America needs to apologize for Hiroshima

>>136371940
>tfw op doesn't realize that japs committed far more war crimes that were arguably worse

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>>136371940
Fuck off, eurofag. I'd nuke you if I could, I'd love seeing your bastard children get cancer in their childhood, and I'd nuke Japan again if they picked a fight with us. Imagine how much pain those people in that pic were in, then grind salty lemon juice into their flesh. Tha'ts what I want to happen to you, you stupid limpwristed fag.

apologize?

and what is that going to do?

nobody needs a damn apology. The opening up of Japan after its surrender can not be undone, and the lives taken don't come back.

apology....
please.

#SorryNotSorry

>>136371940
>America should apologies for wanting Japan to surrender to them rather than to the Soviets
>Hence, establish a strong puppet country in the far-east that would help stabilize the now modern economy

>>136371940
Total war is a bitch

>>136371940
>skin melted off
>clothes relatively intact
come on now

>>136371940
We should nuke the Japs again, just to show we mean business.

>>136371940
don't pick a fight you can't win you faggot

two nukes weren't enough

A. The nukes didn't end the war, Russia declaring war on Japan was the final straw

B. There was a huge push to show the world what America was capable of to gain leverage in talks post-war.

C. The Japanese are lucky since the Russians could've controlled half of their shit for decades if America didn't.

>>136371940
Ww2 was a good vs evil. And goodness won. Sorry mate. You're too young to understand. Maybe later in life you will. You know after you've stopped sucking your dads cock and your balls dropped.

>>136371940
Jews need to apologize for Hiroshima*

>>136371940
Japan felt it was honorable.
So fuck off.

>>136371940
Mmmmm nah

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>>136371940
Canadian or German flag?

>>136372470
Hitler should have won.

>>136371940
I wouldn't go so far as to call it a crime given the circumstances, but I'm sorry for it.

>>136371940
No worse than anything Godzilla's ever done to them.

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>>136371940
ok euroweenie whatever you say. Two bombs literally created the zombie genre in japan.

>>136371940
It was a war crime, however an apology at this point would be fairly pointless.

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>>136372255
UV radiation is some shit, people wearing checkered shirts had the pattern burnt into their skin.

>>136371940
DOD had plans to release bats rigged with small incindeary devices onto Japan. Due to the wood and paper construction of much of the cities, mass fire would result , same as mass conventional bombing, that's part of the deliberation thoughts on usage.

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>>136372167


>Before you start typing a trash reply in frothing anger, I acknowledge that world war 2 was not a black and white, "good" vs "evil" affair, it was a 5 year cluster fuck and all major factions committed atrocities and war crimes such as the bombing of Dresden and the rape of Berlin and they should also be apologized for as well but that is not the subject of this thread so please don't feel the need to deflect to them or call me a hypocrite.

>>136372183
>>136372225
>>136372317
>>136372345
>>136372397

Genocidal Americans, what else is new. I'm sure there are some of your rational countrymen on this board.

>>136372255
>>136372188


They got to feel their skin burn, char and melt and then vomit up their liquefying organs due to radiation damage at the cellular level until they died of shock in extreme agony. Hiroshima victims had some of the most unpleasant and agonizing deaths of the war. Women, children, civilians. It was a war crime.

>>136371940
They literally started it

>>136372658
So 0?

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>>136371940
Japan totally warned USA of the incoming attack. Japan attacked because USA had embargos around Japan even tho USA was "neutral" at the time.

USA collected all their fleet in one harbour for Japan to bomb and provoke USA entering WW2.

Military industrial complex got a stimulus boost that day.

ITS ALL PLANNED.
EVERY.
FUCKING.
TIME.

yeehaw

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>>136371940

The atom bombs killed 250,000 people roughly 0.2% of the 80,000,000 people killed in WWII and it ended the fucking war.

In contrast the Japs killed 20 million Chinese, 600,000 in Nanking alone simply as a consequence of random rapes and murders by the occupying forces.

You reap what you sew.

>>136371940
Obama did.

nice b8 thread. everyone knows that the japs committed worse atrocities than the nazis

>>136373185
>Japs killed 20 million Chinese

And this is bad because?

>>136373185

/thread

>>136372597
if i saw that fuckers head sticking out of the ground id freak out and kick it like a soccer ball into the sun the little fucker needs to stay in its own yard and off my fucking sidewalk i swear to fucking god i hate dogs so much

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>>136372797
How exactly do you think a land invasion of Japan go in terms of civilian casualties, bub?

I don't think people appreciate just how fearsome Japan was during WWII. They were a fucking hornet's nest, going crazy on everything around them. They even sent suicide attacks to take out our boats. They couldn't be dealt with in the same way we'd deal with Europeans.

The only way to win was to fight to the last man. They were going to do it, so they'd force us to meet them on that level. Dropping a nuke on them showed them how hopeless it was, even if they wanted to keep fighting. Fighting to the last man doesn't seem so great when you can't take your opponent out at all. We just showed we could stand back and obliterate them without losing a single person if necessary. And they needed a demonstration of that power. The second one was a reminder that this isn't a one time deal. We could have done that shit as many times as we needed.

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>>136372620
>>136372686

Together, your replies fulfill the obligation for an apology. Thank you.

>>136372994
That doesn't mean anything. You can't just torture people and say that "They started it". The innocent civilian victims of Hiroshima that didn't die instantly were tortured for hours, days and weeks as their bodies shut down due to severe burns and radiation. I believe it mandates an apology.

>>136371940
All because FDR let the japanese bomb pearl harbor was shit like this allowed to fly. Had america not felt Wounded by the "Suprise Attack" There might have been more heistation to Drop a literal Outdoor Microwave on human beings
>inb4 uh You clearly don't know how nuclear bombs work
>inb4 the japs had it coming for P-Harbor!

>>136371940
Firebombing tokyo was way worse.

>>136373414
are they going to McDonald's for milkshakes?

>>136371940
I like Japan, but they started it. You fuck with us, we clap back.

>>136372994
How old are you?
>not to mention the gubment allowed for pearl harbor to happen

>>136371940
Two nukes weren't enough desu

>>136371940
that's the only thing i'll give praise to Obama for.
he may bow to some king like a bitch, but he never apologized to the japs for dropping the bombs.

