/leftypol/ anarchist memeball thread- non retarded edition

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>>136445181
>Since most of you still think
50-year old here, I've seen more real "anarchists" than you've seen trap porn mp4s. They tend to be black-and-olive-drab clad vegans with straggly facial hair who stink of patchouli oil, BO, cheap rolling tobacco, and muslim's cum in their obligatory dreadlocks.
Look and you will see the sartorial formula hasn't changed much over decades, except that they all wear "Gordon Freeman" glasses now.

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XxYwWg7F8I

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>>136445181
you leftists are so cringy when you try to meme

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>>136445181
I'm ready, when ever you are OP, to view your evidence of these "multiple functioning socities". Please do not refer to works of fiction like Swift of whatever...

>>136446073
Just a few? Ukraine Free Territory, Spanish Catalonia, the Shin Min Autonomous Region.

>>136446316
Lil meme tip 4u

Less words

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>>136446316
Pfft. Spanish Catalonia was BTFO'd by pic related, who are the other niggers?

>>136446441
Franco was just Adolf's bottom. And Adolf was just Henry Ford's bottom. The real threat to Revolutionary Catalonia was Stalin, the """commie""" faggot. Even stole all their gold reserves. Plus you bongs took a Naval policy which favoured fascism over the anarchist revolutionaries.

See >>136445845

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>>136446316
Evidence, faggot, stop fermenting there in your puddle of brown KY jelly and show us your anarcho-utopias

>>136446652
Where's your Spanish "anarchists" now? And didn't General Franco live a long, happy and celebrated life after kicking their unwashed arses?

>>136446659
See >>136446316
But don't use silly words like Utopia anon. It makes you look like a silly billy that's up to all manner of chicanery.

>>136445358
marx said despotism was a necessary step towards "real communism", however when that was tried, the despotism became self serving and self perpetuating

you will need a plan different than the one outlined by marx

>>136446806
Are you going to post something or not

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I live on the left coast and I can assure you every stereotype /pol/ has of anarchists/communists are completely true.

They generally hang around Whole Foods or Indie shit-holes.
>Furries, traps, Antifa, etc.
They all have a few major hubs where they talk in public.

They are some of the most disgusting, ugly, subhuman tier "people" I have ever laid my eyes upon.

And for the record they all support Hillary and are generally dumb as fuck collage leftshits. They all speak the same and have the same mannerisms.

Please; if you care for the evniorment or anything having to do with the continued survival of Earth: collectively kill yourselves.

Even as I type this I feel bile in the back of my throat from the very image of you degenerate fucks.

>>136446772
Where are they now? Beating the shit out of Brit bong tourists :^)
But Catalonian independence is currently less rooted in anarchism and a Scottish-type push for sovereignty. Now is not the time anarchism. That comes later.

>>136446832
>need a plan
Nigga there have already been anarchists societies with millions of citizens. Read George Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia". He went there. He fought against Franco's Hitler-cucks. He experienced the city of Barcelona under anarchist control (for lack of a better word) and loved it. Knowledge is your friend.

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>>136446806
Utopias refer to idealistic political schemes that can ONLY exist within works of fiction, and I consider "anarchy" to be like some excerpt from Gullivers travels or pic related.
>>136446895
Is this one of your "multiple functioning societies" - drunks fighting other drunks when there's no cops around?

Reasons why leftists can't meme
>no sense of self-irony

>>136446845
The fuck do you want faggot? Wikipedia links? Fine. Fucking mouth breathing bong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_Shinmin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia

And today, Revolutionary Rojave in Kurdish Syria is being run very much along anarchist/mutualist principles. One of the main Kurdish guerrilla leaders was heavily influenced by Murray Bookchin.

>>136446862

this is good video of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crQWHvovJYg

>>136446862
>Support Hillary
>Anarchists
Pick one nigga. Sounds like those cucks know about as much about anarchism as you do. Maybe less.
See
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>>136447137
>We don't need no system
Goes to (((Wikipedia)))
Nice try fsggot

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>>136447151
>Muh youtube evidence coz muh proud yellow and black anarkists rule the """free""" marketplace of muh ideas like seasteading which is definitely not retarded and will work, plz gibs to muh seasteading patreon so we can make this happen f.a.m, it's not a handout if you're as gullible as I am and think it will work
I am so going to violate the NAP if we ever meet

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>>136447137
Fucking ISIS cocksucker. Mighta guessed. You a pedo too, or am I being islamophobic?

>>136446987
>He experienced the city of Barcelona under anarchist control
how much did it last? because the main criticism of anarchy is its instability

nobody compares anarchism to orwellian society, thats communism

>>136447224
...this ... this was meant to be some sort of argument, wasn't it? A crowd sourced but otherwise free, non academic database of knowledge. Wow. Can someone get this nigga some helium?

>>136447289
That's a big png for a little nip-cuck. That yellow is very vibrant though, like your "yellow taxi" women. Very easy for white men to get into ;P
Just kiddin' I know you're a LARPing weeb faggot.

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>>136447137
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia
>trade unions were de facto in command of most of the economy and military forces.

