Stop being reliant on grocery stores.

>>136421816
Nah. Division of labor is a good thing. If we all went back to subsistence hunting you wouldn't have an internet to shitpost on.

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>>136421816
If your gun boner is getting limp, move up to an arrow boner.

>>136421816
Yeah ok katniss.

Hunger-Game hype ended like 7-8 years ago faggit.

>>136421914
It's obvious that modern society is cucked almost to death. It would be more than worthwhile to learn to grow crops and hunt while staying off the grid. Ultimately, you still get more time to yourself than the cucks do since you don't have any other work-related activity. You can also get running water, heating, cooling and electricity pretty easily without relying on a government, which means you have virtually no expenses. This means you can shitpost on 4chan much more than wagecucks, provided you figure out a way to get internet access, while also having access to significantly cleaner food, working less, not being inconvenienced by apes and bombs, responding only to yourself, and more.
You still benefit from division of labor since it's not like you plan to build everything from scratch, you just divide the labor differently.

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>>136422303
Stop being a newfag.

>>136421816
Ok fag what's your bow season or literally kill yourself for being a LARPing faggot

>>136422549
Long bows have a 200 yard range.

Have fun working in your fields without any type of security force.

t. feudal master race.

>>136421816
Hunting for food is a huge waste of time and money. On top of that, game animal populations will hit extinction levels soon after shit hits the fan.

Store food and supplies, and learn to grow food.

>>136422787
Nobody can fuck your field up when there's nobody to fuck your field up.
As for long bows, you're exactly right, which is why guns should be preferred most of the time. However it depends on considerations like geography, flora and available game. A bow can sometimes help sustainability in an area. In any case, it's quite a fun experience especially if you're only accustomed to gun hunting.

>>136422836
Ancaps have to hunt though, because any animals they keep in yards are stolen by people stronger than them.

>Their Utopian society only works if everyone in the word is benevolent.

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>>136422549
With the political climate, the fighting between the left and the right, automation putting millions out of jobs soon, and a 12% chance of being hit with a CME from the sun. A shit hitting the fan scenario is more likely than ever and learning basic outdoor skills like living, scavenging and hunting will be more crucial than ever.

>>136422598
All year.

>>136422787
GB2/reddit.

>>136422836
>Hunting for food is a huge waste of time and money.

Not if it keeps you 6 feet above ground.

>On top of that, game animal populations will hit extinction levels soon after shit hits the fan.
Not many people know how to hunt or smoke meat. It really depends where you live.

>Store food and supplies, and learn to grow food.
This is useful, but you won't have enough arable soil to feed yourself alone off vegetables, let alone a family. Especially during the winter.

>>136423353
>reddit.

I hope the irony of your post isn't lost.
(hint: Reddit spacing)

>>136423505
Hello redd!t.

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>>136423505
>You don't even know what that means around here. Lurk more.

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Half of you pussies have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. 3/4 of you can't even pull back this bow at 65lbs. If you don't hunt you're a fucking pussy and you should sit down to take a piss.

>>136424034
Youre green texting wrong.

also, you're late for school.

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>bow hunting meme

Snares and traps are way easier.

Unless you want a rotting deer, using a bow sucks for pretty much everything. Not to mention you won't have use for all the meat it'll give. Also takes forever to kill something with a bow and arrow

>just store it

Arent you living off the grid? Even then a single deer kill has fed me for weeks... gets stale and boring real quick.

>you can feed human populations in the billions without mass produced food
>there is enough wild game to support human civilization

Stop LARPlaying Anon.

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>>136424482
>Also takes forever to kill something with a bow and arrow

Heres some big game videos with a compound bow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFS1alAVceY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrWYuh_s1RQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF6YCEl1Y70

About 10 seconds or less if you peirce the heart or lungs, the same thing you should be doing as a responsible hunter with a gun anyways.

>Not to mention you won't have use for all the meat it'll give.
You smoke meat during the summer for the winter, else you have to go out in freezing or snowing conditions lest you starve to death. Not being able to hunt in the north during winter is a death sentence.

>>136424734
>The entire human population will be hunting animals and not starving in the streets

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>>136421816
I save a pinch of money by feeding my 4 puppers tasty pigeon soup a few times a month
>inb4 airshit

>>136421816
And now I'm reliant on other stores to provide the necessary tools for hunting that I otherwise wouldn't need. I'd also have to move from where I live, abandon my job, and spend most of the day hunting.

All because I don't want to go to a grocery store.

