Why are Irish people considered a "lesser" white?

You've yet to encounter an Irish Gypsy?

>>136384243
Its anglo bullshit

>>136384502
>You've yet to encounter an Irish Gypsy?
No, what are they like?

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It's just bants.

>>136384243
Probably because people who focus on skin color are usually of lower social status, lower IQ and generally unlikable cunts.

>>136384611
Irish fella here, they are fucking scumbags. You should read some of the shit they do back home to old people who live alone.

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>>136384611

>>136384243
it's banter from the time when they were considered the same as niggers today
back then there were rarely any black crimes and irish people did crimes
its just anglo bant

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>>136384243
you just have to look at them for starters. leave your house, and go look at one

>>136384857


> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMV2tfk3PXQ

Ed Sheeran's English. Don't know the others except the Harry Potter bitch.

>>136384689
>argument about race
>pics of beautiful young women and small children to make pros
>pics of men and old women to make cons

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>>136384243
Anglo jealousy. They're bitter because they've imported so many pakis and niggers, and they've fallen to Islam like utter cucks
The absolute STATE of London these days

>>136384509
t. o'hara

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>>136385162
>typical day out in London

>>136384243
Because of them being the laziest and most humble northern europeans for hundreds of years and being cucked by the brits for so long.
And I'm like over a third irish, it's just the truth.
Not their fault, and they're probably the most preserved celtic people so that's kinda cool.

>>136384689
Literally same girl twice.

>>136385162
>these days
It was like that in the 90s

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>typical day out shopping in England

>>136384243
The simplest answer is to use the Irish people's behavior and history as an example. Violent drunkards who manage to make the Scots look cultured.

Irish are generally hideous and your language is so revolting no one speaks it. The only thing you have going for you is your very pale skin but it's often ruined by your hair.

At least you've figured out how to form a functioning economy though. So good on you for lifting yourselves out of poverty,

>>136385881
Retard, the Protestants inheirted Ireland from the Catholic Normans. Before the Protestants, Ireland was doing just fine for itself. When the Potato famine hit during WWI, some figures placed 750,000 dead in Germany due to undernourishment.

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>>136384243
Irish women turn me on desu.

Because they get buttblasted when their anglo overlords state this

Noond apart from polspastics cares

Literally noone ever said X is white irl


Irirsh are white tho

Its the anglo that says it to justify his abhorrent threatment of white people, enslaving them.

Irish, Russians are white .
Every single geneticists would agree

All else is pol tier autistic brosience

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>>136384243
Leftist propaganda; also British Royalty propaganda. Reagan, for example, was an Irish Protestant descent. His father was a devout Catholic, but Reagan decided to "follow" his mother's religion, probably due to JFK being an assassinated Catholic. Reagan's family go back to the Tribes of Tara, those in Dublin who fought off Vikings.

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>>136384243
Because Irish had different characteristics. On a perfect world we would live separately from the Irish.
It's just that niggers and mudslimes are way worse so they don't get picked on as often as before

>>136386459
Vikings got rekt in Ireland, there DNA was largely R1A, it's practically non existent in Ireland today. The Irish got so pissed off with the Vikings, that they built there own fleet, sail off to the western isles and sacked the Viking fleet. Funnily enough, it is in the Western Isles and Orkney were you can find the Viking R1A today.

It's just because they're Catholic that they were considered trashy.

>>136384243
Americans didn't like the Irish because they're violent drunken Catholics.

>>136387077
>It's just that niggers and mudslimes are way worse so they don't get picked on as often as before
Why don't you go research the Irish 88th Brigade in the Union Army, they were the ELITE.


> 88

>>136387180
>there
their own fleet

> there
their DNA

>>136384243
two cake-face stacies, a nu-male with a patchy beard and a fucking ginger. Is this seriously the best you got? Fucking hell

>>136387288
>violent, drunken Catholics
The best kind of Catholics.

>>136384243
Ellie Goulding (bottom left) isn't even Irish

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>>136387213
Also British Royalty propaganda, like a Protestant King (descent) would ever call himself "trashy" like yeah, Catholics are the only Christians.

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Because a study conducted by an ulster protestant put our national IQ 4 points below Britain.

In the past it was used as an excuse to justify military campaigns in Ireland to remove peoples whom rejected the English language and religion. You don't have to be a geneticist to conclude that the 'Irish Iberian' picture is a complete falsehood , I have seen more English men resembling that ape thing than Irishmen.

>>136384502
Irish gypsies are just a group of people who at some point in history decided to separate from the rest of society and interbreed for generations.

Saying that travellers are representative of Irish people is as retarded as saying that Amish people represent Americans.

>>136384243
>takes hyperbolic bantz seriously
>being this new
lurk moar

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Goulding is a Jew.
The Irish are great people whom I love. Shame we treated them like slaves. If we treated them like equals as we should have, we'd probably still be sharing the same country.
I still like Cromwell, though.

>>136387624
False. Richard Lynn is from Bristol. He has worked in a university in Ulster, but has also done the same in a university in Dublin. I doubt he had a serious agenda against the Irish.

>>136388293
>>136387624
Moreover, he has never given his view on religion and, therefore, never stated that he was Protestant. He's most likely an atheist.

>>136384689
Who's top right?

>>136384243
>>136384509
Ellie Goulding is not Irish.

Ed Sheeran is one quarter Irish, one quarter Northern Irish and half English.

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>>136384243
See related pic

>>136387752
I believe they are called tinkers.

>>136389998
Irish and Scots were always the warrior class of the UK imho, with the English being the brains behind the operation and the Welsh being too small in numbers to make any major contribution.

