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Concerned Femanon here

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How do we realistically increase white birth rates without restricting female rights? I know many here believe that implementing "white Sharia" will somehow solve the problem despite no evidence of this being true. Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation, and our economy would collapse if women were banned from the workplace. So how do we deal with our demographic problems without behaving like misogynistic savages. Constructive arguments please.
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>>136339830
women shouldnt have rights.
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>>136339830
>Femanon here

That's a damn lie and you know it
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>>136339830
Tits with timestamp or get the FUCK out.
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>>136339830
You don't. It really is that simple.

next
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>Female
>Rights
Pick one and only one
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By not being a fucking cuck who doesn't stand up for what they believe In. I believe all glory from myself goes to my father I want none of it
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>Woman
>AnCap
Checks out.
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>>136339830
Fuck off
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>>136339830
White people are too smart to have children.
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>>136339830
post feet
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>>136339830
Why do you have to mention you're a 'femanon' do you see males mentioning they're 'malenons' or some shit? You don't have to have a vagina to be able to talk about reproductive rights, you know.
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>>136339830

We are literally stronger than you and we will simply re-enslave you and there is nothing you can do about it.
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Would only work if Chad stopped fucking them and demanded a harem of wives. Sorry us betas would be left out
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>>136339830
>Constructive arguments
constructing a timestamp and placing it near your naked breasts will speed this along
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>>136339830
White birth rates would be the highest on the world if there were no niggers, hispanics etc.
Non-white genocide would put us on top of the world.
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Change the dating paradigm. The traditional 'men approach and woo women' model no longer works for a growing number of men, because they prefer to simply give up or rely on pornography and masturbation rather than face the dating gauntlet as it has traditionally existed.
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>>136339830
>Concerned Femanon here

Tits or GTFO
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>>136339830
get rid of social media and other bullshit that destroy our youth
and promote christianity
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Acid in the face for those that want liberation.
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>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation

I'm assuming this is bait but just to entertain you, I highly doubt this is true. "Liberation" provably, objectively makes women less happy than a traditional lifestyle. Sources:

https://archive.fo/VTNYp
https://archive.fo/PYMab
https://archive.fo/RDIv7
https://archive.fo/RsD2R

Women choose career over home and hearth because society pushes them too, not because it makes them happier.

If we replace the current state-academic-media establishment with a traditionalist one, women will go back to a traditional lifestyle and be happier for it.
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>>136339830
>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation
Liberation? You were sold into slavery along with your men. Working isn't liberating, it's enslaving.

We worked to keep you free from the dogshit world of work. But you let the Jew convince you that it would be better if you worked and rejected marriage.

The birth rate will not go up until the marriage rate goes up and the divorce rate goes down. Marriage rates won't go up until men are less fearful of divorce ruining their life. Step one is changing divorce laws so that men don't have their entire lives ruined.

After that it is necessary to provide significant benefits to married couples who have children. Specifically native born citizens and not immigrants. People tend to avoid marriage because of the risk of divorce which poses severe financial burden. The reason people don't have children is similar because it is also a result of concern over the financial obligation associated with children.

People feel more secure staying single without children these days. That is the root of the issue. If you can make people feel secure about getting married and having children then you can begin to heal the wound.

But the first thing you should do is check your ridiculous "liberated" mentality at the fucking door. Being the housewife of a loving husband should be your fucking dream life.
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>>136339830
>Femanon here

Why do you do this? There is nothing gendered about this issue. If you say this in a reply when it is relevant then it makes sense and their is no problem. This is the reason for the existence of "tits or GTFO". So...tits or GTFO.

Sorry, I can't take you seriously when you conduct yourself this way, do better in the future.
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I fuck girls so good they instantly transform into a submissive, 1950s housewife.
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>>136339968
It is absolutely essential for the good of the white race that footfags get the gas first, on the day of the rope
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>>136339830
How do you get large numbers of average IQ dummies to do anything? Make it cool. That's the answer.
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>>136339830
This is all cognitive dissonance and you know it. At the end of the day, the only way to fix society and arise from the ashes of degeneracy is to restrict the right to vote from women. This notion that the economy would collapse if women had no rights is silly, since we could just fill the positions with the immigrants that your demographic willingly voted into this country. Women would be put back in their place where they belong, and white men could save the western world from its premature death you all seem so keen on bringing about.
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>>136339830
TITS AND TIMESTAMP
>sage
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>>136339830
The economy wouldn't collapse, if anything it would make wages rise due to increased competition for labor. Less than a hundred years ago, a man could be the sole worker for a household and the family had enough for everything they needed. Now that the labor force expanded wages are lower due to companys being able to replace workers at little to no cost save the minimal training they get. Tldr you got sold a lie that you should work and be "liberated" when now you are just a shlub that has to work and compete doing a job that you hate just like everyone else, instead of chilling at home with a glass of wine and whatever other idle pursuits to make your dumb ass happy.
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>>136340078
This. I had to get off instagram because of all the (((degeneracy))) and I see girls using that app all the time. Insta trains them to show tits and be hoes for likes via dopamine
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>>136339830
The only reason to say that you are female, should be to put your tits on display. Otherwise gender does not matter in an internet post.
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>>136339830
killing the welfare state would do it just fine
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>>136340182
Uhhh women were slaves to men before they were able to work to earn a living and live independently.
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Post your disgusting tits so we can all laugh at you.
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>>136339830
>>136340497
fuck off retard, you're not fooling anyone
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>>136340497
Men and women are complementary to each other, not opposed to each other.

You could say that having someone to work for you, pay your bills, and take care of you is actually very liberating.
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>>136339830
>How do we realistically increase white birth rates without restricting female rights?
1. We need to abolish social security and pensions.
2. We need to legalize market trade in children. This enables some women to specialize in producing kids.
3. Market competition increases their quality and the demand for good kids will rise.
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>>136339830
Didn't actually read your full post before because answer is obvious (see: >>136340202)

But just saw that you wrote this:
>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation
False. Look at any statistics about women's happiness since entering the workplace. It reliably tanks in ever culture in which this happens. Women who dedicate more time to their career (their "liberation") are more unhappy in proportion to how much time and effort they dedicate to it. The fact that most women would actually be happier if they went back to traditional roles means that if you can make it cool it will actually stick. Various people and movements are already making it cool. And the unhappiness of feminist-role-model high-powered-career women is a widely discussed phenomenon even (or especially) among the left. Even they know the answer, however long it will take them to admit it, that they'd prefer to live in a more traditional way.

None of this requires changing the legal status of women. Just education and marketing, i.e. informational manipulation, i.e. meme-ing.
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>>136340715
>why nobody supports ancaps, the post
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will you stupid niggers stop replying to stale as fuck b8 without saging?
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>>136339830
There is no such thing as white, stop trying to lump together groups that hate each other.
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>>136339830
Fucking whores like you who think brushing your teeth with a dick 3 times a day is "a taste of freedom" are the reason the west is going to shit.
I pray to God to give us latinamericans the strenght to remain faithful to his word And laws until the great Satan collapses.

Enjoy your "freedom" while you can, because once the satanic anglosaxons are done, you'll be treated like the disgusting cum stained impure slut you are.

Virgins will be proud wives and mothers again.
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>>136339933
Those digits...... she has to do it now
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>>136339830
If you've lurked at all, you already know the consensus of /pol/. The only way to increase birth rates is for women to pop out more babies. It's not about rights, but choices. If a woman works herself to a frazzle until she's middle aged and on the brink of menopause, she's effectively taken herself out of the gene pool. Since women refuse to marry men of lower status than themselves, their pool of potential mates is small and competition is fierce. Older women need not apply. Since the bulk of "ordinary men" are of not a high enough status to be worthy of marriage or even casual sex, "ordinary men" have no incentive to contribute to the cause of making a world that's better for future generations.

In other words, step down, fuck down, or go extinct. It's pretty simple.
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>>136339830
>despite no evidence of this being true

Have you checked pre-abortion, pre-sex-ed, pre-feminazism birth rates?
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>>136340497
>Uhhh women were slaves to men before they were able to work to earn a living and live independently.
Confirmed fat neckbeard troll.

2/10 since I replied twice.
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>>136339830
> tfw no trad chad bf.
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>>136339830
>implying /pol/ cares
>implying /pol/ wants women to have liberation
>implying /pol/ opinions matter
>a fem anon that doesn't want to be a trad wife
>good luck finding a "trad" man that won't try to change you
>an cap flag
>sage
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How many kids do you have?
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>>136339830
Remove all laws favoring females over men.. Let them compete on equal footing, the vast majority will choose the kitchen.
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>>136339830
>Wants to increase birth rates
>Still wants feminism.

Pick one thot
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>>136339830
Have more kids, it's that simple.
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kill yourself whore
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>>136339972
White bois after our malenons n sheeeit again.
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>>136339891
/thread
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>>136340497
>women were slaves
This is feminist's bullshit. Sex never mattered. Anyone could become enslaved. Men are still enslaved by conscription and alimony. Only women are free.
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>>136339830
My little sister wants redpilled female friends. Or a non-NEET husband.

