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Why was the cia so obsessed with LSD?

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Why was the cia so obsessed with LSD?
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>>136320322
believed in psychic powers
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if youve ever done it, you will know. i did it once and felt amazing for the next six months. it teaches you to notice and appreciate details that you'd otherwise miss because you're thinking about your mortgage and job or whatever it is

i dont even want to hear it from you skinny and sloppy fat fucking nerd slobs oooooh it's degenerate to do drugs. if you haven't done acid, you can't comment. it's the best thing ever, and i mean it.
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>>136320847

why do people like this never realize what a cliche they are
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>>136321097
people like what? have you ever dropped L? nothing cheesy about being blasted by level 10000 reality.
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>>136320322

they probably thought (in the 60's) that you could use it for mind control
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>>136320322
The CIA during the cold war was into all kinds of spooky shit

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
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Makes you open to large, bizarre ideas. It didn't work very well in mk ultra tests though, because you are still cognitive enough to understand someone is telling you to do things and the concept of questioning authority doesn't just disappear
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>>136321097
Calling something "cliche" is not an argument
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>>136321208
I've only done tabs a couple times. Didn't really affect me that much, light seemed brighter but that was about it. What's the good shit?
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>>136320847
lol this fucking looser has to take drugs to have a good time
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>>136321097
check out vaults of errowid

>>136320322
They used it and shock therapy to wipe people's memories and "attempt" reprogramming. They said they weren't successful reprogramming but they were definitely successful wiping people's memories.
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>>136321097
I agree. I did it a few times when I was younger. Changed my life. But I don't like when people make it their identity or proselytize about it. For some people, it's great, leave it at that.
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>>136321097
because im not, faggot. you have in your head this very wrong idea about drugs probably because you're a loser who sees every chick he wants to fuck in high school get taken by a real men who smoke weed or something. and then you attach that mentality to anyone who does any drug. i-it's d-degenerate. blow me. i KNEW i would catch shit from some fucking dork on this.
you can't comment if you haven't done it. it remains the best thing i've ever done in my life and i've done a lot of great stuff in my life.
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>>136320322
it gets you really fucking high at really low doses, it could be used for all sorts of things. Also it was made by a chemist who was basically just cobbling shit together to see what would happen. The wanted him to keep going to see if he could come up with a truth serum or a drug that makes you hate communism or anything that the soviets could have already discovered or would otherwise be useful in the Cold War.
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>>136321423
Sounds like you did one of em research chemicals. What you described is exactly my experience: totally visual.
Just be careful with that shit, you could overdose.

Actual LSD though, it's like turning your mind into a Klein bottle that's constantly changing its color and shape.
I have smelled the love a mother has for her child.
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>>136320322
Drug is to have fun, they were probably trying to use it for something else.
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>>136320322
It was suppose to enslave us but it woke us up.
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>>136320322
Because it opens your third eye.
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>>136320322
The point of LSD is that you can have two outcomes.

First: You'll get an open mind, not like "Im 19 and soooo open.". Nope, you sit there and your brain is going on turbo mode like a mixer. I know some people who really changed after using the drug once. In a positive way.

Second: Your fears overwhelm you completely and messing up your mind.
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>>136320322
LSD is trash, smoke DMT like an adult.
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>>136320322
It gave them a reason to extract the pineal gland from the children that grew too old for the presidential pedo parties.
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>>136321639
Digging the hole deeper. Just stfu, you overbearing faggot.
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>>136321836
When you ``woke up'', you were on the wrong path and didn't notice.
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>>136321250
>the concept of questioning authority doesn't just disappear

in fact, it's amplified. that's why it's illegal
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CIA niggers
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>>136321860

i think it's better to have a strong mind than an open mind
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>>136321639
OIF4 war vet here (civvie now). Same. I only needed it once. My shit is squared away forever now. I may as well have talked to god.
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it isn't. LARPing drug addicted faggots trying desperately to justify their delusional worldviews just like to use it as a talking point

>brain damage lmao
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>>136321954
consider suicide
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>>136320847
QFT.
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>>136321836
this desu. i used to browse /pol/ as a joke and genuinely saw it as satire. that is, until i browsed /pol/ on acid. shit freaked me out but turned me full 1488 overnight (literally)
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>>136321860
Just have a benzo on hand if you start freaking out.
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i've done acid hundreds of times.
always a sobering experience.
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>>136322361
>benzo

faggot, just have copious amounts of weed on standby
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>>136322222
what a waste of digits
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>>136321493
Acid is a deep introspective experience on the nature of your own mind, society, and culturally laid down patterns of behavior. People who think people only take LSD for a "good time" are mistaken because it can be challenging. The other side of the coin is completely transcending moments of awe and wonder, meme man.
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There is an interest in controlling peoples minds. This is funded by the DoD in seppo central.
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Do you think they really believed in the potential within the experiments or do you think it was more for sadistic entertainment? Ever watch a person with a head full of acid try to figure out anything? It's pretty funny.
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>>136320322
They are insane.
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>>136321493
t. never done LSD
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>>136320847
This.

After I tried acid, my life changed, It's hard to describe, but LSD changes you.
Time feels different, you feel differently about things, etc.

It is cliche, but it really is an experience you can't accurately comment on unless you've tried it.
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>>136320322
It''s a posion to the weak.
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>>136322567
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>>136322652
>posion
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>>136320322
they thought LSD could be a tool to control people, but it's only useful as a tool to drive to destroy a target's sanity.
Opioids are a much better tool to control people, hence its increasing use.
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>>136322365
>you will ever be as pathetic as an unknown anon lying about how much acid he's done on the politics board of 4chan who in any other case reply would have been forgotten about and never acknowledged just like his meek existence

Feels Good Man
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>>136322222
Kek has spoken and apparently he's an asshole
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>>136322694
Fuck off Australia.
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>literally every thread about psychedelics on 4chins
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>25mg
>mg
>mother fucking MILLIGRAMS of the stuff

Jesus God. I can't image how gone the poor saps who took those doses.
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>>136322170
Elaborate?
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>>136322798
Took that pixelfag long enough to say nothing
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>>136322170
Please explain.
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>>136322464
>weed
>while on LSD

One of the worst ideas in the history of mankind.
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lsd observation:
making a pathological habit of browsing /pol/ is a very blue pilled experience.
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>>136322798
cia nigger pls go
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>>136322882
ego death is ego death

once you hit an ego death level dose it doesn't matter how much "harder" you trip or how much more you take

its doing acid OVER AND OVER AND OVER that ruins people
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>>136320847
>my drug-induced hallucinations were totally meaningful
red eyes realize real lies am i right xD
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>>136320322
they hoped it could be used in their favor but it turned out to just be a drug
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>>136323027
high and tripping as we speak my friend. i feel fucking amazing
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>>136323038
mlpol was an inside job
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>>136321760
Youre an idiot he was trying to make a migraine cure and know ergot does this hence why he used ergot in its manufacture, his name was albert hoffmab and he wasnt a cia chemist he worked for sandoz and wasnt using it for malicipus purposes. He only knew it made you trip by accident
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>>136323112
Uh huh. How much LSD are you on.
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>>136323080
this is what every single person who is against LSD who hasnt tried it says, try it first fuckwad.
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>>136323202
250 ug tab, nothing crazy
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>>136320322
My theory is that LSD can aid someone in realizing the 4th dimension or how to navigate/interpret the 4th dimension.
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>>136320322
It significantly changes your patterns of thought for the duration of its effect, giving you a different perspective of yourself and your perceived reality. This can cause people to break out of the patterns of behavior that they've built around themselves their whole lives. The CIA was interested in the potential to reshape those behaviorisms as they saw fit, i.e. "mind control" through huge doses of lsd and various types of abuse throughout the trip
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>>136323439
And how much weed?
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>>136323465
>4th dimension
is time.
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>>136323172
I don't buy that LSD was an accident. I think Hoffman had a really powerful interest in the chemistry of psychedelics and used that migraine/eyesight/whatever thing as an excuse for funding.

