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Bridal Store Refuses to Sell Wedding Dresses to Lesbians

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The owner of a Pennsylvania bridal shop recently claimed that her faith precluded her from selling a dress to a same-sex couple.

Shannon Kennedy and Julie Ann Samanas said the incident happened July 8 at W.W. Bridal Boutique in Bloomsburg, about two-and-a-half hours north of Philadelphia. The West Pittston couple visited the shop in search of a dress for Samanas for the couple’s March 2018 wedding.

“We filled out the form that said ‘Bride’s name,’ ‘Budget’ and then where it said ‘Groom,’ we crossed it out and wrote ‘Bride’ and put Shannon’s name down,” Samanas explained.

The couple, who were accompanied by Samanas’ sister, handed one of the two women who was working the form and, after reviewing it, she inquired if the dress was for a same-sex wedding.

“She said, ‘I don’t know if you’ve heard, but we’re Christian and we don’t believe in that; our faith doesn’t let us believe in that,’” Kennedy recalled.

The women said they didn’t challenge the staff member and exited.

“I think we were kind of in shock,” Kennedy said. “We all looked at each other and went, ‘Oo-k’ and walked out. It was unexpected. Afterwards, you think of everything you should have said.”

W.W. Bridal Boutique did not respond to a request for comment.

The women posted about the incident on Facebook and tagged the store. In a July 11 post that has since been deleted, the store posted: ”The owners of W.W. Bridal Boutique reserve the rights afforded to them by the First Amendment of the Constitution to live out our lives according to our faith. ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.’ We will continue to serve our customers based on the tenets of our faith.”

Kenney and Samanas said they believe the operators of the store’s Facebook page have blocked them both.

http://www.epgn.com/news/local/12295-lesbian-couple-turned-away-from-pa-bridal-shop
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>>136258240
>http://www.epgn.com/news/local/12295-lesbian-couple-turned-away-from-pa-bridal-shop
http://archive.is/pxvMT

also >>136256796
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Why should I care? Saged
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>>136258240
bump
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>>136258240
Post ur face when conservative christians that dont need government gibs to pay for their weddings start to get their wives dresses here
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This shop deserves our support.
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>>136259449
Why?
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>>136258240
Oh, no! How dare they practice freedom of religion! How dare they!
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>>136259865
Because those faggots are going to parade this around as some kind of attack on them personally when instead they can just go to another fucking bridal store. It's fucking capitalism
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The dykes probably planned to get turned down from the start
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Why do fags even want to participate in a ritual that has its roots in a religion that wants them killed? God I fucking hate gay people they're so annoying.
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>>136260781
Marriage existed prior to Christianity. It exists in a secular context whether you approve or not.
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>>136260855
tell me the purpose of marriage.
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>>136260855
Gays were never permitted to be married you mentally ill retard. Fucking kill yourself.
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>>136258240
I would of referred them to a Muslim place if business, that would eagerly help them with their wedding dreams.
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Not a problem.

There is an opportunity cost to denying service. If it is so detrimental, other businesses will benefit from the sale + positive press coming from providing service instead.
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>>136260855
Please, do go on about your justification for homosexual marriage.
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>>136261068
I'm going to call them and thank them. Offer any support they need.
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Why are these people always such narcissists crying for attention? There's probably 20 other ""progressive"" stores they can get a dress from instead. I bet they wouldn't raise a stink if a Muslim owned catering company declined to make a ham dish for their reception.
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I want that syrup bottle. That would be a fun thing to own.
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>>136261050
A legal document conferring rights to two people.
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>>136261353
Professional victim mentality.
This is why I am just sitting back and laughing if we let Muslims take over.
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>>136258240

>I should be allowed to bully people into providing goods or services

Just go across town to another bridal store. I actually used to support gay marriage before faggots started doing this. Now I wouldn't get upset if ISIS style squads started throwing you people off roofs live they do in the Middle East.
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>>136261412
I looked it up. It's just a statue, not a syrup bottle at all. I'm sad now.
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>>136259865
Because you're an AIDS-riddled faggot who deserves to be tossed in the bog.
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>>136258240
>We’re Christian and we don’t believe in that; our faith doesn’t let us believe in that.