She is:
- white/caucasian
- Anglo-American
- mid 20's
- dirty blonde
- green eyes
- 1.71m, 60kg/5'7, 135lbs
- Measures 32B-25-38
- IQ is +2-3σ, ~130-145
- siblings all have IQs in this range or higher
- father's IQ professionally tested and verified at 175
- mother's very fertile, ~10 children
- Parents are each other's only spouse and remain married
- No adopted, half, or step siblings
- Trad Catholic
- Wants to get married and have kids
- Supports white sharia and opposes women's suffrage, but she feels it would be hypocritical for her to publicly advocate for it.
- opposes men's suffrage too because we were dumb enough to let women vote
- grad student (lucrative degree, easy to go part time)
- REALLY redpilled on the JQ.

Sooooo any actual girls wanna be friends with her? Any of you NEETs wanna claim that I'm LARPing?
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>>136341300
>1.71m, 60kg
Too fat
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>>136339830
you're getting white sharia and you're gonna be fuckin pleased about it, cunt.
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>>136339830
>female
tits or gtfo
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By making it illegal to insult straight white men.
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>>136341394
Post the Bane gif with White Sharia on it.
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>>136339891
FPBP
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>>136340075
That is because most women have become entitled bitches and thus the pond from which I may potentially fish has become utter shit.
To fix this we need to make sure girls are educated in the right way, so that they have actual value in the dating pool instead of shitting them up with SJW propaganda during school.
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>>136340018
and more resourceful, intelligent, competent, experienced, willful, etc.
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>>136339830
>collapse

It is the only way.
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>>136339830
we need to restrict all rights, democracy leads to weak leadership
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It's sadly easy. Give subsidies to people who have more than (x) children.
But (((/pol/))) doesn't like people living off state welfare.
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>>136339830

It doesn't fucking matter femanon.

The bells been rung. White women will never show the backbone or take ownership of the responsibility of defending and propagating their race.

It was always men. For hundreds of thousands of years.

Less than 100 years of female freedom... and well...here we are.

Thanks. Thank you guys so fucking much. Its been a fucking pleasure. Really. So good.

So worth all the centuries of brutal war and backbreaking labor to get us here just to be spat on by you and your fucking jew puppeteers. Absolutely worth it. 100%

Cool.
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>>136341388
This is not her, got this from Google, but it's almost exactly what her figure looks like. This girl is 1.69m and 60kg.

60kg is a normal, healthy weight for her at her height. Just like 100kg is normal and healthy for me at 1.98m
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State sponsored breeding programme. Keeping a fit, attractive, healthy, smart stock of humans is essential for keeping a nation. with modern technology, you don't even need females.

Those nazis were on to something. Once you put in the above parameters into the requirements; only blonde, blue eyes white people will come out.
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>>136339830
forget about your figure
forget about stretch marks
and oil up that lil puussay
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Well you can still find nice wives these days, (probably just 30% of western women).

The only thing we can do is literally just push all of these women towards not having any kids. Then the next generation will be all good women even in the face of the propaganda.

So in short.
Step 1. Try and marry a nice women between 18-24 ideally Christian, and put lots of babies in her.
Step 2. If step 1 fails, try and go for a woman 25-29 who actually didn't waste her younger years and actually accomplished something like a useful career.
Step 3. If step 2 also fails, try and waste the time of all roasties 30+ so that they never have children. Bring in policies that are a disincentive to be a single mother (reduced welfare, abortion, no payments for sperm / egg donations / illegal surrogacy etc etc you get the idea).
Step 4. ???
Step 5. Profit all women left in next generation were good women who married between 18-29 and ideally 18-24 and had children.
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Femanon here. What is this reddit thing and how do I get there?
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>>136339830
Why do they need to be banned? And what freedom are you talking about that you can't enjoy as a wife and mother? The cock carosel? That's literally the only one. Raise your kids until they're old enough to take care of themselves after school and then go get your graduate degrees and good jobs and shit.
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>>136341947
Obese bitch
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>>136339830 (OP)
Evolve with the times. Children need parents that care and make money. Rather than assigning one person to both tasks, both parents can now take care of both. It doesn't require anyone giving up their liberation.

The bigger problem I see is that children are discouraged as much as they are. Many white people simply have no child wish, and they feel too responsible to make one without being there for them. I only ever hear people in my age talking about the burdens of a child, and how much their life is restricted once they have them. That framework needs serious adjustments. For me, raising children right would be my source of pride and happiness.

We can raise children extremely well as equal partners. We just need to want to.
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>>136341791
weak government only works in an all white society.
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>>136341270
>Enslaved by conscription
desu it was the best time of my life
ww3 now pls
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>>136339830
>State sponsored breeding programme.
You mean marriage before the fags got ahold of it?
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>>136340497
This is the bullshit the destroys the west.

Men AND women are slaves to eachother. Both submit to serve the other, or else society dissolves into indulgence and vain pride.

Else, get rid of god, and while you remove all barriers, you utterly lose your identity, pecking over garbage like "work" for no purpose but inane pursuits but 'empowerment' or something else equally frivolous.

Who are you
Why are you here
Where are you going

Former dictates the latter.
If you define the former, the latter emerge by matter of consequence.
Degenerate the former with a meaningless definition and similarly, the latter have no meaning, leaving you with a purposeless, directionless society that serves no one, and benefits the same.
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>>136339830
>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation
You roasties really are going to be replaced by sexbots.
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>>136339830
To be honest, we just need to reduce the birth rates of any non-whites. We're having a massive overpopulation crisis, our planet simply wasn't meant to be able to cope with 7.4 billion people. By reducing non-white birth rates and keeping white birth rates, we kind of prevent this.
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>>136342005
In case you are not kidding, I give the link https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/

Also, the female gender must be abolished.
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>>136340497

Men designed and built the system that allows women to live independently.

Sure you aren't still slaves?

Lets remove the state and see what happens.

>pats her on the head
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>>136339830
Assuming this is genuine, you can't. Mind you I don't think complete freedom works for men or women. But at the very least women need to be discouraged or removed wholesale from careers, at least until after they've raised a few children. I also think the approach to families needs to be changed, discourage abortion and divorce, possibly set up state funding to help young families. The latter would only ever work in a white homogeneous state, though.
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You can't, it's as simple as that. Just like you can't eat a tub of butter and hope not to turn into a lard-ass. One thing excludes the other.
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>>136342143
this.
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>>136339830
Females have no rights.
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>>136341947
>fat ankles
disgusting
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>>136341300
>IQ is +2-3σ, ~130-145
Is that real IQ or """"female adjusted IQ scale"""" IQ?
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Femanon here, my fingers are not cutting it, can someone come here and fuck me, please?
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Realistically the ideal solution is keeping white states white then it wouldn't matter.

The only real concern here is whites being out numbered in our own countries. This leads to non whites having more voting power. People in Japan have barely been fucking for decades but they don't have to worry about a group of others essentially taking over their nation because of this fact.

Things would just ebb and flow with birthrate over decades but whites wouldnt be vulnerable. We are never going to out breed blacks and arabs with our advanced societies.
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>>136339830
BIRTH RATES AREN'T THE PROBLEM

IT'S THE DISPLACEMENT LEVEL MASS IMMIGRATION THAT IS

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MEME A BABY BOOM INTO EXISTENCE FUCK OFF
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>>136342098
this is true. that's why we have to remove all nonwhites.
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>>136342399
your vile roastie tricks won't work here.
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>>136339830
>and our economy would collapse if women were banned from the workplace
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAH
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>>136342521
Haven't gotten laid yet, that's why I use my fingers.
Any help?
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>>136342131
>it was the best time of my life
If true, you would continue serving in military. And if men a enjoying this abusive practice, why the state threatens them by prison sentence?

For example, studying in college is boring, but people do it and nobody punishes them for not studying.
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>>136342421
automation is the perfect solution for (((demographics))). there's no reason to import degenerate 3rd worlders whatsoever.
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>>136339830
White nationalism would solve every issue. Women will go back to the kitchen, as you say, when Jews aren't fucking everything up anymore.
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>>136342569
no, slag. you are lucky i responded to you once.
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>>136341947
Sorry dude /pol/ only likes women with a feminine benis. Oh and have fun larping.
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>>136342591
Just use the Finnish flag you dimwit.

And it's because during the basic training I didn't vouch to become a NCO. Something I will always regret but whatever.
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>>136340182
>People feel more secure staying single without children these days. That is the root of the issue. If you can make people feel secure about getting married and having children then you can begin to heal the wound.
Definitely some truth here.

>>136340182
>loving husband
Where? If you truly believe in the old ways you'd treat women with respect, not play this tired old "tits" shit. Yes, I understand this place. Yes, I understand the creed of the anon. But the point remains. So many here hate women, irrationally and unfairly considering that men still control and run most of the world, and look where we are. We have both done this, men and women alike. We are both at fault. And we need each other. When the NatSocs say we've let the Jew divide us to their own benefit, it's pretty much fucking true. All the MGTOW bullshit and verbal cruelty towards females here--even those who don't deserve it, the crucial point--doesn't help.