Hell the man was also the first to extract psilocybin. He was all about it, I strongly doubt it was simply a beautiful accident.
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>>136323439
Yeah cause taking weed while having a pnic attack on lsd is so much better than taking a benzo an anxiolytic chemical. Braindead retard
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I'm interested in trying this shit again, what's the best way to ingest? What dosage should I take to see new colors and dimensions and all that jazz?
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>>136323529
took like 2 bong rips, you wanna match?
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>>136323113
>>136322686
>>136322488
Hey this is quality stuff here. Gib yous.
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>>136323341
keep deluding yourself junkie
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>>136320322
mind control over the masses

MUHAHAHAH
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>>136323609
>pills

keep sucking that jew pharma dick, goy
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>>136323638
I just had a bad experience once.

700ug and 3 waterfalls. Do not recommend.
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>>136323469
This. Out of the 169 experiments conducted under the mkultra program around 50 of them involved LSD
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>>136323060
>its doing acid OVER AND OVER AND OVER that ruins people
Was there anyone ever ruined by LSD?
Except maybe the Monarch victims but LSD could have even protected them against the worst of the nightmare spook experiment scenarios? In fact the general theme was to 'compartmentalize' the victims with trauma while stoned to the limit and then certain keys used during the 'programming' phase could supposedly trigger the alter ego at will.
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>>136320322

IT ruined the culture and brought in all this free love shit, ruinining marriage. People act like this was just blowback and they wanted it for mind control, but it actually had the intended effect. It poisoned America's culture and this is coming from someone who likes psychedelics
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>>136322154
You can have both
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>>136323615
Get it off the dark net, test it (seriously, fucking test that shit to know you're getting the real deal) and take 200-300 ug.
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>>136322464
Weed could intensify a trip and even prolong it. I remember basically peaking a second time for another two hours after tripping for 6 hours because I smoked a bowl. If you're having some sort of panic/anxiety issue, a benzo will eliminate it almost immediately.
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>>136323723
>700ug

jesus christ. i have respect for someone who tries that much. mind if i ask what happened?
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>>136323881
Thanks friendo, wish me luck in getting some good stuff this time.
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>>136320322
Because they were doing it constantly.
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>>136320322
Because psychedelics are essential to the human experience and they were making sure the genie stays in the bottle
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people that have experience with psychedelics are generally more well-rounded and mentally healthier than people that have not.

this isn't an opinion anymore.
it's now a proven scientific fact.
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>>136323807
Syd Barrett, perfect textbook of legit mental illness being triggered by LSD.
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>>136320697
Wtf, no one responded to this? They were trying to control and enhance anomalous cognition i.e. psychic abilities. The shit is real and there are no countermeasures that work against it.

>they can't stop us

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/jan/31/veterans-nsas-psychic-wars/
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>>136320322
They want it all to themselves.
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>>136323703
Lsd was a pharmaceutical at one point.
Also what is someone with an anxiety disorder supposed to do if they want to abort a trip?
>i only take natural drugs maaaaan like lsd!
Also are you implying lsd isnt made by the cia? Youve no idea how hard it is to get the precursors
T. Chemist
>>136323558
Um psychs are 5ht agonists, headaches are cause by antagonisising the 5ht receptors. That is why he was looking into psychedelics
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>>136320322
I've done acid and seen multiple people do it.
it changes people and makes you worst or better depending on your fears and insecurities, you will see things "differently" like most pro-acid faggots might say, but it will either bring out the best or worst in you.
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>>136320847
This guy really is a lame faggy cliche but lsd really was amazing. My religious faith was failing due to how terribly black pilled our degenerate world was making me. Had a nice 5 hour conversation with god
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>>136323807
I have personal acquaintances who becomes obsessed with doing LSD. I watched their cognition decline over the course of months of bi-weekly use.

Just like any powerful thing in this world it can send you to the gutter if you are unable control yourself.

>>136324004
as in my example above syd used a fuckload of it
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>>136323553
You're not considering the possibility of a fourth physical dimension. You should look into theoretical physics.
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>>136323080
>acid
>red eyes

Mate.
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>>136324004
Well he reached for the secret too soon
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>>136323807
>Was there anyone ever ruined by LSD?
he was a bit off his rocker to begin with, and lsd was by no means the only thing he took, but it really did not help. the kind of stand-there-drooling-playing-the-same-note-over-and-over behavior that got him replaced is a lot closer to the behavior of someone who took too much acid as opposed to too much speed or horse.
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>>136323807
I got psychosis after tripping twice a week for about 3 months. I also have hppd permanently. I see colours in my vision all the time and sparkles
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>>136321493
Your girlfriend will cheat on you with a man who has had his mind unlocked by LSD.
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>>136323703
You should only be tripping on psychs a few times a year max, you're not going to get hooked on a fucking benzo if you pop one to avoid your mind collapsing. I've personally never had the need, but you can't argue that it's not one of the best exit buttons for a bad trip.
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>>136324034
Can confirm. Level 4 Esper here, 1 more and I get pyrokinesis.
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>>136320322

Because they haven't grown decent mushrooms.

Also:

>CIA's logo is literally an eagle going through a meat grinder
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>>136324004
yes, but he took way too much, which the leaf said was a problem. not a counter example, try again
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>>136324173
Shit I tripped once a week for around 2 years, I guess I lucked out, but is hppd any fun?
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>>136322796
>Fuck off Australia
>burger
>doesn't notice its a kiwi flag
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>>136323881
Or just get its brother LSZ which is far better legally.
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>>136320847
for me it made absolutely every thought that came to mind completely 100% believable and true on a deep and cosmic scale.

I literally thought Nicholas cage was about to show up on a motorcycle and take me on adventures thru time. Aliens were running me as a simulation of a bygone defunct species at the end of time. The very steps I walked were veins in the breathing lungs of the apartment complex.
I wouldn't want to EVER experience that again. I don't want to believe ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING my brain can come up with. its exhausting. I know I wouldn't have listened, but I wish I could convince me at the time its just not worth it.
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>>136324249

>doesn't realize one of the ways to trigger kiwis is to mislabel them

It's like calling cubans mexican.
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>>136323018
>>136322886
I used to get pretty fucking triggered and fucked up by certain things (standing liquids, crowded places, restaurants). It was a real issue. This is all after I got out of the Army and shit, I wasn't discharged medically, I served my time 100%.
Well, one day a friend of my wife and I offered us some LSD. I don't really know why, but I said fuck it and we got some drops, put them on sugar cubes, chewed em up, and both sat on our bed naked as jay birds.
I can tell you about the experience, although it makes me sound insane. I will tell you that before and ever since I was 18 I was told by doctors after a test so that I could sell my sperm that I was inert. My wife and I up until that point had never used protection for 5 years of newlywed fucking multiple times a day at least. One year later almost exactly I started shooting FMJ instead of blanks. I don't know what did it, but my metal state changed for the better as well. I feel like my body healed itself.
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>>136320322
Ahhhhh It so nice to visit the other dimension.
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>>136323080
>LSD
>red eyes

have you tried anything but alcohol you fucking idiot?
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>>136323112
You can't read if you are properly tripping. Hell, I've watched Dummies endlessly refresh and get get caught on a single home page before.


If there is a God he wants you to do what you are doing right now. Try to figure out what he wants
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>>136324249
>implying NZ isn't just discount Australia
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>>136324191
i guess thats a legitimate argument, but my brother's life totally collapsed bc of a xanax addiction. i just avoid them as a general rule
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PAPA WANTS COCAINE
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>>136324173
>I see colors in my vision all the time

You don't say...? Sounds like you have cancer.
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>>136324173
That's called visual snow you retard
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>>136324416

Chewing coca leaves is much better, try it sometime.
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>>136324245
Hppd is fucking horrible i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. Perma-tripping basically, does that sound fun?
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>>136320847
Acid feels like poison compared to psilocybin. Ever hear a person on acid articulate their enhanced perception? They sound retarded and confused. It fucks your perception up, does not enhance.
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>>136324344
>god
Almost all religions are based on psychedelic experience.
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>>136324304
Thats psychosis mate. Delusions of granduer but good ones
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>>136324344
not every body does drugs you fucking degenerate
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>>136324304
>I literally thought Nicholas cage was about to show up on a motorcycle and take me on adventures thru time.
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take the blue pill:

live your whole life without having a psychedelic experience.
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>>136324453
>perma tripping
Because now you get free drugs forever
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>>136324453
Do you trip mentally or just physically cause that would be bad
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>>136324344
This is true. After a certain threshold, actually you can't even see properly, because the hallucinations are blocking your vision. I slammed 20 hits of LSD in my youth and I had a hard time walking, because I thought the floor was outer space.
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>>136324344
kek trust me its hard af reading these tiny little letters, but i can manage
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>>136324453

>does that sound fun?

