Recruited by Freemasons

>>136372498
He's telling you the truth.

t. Fellowcraft

>>136372498

Its the highest honor they can give you. It means you are part of a family and a crew. It means nobody can fuck around with you it also means you can fuck around with anybody so long as they aren't also a member.

>>136372707
did they really raise hiram from the dead??

>>136372840

huh?

>>136372498
if you get in, your eternal home is earth until the return of the messiah, upon which you'll spend the rest of eternity with satan. but you'll get all the earthly riches and shit because they do sorcery to obtain what they have

>>136372498
You can't be a Mason at 17. But that was nice of him to reach out to you while he was going through the old files. Most organizations won't admit wrongdoing and try to make it right, they'll just ignore something like that.

>>136372707
answer me, old soul

>>136373089

https://www.youtuve.com/LlQCW02Tbxc

they're desperate for new goy blood

>>136374135

That link didn't work but I searched for it.

lol

ARE YOU ALLOWED TO SMOKE WEEEED IF YOUR MASON?

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freemasons are good goys

>>136372498
I think it's pretty obvious. You can afford their dues and other expenses now.

So, they're happy to revive your application.

>>136372498
they were waiting for you to get some $$'s and THEN they "reply" to "invite" you to join thier club?... LOL anon, you really need US to confirm that greedy kike-lapdogs are milking you for the $$'s.
my.
sides.
gone.

As a mason (not a high ranking memeber, but still) to be recruited like that is quite rare.

Although I don't think it's played out exactly like you think. Someone maybe knew you, or knew of you. Either through your social media, your family or something like that. I've never seen someone randomly just be recruited like that, but I'm not saying it doesn't even happen.

Just fyi you won't be seeing anything strange or suspicious until you're much older and much higher established within the masons. I do like it though, it's a place where you can speak about politics and such things without fear of being ridiculed, because everyone (nearly) is on the same page. You get invited to golf outings, drinks and just social meetings all the time. If you ever need a job or anything, there's always someone who can help you.

I like it, though don't get any of your ideas from Hollywood films. It's basically a gentlemen's club for educated people.

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>>136372498

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>>136375942
did the old ones raise hiram after the flood??

>>136375942

Bro I don't have a facebook, twitter, or any other social media. Nobody in my family has been a Mason. Nobody I know has been a Mason.

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Join them and find out the truth.

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>>136376497
Enjoy it m8, could be something with your new job.
Was gonna head over myself to join in amd reas what knowledge they got. Planning to run for state so it might couple nicely for me. Best of luck, maybe you should try to become a politic too. Try for the next hitler amd see how it goes. I'll be joining in soon enough

>>136372498
It's funny how once you become rich someone suddenly wants to be your friend right? Almost like they probably do it because of the money and because they really care about you.
Did you also get calls from ex-gfs on how they want to be with you again?

>>136377171
*They don't really care about you

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Is it the Order of the Eastern Star?

>>136377171

Making six figures is not rich bro, I live in a 1 bedroom appt and I drive a pick up truck. If it was my job it was because it shows intelligence. They could take all the money I have and probably only pay their mortgages for 6 months.

You need to stay out of that nigga club.

>>136375942
How long does it take to see the weird shit? How do you ascend?

>>136377473
nah you're effectively middle class, and if you only love in an appt, you might rethink your living arrangements. buy a house.

>>136372498
They are a phallic worshiping group of sodomites. They are the traitors to the white race that go along with white genocide, gay agenda, race mixing agenda, etc, simply for worldly gain. They, along with ZOG military industrial complex intel orgs, run the pedo rings, the drug trafficing rings, the porn industry, etc. We need to form our own none sodomic secret or none secret, fraternal orgs.

Prepare to suck a lot of old man dick and be told made up stories by a bunch of parasites.

>>136372498
i definitely don't believe their excuse your app "slipped through"

some masonic lodges are just greedy since they're basically private communities for financial help, and other things

>>136373505
>eternal home is earth
does this mean I can't live in space?

>>136378148
>They, along with ZOG military industrial complex intel orgs, run the pedo rings, the drug trafficing rings, the porn industry, etc.
Aren't we trying to dissuade OP from joining them? That all sounds pretty cool.

>>136378550
Because that's not what they do sadly, they just liberate countries for Obscurantism.

>>136378148
Perhaps now with the jewish infiltration. But if you muse with me and think of each people having society as natural extension. You can see the thule group as beong the germans. The illuminati as the jews. And the mason as our guys, every founding father and president is a mason and there was a time whem Washington worried about the illuminati infiltration of europes masons. And as such expressed concerns anout future infiltration, although perhaps they'd need to be cleaned

its just a jokey meme at this point.

t. infini-gen FM

>>136372498
Search for the loop. In masonry there's always a loop. Your application had slipped through their cracks and if you join their dicks will slip through your cracks.

Brush up on Masonic handshakes before you go to your first meeting. You're welcome.

>>136374851
delete this

>>136372498
reach out to another lodge there should be more than one in your city we have 3 and asking for more

>>136378148
No, they are basically whites trying to be jewish. They create a community and perform their own rituals (like jews did to celebrate their holidays) and help each other. You can become a member (convert). They don't care in what you actually believe, as long as you take part in the rituals.

>>136372707
oh really then stfu then asshole only master masons can openly state they are mason . you need to have that cord put back around your neck and strangled

>>136379004
Topkek gypsy

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Has Masons figured out the Ultimate Question?

>>136372498

Mason here, we're shit at recruiting. Technically we're banned from recruiting people. People are supposed to join because they are sincerely interested in us, not because someone convinced them to do it. Because of this there are no formal recruitment programs for Masonic lodges, and we get little practice in building our numbers. So yeah this is irregular, because there is no regular recruitment program.

What's probably happened was the secretary of the lodge you sent a contact email too overlooked it, or ignored it outright. Lodge secretaries are elected by the lodge and unpaid, so they don't have a lot of incentive to do too much. Then a new secretary got elected, realized the prior guy never got back to you and reached out. In fact, the most likely explanation was that the old lodge secretary died. My experience with lodges is that the most active members and officers are old guys who have the free time to run shit. My old lodge secretary was a guy in his 70s who had the job for about 20 years because no one else wanted to do it.

>>136377323
That's for women pleb

>>136379475
Yup, they also build hospitals, have home for their elderly members, provide for their members widows, and did the american revolution

>>136379899
Basically the mason's retarded little brother

>>136372498
They're just (((humanists))) with some egyptian mythology. It's a fucking bogus scam to control the goyim.

>>136378550
>That all sounds pretty cool.
If you are spiritually vacuous and corrupt it might sound fun. To me it sounds like the work of the adversary.

>>136380080
Basically a way to keep women out without them bitching and trying to sue them.

>>136372498

Yeah tell him to fuck off.
Masons are all fucking homos sucking each other off and shit.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXDn43hoKJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E

this is all you need.

don't give your energy or money to a fucking jew lodge. true masonry or alchemy is when you care enough to know enough to act morally in every action of your life.

>>136372498
>6 figures.
sure me too buddy

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4chan is part of the great work. Deus Vault.

>>136372498
Why hasn't someone just found out whatever the fuck the 33rd degree mason knows and place it in a pdf. I don't have time to join this shit and find out after 50 years you only get free blowjobs from thai ladboys at that point.

>>136372498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3gJZw6X-LA

>>136372498
>What the flying fuck is going on?

pretty obvious they want as much money in their network as possible?

>>136372996
They bopped that nigga on the head cause he wouldn't tell them how to fit rocks together my dude

>>136380508
Gotta love Mark Passio, his decoding of symbols is brilliant.

>>136373911
You can DeMolay and a senior in high school can be 18.

Op, essentially this: I like it, though don't get any of your ideas from Hollywood films. It's basically a gentlemen's club for educated people.

You'll memorize a few paragraphs. Meetings will be highly ritualized affairs and pretty damn boring. There'll be cookouts and fund raisers. That's about it. Blue Lodge Masonry is essentially the same thing as joining the Lions Club.

>>136372498
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UpjPzdBaGo

>>136380766
It's not so complicated. I am a "Master" in european lodges, and the 33rd degree is only a way to have more and more power in other lodges. You are invited to dinners, sport celebrations, conferences, shows, etc. It's just a matter of power and influence. If you want it, and surely when you access this degree, you want to, if you want, you can contact politics or whatnot and discuss with them. This is the only influence we can have.

>>136376805
You could spend your life and never gain their upper levels of occult knowledge.

the moment you start making money they call.