>>136384243
Irish have accomplished fuck all, they are the only western european country with no real achievement:

>Portugal
Great and first colonial Empire
>Spain
Great colonial Empire, conquistadors
>British
Great colonial Empire, pioneered industrial revolution
>France
Great colonial Empire, gravity center and political leader of western Europe during the middle until Napoleonic era
>Netherlands
Great colonial Empire relatively to its size
>Italy
Rome/Renaissance
>Scandinavia
Viking explorations/colonizations, good intelectual contribution since the XIXth
>Belgium
Shitty colonial Empire but fair amount of intelectual contribution
>Switzerland
Lot of intelectual contributions
>Germany
No great Empire but important intelectual contribution since the XIXth
>Austria
Habsburg Empire

And then you have Ireland, that is not known for anything but some middle age monks, being bullied by anglos, starving and immigrating to the USA.

A British grandpa told me that the Irish got the independence from the UK because during WWI they threatened the British that if they didn't become independent they would allow German planes to land in their territory, is that true?

>>136388206
An heretic British showing admiration for the kingslayer and killer of Catholics Oliver Cromwell, why am I not surprised. Well at least he got beheaded after being buried

>>136390864
>Literally copied and preserved 1000s of Latin and Grecian literature otherwise lost and were one of the greatest forces for missionaries since time in memoriam
>"have accomplished fuck all"

>>136388206
Cromwell can go fuck himself
t. Proud descendent of Lancastrian Catholic Cavaliers.

>>136392439
How is Protestantism heretical? You do realise that you don't get saved by works and that the Catholic Church practises idolatry, vain chanting and traditional pagan practices, correct? Or are you simply just calling me a heretic out of religion-linked nationalism?
Cromwell was right in terms of religion and contributed to weakening tyranny in this country. He killed Catholics because they had previously chimped out. Catholics also massacred countless English people before he gained power. They burnt Englishmen at the stake simply for reading an English Bible. Why does Catholicism forbid actually being able to UNDERSTAND the word of God, Felipe?

>>136392611
My ancestor was a captain in the Royalist army who fought against the Cromwell in the Battle of Edgehill.

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>/pol/ thinks you would be betraying your race by breeding her.

mud shovelling micks

I can feel the potato in my genetics

>>136393151
I have no idea why this photo is so fucking sexy, anyone has ideas?

>>136393546
>ginger
>sweaty
>nice butt
>pale skin
>provocative facial expression

>>136384611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH3DHhuGBBU

>>136393688
well, that's all true. plus the perfectly round tits - not too big, not too small, and hands positioned in this way. absolutely fucking sexual.

>>136392840
The eternal Anglo propaganda never sleeps, I see. I just said heretic for banter, but it seems you took it quite seriously.
And paganism like what? Honestly I cannot understand how you can admire so much a figure such as this guy.

>>136385426
Holy shit that's London?? It looks like a National Geographic pic of Islamabad. FFS you limey gits, get your shit straightened out. Do you really want this to represent your country? Your ancestors are rolling in their graves.

>>136387624
that retard unironically put all the based blue countries

>>136393910
He contributed a lot to our parliamentary democratic political system and put a tyrant in his rightful place. He was also a puritan, which is good from a religious standpoint.
What did he do wrong that countless leaders before him did not? You think Alexander the Great never killed innocents? The difference is that Alexander did it out of a lust for power, and that Cromwell did it for religious reasons.

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>>136384243
Celtic people are trash

>>136384243
it's a matter of behaviour
the vast majority in the irish part of my family, and all the irish I've met are liars, lazy, backstabbers, hypocritical badmouthers, alcoholics, dimwits, cowards, filthy, proud when they somehow manage to do a half assed job, etc

if you want to be treated as a Human, start behaving as a Human
which I've seldom seen an irish do
in my experience, most of them might as well be niggers, for all it'd change

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>>136384243
>meme meta talk

>>136392497
the reason why they had a empire in the first place was because of the irish

>>136384243
>European
>white

Pick one nigger.

>>136384243
Primarily because they were Catholics living in Protestant lands. 'Fellow whites' treated them like slaves and genocided them (Cromwell's Conquest left around 40% of the population dead).

For some reason white supremacist larpers think this is funny and proves that some whites are 'niggers'.

>>136384847
That last thing is subjective. And your statement is flawed aswell.

>>136394452
How so? Was Cecil Rhodes Irish? Was King George III Irish? Was Queen Victoria Irish? Isambard Kingdom Brunel? Francis Drake? Cromwell? James Cooke? William Pitt the Younger? Get real. Some Irish cannon fodder in the British Army does not mean you created our empire.

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>>136384243
Do you always believe what the britbongs say?

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>>136384243
>Why are Irish people considered a "lesser" white?
go read Darwin yourself

Irish are white as fuck. Some of the whitest people I know are Irish. The meme comes from early immigration days. It's long past. Back then you were comparing them to the British and French. Today you're comparing them to Mexicans.

>>136394581
claim we are niggers but their behaviour is worser than your average african

>>136394227
>Puritanism is good
I just don't understand this point

Alexander the Great civilised a lot of unknown land at that moment, we inherited the Hellenic culture after all. That is why he is considered "great" and not fucking Cromwell

>>136384243
The morons that come up with shit don't understand the actual definition of "Aryan" or "European". It's a constant struggle from them to prove themselves "more European" because they have blonde hair/blue eyes.

>>136387077
Irish iberian? Wtf

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>>136386219
Irish """""""""""""""women"""""""""""""""""

>>136384243
Ed Sheeran looks half goldfish and you want to tell me hes the same?

>>136394268
Wow, a serial killer, grave robber, and necrophile didn't like the Irish. Very helpful to know.