Yes.
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It cured my depression.
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>>136321836
THIS is the most accurate gif of what hallucinations are like on LSD
Everything still has its form it's just also changing

This still doesn't even compare to the utter buttfuckery of your mind as it tries to cobble together what it sees as random patterns emerge
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>>136320322
>Why was the cia so obsessed with LSD?
Because it initially was supposed to be the greatest "conditioning" tool ever invented, instead, and unfortunately for them, it is one of the greatest de-conditioning tools ever invented.
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>>136323913
Basically here's what happened.
I put on a bunch of zeppelin and Bowie using groove shark before hand. I had surround sound on and I accidentally used live songs.
That was the best come up ever.

Only one problem. So my dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer (no big deal, early stage 1) at the time (I didn't know because I was at school and he wanted to tell me in person), but my dad made a huge event to raise money and awareness.
He was in a commercial, so one of my friends saw it.

I got a text during the peak
>sorry your dad has cancer
With zero context.

Smoked 3 waterfalls and we just sitting there on the couch. I was used to visuals; however, when I stood up the room completely warped.
It was as if the room became 50 feet fall and 4 inches wide. Music became full on distorted and characters from animations were shuffling around.

It was as if you hit expand on a YouTube video, but instead of the full screen it's your entire plain of view.
For a one hour window I couldn't read or write, I forgot my own name, and I tasted colors. And the visuals would just not fucking turn off. Sometimes when you take a decent amount, you can kinda shake them to relax by looking at different things and no focusing. These simply would not go away.

For some reason I had this notion that drinking water and purging it would help this. I ended up drinking 3 gallons of water and I filled up a trash can half way with water vomit. The patterned logo of the bag for some reason resembled condoms to me, so I thought for a moment I was fucked up because I thought muled coke and forgot.

3 hours later from the weed (full time of everything was about 7) it all finally stopped and everything was just glitchy looking. When to bed and woke up next to scores of empty water bottles.

Never again. I did get back on the horse a bit with LSD. But that's been years ago. I haven't done it in a while.
I can't smoke week anymore. It triggers PTSD for me.
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>>136324316
That's badass man I'm glad it worked out for you.
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>>136322361
Not too much though or else you start forgetting the trip, and it sucks. Like "man why did i even trip in the first place if I forgot everything" but yeah it's good for calming you down.
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>>136322601
>It's hard to describe acid unless you do acid
>I can't describe it because I did acid

Acid literally turns you retarded. This is proof enough.
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>>136322222
Why do leafs get all the digits
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>>136324540
he has visual trails and glare permanently.
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>>136323807
I've noticed people pick up odd habits. One guy started poking anything that resembles a button and making an oink sound like a cartoon pig. He did it very casually, as if it wasn't important or meaningful, it's just what you do when you see a button... Push it and oink.
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>>136324453
I have hoped and it's not bad. Ceiling looks like it's crawling/breathing and words kinda float around on screen. Can see a kinda static/noise digital film on things if I look for it, especially on surface of water.
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After using LSD once, and being around people who have used it, as well as listening to hours of terence mckenna and others lecturing about it, I've come to the conclusion that the CIA probably found out something sinister about it. I think it's an extremely powerful drug for opening people to suggestibility and social programming. The methods to do so is what I think the CIA knows but will not disclose.

I think there is a distinct possibility a lot of our current world leaders have been experimented on with this drug, and currently make terrible decisions based on what they were programmed to do. Guys like John Mccain and his weird thirst to cause disorder and chaos in the middle east. There's no way a rational man could come to his conclusions. I believe after he was rescued from being a POW, the CIA or some other united states organization did experiments on him. I think many orthodox christians in the united states government especially have come to "witness god" and believe that some agent operating on them was divine in nature. Thus they "follow God's will" through what they were told during their "visions."

I also think Terence was onto something by suggesting that Psilocybin containing mushrooms are a form of extraterrestrial communication. Akin to a Von Neumann probe. I haven't thought too much about it though.
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>>136324649
>I got a text during the peak
>>sorry your dad has cancer
>With zero context.

how do you even recover from this lmao
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>>136323558
Lysergamides are used all the time for cluster headaches and they're supposedly used in veterinary medicine for inducing contractions and stuff as well
Methysergide was produced by Sandoz for cluster headaches
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methysergide
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>>136324173
>tripping twice a week for 3 months
this is bullshit
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>>136324427
No like brightened colours and streaks of colour
>>136324431
No it isnt its not visual snow its twinkling sparks that fizzle and pop like a firecracker or firework look up hallucinogen persisting perception disorder
>>136324532
>>136324598
>>136324540
Its not fun its a bit mental and physical, ive been told by a pschologist thats it turned into some type of trauma relating to a bad trip i had on 1500ug. When i get hppd really bad i get flashbacks of that bad trip and slip into the mindstate
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>>136320322
Basically mind control.
LSD loosened up boomer kids. This changed them into what we know today. The difference between greatest and boomers is stark. And you can see that hedonism was planted by the CIA to produce this result - the drugs, the culture, the memes (tune out, drop out) was an attempt to create a controllable population.

As I understand it turned out not as effective. You can destroy culture, but making it into something useful is hard.
And so it is today, heroin is deployed to kill off the remainders of white working class, like LSD was deployed to kill a stoic white society. That's the best drugs can do, destroy.
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>>136322601
>>136320847
Seconding this

You realize how much you worry about things that don't matter; and that you're only temporary so you may as well drop the negative outlook and enjoy the little things. You realize that people matter too. LSD made me feel like I woke up after a life time of being asleep in a bad dream.
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>>136323060
There is absolutely nothing positive about ego death. It creates hippies who feel like they are one with everyone else and therefore have way too much empathy.
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>>136322488

They use LookingGlass here 24/7, don't they?
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>>136324135

>He cried for the moon.


Hell ya anon. Good Stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UXircX3VdM
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>>136324810
>Terence Mckenna
Literally a communist who advocated white genocide because the mushroom told him to.

Psilocybin is cool though, but far more serious than LSD which is just "fun." Psilocybin is when you really want to trip and not waste your time with hallucinations.
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>>136324316
I've never tried it but I've heard its like unlocking your mind. And well, the mind controls the body in ways medicine can't fully explain. You don't sound insane anon. I've never had the guts to try it but if it can change your life for the better, maybe I should give it a go. I dunno.
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>>136324873
Man bad trips are the best but I guess Trippin permanently seems like a chore I've done it for weeks but it gets really hectic after a while, do you still have problems with objective reality it will probably be too personal but what did you experience in your bad trip?
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>>136324112
You fucking dummy....

There are discreet dimensions for spin, charge, relative location in space, mass....

God damn you are uninitiated and pathetic
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>>136324332
>>136324316
Since you guys are mentioning other dimensions, I guess I will describe my "Trip".
It wasn't really a trip at all. It was like the real world melted, slipped away and the new world was a structure made entirely of light. Solid light is how I'd describe it. It was multicolored, like light shooting out from a prism.
Pillars constructed themselves before my eyes to my left and to my right. The wall in front of me pushed forward into what seemed like infinity. The walls and floor of the room itself turned bright white.
And then I saw two giant... being? Made up of the solid light stuff. I called one of them "The King" apparently, as was explained to me after the fact by my wife, who's trip was... less than stellar (She only had one drop IIRC).
Anyway, I felt every emotion I was capable of feeling all at once when the giant on the left reached out with his hand in a fist, and slowly moved it toward me. It seemed to break through an "invisible" bubble around me. I didn't notice the bubble until it did that. The bubble closed around it's arm, it's fist got close to my face, then it turned it's fist around and opened it's... Hand? I guess? to be palm-up in front of my face.
I then reached out to touch it, and as soon as we made contact... It all disappeared. Like in the blink of an eye I was out of it entirely. I had tears streaming down my face and I couldn't tell you why. The last thing I remember was trying to touch the giant... light... demon thing.

