/pol/ /pol/ - Communism General

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>>136410393
Only good commie is a dead commie.

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>>136410481
FPBP

>>136410393
Reporting in comrade

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>>136410481
Try your best shot, cowboy

>>136410783
communism does nothing but hurt the people they claim to protect even a stupid as fuck kid like you knows that. but all that teenage angst and edge pulls you towards it because you dont want to work for your bread. you want it handed to you so you can spend your time fucking around on 4chan and tumblr and twitter goodthink groups saying how oppressed your sexuality and made the fuck up gender is while my people get fucked over again and again by faggots like you claiming to want "true equality" fuck you and your lying sack of shit political ideology

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>>136410783

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>>136411085
>and twitter goodthink groups saying how oppressed your sexuality
Fuck off that degeneracy is a product of Western Capitalism.

Sexuality in Communism is don't ask don't tell. You are thinking about liberals not Communists.

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Death to communism.

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>>136411417
i'm hungry

Allah hates communists.

>>136411417
no I'm thinking of communists. liberals ACTUAL liberals give a shit about freedom of speech and fair treatment.

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>>136411102
Yo that's so funny, even when your a national socialist dawg. Haha

>>136411554
Jesus hates communist too

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage 4
Nod real gommunism. Nexzt gountry :DD

>>136412098
just like a fucking communist to pull away from a argument he is losing, how about you kil off all your leadership again and start over? im sure it will work this time.

>>136410393
I challenge any commies to refute these:

>the LTV
The LTV is one of the cornerstones of Marxist economic thought, upon which rests the claim that porky will continually steal more and more wages from the working class, and communist revolution is "inevitable". One requirement for the LTV to be true is that machines can't produce more than they cost--silly, right!?!? Marx justifies this by saying that machines and physical capital depreciate in value equal to the amount of value they produce--all the rest of the surplus value is added by the human working the machine. This is ridiculous and trivially falsified: suppose that two machines produce totally different things, but require exactly the same input from the worker, but produce two things whose values are very different--say, for example, one that makes pencils, and one that rolls cigarettes (suppose that their rate of production is 2 cigarettes per pencil). Now, one of these machine+human teams adds more value than the other, but somehow we are to believe that the difference in surplus value is because of the human working the machine, according to Marx, not the machines themselves.

>post scarcity
Communism, the "ideal" society, is a post-scarcity society, which is why everyone can seemingly work as little as they want and get as much free shit as they "need", according to commies. Unfortunately, post-scarcity is a priori impossible because there are a finite amount of resources and humans will always compete for them.

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>>136412098
You are a nigger, either a house or a field nigger, and when master tells you "Communism is against niggers, I'm the only one who can look out for y'all niggers" you are like "Yes master, me be a good nigger"

Go fuck yourself faggot.

>>136412374
>From each according to the government, to each according to the government
Communists tout that their ideal system is highly democratic, and indeed, the commie system of production (if it were possible--see ">post scarcity") would be essentially a democracy, one person one vote, with perhaps some elected representatives with more power. This of course is a perfect "tragedy of the commons" scenario--nobody has any personal responsibility for their vote, and everybody wants MORE. It is hard to imagine a situation like this ending any other way than what's happening in Italy, Greece, Portugal, and Spain, who perhaps have the most democratically-controlled economies on earth.

>>136412358
>how about you kil off all your leadership again and start over?
I'll kill off the house niggers who suck masters cock first. Then I'll kill the master.

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>>136412384
>says the one advocating the ultimate cuck SJW egalitarianism

>>136412498
>I'll kill off the house niggers who suck masters cock first. Then I'll kill the master.
I'm ure you will, tought guy.

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>>136412498
>first says he doesnt care about what a nigger thinks
>calls him a house nigger for disagreeing with him

fucking pick one you pinko faggot. thats the exact point i made before, your whole ideology is built on fucking lies and backstabbing. and here you are contradicting yourself when you are on the backpedal

>>136412498
>KILL! KILL! KILL!
>LE EBUL PORKY! I'M A HATEMONGER BUT I'VE DONE THE MENTAL ACROBATICS TO MAKE MY MURDEROUS HATRED SEEM JUSTIFIED AND RIGHTEOUS!

