death march commies tended to be internationalists.

Meanwhile, Hitler's welfare state was nationalist.

Basically, organized leftism that embraced orthodox marxism was extremely anti-nationalist, and completely wiped out any nationalist-leftism by continuous association with nazism and whatnot, labelling it as right-wing extremist.

Few ideological battles have been as harsh or bloody as internationalist leftists vs nationalist leftists - I'd even say most leftists today say nationalism is inherently right-wing and there is no such thing as nationalist leftism - even if you want a massive welfare state with high progressive taxes, free education, public healthcare etc. but nationalist, you would be labelled far-right. Leftists have done a complete war of eradication against the very concept of nationalist leftism.

But this is the background. You are caught in this situation. The question is what to do - how do you make a choice?

Here's the important thing: Economic policy can be changed almost over night. At least in just very few years. Big increase in taxes, increase in welfare payments, this is just tweaking some parameters in databases and reality adjusts.

But immigration cannot be reversed in few years, or even many years. There's no going back.

If you vote pro-immigration, you are trapped in hell forever and Sweden dies permanently. If you vote anti-immigration and economic policies go too far against you, it can be changed quite soon and easily.

>>136456447
>"Workers Of The World Unite"
Lol, that's a slogan, not a law. It's a simple call to abandon monarchy.

>>136446729
Bästa är att rösta på SD och få dom att bilda regering. Så länge dom inte lyckas med det så kommer de andra partierna inte ta invandringsfrågan på allvar. Förhoppningsvis får det de andra partierna att omvärdera och vi kan förhoppningsvis komma ur den här äckliga pk-perioden som förstör det moderna samhället.

Alla stora svenska partier står för välfärdsstaten och är socialistiska så om ditt argument för att vara vänster är att du gillar höga skatter och välfärd så kanske du borde tänka om lite. Vänsterpartiets ideologi bygger på att Sverige är ett industriland. De har för tusan pushat 6 timmar arbetsdag i över 30 år och fortfarande inte fått igenom det.

Jag vill ha en väl fungerande välfärdsstat men jag anser att man bäst når dit genom att sysselsätta folk. 2/3 av alla som anställs i Sverige anställs av småföretag. Därför röstar jag helst för partier som vill göra det mer förmånligt och enklare att starta och driva eget. Det generar så sjukt mycket mer jobb och skatteintäkter än att staten ska gå ut och "skapa" jobb. De rödgröna i Sverige fokuserar på att höja arbetsgivaravgifter och beskatta all möjlig skit (senast km-skatten) som gör det ohållbart att anställa folk i mindre företag.

Jag tror också att om vi gör det mer förmånligt att lyckas här i Sverige så kommer inte lika många företag och rika människor flytta sina tillgångar utomlands. Jag ser hellre att ett företag eller en rik person betalar mindre absurd skatt här i Sverige men ändå är kvar här och spenderar pengarna (som i sin tur går tillbaka i skattesystemet) än att vi ska skrämma bort alla som lyckas med absurda skatter.

>>136453645

>Communism

monarchy background, you're stretching this bullshit far. You don't think the bourgeoisie class can be corrupt enough on their fucking own!

Communism is a system where the state has all the power, The state is CORRUPT and if not, then it is CORRUPTABLE!!!
Nobody wants to be FORCED to live under some fat fucks dictatorial BS society, if you want that then move to North fucking Korea.

The monarchy in sweden has no power over politics, I would have agreed with you if you said their policies mimic those of other EU countries because they do, but the fucking monarchy.. Give me a fucking break.

Sure the upper class families still control most, if not all of the seats in the European Commission and the European parliament.
But they all LARP as marxists.
You guys Always end up shilling for them, look at fucking Antifa.

>>136456536
Swedens monarchy are barely a monarchy, you don't understand this since you are not from here (judging by your flag) they are really just pretty faces for old ladies to read about in old lady magazines. They have no power and continue to exist only cause of their status of celebrity.

