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2018 midterms: Democrats fear no one cares about Russia

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>'We need to talk about what people think about when they wake up in the morning, and it’s not Russia,' said one strategist.

>Fearful of alienating voters who appear more concerned about the economy and health care, Democrats campaigning in districts across the country are de-emphasizing Russia in their rhetoric — and some are warning that a persistent focus on the Russia investigation could backfire.

>In a state that is critical to the party’s efforts to retake the House, Darry Sragow, a Democratic strategist whose California Target Book handicaps races in California, called Russia a “distraction” and said Democrats “are going to be in deep, deep trouble if they don’t start talking about what voters care about.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/05/democrats-trump-russia-blowback-241346
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>>136286630
Always archive or screenshot
https://archive.is/Iu3rw
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>>136286706
>According to Quinnipiac

And we all know how accurate they are.
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>>136286630
Democrats can never be forgiven after trying to exterminate Americans.
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We warned the leftists before, that their sexual harassment bullshit will get old and backfire. And it did. Now their Russia shit started, and we warned them. Now it's backfiring. You can see leftists getting pissed at it. There will be some other thing the Democrats will focus on. Thus is the state of today's Democrat Party. Use some dirt as a political platform. I just hoped they would've realized the Russia shit was a mistake much later, when Republicans would've swooped the 2018 elections.
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>>136287508
if a few of the RINOs and cuckservatives are primaried and lose to MAGA candidate there could still be a pretty red midterm. Especially in the senate.
anybody with half a brain can see congress is in bed with the establishment and are stopping trump at every opportunity.
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>>136287114
According to Rasmussen as well, the one Trump always cites.
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>>136289999
nice digits, but the splits for every poll are pretty much about 38 D / 26 R / 36 I

also, the 33% approval poll also showed that 90% of Democrats disapprove but 95% of Republicans approve. In other words, Trump isn't losing support among his voters, it's just that the people who already hated him are being asked in greater numbers and skewing the results... aka they are doing exactly what caused the election polls to be so wildly inaccurate.
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It's almost like there's a media smear campaign against him
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>>136290519

Yes, just look at >>136286706

Do you think the mainstream media would ever have written such a thing about Obama, even if/when his approval ratings were low? It's nothing but one massive smear campaign by a group that overwhelmingly supported Clinton.
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>>136290372

The only thing that troubles me about these artificially low approval ratings is that the pollsters are no longer trying to gauge public opinion. Instead, they are trying to influence it.
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>>136286630
> We don't carea about treason against the United States of America.
t. Trumpcuck
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>>136289999
>136289999
Nice.
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>>136289999
Did he really go down to 33% on Rasmussen? They had him at 50% quite recently.
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>>136290786
its propaganda 101. Just ignore them and go with what your 2 eyes are actually showing to be true
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>>136290836
>i love sucking muslim cock
t. bongistan resident
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>>136286630
>it's almost like people don't believe our muh russia bullshit after all
>maybe we shouldn't have admitted it was actually bullshit
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>>136290921
(((polls))) doesn't matter at all. Election is 3.5 years away.
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>>136290786
They've done it before too and it backfired. Remember Texas being in play and Hillary up 7 points in Pennsylvania?
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no way the real unemployment rate is almost 65%!!!! u dont know shit about economics lol! everyone is unemployedt hey just aren't counting them!!!! unemployment rate is going down and it's because of Trump!!!!!
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>>136290921

He was at 39% in Rasmussen last I saw.
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>>136286630
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>>136290836
You're the retards that turned an insane amount of blind eyes to treason from Hillary and co, from mainstream media, from everyone the mainstream narrative told you to love. But you jump at nothing because trump is "evil personified" ie you are old enough to remember nothing but obama. I take solace from the fact that you are a Facebook tier brain dead retard, and the majority of people here hate you with a passion.
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Dems have already given up
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>>136286706
P O P C U L T U R E R E F E R E N C E S
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>>136291592
so they try to copy Trump, in hopes it will help, but will only make their base abandon them.
Dems are fucked and they know it.
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>>136291592

The Senate map for Democrats in 2018 is fucking ugly, they know they're screwed even if Trump's job approval rating is 25% this time next year.

Democrats will have to defend 25 Senate seats in 2018, many in states Trump won, whereas Republicans only have to defend eight seats, and seven of those eight are in pretty red states.
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>>136291724
The difference is, Democrats historically have defended labor. Trump isn't, never was going to and is the leader of a party that has decimated the American middle class.
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>>136291592
>Dem Base: WHAT ABOUT MUH COLORED AND FAGS?! WE DON'T WANT TO WORK WE WANT GIMME DATS! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
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>>136286630
>CNN.jpg
HAhahahahahaha! Fake.

The economy was doing fine before Trump came along. Unemployment was already at record low numbers. Since we all know employment is a lagging economic indicator, it is obviously the policies of Obama that continued creating jobs in the private sector.
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>>136291944
>Retard Base: WHAT ABOUT MUH IDENTITY POLITICS, DEFEND THE WHITE RACE LOL FREEDOM FROM THE GOVERNMENT I WORK HARD FOR MY $25K A YEAR!
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>>136291902
>Democrats historically have defended labor.
Democrats historically have defended slavery too, but that's no more relevant to the current Democratic party than your statement is.
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>>136291765
>PA Dem
>Bob Casey Jr.

Thank god, that man is a rapist.
He talks so much about horrors college """rape"""
I think the Senator doth protest to much
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>>136292082
Yeah, because the Democratic party of them was the same Democratic party right? If that's what you think, you're completely ignorant about political history and should stop pretending to know what you're talking about immediately.
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>>136286706
All that matters is that 98% of people who voted for him, would vote for him again.
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>>136291902
Democrats abandoned labor in favor of racial demographics and identity politics. They lost the working class. Had they not shifted strategies, they would have won by 20% (more closely resembling Macron vs Le Pen).
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Democrats will run a campaign in 2018 based around:

Russia, LGBT, trans rights.

How will that go down in Ohio?
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>>136286630
No one ever cared about Russia except Democrats trying to disingenuously channel McCarthy.
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>>136286630

If they're not talking about Russia it's going to be about how straight white men are the devil, which also alienates voters.