>>136425172
camping the feeders huh?

Don't learn to use something you can't make yourself.

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>>136425553
You can build a bow for 20 dollars using household items. You probably wont kill anything more than a squirrel or a pigeon with it though. If you are truly that far away from nature and are wholly dependant on the city functioning for you to live, then you have other things to worry about.

>>136424449
this guy knows whats up

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>>136421816
Okay, yeah, sure, so I won't go to the grocery store, so what does that leave? The neighbor's dog, the neighbors cat, the neighbor, not too many choices here in San Diego. Okay there's birds. About two-hundred sparrows will make up one satisfying meal after I get them all de-boned, feathered, and cooked. Will take me probably the next two days. So now I need a shitload of arrows and clear fire paths.
Trust me, much easier to open a can of soup.

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>>136421816
Okay. I will.

>>136421816
>modern life has no rite of passage or way to derive masculine self image
>violent sports or hobbies justified as practical but really just another way to build up fragile manly identity
>be too fat and awkward to even do that
>settle for shitposting and larping on /pol/
yeah i bet you kill all you meat with weapons made with tools made of iron you mined yourself with a sharp stick you found you galloping faggot

>>136424449
Nah dude shit is fuckin gay. My dad spends like $500 per turkey in bow hunting bullshit. You can get a turkey for like $20.

Plus in SHTF I'm not bow hunting when I have a rifle/shotgun. Seasons won't exist nigga u dumb as shit. Bet you'll stop fishing at your limit too you fucking cuck.

>>136428873
Good

>>136428711
Just two more days of preparing until I get to eat my Sparrow McNuggets

>>136424449
>calls others pussies while he uses a faggy compound bow with a load of worthless accessories
learn how to make and shoot your own recurve or go home faggot

>>136421816
>Implying I dont know to bow hunt.

Have more faith in us, brother.

>>136421816
Bow https://youtu.be/3WJdNxHLnZQ
Draw String https://youtu.be/tGGbx1YeWz0
Arrowhead https://youtu.be/8eT-eAm1txk
Arrow https://youtu.be/CUxcnn6ZdZI
Dinner https://youtu.be/iQ6NXmINlk8

>>136429284
>My dad spends like $500 per turkey in bow hunting bullshit.
Your dad is a consumer and is probably a boomer as well. He will be taken on the day of the rope.

>>136421816
Bow hunting's cool but /out/ is hunting with big war clubs.

>be 300 lbs yank with a bow hunting with my buddy
>scout 200 yards (pussy gay euro meters) innawoods for THICC tree
>go back out to oversized F350 truck, drink gallon coke cause thirsty
>reverse truck up to tree
>put burger bait on ground for deer, fucking does love a 1/4 pounder MacieD's
>attach treestand to tree with portable crane on the back of truck
>get buddy to hoist me up onto treestand with bow
>applaud when I get up there
>sit and wait for three hours
>shoot deer at a range of 15 yards
>shoot deer again with .50 revolver cause MUH FREEDOM
>applaud

>>136429498
Day 3: No sparrows left in neighborhood, all the children hate me for killing all the birds. wife won't talk, says sparrow mcnuggets taste like crap. what do?

>>136421816
You're all faggots if you don't hunt with an atlatl like a real man does.

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>>136430766

>>136421816
My wife just bought me a crossbow for my birthday

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>not just using a rifle

just fuck your shit up family

have fun starving while I'm taking all your game you cucks

>>136430914
this.

Just use a shotgun or a rifle.

>>136430827

nah bows better

>>136421816
Stop being reliant on bowyers, learn how to make your own bow and arrows.

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>not cheating
lol

>>136424449
>Half of you pussies have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. 3/4 of you can't even pull back this bow at 65lbs. If you don't hunt you're a fucking pussy and you should sit down to take a piss.

Bragging about a shitty girly compound bow with 80% let-off. Enjoy starving when you break your last arrow cant cant make another out of a stick lulz.

This little asian girl shits on your Hoyt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n8B79bOJUc

>>136422787
Firstly, long bows have a range of about 300++m.

Secondly, you can't hit shit at that range. Long bows were used in medieval times because a shitload of idiots line up and fire them together so it rains arrows. Good luck getting 500 arrows off within 1 sec while dodging faster and more accurate bullets.

Stupid cunt.

>>136421816

Civilized man is dependent on agriculture.

Hunting is fine but most of the civilized man's hunting takes the form of commercial fishing or pest extermination.