Man, you guys are like books.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbA9ALOrHaA

>>136412555
From each according to ability to each according to need.

I'm talking about controlling the means of production not faggots and their feels.

>a fucking cartoon pig
And you faggots expect anyone to take your retarded political ideology seriously

>>136412731
>I'm talking about controlling the means of production
how about you produce something instead of just stealing from people who do that?

>>136412648
I don't give a fuck about what a house nigger thinks. I'll delete the first post because my problem is with house niggers and my first post doesn't clearly indicate that.

Also you are a house nigger.
>>136412716
And you keep coming to our threads. At least change your flag every once in a while.

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>>136412731
>faggots and their feels
>implying commies aren't just a bunch of jealous greedy insecure faggots who justify their feels by believing in communism

>>136412908
im not a fucking house nigger, if i was id agree with you "massa" without question. Odd to find a nigger that can think for himself huh? really throws a fucking wrench in your special ideology

ITT usefull idiots of jews vs useless niggers of jews

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>>136412908
>I dont give a fuck
then why you reply to him? that is opposite of what anybody mentally healthy would do

>>136413022
kikes are just white people with more greed, all i want is for blacks to have their own nations and for whites to have their own without meddling in each others business. the world would work a whole lot better if we all stuck to our own

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>>136412908
>And you keep coming to our threads.
Aw, does shitposting pinko want a safe space?

>At least change your flag every once in a while.
You first.

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>>136412908
>im not trying to debate
>im here to meme
lmao good work for the worker's revolution comrade.

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>>136412872
How about you build economy based on something else than exporting cheap labor to the rest of the EU
>>136412917
look at picture

>>136413172
>How about you build economy based on something else than exporting cheap labor to the rest of the EU
as compared to communism where its cheap labor of its own people. so cheap in fact they starve. nice argument

>>136413172
>LOOK AT THESE TWO CHERRY PICKED ARTICLES
>THEY REFUTE YOUR HARD POINTS

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>>136413172
>people's nostalgic opinions prove western imperialist pig "data" wrong!
look at picture

>>136413014
>if i was id agree with you "massa" without question.
I ain't your "massa", I'm telling you we should be equal, but we can't be because you will die to protect the master I want to hang.
>>136413152
U wot m8?

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>>136413172
how about you build any economy based on not stealing from sattelite states?

>>136413354
so im only a good nigger if i do what you want. Sounds a lot like a fucking slave owner to me

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>>136413354
I'm a capitalist. Eat shit, we're richer than you, faster than you, and more important than you

>>136413497
and most importantly, not retarded satanists brainwashed by jews

>>136413439
>so im only a good nigger if i do what you want
No you are only a good nigger if you do what "massa" wants.

You can do whatever the fuck you want to, but you've been arguing for your "massa" the whole time and that's why I'll keep calling you a house nigger.

>>136413681
>You can do whatever the fuck you want to
Does that mean he can own means of production?

>>136413681
who the fuck is my master that you keep referring to? a functional form of government where the one in charge looks after his own people? because that's what i want and thats what i support. the problem with that is, your ideology is completely against ANY views or governments that don't match your own. so in effect that makes you "superior" to others.

Do you feel like you need to save niggers? do you think we cant do it on our own? what a hypocrite

>>136413439
You could be this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dbfXp8_qjo
And I wouldn't call you a house nigger, I'd call you crazy.

>>136413921
>who the fuck is my master that you keep referring to?
The guy who told you communism makes you starve.

>>136413923
I agree with the man in that video. in fact I am a National Socialist. Just not a white one, maybe you need to do research on what national socialism is and was, hell while youre at it, do research on your own ideology and its history. name a country that was communist that wasnt poor as fuck, having people starve to death, oppressed anyone who thought different, and interfered with other nations it had no right messing with.

go on I'll fucking wait for you.

>>136414003
His master is truth and reality?

>>136414003
so me?

>>136410393
Communism sucks.

Discussion complete

Communism is an ideology for children who can't accept the reality of the world.