Doesn't seem like a scam to me

>>136378840
I am aware that it was different at different times. I don't bash the founding fathers, though I'm suspicious of the whole enterprise. I'm suspicious of freedom of religion, for instance, because it paved the way for what we are seeing now, where mosques can be built and islam and judaism can't be banned. I think freedom of religion was a poison pill. Though, in the context of an ethnostate, which the US was supposed to be, freedom of religion is ok.

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Manly p hall can teach you much senpai. The lodge is a fellowship affair. Your inner life is yours.

Join a lodge like you would join a church in a sense.

>>136372498
Anon they just laughed at your app and put it aside, they dont care.

But now your making big bucks, that changes everything you see. Theres only one thing that makes a jew move, talk, eat, sleep, accept applications, and steal.

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>>136381151
>upper levels of occult knowledge
wasn't that propaganda that was spread by Freemasonry itself?
I mean what sort of idiot would try to learn "occult" stuff from another let alone trust them?

>>136372498
I've been a mason for 10 years now. He's telling you the truth. Nothing shady happening here. He saw you were interested at one time and decided to reach out thinking he had nothing to lose by trying. This isn't really surprising since membership is dropping all over the country. Lodges are having to merge or close down entirely because our generation of young adults is more interested in drinking and video games than they are social clubs and meeting new people.
If you decide to join you aren't going to be given any secret government conspiracy information or any other type of nonsense. The only secrets they have are the words and handshakes they use to identify each other.
It's more or less a social group that will likely have some aspect of helping the needy in the community. My lodge, for example, hands out food and presents to needy families on Christmas. If this sounds like something you'd be interested in go ahead and give it a shot.

If you join the Masons, how eternally damned is your soul from 1-10?

Seriously, are you going to burn in hell?

>>136381436
certainly not
hell I'm even sure those Scientologists just want to free peoples potential! I'm sure it's just badluck they can't get to everyone and purely a coincidence that they recruit richfags like actors

>>136381640
The difference being that you can't be a Christian while being a Free-Mason.

>>136372498
Yeah OP stop being retarded. The Masons are just an organization that benefits because of the contacts they have in business through their members. Now that you are successful and making bank they want to add you to the list of people they can force to do what they want if you were ever to join

>>136372498
>27 years old
>6 figures
fake and gay

>>136381640
Manly p hall is one freemason I won't bash. I've listened to more manly p hall than any other thinker. He was into this one world government bullshit though, and he must have had to go through the sexual humiliation rituals. Sad.

>>136378538
heaven

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>>136378148

>>136382099
Looks cheap as fuck almost like from a movie
Vatican is still the best secret society t.b.h

>>136372498
You are joining a fraternity of stonemasons/other vocational careers? Thats noice m8.

>>136375942
Lies lies lies.

Talking politics is extremely taboo in Freemasonry. I know this not only from family members who are Masons but the freemason website itself. Freemasons basically help you become a gentleman. It's essentially a charitable organization at this point. They donate about 2 million dollars each day. And there is no weird shit. It's roleplaying at its finest. The moron who wrote this knows nothing about the Masons and probably is a virgin who lives with his parents lol

>>136372498

You finally got contacted because you are making good money. Think of it this way. No one has ever heard of a poor Freemason.

>>136381939
>contacts they have in business through their members.
Not really. I know top ranking Masons who make minimum wage. Networking is networking regardless if where you do it. If you join an academic club at school, you are more likely to get business connections than through Freemasonry.

>>136378148

Take back the Catholic Church with a modern inquisition.

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If you request to be contact d a brother will contact you. Masonry does not solicit but that doesn't mean people stay within guidelines. It's just a bunch of kkkrackers. Hiram is the so called negro. Who is the master that will raise him out of his shallow grave in North America?

>>136383668

Boy oh boy, I wonder how many hours you've LARPed with that costume.

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One of their members probably wants to fug you.... or worse.

>>136379120
herzel?

>>136383668
what do you faggots even do?

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>>136383668
so you gotta be rich to join huh
fuck,guess I will just kill my self then

>there are people here who pretend to be Masons

I'm both an Orangeman and Mason so reading some people's theories are hilarious

>>136384930

gib basic enchilada

>>136374288
Pretty much this. Old Masons are dying out, they need new goy blood to keep themselves going.

>>136383024
You do not know "Top Ranking" masons who make minimum wage you lying sack of shit. That some of the biggest bs I've ever heard.

Jews are at the tip-top of the local lodges. The clueless fuks at the blue lodge think they are hot shit with the signs and handshakes. They serve their jew master at the top well while fukkin goy.

>>136372498
Secretly livestream the initiation for teh lulz

>>136372498
You should immediately kill yourself for trying to join the freemasons. You should first shoot your dick off for thinking of joining a luciferian brotherhood, and then shoot yourself in the face to finish the deal. You are trash. KYS

>>136384930
KYS pizza lover

ww2 Truman stalin and Churchill were 33rd freemasons. masons at the local lodge are dupes.

>>136384991
Old traditional rituals that have no real merit in today's society. You know all the local members and it can be handy (I was caught speeding when I passed my test years ago but the policeman who pulled me over was a fellow mason let me off).

The masonic hall is my town is literally just a drinking club 95% of the time though that is likely more attributed to the fact we are a small lodge and don't take it too seriously.

another Mason told the lodge that you were a successful person and would be a good candidate for the network. you didn't slip through the cracks, you just weren't Mason material at such a young age without an active Mason as a sponsor

>>136381688
uh occult knowledge is just hidden knowledge

Can someone please just fucking redpill me on the Masons? who the fuck are they? secret society? do they have power?

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>>136385453
>occult

>>136372498
Mason.
Can't answer that.
Ask someone, not that hard

>>136372840
>Its the highest honor they can give you. It means you are part of a family and a crew. It means nobody can fuck around with you it also means you can fuck around with anybody so long as they aren't also a member.

Alright Lefty, thanks.

>>136372498
It means they heard you've got money and now they want you to donate.
>t. 27 year old tradie, also slipped through the cracks for 5 years

>>136384806

33 here, not fucking much. It's like the Rotary Club.

The Shriners, though, holy shit those guys get down.

>>136385539
Just not be lazy and do some research.
Of course they have power.

>>136385189
You can't.
You're stripped of clothing, given a gown to wear, and blindfolded.

33rd degree masterrace here.

>>136374851
>>136378148
There's a different between masons and freemasons.

>>136381678
Gotta collect those goy fees.

What the absolute fuck is going on this thread
One would imagine /pol/ on most part would be against societies and exclusive clubs.

There is nothing inherently evil about the occult knowledge school of Free Masonry, it depends on how it's used.

>>136385923

Especially considering how fascism strongly opposes these societies. Where are the polfashies today?

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>>136372498

Bullshit.

>>136385708
piece of shit luciferian scum

>>136384806

Basically just donate to other orgs. It's just a fraternity anymore. Yeah there's the reading material and whatever but most of the time it's just middle aged dudes hanging out.

It's a bigass fraternity that has a slight monarchist slant.

>>136372498

If you are interested in religion, and in particular King Soloman's temple and want to LARP as various people who built the temple then you might enjoy it. I've been involved in similar occult groups and I've enjoyed it. Every-time you go up a degree you don't know what's going to happen in that ritual which is part of the excitement.

It does require you believe in God, and it's best for Jews, Christians and moderate Muslims, it doesn't make much sense to LARP as King Soloman's temple builders if you are a Buddhist.

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>>136372498
all masons are going to the gas chamber. soon.

>>136372498
Multiple family members of mine are in the Freemasonry, to my knowledge from the few things I've picked up (it's a secret club, and they literally call it ''the club''), it's full of mostly influential people who have some sort of power in everyday life. They say they're in it to enlighten the broader public, whatever the fuck that means. They go to lectures mostly about different subjects, rituals etc. I found a necklace at that had the broad lines like in OP's picture, the pendant was a star and in it, it had a book with the inscription 'holy bible'. Even though their 'club' is atheist so idk what that's about. Anyway it's mostly just influential people stroking eachother's ego on a weekly basis.

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>>136372840
>joining for favors instead of for the Craft
you're the kinda' cuck that would put the emblem on your car just to show people how badass you are for being in the """"super sekret klub""""

step the fuck up senpai, and stop being an exoteric neophyte

>>136372498
they want your money

>>136372840
we walked into the lodge like we owned the place

>>136386047
Look at that Australians reply
>Its just LARPing dude
>The rituals are real wacky dude, dont know what is gonna happen!
>Its just based Jews, Muslims and Christians hanging out
Is this thread LARP in it self or am I missing something?

