Really Makes you Think....

>>136413533
>what is Venezuela

Alright, let's hear your excuse on why that wasn't "real socialism".

>>136414223
But it wasnt!

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>>136413533
But the capitalist doesn't get the machines by selling products. He gets the machines through investing capital and putting it at risk. Thanks to this the worker has work to begin with.

>>136416212
lol great response.

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>>136416573
Oh fuck...

>>136414223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_JhRVlIR-c

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>>136416573
The "workers" are dumb as shit, by and large, and cannot effectively manage anything, hence the need for "overseers" like "the boss/CEO" or in your commie utopia, "the party/leader" who unlike "the boss" rules with an iron fist and makes you fucking disappear into a hole in the ground(see: Cambodia) sometimes for merely having too much intelligence and thus posing a threat to "the party".

There's a good reason you're a "worker" and you see your entire life as piddling around in a factory for a wage until you retire. The very concept of bettering your own life is too much for you to grasp, hence why you need or feel the need for a boss or authority to begin with.

>>136416573
Golly gee its almost like the 75 dollars per product that goes for the making and maintaining of his factories and products also goes to the workers who build it, and in part have to spend most of the money they make on buying and maintaining tools for their job. And it's almost like the people who make those tools, after paying their workers, also spend money to maintain their workers' equipment so they can keep building tools and making money. And so on and so forth.
It's almost like capitalism benefits everybody.

>>136416573
If you don't think owners and executives do anything then you are right fucking retarded. Even in extreme examples like Walmart where the employers make tens of millions, if you redistributed the wealth entirely, then you'd have your average worker only make a few hundred more a year. Except now your engineers, designers, marketing teams, and the executives managing assets, image, personnel, and operations would be making a few thousand a year for 80 hour work weeks AND the owners would still own massive risk.

If you really want to have an equal slice, then you should take on the risk too. For a Mc Donalds worker, this would translate to making a few dollars per hour more at the price of carrying a $400,000 debt if the franchise fails.

Consolidating and minimizing risk is a major piece of economics and one socialists aren't terribly familiar with it seems.

>>136417183
"What do you mean we can't ban brown people?"

That's my category apparently.

>>136417192
>It's almost like capitalism benefits everybody.
But it benefits smarter people MORE and I'm a greedy fuck and I want MORE without working for it and my tenured and well-compensated college professors all told me to hate CEOs n shit.

Don't care about actors, musicians, and other artists who make far more money than I ever will. Only CEOs and other business positions are evil. THERE. VIVA LA.... um... YEAH.

>>136417183
please say that at my University. They dont seem to understand any of it.

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>>136419881
ftfy

>>136417192
>It's almost like capitalism benefits everybody.
Not in the third world

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>>136416573

>>136413533

Workers can create products and sell it anytime.. if they had a capital that is

>>136413533

>> Hurr Durr - I do the work so that means I know how to run the business that makes the product.

>>136416573
yeah and then all the workers starve
but at least we're not oppressed!

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>>136413533
>What_is_stock_ownership.comic

>>136416573

>that response
>it literally amounts to owning the means of production

everyones complaining about wages but they wont even give me a job