They're fucked either way.
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>>136292239
No they didn't, that's a fucking meme you choose to believe because you reside in a reactionary echo chamber. Meanwhile, your unions are being destroyed and you're being lied to about your niche industries being defended because most of you are literally the niggers of the Republican party. Completely divided so that you can believe you matter more to them than niggers mean to me.
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>>136292168
I honestly can't phrase my post in a more easier to understand manner, yet you act as if you are telling me something new despite the fact that the information you just posted is literally in the post you responded to.
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>>136286630
>'We need to talk about what people think about when they wake up in the morning, and it’s not Russia,' said one strategist
They're not wrong. The last time I woke up thinking about Trump was on January 20th, eager to see his inauguration.
Otherwise, I've got more important shit on my mind than Trump or "muh Russia" when I wake up, as is the case with just about every other American.
I personally hope the Democrats keep whining about Trump and identity politics until the midterms. The less they focus on actual policy, the better.
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>>136292421

I used to feel bad that people like you and your children have no future but I realize now that I shouldn't. You're exactly where you belong, with the future you deserve. No point in proselytizing here
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>>136286630
>in other news, Russians have kompromat on Democrat politicians too.
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>>136292383
I didn't vote for Trump, voted 3rd party in a red state. The Democrats didn't have a centralized message that connected with the people. They ran the platform of "Trump is Racist" and "First Woman President". Even Hillary's slogan "Stronger Together" directly contradicted the parties strategy of dividing everybody by race, sex, and gender identity and applying said strategy to every fucking issue.
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>>136292071
>Nigs and fags want special treatment
>Whites just want to not be penalized when applying to college/jobs/grants/loans

>Dems are lazy shits with their hands in other people's pockets
>Reps are hard workers that make the society in which shit heads like you can drink their overpriced starcucks coffee and shit post on your one-mouse-button mac laptops

>Dems want authoritarian government
>Reps just want the government to observe and protect the rights of the people and provide a common defense

>Dems want shitty Washington DC run schools that teach obedience and conformity with no competition in the education market, oh and by the way your child is compelled to go to state schools for 12 years :^)
>Reps want school choice so the schools aren't brainwashing day care centers, teachers aren't grad school flunkies bitter at the world, and private school is no longer a luxury for the rich

Yeah, great party dude.
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>>136292681
Talking down to people won't win you elections.
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>>136292681
>Democrat talking down to people

dems never learn
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>>136292681
Call us deplorables.
That really helps you guys out.
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>>136292681
Kek kys faggot
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This is exactly what they should be doing and why they're talking about single-payer and "A better deal."

We (non-shills) all know Trump is guilty, but there is no use pushing hard on the Russia investigation until impeachment / prosecution is imminent.
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>>136292768
Let me fix your post for you.

>Poor white trash wants to scapegoat their failures on nigs and fags with imaginary claims of special treatment.

>Republicans will slave away for 25K a year and let their union be crushed because 'muh supply side economics!'

>Republicans want to let globalist corporations ass rape them unabated by the government allowing them to basically enslave them while simultaneously patting them on the back for being such hard workers and freedom lovers!

>Reps want schools to brainwash their children and turn them into useful idiot drones and are too fucking lazy to home-school their underperforming child. The government should raise my kids the way I want them to raise my kids, but I hate the government!

Just a bunch of fucking dirty ass peasants. Drink my fucking piss serf.
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>>136293211

What IS the Better Deal? Does anyone actually know?
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>>136293279
What does "Make America great again" mean? Does anyone actually know?
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>>136292833
I honestly don't care what people on /pol/ think. You retards are beyond saving no matter how reasonable I am. This place is a cess pool of poor, stupid, scapegoating conspiracy theoritards.

>>136293206

>Boohoo you're a fag cuz I'm a poor retard!!!

Meanwhile I have 2 perfect uncircumcised blond boys and a hot wife. Stay sad kiddo.
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>>136293243
>Just a bunch of fucking dirty ass peasants. Drink my fucking piss serf.

I was thinking you may have been trolling for (you)s.
But yep, Definitely a Democrat.
Gee I wonder why people don't like Liberals?

You and you're party is a joke.
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>>136293211

Not one Democrat in the U.S. Senate voted for single-payer a week or so ago. They all voted 'no' and 'present.'
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Having a single scrap of evidence that Russia "hacked the election" (whatever the fuck that's even supposed to mean) would dramatically improve their argument.

But they don't.
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>>136292014
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>>136293414
I'm sad you spent all this time here and didn't even learn to insult properly.
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>>136286630
inb4 the investigation turns up the Dems colluded with Russia.
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>>136293279
But seriously, it is single-payer healthcare, for one. Two, it's genuine job growth, that is, accepting the reality of automation and training people so that it affects them in the best way possible.
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>>136293429
Now watch this nigga take the you're/your bait
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>>136293429
>You're a joke and so are democrats!!!

Oh stop, it hurts... ROFL.

It's pretty clear that you, and 95% of /pol/ absolutely hates their meaningless, shallow, boring lives. Bunch of spiteful scapegoating crybaby reactionaries. Boohoo :(
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>>136292681
ah yes, the "fuck the electorate" method of politics.

>>Didn't even work for the GDR
>>Somehow expected to work for the DNC
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>>136293617
>>136293654
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>>136293414
why are you even here?
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>>136293751
For the (you)s wage cuckold.
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>>136286630
(((They))) will be crashing the market shortly anon.
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>>136293437
Because it was a pure political stunt by the GOP to hurt red-state Democrats up for re-election.
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>>136286706
Why do you people continue to shill your bogus (((polls)))? dont you get it? NO ONE after this last presidential election will ever ever believe a poll again, The jews overplayed their hands (again). Normies saw thru their lies. It insulated an entire generation of people from jewish lies just by watching what the MSM has been doing over the last 2 years. Take your bullshit communist oversampled (((poll))) and shove it up your ass faggot.
pic related
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>>136293136
I'm not trying to help myself, I'm trying to help you. But you can't lead a retarded white nigger to prosperity, you are the same as any other nigger, chink or spic cog in our wheel.
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>>136292681
Faggot nigger champagne socialist. Kys and take one of your faggot friends with you pls
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>kikes
>being able to resist shekels

I'd like to see which Jewish urge wins out between civilization destroy or shekel stacking
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>>136286706
and what's the approval rates for congress and the DNC?

he ain't running against himself you know

He only needs around 43,44% approval to win in the US (the averages are going down since Reagan anyway), and I'll bet a part of the people saying they "dont approve" his government are just frustrated Congress is taking too long to do what they promised they'd do, not because they want a democrat to do exactly the opposite, that is, if you're mad Trump didn't build the wall, repeal obamacare and cut taxes yet, that doesn't mean you'll vote for amnesty, more obamacare and no tax cuts in 2018.
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>>136294061
ROFL. I don't advocate for socialism friend, you should stop using the word before it loses all meaning. You deserve all the misery in your life that you're going to have, truly.
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>>136293654
>It's pretty clear that you, and 95% of /pol/ absolutely hates their meaningless, shallow, boring lives
and yet here you are, day in and day out shilling for sheckles on an autistic Mongolian throat singing forum, who's life is more tragic really?
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>>136294022
>But you can't lead a retarded white nigger to prosperity,

>Implying I'm not extremely successful
So rich I don't even think about how much money I have. I just know I have it. And I was born poor too. You know how I did it? Working hard and going to college for a degree in an in demand industry. Didn't go for Swahili pogo dancing studies. Dem policies have no fucking clue about how economics work and caustic towards statecraft. How long can a civilization lasts that champions victimhood and vilifies success?
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>>136293279
>>136293613

A unique mix of 'moar training!' and 'moar credentialism' with a nice healthy dash of lowering expectations topped off with the mysterious spectre of the 'public option' which will promptly die and be put back in the closet.
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>>136294212
It's tragic, I can spend 30 minutes of my day here getting (you) after (you) while still taking down 16-20K a month. You should try it out, the shilling pays the mortage on my house, my IRA, and my kids' college funds.
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>>136294349

Dems don't have kids. They have pets that they treat like kids. Let's not lie to ourselves here.
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>>136294325
Wow, congratulations on your life completely dictated by determinism. You deserve an award and my admiration. Sike faggot.
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>>136290786
>pollsters are no longer trying to gauge public opinion. Instead, they are trying to influence it.
Luckily for us they are absolutely terrible at it, In the pre internet age it would have been a great tactic now not so much
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>>136286630
Finally, the panic begins to take hold.
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>>136291765
Whew lad. So in theory we could have a supermajority to the point of dems being absolutely unable to do anything whatsoever. Imagine all 25 seats going to pro MAGA candidates.
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>>136294428
The absolute STATE of left wing bantz
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>>136294449
>im sitting in my echo chamber and everything in it is correct and reality

Yeah, totally mang, the entire population is educating itself on /pol/ and facebook images. Media means nothing anymore!