The resources of the earth aren't distributed according to what is moral; they are distributed according to who has the power to take them.
You need to invoke an all powerful, all knowing deity to subvert this inviolable rule of nature.

>>136414221
funny that the only way it can work is with religion, which they historically outlaw.

>>136414299
They make the state their deity and worship it as a god.

>>136414398
because that fucking works. congrats on controlling the people you "free" with literal brainwashing

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>>136414003
I better be getting a real thought out and long response since you haven't listed a single one yet.

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>>136414501
>enslaving people with pro-state propaganda so that they accept their inevitable starvation death is somehow better than telling people to be free and make their own decisions, which is also somehow brainwashing.

The level of ridiculous mental gymnastics you reddit fags try is insane.

>>136414175
Ok then I'll call you crazy from now on, all though you do harbor house nigger beliefs.

You didn't get the idea that Communism starves everyone on your own, Communism is about sharing with the hungry not making them starve.

You think everyone is a piece of shit who will only work because he hopes to exploit others. That's what "massa" wants you to believe.

Communism created unprecedented industrial growth and put the first man in space. Because people can cooperate for the greater good even when not expecting to be as rich as Kayne West.
>>136414299
You really think society works better with a sky god threatening weak people with eternal suffering than people doing their best based on a logical understanding of cooperation and human development?

>>136414942
prostate isnt the same as worshiping a leader as a god. And ive never heard of a national socialist government starving its people until its been destroyed by outside invaders. Commies on the other hand do it on the daily like its going out of style

>>136414501
Well sorry that I want to "brainwash" you into being a good person who does good things for your community without expect better things to happen to you in return.

How can you honestly argue that being a Christian because you are afraid of hell is better than being a Christian because being a good person in itself is worth it?

>>136415074
Fick off to Venezuela , or 1960s USSR.

>>136415217
Holy shit, my bad, I completely misread your comment, thought you were the retarded commie.

>>136415074
>a man grows a potato
>another man sits around
>man who grew the potato is forced to share it with the man that did nothing

yeah, thats totally not exploiting workers is it?

>>136415074
>Communism created unprecedented industrial growth
*kickstarted by western capitalists because lol, killing everyone that knows how to work a factory is a bad idea.
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk3/1979/7918/791812.PDF

>Lenin’s New Economic Policy, which came into effect after 1921, had as its central mechanism of technology transfer the granting of concessions to Western entrepreneurs. Technical assistance contracts, the employment of foreign engineers and experts in the U. S. S. R., and the dispatch of Soviet experts to training positions in the West were also utilized. Over 200 concessions were made to foreign firms between Lenin’s death and the first 5-year plan. While Soviet literature downgrades the contributions of foreign technology transfers accomplished through this medium, it is clear in retrospect that much of the rapid growth of the 1920’s was dependent on foreign operative and technical skills

>>136415217
> And ive never heard of a national socialist government starving
> Commies on the other hand do it on the daily like its going out of style
Be honest with yourself you "heard" commies starve people, you've never actually seen it.

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>>136414926
I appreciate all of these.

>>136415306
>Well sorry that I want to "brainwash" you into being a good person who does good things for your community without expect better things to happen to you in return.
Do you necessarily need communism to do that?

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>>136415461
u welcome fren

>>136415366
>yeah, thats totally not exploiting workers is it?
That's exploiting the worker. The guy who doesn't work shouldn't eat

You should share the potato with a grandmother who is old and can't work on the fields growing potatoes.

>>136415412
that argument can be made for national socialism or anything else. well i didn't see it so it didn't happen is how people get fucked over in the first place. you just look away and say it never existed. only a child uses that argument when he has nothing else to back it up

>>136415557
this >>136415461 thanks for the bumps

>>136415580
>You should share the potato with a grandmother who is old and can't work on the fields growing potatoes.
Again, do you need communism to do that?

>>136415713
no he doesnt, and any form of government that isnt anarchy accounts for situations like that. he's just a edgy faggot grasping at straws the man down the street had sewn and had to share

just saging by to remind you that the only thing worse than communist failure is the thought of communist success!

>>136415823
>he's just a edgy faggot grasping at straws the man down the street had sewn and had to share
Color me surprised.