>>136447310
>Receives evidence
>Goes off the deep end to distract from obvious embarrassment
>B-but Alex Jones told me this anarchism thing was just unwashed Hillary supporters
>I d-didn't expect to be shown facts contradicting my obvious controlled opposition media

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>>136445181


I'm a HUGE FAN of anarchy and I've used the anarchist flag on /pol/ (it's the ONLY ideological flag I've ever used on /pol/, but ONLY ONCE since I'm against ideological flags on /pol/). People think that anarchism is only for edgy teens, but I'm 29 and I'm against edginess simply for the sake of edginess. Anarchism does NOT mean 'without rules', it means 'without RULERS' - which means that anarchism is a system where we are TRULY FREE (as opposed to 'free-range', like we are now). I dream of a world without governments, Jews, niggers, Muslims, borders, religions, flags, countries, money, human-made laws, weapons, courts and wars. I dream of a world where everyone has raw vegan organic alkaline food, unfluoridated water, shelter, clothing (unless they want to be nude like me) and unindoctrinating non-compulsory education. I dream of a world where everyone can joyfully, peacefully, truthfully, freely, independently and unconditionally lovingly explore both inner space and outer space together - forever.
In a perfect world that was morally and spiritually advanced, there would be NO government. But without the moral and spiritual advancement required to handle anarchism maturely, the best type of government would be a minarchist government. We could use minarchism to transition into peaceful anarchism.

inb4 peaceful anarchism doesn't exist

Peaceful anarchism DOES exist, don't fall for kike lies.

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>>136445181
max par

>>136447464
ok ben

>>136445181

I bet you grew up middle class, failed at school, have a shit job or no job at all and resent the system you failed at while people who barely speak the language thrive in it because its so fucking easy

t. executive who grew up dirt poor but worked hard

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>>136446316
>Spanish Catalonia

Remember how they burned nuns alive?

>>136445839
most of the times leftists take things too seriously so the sense of humor suffers in the process.
on the other hand, they're closer to reason which is kind of the point, not being funny

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You know that the memeball is supposed to mock that political ideology right?

>>136446316
>Free territory
Collapsed in less than 3 years after spending the majority of its life under the control of the white guard

>Spanish Catalonia
not ever really under anarchist control, had an anarchist influence but that was even more socialist/syndicalist at best.

>Shin Min
less than 3 years in existence and was plagued with massive problems

It seems like every time there is an attempt at a stateless society it dissolves in less than 3 years and is conquered by the closest army. Anarchism is a transitional period, not a stable society.

>>136447306

i'm not even an ancap this is just the closest flag to hoppean monarchism that exists, i believe in war blood and slaughter

>>136447330
>Instability
You mean it's inability to withstand attacks from bloated violent super states like USSR and """communist"""" China.
In that sense, you should also be against Europeans because when confronted with speeding trucks bearing the religion of peace their frail pink bodies prove to be quite unstable also.

>>136447542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGMS_QvbH90

>>136447209
Oh you've totally just proved us wrong! What a stinging blow to my arguement!
In fact; let's just send all of Antifa/Communists to the Middle East to fight ISIS. You're a genius, Harry.

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Nothing to lose but our chains, comrade :^)

>>136447589
>SS
>complains about violence

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>this thread

>>136447667
>you should also be against Europeans
indeed, fuck these cucks

>>136447692

Only through anarchism can we ever be truly free (as opposed to free-range, like we are now).

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>>136447425

That's a lot of effort for such a shit-tier response. lol

I'm sure you'll make a cool sounds when your body impacts the Earth.

>>136447477
You seem to be flagging an issue here. Anarchism is anti-government, not anti-governance. It's almost as if you had no idea what you were talking about when you showed up here. But your jpg shows that you are a supremely knowledgeable gentleman not afraid to enter into the """free""" marketplace of ideas. Unless people ask you to give a historical example of """anarcho""" capitalism or a demonstration of how it will work today without calling Kevin Costner out of retirement for Waterworld 2: This time it's a voluntary trade between two consenting parties in an abstract scenario devoid of any relevance to real human economic interaction.

>>136446441
franco was soooooo ooo ooooo oo o shit, even hitler looked at him in with shame
>couldn't have acomplished anything without the help of germany and italy's artillery and aviation
>he was hardcore christcuck
>would bend over and take pope dicc
>wahaha fucking fremasons amerijews and kikes
>loses war and procedes to be gigacucked by the us
I can go on but it's seriously so cringeworthy this fag

>>136446316
>Spanish Catalonia
"The fact that these forces were distasteful to some anarchist leaders only emphasizes the cleavage between doctrine and practice. If, theoretically, the CNT and FAI were opposed to the state dictatorship advocated by the Marxists, they nevertheless established in countless localities, with the aid of vigilance groups and revolutionary tribunals, a multiplicity of parochial dictatorships, which they exercised in naked form not only against priests and landowners, moneylenders and merchants, but in many cases against small tradesmen and farmers."
-Burnett Bolloten "The Grand Camouflage: The Spanish Civil war and revolution". page 76
Blood of Spain page 146 Juan Miravitlles, an Esquerra representative on the militia committee, which was the high command, protested to the "libertarians" on that committee about the terror. He reports: (page 146)
Day after day we found ourselves on the committee repeating "why these assassinations?" [...] A man was killed because his sister was a nun. [...] They called a man a fascist simply because he went to mass. President Companys said "you are drowning the revolution in blood" [...] "Tell Companys not to come here again" Durutti said to me and Tarradelas. "If he does I will fill him full of bullet holes."
Miravitlles continues, page 150