>>136371940
No the fuck we don't.....They stated the fight and would not relent until we smashed the shit out of them.....I am so tired of the white guilt routine.....play stupid games, win stupid prizes

MAGA

>>136373185
I don't think the bombing could have been prevented and I know it's just a cherry on top but you've lost everything you stand for if you start thinking about it in that way. Killing and right and wrong isn't that black and white.

>>136371940
Id bomb them again just for creating anime. Im dead fucking serious

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>>136371940

> Start war
> Get rekt
> Winning side should apologize

How about no?

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DO IT AGAIN BOMBS AWAY LEMAY!

>>136372797
Learn how to greentext euro trash.

>>136372183
You must have a diverse, well balanced social circle and be quite the hoot at parties.

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>>136373640

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>>136371940
it brings me joy to be able to use this reaction.

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>>136373414
Answer my question, buddy. After the Japanese convinced non-citizens of Japan to literally jump off of cliffs to avoid Americans, how do you think civilian casualties would've counted up to in a land-invasion?

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Japan may have gotten nuked, but the burgers lost that war.

America will never be a white nation again.

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>>136371940
sage

>>136371940
Dumb japs got what they deserved. No need to apologize.

>>136371940
In June 1940, Henry L. Stimson, who had been secretary of war under Taft and secretary of state under Hoover, became secretary of war again. Stimson was a lion of the Anglophile, northeastern upper crust and no friend of the Japanese. In support of the so-called Open Door Policy for China, Stimson favored the use of economic sanctions to obstruct Japan’s advance in Asia. Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau and Interior Secretary Harold Ickes vigorously endorsed this policy. Roosevelt hoped that such sanctions would goad the Japanese into making a rash mistake by launching a war against the United States, which would bring in Germany because Japan and Germany were allied.

Accordingly, the Roosevelt administration, while curtly dismissing Japanese diplomatic overtures to harmonize relations, imposed a series of increasingly stringent economic sanctions on Japan. In 1939 the United States terminated the 1911 commercial treaty with Japan. “On July 2, 1940, Roosevelt signed the Export Control Act, authorizing the President to license or prohibit the export of essential defense materials.” Under this authority, “[o]n July 31, exports of aviation motor fuels and lubricants and No. 1 heavy melting iron and steel scrap were restricted.” Next, in a move aimed at Japan, Roosevelt slapped an embargo, effective October 16, “on all exports of scrap iron and steel to destinations other than Britain and the nations of the Western Hemisphere.” Finally, on July 26, 1941, Roosevelt “froze Japanese assets in the United States, thus bringing commercial relations between the nations to an effective end. One week later Roosevelt embargoed the export of such grades of oil as still were in commercial flow to Japan.”[2] The British and the Dutch followed suit, embargoing exports to Japan from their colonies in southeast Asia.

>>136373368

The sharpest edge I've seen all day today.

>>136373859

An Untenable Position

Roosevelt and his subordinates knew they were putting Japan in an untenable position and that the Japanese government might well try to escape the stranglehold by going to war. Having broken the Japanese diplomatic code, the Americans knew, among many other things, what Foreign Minister Teijiro Toyoda had communicated to Ambassador Kichisaburo Nomura on July 31: “Commercial and economic relations between Japan and third countries, led by England and the United States, are gradually becoming so horribly strained that we cannot endure it much longer. Consequently, our Empire, to save its very life, must take measures to secure the raw materials of the South Seas.”[3]
Because American cryptographers had also broken the Japanese naval code, the leaders in Washington knew as well that Japan’s “measures” would include an attack on Pearl Harbor.[4] Yet they withheld this critical information from the commanders in Hawaii, who might have headed off the attack or prepared themselves to defend against it. That Roosevelt and his chieftains did not ring the tocsin makes perfect sense: after all, the impending attack constituted precisely what they had been seeking for a long time. As Stimson confided to his diary after a meeting of the war cabinet on November 25, “The question was how we should maneuver them [the Japanese] into firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves.”[5] After the attack, Stimson confessed that “my first feeling was of relief ... that a crisis had come in a way which would unite all our people.[6]
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1930

>>136371940
Nah they don't
The Jap's have committed many inhumane war crimes onto the Chinese Korea's
Those two nukes where something of cosmic justice
Fucking japs

>>136373185

The nukes did not end the war. The Russians declaring war on Japan did.

>>136373368
>found the nigger

>>136373502
>>136373743

100% agreed. I think a lot of people don't realize how fucking awful those weapons are and how using them on a civilian population is a blatant war crime. If the US blanketed Hiroshima in chlorine gas you'd see a different and much more severe backlash against it because Europeans and Americans have seen what that does to their own sons and fathers after the first world war.

I stopped reading after "terrible war crimes"

Sage and disregard this fucking loser

>>136371940
Apologize for General Sherman.

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>>136373821

This is an example of a great shill. You earned your 15 cents here buddy.

>>136373368
Xd let's attack things that can't fight back due to complete lack of confidence xdxdxdxdxd

Tldr: Gas yourself nigger

>>136373743
Eisenhower was in Europe fighting Germany and Italy, he didn't know exactly what was going on in the Pacific and hadn't fought the Japanese himself.
Japan was not going to surrender unless it was shocked into doing it. They didn't give up on any of the island battles, and they certainly wouldn't just give up the mainland.
Even when Hirohito finally realized surrender was the only real option aside from total destruction, many Japanese army generals tried to stop him and prevent the message of surrender from being broadcasted.

>>136374020
>american education

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>>136371940

>>136373502
>>136373558
That's a meme you worthless cum dumpsters.

>>136373743
>Ready to surrender
>didn't surrender after the first bomb

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>>136372797
NIGGER THEY FUCKING STARTED THE WAR YOU RETARDED DICKHEAD
This is a bait thread. Redpill, sage, and leave the thread

>>136374098

Start shit get hit retard.

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>>136372658
While potentially true, as a percentage of total population of Jews versus total world population of Chinese, the percentage of Jews killed by the Germans is far, far higher.