>>136446729
Nästan 300 miljarder går till invandring just nu - mer än alla samhällssektioner tillsammans.

Rösta klokt, annars är det kört för framtida generationer.

>>136458570
>Nästan 300 miljarder går till invandring just nu

det meste går nok rett i lommene på politikere og vennene deres. EU = gift!

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SD is controlled opposition, there is no political solution. Arm yourself, start lifting, breed white children we will remove kebab and the kikes when shtf

Vote for NMR.

It's a hard choice - It's either a promise of a future with SD, or doom with the other parties.

How there's even a choice to be made is beyond me, man.

>>136449471
>>136452955
Perfect example of why Sweden is shit right here.
Why are you waiting for the collapse? What is your particular skills that would make you special during/after a collapse? I can bet my left ball that you barely passed high school, so your actual education is NULL.

Waiting for the collapse is the same as in supporting the left.
Spamming the same fucking picture a guy from SD with a jew doesn't prove shit. I can counter that by posting this: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/har-skamtar-sjostedt-sd-grovt-om-judar/

So what now? You gonna find another picture of a jewish flag and counter post me?
Useless shits.

>>136446729
2 choices
>vote for any party that will permanently destroy the country, but I agree slightly more with their tax rate or some shit like that
OR
>vote for a party that will NOT permanently destroy the country, but I agree slightly less with their tax rate or some shit like that

Oh geeze, I just don't know what to pick quize :(((

>>136459366

The funny thing is that that "Jew" there is actually an Iranian. He's mentally ill. Surely, SD must've known about this. If you listen to Red Ice interviewing Christopher Dulny you'll understand that the leaders are woke on the JQ.

>>136446729
From my view SD are socdems that oppose immigration.

>>136459378
Kek
>vill ta hårdare tag i våld och brottsligheten
>partiets ledning är själva dömda för dråp, misshandel, brott mot kniv/vapen lagen mm

>>136459904
Det är väl 'hårdare tag' om något.

>>136459378
Wrong. First vote for SD so they get to the government, then when SD doesn't actually do anything, then vote for NMR

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>>136459629
I'm waiting for the collapse so I can finally kill myself.

>>136460080
hahaha, bäst

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>>136459378
>NMR
LMAO

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>>136446729
We are all voting for SD, the next best hope for sweden in the radius of winning and actually changing something. Get on or get lost. You have no excuse.

>>136449341
Flytta till någon av våra nordiska grannar. Själv så har jag tänkt mig Norge.

>I believe in socialism

KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS

>>136460374

LMAO
M
A
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>>136460473

Du vet väl att Norge är i princip ett jävla U-land.

>>136446729
>I believe in socialism, i think a society thrives if taxes are moderately high and everyone chips in to fund public functions like schools, hospitals, emergency services and public transport etc
So you are a faggot.

>>136446729
Your socialism won't work with the invasion. It's simple really. Get rid of immigrants or sweden is doomed to be less than it could be.

Vote for your "ideals" or vote for sweden. Meanwhile, your daughters are developing a taste for nigger dick.

>>136447863
Even white men can vote for Fi... And if they win then the choice will be made FOR you next time so you wont have to deal with this dilemma again.

>>136460990
It is working, arguing ideology is pointless, it will keep working because we are too rich and intelligent to fail. The only problem is demographics.

>>136460473
Deras efterblivna språk,,, i can't.
Hellre Finland

>>136446729
Listen Sven, I lived in Swedistan for 6 years, have citizenship there (as my wife is an ethnic Swede) and still keep up with politics and the current situation there. You have been losing your social programs little by little for years. I mean, during my short time there they managed to privatize Apoteket & Posten for example and they had already privatized public transportation in Stockholm long before I moved there. Always with the promise that it will be cheaper in the long run. This under the guidance of the more "social" political parties. Anyway, during the last 10 years after leaving Sweden I have made numerous return trips to visit family and friends. The change I have witnessed is unbelievable. I have many left-leaning friends there and they don't see a problem. I don't know if it's boiling frog phenomenon, can't see the forest for the trees or whatever but the change is vast from an outside perspective. I don't have time to write a book on the subject here but if you don't vote SD (I will be) you might as well just kiss your culture and the future of your country goodbye. I am genuinely concerned for you.