Their leaders on the committee said the libertarian movement was not responsible for the assassinations: "It's the armed worker patrols. Some of the members are assassins." But in my view, they couldn't confront this type of people who represented for them their own ideology. With the notable exception of Durutti at the front, the CNT was always plagued with indiscipline and didn't know how to deal with it [...]
Ronald Fraser then describes these worker patrols as follows
These acted as a revolutionary police force, and were made up of 700 men - 325 of the CNT, 185 of the Esquerra, 145 of the UGT, and 45 of the POUM.

>>136445181
Memeballs are mockery not flattery.

leftists can't meme

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>>136447511
I aint readin' all dat shit my dude

>>136447847

Anarchism is about self-government. Anarchism is about the right to own your own body. We have a word for not owning your own body, it's called 'slavery'.

>>136447909
that's the joke

>>136447909
It's just standard leftist memes bro.

>>136446316
>>136447891
Cont.
Ronald Fraser Blood of Spain, page 367, quotes Fernando Aragon, who describes the peasant collective where he was forced to remain.
Three or four of the peasants with larger holdings tried to leave the collective, but the committee controlled all the seed and fertilizer. [...]
[...]
The committee members went around with pistols in their belts looking, but not working, like revolutionaries. [...] But what was even worse was that the committee members were lining their pockets: all the best food ended up in their pockets.
[...]
One of the twins fell ill with a kidney complaint. [...] They told me to walk. [...] "What sort of equality is this? You ride around in cars when I need to take my child to the doctor". They still refused.
[...]
There was great discontent. The women talked about it. We went out to work in the fields - and it was right that we should. But why didn't the wives of the committee members have to go? [...] I wanted to leave but I could not. We had no money, no means, Moreover the committee had guards posted on the roads. It was terror, dictatorship.
[...]
We could not get rid of those committee members. They had the arms.
Ronald Fraser summarizes:
For detractors of Aragon collectives, Fernando's experience was more or less typical: For supporters exceptional, but undeniable

>>136447847
>Anarchism is anti-government, not anti-governance
you must be desperate if you are falling back to dumb word games

>>136447520
>People think that anarchism is only for edgy teens, but I'm 29

Yes but an immature 29

>Anarchism does NOT mean 'without rules', it means 'without RULERS'

That is like a school with no teachers. whether we like rules or not we need them and a way to enforce them. Imagine if you had to take a test and cheating was forbidden but there was no consequences for cheating. People would cheap. What do you think riots are? A brief amount of time when the state cannot intervene

>I dream of a world where everyone has raw vegan organic alkaline food

Take a single agriculture class. Just google agriculture. ORGANIC FOOD = LOWER YIELD PER ACRE that is why it is more expensive you idiot. If we went organic then even if we used modern farming techniques we couldn't feed the world.

>lovingly explore both inner space and outer space together - forever.
If I could steal a spacecraft I would, without rules I would. Who is going to fund this in a taxless society?

> NO government. But without the moral and spiritual advancement required to handle anarchism maturely

Wifebeating is common, most people arent nonviolent or mature.

Faggot.

THREAD THEME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HzlOASkiLA

>>136447967
>>136446316
Cont.
Burnett Bolloten, in "The Grand Camouflage" page 41, quotes Diego Abad de Santillan, La revolucion y la guerra en Espana p.176

It is possible our victory resulted in the death by violence of four or five thousand inhabitants of Catalonia who were listed as rightists and were linked to political or ecclesiastical reaction."
First Ronald Fraser sets the scene: Massive violation of libertarian principles. Blood of Spain, page 349

There was no need to dragoon them at pistol point: The coercive climate, in which "fascists" were being shot, was sufficient. "Spontaneous" and "forced" collectives existed, as did willing and unwilling collectivists within them.
Forced collectivization ran counter to libertarian ideals. Anything that was forced could not be libertarian. Obligatory collectivization was justified, in some libertarians eyes, by a reasoning closer to war communism than to libertarian communism: The need to feed the columns at the front. Macario Royo, an Aragoneze CNT leader, believed that collectives were the most appropriate organization for ensuring that a surplus was made available for the front.
He then quotes Macario Royo, speaking in favor of forced collectivization:

If each peasant had kept what he produced and disposed of it as he wished, it would have made the matter of supply much more difficult.
Fraser then paraphrases Macario Royo as saying

And revolution always meant imposing the will of an armed minority "In this case an anarcho syndicalist minority"
He then quotes Macario Royo at length in a footnote.

Revolutions are made by force. Everything that is imposed by force has to be maintained by force. The outcome may be communism but it is not libertarian. If it were, it would not be communist, for the simple reason that the mass of the people are not communist. Libertarian communism could be established only if the majority of the people already supported communism and then started to organize that communism freely.

>>136447900
This. At least make it fucking funny. This is just saying some bullshit.

>>136445181
>i love beeing a cuck
the /thread.