Civilized people are better hunters than true hunter-gathers because of their advanced tech and because civilized ancestors had to mass kill animals that threatened crops and livestock.

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>>136430666
Is there anything more patrician than hunting with a bow?

>Be in tune with your environment and ancestors
>Intimate knowledge of your weaponry and ability to customize it
>Requires you to be physically fit and has a high personal skill ceiling
>Responsible, Honorable wardens of the woods
>Strong sense of community with other bow hunters
>Respect for your tag and nature around you
>Regaled as an upstanding member of society rather than a redneck with a shotgun

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>>136431021
Rifle's better than a bow too, but doesn't mean you're any less of a faggot if you don't kill your meat armed with nothing more a stealthy pounce, a chipped flint stone hand dagger, and a strong grip.

>>136431494

hunting on a horse with a pack of hunting dogs with a spear, gun, or bow.

falcon hunting... that, too.

>>136431588

not killing the falcon... using the falcon to kill shit.

Falconry and shiet.

>>136430739
Day 4: kids want pizza. I say 'shut up and eat your sparrow.'
neighbor shot and ate my dog, now I will hunt his cat. this is leading to chaos. like hell neighbor will get his weed-whacker back I borrowed.

>>136421816
As a rifle hunter, bow hunting is the final red pill. If civilization collapses a gun will last you a few years until you run out of ammo.

Arrows are reusable and last virtually forever.

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>>136430914
>>136430970
Should SHTF the gubmint will come for your guns. But not your bows. I hope you are a gunsmith and can forge your own ammo, because warbands will hoard that shit making it super scarce. If your gun needs repairs or stops functioning from lack of cleaning then you are fucked.

You can always:
Make a new bow
Fix an old bow
Fletch your own arrows

Not to mention your bow string can be used as a snare while sleeping, or as a firebow to create fires.

>>136421816
I live in a country where I can go buy meat. Fuck sitting outside hopping to see something then shooting it, gutting it, processing it. I'll happily pay 12$ for a weeks worth of meat.

>>136421816
No...Learn how to hunt...period...
Learn how to shoot, to break down and clean your rifle, without even thinking about it...
Learn how to gut and dress your kill...
Get some carpentry skills to build a shelter...
Get some automotive skills so you can do repairs yourself and stay mobile...
Get some land...with trees...winters coming, and it'll get cold...you need wood for heat...
Get some advanced level first aid...when shtf, hospitals will be the last place you want to be...
Keep things simple...don't ever overthink shit...stay calm, think it through, make your choice...life is not a giant exam...

>>136421816
Jesus reading through these comments I realize very few on /pol/ have even basic hunting knowledge. A bunch of larpers with toys.

>>136429284
$500 dollars to kill a fucking bird!

HAHAHAHAHA, what a wasteful cunt.
I can walk ten minutes into the bush right now and kill a Guineafowl for free.

Who in their right mind would pay $500 dollars to kill a bird? What is the point?

>>136431953
>t. i play the long dark

>>136431179
You could probably hit something at 300meters with a compound bow. It wouldn't be ethical though.

>>136431652
Day 5: have idea. will go to the closest place with animals: the San Diego Zoo. will bring big empty ice chest. will bring it home full of dead animals. will start at Penguin Encounter, work my way to Monkey Exhibit. should feed family for a week.
note to self: buy another 300 arrows at Big 5 on way home from work Monday.

>>136430739
>>136431652
Keep going,this is more entertaining than the rest of the thread.

>>136431494
Its also very fun to practice unlike a gun.
Shooting at the range gets boring but I can shoot my bow for hours at a time.

Sure thing mate. I'll be living large off of the sewer rats i snipe in the nyc subway. Idiot

>>136421816
Just as soon as you tell me how, where, and what to bow hunt in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...

>just gonna go right ahead and LARP my ancestors and DRIVE 4 HOURS outside the city and bow hunt a bunch of shit animals I cant even eat....

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>>136431567

Listen to this fag thinking he is hot shit.

>No items
>fox only
>final destination

>>136432098
I have absolutely no fucking idea what you mean...
I am a former CAF reserve soldier, I am a carpenter, I do all my own work on my trucks, I have fucking stacks of firewood ready, should I need it...and I was CSPS...Canadian Ski Patrol, so along with Army field first aid, I'm good with sucking chest wounds and live birth...
What have you done today?

>>136432640
nice pasta

>>136425866
>camping the feeders huh?
WTF does that even mean?