In b4 "you were an immigrant too"

>>136446729
SD = more taxes

Im not voting for any party that wants to raise taxes, fuck em

>>136446729
>SD is the party for you unless you also like intersectionalism

>>136446729
I have a friend from Norrland.
He's redder than blood, coming from a proud family of steelworkers and lumberjacks.
He, his parents and their parents had voted VPK ever since it was founded.

He cried tears of fucking blood when he visited Stockholm some ten years ago. To salt his wounds, I talked about how the VPK leadership routinely uses private healthcare and puts their kids in private schools, all to get far away from the filthy worker class.
He now votes SD, hoping for a revolution within Vänsterpartiet to shed the worst faggotry.

If someone ever suggests NMR for you, just remember that they are the controlled opposition like the NDP in Germany. The goal is to suck up retards and maintain the clown status. NMR plans their fights with AFA, this is possible because they share leadership.

>>136446729
Jag förstår vad du menar, men som du själv sa - det ända populära partiet som kan begränsa invandringen på riktigt är SD. Lag och ordning är nog det viktigaste att få grep på just nu, så kommer definitivt rösta på de och tipsar dig att göra det samma

>>136461239
It's not an arguement of economic sustainability, friction between cultures will increase, resentment will fester made worse by the government and media's refusal to tell the truth. This will push more and more people away from the liberal parties toward conservative, nationalist parties. Division will spread, wages will decrease, crime increases, your Swedish stability that works based on your homogenous wealth will not last forever if trends continue.

There is only one reason your country has worked: homogeneity.

>>136461418
Yeah, thanks it's nice with an honest outside perspective. It's humiliating for this beautiful country to be reduced to the butt of a joke. Come next election i think i will have made my mind up in SDs favour. I'm glad i made this post it's only reassured my thinking.

Something is very wrong if every time i take a bus home from work now, there are more foreigners than natives and the air is bustling with loud angry arabic. I used to cherish my bus rides, it's a Swedish stereotype that out of politeness and decency you keep your voice down when riding public transport out of respect for your fellow passengers. Now it seems a moment of silence and reflection is a thing of the past. Unspeakably sad.

>>136461916
Indeed. It used to be confined to areas like Rinkeby and Husby but now it's spread all over. I grew up in a shithole ghetto here in the US and was one of only 2 white kids. It was such a relief when I moved to Sweden after having met my wife. I never thought a place existed where I didn't constantly have to watch my back. The feeling was indescribable. I could breathe freel. Now things have changed for the worse and it breaks my heart. Sweden was for me a beacon of hope and a repose from the shit I grew up in. I was never approached and offered drugs when I was living there for example, yet during my last visit, I was approached 3 times during a 5-minute walk across Sergels torg. Africans every time. Reading about the drastic increase in violent crime tears me apart.

>>136446729

It doesn't matter what ideology you believe in, because the preassure this immigration is putting on all of us leads to a society with less ability to act, thus whatever policy you would like to be put into place will never come to fruition due to no means of enforcing it.

We need to get rid of this anchor as soon as possible, because it takes up an incredible amount of resources to keep this system alive. This holds us back from developing other things we need

Because we are falling behind in other areas we will see a future of undeveloped healthcare, education, police etc that will lead to social instability which is worsened because we have a significant portion of the population that are not loyal to Sweden or western values whatsoever.

Imagine when the economy falls on rough times and the social security gets reduced, there will be violent riots and conflicts over the entire nation that we, the people that allowed this to happen in the first place, have to clean up.

Now we have to deal with the fact that we live in a shithole, all because ten-twenty years ago we didn't want people to get mad at us for speaking up against immigration. How weak and pathetic we will feel to have given up one of the most functional and safe societies that ever existed for the sake of social approval and pats on the back

>>136461916
I do have empathy for people fleeing wars and poverty but when those very people start turning your country into a 3rd world lawless hellhole, it's time to put a stop to it.