The thread is probably dead now.
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The real reason the cia became interested in it was because they noticed the soviets bought 2 million barrels of it from sandoz.

>>136324871
Its more common than you think especially in the uk we have a very degenerate drug taking culture that coincides witg our underground rave culture. People take 1 gram of mdma a night at raves here, ask any brit and theyll tell you the same and we get actual good mdma from the NL
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>>136320847
I dropped a tab last night and furiously rode my road bike across the canals of Phoenix. I thought over the facets of my life as I watched the sun set, the massive clouds condense and collapse into thunderstorms, I saw the beauty and complexity of this land and all the creature that live in it, from birds and coyotes to homeless crackheads huddling together in the underpass tunnels. I felt a connection to all this, and saw beauty in the whole. I was a part of all this, and it was all an integrated and interlinked thing. I felt connected to the world, felt a grand sense of sonder, and felt simultaneously individual and part of a greater whole. Every sharp turn or massive drop gave me vivid visions of the costs of failure and the horrible fate I would suffer in a crash, in full CSI detail. In spite of these horrific and brutal visions I did not fear but rather felt the fear evaporate from me. I felt no fear. It was in the way. I felt only exhilarating and overwhelming awe at the world and my place in it, and faith in myself was restored.

There's something really significant about being able to take a step back from your personality and perspective and evaluate it, and LSD let's you do that. It changes you because it makes you aware of things you (or really, your ego) have hidden from yourself, your blindspots, your self denial. The shift in perspective it gives you, the wholeness of it.. you can't really describe it. But for those who have never experienced it, I feel for them. Fortunately, everyone gets the psychedelic experience at least once in their lifetime. When they fucking die.

However getting there, either through DMT, LSD, mescaline, or another route while your still alive can be an extremely powerful and life changing experience. You can see there is more to existence than this fleshy prison. You can understand there is mystery in the infinite and power in your life.

It is the infared pill.
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>>136324195
Kek!

They were looking in the wrong place and fucking around with the wrong shit. Psych phenomena manifests only partially due to human DNA (genetics). The main catalyst is due to microbial organisms, such as bacteria within our body. It is quantum biology and epigenetics.
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>>136324187
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>>136324649
>looking at your cell phone while doing a hgue amount of acid

that's how i know your story is a lie. dumbshit.

>hhhuuuuuuuugely experience megatripper here, gonna leave my cell phone on so anyone can ruin my trip at any time!
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>>136324526
This. To go without a true, intense psychedelic experience in your lifetime is an extreme disservice to your mind, body, and soul.
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>>136325096
that time tho
>off by one second
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>>136320322

idk senpai

here's 10k mk ultra files

https://mega.nz/#F!AqZFDYCC!Gq4tNN1QJGi6frEGfd3FBw
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>>136325179
i know about your mdma rave culture that shit is degenerate

i just think that its bullshit if you do lsd 2 times a week for 3 months your tolerance would be high as fuck and youd either be not feeling it much
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>>136324812
My thought processes and lines of reasoning are changed.
I often had dreams where I was tripping. Kinda like how you can dream in a foreign language if you speak it.

Basically had night terrors and sleep paralysis, but I got over it by learning how to lucid dream.
I got get self awareness in dreams pretty quickly.

A lot of times now I dream, wake up, and be unsatisfied with something, so I'll go back to sleep and fix it.
I was pretty shattered there for a bit, but I'm pretty good now.
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>>136324173
>ID
>yZEJ0PsY
>PsY
Wow, my top favorite genre of music.
Dark Psy.
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>>136325242
Pretty much this I understood within my first few trips phone are strict no
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>>136324034
Oh look its another case of simple minded anons not understanding that just because govt retards who have more money than they know what to do with decide to spend that money to validate their fantastical experiments and try to find something crazy, doesn't mean that what they were experimenting with was in any way valid or real. CIA retards are no different from civilian retards, its time you people figured this out. They just have more money and power to do the things you can't. So while you are forced to LARP, they can LARP harder with "experiments".
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>>136325242
It doesn't ruin your trip if you have no friends which can call you

But on higher doses electronics in general just get too annoying to look at, that's why I don't get how people can sit still and watch a movie or some shit during an acid trip
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>>136325123

Been there.

You're special, anon.
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>>136325355
>Dark Psy.
do you like psykovsky
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>>136321639
can a mod ban this teenage please?
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>>136325283

Spiritual new ago mumbo jumbo aside, it really is such a novel and unique experience you can't get elsewhere.

Evenue if you are Le rational skeptic man, it''s still interesting how just a hundred or so ug of a chemical can wreak absolute havoc on your mental state.

Good stuff.
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>>136325242
It was 11 at night when I started, and the 2nd time I had done it.
I didn't know any better.
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>>136325365
>>136325242
What kind of texts are you people getting that ruin trips? I leave my phone on all the time and have no issues. Why would people just randomly text mean shit to you?

That being said trying to text while on acid is a waste of time cause it takes like an hour to type out a sentence.
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lsd allows some people to gain esp ability.
can you handle that truth?

blue-pill = 0 psychedelic experience.
red-pill = understand psychedelic experiences.
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>>136325096
Mushroom requires high dosage and a strong mind to experience their full potential, Lsd is a better entry point and you don't understand shit about mckenna he was the counter culture of his time so obviously a hippie but a prolific speaker
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>>136325120
Friend turned really sinister looking we decided itd be a good idea to watch david icke and his skin turned green and like a lizards and his eyes went red and contorted into reptile ones. Then atartes to hear alien noises and though my friend was licking has lipa to taste the air to see what i tasted like, so he could eat. Got stuck in the samebthough loop for 6 hours.
>>136325346
My friend inherited 250k and we had an unlimited supply, he bought 5vvials of it for us all
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>>136320322
Literally chemical warfare. Thanks for turning my country into a drug den. We couldn't have done it without you. Best regards Adolf Hitler.
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>>136324449
I got some after going to Peru. Crazy its illegal. They aren't addictive. Just a mild stimulant that helps with fatigue
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>>136325123
It's even more insufferable than listening to people talk about their dreams.
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>>136325473
It's your connection to reality, the less outside stimulus you get the better the trip
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>>136324034

LSD isn't used for RVing.

You can't control RV when you're fucked up, it doesn't work like that.

It's used for psyche shattering (splintering personalities, implanting them, etc.)
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>>136325242
I was able to figure out my location off of Google maps while high on 3 grams of mushrooms but it was really really fucking difficult and it took a lot longer than it should have

It is unlikely but not impossible
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>>136324513
Of course they do, just different ones. Degenerate druggies just love drugs more than their life. Usually just means they have a shitty life.
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>>136325510

>Just a mild stimulant that helps with fatigue

It's amazing, you can jog up a hill forever.

No palpitations or anything like that. I love how mellow they are.
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>>136325183
Hey anon, Phoenix here too. Aren't the sunrises beautiful? Like every fucking day, but at least on acid you won't take it for granted.
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>>136325563
haha he gets it. you can't RV while on LSD. if you think you can do anything on any psychedelics besides being high as fuck you are new and should leave
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>>136324649
This is what druggies try to convince you is a good idea. No thanks faggot, I am not going to voluntarily imbibe some schizophrenia inducing, brain shattering substance.
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>>136325509
Hitler used meth and morphine and gave his soldiers meth
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>>136325123
Allow me to translate. You were born. While in the womb our minds do dream once developed. Your world in thought suddenly became reality.
Once born there were 2 pillars "mom" and "dad" one which granted nurturing and one that was noisy, smelled, and almost frightening.
You found confronted by a moral bubble of thought. Which you realized once striking and bursting that bubble. You regretted destroying something that you held on too so closely, but so fragile it could disappear instantly. The demon is you.
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it makes you see cool fractals and shit
does have some weird telepathic effects in my experience as well. maybe it's just that you can pick up on people's body language and you are more empathetic or something but i have had some weird experiences on it like i will look at some random person and they will instantly make eye contact with me. things like that happen normally too but on acid it's more pronounced
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>>136325410
I've thought about going back, because I really feel like I could maybe be a little more coherent this time and perhaps engage. Or just confirm that it was all an insane dream. I still feel like they're just standing around me all the time. Watching me do shit. Not in a bad way, but... Fuck I don't know man. Someone I would want to be there.
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>>136324526
>Hey man... It's like wow... It really opens up my mind man... Now let's roll in mud and fuck in front of everybody, man. Let's not have kids and let in niggers and spics man. Let's not leave anything for our few children and be totally self absorbed, man.