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>>136373185
It's "sow" you ignoramus, they're not stitching clothes.

>>136373368
OOGA BOOGA

>>136374222

August 6:
First Nuclear detonation
Truman calls for Japanese surrender

August 8:
Soviets declare war on Japan, invading Manchukuo

August 9:
Emperor Hirohito intervenes and orders Supreme Council to surrender
Second Nuclear bomb

>KYS

>>136374303
Dc knew the attack was coming you knuckle dragging fuck.

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>>136371940
Japanese were willing to die for the emperor even after Germany fell.
They wanted more land and got bombed once the US realised this. It sucks ass, because we didn't really now the effects but we wanted to and Japan gave us the best excuse to use it. So we did it twice, but I guess now we know. Sorry Japs, but what did you think was going to happen.

>>136371940
Apologize for what? They started it.

>>136372474
GOOD POST

>>136374272
Except Nagasaki wasn't the original target, Kyoto was. It was changed just weeks before by Henry Stimson, secretary of war.

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>>136371940
It was just a prank.

>>136371940
As an American in Japan, I'm sorry. However none of my ancestors fought in the war and I wish the axis beat the Jews.

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>>136373715
>diverse, well balanced
>social circle
Choose one leaf
Shitpost more

>>136373185

Fucking this. I've been to the goddamned Nanjing memorial. Just cause we stuck your oppai ball in the microwave twice is nothing compared to the horrible shit japs did there and everywhere in China. I've got some interesting photos of shit there if anyone wants to see.

>>136371940
Reparations when?

>>136374766
Shut up, you disgusting slavaboo.
>Criticize America for joining the war against Germany six months after USSR did and say the US did nothing
>USSR joins the war against Japan the day before it ends and they claim to be the decisive factor
Maybe the USSR would have defeated Japanese forces in Asia, but only the US posed a direct threat to the Japanese mainland.

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>>136371940
Americans are literally incapable of comprehending the idea that we can commit war crimes, so good luck. Americans will even defend the use of agent orange, which fucked up almost as many Americans as it did Vietnamese. The problem with the idea of the rules of war is that they only apply to the loser, because no winner in their right mind would punish themself. It just so happens that the US has never been the loser (in terms of having our country invaded/destroyed). Never having been the loser, the US has never been punished which leads Americans to the false idea that we are noble freedom loving warriors or something. The US has been waging brutal wars for globalism since 1865, and the whole time the government has kept the stupid goyim signing up to fight by feeding them lies about "freedom and democracy".

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>>136371940
Didn't Obumcuck already do that?

Daily reminder that in order to save jewish civilians, it was necessary to mass murder japanese and german civilians.

War crime? What kind of faggot hippie shit is a war crime? Anything goes in war, only a leftist cuck would complain of war crimes.

>>136374198
I always read that the US were expecting up to 1,000,000 casualties of service men if we indeed invaded Japan. I could be wrong tho. Any clarification to this wiuld be greatly appreciated.

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>>136371940
The formation of anime was not a war crime, faggot.

>>136374904
What kind of kikery is this? Provoking someone into attacking then playing the victim afterwards..

>>136375426
would*

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>>136373368
Unironically neck yourself nigger

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As soon as the slant eyes apologize for Pearl Harbor

and Nanking

And Batan

And unit 731

And Laha

And Banka

And Palawan

And Midway

And Wake Island

And Rangoon

and their use of chemical weapons

and their torturing of prisoners

And- you know what....fuck the japs. We should nuke a random jap city every 10 years to remind the world what happens when you fuck with the USA

>>136371940
>that pic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V90AmXnguw

>>136372797
how do we know that is what they felt, they died shortly after the bomb drop and you are acting like you were there watching them. In war your acts will decide what level of action will be taken against you, Maybe they won't rape an entire city or march soldiers cross country to die next time they go to war.

Its funny that Japan was once this great warrior culture who brutally destroyed their enemies, now they just want apologies. Literally cucked by a bomb.

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>>136371940
apologize for what?

Who gives a fuck if a bunch of nigger gooks died?

>>136375582
Apologies is cuckoldry.

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The only thing 美国人 need to apologize for is being so forgiving to those cowardly fucking jap bastards and not finishing them off.

t. chink murrican

fucking japs deserve it

>>136375411
Daily reminder that the Empire routinely tortured, abused, and outright killed POWs, will forever be known for the perpetrator's in the rape of Nanking. By grateful we only nuked 2 cities.

>>136372658
nakin massacre never happened faggot

>>136373106
military industrial complex got the stimulus because we had to restructure our navy lol. We had to transition to air craft carriers being our main flagship

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"Apologize"

>>136371940
>I acknowledge that world war 2 was not a black and white, "good" vs "evil" affair,

somebody please post that applicable brain meme for this thinking, if you have it, you know which one im talking about,.

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>>136371940

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>>136375411
Im sorry nip, we really thought it was the (((right))) thing to do. Its not to late, we can still nuke Isreal, together.

>>136371940

Both those bombs saved millions of lives on both sides

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>>136371940
Fuck off you gelded European cuck. Vile nips had it coming.

Go worry about how you idiots are destroying western civilization, for the third time in a century, by inviting vibrant diversity to rape your women and children (the few you actually have).

>>136375290

Never said US did nothing. We gave huge amounts of weapons to the Russians, the English, and the Chinese.

A majority of Japanese troops were in Korea and China when the USSR declared war on Japan. The Japanese never thought they could win but wanted non-unconditional surrender. With the USSR joining that was no longer possible.

The main reason we dropped those bombs was to prevent the spread of Communism in Japan-proper by having to split the country.

>>136375738
I'm not a Jap but I'd gladly put you on the end of a bayonet too Chink

>>136375774
kek

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>>136371940
it's true.

>>136372167
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>>136372994
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>>136375422
>>136375582

>murdering civilians
>legitimate warfare

you can only choose one. if you're okay with murdering civilians, you have nothing to bitch about in regards to 9/11, regardless of the fact that it was an inside job

I agree. America purposefully killed 10 000s of civilians. Best case would be calling it terrorism, worst case genocide.

>>136371940
Sorry we didn't drop ten of them.