I still can't reconcile the fact these Trump supporters are so interested in defending a guy who is doing absolutely nothing for them and never intended to. I thought lies upset you guys?
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>>136294187
Kek you are not happy niggerfagot or you wouldnt still be replying

Go fuck your imaginary wife you kike nigger shill. Pizzagate.
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>>136294428
>dictated by determinism.
>the doctrine that all events, including human action, are ultimately determined by causes external to the will. Some philosophers have taken determinism to imply that individual human beings have no free will and cannot be held morally responsible for their actions.

You don't know what that word means. I used my free will to get out of poverty by making good choices. Nigs and fags just blame the man as an excuse to their complacency, lack of discernment, and zero will power.
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>>136294674
Ha ha ha. I know this psychological defense mechanism!

>You're lying about everything despite having proven it multiple times on /pol/ and having multiple anons recognize you immediately whenever you post!

Projecting this hard. SAD!
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>>136293243
Typical smug elitist mentality. Keep trashing the people who actually keep civilization running while you circle jerk to kiddie porn. Eventually the time will come and your elitist cucks will be executed. But until then keep crying about being ineffectual and having absolutely no political clout whatsoever
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>>136292228
this
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>>136294523
>>136294856
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>>136292681
Typical leftist who cant help but talk in a condescending ,smug tone.

Acting like an elitist wont make people agree with you
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>>136294689
ROFL. I know exactly what it means. You don't have free-will moron. Neuroscience is starting to prove this too with fMRI technology. You were born with a disposition and genetic make-up you didn't choose and interacted in ways you didn't choose consciously and I understand the illusion of free-will is powerful, but you had no other choice in any matter, accept that as I have and suddenly your achievement means nothing. It was easy for me, as it was easy for you. Fags out earn straight white males in America by the way, and plenty of whites out here blaming spics and the government for their failings while praying to God that their skin color will guarantee me figurative GIBS and a high IQ. If you were remotely intelligent you'd know free-will doesn't exist.
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https://www.villagevoice.com/2012/10/11/1978s-the-shikses-guide-to-jewish-men-heres-the-awful-highlights/

They're being found out

They're being found out
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>>136294784
That's what you think... more likely you will find yourself slaving away or unemployed replaced by wealth generating mechanisms so grand that we'll have no reason to do anything but let you and your retarded children starve to death and no your white skin won't matter to me.
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>>136295010
>t. retard who has been listening too much to sam harris
or
>t. faggot who's unable to accept responsibility for his shitty life choices
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>>136294991
I'm not a 'lefitst' you fucking twat. As others have pointed out, I'm an 'elitist.' I come from a family worth 100s of millions. Please learn what leftist/leftism means before you completely deplete it of meaning.
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>>136295164
Yeah my shitty life choices right? See >>136293243

and dream of earning what I earn and having what I have, you pathetic Europleb.
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>>136295010
>You don't have free-will moron.
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>>136295164

>sam harris invented determism!!!

Yeah no retard, sounds like you've been listening to too much Sam Harris. This has been pretty apparent to anyone remotely philosophically inclined for 400 years now since Spinoza. Now hang yourself.
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>>136286630
thanks obama!
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Honestly if Trump supporters wanted to they could primary the Republicans get in patriots in the party, rename the Party and get a good message. If Republicans play it smart they could dominate 2018 with 58 to 60 wins in the Senate and 235 to 240 in the House. Imagine the amounts of beaners you could deport. If Trump supporters wanted they could make it into reality, but I doubt it because they've seem to be complacent.
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>>136295292
Yeah see, that's not an actual defense of free-will. Once you frame a secular argument for it's existence I will begin to take you seriously... but since you sound like you're of a completely average IQ and completely clueless about the matter I doubt I'm going to find anything that isn't copy pasted directly from a google search.

>Free-will is required for my God to work, so it must exist
>My low IQ can't overcome a simple illusion
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>>136292168
Yes, the same Democrat party that protected labor was also very anti-immigrant and very pro-segregation. That Democrat party is long dead.
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>>136293337
Yeah, he made his philosophy pretty clear on the campaign trail
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>>136286630
It's way too late for them now

They went all in with the Russia nonsense and there is no going back, nobody trusts the Democrats anymore
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>>136295550
You ever think that your learned helplessness is a product of liberal brainwashing?

Tighten that slave collar around your neck.
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>>136295586

Newsflash. You're living in a connected world where you're NEVER going to be competing again in a vacuum no matter how much you want to. The sooner you realize this the better. Maybe learn to be happy being poor or perhaps unemployed, that will serve you nicely. Otherwise you'll be spending the very moment of your suicide scapegoating spics niggers and chinks and hating how everything is the fault of some other.
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>>136292383
>your unions are being destroyed
Unions today are only PACs for Democrat politicians who support open border policies which suppress my wage and raise costs and my tax burden.
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>>136292168
>dems love implying there was a big switch without realizing they are implying their heroes FDR and JFK were really republicans
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>>136293439
CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS, Trump's Cabinet, and every person in congress with access agrees that Russia meddled into the election. Literally the only person who says otherwise is Donald Trump himself, the man who literally asked Russia to help him on live TV and has spent the first 6 months of his presidency trying to impede an investigation.

This is not about "hacking the election", a clear strawman. Russia tried to hack into voting booths and did successfully hack into at least one voter roll database. This is a fact, corroborated not only by the aforementioned groups, but reputable non-government security experts. Further, that they pushed propaganda through RT and social media is also a fact.

You literally have e-mails, made public by Trump's oldest son, explicitly saying that Russia has been supporting Trump. There's actually not any debate among rational people on whether Russia meddled into the election to help Trump win and that Trump's campaign attempted to facilitate it. The only question here is how much did they help facilitate it, what was the quid pro quo, and how much Trump himself knew (which rational people know is everything).