- t. The generation that took drugs

I think I'll pass. Adrenaline and war are a much better drug.
Thanks for allowing war to happen though.
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>>136325478
He was literally saying white women should have only one child while browns like yourself should have as many as they want because the browns have less carbon footprint and don't cause global warming. Literally jew shit you hear today from Salon Articles. Fuck you, pajeet, he was a goddamn idiot and only bluepilled idiots take him seriously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdQaBd6dHAE

Paul Stamets is the guy you wanna listen to and read for mushrooms. McKenna is a fucking hack.
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>>136324507
I know it. I smoked allot of weed/hashish back then too. I thought my roommates cat was talking to me via telepathy when i got really really high once. Cut it out of my life pretty quickly after that. Lots of ragerts.

>>136324519
its not a joke. That's seriously what i thought.
The lsd was a trigger to stop all anyone who was in a simulation because it meant that something had gone horribly horribly wrong with the environment. and cage would be the one who would show me everything that had been figured out about humanities past so far. The walls of reality were breaking down and everyone in my life was simply paid actors in the simulation. They all knew I was the only real human. NEVER again.
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>>136325508
the biggest dose of psychs i ever did was a half ounce of mushrooms and it left me feeling weird for a while after
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>>136323080
Life is a controlled hallucination created by our conscious, how do you think your brain works, you fucking retard. Everything you perceive is made in a way that not even a single human being on this Earth can explain how or why. In altered states of mind your subconscious is easier to reach / communicate. It's all chemical interactions with the brain, common sense, but you're too much of a fuck up and never passed school.
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>>136325733
congrats bro like i did so many hits of acid and was totally sober. just fuck off. if you think you are serious you got ripped off
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>>136320322
sex > drugs
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>>136325627
It's not always a waste of time to understand things that you've gone through, and to talk about similar experiences with others. Not everything has to be about "doing something meaningful" all the time.
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>>136325620
If you are a human all life is shitty. Only humans have the spark of good in them, nature is just brutal, dirty and efficient. Having to live in this natural world is genuinely shitty for a person, if you go through life without as many distractions as possible there is zero chance you are human.
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blue-pill = never tried a psychedelic.
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>>136320322
Because a few nanograms could fuck shit up
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>>136320322
nothing more bluepilled than drugs.
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>>136325429
I'm in asshole. I downloaded so much free music from Ektoplazm, that I barely know any of the artist and add them (individual songs I like) to different playlists by vibes. So no, I don't know this artist. But fuck, if the bass doesn't massage my nuts in my car's great custom sound system.
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>>136325733

RV'ing is a totally different thing.

It requires complete awareness in the moment itself to control.

You physically cannot do that on LSD.
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>>136325805
Ive done a half o of shrooms too. In fact it was the last trip i had. Once you get the message hang up the phone. Felt my hody lift up to the stars when I closed my eyes and it was if the stars were infront of me and talking
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i have always wanted to slip someone who doesn't know they're being dosed a large dose of lsd and make them watch the hellraiser franchise. just to see what would happen.
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>>136325542
You can barely even use your phone while high anyway it really makes no difference.
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>>136325478
>Mushroom requires high dosage and a strong mind to experience their full potential
3.5 grams of shrooms is a nice strong trip. I have taken a lot more before and tripped very hard but I have had some very positive/thoughtful trips at 3.5 grams as well.
> Lsd is a better entry point
In my experience people are a lot less likely to have a bad trip on mushrooms than LSD.I have done a little bit of LSD and had a few strong good trips, but mushrooms are more "comfy".
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>>136325695
Or, his brain was just spazzing out and creating nonsensical images, while simultaneously convincing itself that those images and ideas had some kind of meaning. You druggies are so fucking stupid.
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>>136325637
He'll yeah.. sunrises and sunsets are almost always amazing here.. but last night's sunset was pretty fucking epic. From my perspective, the sun was partly eclipsed by a stormcloud and the shadows from the cloud made bands of shadows across the entire sky that showed the curvature of the sky and I kept thinking to myself "flat earthers BTFO"

It was a helluva sunset
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>>136320322
i'm torn between putting a bullet in every dealer, and legalizing all drugs in the context of luxury psychiatric facilities.
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Trusting to put a drug the CIA loves in your body, a drug that for all we know was secretly invented by the elites for some specific and possibly demonic purpose, that seems risky.

especially with everything you know /pol/
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>>136325870
he is pretty good imo he is russian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWRaLmIrTJ8
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>>136325695
But that's not even remotely what happened. Two giant things made of fucking light looked down at me and one of them allowed me to touch it's hand.
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>>136325916
they'd spend the entire time laughing at how degenerate it is to sit in a room for 12 hours
watching fake blue-pilled depictions of hell.
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>>136325959

I poison myself willingly to gain perspective.

Will is everything.
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>>136325837
drugs are gay.
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>>136324562
For me the more intense trips caused the perception of different planes of perspective to flip and swap. A wall on the other side of a room and the couch in front of it would trade places in my depth field. Patterns of fabric would expand out and fill the whole room.

The worst visual effect was that I would go blind except for chunks. I would have to carefully move up to the places I could see and then move to the next little island of reality that was visible
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>>136325542
Nah, trip in public all the time and absolutely love it. Didn't use to, but you get over the sissy feelings pretty quick. DMT breaks at work and I'll sit at my station watching fractals unwind
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>>136325985
then you just old everyone including anyone monitoring this that you are legally insane. congrats bro! good job man!!
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>>136325961

And you felt more connected afterwards, with a perspective you couldn't imagine having before?
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>>136325942
Its not the images that give you meaning. Its thought patterns. If youve ever meditated its like that times 100
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>>136325915
>In fact it was the last trip i had
this is how it was for me i quit doing drugs other than weed and drink alcohol sometimes if i do trip again it will be in years
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>>136325942
Made sense to me.
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>>136326084
No.
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>>136326078
Common drug myth akin to the one the boy who took acid and thought he was a glass of orange juice
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>>136325959
LSD isn't like some weird unknown chemical. At the heart of it is the indole backbone as tryptamine, serotonin, tryptophan, etc.
There's nothing malicious about it in the sense that it can't do things that you wouldn't expect it to do.
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>>136320322
acid is an antidepressant like prozac. you're better off looking at porn, which is also gay.
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>>136326155

Huh, I did.

But mine didn't disappear when I made contact.
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>>136325627
You are incredibly dense if you think a 15 minute DMT trip where you apparently broke through was a waste of time.
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>>136320322
because it's fuckin' awesome and helps your brain attune itself to the frequency of the universe that GOD is on. uh, DUH!. get on this ESP level, bro.
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>>136324564
I liked to pretend I was able to tune into all the other people tripping. I couldnt communicate with them, but I could sense them all over the earth like spot lights shining up into the sky beyond the horizon. There were a couple of times that a big batch would land and you could really feel all the people out there
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>>136324187
Lol
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>>136326099
Same here, only I dont use alcohol or weed. Just a bit of codeine each week. Much more comfy and I cant take weed or alcohol because im a schizo
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>>136325961
Read your own words. not once but twice. Pillars support. Some more than others. Both affect structural integrity. LSD changes your reality momentarily.
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>>136326198
look at pink floyd. you clearly have never taken acid before. you can't do it too much. not a doctor, but legally here if you do it over so many times you are considered legally insane
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>>136326228
Hahahahahahahahavav no it isnt
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>>136320322
list of bluepilled things:
drugs
porn
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>>136323439
250ug's is a very high dose. Your source is a lying cunt, because that would flaw you. I have seen it flaw veterans.