>>136384243
In the United States there was lots of anti-Irish sentiment that stemmed from the fact that most of them were of the Catholic persuasion. Nowadays it's mainly just teenaged cunts on /pol/ LARPing as 1800s WASPs

>>136395200
Persia, Egypt and the Levant were already very civilised at that time.
From a British standpoint, Cromwell conquering Ireland eventually civilised Ireland. Most things that are in Ireland today are a result of British rule, from the development of their capital and Irish infrastructure to the construction of canals.
About puritanism, you don't seem to be Christian, so I won't bother.

Were it not for Henry "Fat bastard" VIII we'd probably still have the UK of GB and I

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>Ireland

>>136395491
Even he had to draw the line somewhere....

>>136394268
lmao Andrew Jackson was god-tier

One of the few presidents to go after central bankers and actually emerge victorious. Rothschilds tried to put a hit on him on multiple occasions.

>>136395428
Hell, not a single good ass.

That ginger is hot though.

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>>136395428

sauce?

Ireland belongs to the UK the British Isles.

>>136395627
other flags in that pic are all 3rd world shitholes

>>136395882

to make you feel more comfortable.

>>136384243
Because Irish people are descended from the Celts. A people that were treated and described as the niggers of the ancient world.

Crapped on by the Romans and then further embarrassed by their (superior) Germanic neighbors.

>>136396142
Irish weren't conquered by the Romans. Also, every English person has more native Celtic British ancestry than Anglo-Saxon. It's the same in the New World too.

>>136395882
>all flags in that pic are all 3rd world shitholes

FTFY

>>136390864
How ungrateful, hundreds of thousands of Irishmen fought and died for you frogs over the years and all you can do is be a typical snobby ignorant frog cunt and sneer at us. Also Irish people accomplished many things and were extremely influential, you should know you had an Irish-French president.

>>136396142

I really detest this stupid thought process that only Irish and Scotish were descended from the celts do you really think the Celts traveled all across Europe yet only ever settled in ireland/scotland?

>>136395627
Anyone have the ass in question?

>>136394689
And inbred royals don't make empires either. Soldiers do.Also do your research, many ''British generals'' were Irish and not just Anglo-Irish, IRISH.

>>136384243
>Why are Irish people considered a "lesser" white?
Because they're basically (relatively) high IQ white niggers. Everyone knows Irish have poor impulse control and get addicted to alcohol easily. Also they (Gingers especially) have soulless eyes...a doll's eyes. Remind you of anyone? They should all be deported to Africa.

>>136395378
Iberia is where Irish people and even the Brits are from originally, we are your cousins Juan.

>>136384243
People like to think of themselves as being greater than other people. Did you have any high school rivalries? Our school is better than your school, my town is better than your town, my team is better than your team. Our nation is better than your nation.

That's essentially what happened to the Irish, and it's not really fair. They're fine people.

>>136384243
britfags just jealous of the Irishman being better than them.

>>136384243

This is the best breakfown of the recent history of the irish people, particularly the diaspora.

Stereotypes dont spring out of the ground.

https://youtu.be/WHr9GRgRw_M

>>136384243
Ed Sheeran and Ellie Goulding aren't Irish.

why do people tolerate the anglo scum? they are worse than dogs, and fought on the wrong side of ww2. Why blame things on Jews when you have an entire country of fucking traitors, UK

>>136387604
>Forgettin the orthodox

callin bullshit there m8. You got a pretty catholic offshoot with a shitton of local pagan flavor.

Truest christians are most likely the coptics or the greek orthodox.

>>136384243
well they just elected a gay paki for their leader so I think it's pretty obvious

>>136384243
This is a tough one for me as I'm 1/3 irish. My mothers side of the family are full on fire redheads and they are crazy af. They drink fight and cuss like sailors. They hate all of their cousins and fight them too. It was an interesting childhood. I've never met a true Irishman but I assume they act like my family.

>>136396809
Arthur Wellesley (Duke of wellington) was an irishman

>>136387503

I didnt know there was another type.

>>136385162
>he says with a homosexual Indian for his Prime Minister

>>136396306
The Celts were pushed off Europe by the Romans and then pushed further north by the anglos, Saxons and the Jutes (Germanic and Aryan) tribes.

>>136396712
I never said there weren't celts throughout the world during ancient times.

I said the majority were BTFO by superior civilizations and had to settle for what they got. Hence why they are the inferior part of the white race.

They are Catholic, and as a result aren't any better than hispanics.

>>136397912
They weren't pushed anywhere. The local populations just adopted the newer cultures and language.

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>>136397275
Are you still upset over Dresden?

>>136398379
>implying he's a kraut

Probs pajeet behind the meme flag

>>136396809
>>136397498
Arthur Wellesley was a British colonist in Ireland. A Protestant. As Irish as Ian Paisley, really. If he was around today he'd probably vote DUP.
There were plenty of English, Scottish and Welsh soldiers too. So we also built our empire. It wasn't just Irish soldiers. Yet most of the leaders were British, or British colonists in Ireland. There were maybe a few generals called O'Hara or O'Grady or whatever, but when the most-boasted about general is Arthur WELLESLEY, then that just shows you have not much to deal with.
I do like and respect the Irish, though, and wish we treated them as equals. I also respect the early IRA that fought against us. I have an IRA member of my family (no blood relations) from the War of Independence.

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>>136384243
Scots are objectively the whitest group of people

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>>136398942
Welsh people are pretty white too.

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>>136396142
>>136396712

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>>136399515
Are the "black Irish" with dark hair from the southeast and the east? That would fit with the dark appearance of the Welsh and English, who are both Brythonic Celts.

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>>136399246
they are good too. they are celts, but still not part of the GAELIC MASTER RACE

the only niggers that you can call irish are the ones in monsterrat in the carribean

the rest are larping new irish

>>136384243

>Dublin was founded by fucking Vikings of all things.
>LE VIKINGZZZZZZZZ XDXDXD

It's just banter though, don't take it seriously. It's usually burgers who push the "Irish are not white" thing.