Fortunately, when Trump is impeached, it will not need to be because any of his most ardent (retarded) supporters suddenly saw the light.
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>>136289999
No he's at 39% approval on Rasmussen

But believing any polls is pointless, look at the Hillary poll and she has even lower approval
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>>136291724

> and more
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>>136295742
Yeah, no see, your wage is negotiated by you and your employer. If your wage picking strawberries is being lowered then maybe you should advocate for legal status for spics and an increase in the minimum wage.
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>>136295750
Fucking douches can't realize this.
>oh the south stop voting for us cause we want to disenfranchise them.
Fuck white liberals every day the white population gets more conservative and the non white population's birth rate drops a little.
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>>136293654
>Bunch of spiteful scapegoating crybaby reactionaries
>YOU FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS, WHY WON'T YOU VOTE DEMOCRAT?
Really activates the old coconut!
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>>136294022
The irony of this is hilarious

You realize that Trump voters are both higher IQ and make more money than Hillary voters

We are trying to help you
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>>136295882
>But believing any polls is pointless,
Are you retarded?
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>>136295762
Okay. Post your sources.
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>>136295662
>They went all in with the Russia nonsense and there is no going back, nobody trusts the Democrats anymore

This
And of course all the shady shit the Dems do got brought to light to not just Republicans but also the Democrat base due to fucking over Boiknee Sanduuhs
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>>136295882
Yeah, the fact Americans, including many in the Democratic party find that ugly bitch completely unpalatable isn't an endorsement of Donald Trump or how he's been as a president so far. Please stay on topic, this election was over a long time ago and instead of focusing on how badly he's failing you're still talking about Hillary in a fucking echo chamber.
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>>136295741
If the typical Democrat is you, then the Democrats are fucked this cycle.
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>>136295762
>This is not about "hacking the election", a clear strawman. Russia tried to hack into voting booths and did successfully hack into at least one voter roll database.
>You literally have e-mails, made public by Trump's oldest son, explicitly saying that Russia has been supporting Trump.


sauce on this please
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>>136294628
The media is your echo chamber, dipshit. How did that work out for you?
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>>136295947
You can't artificially increase the minimum wage and no we should continue to deport these people to hurt the Mexican population and make room for other Hispanics who are more likely to vote red.
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>>136295947
>Yeah, no see, your wage is negotiated by you and your employer.
THATS THE PROBLEM. PUBLIC UNIONS DONT HAVE A TANGIBLE EMPLOYER
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>>136296043
I've NEVER said that. Never. I don't care if you lower class niggers, spics, chinks, and whites are divided or not. It's not going to change ANYTHING for me.
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>>136294061
Whoa! Leave us poofs alone
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>>136296080
Yeah, it's better to lie to you and let you continue ensuring you become obsolete and stunting any chances your children might have completely.
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>>136286630
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>>136296140
>I don't care if you lower class niggers, spics, chinks, and whites are divided or not.
obviously you do
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>>136296076
You need to start coming back down to reality, or you will just keep losing elections

The point is it doesn't matter how low Trump's approval rating is, if the Dem's candidate has an even lower approval
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>>136296114
So you're a public employee? I'm an airline pilot so I belong to a private union.
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Haven't updated this in a while, but you get the point.
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>>136296208
>27 posts by this ID
And yet not a single cogent thought.
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>>136296056
You have to be truly braindead to think polls are accurate
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>>136296324
its just sad really
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>>136296257

Then I'm giving you the wrong impression. If I was looking to change people's minds, I wouldn't come to /pol/ to do it. For one, most people here are beyond retarded and two, there are maybe 100 users on at any given moment. I'm here for the (YOU)s
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>>136296249
how many on food stamps in 2008
how many now
a job doesnt really count if it doesnt pay enough to feed you
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>>136292228
Trump has a questionable ceiling but an incredibly high floor
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>>136296282
that worked out GREAT for TWA?
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>>136295010
>out earn
>money is the only thing that matters
>t. shekel-worshiping Democrat
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>>136295550
>free will doesn't exist because I suck at life and also because I say it doesn't exist
>I have a high IQ
>You need to believe me

You're a fucking moron with no argument. You can't get a job or a boyfriend (you're clearly gay, don't deny it) so you try to reason against your suicidal tendencies of being such a failure that you claim we're subconsciously controlled by predetermined factors.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
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>>136296324
Already stated multiple times I'm not proselytizing on POL.
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>>136296208
A skilled political party protects and serves its constituents.

>Vote Democrat and youre fucked.

That's some high level persuasion going on there.
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>>136296374
>there are maybe 100 users on at any given moment
thats just blatantly false
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>>136296374
>most people here are beyond retarded
projection is symptom of retardation
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>>136295288
$8000 bucks in the bank isn't all that impressive, kiddo.
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>>136295762
>Russia meddled into the election

This is just ridiculous because it could mean literally anything.

The point that remains clear is that Russia did not collude with the Trump campaign, and that's what the Dems have been delusionally trying to shove down people's throats.

This is why you people will keep losing, you just keep lying and lying and think it has no consequences.
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>>136296390
how many of Trump's jobs count them? Or are attacks only valid against Obama and not trump
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>>136296048
You're confusing Trump voters with Trump supporters. They are not the same people.

Trump voters: Voted Trump largely because he was the Republican candidate. Trump was not their first or even second choice. Believe Trump to be retarded but sticking with him as long as necessary for the party's sake.

Trump supporters: Actually got conned by Trump from the start, and refuse to believe or accept any negative information about him. Generally hicks even more retarded than Trump himself and edgy people on the "alt-right" who just want to laugh at liberals.
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>>136286630
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>>136292681
>I used to feel bad that people like you and your children have no future but I realize now that I shouldn't. You're exactly where you belong, with the future you deserve. No point in proselytizing here

Wow you sure convinced me! That autistic screetching at the working class just suddenly makes me want to shill for hill now
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>>136295762
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>>136296562
how many on food stamps in 2008
how many now
does a job really count if it doesnt pay enough to feed you?
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>>136296374
The irony of low IQ democrats calling people retarded
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>>136296434
You understand that TWA didn't fail because of a union and that virtually every single airline belongs to the same union. By the way, it works out great for us... I'm getting paid a LOT more than my counterparts across the world and it's virtually impossible to fire me. I have great work rules compared to my counterparts across the world as well, from rest rules, to duty limitations, to what hotels they can put me in and profit sharing that makes me more every year than the average white American male makes.
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>>136295741
You seem very upset that people are rejecting your flawed and failing ideology.
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>>136296604
im sure you have data to support your assertions
>reddit spacing
oh......
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>>136296642
so far we know that you work for twa as an airline pilot, but keep on doxxing urself m8
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>>136295762
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>>136296520
Thank god I can earn more than 98% of Americans and be retarded! Thank god I can be retarded and simply inherit a couple hundred million dollars. Phew