> 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
>Mark 10:6-9

They must not know what a Christian is.
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desu this all is a proper way of going about free speach.

The shop has the right to deny service due to faith
The lesbians have the right to make a public complaint

I don't see the problem here at all.
Also muh free market, a dress store probably contacted them with a discount offer
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>>136261963
What exactly was your statement here?
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>>136261494
The Muslim bridal shops would probably bludgeon them behind the shop instead of nicely declining their patronage.
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wtf why does this conversation have to be framed within the 1st amendment. Do I have to pretend to be religious if I don't want to sell things to fags?
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>>136262139
Oh darn, I'm stupid. I thought the couple said that not the shop owners. Reading comprehension problems here.
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>>136262319
Not technically, but most people don't quite remember that whole Freedom of Association part of the First Amendment.

>>136262420
It's okay, we all make mistakes, friend.
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>>136261454
Then get a civil union, you AIDS-riddled faggot. Marriage is between a man and a woman, and includes tax laws meant for raising functional children. Now please kill yourself.
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>>136260731
They'll end up with free dresses from a commie-run store. Brilliant scheme on their end.
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>>136262632
Child credits are rendered separately from marriage in American tax law.
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>>136262319
Technically no. First amendment includes freedom of association, which implicitly ALSO includes freedom of disassociation, meaning you're not supposed to be forced to associate with people you don't want to.

The civil rights act is also unconstitutional, btw, for this reason
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>>136261292
Yes do go on
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>>136260731
>The dykes probably planned to get turned down from the start
There's a bridal shop in Pittston (Gerri Bridal Shop - Pittston, Pennsylvania), but no, they had to drive out of their way to get some press and start a row.
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>>136263157
Where does the first amendment indicate freedom to discriminate?
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>>136259865
see
>>136261680
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>>136258240
all the syrup in the arm is going to be hard to get out.
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>>136263489
You might have a point if you were arguing about access to utilities or life-sustaining services. As it stands you aren't so you don't have a point.
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>>136261905
>discord
>gay
>associated with /pol/

This discord is literally the antithesis of everything /pol/ stands for. If you go on this discord you dont belong here
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>>136258240
Not that i think any store has any obligation to serve gays if they hold strong religious beliefs, but who the fuck is stupid enough to pull this shit after that one bakery got sued for doing the same thing? If not sued, they're certainly going to see a business decline once word gets around.
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>>136261412
Mrs. Butterworth is THICC
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>>136263667
Well if we allow people to say no gays in a bridal store who is to say no gays in a small town with one supermarket is wrong?
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>>136263730
Convictions are worth more than money to them, obviously.
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>>136258240
>you will never impregnate a thicc qt 3.14 syrup bottle
why even live?
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>>136263820
I already pointed out why. You don't need a bridal store to get married.
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>>136263836
Convictions aren't going to pay the bills.
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>>136261905
Kys faggot..
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A proper Christian would sell them the dress, then pray intently that they avoid the fires of hell!
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>>136263897
I mean I think it is a dickish move to not allow people to buy wedding dresses but yes, not a huge hassle. That said, these sorts of people are liable to also refuse service to gays in places where it matters more like medical establishments and places that sell food.

When gays can refuse to serve Christians (we cannot FEDERALLY due to the Civil Rights Act) arguments about freedom to discriminate make more sense. Until then this is religious people abusing an old book to harm others.
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>>136264058
I mean it says not to be gay but where does it say not to sell stuff to gay people in the bible?
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>>136264127
It's hard to sell anything to anyone after you've put that person to death.

You ought to stop poking this particular bear.
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Gays were never satisfied after forcing the government to acknowledge theur union, now theyre pushing tranny acceptance and softening pedophilia. You know that slippery slope thing you guys say doesnt exist.
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>>136263820
If a small town would ban you why do you want to live there so much?
Maybe they should take the hint.
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>>136264084
Marriage is a religious issue from the get-go, however. And you're trying to segue into points I already covered.

As for gays refusing Christians it's just as valid. However, if you force Christians into serving gays it only makes sense the reverse is true.