>>136446316
In Spanish Catalonia leftists started to genocie each other read Orwell you little bitch

>>136447891
>not only against priests and landowners, moneylenders and merchants, but in many cases against small tradesmen and farmers."
made me fucking laugh, if you can't understand why that is retarded I'll help u
protip:anarchism

>>136447996

Fuck off, you statist butt-sniffer. Go suck the government's cock.

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>>136448013
Cont.
Burnett Bolloten, in "The Grand Camouflage" sets the context for Juan Peiro's remarks:
Page 70:
Although CNT-FAI publications cited numerous cases of peasant proprietors and tenant farmers who had adhered voluntarily to the collective system there can be no doubt that an incomparably larger number doggedly opposed it or accepted it only under extreme duress.
Page 72:
As a consequence, the fate of the peasant owner and tenant farmer in the communities occupied by the CNT-FAI militia was determined from the outset; for although a meeting of the population was generally held to decide on the establishment of the collective system, the vote was always taken by acclamation, and the presence of armed militiamen never failed to impose respect and fear on all opponents.
Page 74: Burnett Bolloten quotes Juan Peiro, one of the foremost leaders of the CNT, writing in Llibertat, September 29, 1936:
Does anyone believe [...] that through acts of violence an interest in or a desire for socialization can be awakened in the minds of the peasantry? Or perhaps that by terrorizing it in this fashion it can be won over to the revolutionary spirit prevailing in the towns and cities?
The gravity of the mischief that is being done compels me to speak clearly. [...] The first thing they have done has been to take away from the peasant all means of self defense [...] and having achieved this they have robbed him even of his shirt.
[...]
If today you should go to different parts of Catalonia to speak to the peasant of revolution, he will tell you he does not trust you, he will tell you the standard-bearers of the revolution have already passed through the countryside: In order to liberate it? In order to help it liberate itself? No. They have passed through the countryside in order to rob those who throughout the years and throughout the centuries have been robbed by the very persons who have just been defeated by the revolution.

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>>136447505
This guy summed it up quite well and I thank him for it, looks like you are sucking shit again, OP, you got no evidence for "multiple functioning societies" at all.
>>136447873
Ask yourself - whose policy presided in the long run? WHO WON? BASED AS FUCK GENERAL FUCKIN' FRANCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

>>136447557
Not middle class, working class. Didn't fail at school, left school but got a degree in late 20s just coz. Job is... kinda shitty? I like it though and will keep working here for now.
Kind of hits and misses. Not bad for a fucking leaf.

>>136447589
Based af t.b.h, Christ cuck Storm fag.

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>>136448103
You got a degree in dreadlock maintainance and advanced fellatio?

>>136447652
Meme response. Nothing but a baseless meme response. At least git gud at history faggot coz intellectual honesty is clearly beyond you.

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>>136448082
>This is the intelligence of anarchists

Yeah man, you'd definitely make it far in a state of anarchy

>>136448095
franco got ultra cucked by (((USA))), and he couldn't have acomplished anything if it wasn't for the fact that he got help from german aviation and artillery, all he had was a bunch of spics, and the motherfucker brought them to spain to pillage and rape...
christian... this manlet faggot piece of shit

when I grew up it was the left that had the monopoly of humor and the right that couldn't be funny even if they tried.

funny how things work.

in 10 or 15 years from now, the counter culture will be leftist again and it's going to be funny to see all you kids confused about it and not understanding why the values you cherished for so long are being mocked so viciously.

>>136448082
I rest my case. You are an immature adult. You may be 29, but you act like you are 13.

Grow up, adopt a real political ideology

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>>136446316
Cont.
Blood of Spain page 152, Ronald Fraser summarizes the testimony of Maria Ochoa:

There was a festive enthusiasm in the streets [...] At home her father talked more about local politics than the war, not that the latter was forgotten, but local politics seemed more important. He was particularly hostile to the masses of people flocking to join the UGT - "opportunists without any political background" he called them. Soon, however a black cloud appeared over the festival. A workers patrol set up in a house on the corner of the street. It was guarded by two militia women. Each night a car drew up and sounded its horn.
Maria Ochoa says:
We soon discovered what it meant. People were being taken to be shot on the other side of Mount Tibidabo. It was horrifying, oppressive, The car would begin to grind up the hill and we knew the fate of the occupants. My father did not like it. He thought it quite normal that half a dozen big bourgeois exploiters should be liquidated, but not that all these others were being taken to their deaths.
Blood of Spain page 140 Joan Domenech, the most powerful civilian minister in the CNT (in his own opinion) speaking:
I said "You are the employers [...] right now if we felt like it we could load you into a lorry and that would be the end of it" You should have seen their backsides wriggling on the chairs!
The reference to a lorry, similar to Stalin's reference to boxcars, again indicates specialization of labor in the mass production of murder, not spontaneous violent action by small groups. If it was just small group action they would just leave them by the side of the street, the way the semi unofficial death squads in Latin America do.
Blood of Spain page 183 Juan Andrade of the POUM executive committee:
I don't believe that this alone was the major cause of the PSUC's growth. The CNT was the reason. The latter terrorized so many people that in reaction they came to consider the communists as the party of order.