>>136296542

That's a 2 week direct deposit kiddo. It's like you're incapable of fucking reading a normal direct deposit because you've never had a job.
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>>136296642
>virtually every single airline belongs to the same union.
that is clearly efficient and in no way will implode
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>>136296604
So you admit that Trump voters are smarter and make more money than Hillary voters, glad we agree.
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>>136296756
>Thank god I can earn more than 98% of Americans and be retarded! Thank god I can be retarded and simply inherit a couple hundred million dollars. Phew
welcome to america? we're just that cool
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>>136296641
im a liberal in NYC thanks mate
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>>136296756
>simply inherit a couple hundred million dollars
getting easier by the minute to figure out who you are really bro
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>>136296641
What exactly is that picture supposed to prove? What does a state's average IQ have to do with mine? By the way, the blue state I grew up in is higher than 45 of the other states... so even though you thought that was some argument, despite the impossibility it was, it still wouldn't mean anything. And you have the audacity to speak of IQ?
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>>136296690
>can't argue points
>1. call someone reddit
>2. call them a shill
>repeat 1 or 2 until poster is exhausted with youe retardation
>you won, repeat
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Democrats are so fucked. They have coalition of fags, spics, nigs and blue haired fat cat ladies that all have competing interests and competing ideologies. White working class democrats were the base of the Dems are gone forever
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>>136296761
Look at pilot compensation you fucking retard. We're getting everything we want. Widebody captains over 350K a year for the first time in history.
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>>136296471
Your just an idiot. Let me tell you something. Straight white men and near Eastern and southeast/East Asian men are the highest earners in America on average. And guess how they vote? Your base is half non white and half POZZED race traitors largely single white women 30+. Your ilk are the biggest laughing stocks of the world. All this "education & intelligence" yet you guys don't have a high enough birth rate and are more likely to be in debt then the general public. I believe Stephen Miller classified you guys correctly. Also its poos on H1B1 visas who stagnate wages. Merely 50,000 Mexican nationals arrived in the US in fiscal 2017.
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>>136293925
>GOP to hurt red-state Democrats up for re-election

Right, single-payer is a loser.

Pic. related is how Colorado voters voted in November 2016 on whether to have single-payer universal health care in their state. Remember Colorado voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012, and Clinton in 2016.
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>>136295947
No, wage levels are determined by the size of the national labor supply, all prices are determined by supply and demand.
>maybe you should advocate for legal status for spics
Why would I advocate for competition?
>increase in the minimum wage
Increasing labor supply necessarily lowers wages, raising wage levels by law has inflationary effects which raise prices and erodes purchasing power.
I'll just continue advocating for immigration restrictions and protectionist economic policies.
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>>136295762

For someone who actually wrote a pretty coherent response with proper grammar, it sure is unfortunate that you wasted your time doing it through conjecture.
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>>136296951
Yeah, except you're too stupid to realize TWA hasn't existed for almost 2 decades. You'll definitely figure out who I am! By the way, I post here quite often and many anons know exactly who I am already... you're braindead.
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>>136296953
Lmao Democrats truly are low IQ morons.

Look at the largest state with the most Hillary voters, I'll give you a hint it's on the left side, politically and literally.
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>>136291724

>and more

laff
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So yelling about a total non-story that no one cares about, and that raises more questions about your own party than the other one, isn't a winning strategy? Who'da thunk it?
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>>136297031
>your an idiot
>include asians among whites as high earners despite asians blow you out of the water, nice try
>asians overwhelmingly vote democrat
>you dont have any kids!!

I have 2, how many do you have again?

>Poos ruined my life because they're as valuable as me but work for less!!

welcome to the free-market retard.
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>>136297122
Correlation is not causation. Wouldn't expect a 30K/yr retard to understand that though.
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>>136296989
>Democrats are so fucked.
how are the republicans doin lol they can't even pass a repeal vote and trump is going to bring the party down even further. 100% chance they lose the senate and the house in the next few years.
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>>136291245
Look at your graph. Unemployment spikes when Dems are presidents.
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>>136297368
Nice being an outlier. White men earn about 100,000 a year near eastern men are non Hispanic white and earn about 100,000 a year on average and East Asians southeast Asians bank at 110,000 a year on average
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>>136297368
>asians overwhelmingly vote democrat

29% of them voted for Trump and this will just keep increasing as the Democrat party goes full retard.

In fact they went a full 11% more Republican this last election.
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>>136297483
>Correlation is not causation
then stop claiming all these correlates in your other posts?
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>>136286630
>promote fake story
>people realize it's fake after more than 1 year without evidence
>people contrast this to hillary who actually sold our nuclear materials to russia and decide it's a nothing burger
>oy vey
lol they don't get it
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>>136297368
>everyone but me is retarded and poor
>t. elitist democrat
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>>136297518
Except it doesn't... it goes down during Obama, and down during Clinton and up during both Bushes. When the current bubble bursts on Trump it's going to be absolutely fucking glorious.
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>>136297483
>I'm a low IQ Democrat
>it's all just a coincidence

Truly braindead
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>>136286706
>trump has a 1% chance of winning the republican nomination
>trump has a 1% chance of winning the presidency
>why won't you believe our polls?
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>>136297629
The bubble can't burst cause there is no bubble they rose interest rates too fast.
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>>136297585
Yes, 71% is overwhelming. Great rebuttal? Thanks for confirming my post. Are you even trying retard?
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>>136297518
yes if you ignore the calamatous depression that happened under W Bush in 2007, which Obama saved us from whether you like it or not. At the very least, he didn't prolong it or make it worse.
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>>136297629
>38 posts by this id
ive watched someone shill 100 posts once, think you can match with your retarded drivel?
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>>136297716
You might want to actually read my post
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>>136297629
Trump will raise rates to 7% when he appoints the first non-Jewish FED chief in decades and restore savings accounts and bonds as sound investments.
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>>136297716
>trumps share of non white voters doubles as a % compared to Romney's total.
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>>136296641
>South is full of double-digit IQ

Can't make this shit up desu
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>>136296347
You have to be braindead to think you can invalidate polling and statistics as a whole due to inaccurate predictions. Do you not trust the weatherman either? You do realize they're using the same fucking math, you fucking idiot?

A presidential election, where you're generating models to forecast the results of an election decided by a few percentage points, is difficult and not an exact science. That's why you had so many models all over the place, even among those that said Hillary would win. On the other hand, simply trying to find representative sample of people and asking them if they approve or disapprove of the president's job so far is significantly less difficult, and being a few percentage points off from the true value is significantly less important. 39% or 37% is a shit approval rating, and by averaging out the dozens of polls, you get closer to the true value.
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>>136297585
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>>136297855
here's why
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>>136297855
30% - 40% black states.
>high iq neo liberal city person doesn't recognize his own base
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>>136297644
Let's say my IQ was low (even though it's not). What does that say about you? What does it say that I make 190K a year doing what I love and have two great kids and a beautiful wife and you're stuck on /pol/ whining that chinks, poos and spics are taking your job and the government is destroying your life? Let me guess, your genius level IQ is simply underappreciated in the world of today and the Jews are making sure to hold you down? You're no better than a nigger who claims that whites are holding him do win. Absolutely pathetic and SAD!
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>>136291902

If you think Trump is a Republican you're severely retarded.
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>>136295762
>be libshit
>make outrageous claims with no backing
>get asked for sources/proof
>never reply
>continue shilling
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>>136297941
watch him reply with a typical 'i was only pretending to be retarded' response after getting anally destroyed
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>>136297918
>>136297941
>The South is a nigger/spic colony

Yeah we all know this but that doesn't exactly help your case senpai

I blame the warm weather, shitskins can't survive in the cold since that's a white people climate, so they all move down south with dey cozzinz
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>>136291902
Look at me. I'm the middle class defender now.
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Imagine being so autistic that you larp for 40+ posts like a ranting schizo. What a sad state of existence.
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>>136292071
That's really rich coming from a democrat.
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>>136298073
shhh he's just enlightening the lurkers about how shills operate, and also about how all liberal arguments without exception are based on lies, cherry picking, and guiltshame
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>>136297892
Lol you are so delusional

Look at the actual results vs. what the polls predicted

Here is an egregious example, they had Kentucky off by 15 points, way way outside the margin of error.