So again: loving husband, where? Where? Both genders have to try much, much harder to overcome the brainwashing.
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>>136340184
>There is nothing gendered about this issue
Having children? Has nothing gendered about it?
Are you joking?
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>>136339830
>without restricting female rights?
Why does that even bother you? If you are living with your family it doesn't even really affect you, it will still be business as usual. Why would you even want to live alone and independently when your instincts are so focused on group involvement and social status? You're not a man, who might actually enjoy his work or say that science and engineering is more important than fitting in.
>and our economy would collapse if women were banned from the workplace
It has actually obliterated wages and reduced the value of labor. You have made it impossible for a man to support his wife and have kids on a low-paying job, since the market expects both of them to work. Remember, as wages have stagnated the prices of everything else have gone up.

The widespread use of credit for things like home ownership, college education, medical care, etc. have made their prices arbitrary since no one pays out of pocket. They can ask whatever price they want since it will never stop people from buying in, no matter if they can afford it or not. This has made it virtually impossible to get any of this stuff without going into debt or paying a fee for the rest of your life, which sets the bar for wages which can support a family way higher. You know who supports social services, free college, universal college attendance, etc.? Women do.

So you're asking for politicians to pander to husbands and wives equally, driving them apart, while making the purchasing power of the average person too low to start a family. You also think it is acceptable to be independent, and in so doing simultaneously raise the price and lower the value of education while destroying wages and voting to increase taxes and regulations of all kinds. All this so you can make women more independent and sleep around until you are barely fertile at 35 and your looks are gone.

The birth rate is entirely your responsibility. You have systematically destroyed the family unit.
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>>136342663
>he thinks neo-Nazis of the 80's and 90's are somehow the same as modern day white nationalists

Sure is /leftypol/ in here.
I know many white nationalists that are
>attractive
>smart
>caring
>generally well rounded

Every day we become more popular with younger white people. White nationalism is by no means the degenerate neo-Nazis that the FBI all ran. Skinheads are literally only alive in Europe and in small numbers. Go fuck yourself.
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>>136340182
>Step one is changing divorce laws so that men don't have their entire lives ruined.
This socialist is surprisingly wise.
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>>136340213
Horseshit.
Look at all the male leaders and politicians who have made the world today, and all the men who schemed, planned, plotted, agitated for the left, all the men today who look at porn and hit 30 kissless virgins moaning about the destruction of the white race. Good god. And all the men who voted for Hillary. All the men who run the EU and sneer at the few sane men like Nigel Farage. All the smug male police officers in the UK protecting shitskins and arresting the few sane white men who try to rescue their daughters from monsters.

We are all responsible for this mess. Blaming it on on women is literal lunacy, because the one thing the fucking bitch feminist SJWs say which is true is that the power of women is nothing compared to the power of men.
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>>136342569
¡Enseña esas tetas, Paquito!
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You have to understand that women's rights have been responsible for most of society's current problems.

Studies have shown that women have been increasingly depressed since entering the work force and delaying child birth. You might be giving up some rights, but you'll be gaininf your happiness.
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>>136340707
Amen to all of this. Absolutely true.

I feel that the rare women who really do have outstanding skills and who want to work should do so; I don't want women with no gift for motherhood being forced to breed, I'd rather they contributed in whatever way is best for them. But most women aren't like that. Most women are creative. When they aren't having children, they're making delicious food, decorating, designing, gardening, making stuff, nesting, nurturing. It's what gives them the greatest joy. The vast majority of women should be supported in this as they once were, treasured for it like in the old days. It's a lucky man who has a woman like this on his side, and lucky kids with such a mother.
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>>136340751
You're spot on.
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>>136339830
>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives
Why not? Asians do it and they've been plenty free, it's just more enjoyable to have a purpose than be free and have everything crumble around you without a foundation to support it.
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>>136339830
It's simple - ban hormonal birth control like the pill. All those artificial hormones make bitches even more crazy, including making them more attracted to feminine men. Divorce rates also skyrocket when they get old & barren, come off the pill & return to their natural personality.
Take women off the drugs, and they'll go back to wanting to be traditional housewives.
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>>136340841
........when did you get the internet? I didn't know that latvia had a poo flag with a jizz streak in the middle Christ that's unsightly.
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>>136339830
Incentivise child birth.
Remove obstacles to household formation ie reasonable cost of housing for families.
Promote motherhood and child rearing. Even fucking breast feeding is considered as backwards right now, shows how back to front our ideas are on raising kids.

Bottle fed is just a meme pushed so mums can get back out clubbing within 2 months and start drinking wine with the rest of the degenerate females, propagating this irresponsible behaviour.

The problem is that now we have sizable "minorities" that welfare already acts as an incentive for them to breed, we have to separate their population groups incentives from ours.

Without shitlibs losing their minds and screaming racism.
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>>136342972
Dude, it was a shitpost. I'm white nationalist too.
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PENSIONS

It's simple really - if you have children you get a good pension. if you don't, it's bare bones.
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>>136343487

> it's just more enjoyable to have a purpose than be free and have everything crumble around you without a foundation to support it.
This applies to men, too.
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>>136339830
>How do we realistically increase white birth rates without restricting female rights?
We can't. Go back to kitchen. Feminism is all about destroying the family and you can't just choose bits in it you like.
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i want a female opinion on this article

https://jacobitemag.com/2017/08/01/late-feminism/
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>>136340915
+1 old habits die hard though. Hypergamy is going to be hard to over ride without a huge moral framework in society shaming people into acting civilised
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>>136341929
its already abused by niggers in the USA they get more welfare money for each kid
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>>136339830
Homogeneity seems like the only realistic answer at the moment. It's not our low birth rates per se, but the fact that we are beset by non whites who will outbreed us. Without them, our low birth rates would equate to increased power for the middle class, much like the black death caused an increase in prosperity for the peasant classes because there was too much work to be done and not enough workers. This is actually how the modern middle class began; with bargaining power that came about as a result of a dramatic decrease in population. This is what (((they))) want to prevent, and why they are importing so many third worlders.

Alternatively, you could try actually loving one of us for a change. Maybe that's impossible after being bombarded with a childhood full of (((Ken dolls))) and (((Disney))) movies, but you could at least try.
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>My personal liberties are more important than the future of my race

Fuck off, whore
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>>136340182
>Step one is changing divorce laws so that men don't have their entire lives ruined.
This is step two. Step one is killing all the Jews, because they will continuously 'pound the table', so to speak, to prevent anything like that from ever happening.
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>>136339830
You need to be in a House all your life.
That may sound extreme but look at what you have done with 50 plus years of unlimited freedom
You all have self destructive behaviours ingrained in you, & you have the brains of children
You can never be allowed freedom to influence the world again, for all you do is destroy the things we create when you have it.
We now know the only thing you are good for is procreation.
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>>136341300
Is she a virgin?
Because that's what really matters
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>>136339830

feminism must be exposed and defeated utterly. they recently tried to rebrand it as "oh its all about equality" not that is egalitarianism, not feminism. feminism is Dworkin and the like, who are just ugly jewess dykes who hate men, and try to encourage decent looking women to hate men so the dykes have a shot at scoring some okay pussy.
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>>136342663
those boobies.........
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>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation, and our economy would collapse if women were banned from the workplace.

Well obviously the economy MUST collapse before women reconsider being housewives again. Being a submissive housewife is not attractive to women if they can substitute the authority of their husband with that of a corporation or feminized government.

Once that corporation is bankrupt and the government either has no more gimmedats for you or the government is literally Fascist, you'll be FORCED to revert to your natural state or starve.

Also, I don't think women entering the workforce en masse since the 1970s is coincidental in regards to flatlining wages in the west.
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>>136343783
>1494130566366m.jpg
I think you saved the wrong image.
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>"white Sharia"
that's a great idea, we should call it that
thanks op

anyways you are generally inferior to males, i'm all for you having rights and free will, but equality isn't working, women are not mentally or emotionally stable and keep bitching and manipulating and shit testing and bickering. it would be so much easier if women would just shut the fuck up when told to, just some respect of who is wearing pants would be nice. restricting rights isn't required if everyone just remembers who is supposed to be in charge at the end of the day.

and frankly, women are kind of like dogs, in that they are not truly happy until they know who is in charge
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>>136342828
You're assuming these (((powerful men))) care about anyone but themselves and other globalists. To them, we are just sheep. In fact it's in their interests to destroy the average man since they see us as a threat.

The modern world is incredibly gynocentric. When it comes to dating, the workplace, society in general, higher education, women have it easier. Women under 30 now out earn men yet they're still parroting this lie that women earn less than men. Men are falling behind in school and are checking out of society in greater numbers.