>>136385162

>casually forgets the state of Dublin/his new prime minister

I bet you were laughing about how London had a muslim mayor too, lol.

>>136399845
"Scots" from Strathclyde are ethnically Brythonic (usually referred to as Welsh), most Lowland Scots (from the important part of Scotland) are ethnically-English (even their language "Scots" is just English with a bit of autism). That leaves the Highlands and the Western Isles as Gaelic.

>>136384243
Everyone that said that it is mainly just "banter" from the Anglo Brits, is pretty much right. The Irish were just the degenerate whites of society when society was almost 90% white in the UK area. Thats pretty much were the whole "Green Niggers" term comes from,other than that its said that the Irish have some nigger roots in there genes, but ive failed to find much research or evidence on this. If you research the Irish history or DNA you will find more links to the Southern Irish having more Viking or Germanic roots and ancestry, and yeah that is primarily from Eric the Red raiding Dublin and other parts of the Southern Irish Coast.

>>136399845
>Implying Anglos aren't the master race

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>>136400071
English people aren't really Anglo-Saxon. They are, in fact, overwhelmingly native Brythonic Celtic. The area of England with the highest average amount of Anglo-Saxon DNA is the north with about 40%. It's lower in other areas. "Anglo" is a meme.

>>136384243
You have got to be kidding. Another Irish People aren't White thread.

Potato munchin' , cream ale guzzlin' Irishman here to tell you to suck my fat Irish cock you STOOPID NIGGER.

The Irish are GOD TIER WHITE. We may possibly be the only actual whites, cause we our mothers didnt get fucked int he ass by romans!
IRISH:
(1)green eyes,
(2)red hair,
(3)cream ale,
(4)invented the scottish (yeah thats right, we INVENTED them)
(5) lily white skin (in fact a fucking painting company called me last week, they were having a dispute with a customer about the colour white and asked me to come over to compare their paint to my skin!)
(6) eat nothing but white potatoes (and really who needs anything else, french fries and vodka!)
(7) the super hottest most bangable chicks on the planet
(8) the worlds true first modern terrorists
(9) have never surrendered to occupation
(10) more geniuses per capita then any other nationality (including the jews)

Do I need to go on?

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>>136400046
I am aware of this
Highlanders >>> Lowlanders aka bargain brand English

>>136395814

Jackson isn't even an Irish name. He probably descended from a English colonizer.

>His parents were Scots-Irish colonists Andrew and Elizabeth Hutchinson Jackson, Presbyterians who had emigrated from Northern Ireland two years earlier.
>His paternal family line originated in Killingswold Grove, Yorkshire, England

Oh look i was right

>>136400337
True, I prefer Highlanders. Seem more warlike than the Lowlanders, who are generally more intellectual.

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>>136395428
I would absolutely smash every pale, flabby ass in that picture like the fist of an angry god.

>>136384243
Fuck off kike
Sage

>>136400337
bullshit
Scotland was originally populated by Irish, england was still living in grass huts when we were exploring the world
we let them take over scotland cause there's nothing there but a bunch of rocks, even the romans couldn't be bothered with scotland

>>136393151
Dat ass... damn

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>>136384243
Irish are not with. Just look at this negress.

>>136390864
The frog speaks the truth. The Irish are fucking niggers who have contributed very little to Western civilisation. Even Oscar Wilde, their greatest son, was actually an Anglo. Truly pathetic """""people""""", only fit for slavery.

>>136400414
Highland culture is much more interesting than Lowland culture, which is pretty much the same as English. But the Borderers seem to have been much different from the other Lowlanders, very warlike and extremely loyal to their clan.

>>136396863
>Americunt mutt kike master race
You are a fucking embarrassment to the anglosphere
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRmYlCJ70z8

>>136384243

Mostly because the English are projecting their own insecurities. Deep down, the English know they're not pure people. What the world know as English is actually a muddy mix of Celt, German, Dane, French, Italian and whatever the else the Italians brought with them.

>>136393688
To add:
>perfect skin
>crazy bedroom hair
>submissive position
>1000 yard dick-stare

She wants to be inseminated deeply and is showing all the signs of such. Whoever titled that picture hit the nail on the head. She is an animal in heat.

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>>136400370
When we you get it.
We invented the Scottish.
We invented the English.
We were bored and wanted someone to fight. So we sent soem people to scotland, and England. Look at the maps of the Ice age, the Irish are the ONLY original inhabitants of all the British Isles.

Now we own Canada, Australia, and most of the US. Most succesful tribe in human history. And with a track record like that, we could only be white.

>>136384502

Stop calling those fucking caravaners gypsies.

Gypsies are brown and come from romania

>>136400046
you're completely ignoring the fact that the "Scots" are a mix of peoples, much like the "Welsh" and "English"

Scots are Cumbrians, Picts and Dalriatans

>>136384243
English propaganda to justify and excuse their invasion, subjugation and mistreatment of them.

>>136401119
"Green Niggers" hes calling them that because of the movie 'Snatch'

>>136401119
we call them pikeys here, kiddo

>>136401219
The term "Scot" comes from the Scoti tribe that settled Scotland. It's like "French" comes from Frank, even though most frogs aren't ethnically Frankish, and "English" from the Angles, when the English are pretty much Celtic.
Also, the Welsh seem to be the most ethnically homogenous of the British Isles. However, the South Welsh are a bit darker than the North Welsh.

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>>136401103

What are you even rambling about colonial mutt

>>136396886
This is false.

>>136384243
They act like niggers and (((merchants))). Behavior also matters not just skin color.