>Until then this is religious people abusing an old book to harm others.
Citation needed.
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>>136264127
It doesn't say anything about harming or not selling things to gay people. Just that they are sinners and we pray for sinners.
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>>136263730
>just bend over and let them win
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>>136264084
>When gays can refuse to serve Christians (we cannot FEDERALLY due to the Civil Rights Act) arguments about freedom to discriminate make more sense
Reverse the civil rights act then you retard. I'm sure they'd be perfectly happy not being served by a fag if it meant they didn't have to serve fags.
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>>136264286
Marriage licenses are obtained from a civil court.

Claiming that being religious gives you special privileges to discriminate when Christians are specifically (religious) a protected class makes gays second class citizens for factors beyond our control.

>>136264315
Ok great everyone is a sinner. Pray for us, that's fine but where does it say not to do business with gays?
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>>136264454
Ok you let me know when that has happened.
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>>136263998
I never said that. But this is their decision to make, and is what they have chosen.
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>>136264500
Of course it won't happen, you faggots won't let it happen.
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>>136264084
>like medical establishments and places that sell food.

If it's a private company or private hospital, they should be able to serve whoever they please. Though I think there are laws regarding medical services for emergency patients.
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>>136264480
It's not special privileges. It's basic rights. That's why they felt compelled to remind you about the first amendment.

Look, I'm an atheist. But your argument is complete shit. And harping on religion just makes it worse.

And if you can get a marriage license from a civil court then you don't need a bridal store.
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>>136264480
this time without the meme answer, what is the purpose of marriage.
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>>136263489
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association#United_States_Constitution
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>>136264545
Christians will never let it happen. They love being protected by a law that they can abuse to fuck over other people not covered by it. If I refuse to sell a wedding dress because I don't serve Christians I can be fined and my store shut down.
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>>136264480
As I said, it doesn't say not to do business with gays. It does say to put them to death, however.
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>>136264614
Where does the first amendment grant a right to discriminate in offering services to the public?
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>>136264647
>the text of the First Amendment does not make specific mention of a right to association

really made me think
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>>136264706
see: >>136264647
They already pointed out they work under religious reasons. You're just going to have to accept it.
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>>136264692
>It does say to put them to death, however.
I need a quote.
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>>136264692
It also says not to mix milk and meat or wear multiple fabrics.
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>>136264549
>Though I think there are laws regarding medical services for emergency patients.
Pretty sure NY has jewish only paramedics.
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>>136264759
>I don't know how US law works

At least we won't have to put up with you for too much longer.
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>>136264769
Leviticus 20:13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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>>136264706
Where does it say you need to supply someone a service if they ask for it?
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>>136264759
>just straight up ignore the Supreme Court ruling which was the literal next sentence
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>>136264824
Ok well if you have this freedom to discriminate, euphemistically titled "association", why can I not refuse to serve Christian customers at my bridal store?
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Let the lezzers get married in overalls.
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>>136264834
So lesbians are fine?
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>>136264877
It doesn't. The concept of having a business open to the public means you agree to serve the general public unless a customer is disruptive.
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>>136264898
Go ahead. No one cares.
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>>136264673
>They love being protected by a law
They aren't protected at all.
You faggots, niggers and fucking cat ladies are the reason it'll never go away.
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>>136264884
I don't think that meant that people have a freedom to discriminate which is the euphemistic intent of "freedom of association".
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>>136259449
Yeah, everyone on /pol/ should buy the dresses for their future wife there!

...

...
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>>136264956
I cannot. That would violate the Civil Rights Act federally.
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>>136264127
Providing a service to a fag wedding implies endorsement

Consider this: I theologically believe it is wrong to drink alcohol, so I do not even go to bars so endorsement of alcohol consumption can't be implied
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>>136264898
Because of the civil rights act, which I already said is unconstitutional. You're using circular logic.
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>>136264958
Christians are protected in their religious beliefs by the Civil Rights Act.
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>>136264995
Then you should read the ruling.

>>136265014
That's not a law Christians want. That's a law you and your kind pushed through.
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>>136264480
Wrong. Its not their religion that gives them authority to discriminate.

They are the owners of the business and the gay couple were on private property - the owners of the business can do as they damn well please and sell to whoever they want to.