Instead of trying to help and understand these men, your gender demonises and emasculate these them whilst claiming you're the ultimate victims and society is forced to cater to your genders every whim. Women have to start admitting that right now, they're the more privileged sex. But because of hypergamy and cognitive dissonance , the average woman doesn't care about the issues of the average man, since your either all repulsed by us or indifferent to the struggles of the average man. Yet we are all forced to care about your issues.

Like the other day, the MSM and social media were going crazy about how female suicides has reached a 40 year high. Yet they failed to mention that men are still 4 times more likely to kill themselves. Anyone who tries to raise awareness of men's issues are put down as MRA misogynists.

The vast majority of women are selfish pricks who only care about themselves. I've yet to see a women movement that stood up for men or raise male issues,yet millions of blue pilled men still support feminist who hate them. Women lack empathy for their fellow men, which is why globalists are doing whatever they can to empower women they know they can always count on the narcissistic sex to destroy the west.
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>>136339830

Homogeneity and raised incentives for children, so much so that a family can't just survive on a single worker + state child support, but actually thrive.
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>>136340075

There is nothing traditional about modern dating at all.
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Impose laws that restrict the number of kids immigrants/non-whites can have, too try to even out the ratio of white/non-white kids in every generation.
Also impose economic incentives for couples, hopefully making it more viable to have 2 or more kids. This should make it possible for the woman (or man, in some cases lol) to stay at home - yes, removing them from the workforce.
Then the government should blast pro-family propaganda directed towards young people. White ones, that is.
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>>136339830
>our economy would collapse if women were banned from the workplace
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>>136339830
>femanon
You're literally at the best position to help white race survive.
The whole reason white birthrates are declining is because white women have become whores and not a single white man can find a reliable wife to impregnate.

All you have to do is lead a conservative life and be the best wife you can for a non-degenerate husband and stick with him and his children for the remainder of your life.
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>>136344697
goodluck with that.. it would work 100% but the country that implemented would literally get invaded by the U.N. or some coalition.
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Op white men are pathetic and not suitable to be father's or good partners, just get yourself a middle eastern muslim male, as theyre more alpha and also atleast caucasian, if not white.

T. White female with Persian muslim bf.
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>>136339830
Your rights will fall along with western countries.

You pick enslavement to muslims and niggers. Or you pick a submissive but respected role with white men.
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>>136339830
Post feet.
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>>136342828
>So many here hate women, irrationally and unfairly considering that men still control and run most of the world
chick logic
apparantly there's no reason to hate women because they don't run most of the world, that makes total sense to her. all the complaints about women swept under the rug and once again everything is the fault of males

but hey, you get to pretend to be the reasonable one. typical woman
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>>136344893
whores do like that Oil money. well i hope it works out for you...because your dating white guys will never happen again
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>>136339830
>without restricting female rights
You don't. End of discussion. Cats out of the bag and it ain't getting back in though.
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>>136342067
>raising children right would be your source of happiness

Keep your woman at home then because I guarantee if you end up doing half a woman's work, you'll end up deeply unsatisfied.
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>>136343956
We might be past the point where shame and guilt could be effective. Like the Roman Empire, Western civilization will probably collapse and descend into chaos until a new patriarchy arises and enforces monogamy using the most draconian of measures.
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>our economy would collapse if women were banned from the workplace
Good joke. Men would just replace them.
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>>136344883
yes, its pretty impossible to implement in this day and age. Needs a stronk leader. So a beta like Trudeau would never be able to.
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>>136344789

>The whole reason white birthrates are declining is because white women have become whores and not a single white man can find a reliable wife to impregnate.

Even promiscuity in of itself is not a bad thing. It's promiscuity without consequence that is the issue.

I'm all for white women to spread their legs like the sluts they are, just as long as they keep the kid afterwards.
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>>136345031
>society collapses from 3rd world hordes
>last remaining whites build colony in rural area
>learning from the past they create new nation
>key rules is no rights for women

It will happen but only out of the ashes of civilization
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>>136339830
>ancap
Hahaha. The answer is right there you dumb fuck. Your whole ideology revolves around it. Every aspect of ancap is founded on property rights.
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>>136345013
>60% divorce rate in America and europe
>Implying I'd want a white guy.

Go be with your asian woman.
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>>136344893
>not white.

They're not white. Enjoy your shitskin kids whore.
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>>136341300
Can we stop calling it white sharia and giving more credence to the repulsive argument that traditionalism is akin to Islam.
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>>136345133
you need to make another Hitler already Fritz
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>>136344581
Probably, I'm a filthy mobile poster, I can't read it on my phone. I did watch the move it's from though. It shows how hitler would take power in modern germany. It's funny as hell and was actually made in germany.
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>>136339830
i know you guys dont REALLY want to work, though

just increase wages and lower housing costs, how to do that i dont know, but we really need to go back to single income families being viable
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>>136339830
By "rights" are you referring to the "right" to kill an infant that is capable of surviving outside of your whom?

Because killing other people isn't a right.
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>>136339830
Win a war and have a baby boom. Or cave in to MGTOW demands. Or take over the state media and promote traditional families. Better yet, all of the above, and give people money to white couples for every kid they have.
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>>136340075
>Change the dating paradigm. The traditional 'men approach and woo women' model no longer works for a growing number of men,

NOPE
wrong
hypergamy is already out of control, if women did all the approaching they would only approach chad. and women aren't attracted to men who can't approach anyways, period.

we've got to accept that the majority of women are not attracted and do not want to settle for the majority of men. despite these women frankly being pretty much intolerable they seem to have high demands, go figure. it's not going to change.
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>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation

The problem is, you have no traditional women skills.

Can you cook?
>Tell me the base of a soup, casserole, and several spice combinations for pot roasts.

Can you do any household maintenance tasks?
>Sewing, painting, cleaning? How many stitches do you know? How would you go about painting a wall? What cleaner do you use on varnished wood?

Do you even know how to plan a food budget?
>Can you plan for a week worth of meals for a family of 4? How much flour do you need per week?

The issue is, most western woman are not woman anymore. They are adult-children with vaginas. I can cook, bake, sew, repair plumbing and electrical, and nearly everything to run a home. I have never met a woman who could even make a pot roast from scratch.

That combined with no fault divorce and unfair alimony / child support payments, it is just cheaper and more rewarding to bang hookers and dump girl friends after the first month of crazy sex.
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>>136339830
Basically you faggots are just gonna have to face the fact that YOU CAN NOT FUCKING HAVE A FAMILY AND A CAREER, and grow the fuck up. You are a fucking woman for gods sake.
We make sacrifices galore to resist degeneracy, what do you do? "Ooh please don't make me cook and act like a mom" fuck you whore.
You don't get to change the world and not even change yourself. Change has to come or we die. Period. End of story.
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>>136339830
>after we've tasted liberation
They are only brainwashed to believe in it, 99% will be fine without rights.
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>>136345287
This is a half Persian half white person.

My kids will most probably look white as middle eastern genes get diluted pretty much entirely when mixed with whites from what I've personally seen, specifically Persians and Levantines.
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>>136339830
The question is why women make the wrong choices after being given these 'rights'? A birthrate of 2.1 or higher is neccessary for the survival of the group. If women aren't capable of chosing family over marketing shoes or whatever their jobs are then it seems restricting them is neccessary to ensure survival.
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It's fairly simple, you just make it less damaging to your finances to be a mother and a professional at the same time.

It's funny, liberals have the answer to ethno-nationalists problems, but ethnic nationalist doesn't want to take the advice of cucks. It's funny to watch.
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>>136340497
Good, then what we aim for should be halfway between here and there. If you can't grow the fuck up and accept your biological duties like we do ours, we will die. That's all there is to it. Now fuck off and go back to the club with your whore friends and pretend you're helping by doing literally fuckin nothing and spending all your money on makeup and dildos
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>>136339830
Shariablue pls go. You can scour the rest of the interwebs to try and undercut Trump. Denial, check, Rage, BIG FUCKING CHECK, bargaining - I guess that's where we're at. After your pathetic attempts at coaxing your way in, the depression will set in before the gents get the gallows ready. Put on your beat suit - you don't want to look bad when you're swinging like Saddam
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>>136339830
My wife is a homemaker and a stay at home mom, until our boys are old enough then she'll go back to teaching hot yoga.

I work 36-60 hours depending on if I feel salty enough for OT.

She cooks, cleans, etc. I manage the lawn, fix shit, etc.

There's plenty of us nordic midwestern chads that are family men, you just need to find one before you end up on 3 different SSRIs and have 6 cats.
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>>136339830
>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives

But you already have

>Women were liberated during the collapse of Rome.
> Women were kept in the kitchen 1700's - 1970.

Rome came first. You can go back.
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>>136345588
....that is gross looking. pencil neck, receding hairline at the age of twelve. This looks like a creature made out some nuclear disaster.
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>>136345312

Traditionalism in the modern Western context is 1950s style liberalism.

The rot was already too far underway by that time.

We need to go back further to the 19th century at least.

And yes, western women's fashion in the 19th century is more akin to muslim ideals of modesty than 21st century western fashion.