>>136445238

>"Attention do not question your beliefs, stay obedient"

blatant propaganda yo

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>>136447780
shut up snek

>>136448233
Address all of this then you daft cunt, I'm giving you fucking history here, now fucking act on it and give a response.
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>>136446806
Holy shit, you couldn't be more of a fucking faggot if you tried.

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>>136448281
>when I grew up it was the left that had the monopoly of humor and the right that couldn't be funny even if they tried.
you must've grown up in an alternate universe because Nazi humour was always funny

>>136448389
>adress all of this
I lol'd

>>136448233
He BTFO'd you like a little bitch anon, you got nothin'
>>136448276
OK, go on - pour shit on the guy. Make him out to be a total dick or even Satan himself if it makes you feel any bettter. And when you've finished, remember this - HE KICKED CRUSTY ARSES AND YOU FAGGOTS LOST, in spite of his failings. Remember, anon!

>>136447826
Shouldn't you be trying to halt your sliding fertility rate Suzuki-San? It's okay, 5/10 male brit bong English teachers with horrid teeth abd pallid skin will have to do it for you. Because they are clearly your superiors. Your dick is really small.

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>>136448439
I'm just older than you probably. nazi shit has been unfunny until very recently.

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>>136448389
Address it you fucking cunt, you claim that the other anon needed to git gud at history, and that his response was a meme response, well have a fucking gander at what i got for you, you damn autist.

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sorry my lads, TL;DR

>>136448093
>the vote was always taken by acclamation
reminds me of sweden

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They're all terrible. Learn to meme or stay at home buddy boy.

>>136448479
he sucked plenty of Pope dicc, I'll give you that.
>their party collegues still in power
>still sucking pope and (((USA)))dicc
poor litle faggot bastards, all for the shekle

>>136447995
Or you showed up here devoid of any familiarity with the subject. Go read Malatesta's Anarchism. It's very short and was written before both of our parents were born.

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It is now asia hate thread

does a anarchist society have roads?

>>136447891
>>136447967
>>136448013
Not even people who agree with you are gonna read all that shit

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>>136448652
And you lost to him. How gay must you guys be?

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bitcoin hit an all time high....again
soon it will "crash" I just want all of you out there to be ready to get a piece of one

>>136448682
Take the first plane out to Central Africa; you'll appreciate law eventually, when you grow up

>>136448730
So basically, you're a fucking cuck and won't address the fact that Revolutionary Catalonia is a fucking sham and that your entire ideological premises are built on absolute lies?

>>136448031
Did a Swede just call me a cuck? Well shit, I'd better get back in my shed then. Wow, Jon. Wow.

>>136448548
Nazi humour was always funny because it's GUARENTEED to spark outrage, especially when it's about the Holocaust. The funny part about them is the reaction they cause. The left memes that you say are mostly about Bush's administration, but this doesn't mean that they were also pro-communistic.
Also you'll have to be delusional if you think society will somehow turn back to left when shit like the refugee crisis are happening.

>>136448734
>#Killary
yeah fuck that bitch, and you too, christcuck
>him
not him, it was pretty much nazi aviation and artillery that did the job, against pretty much nothing on the republican side, lrn ur facts faget

>>136448037
I have. You haven't.

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>>136445181
Free market ancap memes are still the best.

>>136448730
I did, and he is right
catalonia betrayed so many people that franco easily consolidated against them
maybe next time be an ACTUAL voluntarist, not some retard that believes in surplus "theft"

>>136448844
Clearly, you've read absolutely fucking nothing on the history of Catalonia, I disproved your ideological premise a thousand times over with historical fact, you know nothing, and are but an uneducated twat on the internet spewing your propaganda for a utopian society that is going to fail every time it is attempted.

>>136448204
Your imagination and the strange places it takes you say more about you than anyone else you try to project your faggotry onto.

>>136448682
>go read my leftie book
>hehehe, I win because I know he wont read it

typical lefty cuck, expecting people to read their garbage lefty libraries, but thinks reading some memes is too much effort >>136448618

>>136445334
I mean, you're basically arguing against our Jewish way of living, "100 years ago 97% of Americans were self employed" or whatever.

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>>136445181

>>136448389
>Do what I say anarchist
I like you anon. You got chutzpah. You're a retarded faggot, but ya got alotta spunk

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>>136448816
I'm not Christian. The anarchists could have made as many planes and tanks as they needed in their fantastic utopian society that trumps every other. Again, you are saying: "Baaaaw, the guy who beat me was a baddie". Regardless of any moral failings, his philsophy proved to be the enduring one and your is no more than a footnote in history - a veritable failure.
tl;dr = u lost, fagit

>>136445410
This one is good if you take the national socialist definition of socialism, not marx's, but these are mostly just shitty b8 still

>>136449078
I've got a whole lotta of chutzpah, you can call me retarded, but it seems im the only one educated on Revolutionary Catalonia, you've been browsing /leftypol/ too much and jacking off to still images of Durruti way too much and have blinded yourself to the reality of the fact that Revolutionary Catalonia was a tremendous fucking failure as you are one too.