>>136415684
National Socialism is fucked, because my life isn't worth more than your life because of the color of my skin.

The value of your and my life should be about how we try to help the respective communities we live in.

You do more for the community you live in than I do for the community I live in your life is worth more and vice versa.

My life shouldn't be worth more than yours because my parents had more money than you, and National Socialism does not address the problem of inherited wealth or rent extraction, if anything it makes the wealth extraction worse by declaring other people subhuman and gives itself the right to enslave them.

>>136410590
Pendejo sigue votando por lo mismo de siempre

>>136415823
> and any form of government
Look at Nigeria and the house nigger governments western imperialist powers set up in Africa.

Granny can starve, it doesn't happen here because Western countries accept a limited amount of socialism to stabilize their societies. They don't accept that kind of socialism in countries they seek to exploit.

>>136416470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA

>>136416171
>National Socialism is fucked, because my life isn't worth more than your life because of the color of my skin.
>The value of your and my life should be about how we try to help the respective communities we live in.

Agreed, but in your form of government it fails at taking into account of the desires of all the people is controls. While National Socialism takes care of its own people. Stay out of our home and we get along fine. If you come here deal with the consequences. That is the law of nature. it territorial, its human, and its natural.

FORCING people to act one way or get along with other kinds of people only causes problems. not to mention you still haven't fucking listed the countries that worked. I cant image why its so hard to do if its such a good and stable form of goernment

ITT: westerners eat up porky propaganda
Tough luck spooked cucks

ITT: uneducated lazy teens think communism works with no evidence of it working despite many attempts

>>136416578
It worked on catalonia, it worked on paris

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>>136410393
communism is an intellectually lazy ideology. i hope you die in a fire.

>>136416697
>It worked on catalonia, it worked on paris
Where are they now?

>>136416697
small communities are not nations. any form of governing even anarchy can work on a small scale

>>136416337
>Look at Nigeria and the house nigger governments western imperialist powers set up in Africa.
You mean the ones that get billions of dollars in development aid every year from the west. The ones that the Chinese are currently buying out to stripmine?

>>136416753
Killed by the fucking opposing government retard
>>136416699
Its easy as fuck to make arguments as a right winger, just say the same strawman shit and you won right

>>136416871
>Killed by the fucking opposing government retard
Then it didn't work, retard.

>>136416871
>you make strawman arguments its okay, someone else does it it wrong.

this is what communists actually believe

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Have you committed white genocide today? I flirt with it every night when I cum into my white GF.

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im out of images so i leave now.

>>136417041
I love squirting into white bitches, get over it polacks, whites are the past, its our turn to rule

>>136417041
stay with your own kind and make a better people.

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>>136414205
FUCKIN REKT

>>136417146
>its our turn to rule
>fucks a white bitch

you're a god damn contradiction and a half

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>>136417146
>dats rite

>>136417311
Im not paying anything to fucking whites, you kill yourselves over whos whiter lmao

>>136417422
and we kill each other over whose from what hood, the only way we can fix ourselves is taking responsibility and working to change it with our own people, not piggybacking off another group of whites claiming to "free us" because they never do

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>>136417422
>you kill yourselves over whos whiter lmao
>dem muffagin tutsis ain't rwandan tho

>>136417140
Please don't I love you

>>136416578
>not to mention you still haven't fucking listed the countries that worked.
China and the Soviet Union, people from the former Soviet Union and Communist block regret the end of Communism and think life under Communism was better see >>136413172

>FORCING people to act one way or get along with other kinds of people only causes problems.
National Socialism forces people to do all kinds of shit. I don't want to force you to get along with me, and if you don't like me that's fine. We shouldn't be killing each other or trying to exploit each other. If we hate each other we should try to ignore each other.

Socialism permits private property, and I think that currently private property is necessary. Ultimately I want my descendants to live in a society where there is no private property because that's not necessary to stop people from exploiting each other.

>That is the law of nature. it territorial, its human, and its natural.
We used to shit in the open, it was perfectly natural we don't do that anymore, human nature can change and instead of being an egoistic species we can be a cooperative species. Currently we aren't, a period of socialism is necessary to prepare humans for a Communist society.