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>>136375863

>>136371940
Hiroshima was a war crime
Nanking was a war crime
Dresden was a war crime
...

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>>136375878

>>136375972
Nice tu quoque.

>>136375972
There are no civilians in war, only cowards.

>>136375863
That bitch is pretty hot

>>136376102
not a tu quoque. tu quoque is killing civilians for revenge.

pearl harbor was a military target. it wasn't attacked to get at civilians. try the fuck again

>>136375426
A precise number is hard to calculate. One fact that gives a bit of an idea is that in preparation for the invasion, the US made 500,000 Purple Heart medals. Not sure it would have been 1,000,000 casualties but it would have certainly raised the US death toll in the war well above the ~400,000 it ultimately was.
The Japanese would have lost millions of soldiers and civilians. People in cities were being taught how to use spears to fight, and thousands of planes and small boats were reserved for Kamikaze attacks.
The invasion would have been even less "humane" than the two atomic bombs since it was already decided that the atomic bombs would still be used to level areas prior to American troop entry. There was also a chance that chemical weapons would have been dropped on Japanese cities or strongholds because nobody wanted to deal with another Iwo Jima or Okinawa where the enemy hid in tunnels.
If Hirohito was arrested/executed and replaced by a junta then the war would have been fought until every single pocket of Japanese resistance had surrendered or been killed.

>>136376112
cool. so you're fine with terrorism. got it.

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>>136375774
Whoa now, slow down there, we already have white self hatred, last thing we need is nip self hatred. I know how much you guys get hard on self defamation.

>>136371940
Aww, sorry you didn't get to see your plans of World domination Japan :((( So sad, now you're just cucked little weebs without a military dying off while your kids masturbate to cartoons. So sad

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>>136373368
>sidewalk
cant tell thats on a wall
your lack of IQ causes me physical pain

>>136376003
We should have nuked you fucking kraut sacks of shit while we were at it. Without your vile nation, the rest of Europe might have avoided its current fate of being invaded by the Muslim hoard.

we are America. we decide what's right and wrong, not you. get back in line and do what America says. post fucking haste.

OP is probably a weebshit

>>136376003
they killed more than 100k with the 2 h bombs alone, add up the air raids and its genocide, same with Germans, i think the numbers rack up to 1.5million for Germans only AFTER the war ended, not counting air raids on civilian areas during the war

Why won't Japan even acknowledge their war crimes?

lmao rules in war

>>136375928
The USSR never had a way to Japan itself. The Soviet Navy and Red Army was not nowhere neat prepared to launch large amphibious invasions like the Americans had been throughout the war in the Pacific.
At most, the USSR could have taken part of Asia like China, Mongolia, Korea, and Vietnam. Which they pretty much did anyway.

>>136371940
Show your skin, or be saged.

>>136376360
fuck off, retard. the nazi warmachine owed its existence to u.s. corporations.

kill yourself

>>136375972
P.S.

the nazi war machine owed its existence to u.s. corporations

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>>136376479
Oh, we sell a few adding machines and suddenly we're all nazis.

Seriously, you are to stupid to live.

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>>136376444
OH FUGG
Checked, Ahmed.

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I got up looking through my picture folder and in that time forgot both what the thread was about and what pic I was looking for

So check this 5

>>136376255
Thanks for the info anon!

>>136376590
Don't forget IBM.

>>136372797
So, just to clarify, you are COMPLETELY ALRIGHT with MORE dead civilians that would resulted from a land invasion? Just want to check. Answer me and don't be a pussy

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>>136375582
My Uncle was held in Japanese POW Camps Cabanatuan & Fukuoka Omits. There were more than 140,000 white prisoners in Japanese prisoner of war camps. Of these, one in three died from starvation, work, punishments or from disease. There were HUNDREDS of Japanese POW Camps in WW2.

FUCK JAPAN.

>>136376091
That's the one, thanks anon.

>>136376255
this is a shit excuse for the bombs.
before the bombs were dropped, the Japanese already offered a conditional surrender in which the condition was that they can keep the emperor, but the US wanted an unconditional surrender. the bombs or invasion were to force an unconditional surrender, which means that the US planned to (and did) kill large amounts of people just so they could claim a "total" victory. The invasion plan was made so we could have an excuse anyway, why invade when you can wait for them to starve?

>>136376259
Boohoo terrorism...fight back you pussy. You could easily put an end to "terrorism" in your nationalist if you just quit worrying about foreign "civilians." Faggot

>>136376456

The Soviet Pacific Fleet had over 140,000 sailors in 1945. With the Japanese Navy completely shattered after Okinawa and Midway the Soviets definitely could've had boots on the Japanese Homeland.

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>>136375972

>you can only choose one

I choose suck my dick, commie. I'll regard anything any way I wish and your contribution to the matter is ideally you being dead.

>>136375714
And the world is essentially our cuck, any time we would want it to be.
Seriously. If we wanted, any nation in the world, we could invade, capture their leader, pull every one of his teeth, and make him suck Trumps cock while he cries like that wojack pic. All while being slapped around.
We are the gods. And they are the dick sucklers. The pigs, and the slaves. The only and sole reason they are able to bitch even now? Is because we let them, out of our own nobility. Nothing more. They're nobodies. They're nothing.

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>>136371940
Hiroshima was a military target:
"Hiroshima was chosen as the first target due to its military and industrial values. As a military target, Hiroshima was a major army base that housed the headquarters of the Japanese 5th Division and the 2nd Army Headquarters. It was also an important port in southern Japan and a communications center."

Nagasaki was an infrastructure and production target:
"The city of Nagasaki was one of the most important sea ports in southern Japan. Although it was not among the list of potential targets selected by Oppenheimer's committee, it was added later due to its significance as a major war production center for warships, munitions, and other equipment."

No apologies for a war we didn't start. Fuck off with your shitty thread.

>>136371940

I think both sides can agree terrible savage things were done that may as well have belonged in an earlier unenlightened century.

but Japan has the bragging rights here since a small island nation ate two nuclear bombs while fighting a radius war against an already established superpower.

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This feels like an Aussie shitpost to me....