>>136386049
No seriously.
The original name 'masons' ended up being infiltrated by the illuminati and shit; (See george washingtons take on that) so the freemasons was founded. Technically two different groups that both end up just calling themselves masons for short

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>>136382522
Some buidings are better than others, but the most secret rooms are always small.

What's so magic about the number 33?

>>136381981
I'm 27 and I make $140k annually. That's technically 6 figures. I've broke $100k for the last 9 years

>>136386694
11 * 3

But don't think that 33rd is really the highest degree attainable.

Opinions on Memphis Rites? I heard they way, way more emphasis on the esotericism and spiritual discipline, and there's a Memphis Lodge in town.

>>136386694
It represents the 1/3 of the fallen angels.

>>136386672
The Original Masons, we're the men who traveled back to Israel to rebuild the Temple. They were a new breed, warrior/craftsmen, able to build and defend themselves at the same time.

Their work still stands. It's the infamous wall of tears that Jews still pray to.

I love mysterious stuff like this that is linked to religion. Anymore redpills?

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>>136386474
Put your index finger over the eye at the top of the pyramid. It's a butt hole. It's a sodomy club.

>>136386808
I know about the x3 thing.
But what about the 11? Something about the great work being completed?

>>136372498

All they see is cash. They'll load you up with pedo sex and then you'll be their running bitch for the next 35 years.

>>136372498

Masonry is daemonic.

>But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.
Matthew 5:37

>Above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear--not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. All you need to say is a simple "Yes" or "No." Otherwise you will be condemned.
James 5:12

>>136387041
Sort of, but it's a bit more nuanced. I think one of the keys is that it is representative of Boaz and Jachin.

>>136372840
so, basically it's like joining the Telvanni?

weren't they kinda... i dunno, evil?

>>136387575
Seems like something I have to look up. Thanks, appreciate the answer.

>>136387036
>Annuit Coeptis
>Anus Cops
holy shit

>>136372498
>What the flying fuck is going on? I know a little about hte Masons and this seems irregular as fuck.

it's normal, places are full of old guys who forget shit, go join and redpill everyone about how Solomon was the first communist

>>136388219
Anus can mean old/elderly woman in old latin though. I prefer those anus cops. Better mental image.

>>136372498
American Mason lodges are a joke my dude. They accept anyone and everyone who comes right off the street. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you did just slip through the cracks.

>>136380883
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I've considered applying for the Odd Fellows. They're basically Masons but more lax and seem to do more fun stuff in my area than the Masons but have different rituals.

>>136387036
>It's a sodomy club.

that thing about sodomy and occult ritual

E: Marion, where I want to start is with your statement that the presence of Elohim spirits usually indicate Freemasonic programming that is installed by sodomy. Does that ring a bell?

M: Yes, it does, and I would like to broaden that a little bit. Ron Patton once did an article on Monarch programming. Based on what you might call research or what I have discovered in maybe 500 people over a period of ten years -- I’m just guessing because I don’t keep records -- this is my impression: the most vulnerable age for preparing a person for mind control is between two and four years of age because of the development of the child’s mind at that age. Traumatic things can damage them worse than if they were younger or older. Also, in order to be programmable there needs to be a change in the way their mind works between two and four. That change can only be achieved by sodomy.

E: What is it about sodomy that does that?

M: It attacks the nerves at the base of the spine and causes something neurological to happen within the brain. It also has a spiritual, demonic component to it that affects the person’s mind in a way that nothing else will, as near as I can tell. In other words, I would state it this way: for a person to be able to develop multiple personalities, they would have to be sodomized between two and four.

E: For all multiple personality disorders?

M: As far as I know. It’s not commonly told this way because sodomy puts in a deaf and dumb spirit and causes memory loss so that some people may remember occult rituals but won’t remember the sodomy. But sodomy is the foundation of the whole thing. It is called “the key of David”1 by the Rothschild Illuminati.

>>136388686
E: When you say Rothschild Illuminati, you’re not talking about just the Rothschild family?

M: No, I’m talking about all of the occult people all over the world. This goes back to Nimrod. This is the Egyptian initiation of the child to open the third eye.

E: Are you saying that back in Egypt in 3000 B.C.E., when the priesthood was at its peak, they were using sodomy for their initiations?

M: As far as I know, sodomy is always used in the occult going clear back before the Flood. Sodomy is Satan’s sex or Satan’s new birth of the child. I don’t believe anybody can become fully illuminated unless they have been sodomized at around three years of age. If they wait to touch that person until they’re ten, twelve, fifteen years old, they will never be fully illuminated because you can’t open the third eye after about five or six years of age.

E: The third eye meaning the pineal gland between the eyes?

M: Yes. I have traced migraine headaches from anal sex. It comes up the spine, over the back of the head right into the forehead.

E: All migraines, or --

M: No, I’m not saying all migraine headaches are from sodomy because I had one once that was put on me by a retired chiropractor and he did not sodomize me. But I think he was a sodomite. Basically, Satan cannot sodomize someone on his own, but he can influence somebody to sodomize someone else and then it’s like having Satan sodomize them and put the sodomy power within them. Sodomy is spiritual. I get intense about this because it is so clear, and the Bible is the best source for discovering this.

>>136388741

E: Regarding Illuminati and Rothschild --

M: Let’s leave Rothschild out of this. Not everybody is Rothschild unless you are using Rothschild as a loose term like Illuminati. With Illuminati referring to the wider spectrum, there is a Rothschild element and a Masonic element, but probably as sinister as any is the Jesuit element. I cannot prove this, I wish I could, but I believe that to become a full-fledged Jesuit you would have had to have been sodomized by the time you were three years of age. I believe they’re all sodomites.

E: The entire Society of Jesus?

M: I don’t think you can become powerful in the Society of Jesus without being involved in sodomy at some point in time.

E: Marion, when you say the third eye, I think of the ability to see visions, to see things we normally can’t. Is that what you’re talking about?

M: To make a mystic with those capabilities requires sodomy because sodomy changes the way the mind works; it opens the mind up to the spirit world.

E: So it’s the same effect on male or female children?

M: Absolutely, and you never know what the effect is going to be. One might be one way and one another, but to be able to become a mystic, whether it’s a Catholic mystic or any other kind of mystic, that is the route to go. I call that the Legion mindset.

E: Let’s go back to the Elohim and Legion. What are the differences?

M: The Legion mindset has the Strong Man spirit in it. It’s like the House of the Strong Man: its foundation can develop into a mystic, or into multiple personalities. The Legion mindset would be what Alice in Wonderland is all about. The Elohim spirit is just one small item.

>>136388796
E: But they’re inserted through sodomy, as well?

M: Yes. I think the spirit called Elohim in people who have gone through Masonic ceremonies enters with sodomy.

E: But the word Elohim in the Old Testament is actually a good word --

M: Not always, because the word means “spirit.” I think if you check the original, when Samuel came up, the witch of Endor said she saw the Elohim coming up. So she saw the spirit coming up, not God Almighty. In the occult world, they have many Elohim. Why do you think that Wicca’s magic circle has the name Elohim and Adonai? Do you think that’s God Almighty? I don’t think so.

E: So they may have spirits that are stand-ins for other --

M: Basically, the sodomy spirits would call themselves the I AM spirits. When you have someone who has a sodomy spirit, that sodomy spirit claims to be God. So then it’s just the next step to use the names that we associate with God. Mormonism says that Elohim had sex with Mary to birth Jesus. Do you think that was Almighty God? I don’t think so. Joseph Smith was a peepstone gazer; he had the third eye open. He was a molester, had been a Mason and copied Masonic ceremonies for the Temple ceremonies.

E: From what you have learned from the people you have deprogrammed -- you don’t like that word, do you?

M: You can use the word deprogramming, but it is used in circles that are not Christian, and basically a lot of what they call deprogramming is reprogramming. I like to think of it as changing a mindset. But go ahead and ask your question.

>>136388868
E: I’m trying to establish a relationship between the Illuminati and Freemasons.

M: Okay. In the true sense of the word, Illuminati is a class of people that have illumination in common. In the political sense, you might have people who have joined an organization called the Illuminati -- like being a Democrat or a Republican. But in the true sense of the word, the Illuminati refers to enlightened or illuminated ones.

E: And they can be from any brotherhood or organization?

M: Yes.

E: And they have gone through some sort of initiation for that?