We need to find a focal point in history and replicate the ideals of the side that lost.

The last great civilization that didn't jerk off to the ideals of egalitarianism was German National Socialism.
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>>136342972
>I know many white nationalists that are
>>attractive
>>smart
>>caring
>>generally well rounded
you forgot edgy

i'm all for white pride and a future for white children etc. but dropping the race war larp for a moment and embracing civic nationalism is the only realistic way to move towards achieving anything at all. white nationalists will always be a small minority. we need immigration reform now, not endless years of turning people away from important policies by memeing hitlers image into every conservative issue
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Can we sell women emotional regulation brain chips to give them a quick boost of self-control? If not, why not? If the primary objection is "but they'll be used for other-control as well", is there any means by which we could make consumer trust rational for the consumer in such an exchange?
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>>136339830
>White birth rate increasing.
>Not restrict women's rights.
Lurk moar lesbo.
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>>136344634
>Men are falling behind in school and are checking out of society in greater numbers.
Nobody is forcing them to do this. Cucks will be cucks. Men with backbone stand up. You know that. You expect roasties, dumbass whores and coal burners to take responsibility (and they should!) Men need to do that too or nothing will get better.

>>136344634
>Like the other day, the MSM and social media were going crazy about how female suicides has reached a 40 year high. Yet they failed to mention that men are still 4 times more likely to kill themselves. Anyone who tries to raise awareness of men's issues are put down as MRA misogynists.
Fucking hell, I know that. I try to raise awareness about it anyway, all the time. I have nothing to lose thereby. I give a shit.

>>136344634
>your gender
No. Feminists, libshits, numales, kikes, leftist subversives, dyke activists and all the rest of the progressive filth do that. Most women do NOT. Most normal women, of whom there are many, love and sympathize with men and try to help, support, heal and nurture them. If you've never had a woman like that in your life that sucks, but stop speaking your personal hatred like facts. When you say women lack empathy, that's just nuts. Most women have too much fucking empathy and not enough critical intellect or toughness of mind. In that, they are a huge problem, for sure. But in general that's a libshit thing though. Libshit men are also too often spineless hypersensitive weenies who couldn't find their spine with a fork if you paid them to. Whereas the conservative women I know have literally zero sympathy for rapefugees, for example.

A lot of this is generational. I really feel bad for a lot of young guys nowadays. But still, you're speaking from an extremely unbalanced, biased point of view. Why, who knows, I don't know you. I hope you learn to reassess at some point, and not only get to know some wiser, more traditional and decent women, but also allow yourself to appreciate them.
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>>136345976
I agree, The Hitler meme is a big pill to swallow. it must be hidden and only used among small trusted inner circles
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>>136344893
>T. White female with Persian muslim bf.
Prove you're not bait or STFU
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>>136339830
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>>136339830
show me your tits or gtfo
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>>136344893
Post feet.
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>>136340028
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TRADITIONAL VALUES


Conservatives have stronger families and more children.

Religious people have stronger families and more children that atheists.

all statistically proven
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>>136345976

We need to go Afrikaner Broederbond-style. Form close knit groups of ideologically like-minded people and ruthlessly promote/hire eachother whilst excluding others.

It doesn't need to be explicit White Nationalism, I agree. It can be implicit, but it MUST be White Nationalism in some form or another.

Once the Boomers are dead a lot of our countries will be in a demographically perilous situation. At that point we need to be ready to take the reigns of power, or already have the reigns of power.

Civic Nationalism at that point is too late. Hell, it's debatable that Civic Nationalism in the USA is too late as well.
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The "problem" is that men today have too much backbone and women today also have too much backbone. You could try fixing this by breaking someone's backbone, but how about we try to find a mutually profitable solution?

Beyond the neurological idea I mentioned, I also think we should be investigating reproductive and genetic sciences to retain long-term reproductive viability in humans so that we can have a longer "career" lifestage to acquire necessary resources before we enter our "reproductive" lifestage.
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>>136339830
You can't change society. Have two kids and live a life. Women being envious of your family will be the most compelling argument. Sort yourself out
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>>136342041
Kek.
>>136342334
Thanks now I have to keep her from killing herself.
>>136342383
Sadly for her, real IQ. Based on standardized tests that are convertible I am around +4σ. My dad is +5σ, verified by a professional. We're too damn smart for our own good. Somehow my dad ended up having a grip of kids anyway. Yay! In a world where white families often have two kids, I was a little far down the waiting list.
>>136342663
BENIS xDDD she likes to identify as a cishet white male because she wants to win privilege bingo. I tell her that's bullshit and she doesn't care. And I will have fun pretending to hawk my sister to neo-nazis on an Indonesian pictograph repository.

But in all seriousness this is not a LARP.
>>136344381
She and I both unironically support white sharia and I have not honor killed her, so the answer is an obvious yes.
>>136344593
WHITE SHARIA
>>136345312
This is haram.
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>>136345009
There are plenty of reasons to hate both women and men. I do. I'm a misanthrope across the board, with rare exceptions, though I'll admit that in some ways I like men a little better. No rational reason for it; if I had to come up with something I'd say they just overthink things less and are less whiny/overly emotional. In part that's because they have more power though: they can afford to be direct. Women tend to be underhanded because they don't have access to direct power as often. You know that's true so quit whining and trying to dodge the fact. It's not like I have a problem with it! And nobody is saying you should either. Men have fucked this world up in the last fifty years--with a lot of help from women--but, they also built the great world that was--again, backed by healthier generations of women. I remember that world. I want it back. I doubt men like you who blame everything on women are capable of it, but I sure as fuck wish you would try.

None of this changes that you dodged my point with a strawman crock and a lame ad hominem. Fail.
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>>136339830
>our economy would collapse if women were banned from the workplace.
The economy would skyrocket, cause all the places would be taken by now unemployed men, who actually do the job rather than gossip, polish nails and browse fagbook
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>>136339830
Do you care about birth rate or do you care about your rights.
Pick one
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(1/2) START
>>136341948
It's best for the kids if two intelligent people with resources and skills have a strong investment and motivation in helping those kids grow into healthy adults.

I'd like to see a situation where people are tested young regarding IQ and so forth and study, but around age 16-18 the state encourages them to marry with disincentives to go to college, a state-sponsored matchmaking service, and tax breaks to the couple's parents.

Women go to college, med school, business school, law school, etc., taking away spots from sometimes more sometimes technically less qualified me. In medicine, you get 40% as many lifetime hours worked as a physician from a female trainee as you do a male. Having our med schools be 50-50 means that a lot of girls are going to meet their doctor husband, and you're basically only training 70 doctors instead of the 100 you're paying for. That's not just 30, but a total of 50 fewer rich doctors that many women would fall all over to marry. It is 30 fewer doctors in that cohort practicing. 30% fewer hours to see and treat patients. A part time dermatologist (wife) married to a cardiologist (husband) can pull in anywhere from half a million to a million a year. One reason why income disparity is increasing. Lawyers marry lawyers too, dentist marry dentists, pharmacists marry pharmacists, MBAs marry MBAs, university administrative staff marry the same, etc. And women with advanced degrees and large salaries don't want men with inferior or no degrees and lower salaries.
(1/2) PAUSE
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>>136346700
(2/2) RESUME
Why do female doctors marry male doctors? The stereotype used to be doctors and nurses, when the roles were strongly gendered. But this happens at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine of South Asia - Aga Khan University Medical College in Karachi, Pakistan. Tons of women go to school there - I've know a few (I am not Paki, I have an older sister, a physician, who burned curry for a few years - not the sister in the precious post). Tons of girls go their and marry and never practice.

IQ tests and genetic tests and breeding and competition in womanly activities as well as a slew of other psychological and wholistic evaluations would be a good way to help make the natural matches more clear. Smart girls who want to be mothers wouldn't be treacherously led down this evil academic system that makes them spinsters. It would lead them to that. Men wouldn't be screwed out of jobs and opportunities that would make women want to marry them, by women who complain they can't find a good enough man and become cat ladies.

Then they have kids in their late teens and early twenties and the government and their families support them. Once the kids are no longer toddlers, the dad resumes education or work in total earnest (part time while the kids are infants). The mother can pursue her dream of being a doctor or a car mechanic in her late thirties. She could get 20+ years of labor out of it.