I could post examples like this all day.

Either pollsters are incompetent or they are deliberately creating fake results.
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>>136297504

Not a chance Republicans do as poorly under Trump as Democrats actually did do under Obama.

I mean, my God, they had like 60 seats in the Senate and a massive majority in the House after the 2008 election, and it just got fucking wiped out in 2010 and again in 2014.
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>>136297837
Means nothing other than Hillary Clinton was the absolute worst possible candidate to push, and believe me she was pushed. If it was Biden, he absolutely destroys Donald Trump. It's a sad reflection of American society, that you're so obsessed with your reality TV star car salesman conman you'll overlook the fact he's an emotionally stunted narcissist crybaby. He's going to make your life better, tell me all about it in 4 years idiot.
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>>136286630
>Democrats fear no one cares about Russia
Nobody does. Just because people are being loud doesn't mean everyone cares.
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>>136298104
>that doesn't exactly help your case
it exactly helps my case because texas
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>>136297629
Your also the reason I'm anti capitalist. The bourgeoisie and Jews fear the white working man. Also your an outlier your white peers have a birth rate of 1.2 and the only non white sub group that is growing quickly that'll make a difference guess what... are a swing demographic. White conservatives/christians have a birth rate of 2.4. Even white republicans have a birth rate of 2.1. Deflect this.
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>>136298039
Lol whatever you say buddy, I can make up all kinds of shit on the internet too

The point is you're a low IQ democrat who will just continue to lose election after election while I laugh in your face.
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>41+ posts
>talks about obsession
AHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>136298206
Whoa, people lied about not supporting Donald Trump? That's never happened in polling. What reason do they have to lie about his terrible performance thus far? There is none. Only the most retarded of the retarded are still defending him.
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>>136298231
You owe a lot of that to the influx of white people in the tech industry fleeing liberal shitholes, but just like the red state/blue state thing, you're on the brink due to all your spics. It could go either way depending on how that shakes out in the future.
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>>136298219
>Trump was actually racist
>Hillary sucks it's not that Trump was cut & dry regardless of character which is his biggest hinderence.
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>>136297629
>No image proof
>No source link
>Just unsubstantiated claims and insults
ITS FUCKING OBAMA LEAF
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>>136292082
Let's try something else. Let's go with liberals and conservatives and shills as the term for describing politicians

Which one of these three has defended the working class?

Which one of these three has defended slavery?
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>>136298397
If there was no 3rd party on the ballot in Texas trump would've won by the same Margin as Romney.
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>>136298286
Yeah, save yourself the pain and tell yourself that it's all made up. Nobody in the world, lest of all a Democrat is more intelligent, worth more and happier than the misery you're suffering through. LOL
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>>136298555

trips doesn't lie.
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>>136286630
No one cares about fake news from democrats except shitlib democrats.
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You know why stock prices go up?

The US$ is in free fall, that's why.
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>>136295762
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>43+ posts of autism
>tells others to keep lying to themselves
Wew, I wonder who the mentally ill person could be?
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>>136298555
I have a good life desu senpai, and I don't need to make up shit on the internet.

You're just very insecure, but that goes without saying.
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>>136298465
No, here's the flag. Although he's amusing... not as quality as me though.
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>>136298538
Regardless, there is. Something needs to be done because at the moment, Texas is dangerously close to swing state status.
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>>136293243
>imaginary claims of special treatment

I didn't realize affirmative action was imaginary.
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>>136298674
Way more than 43 yous, nice try not giving me another one but I'm going to count it anyway ;)
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>>136296076
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

seems he's doing an absolutely acceptable job of increasing available jobs thus far.
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>>136298714
If anyone should complain about affirmative action it's Asians. They let all these retarded cave ape white men into schools with lower SAT scores!
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>>136296550
Russia meddled into the election encompasses THREE main actions:

1) Hacking and attempting hack of electronic voter booths and voter roll databases.

2) Propaganda via social media and Russia Today. This includes bots, paid shilling, and generating fake news.

3) Asserting influence over the Trump campaign, attempted (and almost certain) collusion.

To say that "it is clear Russida did not collude with the Trump campaign," when you have correspondence between the highest levels of the Trump campaign and surrogates of the Russian government explicitly setting up a meeting to collude, is to deny reality itself.
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>y-yeah, the (you)s help my pain
Sure buddy
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Don't reply to shills
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>>136286630
I'm glad people are making their own decisions rather than just regurgitating the crap the media spews out 24/7.
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>>136298878
Address this.>>136298271
>>136298538
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>>136298879
It's complete bullshit, now you're just making stuff up again.

I'm telling you that lying has consequences, but Democrats do not seem to understand the concept of TRUST.

People do not trust the Democrat party anymore and that is why you will keep losing.
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>>136298879
1) No proof at all exists that any machine was hacked or any vote altered. FALSE.

2) Can you prove that anyone changed their vote because of this? Did Pro-Clinton fake news change any votes?

3) Did Saudia Arabia assert influence over the Clinton campaign? Why or why not?

Whole thing is completely made up because Clinton lost and was a horrible candidate. If she won, you wouldn't care or hear about this whatsoever which should tell you about all the nothing this burger is.
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>>136298397
a lot of those spics are going home anon
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>>136286658

thanks
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>>136299153
We'll see. I hope that is the case.
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>>136286630

they're now part of a deal with AT&T so they have to fix their shit FAST. it will literally be overnight
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>>136299031
Nobody fears the white working man. Maybe at one point they did, but it's clear that if a reality TV star billionaire can convince you that he should be president and has your best interest at heart that you will never rise to the occasion to overcome your place in capitalist society. The Republican party is under Jew/Bourgeois control anyway... I mean, what difference does it make if their base propagates? I
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>>136296067
https://mobile.twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166/photo/1
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>>136299100
checked

their only defense is "don't excuse trump by talking about clinton" but the distinction is that clinton did all the shit they are falsely accusing trump of doing

typical projection
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>48 posts by this ID

I hope you are being paid and not just a massive faggot
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>>136299223
>200 miles of actual wall already built since june
>deportations up enormously
>influx across border down enormously
>dreamers being captured and deported in one hour, by the time their lawyers hear about it they're already back in their home countries
trump has demonstrated that he's serious over and over again
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>>136286706
trump 3 terms confirmed
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>>136299263
Lol AIPAC can't even lobby and the AGRI business is under duress from Trumps crack down on immigration. Filthy neo liberal capitalist scum. You also haven't heard of Tory Socialism have you?
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>>136297892
Not only do the lying press rig polls, but there's Shy Tory effect which statisticians have known about for decades.