M: In a spiritual sense, they have been illuminated or initiated into the illumination of Lucifer. The initiation into the light of Lucifer is achieved by sodomy of the three year old. However, if that person does not follow through, he can become a dud -- he doesn’t go anywhere, so he hasn’t really risen to any rank within the movement of the body of the Illuminati. They have certain degrees associated with being a high-level Illuminati -- you wouldn’t get there simply by being initiated as a three year old. The initiation of the three year old is the beginning requirement of someday rising up into the ranks of a group that is considered to be the Illuminati. A lot of people think of the Illuminati as being a political group of people, but in another sense it’s a brotherhood of sodomites that’s like family.

E: When you say ‘like family,’ are some blood related and most not?

M: I’m saying sodomites feel a family bond, whether related or not.

E: Sodomites -- Illuminati or otherwise. Is sodomy ritually continued after three years old?

M: Let me try to explain it this way. Who is the Bride of Christ or who is the Church? Everybody who is truly born again is in the kingdom or family of God, right?

>>136388686
That's not a credible source at all. I read the whole thing one time. This guy is literally is obsessed with sodomy. Post the whole thing.

>>136388905
E: Uh-huh.

M: That is THE Church, right? But then you’ve got Methodists, Baptists, Nazarenes and all these different groups. The Illuminati is Lucifer’s church, the mystical body of Satan.

E: Is sodomy like communion for them?

M: No, sodomy is like being born again.

E: Do they do it over and over?

M: Yes, but especially in intense programming, like Monarch or mind control programming, sodomy is used over and over and over. Those who have programmers or keepers, they’re using sodomy all the time to keep the person in line.

E: Is sodomy a threat or is it pleasurable to the sodomized?

M: Those who have been programmed have a locked-in three-year-old mindset which is the core of the programming. Say they’re eighteen or twenty years old and somebody comes up and knows the signal or says the code word to call out the three-year-old core. The person then goes into the three-year-old state to be sodomized, then the sodomites program into their minds what they want to program in, and when that person wakes up they probably don’t even remember that anything happened. Basically, a person reverts back to the three year old to be a total victim to the sodomy.

>>136388939
There are many ramifications of this. If you read the book by Cathy O’Brien, she says that a high-level politician gave her messages to take to the King of Saudi Arabia. The politician would access her sex alter, repeat the message, bring her out of that sex alter, ship her overseas, and when she got there the King would access her sex alter and get the message word for word from the high-level politician and return an answer. That basically is a picture -- she didn’t say it was sodomy but that’s what they do. Sodomy puts them into a trance where you can program in directly to the subconscious memory file without any interference of the conscious mind. Sodomy is what puts the person into that state where you can do it. They might even get them so highly programmed that they can just say the word or repeat the code.

E: Can you use sodomy for programming after childhood?

M: You can program a 50-year-old person with sodomy.

E: But would you have had to have done it at least once when they were small?

M: To get a mind control slave, yes. You can’t take a 20-year-old person and make a mind control slave out of them by waiting until they’re 20 years old to do it. To program them like TV and movies do -- you could not make a Monarch programmed person if you hadn’t started with them as a child.

E: Have victims actually used the word Monarch to describe their programming?

M: One of the people I worked with came up with the idea that the wings of the monarch butterfly are actually the pelvic skeletal shape. Then if you add sodomy, you add the abdomen of the butterfly. The other thing about Monarch would be that these people are told they are royalty or “chosen ones,” given that a lot of bloodline families in power in the United States claim to be descendants of European royalty or descendants of monarchs. You could look at it that way. I say that Monarch programming is basically sodomy programming.

>>136373505
Que?

>>136388986
Some people are being kept in bondage by sodomizing themselves -- [Here the telephone turns into static that takes several minutes to rectify.] -- sodomy is used to re-boot the computer and reactivate the programming.

E: Do you think this is at all behind the big push to accept homosexuality as normal?

M: Of course.

E: Do you think all homosexuals are sodomized early?

M: I don’t think that very many homosexuals become homosexual without being sexually abused early. They may not all have been sodomized, but a large portion were.

As far as religions go, Catholics and Masons are at the top of the list. It’s possible that the Catholic hierarchy may even have an unofficial doctrine to sodomize three year olds so as to bind them to the Church. They say, “Give us a child until he’s five and he’ll always be Catholic,” but they don’t start any religious training with the children until they’re five. I recently freed a guy who was sodomized by a priest when he was probably three and then at thirteen was put in Boys Town in Nebraska, and the priest there would take him into a room, lock the doors, and make him do whatever he wanted him to do. A first-hand witness of the corruption at Boys Town.

E: What about Skull and Bones, Scroll and Key -- fraternities of elite sons -- do you suppose they’re using sodomy as well to make deep bonds for the sake of money and power in the families?

M: I can’t imagine they haven’t. What is Skull and Bones anyway but the order of death? Why are they doing things connected with the dead? Sodomy is the biggest occult power source there is, so how did they get their power without it? I was not there, I was never invited to go there, I could not have gone there because I was never a victim of sodomy as a child. Now, the Masons do recruit people who are innocent bystanders just for the image and the dues. But the real driving force of the Masons are the sodomites, just check the de Molay thing.

E: Tell me a little more about the deep bond that forms among men because of sodomy.

M: Let me tell you a little story. I have been trying to help a woman for the last five years to get free of the bondage and victimization that began when she was a child. She was married to a guy who’s wealthy and works for Nike, and is also a cross-dresser. I even met with the cross-dresser and uncovered that his grandpa was a Mason who treated him like a little girl and sodomized him. This was from his mind, not mine -- but he didn’t want to believe it and get right. They have four children, and she’s been sitting there with the damage to the children.

She’d been trying to get something to pin on him, like his pornography on the internet, but he always lied his way out of everything. I called her out of the blue the other day and she had filed for divorce but still didn’t have anything on him. So I said, “Do you suppose you might have a spirit of his, like the Strong Man?” So I checked it out and the answer that came from her mind was that the spirit of her husband had entered her on her wedding night by sodomy. All she can remember is that the wedding night was a bad night. I cast it out. She had a bright red rash on her when we were talking about this, but when I cast out the Strong Man spirit with her husband’s name, put in with sodomy, within minutes the rash was completely gone.

>>136389109
Within the week, she happened to be at her husband’s new house where the daughter was, and the daughter said, “Let me show you something.” They went into a big walk-in closet where there was a suitcase with another locked suitcase in it. The daughter got the key, opened up the little suitcase, and there were women’s paraphernalia, lingerie, even the tool to sodomize himself. She could not find any evidence on that guy until I got rid of that spirit of sodomy from him. Her eyes and the daughter’s eyes were opened.

Sodomy has a spiritual component in it that is far more sinister than anybody recognizes. It is the most underrated evil power to the general public. But to the people who are in the know, they know that this is the ultimate rebellion against God Himself. This is what they hope to use to gain the whole human race for their side and defeat God Himself.

E: I’m convinced you’re right that for both mind control and male bonds of power, sodomy is somehow key. What about another brotherhood, the Special Forces -- Navy SEALS, Green Berets -- elite cadres?

M: From what I can gather, I believe they are chosen because the men start out as victims as three year olds. I worked to help get a guy free whose mother ran a topless bar down in California and he had a tremendous internal rage. He didn’t do very well in school and he had his problems with drugs, but a guy came along and got him a full ride of four years at West Point. He should never have gotten in there. He went in on a football scholarship, but when they got him in there they switched him to a boxing scholarship because when he got into boxing, the rage could be turned on. He heard that some of the initiations coming up in the second West Point year included sodomy. I don’t know that they subjected him to sodomy, but he quit before he went more than one year.

>>136389140
Just like in war, where traumatic things happen that soldiers can’t remember, this is what sodomy does to the child. The denial system that kicks in produces at least in some people the ability to compartmentalize. When you compartmentalize, you can be in a certain compartment of your mind without detracting from other compartments of your mind. If you’re in the pure rage compartment, you don’t have any kindness or love diluting it.

E: So in the profiling that the military might use in order to find a man who fits the untapped rage pattern --

M: I could make a profile! I could take a few victims that are healed and sit them down beside me and we could bring the people through an interview and we could profile them.

E: Why do I think this programming through sodomy acts so much more powerfully on males than on females?

M: It doesn’t, but males and females are different. Females are best for becoming programmed computers or human recorders. Most women are more capable of creating multiple personality systems because of the way their minds work. But the fact is that men are more aggressive, so the percentage of women who are sodomized and become perpetrators is far lower than the percentage of men who become perpetrators. They’re all victims to start with, but women just go on being victims, they don’t tend to turn into perpetrators themselves. I’ve worked with men who did not become perpetrators and remained victims, just like the women; and I’ve seen evidence of women who became perpetrators. Witches are perpetrators and just like men, they’re molesters. I’ve worked with people who had women sodomizing them with objects, molesting children.