Although personally I could live in a Communist society today as I always try to give more than I take. And so far I've given far more to my community than I've taken from it. I know humanity isn't at the point yet where everyone lives like me.

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>>136417621
heer fren! hav wun moe I found!

kill whitey

>>136417653
lets roll back a minute here and re-read my post.
>name a country that was communist that wasnt poor as fuck, having people starve to death, oppressed anyone who thought different, and interfered with other nations it had no right messing with.

USSR killed millions of its own people, china did the same, china has high suicide rates almost rivaling japan, and both have caused death and destruction of peoples in countries that had no need for them.

>National Socialism forces people to do all kinds of shit. I don't want to force you to get along with me, and if you don't like me that's fine. We shouldn't be killing each other or trying to exploit each other. If we hate each other we should try to ignore each other.

Alright, when your property-less starving and nearly dead decedents are begging for outside help instead of helping them I'll ignore them and let them die off and take the land as my own once they are gone. The communist problem is solved.

>>136418066
Looks like we're gunna need another china hate thread to remind these commie mongoloids what an absolute shithole that place is.

>>136417552
Fuck off I grew up in what you'd call "the hood" never had any problems with black people. People stuck together and helped each other. Also I'm white.
>not piggybacking off another group of whites claiming to "free us" because they never do
Fuck anyone who promises to free you, only person who can free you is you yourself, consequences are regularly shitty, but you free yourself, not me, not anyone.

>>136416699
sauce?

china was a utopia until mao seized power and killed 6 billion people to death and now it is ethiopia tier

>>136418198
>Fuck off I grew up in what you'd call "the hood" never had any problems with black people. People stuck together and helped each other. Also I'm white.

I don't believe that shit for a second. And if you are white then you have already lied previously >>136417146 and anything you say cannot be worth shit in discussion

>>136418378
>black
>can't read
yeh checks out

>>136418198
>Fuck off I grew up in what you'd call "the hood" never had any problems with black people. People stuck together and helped each other. Also I'm white.
Sure you did.

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>>136418066
>USSR killed millions of its own people
It didn't.
>Alright, when your property-less starving and nearly dead decedents are begging for outside help instead of helping them I'll ignore them and let them die off and take the land as my own once they are gone.
Yeah ok I made a mistake I thought you could overcome your conditioning and reading what you just wrote me actually made me sad. You didn't listen to anything I said and just projected the lies you've been fed onto me and wished ill upon my descendants, I wish your descendants the best regardless of you being an insane piece of shit.

You are delusional, socialism and capitalism failed us, its all the same shit, promises and lies, rscist are fucking insane too, what fucking gives if you kill all blacks, you will just choose to kill each other again over differences, humans were doomed since the moment they were conscious

>>136418712
>It didn't.
>because I said so

>Yeah ok I made a mistake I thought you could overcome your conditioning
>by reading a book written by a custy NEET and ignoring historical facts that are even admitted in the soviet archives

Fist yourself.

>>136418859
>capitalism failed us
>anarcho-capitalism
really makes me think

>>136418378
>I don't believe that shit for a second.
I don't give a shit about what you believe, you can believe in a sky god who likes to fuck virgins for all that I care. Also >>136417146 is a different guy.

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>>136419238
What? I cant change my mind now?

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>>136419631
Thanks again for the meme, friendo.

>>136419680
See >>136415395

>>136419795
Np, love ya brah

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>>136419847
<3

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>>136410393
Revolution?
Let's do it!

>>136419697
you can change your flag x

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Oh cool, nice porky thread.

>>136410393
fuck you

>>136419631
Communism is like being in a room with 10 other guys and your girlfriend, and then sharing her because everyone should get a piece.

Communism = Ultimate Cuckening

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>>136410783

>>136422391
What a childish and stupid analogy

>>136412917
>le feely feely feels feely feels XDDD!!!!

>>136413497
"Economic freedom" isn't the definition of capitalism. There are tons of capitalist countries that would count as "not free." But I'm sure that's not real capitalism and real capitalism hasn't been tried yet.

>>136415312
The USSR wasn't starving in the 1960s.

>>136416913
In the same way Rhodesia didn't work.