>>136432402

Coyotes are probably good eating.

>>136421816
But I live in Vancouver, only thing to bow hunt here is Asians and I'd just be hungry again in an hour.

>>136432402
Hunt non-whites

>>136432402
>what to bow hunt in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
Mountain Lions or cougars. Mexicans and Niggers.

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>>136421816
I find bow hunting to be a tedious endeavour and more of a "sport" than rifle hunting. When I take my rifle out of the safe something will die, and I will eat it. My rifle hunting successes are measured by how much meat I bring home, my bow hunting successes are measured by how close I can get to my prey, Im not too good with a bow

>>136421816
FYI: Blackpowder is super easy and super cheap to make. A bit dangerous though. You need a tumbler, a cheap harbor freight gem tumbler works fine. Lead balls. DO NOT USE STEEL OR AN FERRIC METAL. No spark metal is a must. Lead works fine.
Charcoal. Willow is best. Oak and ash are good as well. Home made charcoal, not sore bought.
Sulfur which can be bought in bulk for cheap and saltpeter. Which can also be bought in bulk. If you chop your own wood and make your own charcoal you can make black powder for under 3 bucks a lb. Its over 20 bucks a lb in the store.

>>136431652
Day 5: year passes to San DiegoZoo taken away, escorted from park by security. fucking penguins dodged my arrows and started making honking noises. wife very angry. my life sucks out loud.

>>136431136
I wonder how it acts. I imagine its dangerous for the owner. It may love and care for its owner but on a bad day or just playing it could kill him.

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>>136431953
Words to live by brother

>>136432098
Might as well put world of warcraft on your resume and explain to your employer how video games translate into real world skills and creations.

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>>136432549
You're a faggot if you don't scream intimidatingly in the face of a bear and ravenously sink your teeth into its face while crushing its skull between the raw power of your hands through your arm and upper body strength. Anything less is for pantywastes.

>>136432402
>lives in a desert
>expects to survive when the farms stop producing food for the cities and all trade stops

>>136421914
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html
Wrong. According to studies even the lowliest of plebs worked less than 50% of the year (and less than 9 hours a day) back during medieval times. Even in hunter gatherer societies there's a reason why meat jerky was invented (so that you could preserve an animal for weeks and even months after you kill it)

And if you aren't mentally retarded and have this thing called object permanence (the ability to understand that things are there even when you don't see them) it makes sense. You might think you are saving time when somebody makes your hamburger for you but ultimately that hamburger needs to be made. It needs to be marketed so you are aware of it. etc. Having 5 different sets of dishes, 10 different shirts to choose from, some shitty (((Hollywood))) movie to watch etc, all creates demand for additional labour. While we certainly possess technology now to make our work faster all we've done with that technology is increased everybodies workload.

Materialism is garbage. And even if you don't into materialism you still need a job since it's illegal to try and live off the grid and off the land. You are a slave to somebody else's materialism.

Materialists all deserve to die.

>>136432402
>and what to bow hunt in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA...

raccoons and possums

You can train far faster to be proficient with a rifle, bow hunting is impractical

>>136433697
Yeah but in a SHTF scenario, if I'm run out of my home, and I run out of ammunition I can't make ammunition for my rifle with my bear hands. Whereas theoretically with some sticks, bird feathers and sharp rocks (and cordage to put it all together, which can be made out of grass if you're really in a pinch) you can make more ammo for any bow. Sure it won't be as good as modern commercial ammo, but it's better than running around trying to club things with an empty rifle.

>>136433119
Anyone can pick up a gun, point, and shoot with some degree of accuracy. Bows require tact, discipline, and if you want to hunt you need to know everything about your prey, be more than cautious and learn how to stalk and track.

>>136433980
I reckon I would kill more small game with a self made spear and club than I would with a self made bow and arrows

>>136433658
Police in the US will shoot all the coons before you can get to them.

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>>136434513
yeah I dont really practice with my bow like I should. I know my game animals well, no seasons or bag limits in NZ, hunt most weekends. When it comes to food Im happy to smoke a deer at 150m with my rifle, the bow is more about sneaking around and outsmarting the animals in their own habitat.

>>136421816
Enjoy your pathogens

>>136434519
I mean in the sense that you could still make shitty makeshift arrows and pop them out of a modern compound bow.
I think SHTF wise one should have both a raifu and a decent bow.

>>136423045
Remember the Revenant? If they had taken that elk without firearms, the Arikara would not have gotten them. If you hear a shot, you know there is a gun, maybe bullets, and certainly meat.