>>136389140
But the percentage is lower with women than it is men. A higher percentage of men will transition from victim to perpetrator. And I’m convinced that there are some men who compartmentalize in such a way that they do not on the average remember acts of molesting; they will only remember if they get into that compartment. Otherwise, they have amnesiac barriers between the different compartments of their minds. Women are that way, too. A perpetrator with an amnesiac barrier is a sad, sad case because they can switch into that compartment and go out and molest, then switch out and not remember. This is the kind of person they use in Special Forces for their assassination teams because they can activate the hidden compartment that has been programmed for assassination and send them out on a mission. A man who claimed to have been in the South African Special Forces told me of two cases where he was sent to assassinate, one in a national park in South Africa, and another in London.

E: So sodomy doesn’t need to be used; the trigger word can just be used to activate that compartment.

M: I don’t know. I think that they could use sodomy and make them forget the whole thing. People have been sodomized and they couldn’t remember for three or six months after it had happened. We didn’t know what was wrong with them, and then later found out somebody took them out and sodomized them.

>>136389181
Sodomy is a spiritual thing. Let’s say Ben sodomizes either a man or woman. When he does that, that person has a spirit by the name of Ben that changes the way that person relates to things. This can even be as an adult. You can’t put the Legion mindset in when they’re 40 years old, but you can put Ben in when they’re 40 years old and it will change the way that person thinks. I’ve had different women who separated from abusive husbands and for some reason couldn’t break loose of the soul tie to their husband, but when we cast out the sodomy spirit by their husband’s name, their feelings about their ex-husbands changed. The most classic example is the lady who had slept with her husband before they were married, committed adultery at 40 years of age, and when I commanded the Strong Man to give its name it was her husband’s name that entered at 40 when he sodomized her. That spirit of sodomy was more damaging to her than the spirit of adultery or fornication.

E: What is the relationship between sodomy and the House of the Strong Man?

M: If a person is sodomized, the Strong Man spirit that Jesus spoke of will be the spirit of the sodomy. It’s actually an unclean spirit and a familiar spirit with the name of the person who did the sodomy. So when you sodomize a three year old, you build the doll house with the three year old trapped inside, and every time that person is sodomized from that point on a Strong Man enters. So let’s just say Joseph sodomized the child -- now Joseph and the three-year-old child are in the house locked in the core of the mind. Along comes Jack and sodomizes the girl later -- now, there’s Joseph, the child, and Jack. Then comes Ben later, then comes Sterling, then comes Red, then comes this guy and that guy -- you’ve got a whole legion of sodomites and every one of them has a name, which means that you’ve got many spirits of the sodomites in the House of Joseph the Strong Man,

>>136389109
Friendly reminder the guy that wrote this thinks if you could fuck 'God' in the ass, you would become more powerful than him.

>>136389224
the original sodomizer.

E: You’re being literal when you say spirit -- that the dissociation that creates multiples is the entry of one spirit after another.

M: Well, some people would like to say that multiple personalities are not spirits. I would like to say that the whole multiple mindset is a demonic mindset, basically a Legion-style mindset of many, the same as the man in Mark 5 said: “My name is Legion, for we are many,” and Jesus released them all at once. For the benefit of anybody who was looking on, two thousand pigs went crazy and drowned while the man was again clothed and in his right mind. So basically all of his legion of spirits, multiple personalities, or anything you want to call them, all were gone and his mind was right. The whole multiple mindset is a wrong mindset. It’s a fantasy world mindset.

E: But it’s not necessarily possession by demonic spirits?

M: If you got rid of every demon that multiple personality people have, they would no longer be multiple.

E: So therapists who allow certain helpers or child alters to remain, they’re not doing a service to the person?

M: The person can’t get free as long as they have any of that left because their mind is not working like God intended it to work.

E: So with each sodomy the House of the Strong Man gets stronger and stronger?

M: That’s right.

>>136372498
The freemasons are nothing more than mediocre social climbers who areally controlled by Jewish interests.

>>136372498
old men with nothing better to do, your time is better served posting here than doing nothing there.

>>136389270
E: With a believer who can accept that Jesus Christ can deliver them all at once, you have been able to free people from the House of the Strong Man?

M: I’ve had it happen on quite a number of occasions, not every time. There’s some times that I never did get them to leave.

E: With non-believers or believers as well?

M: Well, people who said they were believers. But it’s possible to have a compartment of your mind that’s a believer and another compartment that is a sodomite. So what are you? A lot of people do not believe me when I say that you can cast out the Strong Man, the child, and all of the multiple system at once. But I’ve done it, by the grace of God -- Jesus did it, and others have done it. So why would I spend my time with some lesser kind of benefit if I already know that the ultimate goal is to achieve what I just described?

I had a man once who was crazy. He had worked for twelve years to try to get free but was ready to kill his wife. He couldn’t work, his marriage was on the rocks, he was at the point of being committed. Somebody told him about me and I finally found a spot for him to come. I didn’t know anything about him. I met with him one day, uncovered that Joseph was the Strong Man, that he was Rothschild bloodline and they had used him as a male prostitute, sodomized him as a boy in rituals to get the power of the bloodline. I cast the whole thing out in one day. He didn’t talk to me again for two years. He got well, he’s still well.

freemasons is just an old mans social club for people with money. You meet up. Perfrom some rituals and chat with members after rituals and go home.

It's a rich and secretive gentleman's club without women(but some lodges allows women)

>>136389329
Two years later he and his wife came and told me the good things that had happened. He went to his 6,000-member church to give his testimony of getting well and they wouldn’t even let him use my name because they had believed negative propaganda about me. He could give his testimony but all he could say was he met with a man -- couldn’t use my name. I asked him, “What’d I do different from the rest?” He said, “They went after the stronghold, you went after the Strong Man.”

E: When you find out that the name of the Strong Man is Joseph, are you thinking it’s Mengele?

M: No. Joseph Mengele was THE biggest Joseph in the last half of the 20th century, but the name Joseph came out of the Jesuits and has been around since the 1500’s. It started with devotion to the husband of Mary, whom they call St. Joseph, and it became a symbol of the father of this system, the sodomizing father that cares for his children. When a man sodomizes a child at three, the child bonds to that man as if he were their father, and when he’s a man of the cloth, of the Church, the child bonds to the Church, too. This sodomy thing has been around for hundreds of years. Ignatius Loyola, founder of the Jesuits, was a Catholic mystic; he had to have been a sodomized one. He was the guy who headed up the Inquisition to persecute those who didn’t adhere to the tenets of the Catholic faith. Terribly cruel! How could you be that cruel if you didn’t have the sodomy rage? The torture they put people through! Later, Joseph Mengele developed the programming and brought it up to another level. He was a Catholic alter boy. I think he was also a Rothschild and a Jesuit. The founder of the Illuminati was Adam Weishaupt, trained as a Jesuit.

>>136389390
E: Sodomy stands behind multiplicity --

M: I haven’t found anybody who was just sexually fondled and became multiple, and I’ve never found anybody who went through occult rituals without sodomy. So I can’t tell you whether being put through a sacrifice ritual without sodomy makes a multiple. People are trying to say that would be the case -- that the ritual murders and sacrifices are traumatic enough to produce MPD -- but I’ve never found a case out there that only had sacrifice. They’ve always had the sodomy. They don’t always remember it, but when push comes to shove, they’ve got the symptoms. The occult groups know -- and they think all Christians are stupid and can’t catch on -- they know that sodomy is required to achieve what they want to achieve.

If you check this thing out, you’ll find that all the idolatry going clear back to the days of the children of Israel in Egypt have sodomy in it. Jesus said:

And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot: they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; but the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. (Luke 17:26-30, KJV)

>>136389248
I see no mistakes in his logic.

>>136389424
Nothing wrong with marrying, buying and selling; every civilization does it. What’s the common denominator of these three times? We have more sodomy now out in the open than we’ve ever had. Lot was in Sodom -- that’s where the word sodomy comes from. It meant anal sex, or as they’re calling it now anal intercourse. What other kind of sex do you think they could produce on those angels that they tried to break the door down to get to? They wanted to get their supernatural power. The belief in the occult world is if you could sodomize God, you’d get God’s power. You become as gods through sodomy; that’s the way the Greek gods became gods. Alexander the Great was a great sodomizer and his Greek army was the most fierce. Hitler tried to pattern his SS and military after the Greek warriors using sodomy. When you put that all together, the civilizations that God wiped out boiled down to the practice of sodomy.

By the way, I’ve found that a lot of people’s hemorrhoid problems came from their sodomy.