Plus these horny young bastards would get laid. Keep 'em from going crazy. Babies screaming forces them to be responsible as they can in late adolescence (if they're white). That's what a selective breeding program would look like to me.
(2/2) STOP
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>>136339830

1. Abortion.
-Make abortion illegal after the age of 22, it will only be allowed if the fetus has malformations or any sign of retardation.
-Otherwise, make abortion only accessible to people living in poverty, while making it inaccessible to people of good socio-economic background since they have the means to support more children financially

2. Pension system.
-Change the pension system so that social security retirement no longer exists, but so that retired people will get a fixed percentage of their childrens monthly wage. This will mean that the more children you have, the more pension you will receive. This will create an incentive for families and parents to have more children so that they in turn will have a better life at old age.
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>>136345668
That fails to deal with the damage that isn't financial. You're just going to delay things until that generation of cucks from single mothers are in charge.
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>>136341939
the snake is the jew, the apple is feminism
the moral of that bible story was pretty spot on, it tried to warn us shit like this would happen with women and snakes
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>>136345144
>I'm all for white women to spread their legs like the sluts they are, just as long as they keep the kid afterwards.
And raise it as a single mom? No fucking thanks, that's a lot of the problem right there. And white birthrates are declining due to a whole bunch of societal programming
>don't have kids, goy! they're expensive
>they're a pain
>they will keep you from getting laid
>they will keep you from having fun
>besides the planet is overpopulated anyway goy, you don't want to ruin the planet do you?

blah blah blah Jewish brainwashing

meanwhile the muds multiply like mad and white sperm counts go down and down and down, probably due to all the crap the evil people put in the air and the water and the food

ughhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>136345337
>you need to make another Hitler already Fritz
Somebody sure needs to
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>>136339830
Post your tits whore. Anyone else that responded to this whore is a cuck.
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>>136345558
>The issue is, most western woman are not woman anymore. They are adult-children with vaginas. I can cook, bake, sew, repair plumbing and electrical, and nearly everything to run a home. I have never met a woman who could even make a pot roast from scratch.
Absolutely, sadly true. I do know many exceptions, but most ALL women used to know this shit, and for that matter my Dad was more competent than most guys I know. We need to get involved with education bigtime. Home ec needs to return to our schools, and so much more.
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>>136339830
>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation

Compare Arab countries in the 1970s to now. Its very much reversable at least to a certain degree

>economy would collapse

oh noes wages would increase. Maybe a working man would be able to support a family of four off his wage like Grandpa. How did we ever get an economy before the 1960s?

I dont know how to increase fertility but your arguments are downright retarded. Just ask your grandparents how a world without career women (fancy term for cubicle wagecuckery) but with a replacement rate fertility looks like.
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>>136346769
>1. Abortion.
immigrants have a higher abortion rate than whites/

>2, Pension system.
i like it
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>>136345975
Radical traditionalism you mean? Agreed. The point still stands that calling it white sharia does nobody any favours, except Muslim invaders perhaps.
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>>136339830
Ban women from the workplace.
Ban women from voting.
End entitlement programs, so niggers have to work.
Double the funding for ICE to make space.
Begin arranged marriages culturally
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>>136339830
>our economy would collapse if women were banned from the workplace
Don't be stupid. Wages would start rising again. They stagnated after we doubled to workforce.
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>>136347300
*doubled the
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>>136339830
>>136339830
>legalize cloning, lessen restrictions on test tube babies
-everyone wants a white baby. you know how much a white person goes for on the black market?
>go to a creche type model of child rearing.
-basically outlaw abortions, but incentivise white babies by offering stipends, and develop massive day care/foster care etc.. programs so that everyone with a child MUST give their child to the creche for rearing.
mothers get to visit and stuff but yeah.
No more families, children are now all raised by the state
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>>136339891
Research finds that, as a group, only men pay taxes
Source: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926
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>>136339830
>How do we realistically increase white birth rates without restricting female rights?
You dont, which is why womens rights were a mistake
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>>136346627
>I remember that world
Unless you're breaking old age records you don't.
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>>136339830
>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation
Lol wanna bet?
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>>136339830
Look how many replies this has. Most of you cucks would drop all your beliefs and go full SJW just to get a girlfriend.
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Unfortunately we need the economy to collapse do women can see the economic benefits of a one income household and a nuclear family. Women don't need to be put down by men though. Men compartmentalize so they cannot intellectually handle someone doing something they have labled as belonging to them. If They can get over that then women will not feel the need to fight.
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>>136340089
Ahmed, please.
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Are women really so dumb that they STILL believe the Jewish lie that "wage slavery and spinsterhood is TRUE freedom, strong womynz! Don't marry that devoted leader, provider and father, you can be a mediocre business woman and get pumped and dumped by dozens of men until you are left 40 and catless and full of regret and anger."
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If you can somehow control the migrant influx&procreation issue, the long-term effects of radicalization should take care of it.

1. Liberals, leftists, nu-females etc get tricked into not procreating by climate change propaganda. Decreasing population
2. Conservatives and traditionalists keep having children because they don't care. Increasing population.

Maybe we could consider the jewish diaspora model for a few generations, I don't know.
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>>136339891
You win. FPBP
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>>136346627
my criticisms were accurate, you claimed it was unfair and irrational for men to hate women, because men control most things.

men controlling things does not make it irrational and unfair to hate women. because the reasons we hate women have nothing to do with who is in control. it's all about women being fucking cunts generally, really you are, in so many ways, you know the ways.
>manipulative, shit testing, 80% of divorces initiated by the woman, honour and loyalty often seem exclusively masculine concepts, women generally boring and lacking interests and difficult to deal with and oversensitive and so so so so so so so much drama and despite all that overwhelmingly picky
these are some of the reasons men hate women and it has nothing to do with whether or not men have most of the control

fucking chick logic, do you understand now how hard it is to get through to you? how stupid and silly your thought patterns?

i don't even care who is to blame, my sole position and argument thus far has been that there are many valid reasons to hate women and that you are an example of a few of those reasons, but you'll never change,
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>>136339830
Successful white people don't have the time or money to raise children at the moment. If they think they won't be able to raise a child with adequate parental investment, they won't do it at all, as opposed to lesser races who will just shit out 10 kids and pack them all into a 1 room house.

The best way to get successful white people to have more kids would be a combination of state propaganda, cuts in welfare spending (since we provide the money and it all gets spent on brown people), reduction in the work day, paid leave for moms, reduction in rents and debts that young people typically have to incur, etc.

I think Denmark has one of the best birth rates in the EU and does stuff similar to this.
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>>136339830
>Hides geographic location
>1 post from this tag
>No subtlety at all

Some of the worst bait I've seen.
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>>136342167
good post.
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>>136347701
In a word, yes
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woman will have to give up their rights at some point, the sooner it happens. the better it will be for both genders.

but greed blinds people so that would only happens after a world war or an economical collapse
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>>136347701
I don't even understand how women see that as oppression? The vast majority of people work in jobs they hate but must do because they don't want to be a poorfag. If I was a woman, and I had the choice of being a housewife to an alpha husband , I'd take it. I find cleaning up the house and cooking enjoyable. It only take a few hours and then you've got 5 hour + of free time, where you can learn new skill or make friends with the other neighbourhood tradwives. God I hate being a wage slave. The Jews and the corporate overlords tricked women into thinking working at a soulless company filling papers is somehow fulfilling.
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>>136346551
No, the problem is hypergamy, period.

When the bulk of men are excluded from participation in reproduction, they have no incentive to contribute. They have no skin in the game. Monogamy is a wealth redistribution system that gets men, who otherwise have no incentive, to buy in. It's quite marxist, in a way. It truly is a form of genetic socialism. Funny how today's feminists can't see that.
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>>136339830
Just deport all niggers and shitskins and other non-whites from white countries. This way, women's only choice for breeding would be white men. Racemixing is far bigger issue regarding declining white birth rates than 'female rights'. Also, ban abortion for white people.
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>>136339830

Well, I'll just tell you that you would need to be an experienced man to know how to treat a woman.

Woman will either be good wives or face ostracisation.
That liberty you tasted is nothing to be compared with the cock of a real man. Too many "women" feel liberated for being used as cum dumpers.
They are actually slaves.
They are slaves because they can't even imagine what their bodies and their blood yells at them every single day: That they don't want to be passed along by "guys" and being used like whores. Women want the ubberalpha all and only for themselves. Every woman wants to open her legs to the ubberalpha alone.

Therefore, any woman that has opened her legs to one man once, and feels compelled to open her legs to another one... well... that woman is a loser. why? Because girls only wanna have sex with the ubberalpha. If they have sex with more than one guy, they clearly haven't been with the ubberalpha.
Now, imagine that girl whose self esteem is so low she opens her legs to niggers and shit... imagine how much a loser a woman must know and must feel like to have sex with 100s of men.

Guys forget that. Guys forget that women actually don't want to have sex with men, they just want to have sex with the ubberalpha. To have sex with many men just shows to girls they have been having sex with losers...

Basically, you have probably never been with "a man". And I'm not talking about the ubberalpha, which does not exist.
You probably have never been with a man you "really" liked. Who fucked you properly, And whom you desired would father your children and rule your "community".