>>136463589
I look at it this way, Sweden and indeed Europe and the western world lives in comfort because of capitalism. Our cars drive on 'their' oil and we wear cheap clothes made in factories with child labour. Naturally poor countries we are milking for our own gain will be riddled with war, poverty and suffering.

People here enjoy these luxuries and still will say they want to help those poor counties. In it's roots it is hypocritical. You can't shop at say H&M and in your next breath say you actually care about the lives of poor people. It's double think, contradictory.

Though it is awful, it is fact. It's how the world today functions. It is what we choose.

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vote SD for our government and NMR for our kommun
that is the best way to get rid of the immigrants and still live like we do now

I agree with you, taxes and public healthcare, school etc. is pretty damn good and I wouldn't want to have it any other way

Importing all of the worlds poor disadvantaged people to Europe is not a feasible option and i can't believe people actually thought it was a good idea.

People are people, and all human life has value. But all cultures are not equal. Ours is a modern and accepting one, with room for own opinion, somewhat equality between the sexes. Room for creative freedom, the joys of life. Music and art.

Because of our wealth we are educated and have in many ways moved past the stage of acting out of emotion and without thought. They have not. They let their desires rule over them and believe in something so blatantly made up and stupid as the quran.

They do not belong here. We are fundamentally different and as the situation and rape epidemic in Sweden has proven we are not compatible.

w/1rmxPqBMvmqKN

12 years gay jew and and muslim woman from sweden

>>136463589
I have zero empathy for subhumans, If I got an order to kill them all I would not hesitate for a moment.

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I urge you all to vote for socialist and immigrant friendly parties. I want you to be replaced and slaughtered/raped so you can serve as an ever better example of what not to do.

A winning argument here is already "Dont go the way of the swedes" and i want you to destroy yourself so the rest of Europe can be saved

And no we wont take you in as refugees, neither do i want you to move here. Fight for your country or die, cowards

>>136463589
>people fleeing wars and poverty
haha good one there
If you know anything about the people comming here it's that they are mostly men aged 20-30 that claim to be under 18 for free gibs
They aren't fleeing from war, they live in peace
If we were to get women and kids fleeing it would be different, atleast they can't fight back against their "war and poverty"
The men that comes here are in perfect conditions to fight against it and to help their nation become good again

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>>136449173
>We're still dealing with people THIS retarded
Immigrants are an economic DRAIN. They cost far more than they produce. They NEVER pay back in taxes what they cost, even if they get a job. Bringing in the third world makes the problem worse. If you can't pay pensions for Swedes, you certainly can't pay for pensions and all other kinds of gibs to the entire middle east. Even if we leave aside ALL the other enormous problems that immigrants bring, it is absolute economic suicide to bring there.

At this point, if you don't vote at least for SD you are mentally retarded.

>>136461567
>NMR
>Controlled opposition

They sure lack a lot of smart people and strategies, but controlled opposition?

fucking kek

>>136451401
Is this bait? Or are you just a roleplaying amerilard?

>>136446729
non-stop activism is the future not voting, that means everyday with no excuses

Social democrats are a bunch of moderates in red ties. There is no Left party in Sweden for except the loony ones(FI and Commies). SD is the closer to the left when it comes to economics than the Red-greens and Borgarna

Scot on holiday in Sweden rn
Holy fuck its not even a meme Sweden is truly fucked.
Guys that served us at the takeaway were refugees, guy that delivered our pizza was dark too.
Looked at Stockholms region snaps last night too and saw two blond girls grinding two muslims. It's not even a fucking joke at this point lads.

>>136446729
they aren't even right of centre, they're all socialists

>>136446729
Man tappar hjärnceller av att läsa ditt inlägg. Lycka till med att bygga din socialistiska utopi när invandringen får välfärdsstaten på fall. SD är redan folkhemsossar så rösta på dem.