>>136390122
They used to be called knackers

>>136384243
Reminder Jews are behind every "Irish not white" thread
>Most competitive political group in the US against the kikes
>most widespeard european ethnic group
>Most whites in the anglosphere have at least partial Irish ancestry

Destroy the identity of the Irish as "non or lesser whites" and destroy white pride world wide.

>>136400868
This frog doesnt have a fucking clue. We fucking invented half of Europe, the better half mind you. England was nothing prior to Irish occupation. A bunch of faggy druids worshipping trees and rocks, living in mud huts (remind you of anyone). And Scotland, if it weren't for Irish, there wouldn't even be a fucking Scotland.

>>136384243
Because anglos and his propaganda

>>136401533
No, most Brits are quite ethnically similar to the Basques.

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>>136400046
Incorrect, the Highlands were practically cleared and the people resettled in the Lowlands. The areas with the highest concentration of people identifying as Scots is in the lowlands, in particular the areas surrounding Glasgow.

>>136384243
Ireland is likw Britain's younger brother who you tried to drag around and do cool shit with, but he wouldn't stop bitching and moaning so you started to bully him a little, just to let the stress off, but it was so damn funny you had to keep on doing it, and now you're wondering how hiding all his potatoes for a lark has led to social services giving you a call.

Or something like that.

>>136401744
Hmm. I'll have to take a look at that. I thought most of the Highlanders moved to the colonies.
>>136401776
Great mod.

Look into their beady, celtic eyes and you will not find the glimmer of a soul. Instead you will see the cold depths of paddy insanity brought on by years of solid Guiness and Potato abuse. The eternal Paddy puts the Jew to shame with his penchant for schemeing. There is no depths too deep, no act too vile for the evil Paddy.

>>136401966
Evidently we are your number 1 competition kike

>>136384243
I stopped buying my favorite protein bars because they kept stuffing Ellie Goulding ads inside at the factory which would press against the protein bar and become slimy and get ink on the food. How could anyone think this would make anyone excited about Ellie Goulding. Entire teams of people thought this was a good idea. Half of the point of an airtight seal around your processed food item is to convince people that it's clean and ready to eat. But yes let's stuff a separate paper ad in there covered in slime. What the fuck is wrong with people.

>>136402081
Ease up mate I'm only shitposting.

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>>136401966
Good call Steve.

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>>136401956
Borders is around 75-80% identifying as Scots, those red blotches around Glasgow are 90-99%.
This is why Glasgow voted Yes, native Scots were majority for Indy.

scotland.datashine.org.uk

>>136402283
Yes, but that doesn't imply your ethnicity, just your identity. Most English people think that they are Anglo-Saxon, yet are overwhelmingly native Briton.

>>136402283
LARPing as jocks?

>>136390864
You forgot to mention France's major strides in the diplomatic field of surrendering. We never surrendered, not even after 700 years.

>>136384243
>Dublin was founded by fucking Vikings of all things
Yes as a .... fucking slavemarked well thralls.
We called it Dyflinn

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>>136401501
colonial mutt
you've got to be kidding, my ozzie wife just finished making me shrimp bisque, I live in nearly 100% white community, no crime, no niggers, no pakis raping our kids

fuck if this is the "colonies" Im glad my grandparents bailed out of jolly ol england after ww2, but dont worry cousin, I feel for ya, and when the time comes ......

"any englishman who goes into battle without his sword is underdressed"

>>136400828
she's butt ugly, though

>>136397869
>Muslim Mayor

>>136402520
Is this Macron?

>>136397869
The people didn't elect him.

>>136402534
>a mayor that secretly hates gays is worse than a openly faggy pooinloo PM

>>136402520
Wipe the garlic grease out your eyes Pierre and look again

>>136402498

Thats nice but you're still a mutt, and i also live in one of those areas except we're not mutts.

>>136384243
Irish don't have the mythological "Ayan" chromosomes.

>>136401647
That's a beautiful, romantic origin myth, but not one at all supported by population genetics over the past few years. The new story that the latest DNA studies suggest is this:
During the Late Neolithic, Eurasian pastoralists that had mastered the horse, other domesticated livestock, the wheel, and early metallurgy, expanded off of the Pontic and Caspian Steppes, partly replacing, partly admixing with the Neolithic farmers of Central Europe to generate the fusion "Corded Ware" culture. The patterns that followed this expansion across the remainder of the European continent are complex, but what we do know is that a population that was rich in Steppe DNA, particularly Steppe Y-DNA, emerged in Central Europe that adopted the "Bell Beaker" culture.
They moved northwards down the Rhine, reaching what is now the Netherlands. Many of them then crossed the North Sea, and reached the British and Irish Isles. They almost totally displaced, or replaced the Neolithic farmers that were then living in Britain and Ireland. A recent genetic study suggested at least 93% replacement.
Ironically, it was that earlier, Neolithic farmer population that were closer to Iberian, and had Y haplogroups that appear to have moved up the Atlantic coast from Iberia. The Neolithic farmers also carried a lot of DNA that appear to have originated in Anatolia and the Levant much earlier, during the Neolithic Revolution. The Bell Beaker population on the other hand had a fair percentage of Steppe DNA from what is now Ukraine, Southern Russia, and Kazakhistan, which also dominated their Y-DNA such as R1b-L21.

Based on current evidence, the British/Irish Bell Beaker population appear to remain the last major migration into places like Ireland and Scotland. Your British "Celts" appear to be descended from them, not romantic Gaels from Iberia.

>>136402783
>>136402534
>pointless dickmeasuring
Ireland and America have both had non-white leaders, and London has a Muslim mayor. There is no competition here. We're all equally cucked in this regard.

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>>136402451
Well, you were literally part of the UK, and your Constitution was changed to remove claim of Norn Iron...