E: So sodomy is a lot more common than people give it credit for.

M: Now they’re putting sodomy pornography on the internet. I met a lady who had a web cam set up in her home for the internet and would sodomize herself in the nude for the guys out there to watch. She had been a church secretary.

E: Is sodomy the connecting link between satanism, Freemasonry, and other groups, including Jesuits?

M: You remember Aleister Crowley. He was a 33rd degree Mason. I talked to Bill Schnoebelen one time and asked him, “Where did the Masons get the sodomy?” and he said, “It came by Aleister Crowley from black magic Hinduism.” Well, that isn’t the only place it came from.

>>136372498
It's a shitty social club for old people you autists.

>>136389450
E: Have you run across more satanic stuff now? It seems rife, or has it always been around about the same amount?

M: As far as American society is concerned, it’s increasing. As far as Masonry and a certain element they call Black Masonry, it’s been around all the time. I don’t use the term Satanism quite as much because the Masons would be more Luciferian rather than Satanist.

E: What is the difference between Satan and Lucifer?

M: Same person, but Jesus said Satan comes either as an angel of light or as a roaring lion. Satanism is the roaring lion principle, Luciferianism is the angel of light principle. Basically, in Masonry the white and black checkered floor is the light and dark balancing factor.

In the Bible, sodomy is translated as “uncleanness.” In Job 36:13-14, it says that hypocrites in heart die young and live among the unclean. If you take what’s in the margin of the King James or New King James and re-read the verse, it would read like this: The hypocrites in heart, their souls die and they live amongst the sodomites. Sodomy kills the soul, destroys the soul. Romans 1 describes the route to having a reprobate mind. It’s a progression:

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves...

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity: whisperers,
Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

>>136389498
Without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Rom. 1:24, 28-32, KJ)

So all kinds of things happen when they go into perversion.

E: People talk about aliens. What is their relationship with demons?

M: I had a guy working for me whose brother-in-law works at Area 51. Top secret, can’t talk. This guy who worked for me asked his brother-in-law, “What about the alien thing?” He said, “The Stealth bomber is our most advanced technology that the American public is aware of and it was developed 30 years ago. What do you think they have now?”

I think the alien thing is a cover scheme made up by these Area 51 people. The second thing I notice is that most of the people who believe in aliens say that their first abduction occurred around three years of age. There are so many similarities to occult ritual abuse that -- Whenever you put together sodomy and ritual abuse, the demons are going to be layered in. They give you a new mindset at three years of age, the fantasy world. This is what the whole alien thing is all about. There’s no such thing as aliens from other planets. There’s demons.

E: How do you picture where demons live?

M: The demon is a figment of your mind, it lives in your mind.

E: Is its origin in your mind as well?

>>136389498
M: You take a three-year-old child, untouched. Somebody sodomizes the child, the guy’s name is Joe. Now, all of a sudden the child has a sodomy demon called Joseph riding with him. That thing was conceived or reproduced from the Joseph demon that the man had who sodomized that child. Where’d it come from? It was birthed in the child’s mind by the act. It didn’t have to come from anywhere; it just was birthed, reproduced right there. The child was given a copy. Joe is like a copy machine that can reproduce another copy. I don’t feel all demons are that way, but that kind are. They don’t live in the bloodstream, they don’t live in the genes; they live in the mind.

E: Is sodomy worse than incest?

M: A lot of the incest that’s occurring is sodomy. I’ve heard that in Mexico Mexican fathers sodomize their daughters to be able to control them and bond them to the family, but they don’t give them vaginal sex so they can preserve them as virgins for their husbands. What a crock of bull! I’m convinced that Muslim hatred for non-Muslims comes from sodomy. Their rage has to come from sodomy.

E: I’ve heard that sodomy is rampant among Muslims, but I thought it was because of the laws that support revenge against men who make advances on women -- that this Muslim law is what makes them turn to boys. But you think it’s more than that?

M: Of course. Why would any normal man turn to boys? Even with those laws, I wouldn’t turn to boys.

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>>136389529
E: So men are conditioned because they’re sodomized as children?

M: I think so. One guy I know knew a Saudi who said that over there women are for children and men are for love. The violence and hatred in that kind of stuff is produced by sodomy; it produces the internal rage.

The massive buildup of Star Wars-type technology way beyond anything that they’re using for international policing is being developed in order to defeat Jesus Christ so the sodomites can take over the world. Satan can’t do it, so he’s using men to come up with the idea to try and do it. I know that what I’m saying is tremendously radical, but in the end the Lord Jesus Christ will win (Revelations 19 and 20).

>>136372498
daily fagmason recruitment post. fag masons were too busy raping children and are now desperate for ring lickers with tech skills.

>>136389690
I think if Masons were wanting to recruit they'd aim for something a little more high brow than /pol/.

>>136374851
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>>136374851
People need to understand this.

Freemasonry = Good Goy Zionist slave.

They use the lure of mystery to make you throw away your God, your ideology, your nation, and your soul. It is pure degeneracy, and anyone who pretends otherwise is defending their own exploitation at the hands of Jews.

>>136389447
Fair enough.

>>136386805
You are over 100k$ since you are 18? Which job are you doing?

>>136382222
Checked

>>136373505
what a nasty idea of punishment... locking the soul spawn point to earth... or shall i say hell ?

flat earth 200 proofs -dubay

>>136389900
that's default though

they've targeted your butthole for a butt slapping session

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>>136383421
Or just accelerate the inevitable schism of the Roman Church between the modernist leadership and the traditionalists, and have the traditionalists return to the Orthodox communion.

>>136372498

They want your dollars. Duh.

>>136389838
you're a dumb nigger.

>>136378148
I would be up for joining a non-sodomitic secret lodge of some kind. Lord knows there are enough of the other variety.

>>136379661
He's not openly stating anything, this is /pol/.

>>136372498
I say join. They truly rule the world. I say seek power.

>>136390265
just put chilisauce on your orifices, problem solved

If you value your immortal soul you will steer absolutely clear of this group. My father was 32nd Degree Mason. And that's all I got to say on that.

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>>136390240
I'm pretty sure that you're a Mexican or Mexican descendant
Calm down burger guy... the US is the most mixed country around here

the stupid fukkin goy freemasons at the lodge are selling out their town, a fukkin jew shows up from out of state and is name chief of police and mayor. stupid fukkin lodge goy dupes.

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>>136372840

>>136390535
They often target their own with assassination to send a message to other masons not to stray from the path. That's why all these celebs are always being found with drug overdoses and such. They said or did the wrong thing. They will ask you to do things which you have to do even if you don't want to. That's where the idea of "an offer you can't refuse" comes from. For instance, the bruce jenner transformation was likely a freemasonic ritual to be seen by the public. It probably wasn't even his idea. If he were to refuse, one of his kids would be found with a drug overdose or be involved in a suspicious car accident. Also, race mixing is one of there main agendas, so the whole kardasian mudshark phenomena was all likely scripted to influence young girls to race mix.

>>136391629
That's quite wild.
What I can see is that they control the political parties here.

I've thought about joining to get ahead in life but kinda of afraid of what you said.

>>136372840
Wrong, the organization itself can fuck with you. Also, the one who set forth the universe can and will fuck with you.

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>>136376497
You will never make it to the high ranks.

They will just use you for your money. You will always be a low level mason if you join.

For that low level (bloodlines are VERY important) you will take oaths that will damn you to hell. Not a good bargain. I wouldn't accept it.

>>136372498
Dont you worry we will find you and gas you like last time :)

>>136372840
You're a funny guy.