Please educate yourself before posting.
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>>136286658

The true vikang, ty
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>>136299482
Keep fantasizing about your great overthrow. That hope might be what keeps you going on in this life.
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>>136299612
Ok.
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>>136298206
No, Yo are conflating 2 fucking different things. You do realize there have only been 57 presidential elections and election polling is less than a century old? You do realize that they do not just call people and say "are you voting for Trump or Hillary?" and end it at that? You do realize that this election was very different than even recent elections? Predictive polling on the electoral college requires complex models, where you make assumptions and simplifications that may or may not be true and may or may not be too simple. SIMPLY ASKING PEOPLE IF THEY APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF THE PRESIDENTS JOB DOES NOT REQUIRE COMPLEX MODELS. It's a simple as that. I'm not going to explain it to you any further because you're clearly an idiot if you can't get it.
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The Republicans are 22 state legislature seats and 8 Senators away from being able to amend the Constitution.
Granted it has to be the right states but that is how bad things are for the Dems.

Repeal the 17th and the Republicans will have a 60+ Senate majority for the foreseeable future.
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>>136290786
>>136290372
If you try to look up "Who gets polled for presidential approval ratings?" It merely gives you the end result, and not the data behind how they get their numbers. It's pretty awful obfuscation for what should be an easy topic to answer.
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>>136299612
>so much projection
is it any wonder when all of a dems playbook for political attacks and arguments is plagiarized from the right?
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>>136297050
Try harder. He's saying that the GOP forced the corporate democrats in those states to really show their stance on Single-payer to the constituents, That they would never actually support it because their corporate donors don't want them to.
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>>136299972
What am I projecting there? That I'm not scared of an overthrow by asking him to keep hoping for an overthrow? Do you know how to use that word correctly? Sure doesn't look like it.
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>>136299612
Address birth rates faggot>>136298271
>>136299612
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The Russia hacking was the Podesta emails which was because the retard fell for a phishing email. /pol/ literally hacked into his twitter at one point around the same day.

The other thing the "online propaganda" is fucking memes. Boomer retards in the government don't understand how the internet works so they called shit like /r/the_donald, infowars, 4chan, alt-right twitter accounts Russian internet trolls. That's what it all is.

Go suck more circumcised liberal cock you bluepill lil faggot.
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>>136297483
>correlation isn't causation
sometimes i wonder
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>>136286630
BIGLY BIG LEAGUE
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>>136292681
Hey at least he'll be having children unlike you and the rest of the liberals :^)
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>>136300073
Birth rates mean nothing. I mean what... you're going to ostensibly breed more working class retard children to overthrow the power elite? You're talking about kids that are getting dumber and dumber in families getting poorer and poorer. It all means nothing...
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>>136299872
Lol you are so upset that the polls are clearly wrong?

Just look at the data, you don't need all those rationalizations.

Here's another hilarious one, Iowa off by 7 points, which is twice the margin of error.

It was supposed to be a battleground state, haha.

Remember all those Demotards saying Texas will go blue? You people are so stupid.
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>>136300332
I have 2 children moron. I've been over this. Several times in fact.
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>>136300373
But most are middle class not working class. Poor whites voted blue till like this election cycle. The only people who are getting poorer are blacks and it's a shame non whites are so privileged. Also demographics are destiny man white liberals are literally dying off.
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>>136300465
I'm sure you love your cats very much.
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>>136300563
Yeah, as demonstrated by the white vote for each candidate based on age group right? Oh wait...

White people are dying off too... doesn't matter to me.
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>>136295010
>Genetic disposition is a refutation of free will.
Depends on how you define free will.

Since the majority of philosophers and psychologists (and yes, theologians) would argue that free will is simply action through volition without compulsion through force or fate, I would argue that no, genetic disposition is not an argument against free will, as it only disposes people towards a choice but does not guarantee it.

Hell, free will can arguably be considered to exist even in a fatalist view, as even if one believes that everything that will happen will happen, not to mention has happened at a future point in time, this is in no way an argument that those actions don't occur due to something that resembles free will.

Indeed, you could even argue that those very same genetic elements and dispositions that you use as an argument against free will may very well themselves be considered the components by which free will operate, as they dispose people towards certain acts of volition.

That is to say, determinism could be argued to not be something that disproves free will, but acts merely as a mechanism by which free will can occur.

Ah, but I'm sorry, rudimentary philosophy may be several light years above your head, so I'll put it in terms that may be a bit closer to your level of understanding:

You have no argument.

Go jump off a cliff.

>>136295550
>Free will is only used as an argument for God.
>God cannot exist without the premise of free will.
>t. Dipshit who doesn't realise that Christianity is more fatalist than he is, and had a hand to play in early determinist philosophy.
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>>136293577
Confirmed.
Tick tock, shills :)
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>>136291245
trump actually mentioned the unemployment stats are artificially low even as they're getting lower under his presidency. Just check out his last rally.
I know you won't
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>>136300373
I mean seriously you think Appalachia were the average IQ for a white American is still over 100 is all of trump's base??? Literally 10,000,000 people I get that there birth rates are slightly higher they have a lower median age and they don't earn as much as whites who live in say Portland, but 72,000 a year or a good union job is not a bad thing especially if it's a private union.
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>>136286630
Chuck Shumer and the Dems trying to steal Trump's platform.

They've copied his platform verbatim in an attempt to dupe people who voted for him in to voting for Democrats instead. It's shameless plagiarism and the fact that they are doing it instead of just wholesale pushing Russia shows how terrified the Democrats are. They have no message, no ideas of their own. Labeling their opponents as bigoted racists or the new label of Russian colluder is not working. They need an actual plan for America now, but they do not have one.

This needs to be pointed out to normies and likely Trump voters even that the Democrats are trying to pull a fast one on them. If they didn't believe in these positions before Trump, they certainly don't believe in them after. They're attempting a bait and switch.
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>>136295972
this.
Black birth rate is 1.88
White birth rate is 1.81
Hispanic birth rate has fallen to 1.99 from 2.4 in 2000
I believe that's according to a survey done by the pew research in 2015
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>>136292228
He cant really afford to lose anyone though. He won that election by the skin of his teeth. He needs to win even more voters to assure a 2020 victory.
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>>136300563
>Also demographics are destiny man white liberals are literally dying off.

Truth. It's funny that libtards talk about demographics so much, when they are literally killing themselves off.

Looks like there's gonna be no more liberal voters soon because they don't have any kids.
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>>136300707
Except a fucking fMRI can predict a decision one way or the other is being made seconds before a person is consciously aware they made a decision. So no, people don't make choices, even if they're completely free from compulsion... e.g. a decision that has absolutely 0 implications.
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>>136286630

They already alienated the logical parts of their base with this tactic a few months ago.