>>136376426
one of the great things we lost when we stopped being a racially homogeneous society.... you can just tell people to go suck it if they bring up the past like this

>>136376648
>>136376693

wasn't just IBM's punchcards. it was also:

Standard Oil
Texaco
Alcoa
General Motors
Ford
ITT
Westinghouse
General Electric
DuPont
Kodak
Pratt and Whitney
Douglas Aircraft
United Fruit
Singer
International Harvester

and others

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>murdering civilians
>legitimate warfare

Get Gold Statue in Central Park

>>136376700
there wouldn't have been a land invasion even without the bombs you negroid, we were already starving them off with a blockade and air raids.

>>136376825

Bullshit. Give me a source. The only thing I can think of was the attempt through the USSR which fell apart after no one could agree on conditions.

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>>136376869
lol you mean the terrorism that the u.s. finances? the "rebels" who became ISIS were armed and financed by the U.S.

you're a dumbass

>>136376960
what's that? you're arguing like a 3rd wave feminist now because you're using your feelings and a fallacy of dismissal?

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>>136376426
>Why won't Japan even acknowledge their war crimes?
Maybe because we pardoned and hired their worst Mengele tier war criminal as a consultant? Shiro Ishii of Unit 731, along with other comrades in human vivisection, lived in comfort after the war because the USA wanted their human experimentation data on things like freezing peoples limbs off and infecting them with the Black Plague.

>>136371940
Being the winner means fucking the defeated dead corpse without consequences.

>>136376997
see
>>136375972

>>136376825
Japan had waged a war of aggression, killed millions, brutalized civilians and PoWs, and occupied many foreign lands. They were getting beaten back to their doorstep, they do not get to make conditions of their own surrender.
Leaving the Emperor in place without massive reforms to the Japanese governmental system and military would mean the exact same mindset and militarism popping up again. Obviously, the Japan of today is much different.

The invasion plan was always the default and what nearly everyone was preparing for. It had been in the works long before knowledge of the Atomic Bomb (or even if it would work) were available. Once knowledge of the bombs were available, then invasion planners started adding use of them in.
Truman decided to try the bomb by itself to stop the war, and it ended up working.

>>136373819
He won't answer because his mind is too small to comprehend what you are saying

>>136373368
t. muslim

>>136377139

Talk shit get hit.

>>136373819
see
>>136375972

>>136371940
No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRf8WfuKkEc

>>136377231

Let's try to put this in simple terms that you may be able to process.

Your opinion is irrelevant. You are irrelevant. In so far as you feel empowered to make any comment on anything whatsoever, you should first consider the fact that your moral authority for doing so is precisely zero, and that your pompous postings should primarily be a source of profound shame and regret when you think about them.

>>136377302
and truman was also a savagely degenerate racist

see
>>136375972

Walkers

>>136375972
This.

>>136377290
Are you seriously holding the standard that the total wars of the early 20th centuries should have had zero civilian deaths? Or that any war should have zero civilian deaths?

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>>136371940
no

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>>136375972
I'll add that if you're okay with punishing civilians, you should be okay with all the brutal things the Japanese military did to civilians all over Asia, which is one of the main justifications we used to enter the war in the first place.

The people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima obviously had fuckall to do with any of this, which is one of the reasons we had never bombed them before. If killing these people was okay, killing innocents is always okay.

Never apologize, though. Once you apologize you become a carcass to be feasted upon until there is nothing left. Anyone have the one about the Swiss banks handy?

>>136377533
what's that? japan would have surrendered and you're a piece of shit?

no seriously. kill yourself. holy shit i hope you're a baby boomer which means you'll probably die first

>>136377606

>Should
Yes

>In reality
No

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Why don't the Japanese posters ever make Hiroshima threads?

>>136376997
Nagasaki was actually the backup target for August 9th. The primary was Kokura, a city with a massive arsenal, other factories, and a large railway depot. However there were clouds over the target area, so the choice was made to go to the backup target of Nagasaki.

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Came here to see some horribly melted and deformed japs due to radiations, I must say I am pretty disappointed.

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>>136377606
yes, because i don't support terrorism. killing civilians is terrorism

>>136371940
You should apologize for your virtue signalling

>>136371940


Japan (as well as most of the developed world) were in a state of total war. Total war meaning the entire economies of involved nations were a part of the war effort. Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't sleepy little hamlets.

Even a quick Wikipedia tells this: Hiroshima was the headquarters of the 2ND General Army. In addition, 20,000 soldiers were stationed in Japan. It was also a port city.

Nagasaki was also a major industrial center including a Mitsubishi manufacturing plant.

They were legitimate military targets. And it may sound extremely utilitarian, but these two bombs saved a net positive of hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of lives.

You have to remember, this was 1945. Smart bombs and laser guided bombs didn't exist. Precision bombing was not a possibility. And if you think we could have waited them out, you're just an ignorant dumbass. Starving them out would have caused immeasurable casualties.

Off your high horse. We owe Japan no apologies. They started it.

>>136377633
blah blah blah

>muh hatred

It was total war with no rules, that's why. Cucks that try to justify civilian targets by grasping at straws of military value miss the point - civilians are a valid target to crush morale in total war. Just ask Curtis Lemay.

Saw a thread with Kraut sympathizers crying over "Mud Dresden!" and it's the same story - "don't start shit if you don't want shit".

Total war is not a game of gentlemen, it is a game of playing to win at any cost.

>>136377937
total war is the same as terrorism.

killing civilians is terrorism. this is not a difficult concept to understand.

>>136377760
>There are true japanese posters here
whenever you see a japanese flag It's a westerner working in japan.

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>>136377795

>>136377987
so you're a terrorist. got it.

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>>136378050

>>136377641
>The people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had nothing to do with this
The Hiroshima bomb killed 40,000 Japanese soldiers, who were the primary target. Nagasaki was a possible beachhead for full scale invasion

I am happy that those Japs perished in nuclear fire and I only wish that more of them could have been incinerated, so fuck off with your apologies. My only regret is that we hadn't invented the H-bomb yet at the time so that we could have laid waste to the entire populace. Fuck Japan.

>>136372797
This. But also, what good do apologies do? Sorry I fucked you up mentally and physically, we good now?