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>>136372498
from The secret teaching of all ages by Manly P Hall
When the mob governs, man is ruled by ignorance; when the church governs, he is ruled
by superstition; and when the state governs, he is ruled by fear. Before men can live
together in harmony and understanding, ignorance must be transmuted into wisdom,
superstition into an illumined faith, and fear into love. Despite statements to the contrary,
Masonry is a religion seeking to unite God and man by elevating its initiates to that level
of consciousness whereon they can behold with clarified vision the workings of the Great
Architect of the Universe. From age to age the vision of a perfect civilization is preserved
as the ideal for mankind. In the midst of that civilization shall stand a mighty university
wherein both the sacred and secular sciences concerning the mysteries of life will be
freely taught to all who will assume the philosophic life. Here creed and dogma will have
no place; the superficial will be removed and only the essential be preserved. The world
will be ruled by its most illumined minds, and each will occupy the position for which he
is most admirably fitted.
The great university will be divided into grades, admission to which will be through
preliminary tests or initiations. Here mankind will be instructed in the most sacred, the
most secret, and the most enduring of all Mysteries--Symbolism. Here the initiate will be
taught that every visible object, every abstract thought, every emotional reaction is but
the symbol of an eternal principle. Here mankind will learn that CHiram (Truth) lies
buried in every atom of Kosmos; that every form is a symbol and every symbol the tomb
of an eternal verity. Through education--spiritual, mental, moral, and physical--man will
learn to release living truths from their lifeless coverings. The perfect government of the
earth must be patterned eventually after that divine government by which the universe is
ordered. 1/2

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>>136393448
In that day when perfect order is reestablished, with peace universal and good
triumphant, men will no longer seek for happiness, for they shall find it welling up within
themselves. Dead hopes, dead aspirations, dead virtues shall rise from their graves, and
the Spirit of Beauty and Goodness repeatedly slain by ignorant men shall again be the
Master of Work. Then shall sages sit upon the seats of the mighty and the gods walk with
men. 2/2

don't be retarded /pol/

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Bunch of old hags ruled by jew shills LARPing as a secret club.
Bomb your local lodge.
Sieg heil.

https://youtu.be/ASUHN3gNxWo
Watch this seminar or forever be a FAG

>>136393448
I have enjoyed reading this.

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>>136388741
>The third eye has been an anus reference all along, throughout the centuries

>>136372840
>Judaism for white people.

No wonder Hitler banned them all.

>>136395411
wrong

>>136395411
Don't let them open/expand your 3rd eye.

>>136374851
>Herzel was a founding member of the Zionist Movement
>This quote is one year before the Zionist conference took place to set out it's aims.


If you live your country don't join them, if you were a patriot like Patton or Kitchener you would be killed by them.

>>136392238
this is typical CT bullshit - a relative of mine was a lodge master, they' just take it in turns to be the big cheese for a bit then hand over to another one - all the crap about extra degrees etc.. relates to offshoot stuff

also most of the people involved with it are small business owners, police officers etc.. hardly high flying international business men

>>136395689
well yeah, the third eye also symbolizes death from above, the idea that someone who you cannot see is watching you as in the panopticon effect, there is a musical scale and the eye itself looks like the pineal gland when the head is bisected so there is all of that as well,

but yeah most plebs just supposed to think OMG invisible man can watch me masturbate and that will keep them busy while they're moving stone

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>>136395936
good goy, doing your father's Saturn work

>>136376497
>Nobody in my family has been a Mason.
probably lies, just go back in your family tree on findagrave and look at the headstones, guarantee you find somebody by three generations back

>>136395944
zionism is the same as communism, christianity etc

>>136382146
>he must have had to go through the sexual humiliation rituals. Sad.
The ones where you parade around naked? Are they really a thing?

>>136382146
>he must have had to go through the sexual humiliation rituals.
he didn't have to, he was an honorary 33rd degree, it's not the same

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>>136383668

Yes...very good...

freemasons should be lynched. 99 out of 100 have no idea what they're doing in the order to begin with, and the rest are lying cucks who think they know meditation and magick. the knights templar (which still exists in the order) were all executed by the church because they were all satanists

>>136386340
>slight monarchist slant.
ANTI Monarchist you mean... At least here in Portugal and France as well

>>136372840
Mafia mentality, no buono

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>>136388741
>>136388741
> I don’t believe anybody can become fully illuminated unless they have been sodomized at around three years of age.
woah dud

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>>136396771
>knights templar (which still exists in the order) were all executed by the church because they were all satanists
YASS POPE DEUB BULT MY NIGGA DAS RIGHT EVERYONE I DON"T LIKE IZ A SATANIST MUH NIGGU
DEM CRACKA ALBINGENZIANZ WUZ SATANIC TOO, AND THE GNOSTICS ALSO

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>>136372840
Guys, it's a Goodfellas reference. Now stop being retarded.

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Demolay anon here Ama

>look into joining my local freemasons
>all the members are black POG vets

>everyone can join
>fascists not welcome
Well, there goes my local lodge

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>>136389601
Thank you for posting this, anon. Good God, though! The implications! "Joseph the original sodomite." The 33 years missing from Jesus's life in the bible, untold. The devil tormenting, taunting, and tempting him His whole life. It was started by Joseph. That would seem to be the implication. It's all so terrible, yet it makes sense. I feel like I might hurl.

On top of all that, given what you have revealed about the effects of sodomy on a victim, it could possibly be said that the reason why the Legion of devils gained more power to influence people in those times before anything was shown to be written about Jesus, was because some of his bloodline God the Father Almighty power was temporarily stolen from him by the unclean spirit that Joseph implanted in Jesus through the act of sodomy.

I now recognize a coincidence that is no coincidence at all. Traps and other factors that lead to faggotry emerged onto /b/ in the early 2000's around the same time that "We are Legion!" became a meme.

I just deleted all my porn except for pictures of naked biological women. Thank you. I don't know if I can thank you enough, anon. You may have just helped prevent me from continuing on a path that would have damned my soul.

>>136372498
Most lodges I've been to have been run to shit over the years. No one really cares about keeping track of anything except money anymore. It took my first lodge over a year to finally give me my damn apron. I quit going and don't even consider myself a Mason anymore. Honestly it's mostly just old rednecks getting together to drink and remember the good ol' days. You're only going to find a good lodge in larger cities, like Atlanta, Philly, NY, Seattle, etc.

>>136372840
I hope you aren't a Mason. If so you joined for the wrong reasons and are at best a cancer in the organization

>>136397707
It entirely depends on your area but generally from what I've seen lodges are normally all white. Even in extremely black cities I've seen all white lodges.

>>136397939
Fascism is anti-masonic anyway why would you join?

>>136398163
rule nr 1 about mason club, don't talk about mason club

>>136380883
kek

>>136374851
/thread

>>136372498
If you like rituals and compartmentalization (and funny aprons) go for it.

Albert Pike explained in Morals & Dogma how the true nature of Freemasonry is kept a secret from Masons of lower degrees:

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry. The whole body of the Royal and Sacerdotal Art was hidden so carefully, centuries since, in the High Degrees, as that it is even yet impossible to solve many of the enigmas which they contain. It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain, and without any true reward violate his obligations as an Adept. Masonry is the veritable Sphinx, buried to the head in the sands heaped round it by the ages. "

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>>136397475
That's right I forgot, thanks. There's also this, what BLM/Kangz have attached themselves to now it seems like.

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>>136372498
fucking faggot if you are not from the 100 families or more that own this world you dont belong on this place and you are a silly goym with zero reptilian genetic traiths

pic related is sara de rotschild and his reptilian baby eating family. do you see the eyes'???
reptilians rule this world my fellow and they get rich stoling landscapes and gold and when you go to the bank and loan money you ARE OWN BY THEM and they want your children for dinner

you can always try and kill some of this fuckers and be the hero that human kind needs since ever and forget about indians and mayan and vikings and another none catholics cucks being oogaa booogaa humans because its a free mason lie

>>136398338
My uncle is a high ranking Mason in Indiana. It seems like all the lodges around here are fucked though.

>>136398338
I wasnt serious about it, just checking what they have to say about themselfs

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The faggots have radio advertisements for recruiting played on corporate stations in Massachusetts and elsewhere.

These British-pwned dipshits just want more dumb faggots to join to help vindicate their existence as something other than that of dumbshit faggot normies meeting to discuss how confused and idiotic they are.

They are a virus and need to be wiped out, just like Islam and Judaism.

>>136398894
allowing niggers into masonry was a mistake

>>136399418
you forgot to add cuckstianity my nigga

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>>136399427
I doubt any of those guys actually are. Claiming to be shit they're not is their whole thing, isn't it?

>>136398924
As far as I know none of my family are Masons but I'm rather familiar with local ones due to church.

>>136399427
Masons haven't ever been particularly racialist as far as I know. I know they assisted escaped slaves during the American Civil War.

>>136397707
>all the members are black POG vets
They are used in the gay freemason rituals

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>>136399822
I think some niggers have been allowed a glimpse of masonic teachings and then they leaked some shit to the black nationalist crowd in the form of ''black spirituality''
>>136399862
no masons are anti-racism, anti-authoritarian and liberals socially. from a political point of view they're retards. the mystery schools were never supposed to act as crypto-political entities

>>136399938
>gay freemason rituals
thelema is not freemasonry. maybe some liberal mason faggots from a liberal city have started using ''left-hand'' hocus-pocus but it's not canon

>>136400299
The Nation of Islam also had that scientology vibe to them. The whole Yakub thing. What I found interesting is that they mentioned those elephant like people supposedly living underground. I heard that from other sources too.