Most tabs are MASSIVELY over exaggerated in strength, and are usually well under 100ug.

Threshold dose is roughly 25ug.
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>>136326054
Good way of describing it. I remember seeing shit in all white first, like a blank white canvas, then my mind scrambled to draw up the lines, then adding color to what I was seeing, but it was difficult and I fucked up. It's like your brain is painting a picture all the time of what you see, but on a high trip that process gets interrupted and you start over after getting basic information down like shape and form. You have to literally work your ass off in order to see.

Super interesting phenomenon, we still don't know exactly how it works.
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>>136320322
potential truth serum.

turns out it's not that, it just makes you trip balls.
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take the red-pill.
the biggest lsd band wasn't pink floyd...
it was the beatles.
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>>136326088
A drugged up brain will find meaning in anything, seeing as how even a sober one doesn't have trouble doing the same.

>>136326150
I am not surprised, druggies usually are convinced that they have "figured out" some deep and non-existent meaning within the drugged out ramblings of their minds.
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>>136326237

kek, look at how mad they get when someone is able to analyze their hallucination and conclude that it means little. he did the same drug as you, why do you think your opinion is worth more than his.
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>>136325668
How does one remote view? Asking for a friend
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>>136324620
It's accurate for recreational doses. Beyond that the ability to see starts totally breaking down at times. I think it's almost safer to trip really hard. You can get really confused if you are only half way in. That's when anxiety gets you
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>>136326402

It was the Doors, and it's not even close.
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>>136326310
This. Is. An. Urban. Myth
Shame on your for talking outchyo ass nigga
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>>136326420
I love the fact that I am a druggie here. Assumptions come from assholes. Perhaps you can kiss mine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWodyapGNxI
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>>136325960
Just like Am/Pm's motto;
>too much good stuff
>>136326310
>LSD
>the psychedelic Jew
DMT FTW amirite?
>>136326237
>most pozzed post in this thread
Congratulations.
Pic 4 U.
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>>136326304
It was pillars all up and down the left and right side of the room I was in. Not something about daddy issues. Not two different pillars. Beams of multicolored light, one after another, into oblivion.
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>>136321639
>real men who smoke weed

Willyou ever kys?
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>>136326310
I did become insane from acid but its only because I used it every week. But im not some sub 90 iq nigger qho believes drug myths and blames the chemical and not my own stupidity the fact that my Mum had schizophrenia and you arent meant to take it if it runs in your family
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>>136326420

Man, you're really dead inside.
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>>136320322
autism
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>>136326478
It is pretty amusing isn't it? Their entire "psychedelics are the key to unlocking the secrets of the universe" narrative falls apart as soon as someone who doesn't go into it convinced that that is the case tries tripping themselves.
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>>136320322
drugs are the most communist thing in the world.
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>>136320847
i did it once it was terrible
i tried sleeping and realized ive been daydreaming trying to sleep for 7 hours, i was awake while i was dreaming and i woke up feeling like i havent slept in days
its up to you if you try it, i never want to ever again it was shit and it turns you into either a monster or a beta when interacting with people
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>>136326485
there are unclassified cia documents https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00789R003300210001-2.pdf
for me it's random. it's hardly precise
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>>136324173
Don't be a faggot. It's only HPPD if it's considered to be a disruption to ones life.

Learn to love the visual noise.
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>>136326565
How many support you is your business I just translated your trip.
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>>136326310
That's another myth. It's like you got all your information about LSD from an after-school special. You don't get declared insane if you take a drug, any drug, x amount of times. How fucking arbitrary is that? People's brain chemistry all differ and people's psychiatry also differ. You can't apply some stringent random number to how many times they trip for them to be automatically declared insane, it's ridiculous and anti-science.
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>>136326402
Jefferson Airplane is also a good LSD band in my own experience.
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>>136326420
It juat puts you in a meditative trance thats all.
Why would our brain hve the receptors for these experiences?
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>>136326553
nope. you are considered legally insane if you take too much acid. and i wouldn't blame them
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>>136321639
>projecting this hard
>getting this upset at some guy on the internet
>being an internet tough guy
hang yourself
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>>136326078
Just means his 5ht2 receptors downregulated, lsd tolerance builds rapidly
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>>136326556
Well, you are the one who is convinced you deciphered the hallucinations of a drugged up mind and figured out some kind of hidden message.

>>136326609
This doesn't even mean anything. Are you this dimwitted that you thought this constituted some kind of point, much less an argument? In fact, what is your point?
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>>136326574
it may not make you insane but you can't deny it fucks with your neural pathways in your brain
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>>136323661

>he thinks acid is addictive
>laughingsluts.jpg
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>>136320322
(((cia)))
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>>136325563
There are more things than mere remote viewing (RV). I've never did RV, but I do regularly experience claircognizance. The more I focus on something, the greater the information acquired. Learning to direct your focus generates useful, and even strategic, information.
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>>136326679
Your brain doesn't have the receptors for "these experiences", it just has receptors that happen to be able to bind to more than one chemical compound, not by design, but in fact because your brain evolved and therefore had no way of magically tailoring itself to acccept only "intended" chemicals.
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>>136324492
Shitty acid yeah.

Really high quality LSD is phenomenally clean and enjoyable. It's just very difficult to find.
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>>136325183
This describes the ideal initiation.

You were fortunate to have it.

We would all be better people of we had this common bonding experience.

What is acid like for dumb people and niggers? Indians?
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>>136326687
Wrong acid doesn't effect your brain only your mindstate. Real acid won't make anyone insane except people who already were and denied it
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>>136326660
you clearly have not lived around acid heads
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>>136326730
And ???????? Perhaps I am Just some looser up at 1:47 am eastern translating the hallucinations of a person doing an illegal drug while arguing with some asshole holier than thou clicking keys on a board.
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>>136326730

>In fact, what is your point?

You've let your imagination die, and it's sad.
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>>136320847
it will certainly make you aware of your mortality. a lot of people walk around like they're a character in a video game or movie or some shit. doing hallucinogenics will get rid of that
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>>136322487
>[drug] will open your mind, man.
>[drug] is a way to find your true inner self, man.
>[drug] will change you life, man.

Always the same shit, just drop the excuses and tell everyone you want to get high because you are bored. I can understand amphetamine and similar performance enhancers, at least they make you productive, but fuck off with the retard drugs.
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also why the fuck did my flag change to the confederate flag? i had it set to gaden? the fuck?
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>>136326871
doesn't matter to me or you. if you admit to doing it to x many times you are legally considered insane by the state sucks right?
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>>136320322
drug culture is pure cancer.
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>>136325508
Oh snap I've experienced something similar where my friend turned red his chin reached on the top of his head and he started growing Horns pretty op experience
>>136325740
>implying he was wrong for his time
I repeat he existed is a different time but you seem too dense to understand
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>>136321836
Most accurate gif I have seen to describe acid or mushrooms. Amazing
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>>136322026

total opposite actually. some people have even started calling LSD a "suggestogen" because it actually weakens critical thought.
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>>136326655
This is pretty much it, only The floor and ceiling were white, but everything else is pretty close.
I don't know what to search for to find anything that looks like the light giants, and googling "light giants" is... Not helpful.
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>>136327016
no one cares about your opinion in this thread virgin
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>>136326647
You didnt read my other post on my hppd.
>>136326485
Close your eyes and stay awake and imagine you are going down a ladder, like the physical movement without moving. Do this without moving at all whilst lying down not even to scratch, on your back.

Dont do it though it fucked me up real good I saw entities that chased me around.
Was probably the CIA
>>136326845
Why do mushrooms contain chemicals that turn these receptors into overdrive?>>136326927
What about using them as a meditation aid?
Buddhist monks would use blue lotus which was a mild psych
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>>136326891
Perhaps. But I assumed otherwise.