>>136371940
>starting a war

Dude it was more than 70 years ago the only people still upset about it are people that just don't like America and use this as a stick too beat them with.

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>>136378117

>>136374432
>Jews killed by Germans
U wut m8?

>>136373185
This.

Sad thing is, right when I start to feel bad I remember how the Chinese treat doggos.

Asia major in and itself seems like a godless rancid mess of smog, bodily fluids and the dark underbelly of the Industrial Age gone awry.

>>136371940
OH BY THE WAY

the attack on pearl harbor was allowed to happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR8Oe3mDF0s

>>136377679
Reality doesn't care about your utopian fantasy.

>>136377848
All war is terrorism (violence for a political goal) you dumb fuck. You're complaining that the collective killing for collective benefit has too much killing. Reality doesn't care, war is a violent bloody mess, and the more violent and bloody it is the shorter it lasts. Complaining does nothing to change that.

>>136371940
Sage

>>136373368
Maybe it is your fault your Dad hates you.

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>>136372474
ACTUALLY THIS.

I enjoy the two nukes not enough meme, but the Manhattan Project would have neither been authorized nor been completed without the jews. It was not in the interest of the white American taxpayer to fund it. So badly did the jews want to teach Germany a lesson that they were willing to risk the apocalypse.

Obviously defeating Germany was one of their motivations, but their other motivation, which was stated openly and constantly, was to end all war. What that meant specifically was setting up an international nuclear authority: in essence, one world government.

It wasn't that they were on our side so much as they wanted our money. All the jews of that era were commies. Everyone knew Russia wasn't rich enough to fund such a project, so they had to get America to fund it with the intention of leaking the plans to Russia afterwards, and that's how Russia got the bomb. Jewish commie security threats were given security clearances left and right because of Oppenheimer and others.

One more tidbit.
Japan would have surrendered many weeks earlier under one single condition: the Emperor must remain on his throne.
But America wanted an unconditional surrender, which we got.
Here's the kicker. Why then did we allow the Emperor to remain on his throne ANYWAY? Something doesn't add up.

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>>136378075

Here's a fun game - try not to use any noun ending in "ist". It makes the Jew bullshit evaporate and you're forced to consider making a rational post instead.

>>136378260
>muh nihilism

you ironically seem to be committed to not caring. good luck with that.

>>136375972
>>murdering civilians
>>legitimate warfare
Welcome to total war, faggot.

>>136377937
Economic warfare, have you heard of it?
In June 1940, Henry L. Stimson, who had been secretary of war under Taft and secretary of state under Hoover, became secretary of war again. Stimson was a lion of the Anglophile, northeastern upper crust and no friend of the Japanese. In support of the so-called Open Door Policy for China, Stimson favored the use of economic sanctions to obstruct Japan’s advance in Asia. Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau and Interior Secretary Harold Ickes vigorously endorsed this policy. Roosevelt hoped that such sanctions would goad the Japanese into making a rash mistake by launching a war against the United States, which would bring in Germany because Japan and Germany were allied.

Accordingly, the Roosevelt administration, while curtly dismissing Japanese diplomatic overtures to harmonize relations, imposed a series of increasingly stringent economic sanctions on Japan. In 1939 the United States terminated the 1911 commercial treaty with Japan. “On July 2, 1940, Roosevelt signed the Export Control Act, authorizing the President to license or prohibit the export of essential defense materials.” Under this authority, “[o]n July 31, exports of aviation motor fuels and lubricants and No. 1 heavy melting iron and steel scrap were restricted.” Next, in a move aimed at Japan, Roosevelt slapped an embargo, effective October 16, “on all exports of scrap iron and steel to destinations other than Britain and the nations of the Western Hemisphere.” Finally, on July 26, 1941, Roosevelt “froze Japanese assets in the United States, thus bringing commercial relations between the nations to an effective end. One week later Roosevelt embargoed the export of such grades of oil as still were in commercial flow to Japan.”[2] The British and the Dutch followed suit, embargoing exports to Japan from their colonies in southeast Asia.

>>136371940
only when London apologizes for the Dresden Bombings.

And why shouldn't we apologize for firebombing Tokyo?

>>136378140
German presidents apologize for WWII almost everyday.

>>136371940
Remember nanking?

>>136372470
This post reads like a 4th grader wrote it

>>136375972
you do know the the bombs were dropped on 6 and 9th of august, the soviet invasion was on the 8th? The japanese war cabinet announced surrender on the 15th. Only the signing of the peace treaty was not before a month after

>>136378351
here's a fun game

kill yourself ;)

>>136371940
The war would have been prolonged if not for the atomic bombs.

>>136378366
welcome to stupidity, jackass. basically you're saying it's cool for chaos and violence to spread to everyone, including people who were never involved.

you're the reason the rest of the world hates us

Would you rather be napalmed?

>>136373392
This. The samurai had to be tamed.

>>136378357
No, just don't waste my time on things that I can't change.

>>136378366
>what are rules of engagement the post
Neck yourself iliterate faggot

>>136371940

On behalf of the US, KYS OP.

>>136378429
so rather than waiting to drop the bomb, the u.s. did it at the same time of a russian invasion to try to claim bragging rights for "ending" the war.

got it.

>>136371940
No. Because it was an act of war. So the japanese should pardon for the treatment towards the POW

>>136378260
No terrorism is purposefully killing civilians in order to create fear and force political consequences.

>>136378639
you first

>>136378524
Since you seem to be on the side of the rest of the world go be with them. The US does not require an exit visa. Leave.

>>136372183
>referring to yourself in this hypothetical
>implying you'd ever have power over where to send nukes

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>>136373048

>>136378731
why should i leave? people like you are the problem.

>>136378524
It was WW2. Every participant with a major air force was bombing civilians at some point.
Either to terrorize them, to divert enemy resources away from the battlefield so they could defend their own people, or to kill the people who worked in factories that supplied the war effort.
Today, it would never fly and should not be tolerated. Nations of today have weapons that can hit a specific building or small target. Back then, if you wanted to hit the target, you either used a very big bomb or waves of bombers.