>>136400405
yes they hear crumbs of information from here and there, can't comprehend them because they're niggers and start stupid shit like kemetism

>>136401077
>>136401286
for you

>>136372498

Masons suck, join the Shriners.

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>>136401286
The Shriners are the Islamic branch of Freemasonry

>>136382735
This.

Politics and religion (ironically enough) are strictly taboo subjects.

>>136401077
Their founder was part of several what was essential black only secret societies before claiming he was the messiah and shit. Yakub and such is probably shit he invented basically on stuff he learned from those groups. Funny you mention Scientology though since NOI is now required to also join Scientology and be trained in their stuff too.

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>>136401483
You have to be a Mason to join the Shriners.

>>136401495
They just larp as a Turk/Arab.

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>>136372840
Are you quoting Goodfellas

Are Ausbro or Texbro here? I have no interest in going through the whole spiel yet again.

>>136389884
Union construction specialist at $42/hour. 1.5x pay after 8 hours, 2x pay on Sundays and holidays. I know I'm part of the problem, but fuck, I can't turn down the pay.

>>136401635
NOI?
Well just strikes me similar to the scientology zenu thing. It's just a framework to legitimize the organisation.
>>136401286
Sounds about right.

>>136375942
>It's basically a gentlemen's club for educated people.
How come all the retards and dregs of society join it?

>>136372498
they are looking for guys to drop all the blame on i see

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>>136402130
the love of money is the root of all evil

>>136376497

its the guy at the interview. or maybe boss of the company.

>>13638164
>church
Any chicks or is it a sausage fest?

>>136385539
They're a really old trades' union.
They have some power due to its age and status as a trades' union, but they're not some demonic summoning cult.

>>136402350
Nation of Islam. Their current leader allied with Scientology a few years ago so now there's tons of NOI-Scientologists. A lot of people in it got mad so he gave a sermon about Scientology being "black science" that Hubbard just happened to "rediscover."

>>136372840
its the highest honor they can give you it mean you are part of a your family and a your crew it mean you cannot be fucked around can fuck around with you also mean you can fuck around with anybody so long as you and them arent a memeber

>>136402449
> money, it's evil. So give yours to me.
Riiiiigghhtttt

>>136372840
NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR FUCKIN SHINEBOX

They want your money and want to use your influence, forget about them.

>>136382735
dont lie to me you freejewson

>>136399427
They basically still aren't allowed.

>what is prince hall masonry for 1000 alex?

>>136374851
This.

See Albert Pike.

They will rape your boipucci

>>136391629
Alexander was mentioned. Did Caesar sodomize people a lot? Like in Gaul and back in Rome?

>>136402646
Slipped through the cracks. That's weird, I thought NOI was long dead.

I can't help. My great grandfather was a grandmaster but he never spoke of it.

>>136404675
They died for a short period when Elijah Muhammad's son converted to regular Islam and merged the NOI to regular Islam. This pissed off a lot of NOI members though so they continue the NOI with Louis Farrakhan now.

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>>136373505
underrated post- though, to be fair, its miles above the comprehension of the 15 yr olds on this site.

>>136372498
Should you join an organization that's lying to you from the outset and is only interested in using you as a vehicle to manifest an interest entirely unknown to you?

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>>136378070
>buy a house
>2015+2
>middle class
You're a fucking summerfag

>>136406175
>lying to you from the outset
Lolwut.

>>136406110
makes me feel old
>35-44yo bracket

>Very recently I just got a job making a pretty good deal of money, 6 figures

>received an email from the lodge in my local HS town asking if I was still interested

guess the masons want you to pay membership lol

>>136407308
"Slipped through the cracks" being a euphemism for "weren't up to standard yet".

>>136403778
What about him?

>>136407662
What's this in regard to?

>>136372707
>ten years
Unlikely. Not implying anything insidious mind you; but the chances of a ten year late reply are almost none. Most likely op is homosex.

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>>136372498
DO NOT JOIN FREEMASONRY!!

As former Masons who have embraced the truth found in Jesus Christ, we are in a unique position. Since we have repented of our involvement in Freemasonry and have confessed our involvement in Freemasonry as sin, we have been cleansed from unrighteousness and restored to fellowship with God through our relationship with His Son, Jesus Christ.

While we were Masons, we sometimes were asked questions about Freemasonry by other church members who were not Masons. Because we had taken an oath to ever conceal and never reveal the secret teaching of Freemasonry, under the penalty of having our throats cut from ear to ear, we were reluctant to respond truthfully. We beg the forgiveness of our brothers and sisters in Christ for the less than honest answers we provided while we were Masons. Since we have repented (embraced God’s viewpoint on the issue) we have been released from the oaths. (Lev 5:4-6.) We came to realize that God did not want us to take the oaths to begin with. (Matthew 5:33-37 & James 5:12) As Christians who walk in the light of Jesus Christ, we are now willing to respond truthfully to the questions we continue to be asked.

http://www.emfj.org/answers.htm

>>136372498
>>136375942
What if I'm hardworking but not educated? Can I become a freemason?

>asking for a jewish friend

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Interesting coincidence that this popped up in my sc today...
Maybe they are hurting for members.

https://youtu.be/3z2chw_bR50
Had a giggle about the guy walking out at 54:01, after he starts shitting on hitler.

>>136408288
>Maybe they are hurting for members.
I think they are. Losing power and the such.

>>136407880
>but the chances of a ten year late reply are almost none.
I wouldn't rule it out, though. Some lodges are amazingly slow at responding.

>>136408076
>(((Evangelist))) lies
Disappointing.

>>136408288
"Invited"
But hell, if that did somehow turn up unsolicited, he should send that through to the Grand Lodge and get Middleburg Lodge #619 struck off for violating the constitution.

>>136408288
All secret societies are. The internet makes the idea of joining clubs to make friends obsolete in the minds of the current generation. The Masons are doing better than some other groups but even they're hurting for members. I imagine over the coming years we'll be seeing these groups trying to appeal to the millennials more and more.

>>136407880
Actually this is more common than you may think. I've seen a lot of people complain in Freemason and Odd Fellows circles about long wait times because the lodges want to drag their feet with applications.

>>136372498
you stupid cunt dont join its a scam and only who they consider to be wealthy to pay for their bills get to join.

dont believe a word he said he noticed you when you got that sweet job and knew you weren't worthy till now use your fucking head dont go do not bother

I'll let you in on something.

>William Cooper, When he joined the navy, He filled out a questionaire and in that questionaire, he was asked a few things.

>Are you a Freemason?

>Do you belong to any current Fraternal organizations?

>Are you an American citizen?

>Do you wish to help your fellow man?


Bill answered the following.

>I am a member of Demolay Organization and was a member since high school.

When the Navy saw this information, he was inadvertently given access to top secret documents regarding the history of contact involving man and extraterrestrial beings. This started a whirlwind in his life and the information he discovered, he wrote a book about when he got out of the military. He believes that if he didn't state he was a member of Demolay then he would of never been given access to the information.

>>136381788
>are you going to burn in hell?

Quite the opposite. Being a Freemason gives you access to knowledge that will uplift your soul, so to speak.

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of course this people are ont thi shit

>>136402773
Great retort. You capped that commie right in the knees!

>>136378148
The Founding Fathers… many of them were Masons… You saying they were sodomites and cocksuckers????

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>>136409285
Demolay who?

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>>136409945
many were heathens. most.... the "land of archangel michael" was planned a long, long, long time ago.

>>136409945
PS To be a Mason, You have to ask.
They vote whether you can joiner not by secret ballot.. each mason casts either a black or white ball.. which is where the expresso blackballed came from… that type of voting process.
This is bullshit. They don't call you up, its expressly forbidden. I have been initiated into other mystical organizations, Masons are much the same. Theres so much online you badly need to join for the knowledge anymore… just for the fraternal relationship and acting out the ritual.

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>>136410173
Enlil?

>>136410406
Some Masons and Odd Fellows are allowed to do limited recruiting now due to fears of their lodges going extinct. This isn't really putting flyers out though so much as just suggesting the idea to people at their jobs and churches.

>>136410676
>Some Masons and Odd Fellows are allowed to do limited recruiting now due to fears of their lodges going extinct.
Nope. At least not in Masonry. Invitations are penalised with expulsion for both parties. Better that one of the excess lodges shut down than the constitutions and landmarks be violated.

>>136410173
>your eternal home is earth

can u please define that for me ?
sorry new fag here...
as in being bound to this place as in being reborn here ? or bound as a ghost ?

>>136410120

Jacques DeMolay who was burned at the stake as a knights templar in 1307.