>>136326907
My imagination is perfectly alive and well. Need I remind you that an over-reliance on one's imagination, and believing that your imagination is somehow connected to reality, are both the marks of a childish mind? You are extolling the "virtue" of having an over-active (for an adult) childish mind, that struggles to distinguish between fiction and reality?
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it reveals the truth, you are god.
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>>136326655
Interpreted, not Translated.
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>>136327021
POO IN LOO
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>>136326927
The ones who take acid because "they are bored" are the same ones in this thread who are saying "man i didn't feel any long lasting message it was just confusion for 7 hours". Also lol at how you shill for amphetamines in the same post. Judging by that and your meme flag It's plain to deduce you are an unimaginative, possibly autistic retard who thinks drugs should be used only if it can get your homework done faster.
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>>136327072
You were just re-living your life from birth until now. Imagine how bright lights are to your emerging eyes during birth. Birth and life is painful. Death is relief.
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>>136327074
virgin is the highest compliment.
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>>136327170
>Why do mushrooms contain chemicals that turn these receptors into overdrive?

What do you mean, "why"? Because that is how they chemically function. What is your point?
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so many blue-pilled people..

still haven't figured out it is a scientific fact now

individuals that have used psychedelics are generally healthier than those that have never done psychedelics.
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>>136326927

what's funny is that people doing coke and meth have the same grandiose delusions but they snap out of it, with hallucinogens it just gets imprinted somehow and goes on and on.
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>>136326620
>>136326620
Go into any experience thinking you'll take nothing out of it and that's the most likely outcome. Not everyone needs to believe they entered another universe and conversed with aliens or something "out there" like that. The hallucinations are an important aspect of the trip however the insight that's gained during the ordeal is the truly important part. There's a reason most people experience a large change in their openness after a trip and you can debate on the theories and hallucinations while high all day but psychedelics are extremely important for that reason alone.
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>>136327173

Your compulsion for a solely quantitative world will leave you a tired, angry old man.
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>>136327188
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAUY1J8KizU
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>>136326927
Also lsd at low doses called a microdose is as useful as amphetamines for productivity. Im talking a dose that doesnt make you high or trip just an extra bit of dopamine.
Theyre actually looking into it as an adhd cure
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>>136327074
i only kiss virgins. faggot. go rape yourself with a shotgun.
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>>136327021
>implying he was wrong for his time
Of course he was, he was fucking wrong then and he's fucking wrong now. Redpills aren't time sensitive.
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>>136324810

agreed, same experience. LSD is one of humanity's greatest inventions, in that it shows how plastic reality is and effects a thorough metanoia. but normal religious practice remains just as effective and safer.
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>>136327221
I didn't relive anything. I'm sorry, it doesn't work the same for everyone. I felt that I talked with the architects of some other dimension. Nothing about my life at all was even thought about.
In fact, I didn't think about myself at all really for a very long time after that.
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>>136327173
So We are all just losers or drug addicts posting on some image messaging board.
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>>136327074
virgin here. ask me anything.
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>>136327295
just like tuning-up an out of tune guitar string..
just enough is in harmony.
too much snaps the string.
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>>136326687
U Wrong Nigga
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>>136327343
Exactly.... How do you not see that you wee re-living whats in your mind as traumatic experiences?
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>>136327373
Why do we experience such emotional pain over a hole in a woman's body?
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>>136327074
LGBTV. Virginsexual.
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>>136326878
It's all I've done. U Still Wrong Nigga
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>>136325830
If you are a defeated cuck you feel that way.

Another attitude to have is that life is challenging and the heroic thing to do is overcome it and find joy in it.

Maybe try that?
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>>136327235
So you dont have a good answer kek

Reason for everything. Its only a certain strain that has it, why did this strain adapt this chemical in its evoloution is what im saying
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>>136327432
Because I wasn't? There was no time loss, my wife was there the whole time. I remember everything very vividly, except what I was saying, which was told to me after I came out of it.
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>>136327480
because guns and pussy are the only things worth living for.
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>>136326499
That makes a lot of sense. The first time I only did half a tab, was near a lighthouse and it started morphing and my brain just couldn't handle it, felt like my heart was stopping and perpetually going over a cliff into death. Once i got passed that it was pretty interesting though, profound conversations about why people do what they do everyday ect.
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>>136327258
You can easily snap your brain with all three.
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>>136326849
>high quality LSD is phenomenally clean and enjoyable. It's just very difficult to find.
so right bro, just like when alcohol was contraband, people were selling poison moonshine that made you go blind
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>>136327573
You were able to go through a traumatic experience for a second time and you still chose violence. I am disappointed.
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>>136327585
You sound like a sociopath which is probably why you dont see why empathogeons are useful
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>>136327261
The reason is it changes your brain chemistry, that's it. I have yet to hear an argument for why this is even a good thing. How is permanently altering your brain chemistry to be in a state in which it was unlikely to ever be, especially permanently, a good thing? Openness is not automatically a good thing either.

>>136327288
I don't have a compulsion. And your assertion is wrong, and similar to other worthless assertions people throw around thinking they are being insightful, such as one I am sure you have seen before, "you will die a virgin!", or another such as, "nobody will ever care about you"! These aren't arguments, and they aren't worth anything. I have yet to determine what the purpose of this kind of statement even is. Is it mean to scare me or something? Do you actually believe that I would simply accept your assertion as fact, just because you claimed it?

>>136327352
I don't take drugs. So not a drug addict. Loser? I don't know, that is subjective.
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>>136327758
You made the assumption. Not I...............
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>>136327729
Out of hundreds and hundreds of doses, I can think of a single one that was the kind of high quality I'm thinking of.
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>>136327747
we're all sociopath perverts and psychopath bigots. drugs are literally antipsychotics to keep you gay.
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>>136327564
There is no "good" answer, there is only a correct answer, which I just gave you. It's not my fault it's not to your "liking". As to your new question, the reason is that all biological life is related, that is why bio-chemistry is similar enough many species, including between plants and animals. Its that simple. Plants produce this chemical for some biological function just like animals do, and both sometimes have similar enough receptors that the animal can accept the plant's version of some chemicals. Its just like with phyto-estogens. Plants produce their own estrogen that can bind in the human body too, even though it was never "meant" for the human body. Simply because if you go far enough, all life has a common ancestor and is biochemically similar.
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>>136320847
Indeed. The guy who discovered PCR (see pic) which a big acid head and reportly thought up how PCR worked while he was on acid
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>>136326394
The way I understand visual processimg it actually is exactly this process. When you trip too hard the process gets frozen and you have to negotiate you way through space using the chunks that are still stuck in your memory. Fact is that we don't see reality, just a rough approximate of it. The other trick our mind plays is to tell us that we see and understand all the stuff in between that we aren't actually conscious of.

Part of that sense that you understand and are part of the entire universe is the result of the approximation routine going haywire and bleeding out into your sense of everything.

Take a deep trip thought and analyze it sober. It's usually nonsense, but your brain kind of shades in all the detail and has you convinced it is a coherent thought.
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>>136327738
Oh wow. You're insane. Ok.
I'm pretty sure I can deal with the weight of some disappointment of a stranger on the internet.
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>>136326078
hahaha what a dumbass telling people his legally insane
>>136326708
your tolerance doesn't mean shit when you lose your fucking mind
>>136327222
this guy is mad i am spot on
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>>136327258
>with hallucinogens it just gets imprinted somehow and goes on and on

And this is how you know this asshat has zero clue about what it's talking about.

Do you feel cool now that you got some frauding on the internet done?
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>>136327564
Psilocybin contains a unique and unexplained 4-phosphoryloxy group.