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>>136448549
You seem upset. This is not a debate because I already won before you even knew it was going to begin. And if it was a debate, you are the one my simple friend who should go and google it, not I. Calm down. Naughty swears like cunt make Thomas Jefferson's ghost cry. There is no need to be upset.

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>>136448956
and then you say:
>>136449078
OK.
All anarchos support islam, pedos, traps and gays, I never met one who didn't

>>136449080
>The anarchists could have made as many planes and tanks as they needed in their fantastic utopian society
wheeeh u sure told me
BASED FUCKING FRANCO
did 0 fucking planes, retard, commies had like 1 plane on madrid and that was it, nigger, pretty much they BTFO'd a republic without an army, commies were like sure, I'll help, take these rifles and give me all your gold, uw ktx bai

>>136449178
Just like any other leftist, you are historically illiterate, what a surprise.

>>136448389
I approve of this based anon's comment. Anarchists were fucking savages

>>136449078
meme responde?

>>136449240
Gracias Hermanon

>>136448785
Revolutionary Catalonia began in the late 1800s and only faced problems when that region of Spain was discovered to have such anti-establishment leanings. The 1936 date kicked off the official beginning of the revolution but most of Catalonia was doing fine with local autonomy for decades. And it will again soon :^)

>>136449357
Two months before the revolution, the CNT voted that collectives should be free each to pursue its own goals, that industry should be collectivized rather than socialized or nationalized, but they expected that people would spontaneously act in a socialist fashion. But the workers did not spontaneously act in a socialist fashion. Instead collectives and individuals acted in a capitalist fashion, each pursuing profit in competition with all the others. This led to highly unsocialist outcomes, outcomes that many in the CNT found unacceptable. Ronald Fraser in Blood of Spain, page 231:

In February 1937, four months after the [collectivization and socialization] decrees approval, a joint CNT-UGT textile union conference agreed that the experience demonstrated that the collectivization of individual plants had been mistaken, and that it was necessary to proceed to the total socialization of industry if ownership of the means of production was not once more to lead to the exploitation of man by man."
On the same page

The woodworkers' union weighed in with its criticism of the state of affairs, alleging that, while small, insolvent workshops were left to struggle as best they could, the collectivization of profitable enterprises was leading to "nothing other than the creation of two classes; the new rich and the eternal poor. We refuse the idea that there should be rich and poor collectives. And that is the real problem of collectivization".

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>>136449210
I see you are beginning to understand how life works in the grownup world and why fairytales (like "anarchy" ) don't exist. War isn't like romantic paintings of buxom peasant women waving flags to muscular dungaree-clad workers, y'know.

>>136448953
>A thousand times over
>13 posts by this ID

>>136447589
SS wojaks are the best wojaks.

>>136449357
>>136449420
Cont.
Ronald Fraser in Blood of Spain, page 231, cites Juan Andrade, of the POUM executive (POUM was anti Stalinist communist, not libertarian socialist)

[...] the collectives were treated as private, not social property [...]
[...] Had it gone on like that, there would have been enormous problems later, with great disparities of wages and new social classes being formed. We also wanted to collectivize but quite differently [from the libertarian socialists], so that the countries resources were administered socially, not as individual property.
In Catalonia, while the libertarian socialists had power, the entertainment industry was socialized, but for some time the collectives were left with substantial real power over their individual theaters, so that in practice this was closer to collectivization than socialization, which meant that at first there was a free market in entertainment -- at first the people went to see what they wanted to see, rather than what their masters decided would be good for them to see. Naturally they wanted to see certain singers and not others. The theater industry democratically and freely voted that everyone would have the same wage: 15 pesetas, long holidays, and lots of benefits. Blood of Spain, page 222:

As a demonstration of the efforts being made, let it be realized that the greatest of opera singers, like Hipolito Lazaro, and the most humble of workers are going to get the same daily wage.
Blood of Spain, page 224 then quotes Hipolito Lazaro as saying to the Tivoli theater collective:

We are all equal now, and to prove it we all get the same wage. Fine, since we are equal, today I am going to collect the tickets at the door, and one of you can come up here and sing.

>>136449357
when your society runs so well that they had to bring in a fascist dictator to stop all the LOVE and NOT DEATH and NOT STEALING

>>136448795
you're not following. I just showed a big chunk of nazi culture history notorious for being unfunny. So, not "always funny"
>Also you'll have to be delusional if you think society will somehow turn back to left when shit like the refugee crisis are happening.
Oh, because I've experienced everything twice, I'm absolutely sure of it. I don't care if you believe me, I guess if someone told me 10 years ago the culture would evolve like it has I'd be equally skeptic.

>>136449288
Holy shit, chinks are feral beasts.

>>136448981
That "leftie book" will just prove I'm not moving the goal posts as you accused me of doing. Anarchism has always been anti-government, not anti-governance ya dumb fucking sperg. But keep being arrogant enough to show up to an argument you know nothing about. It's entertaining to everyone.

>>136445181
>functioning society
>communist
>but it wasn't that
>ad hoc rationalizations
okay anon

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>>136445181
Am I doing it right?

>>136449462
>>136449420
>>136449431
Your society was a fucking sham and had to revert back to capitalist leanings you twit.
"After a spot of haggling, his pay went up to 750 pesetas. Someone else got 500 pesetas, and everyone else got the short end of the stick. So if you have liberty, you will not have equality. He was able to get 750 pesetas because he was free to leave or to refuse to work as directed, same reason as I get rather good pay today."