>>136371940
neither are a big deal. the fire bombing raids killed more people. 2 nukes didnt even erase all life on one island of japan let along all of it. japans like the side of the state of florida

nuclear war is bad ass and we need some of that badassery to fight global jewery. people talking about 30+ genders and being pansexuals and shit yea israel needs to be wiped off the face of the earth

>>136371940
happy holidays

>>136371940
Really, why is it that attacking military targets is better? Why is that not a war crime? Are those men in uniform not also people of those nations? Are they not mostly conscripts who have no choice but to fight or face prison or execution? Its better to attack the people after they have been enslaved and put into a uniform, right? Attacking the people that the government pulls from to fund and supply the slaves they make fight for them is just wrong, a war crime, but if we bomb those people after theyre enslaved by the military there is no crime in that?

You lack understanding of the real atrocity here. No sane human being would choose to face and unleash random machine based death and atomic bombs, and they didnt. If governments didnt have the power to enslave young males for fighting, all sides would go home due to lack of willing volunteers. Most men will protect their homeland, you dont need to force that. You must force people to hop into and commit massacres.

Why are war crimes a thing? It's fucking war. The object is to destroy the opponent. Not pander and whine about their poor wittle feewings

>>136378807
What problem?

the amount of edge in this thread is off the charts

>>136375376
No he just visited, Japanese prime minister when to Pearl Harbor, Obama when to Hiroshima. Neather one apologized during their visits. Both country's still feel justified in their actions, and basically just don't talk about it.

Lemme bring out the beer.

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>>136378818
>everyone was doing it

are you 5 years old?

What's the harm in apologizing? But I think China might be a bit pissed if Japan didn't simultaneously apologize some more. Sometimes it is polite to apologize for the correct and obvious decision at the time.

>>136371940
We dropped flyers warning people to evacuate the city before we bombed it, so that makes it ok

>>136375972
Murdering civilians is a legitimate part of war, e.g., every conflict in human history.

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>>136378852
Because without even the most basic rules wars can be 10 times worst.

>>136378903
No, but you may be if you didn't get the point of my post.

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>>136378852
It's just bullshit from weaklings, it means nothing but they'll swarm you like gnats if you let them.

>>136378871
the "if you don't like it you should leave" platitude. it's because you're weak and you don't have any good arguments.

how about this.

if you don't like rational thinking, egalitarianism and if you're triggered by peace, you leave. i'm sure you can make it out there, what with you having such a "rugged" worldview. right?

>>136375582
Philippines?

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>>136371940
It was just another day of being American. We refuse to apologize to niggers and redskins why the fuck would this be any different?

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CHING CHANG CHONG

>>136375972
Killing civilians is war. Soldiers are just civilians with guns. If you want to take over land, you have to kill everyone.

>>136378852
the u.s. is a security member of the u.n.

if war crimes aren't a thing, then the u.s. is STILL a hypocrite for being leaders in organizations that define war crimes

>>136378930
There will never be an apology, nor should there be. Japan does not seek an apology because they know the bombs really were the lesser of two evils and that the war ended in a much less bloodier way than it could have.
The only people you see advocating for apology are fools who don't see the circumstances of the war or that just dislike the US and want to shame it however they can.

>>136379085
>Triggered by peace
Those two bombs triggered some peace.

>>136371940
Be happy that the US didn't nuked the entire country. They did that because they had sympathy with the japs since a real invasion of the mainland would have caused way more deaths.

>>136378050
isn't this some acid attack?

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>>136371940
Its a war almost every side of the battle commited terrible deeds you can't have everyone bending over pretending to give a fuck for what happened when the world was at each others throats, im sure all the atrocities they commited against the chinese and pearl harbor were just accidents right whoops their bad. Surely you are not as stupid as you sound. Our british allies sent troops shit information on a beach landing in gallipoli needlessly killing several thousand people for no reason at all but we dont ask them to apologise we get over it. People chose sides you reap what you sew.

>>136379134
so you're a terrorist and you're okay with killing kids.

got it.

>>136373764
That picture is bad and you should feel bad

>>136379226
nope. no they didn't. japan was going to surrender.

>>136379301
the attack on pearl harbor was allowed to happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR8Oe3mDF0s

>>136379351
Then why didn't they?
>We'll surrender as long as you let us dictate how
That's not how it works.

>>136379309
Is it terrorism if his goal isn't to scare the enemy but to annihilate them? I think that's usually called genocide. Fits with his flag anyway.

>>136377569
Didn't make him any less right. We wanted unconditional surrender and we got it. Calling him a bigot and a racist is pointless and just shows how stupid and blind you really are. Neck yourself.

>>136373764
0/10 please never use it again

>>136379425
it's called diplomacy. have you ever tried it?

you know, like -talking-? using your words?

>>136378670
Its highly disputed how much of a role the race between the soviet and the americans had on the dropping of the atomic bomb. Many proponents of this theory proposes that the US feared that the soviets would invade Japan from the north and claim more territory in Asia. Although this would be highly unlikely considering the soviets had no written plans or naval preparation to conduct such a operation.

I think the main reason for dropping the bomb was just another in the line of attempts of the americans to shock the Japanese into a surrender. They had already tried firebombing, naval blockade neither of which had made the japanese goverment show any sign of surrender. The date of the invasion of japan (11th november) was drawing every closer and the american goverment wanted to prevent having to invade at any cost. Its not weird to see why they chose to use the atomic bomb. They had already firebombed way more civilians to death than the bomb would ever kill.

>>136379351
Really? And you know this because you're 117 years old and you were a member of the Japanese government?

>>136377760
bc pretty much everyone in japan is annoyed by that shitshow ... it's kinda like ww2 and germany, but even worse. .. like holocaust and germany. and they can't even say shit like "it neva happened" or "the generals did nothing wrong"

>>136379440
you first

>>136379506
The Japanese government was irrelevant at the point. If the Army wanted to keep fighting, and the emperor had not spoken out against them, it would have.

>>136371940
We're infested with niggers. Trust me, we're paying our penance.

>>136379484
> It's called diplomacy
Demonstrates diplomacy with shrill harangue

>>136379484
The US did tried that up until December 7th, 1941.
Japan's the side that decided war was the only option.
Japan had every chance for four years to surrender or try to negotiate peace. They didn't take those chances until it was far too late.