^^ Once you taste that your birth rate will want to explode and you will understand what a slave you have been to "liberation".
Unfortunately, you are likely to be a whore and unlikely to ever find a man who is decent, capable, and willing to fuck you for anything other than pass 10 minutes or so - what about cherish you and make raise your children to princes...
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>>136347342
>No more families, children are now all raised by the state
>programs so that everyone with a child MUST give their child to the creche for rearing.

this is what happens when mentally stunted autistic millenial man children naive know it alls take over. this is mark zuckerburg for president
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>>136339830
>How do we realistically increase white birth rates without restricting female rights?
How about you start making babies? It's not that hard of a problem to figure out. If you think there are too few babies, START MAKING THEM
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Artificial wombs... TICK TOCK ROASTIES
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>>136347518
not really, i can see why you'd assume that, but this is a new cross roads in history in which many men are honestly totally fed up and not willing to forget or even at this point forgive

frankly, it's over. great run while it lasted maybe i dunno. see you all on the other side of extinction or whatever
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>>136348226
It really makes no sense to me. I cannot even wrap my mind around the idea of just staying at home and raising kids and making dinner. Honestly that'd be like permanent vacation, I'd run myself stir crazy with boredom. Youd have so much free time to take up any hobbies or interests, it'd be amazing freedom. Yet somehow women were convinced that they were the ones being enslaved and the solution was to become a corporate wage slave... and they werent laughed out of the room... and then they proceeded to believe the obvious lies that they should spend a decade or two throating Chadcock and that itll make them more appealing to the millionaire Ultrachad bachelor when they hit the wall and expect him to want to raise lil Tyrone Jr?

wew lad.
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>>136345588

your kids will be half breeds, and because white women are having fewer and fewer white kids your offspring will probably have to mate with niggers/spics.

Demographers say this is the future for the minority white population of america and eventually europe. So few whites will mean having to mate with whats available.
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>>136348375
I'm saying if OP wants her cake and eat it too.

but you're just a fucking leaf
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>>136346568
I am of Spanish-Greek ancestry, old planter family and next year I'll cut my teeth on salvi politics.
When can our families meet?
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>>136348465
only the elites will control artificial wombs, if we're allowed to use them it will be under their terms, and that will mean gmo babies bred loyal to the state etc
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>>136339830
>female rights
If by that you mean uncheked hypergamy, it'll never happen.

If you change (((anti-men marriage laws))) into something that doesn't put men at risk of being divorce raped financially and never seeing their kids again, it's a good start.
Then you need a way to socially punish weemen that give in to their hypergamic drives. Without that, stability is never achieved.

Ideally, voting rights are given only to heads of families and men who serve their countries.

And ideally, weemen would be removed from the work force in order to cut work force supply by half and so that 1 wage could sustain one family again (thus giving the weemen the chance of being able to take care of their family and raise their children full-time, like before the (((weemen liberation movements)))).

See pic related.
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>>136339891
The thread should have ended here.
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>>136339830
I don't care about female rights. I care only about victory.
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>>136347518
You're assuming men act like women. Men have a capacity to compromise and forgive ,but if you cross a line and disrespect and belittle these men, men will never forget. Modern Women have crossed that line and we are seeing the consequences, in the form of low marriage rates and unwillingness to become wageslaves for roasties . Men are the prideful gender, for better or worse. The average uncucked man would rather be alone than enable women to act like parasites. Men don't want to.be taken advantage off and many are beginning to wakeup to the exploitative nature of modern women.
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>>136339830
You will do what ever we say when we start to slap you again.
>you women will get your feelings hurt and shut your mouth like you always do when minor violence is directed towards you.
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>>136348661
There's a reason female happiness has seen a sharp decline since the 70s. Yet no one wants to acknowledge the white elephant in the room
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>>136349247
women are like dogs and when dogs have soft owners they don't know their place, start trying to take over, and are generally stressed and upset.

you don't need to hit a dog to train it, you just need to dominate it. and modern society doesn't let men wear the pants anymore, and women don't know their place, and women are upset and everythings gone to shit.

men are the dominant gender, and women have forgotten that in some ridiculous quest for equality despite inferiority
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>>136339830
>2016+1
>I'm a gril btw
>guaranteed replies
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>>136349213
not at all, many women crave the attention of violence and will cause drama to get it. just like dogs. it's not wise to hit a dog when training it. but then again, sometimes you do have to snap a dog on the nose it can't be avoided. so perhaps you're right, women have earned a few firm but not overly harsh slaps
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>>136348888
I compiled that - I have to say, the text color looked a lot more distinct on my other monitor. Now that I am on a different computer, I notice that its legibility fades quite a bit in places. Whoops...

Anyway, glad to see that you are not only making use of it, but are also making use of prodigious Quads.
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>>136349393
They're not inferior, but they do fulfill different roles to men. Women need to start valuing their natural roles or else they'll continue to be miserable and we will continue to have demographic problems.
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>>136349393
In my experience women will naturally embrace the submissive role and become more feminine when you become more masculine and start treating her less like an equal and more like a child. Dont take her irrational outbursts seriously, dont capitulate to her emotional manipulation, and she will fall in line and actually LIKE it... it lets her embrace her biology and let herself go and not be forced to uphold an image of mediocre masculinity.
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>>136349822
Thing is that if they don't eventually men will start developing the artificial womb, sexbots and bots to help raise children. And women will be replaced like we replaced so many other things.
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>>136349822
they fulfill supportive roles, or at least should rather. using the term inferior hurts delicate fee fees so let's say supportive roles. with men taking the dominant roles.
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>>136339830
>we've tasted liberation
Exactly, for less than a century. The modern woman proceeded to get intoxicated with the effect; within 50 years of the right to vote traditional families were destroyed.
>our economy would collapse
Continuous economic growth is another facet of this cube we're in. It is just another form of slavery, based on an ever increasing population.

You're all free, now get to work generating tax/interest/insurance shekels while enjoying bread & circus.
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>>136349899
exactly. but what a pain in the ass having to train women
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>>136350032
>Continuous economic growth is another facet of this cube we're in. It is just another form of slavery, based on an ever increasing population.
Thing is that the way the system is set up we need that growth.

>humans want more - it's an instinct
>if the pie is growing we can get more without having to take it from other people
>if the pie is not growing we have to take it, i.e. violence in various forms...
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You can't do it. When the artificial placenta ends up happening for real the female menace is over as soon as the first high quality sexbot appears

You had the technology to finally end the male species through creating spermatozoids from female cells but you didn't do it in time, now you just declared your doom.

Begone accursed succubus!
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>>136339830
Well, here's a eau to think about it;
How about you list off whay it would take to get you to have 5+ kids, then we'll start analysing which of those requirements are practical as a government policy
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>>136339830
>after we've tasted liberation
what did she mean by this?
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>>136350215
It would be interesting to see where the country would be if we had maintained the 1950's "2.5 kids" ideal across all economic groups. Hell, if the number of children that the wealthy and the poor were having on average were inverted, society would make a lot more sense - but how things appear to be now seems to be the exact worst way to maintain aggregate quality of life.
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>>136350068
Yeah I feel sorry for this generation of men... even high value guys with good jobs are getting divorce-raped or forced to wife a post-wall roastie drunk on feminism who is constantly shitting on him and henpecking, never cooking a meal and maybe giving him one sad handjob per year on his birthday with a disaffected frown while looking at her phone. Its sad for everyone really, the women are only making themselves unhappy too, and the kids of this generation are being turned into the goodest of goys ready to pay for 70 years of therapy

I was lucky enough to marry a virgin at age 20 but I was super beta at first and almost lost her, luckily I learned the truth and channelled my inner Chad before it was too late, to great effect. No better marriage counselling than the redpill desu senpai
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>>136350068
To be fair, both men and women have forgotten their roles. Men are a shadow of what they used. Both men and women have start reconnecting with their feminine and masculine side.
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>>136350215
>Thing is that the way the system is set up we need that growth.
The (((system))) is modern life, constantly advertised and promoted through every form of media. Much of it is needless distraction convenience, entertainment and trivia.
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>>136339830
>without restricting female rights?
make marriage better
- make divorce penalties fair to both genders
- incentivise monogamy
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>>136339830
Put down the bong, also tits
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>>136339830
>How I can have the cake and eat it too?

Yeah, no need for TITS or GTFO.
This is clearly a woman.
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>How do we realistically increase white birth rates without restricting female rights?

How do we dance in the rain without getting wet?
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>>136350408
Tyreeze's AIDS coated cock
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>>136350410
>but how things appear to be now seems to be the exact worst way to maintain aggregate quality of life.
Almost as it has been engineered at society level.
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>>136339960
Fuck off, all ancap groups on the internet are like 95% male
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>>136350408
Being a subpar wagecuck is now liberating
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>>136350408
Freedom to vote, work and live independently - without support of parents or husband. The state has supplanted the man's traditional role.
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>>136342167
Great post. Neither can live if the other dies.
Feminism postulates that men are women's enemies. It sets men against women. This is why women's suffrage is haram. It assumes women need the vote because they are at odds with men.

>>136348857
Nuestra cuñada es Hispana, de una familia muy antigua de plantadores. Su familia recibió una concesión de la tierra en Nueva España del Rey de España, en el siglo XVI (La tierra está actualmente en los Estados Unidos).