Any more of those cringy try-hard memes?

>Anarchist Catalonia
>Literally killing each other to impose their flavor of socialism
>CNT going from village to village directing what people should do, with guns in case anyone opposed their vision
>Leaders of CNT accumulating stolen silver
>FAI leaders forcing prostitutes to attend them
>Oppressed, the Catalonian population quickly embraced and cheered Franco's order

Communism, working just like expected since its inception.

>>136449147
Or the anarchist definition of socialism. Or the actual definition of socialism, until Marx kiked it up.

>>136449429
understand what?
franco got help, the republic pretty much didn't, that's all there is to understand

They were ready to take control of the land, and infrastructures, but they where condemned to lose due to not enough help from commie, few voluntaries from yurop to fight with them. Hell they could have had a chance if it wasn't for the artillery and bombings, but with that on the equation... no chance, there where no superpowers supporting them, russia halfassed it, italy and germany went all in... sort of

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>>136448486

Keep trying. Keep losing.

>>136449614
nerve gas

>>136448970
I've always wondered if animals just stop feeling at some point? Or do they just accept the pain?

>>136449468
>(((they)))

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>>136449683
nah, high voltage

>>136449468
only decent pro anarchy OC ITT so far

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>>136449529
What you speak of is mob rule.
Mob rule will mean you scrawny gays with purple hair will be led by your nose-rings to your doom.
>>136449668
Yeah. You lost. End of. That's what I'm saying. Deal with it instead of saying how unfair you feel it was. Your philsophy was weighed in the balance and found wanting.

>>136449543
Who knows? And no one cares. But I certainly rustled your jimmies. I matter to you now in this moment, sadly more than anything will matter to you for the next several days. Accept this, Herr Stormfag. Your life lacks almost any semblance of meaning. But I'm sure the imminent 4th Reich will change that.

>>136449588
They gypsy gets nothing from me. Except maybe a new pair of 6 fingered stealing gloves.

>>136449901
This isn't a rekt thread Ivan

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It's funny because these are lifeless, condescending, and boring, just like liberals in general.

>>136449671
The country so cucked they even nuke themselves.

>>136449906
How would you stop stealing in your utopia? Or is all property theft anyway?

>>136449851
>philsophy
nah, more like military power/allies
yeah, they lost, Franco was still a faggot, don't believe me? just hear his fucking voice. NIgga took Pope dicc like crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_-faiNTVU

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>>136449926
are you trying to make rules in anarchy thread?

>>136445181
despite no agreeing with all anarchist views i give u cred for understanding that gov always devolves to authoritarians
i wish the anarcho-com/col/syn ideoloog well and i know that the ANTIFA fuckeys are DEM controlled op mate no need to bother bout it mate

>>136449737
>"""No one""" knows what you are
Sure anon. I know, reading is hard when it's not Mein Kampf in English because you're too much of an uncultured burger to even learn the language of your syphilitic suicidal tantrum man.

>>136450001
you're being disrespectful. the rules are the same for every thread regardless of ideology.
now fuck off please.

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>>136449588
>being romania

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>>136445181

>>136449995
>"Mummy, bad men hit me. They had sticks. It wasn't fair"
Then learn to fight. Oh, wai-

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>>136449952

Running out of steam, I see. lol

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>>136450074
no

>>136449614
>>136449654
Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

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>>136450001
At least post some gruesome shit and not this watered down chink kids stuff

>>136450039
I don't think you understand how this meme works. Typical lefty.

>>136450074
lel, qq more faggot

>>136449861
1 chinkshit down, another 1,499,9909,999 to go

>>136450104
sick philosophy there, remember to take pope's dicc all day errday, then get cuck'd by the jews

>>136450075
>Canada calling anybody cucks
How's the pride coming,Trudeau?,

>>136449991
Personal property is fine. Private property (more than one can reasonably use themselves on a regular basis) is theft.
I don't believe in utopias.
You can't stop all bad people from doing all bad things.
You really shouldn't be here anon. You're asking entry level questions while simultaneously acting like the cock of the walk who knows better than someone who actually has learned about the topic. Cringy bong faggot. You actually thought that was a gotcha moment instead of showing how little you know about the subject.

>>136445181
I have not seen a single anarquist that is not pro lgbt and pro feminism

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>>136450266
>Private property is theft.

What about your parents basement where live? Who did they steal that from?

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>>136450233
>pretending to be white

>>136449995
General Franco was loved by the Spanish, don't kid yourself. Nobody wants to be a greasy hedge-monkey like yourself, hippy. Mankind was meant to reach for the stars themselves, but you want us us all as a race to grovel in the dust like worms, and that is why your viewpoint is flawed.
>>136450213
He kicked your arse. EBIN XDDD
>>136450266
Go clean your room, faggot, I've read enough utopian literature to know you're fantasizing

>>136445208
Until he was inbetween cnt and commie fire, which were supposed to be allies, then everything changed for him and went to write 1984.