>>136421816
>eating wild animals

Enjoy dying from a bloody diarrhea dumb faggot.

>>136434834
Nice man, I need to get into hunting.
This is a skill I haven't picked up yet.

These skills are so much more valuable than any degree could ever give me.

>>136435403
You don't eat it as it's dying anon you have to cook it with fire.

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>>136434834
I understand man and honestly most of those situations I listed >>136423353 NZ should be exempt from, save for the CME. I should correct myself though. Its a 12% chance in the next 10 years (estimated). So really not much to worry about.

>>136421816

Wild game kinda sucks.

>>136432640
>Fire EMT in rural setting
>masters in Emergency management
>extensive experienced in rope rescue, high & low angle rescue, isolated as fuck wildland fire, large low water structure fires
>moose, elk, deer, antelope, etc. None escape my mosin
>military: 10 years in explosives (all aspects from logistics to EOD
>plus four years in emergency management communications truck tech from DHS

Get wrecked snow bunny syrup nigger

>>136435455
Even if you cook it most of that meat still has tonshit of wired bacteria. Lurk about how many people died from eating wild animals.

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>>136435206
modern suppressors are really amazing, I bombed up a mob of goats and my mate ~100m away and slightly behind a rise didn't hear shit.
>>136435403
top kek
>>136435434
get into it anon, look for a local hunting forum and start asking questions, its great fun, I'd like to hunt Elk in Montana one day
>>136435557
wrong

>>136435802

Maybe it's just because all the animals around here eat too much garbage.

>>136435729
They probably fell for the medium rare meem

>>136435729
There are wild animals that are safe to eat. There are wild animals that are not safe to eat.

There are wild berries that are safe to eat. There are wild berries that are not safe to eat.

There are wild animals that are diseased and you should not eat.
There are wild plants that are diseased and you should not eat.

>>136436063
I always do a TB check on animals I kill, and just look through the gut bag just to make sure there are no funny bumps or lumps. No wanton waste laws so If i do feel its suspect Ill leave it. only happened maybe 2-3 times in my life.
>>136435729
Ive never been sick from game. I'm making meatballs from Tahr and Chamois off-cuts right now for tea

>>136436063
Wild boars and most birds are not safe to eat. Not sure about the moose but wouldn't risk it.

>>136435637
How is the mosin for innawoods

Meme gun with no more dirt cheap ammo, but the off chance I carry on the spirit of a proud war weapon, with legendary accuracy and lifespan, is tempting

>civilization crashes
>agricultural infrastructure collapses
>35,000 people from your town now all decide to start fishing and hunting at the same time
good luck with your bow hunting, retard. a smart person would learn to raise chickens, sheep, goats, and cattle.

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>>136436630

>>136421816
nah man, you cant hunt fruit gushers

>>136436842
Well I'm telling you there were multiple cases when people died from eating that meat. You can't always be sure it's safe.

>>136436630
Depends on your area and what you are hunting. Some regions white tails carry parasites so its something to watch out for when dressing them. Some people live near areas where companies dump waste into the water, and there are all sorts of animals running around with mutations. It should go without saying that you shouldn't eat those. Part of being a hunter is doing your due diligence and knowing whats safe and what isn't, learning the lay of the land and what to watch out for.

>>136436630
Moose is totally safe. Moose also has a gamy taste and isn't for everyone. Best to sample someone elses kill if you are unsure as you wont waste an animal if you don't like it.

>>136436842
>tfw no boar to go hunting with to carry all your gear

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>>136436992
almost everyone I know eats wild pigs, not one sick so far. All good m8, more for me I guess

>>136436992
There were anons in another hunting thread a couple of weeks back saying the boars in the US were pests and it was legal to hunt to destroy them. Their meat taste awful unless they are young, and the only way you could really die from eating meat is if its tainted or not properly cooked. The boars NZ bro is posting are likely very different than the ones in the US (assuming thats where you are from).

You shouldn't try making a steak out of game unless you REALLY know what you are doing.

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>>136437402
kiwi pigs are also a huge pest, and as long as you aren't a drop kick fuck wit and your dogs are stock proof its not hard to find private land for slaying pigs. the bush pigs taste nice, like a rich gamey pork, but some are a bit suss, but go alright minced into sausages with domestic pork fat and heaps of herbs and spices.

>>136421816
I can't learn something my country says should be illegal. I live in a state kindergarten..

>compound
weak ass faggot