>>136394899
>implying brits are the blackers, thusly black

Found Jamal

>>136402534

How is a muslim mayor of a city somehow worse than your head of state being a gay poo?

please can you do your research before talking about the origins of the british natives
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4632200/

>>136402905
I prefer to look at the Lord Mayor

Irish people are white. It's an American meme, when most of their Irish are mystery meats anyway, just like the rest of their whites.

>>136384502
>Gypsy
>Irish

>>136401119
India*

>>136402874
Interesting.

>>136402384
What are we counting as Scot here? Picts only? Don't think that was an option on the census. A Scot with an Anglo type surname or Irish surname would count themselves just as Scottish as Hamish MacLeod the Kilt maker.

>>136403070
before we had the brown gypsies, we called the irish travellers gypsies. Pikeys is the correct term to use in this era

>>136402911
Ask the average Irishman whether or not his country bares claim to the north. What political phonies write or remove on paper means little .

>>136403219
McLeods are viking iirc

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>all these posts that aren't pics of Dolores
i'm too old to be here

>>136403270
I don't care what you think, I care about the reality.

>>136403219
I doubt Scots know that much about their heritage. These, days, they all probably consider themselves Scottish. When a wog from Jamaica considers himself Scottish, then Picts and "Welsh" from Strathclyde will too.

>>136399357
>That nose.

HNNG!

>>136403382
William Wallace was was Welsh or Norman (or the Normans gave them land in Scotland)

Bonnie Prince Charlie was an anglo
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9211247/DNA-reveals-the-truth-about-Bonnie-Prince-Charlie.html

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>>136403555
The Wallace surname means Welsh IIRC. Like Walsh in Ireland. Loads of Welsh surnames in Ireland too, as most of the Norman conquerors had conquered Wales previously and held land there, and also interbred with the Welsh; lots of Welsh emigrated to Ireland after that. Pic related. I myself (unless any of my ancestors were cucked) am a descendant of Raymond FitzGerald, a Welsh-Norman conqueror of Ireland.

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>>136402874
We Wuz Mongols

they are celts who are the remnants of the first indo-european wave across europe. they are differentiated from the germanic invaders who conquered most of europe at the fall of the roman empire but they are of nearly identical r1b genetic stock. there is really not much differnce other than culturally

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>>136384243
Not to generalize, but some of the Irish people in that image actually are lesser whites, objectively speaking.

>>136403326
Competing theories apparently. Some trace the Clan name to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9ot_of_Brechin
Some to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_the_Black

Isn't it a academic distinction though? No one looks at the surname MacLeod and goes 'Norwegian!'. It's a Scottish name and is a indicator of the person roots lying in Scotland.

>>136403555
lol, a Telegraph lets undermine Scottish identity whilst bolstering British identity article. Everyone knows Scottish monarchs mixed with English monarchs, how else did the Stewart Kings take the English throne? To call him an Anglo is a bit of a stretch though.

>>136404233
the "Mc" patronym for surnames is an irish/gaelic thing - Scots used to describe only 1 tribe, but now describes all tribes north of the wall. The vikings adopted local cultureand names when they came, hence the term "norse-gaelic"

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the really inexplicable shit is why is there such a heavy concentration of R1b in the Congo? maybe escaped roman slaves or something?

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>>136404843
>inexplicable
not really

>>136384243
Modern Anglos are literally like 80% Celtic. Everyone knows Irish are just as white as the rest of Europe.

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>>136405065
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4632200/

>>136404843
It's rather simple, inversely my paternal line is English E-V13. Haplogroup spread is a funny thing, but the basic gist is populations found an area and are displaced or eradicated by a new population.

>>136384243
It's a myth invented by leftists because they think (incorrectly) that it undermines whites. Certainly Irish immigrants were discriminated against in the past ("No Irish!"), but the idea that people thought of Irish as non-white is an anachronism. French and Germans fought each other for centuries, as did the French and English, but this animosity doesn't have anything to do with whether they're white. Leftists, however, think that if you can believe that in the past people thought of Irish as non-white even though they are considered white today, then the whole idea of being white is arbitrary. They want white people to think that being white is an invention. It's a non-sequitur, and it's wrong. But even if Irish were considered non-white in the past, this might merely have been an error. It's not argument that because the Greeks had a geocentric model of the solar system that astronomy is a "social construct" without validity.

>>136405048
that doesn't explain it to me. the majority of africans are A and B haplogroups. the R1b haplogroup originated in central asia at the LGM and then spread west into europe, probably via anataolia. how does a seperate population get in southern africa?

>>136395428
im a guy and have an ass like the blonde on the far left. would that be considered a good ass? or maybe also like second from far right. im a twink btw.

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>>136405662
>how does a seperate population get in southern africa?
walking?

>>136384243
It came from American nativism in the 1800's and the fact that Brits needed an excuse to treat them like shit.

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>>136395428
Lunges and squats ladies, lunges and squats.

>>136405887
yes, or riding fucking camels, but thats not the point. look at the map, you can see the spread of R1b from east to west, it was a gradual process where century by century the indo europeans displaced ne population after another in sequence. the r1b population in the congo is completely isolated, they obviously did not conquer north africa in paleolithic times, so why are they in south central africa now? and I guess what might answer my question is if I could establish the date when that population first appeared

>>136406735
>and I guess what might answer my question is if I could establish the date when that population first appeared
well yes, you have to understand the timeframe of it - it is a long time ago and the weather was a lot different to what it's like now. Also, why would they have had to conquer? Surely the populations were so sparse it was just settlement on land that previously was empty

>>136407046
the indo europeans conquered europe with bronze weapons and largely displaced the previous stone age inhabitants many of who were I group. it was about 2/3 conquest, genocide and settlement and 1/3. miscegenation.

the general pattern throughout human history is movement out of subsaharan africa which was not sparsely populated it was at its ecological limit. this is one of the few cases I can see of movement back into subsaharan africa

>>136384243
To Americans, irish are "OK" in our book.