In other words no one really knows. They are a very unique and bizarre naturally occurring substance.
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>>136320322
Why are YOU so obsessed with LSD
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>>136320847
If you're not having bad trips you're doing it wrong
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>>136328115
You take LSD.... I do not..... I am the insane one?
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>>136324620
PFFFT thinking you know MY subjective acid experience
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>>136328272
probably.
the ironic thing about lsd..
it's a very sobering experience.
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>>136324620
I've only ever saw those visuals

I went mountain biking once on shrooms, a friends idea i wouldn't usually do on a psychedelic. That was AN experience with intense visuals.
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>>136328234
Fuckin oath m8. BASED AF LEAF.
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>>136328272
I took LSD once, yes.
And you and insisting you know what my trip was, when you've both never experienced said drug, and have no idea what I've experienced.
You base this firm assertion on some 100 word description. You seem not sane to me, but I'm no doctor.
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>>136327898
This guy gets it. I am truly the craziest when I'm completely sober for long periods of time. I guess that's when my neurochems are closest to a real natural healthy human male so I just wanna fucking dominate and impregnate everything around me.
That's when you get the tribe together and do a fascist ethno revolution.
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>>136327861
my lsd experiences were all twenty plus years ago, (about a dozen or so times} i'm sure the shit people are buying now is different, but for me
the crappy stuff- cold clammy feeling in your hands, butterflies in your stomach, edgy, nervous, twitchy
the good shit- more powerful, totally relaxed, in control and at peace, a moving experience that you learn something from and come away a more insightful person
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>>136328358
A sobering experience is changing the diaper of an aunt, uncle, parent, or sibling while watching them die slowly. LSD covers those experiences for the weak.
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>>136320322
Because there is nothing else quite like it, and it absolutely had the potential to be extremely useful to them in a wide range of potential applications... given the right circumstances.
>espionage/counter espionage
>assassination/conversion
>social engineering/psychology/mind control
>and on and on

The biggest problem they had to accept was that there are a lot of factors totally outside of their control in the process. If you are aiming for some specific outcome after dosing somebody, you really have no guarantee of success, or even progress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydor_2TaoMg

>>136320847
He asked why the Cia was so interested in it, not for your basic-bitch, generic insights from your 1st trip.
>muh details, muh happyy
Bravo! You've managed to offer absolutely nothing to the curious people who haven't taken it, and absolutely nothing new for those that have.

>>136321097
If they had any self awareness, they'd be force to acknowledge that they are utter tools.

Be that as it may, his account was not inaccurate. If your first trip does go well you can absolutely experience a lingering happiness for weeks/ months & lasting appreciation for minutiae that you would've otherwise ignored. This is because your first acid trip will likely be one of the most unique experiences of your life.

You undergo a complete shift in perception that you cannot fully understand or explain, a sort of rebirth.
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>>136328540
Really good LSD was much more common back then. There were legit chemists getting around.

LOTS of shitty acid (If you even get LSD these days) going around in modern times but the real angel tears are still out there in short supply.
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>>136327507
hahaha enlighten us oh acid one
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>>136328458
Thank you for not putting other peoples well being in the hands of a drug addict. Glad to see you are not a doctor. Now go get high so the rest of us can keep the real world rolling.
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>>136328559
A sobering experience is picking your friend off the DFAC floor, piece by piece, while you wonder if any more mortars will hit before you can manage to get him all on the upturned table and dragged out of the debris.

But you know, Slightly sad things will sometimes sober you up too, I guess. Ya pussy.
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>>136325695
>projecting this hard
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>>136324034
i just raped ur mum with my mind
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>>136328760
Guess if you was not high you would not be scraping your friend off the floor. Inconsiderate assumption by me but prolly holds some truth for you.
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>>136328738
I got some good shit in 1999, 2006, 2012. Between and after those I would avoid it because I knew the source was unreliable. Rcs really can fry you.
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>>136328842
Stick to being a frog.
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>>136328559
If someone who has the capacity for dignity ends up wearing a diaper that I have to change, I believe letting them go would be the ultimately best solution.

Or at least hiring a nurse, shit dawg. I would never want my son wiping my ass for me. Never in my life. Just kill me at that point.
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>>136327326
No he wasn't you are retarded American who can't understand nuances
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>>136328740
Well what you want to know?

Shit about psychs, I got plenty of info.

How to not be a faggot. Can't help ya.
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>>136328888
>Rcs really can fry you.
This.
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>>136328967
Grow up. They wiped your ass not a nurse. Dignity is having the ones you love usher you out. You can let them go but its not your choice to make. Just do it.
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>>136329009
first of all hate to be that guy but stop being reddit. second. you can lose your mind if you do too much. third https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00789R003300210001-2.pdf
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>>136328872
Your grammar is atrocious.
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>>136325183
This guy gets it

Truly moving bro. I used trip and go for bike rides. Oz bro here. I almost felt like my soul was sick if i didn't trip at least once again to get that ego death.. Been a few years now. I thought it was something so sacred but Google ruined it with the deep mind imagery... No philosophical insights but that computer generated imagery really really bugs me. What do you think ?
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>>136328540
>the crappy stuff- cold clammy feeling in your hands, butterflies in your stomach, edgy, nervous, twitchy
>the good shit- more powerful, totally relaxed, in control and at peace, a moving experience that you learn something from and come away a more insightful person

without context i would think you are comparing bad and good coke kek. I love good coke.
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>>136329096
rcs can kill you not just fry you
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>>136329164
Im sorry, but you can still comprehend my words. You focus on getting high on LSD and grammar. I will just work around you in reality.
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>>136329349
You're a terrible troll, kiddo.
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>>136329197
they probably cut the shitty coke with the same poison
only tried coke a few times, it's pleasant when added to a fat doob, but way over-rated imo
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>>136329349
is english your first language? otherwise i can understand why no one understands what the fuck you are saying
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>>136329162
>omgz u use wrong space
Yes you can lose your mind if you do too much, but honestly I feel like you've gotta really work at it, or be a weak minded fuck.
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>>136329410
Yet you can only focus on me now in the replies?
>>136329429
?
>>
While I was a young adult I had many experiences with LSD and although I was unfortunate enough to choose to do many of my trips in a recreational setting instead of introspective and life improving, i was really able to feel "the magic" or what you may call it.

I believe it is a harmful substance for prolonged or heavy use, but light use can't be worse than moderate alcohol abuse.

If you are able to experience ego death you will learn secrets of your own personality and self, even the very fabric of who you are not as a person, but as the spirit, the true observer that is "you", as seen from a 3rd perspective with the insider knowledge of yourself while you aren't yourself.

I realized many things while I was on LSD by myself, thinking about existence from outside the frame of reference that i have developed as a member of society.

I will be watching a quantum physics lecture on YouTube, and the professor or whatever will say something about how energy can cross dimensions or universes, and I'll remember that I came to natural conclusions for advanced thoughts like that while I was tripping balls alone like a degenerate.

>Tldr, there is something about LSD and hallucinogens and how our brains react to them that if used correctly could open your mind to literal new realities

Our current understanding of brain frequencies and their effects on our unique subjective realities is about the same as the ancients blaming good and bad humors for health problems. The CIA had to have figured something out from their research if a bunch of college chem students could extrapolate crazy cutting edge experimental physics theories from ego detachment.

As my final thought, LSD showed me what we see now, this 3D reality, is the very tip of the iceberg as far as what is actually going on beyond the understanding and laws of this universe. There is an unknowable force that holds everything together, and we are here for a reason, beyond being the universe's witnesses of itself.
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>>136329341
Correct. Certain RC's more than others.
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>>136329505
okay this is just bait... ignore and move a long
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>>136329422
what is a fat doob ?

>but way over-rated imo

i agree, it's totally overrated until you get hooked sadly.
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>>136329555
Click click click..... My drag is set just right.....
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>>136329620
>what is google
>>136329650
i think i broke someone's script
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>>136329422
Coke is great if you're a full blown suicide case. Couple o' fat blasts, bottle of booze and a party full of loose sluts will restore any mans confidence.
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>>136329620
copious quantity of cannabis constrained by a slow burning paper, aka a joint
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>>136329699
Landing you now. Is it not nice to know an uneducated 40 yr old redneck white male has bested you and has drawn you complete attention?
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>>136329771
this guy is a total dork. trying waay too hard. sorry bud
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>>136329699
did i asked you something fucking fag ? shoo shoo fckg 'dunt step on me plz' retard

>>136329806

ok, i use fat doob on a daily basis, i'll use this word now, thanks :D
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>>136320847
Man, I need some acid. Bad. Stoner, but I NEED to try this shit.
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>>136329834
did you just roast yourself? rofl
>>136329916
of course a frog is a frog poster and is ignorant of english on an english speaking board..
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>>136329899
Still upset I called you out for being wrong before.
>do acid seven times and legit legally insane bro

Still wrong faggot. How does it feel to still be living in a D.A.R.E class from the 80's?
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>>136329899
Fighting only makes it so much better for me. You cannot run. I have the hook set.
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