>>136379590
they're infested with slopes

>>136371940
>Losing the war to America made Japan one of most successful countries of 20th century, and it still is fairly successful
>implying that's something America should apologize for

Japs can only blame themselves for refusing to surrender when the war was lost anyway. If they needed a stronger message, it's their problem.

>>136375643
You fucking retarded chimp, there where people that survived direct bombing in Hiroshima and they wrote down there accounts of it. That's how we know about people running into the river to get away from the extream heat created by the bomb, skin melting off of people in sheets, radioactive black rain coming back down people drinking it and dying almost instantly from the radiation in the rain.

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>>136371940
Americans will pay for their crimes. Their nation will be destroyed in one hour. No one will help them and foreign armies will invade what is left of their country:

http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/7-countries-attack-israel-america-is-attacked-by-at-least-6-other-nations-a-prophecy-by-constantine-1959

Revelation 18:2
. 2And he cried out in a mighty voice: “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a lair of demons. She is a haunt for every unclean spirit, a hideout for every unclean bird, and a hold for every detestable beast.

Revelation 18:10
0In fear of her torment, they will stand at a distance and cry out: “Woe, woe to the great city, the mighty city of Babylon! For in a single hour your judgment has come.”
https://biblehub.com/revelation/18-10.htm

http://www.deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx

>>136379309
>muh childs

The boys straight out of hs who were drafted were children too, dummy. And they had no choice. Its not any more moral to kill them is the point, stop making false distinctions and emotional arguments and try to actually think so that we can avoid atrocity in the future.

>>136379502
shock would have only required one bomb, but the timing of the bombs did not allow for japan to even react to russian troops amassing in manchuria. the decision to drop atom bombs shows that the u.s. was not interested in de-escalation. dick move, and consequently many parts of the world hate the u.s. specifically because of bullshit like we're talking about

How come Hiroshima is seen as a war crime but the far worse bombings of Dresden, Hamburg, etc. are seen as justified? I think both were bad it's just hypocritical because one of the victims were white

>>136379721
false. FDR had economic sanctions put on Japan.

>>136379351
not unconditionally.

>>136379806
>drafting kids is a great excuse to have the drafted kids kill more kids in other countries

you're fucking scum, dude.

>>136379915
Or even the fire-bombing of Tokyo? It's because most people don't actually believe a war can be conducted morally. They simply use it as a weapon to beat whichever country they don't like at the moment.

>>136379915
none of it is justified. they're all war crimes

>>136379924
Sanctions =/= war.
They were attempts to pressure Japan to stop their aggression in Asia without going to war.
A peaceful solution to a crisis or problem and attempts to negotiate- diplomacy.

>>136373368
Found the shitskin

>>136380016
>my conditional terms require you to capitulate the way i want

are you 5 years old?

>>136380070
You should prosecute the people responsible, anon

>>136380113
false.

sanctions began years before japan's invasion of china

>>136379915
>Dresden, Hamburg, etc. are seen as justified?
>Those aren't considered war crimes too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II#Arguments_against_justification

>>136379484
Lol no, if you pick a fight you dont get to then negotiate the terms of the interaction when your attacks are unaffective. Unconditional surrender is what we said we would get and we got it, they shouldn't have been deluded enough to think theu could bargain when they were the aggressors.

>>136371940
Japs had it coming.

>>136380136
>Are you 5 years old?
You keep asking this. Why?

>>136373368
nigger spotted

>>136380230
With their invasion of Manchuria which then and now is considered a part of China.

>>136377569
That first sentence is bullshit. My uncle witnessed the Nagasaki bomb plume from his POW camp. Two days after the blast, the guards vacated the camp. Two weeks after that, he was a free man.

>>136380253
the u.s. picked a fight when they put sanctions on japan years before japan even invaded china

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>>136371940
>>136379804
have you guys even seen the anime posters on this board? fuck japan, 2 nukes was clearly not enough.

>>136372658
yeah, but there is a lot of chinese and there are not that many jews, jews are basically worth more. its like a footsoldier and a canon in a risk game.

>>136371940
Honestly the two nukes were more justified than firebombing Tokyo. The Japs kind of had it all coming because they had dispersed industry unlike everyone else. They had a significant cottage industry so residences were literally military targets. If anything Allied and Axis bombing of cities in Europe was a bigger problem since it was just out of laziness and incompetence. Too hard to hit only the important targets so they just said fuck it and didn't bother

>>136373185

So ending the war by any means is ethical? So why shouldnt any war be done quickly and effectivily by all sides through use of brutual force

>>136377848
>Implying TOTAL war isn't terrorism, or include features of terrorism.

Hey, idiot. That's kind of why it's called, TOTAL WAR.

Japan's Emperor would have sold both his nuts for the ability to bomb the US mainland with heavy bombers.

>>136371940
America doesn't owe you or anyone else shit. It was war. Bad shit happens in war. If Japan didn't want to be nuked, they shouldn't have attacked Pearl Harbor. Remember, they attacked us without warning first.

>>136380350
Which sanctions? What year?

>>136380347
and yet the civil rights movement was targetted by the u.s. government even after africans had fought in WW2

truman was a racist fuck

>>136374766
You're disabled. The govt of Japan and Hirohito actively tried to surrender before and after the first bomb was dropped but a military coup prevented this from happening. It was after the second bomb was dropped and the coup failed that the Japanese govt was allowed to surrender

>>136380026
No it isnt you presumptuous fool. I didnt say it was ok. Im saying killing drafted soldiers (slaves) is just as evil as killing civilians. Making an arbitrary distinction because one child is forced to wear a uniform and march is retarded, i hope you dont want to be right so bad that you are blind to that, because youre wrong.

>>136380136
When you're losing that decisively you do not get to set the terms of surrender. Throw in the towel or fight to the end. That's how it is.
Not arguing morality, only reality. You live in some childish fantasy world.

>>136380230
Japan invaded China in 1931, and again in 1937.
American sanctions began in 1938.
Try again.

>>136380494
>emperor would not have surrendered
>emperor would have tried to attack the U.S. again

nice citation you got there