The British have their own ideas about Ireland.

Fun fact: High-honored Scots related to Irish & Welsh.

>>136385843
That's an immense task too and they are cousins so

>>136407046
for all I know it could have been belgian colonists fucking the shit out of primitives. thats why I say, i wouldn't mind some datat as to first appearance, but I haven't found it yet

>>136407789
>The British have their own ideas about Ireland.
it seems the burgers have their own ideas about ireland actually
see >>136399467

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>>136384243
>Why are Irish people considered a "lesser" white?
We don't consider them lesser, you shareblue faggot. Irish women are what we white men call "hot as fuck!"

sage

>>136408107
This is a possible source of R1b in Egypt and down into the Sahel region of Africa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos
This is the group that may have carried Y-haplogroup R1b into Egypt, with its descendants being pushed further south inro Africa by the dynastic struggles in Egypt and the later conquest of Egypt by the Greeks and then the Romans. (Vanquished armies often faced the choice of execution, slavery or escape into exile.)

>>136408535 that was my initial guess, but it is weird that there is almost no r1b in Egypt, they would have had to been wiped out by semitic people

>>136384243

I think it has to do with cultural achievements. Did Ireland ever achieve anything of note until the 20th century outside of literature?

Was there any cottage industry in Ireland? Were they part of the Renaissance? Idk, I am part Irish, and I think there's something special about Irish people, but the lack of monuments and culture of the British, French, even Spanish and others was always striking to me.

It just seemed like a country with a ton of poor white people

>>136405879
get your faggotry out of here
also no, you need into squats bro

>>136408535
there is speculation that akhenaten was of indo european origin, and you can see on the map where the heavy concentration begins at the bottom of the nile and then spreads west

>>136408997
They literally preserved catholicism when the rest of the Roman empire had deteriorated back into paganism

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>>136384243
They are cutties even with their yellowish teeth.

I like foxy people.

>>136384243
Psyop to tear us apart

>>136408793
>>136409303
I wouldn't doubt it, haplogroup study is sometimes like an irl X-Files. Only time will tell, though, so it can be rather frustrating when seeking answers.

>>136384611
They're human shit with no redeeming qualities, imagine you took a group of people and you just made them as shit and bad as possible and you'd get gippos

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>>136384243

>Grow up in England

>Be told my family is English through and through

>Get my DNA Results back

What the fuck happened?

>>136397490
It's that redhead gene I've got a bunch of redheads on my moms side too and they are crazy as fuck when drunk but otherwise nice but very strong personalities can be hard to reason with.

>>136409980
>low confidence region
1% jew?

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>>136401647
Basques are not like the rest of Spain. They are quite ugly.

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>>136395378

Mark Wahlberg.

Look at his face.

White Niggers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv9KCMlLUpg

>>136410162
So... we must be descended from Basques then!

>>136410162
at least they're white

>>136409980
If it helps Ancestry dna is not very reliable (none of them are, honestly).

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>>136410158

Almost

>>136410279

I dunno, they nailed my wifes ancestry.

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>>136410534
yeah, they all add that, its just BS

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>>136410274
well, this is a vasco

I like better the rest of white people then, included those in Spain who doesn´t look like trolls.

leaf with mostly irish background here. Luckily my grandfather was an attractive lad but some of them are a bit fucked

How is Irish on inbreeding, anyone know?

>>136410162
Basques are interesting, they look very different - like they are pure-bred cromagnon.
Thick, oversized lumpy skulls, prone to aggression, animists, tribal haircuts and clothes.
They stand out a mile.

Cool to hang around with though.
Like they are always one step from pillaging.

>>136410705
using modern pictures of iberians is a bit of a strawman - the moors fucked over the genetics on the peninsula beyond recognition

>>136410749

Well, my family line was traced back to my great great grandparents in Australia, and then several generations back to England.

I still came out 50% Irish. So there is a lot of inter-potato fucking going on.

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>>136410775
If you say so. I don´t know personally anyone.

>>136410749
They can't keep their hands off of their cousins. That's why so many mass child graves are found on church properties in Ireland

Oh well lads soon there will be more blue eyed babies in the world.

My gf wants kids .(we both got blue eyes) I'm only 18 should I wait a bit to have kids?

>>136405887
Out of asia theory makes a lot more sense, especially when combined with multiple origin theory.

Out of Africa is demented, politically correct, fabricated idiocy from the 60s in America.
It doesn't correlate with any sanity whatsoever.

Negros remained an isolated species for a reason.

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>>136410592
This is pure conjecture on my part but I am 64% mix Irish/Highland Scot and 12% each English, Lithuanian, and Dutch (with a family tree going back past 500 years, I tested mainly to find out my haplogroups) and these are my 23andMe results. You are at the mercy of whomever interprets the data and I am almost positive they throw in surprises to get you to buy kits for parents.

Haplos:
E-V13
U5a2

>>136410705
>posting Theofaniz Gekas, a GREEK football player
>vasco
oh, boy....

>>136411079

>Already 18

>Waiting any longer

Enjoy your paltry 6 kid family.

>>136387624
omg albania

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>>136410954
What the fuck, this is how vasques look.
It is an example of the features I recognize as prevalent in vasques.

They are cute vasques, but they look like spaniards, like from Galicia.

>>136388206
Apparently a lot of the cromwell ireland stories are exaggerated if not false

>>136411052
She's a looker.

The reason for them all having the same haircut is so they can see clearly out of their third eye.