All they have left is frontal lobe damaged virtue signalers.
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>>136300892
> every child born to what is considered conservative today will be conservative in 20 years

holy shit are you actually drooling?!
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>>136300699
No the white population increases by 400,000 a year. Anyway whites between 18 - 24 and specifically gen Z 18 - 21 voted overwhelmingly for trump. The only holdouts were whites between 25 - 34 and white women 45+.
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>>136299100
I did not say that voting machines were hacked by Russia. I said they attempted. They most certainly did hack into VOTER ROLLS, however.

We actually don't know if they were successful at changing anything on Nov 8 because there hasn't been any real audit of the systems. Guess what? At a hack-a-thon last week you had people hacking state voter machines in minutes. What do you think the Russian government is capable of doing? This is the same Russian government that sent a letter to Texas asking if they could "spectate" their voting process.

Did [action] help [candidate who didn't win]? Did [candidate who didn't win] collude with [country]? I DON'T KNOW AND DON'T CARE. IT'S COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. If when confronted the likely treasonous criminality of the PRESIDENT, which would mean the highest office in the country is compromised, the best you can do is try to deflect to someone else, you've already exposed how much your bias clouds your thoughts. You are the kind of person, and this is the kind of thinking, that causes authoritarian dictatorships to rise and maintain power. You do realize that the "whataboutism" you are engaging in was a tool perfected by Soviet Russia?
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>>136300842
The white birth rate right now is 1.9 Hispanics are at 2.0 right now down from fucking THREE KIDS PER WOMAN 15 - 35 in 2000.
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>>136300995
Sorry the truth hurts, you are literally being wiped out by your own ideology
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>>136301323
>casually linking intelligence to genetics

NO! BAD GOYIM!
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>>136300911
>A brain scanner can read a thought in a person's mind before it's put into legible terms.
>This is a form of prediction.
This isn't a case of the fMRI being able to predict a persons decisions.

This is an fMRI reading a decision AFTER it has been made.

Most humans give off those brainwaves before understanding what they mean because those thoughts have been created before they have been made legible.

This isn't something that is a surprise to anyone because the theory for this has existed for quite some time and was invented outside the realm of neuroscience.

After all, subconscious or instinctive thought is the basis for the concept of intuition.

Unfortunately, successfully proving the existence of intuition is not comparable to disproving the existence of free will.
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>>136299574
Knowing about the existence of an effect does not mean you expect the effect or the degree to which it occurs. Elections are built on models with assumptions that may or not be true and simplifications that may or may not be too simple. You have to adjust for variables like the "shy voter" and there is not some hard and fast rule. You also have a problem where statisticians don't like being outliers so they'll often adjust their models to fit what they believe to be everyone else is at. Again, this is NOT A PROBLEM FOR JOB APPROVAL POLLS.

Look here, we both know that if Hillary lost you would not be going on about how flawed polls are, despite the fact that they would have been the same polls and just as flawed. Nate Silver was saying Trump had about a 33% chance, which was completely reasonable considering the margin he did win at.
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>>136297682
There's no way we don't go into a recession either during trumps first term or second. If it's by the second it'd be the largest expansion period ever.

Only question is will it be a disaster or a run of the mil recession.
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>>136301323
shut it down
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>>136291902
Yeah they support cheap labor from Mexico and Guatemala that has destroyed the American Middle class.
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>>136301811
>polls are inaccurate
>but this poll is right!

Libtard delusions in full effect

If we're gonna talk about approval polls, might as well throw this out there
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>>136294022
Why do Democrats worship money so much? Do you think money makes people happy? If so, why are """college educated""" liberals so miserable?

grats on swallowing the jew brainwashing goy, remember to take out some more debt
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>>136302057
>It rained today even though the weather man said there was only a 33% chance of rain
>I'll never trust the weatherman again.
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>>136292250
just swell of course
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>>136301175
>Did [action] help [candidate who didn't win]? Did [candidate who didn't win] collude with [country]? I DON'T KNOW AND DON'T CARE. IT'S COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT

You don't seem to understand that Trump was also a presidential candidate, before he became President. The reason the other anon deflected to Clinton isn't for lack of other arguments (one needs only read the rest of the thread to see the other arguments) because Democrats don't care about arguments or opinions they don't like, the point of the deflection to Clinton was to show to you your own hypocrisy.

Clinton literally did all the same things Trump did, only with Saudi Arabia instead of Russia. You say that you don't give a shit about candidates doing this or that as part of your own deflection of criticism against Clinton. But you forget that Trump himself was a candidate before becoming president. Thus by your own logic, you have no leg to stand on.
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>>136301175
Yeah reread what you just typed and try to say you're own bias doesn't cloud your thinking process. Hillary has done real war crimes, taken money from organizations that violate human rights, and used CGI as a pay to play model for foreign powers to influence US foreign policy. If the opposite happened in the election, you would have swept those legitimate concerns about corruption under the rug as long as your tribe won. THAT is the kind of thinking that causes dictatorships to rise and maintain power.
People who use whataboutism unironically are hypocrites.
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>>136300911
>>136301059
Address!!!
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>>136301811
>Look here, we both know that if Hillary lost you would not be going on about how flawed polls are, despite the fact that they would have been the same polls and just as flawed.
Didnt you literally just say "Did [action] help [candidate who didn't win]? Did [candidate who didn't win] collude with [country]? I DON'T KNOW AND DON'T CARE. IT'S COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT." Why can't you live up to your own rulebook?
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>>136300995

>Implying people do not become more conservative with wisdom and age
Liberals are of two camps; ideal-driven, largely young people, and selfish; largely boomers, minorities, any pet demographic led by a tether of promises of hand-outs or further political power, etc.

As a young freshly-brainwashed college student has to interact with the real world (see: not effete collegiate cloisters of academics who have never had a job), he becomes more conservative by nature.

watching his check be siphoned by an inept government that turns around and gives away that money to people who do nothing has a way of quickly converting people to heavily conservative.

Watching shitty criminals infest neighborhoods nearby, lowering the property value of your hard-earned and mortgaged home, and endanger your young family... has a way of converting people to 'conservatives'.

The only people who remain liberal are those who are safely cloistered away in ivory towers of disconnected wealth, never working actual jobs, never interacting with their beloved pet minorities, and never having to earn a thing.
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>>136302780
boomers and minorities are not typically liberal although many do vote democrat (minorities, not so much boomers)
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>>136302968
White boomers are split and yes white female boomers are liberal.
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LARPing faggot Dem shills are pathetic. LMAO at his 100 millions. Get real LARPing bitch.
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>>136302780
Your average Joe is pretty right-wing, that's for sure.
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>>136303077
>white female boomers are liberal.

and yet they voted for Trump?
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>>136303153
51%. White women between 18 - 21 voted for trump at a higher %
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>>136302403
>comparing weather to polls
wew lad
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>>136297031
I remember seeing somewhere the conservative birth rate in the us is 2.1 (minimum for growth) and liberals is 1.3 (lower than Japan)
Like muzzies in the UK and Africans in France, conservatives will simply out breed liberals here. hence why every generation whites are significantly more conservative.
Also fun to note is how Hispanics get marginally less Democrat with each generation. keep on pushing that brown meme, though, democrats.
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