>>136450105
Go live near Fukushima bro, maybe you'll get a dick tumor and Japanese women will sleep with that one nip that's hung with a 5 inch election instead of being bred by ugly drunk gaijin that are 5 or 6/10 at best in the west but treated like demi-gods by your thirsty, long suffering women.

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>>136450360
>sun doesn't have a dindu face
2/10

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>>136450435
kek

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>>136450360

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>>136448970

>>136450266
But you have the avoided the issue of HOW to enforce one's right's to personal property? Mob rule?

>>136450342
>Personal property
>Private property
Still can't tell the difference while responding to a post that explained it. Wew.

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>>136450418

Keep lashing out. Keep crying about how the world is unfair and then die alone but, remember, no one will morn you.

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>>136450074

>RULES
>ANARCHY

Pick one

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>being an anarchist and thinking people don't think You're retarded

>>136450505
god damnit

>>136450417
>1984
About """commies""", but his thoughts on anarchists and actual communists (anti statist ones) are still clear in Homage to Catalonia.

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>>136450498
Wait
Wtf was that?
A giant ball spider?!

>>136450528
Mob rule? No. Local communities organised and run through direct democracy. It's all been talked about and even implemented for over 100 years. Try to catch up.

>>136450535
>personal property
still public property therefore you shouldn't compain if others want to settle in

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>>136450535

Didn't deny he lives in his parent's basement. Look around you and take in your failed life. You had one shot and you achieved nothing.

No one will miss you when you're gone. No one will remember you. You'll be lucky to have a marked grave.

>>136450409
>General Franco was loved by the Spanish, don't kid yourself.
he wasn't, he was loved by all the militarycucks he converted to welfare queens and megacorrupted system controllers
> Mankind was meant to reach for the stars themselves, but you want us us all as a race to grovel in the dust like worms, and that is why your viewpoint is flawed.
I reach or the stars as well and the rest of your argument is pretty much retarded I don't want to blendaup n shit

anyways, that's your last (jew) 4 u

aaaaan franco was a fag with a fag voice peace

>>136450601
Yes, except that book was published a decade before 1984

>>136450547
Die alone? Wew lad. Your parents feed you through a slot in your barricaded bedroom door you reclusive perma-virgin kissless faggot.

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>>136450684
>local communities
While cities fall to street gangs and muslim raids

>>136450565
>What is anarchy?
That is a question you should have asked and answered before posting here friendo.

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>>136450745
And despite all this you ended up losing to him. Admit it. He fucked your shit right up, anon.

>>136450719
No. A home is personal property as it is used frequently by the owner. Catch up snek.

>>136449724
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301008209000574

>>136450729
You haven't denied a lot more than I haven't. You must be moments from sudoku.

>>136450901
ur dum

>>136450897
#cucked by the pope
#cucked by the jews

last (jew), faggot

>>136450750
It was still about state """"communism""". The allegory is clear and uncontroversial.

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>>136450901
personal property is still public property
I'm going to come with my buddies to take your home by force and there's nothing you can do about it

>>136450765
Cities are local communities faggot. Barcelona was fine under anarchism. Millions of people lived and worked for years under anarchism across various nations and cultures.

>>136451022
You have no buddies you weeb faggot.

>>136450818
>What is anarchy
A word edgy teens discover can piss off their parents in most cases
>>136450972
So much win.
>>136450684
That is government.What else is BS?

>>136451104
>Dragon Ball
>weeb
stupid anarcuck

>>136451046
>City states worked out really well for Italy after the fall of Rome
sure, faggot

>>136450901
So can I kill a nigger on my property?

>>136451119
No, it's a word you still evidently haven't even looked up in the dictionary.
It's *local* governance with no permanently fixed political system or political figures. You can't form government without politicians and political parties.

>>136451164
Snek is sensitive about his based mainstream Chinese cartoon which can't possibly make him a weeb. Denial is not just a river in Egypt my scaled cuck friend.

>>136451229
You're still asking silly questions. Is it trying to kill you or your family? Yes. Because of it's skin colour? People are gonna take notice and you'll probably end up buried next to him/her for being a sociopathic hindrance to the peaceful lives of your neighbours.

>>136451250
Like I said: Mob rule, right? Who will prevent mob rule?

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>>136450946

I'm not the one throwing insults. I'm simply saying what is true.

To the world, you are already dead. You are completely irrelevant to anything meaningful going on. You should make material reality match what everyone already thinks of you.

>>136451309
>outting yourself as a newfag so you damage control hard to prove you aren't one

>>136451104
>>136451309
You never replied to his ideas, just attacked his character. Every anarchist state will devolve into mob-rule where might makes right or will evolve back into capitalist cooperation. Give me one example that has done neither.

>>136451407
I can't decide how you define mob rule. People gather together in an orderly fashion to temporarily discuss and decide on issues and policies that affect them directly. If you and a bunch of friends can discuss what pizzas you're going to order for a party, that should make you less stupefied as to how millions of people have successfully enacted direct democracy.

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>>136448970
Well shit

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>>136451385
I'd perhaps lieka clearer definiton of what you term "anarchy "but you are currently clutching at staws to justify your mental gymnastics.
Lack of government leads to chimpouts. Your idealism wouldn't prevent this if "anarchy" were to be implemented