>>136411079
no, it's your duty to make lots of babies, the sooner you start the better

>>136411242
time will prove you right, it is already happening as well
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/

>>136411251

Well, the Irish part doesn't surprise me - that's clearly my fathers family (the surname is rare, with only a few hundred people globally registered with it, and according to the U.S. families who have it, it relates to the Norman conquest of Ireland).

My maternal side are from Southern England, with many of them from Wales, so the reuslts aren't that surprising.

Just weird that we could have been in England for so long and not fucked other English people - Just other Irish and Norman derived Welshmen.

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>>136384889
>tfw live in the same town as Tyson Fury and you see him and his pikey family often

>>136411508
Helo, fy brawd Cymreig o grombil.

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>>136411079
Do it, man. Best decision I ever made.

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>>136411412
kek

>>136410228
>White Niggers.
Wahlberg obviously isnt an Irish name, so who knows what the fuck he has in him. or maybe wahlberg was just his cuck daddy

>>136411254
I want around five kids. She wants two. Looks like I'm going have to poke some holes in the condom

>>136411508
Fair play, the NW European can probably be attributed to some English/Irish/Welsh. A set of my great grandparents were from Wales but I don't know much about Welsh genetics.

>>136399698
probably, but the southern welsh are different from the northern welsh anyway, so you cant really simplify it like that

>>136400239
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35344663
Stupid Celt.

>makes post about irish ppl
Pic doesnt have a single irish person in it

>>136411079
do it

>>136411839
Beautiful, mate.
>>136412284
Indeed. The "swarthy" Welsh are pretty rare when I'm from, and I'm from the South.

>>136412452
south-east or south-west?

>>136412364
"One third"; so... pretty much what I said, then. Right? The rest is Brythonic and possibly a bit of Norse. Nothing stupid about what I said, lad.

>>136411839
Your kids are ugly

>>136412573
see >>136405206

>>136412526
Cardiff. It's pretty much an Anglo colony, but the Welshers I've seen in Cardiff (I have Anglo and Eastern Euro heritage in addition to my majority Welsh, so it isn't accurate) have only brown hair, not proper swarthy features. However, the valleys seem to have lots of dark'uns.

>>136412670
Haplogroups don't determine ethnicity. They just determine the ethnicity of ONE ancestor of ONE line. Not very accurate.

>>136412598
Chink spotted.

Sorry these kids are worth more then 1 billion chinks. Now go eat some dog.

>>136412759
as a study it is very telling though, and it also gives you the scandinavian population mix as well in different parts, which also correlates with history

>>136384243
It's because they are Catholics.

>>136411447
With luck and enough sane people refusing to listen to the forced status quo, true science will be unveiled.

>>136412906
Well, it does show that you have ancestors of a certain ethnicity. Accordingly, you could prove that Englishmen have ANY Anglo-Saxon heritage, but ethnicity is a whole different issue.

>>136384243
If your ethnicity has a "mafia" then you are probably trash

>irish mafia
>italian mafia
>jewish mafia

ever heard of the english mafia or scottish mafia? exactly

>>136384243
I think they are sometimes thought of that way because they tend to drink a lot and be violent.

>>136412677
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landsker_Line

Wales is an interesting example of self imposed apartheid over a millennia.

>>136384243
nobody thinks irish aren't white except for bantz. although some gypsies definitely fall way behind the limit for acceptable white behaviour

>>136412573
Well you said were overwhelmingly Brythonic right? If we add the 33% Anglo to the 11% left by the Vikings and then take into account that the 33% is an average for the whole country as well as the fact that East was heavily occupied by Germanic invaders and is dragged down by the Celtic West, I don't think your statement is true.

>>136413125
>although ALL gypsies definitely fall way behind the limit for acceptable HUMAN behaviour
Fixed.

>>136413222
56% Brythonic is overwhelmingly Brythonic IMO.
>>136413093
It's hardly apartheid. We've been equal to Anglos since the Acts of Union under Henry VIII.

>>136413093
the history of that area goes back further than that - the apartheid was there for a reason
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Dyfed
>In the year 360, a sudden series of coordinated raids by the Irish, Anglo-Saxons and Picts began. These continued as the Irish colonised the Isle of Man (formerly Brittonic-speaking like Wales was) and resulted in a short period lasting until the 5th century during which Old Irish was spoken in the region: twenty stones dated to this period have ogham inscriptions.
seems like they were bullying the irish immigrants

>>136393546
The look. Like she hates you a little for what you did

American Women, as crazy as they may be, still ALWAYS come out on top due to superior American GENETICS. Europeans are the offspring of inferior betas that were either too scared to cross the ocean OR had no option due to the death of their string countrymen from the older generations, thus forcing European women to breed with the leftover coward betas because raping and pillaging became looked down upon although it only strengthens the race. Jews made whites feel guilty for raping each other in order to weaken them.

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>>136413874

Daily reminder 30% of uk population has at least one irish great grandparent

>>136413485
Yes but for the whole country, in the East and West its probably more like 60% and 20% Germanic respectively.

>>136394349
>start behaving as a human
>French

>>136413917
No way, mate. In Northern England, the most Anglo-Saxon area, it's about 45%, give or take a few. The lowest area is only about 30% IIRC.

>>136413909
POTATO'D

>>136394349


Same with the Irish part of my family

>>136414023

More like ANGLO'D

>>136414023
To be fair, Irish people probably have some English ancestry too.

>>136413505
How does it imply that we bullied the Irish immigrants?

>>136414181
yeah pretty much guaranteed, was only joking though

>>136414000
>The North
>Anglo-Saxon
The Angles, Saxons and Jutes migrated into the South and South East, and the Danes the North. You must know what the Danelaw was?

>>136414358
We're all mixed really. I wouldn't be surprised if the average Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman or Irishman has at least 2 recent ancestors from a different nation of the British Isles.