Estamos Greco-Católicos, entonces nuestra parroquia se ofrece la Divina Liturgia de San Juan Crisostomo, Arzobispo de Constantinopla. Usamos otras tradiciones de los cristianos orientales. Me gusta mucho la canta bizantina tradicional, como ese: https://youtu.be/BrkR9W4DX5E

Mi amigo lo mejor del mundo, el está estudiando ser un sacerdo por la Arquidiócesis Ortodoxa Griega de América.

He incluido dirección de correo. Por favor, mandáme un email si usted viaje a los Estados Unidos.
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>>136339830
>white Sharia
so...law?
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>>136339830
>Women aren't going to go back to the kitchen and become trad wives after we've tasted liberation

fake internet girl detected, having no husband or kids and being a wageslave is not """"liberation""" and "going back to the kitchen" is what the vast majority of women wish they could do but they just can't do it financially, if the economic incentives weren't fucked you wouldn't have to force women to do anything because being a homemaker is what the vast majority of women want to do naturally (inb4 triggered incels who think all women are in on a feminist conspiracy in their dna, give any little girl a toy car or a toy doll to play with and it'll be the doll 9 times out of 10)
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>>136351039
It was laws that liberated women. Right to vote, then social security, then welfare and affirmative action. We don't need more/different (ie religious) law - we need less for nature to take it's course.
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>>136341300
If you aren't LARPing, could you post some proof?
Also, what state ate you from?
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>>136339830
Make abortion legal and free for POC.
Press whites to get married and have children as soon as they graduate college.
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>>136348857
Perdona me. Olvidé:
>[twice 4chan][email protected].
Envia usted un mensaje al dirección, y voy a verlo.
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The only way we can repair things is if men stop capitulating to women. All this feminism and shit is just societal shit testing, which we keep failing. Blaming women is retarded - women do what men allow them to do, nothing more. They are well aware of the fact that we could enslave their entire gender before lunch tomorrow. They know they exist by our grace - and they are hardwired to push those boundaries. Nothing dries up their pussy faster than giving her what she says she wants. You leave her no choice but to replace you. This is why we exist today - because women are wired to find Chad, and you should be grateful you are the offspring of a thousand Chads. Don't be mad at your kids when you let them do whatever they want and then act shocked when they misbehave.
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>>136339830
Obvious bait but I'll reply anyway, birth rates are a meme, just cease immigration and make retirement a private issue (saving and having your children care for you) rather than burdening the people and the problem is solved

Populations fluctuate a lot throughout history, not just increase forever, it's not a problem as long as a nation remains homogeneous
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>>136340075
WHAT?
You cuck, everything about the attraction mechanisms in grills is to filter for dominance. Men need to man up and aproach and escalate and shit like that, as well as culling all traitors and change the (((anti-men marriage laws))) and make it socially acceptable to shame the sluttery.

We also need to bring back rites of passage.
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>>136340191
But if you marry them you still gonna get divorce raped.
One thing is getting the lay and laying the pipe good, another is managing a relationship.
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>>136348857
>>136351775
Should be:
>[twice 4chan's webaddress].pol @ google's mail service
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>>136351380
The only state that honors Royal Land Grants from the Crown of Spain.
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>>136339830
One word:
>Propaganda
Make white people think they want to reproduce more of their own volition, but promoting it, and better yet, making the government have tax reductions for married people, would give a pretty good incentive for whites to reproduce
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>>136347364
How the everloving fuck is this not a big deal?

This is maddening, they're literal fucking parasites
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>>136341939
Best post in the thread so far
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>>136351368
shariah means law
not necessarily Islamic law
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>>136339830
We restrict the other races breeding so fast, the will soon want to leave when you tell them they can only have 2 kids.
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>>136352537
You didnt know this?

White men are the ONLY people who actually pay more taxes than they take away. Taxes are literally a distribution of wealth from white males to minorities and women. Thats it. You are giving a nigger $800,000 in taxes in your life, grats. Still want to fight for the beloved constitution?
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>>136339830
you can start by getting off 4chan
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>>136339830
You don't.

Long enough timeline, you're going back to the kitchen either way. It's up to you to decide who you'd prefer to cook for.

When you're outbred 10:1 by fundamentalists, the future is not bright for your ideals.
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>>136339830
If we're discussing realistic measures for a moment: fix the housing problem for monogamous white couples.

This is 100% guaranteed to raise the birth rates and is easy to implement without wide-scale social engineering.

Currently couples delay childbirth because they can't realistically own their own home until their late 30's. This needs to be fixed, if women know that they have guaranteed security they'll start childbirth in their early 20's.
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>>136352777
chalked
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birth rates should stay low. the world can't support 10 billion people for long. other races need to slow the fuck down. whites and japanese are doing the right thing.
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It is too late, I already watched Dune so there is no going back. White Sharia is an inevitability. After we clean up our own race and cleanse our lands of the Jewish sickness, we can eradicate all of those Sunni and Shia infidels and the rest of the heretics in the Middle East.

>m-muh Christian heritage

Our heritage was pagan before it was Christian, quit being selective about ancestor appeasement. Bend like the reed or snap bitch nigga.
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>>136341300
>trad catholic
>iq around 130-145

Thats a larp thats almost as bad as a computer hacker from the future who happens to be a practicing muslim whos name is Isis.
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>>136340497
No living human is not a slave in a way. If you have to work, you're a wage slave. If you have to care for a family and raise the kids you're a slave to your family. If you're born rich and never have to do shit to make sure you'll live in abundance you're a slave to the human condition and will probably become a junkie (see the statistics for children of rich ppl being junkies). Choose you poison sweetie. Life ain't fucking flowers and rabbit cuddles, its a constant state of warfare.
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>>136340751
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj7VgBnQNUc
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>>136339830

Tits or gtfo. Also, sage.
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>white sharia

What the fuck does that even mean?
Anyone who actually says that is fucking retarded.

The way to increase birth rates is literally through propaganda. In Germany during the 3rd Reich, propaganda ads would show blonde haired, blue eyed children and their families. Germany's birth rate rose considerably, particularly blond children.

Why do you think there's so much race mixing propaganda being shown?
Because it's very effective.
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>>136340799
Its a good discussion you eurocuck piece of shit.
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>>136340844
Lol, you didn't hold back, you're a little angry but I get what you're saying.

Read this, you'll like it:
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/the-theory-2/
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/
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All we need to do is get government to incentivize good births and disincentivize bad ones, unlike today
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>>136353355
>Our heritage was pagan before it was Christian
You are an American. Unless you are a native, you shouldn't speak such nonsense.
Take a look at traditional European Christianity. Compare it to modern American "Christianity". There is a reason you were driven off our continent.
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>>136353528
You're questioning that and not my father's 175? Odd way to go.
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>>136353943
>What the fuck does that even mean?

Appropriating Islam and injecting our own Western morality and tradition into it (like we did with Christianity), and then overshadowing the race that forced the religion onto us to such a degree that people forget that Islam wasn't even originally a European religion in the first place (like we did with Christianity)

Time passes and things change. Blood is what matters, everything else is cosmetic and transitory.

>I'll miss the sea, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.
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>>136354473
>and then overshadowing the race that forced the religion onto us
you can never overshadow middle easterners
ever
read some history
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>>136354804
Can I Mossad the Assad of Damas?
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>>136354849
not even after 7 years of war
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>>136354948
ALLAH SOURIYA BASHAR O BAS!
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>>136354214
And what came before traditional European Christianity? What is my shitty American McDonald's version of Christianity derived from? Are you saying that the particular religion itself is unimportant, and that the people practicing the religion is what matters? Huh.

Even before European paganism, our oldest ancestors were JUST cognitive enough to worship the sun in a very general and vague way, so if we're worried about heritage, then isn't Odinist paganism an affront to those older ancestors?

Religion is cosmetic. Europe will shape whatever is thrust upon it into whatever it needs to be, just like Arabs will destroy any ideology that they touch. The people matter more than anything else.

>>136354804
>you can never overshadow middle easterners

t. inbred horse nomad
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>>136355135
>>you can never overshadow middle easterners
>t. inbred horse nomad
Oh boy are you gonna be in for some fun at the Eschaton.
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>>136354804
>you can never overshadow middle easterners

Israel overshadow the lot of you.
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>>136355280
>Israel overshadow the lot of you.
not even close to it
just 70 years and their culture is pretty much middle eastern
give them 50 more and they'll be speaking arabic
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>>136355135
>What is my shitty American McDonald's version of Christianity derived from?
Talmud, Kabbalah and your monkey genes.
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>>136355274
>Eschaton
This dumb Puerto Rican looks like he'd let me into Heaven in exchange for a ninety-nine cent Big Pun ringtone. I'm not worried about it.

>>136355416
You are ignoring the point. I agree that contemporary American Christianity is garbage. You are talking about traditional European Christianity, but how influential is traditional Christianity in Europe today compared to the modern/directionless/capitulatory Christianity? I am criticizing a thing, and you are defending the thing that it derived from that I never criticized. I never said that Christianity wasn't ever good for Europe, I'm only saying that is has no utility today and that better avenues exist. I never criticized traditional European Christianity, so why are you defending it?
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