The LGBT 'community' are the biggest hypocrits going. You EXPECT everyone to tolerate you and your beliefs / lifestyle choices, but when another person wishes their beliefs / lifestyle to be respected, you throw a hissy fit and start demanding shit.

Fuck off already.
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>>136264953
>It doesn't.
There we go then, fuck off. They don't need to supply you.

>The concept of having a business open to the public means you agree to serve the general public unless a customer is disruptive.
Yeah that's a load of shit.
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>>136264127
>Mark 9:42 - Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea.

Christians are not to abet or encourage others to perform sinful acts.
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>>136265023
How does it imply endorsement?

If I bake a cake for the Church of Scientology as a bakery open to the public, does that mean I endorse Scientology personally?
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>>136262826
Homos can't have kids so that's irrelevant.
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>>136265038
If it unconstitutional, why have courts never made such a finding?
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>>136265095
The business is open to the public, therefore they have to serve the public.
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>>136265146
>If I bake a cake for the Church of Scientology as a bakery open to the public, does that mean I endorse Scientology personally?
That's how endorsements work, yeah. This is equivalent to demanding a Muslim meat worker prepare pork. You can't do that. Same thing.
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>>136265047
Oh really? So that's why Christians are discriminated everywhere without backlash then?
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>>136265150
Surrogacy and adoption.
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>>136264945
I imagine at the time it was written, people were very unwilling to acknowledge female sexuality at all. This appears to be the case, seeing the way women are often referred to as property or at the very least something less than man in most cultures of the day. I should imagine they didn't even consider the possibility that lesbians were even a thing.

In short, taken in a literal sense based on that passage I suppose lesbians are fine.
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>>136261680
This. Should've thrown those dykes off the roof tbqh
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>>136264084

This isn't about discrimination or denial of service. It's about two people who want to force a religious community to forsake their beliefs so they can feel good about themselves. Basically, extreme narcissism.
Marriage is a specific religious ritual. You can live with your same-sex partner and do whatever you want as long as you don't transgress on other people's liberties.
Why should a huge, ancient community bend over backwards and shit on the culture of their ancestors to allow two people to play pretend?
If I, a grown man, wanted to hang out in the little girls locker room, do you not think I should be prevented from doing so? Would it be sensible for me to cry 'muh discrimination' to attempt to force everyone else to cater to my will? Then why do you think it is reasonable for two same-sex people to force everyone else to engage in a ritual that is meaningless to them?

I think it's a dickish move to disrespect everyone else and demand special rights that you are not entitled to.
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>>136265196\
Doesn't change the fact it's private property and a private business.
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>>136265207
How is that an endorsement? That is nonsense.

This is not equivalent to making a Muslim meat worker prepare pork.

If I sell jewelry to a Muslim couple, then a Jewish couple, which religion does that mean I am endorsing?

>>136265215
Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion though. Only their intent to do harm to other people in a secular context.
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>>136265174
For the same reason courts have ruled gun bans/restrictions okay
For the same reason courts have ruled that there's a constitutional right to fag marriage.

You're once again using circular logic here. "Things are the way they are because it's correct and it's correct because it is the way they are."
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>>136260855
God told us to kill homos and that marriage is between a man and a women before Christianity
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>“We filled out the form that said ‘Bride’s name,’ ‘Budget’ and then where it said ‘Groom,’ we crossed it out and wrote ‘Bride’ and put Shannon’s name down,” Samanas explained.

So they defaced the form and were refused survice.
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>>136265293
Selling a dress is not a religious ritual.

>>136265323
Doesn't matter that it is private property, they are open to the public. Why do they get to discriminate against gays when gays cannot discriminate against Christians?
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>>136265146
It means you're willing to provide your service, which is an endorsement. It's a question of individual moral conscience though.

Think about all the calls for boycotts, like Christians boycotting diaper companies that give crude commercials, or lefitsts boycotting businesses that manufacture under poor work conditions
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>>136265349
>If I sell jewelry to a Muslim couple, then a Jewish couple, which religion does that mean I am endorsing?
Both. And it is equivalent. It's a refusal based on religious grounds with foreknowledge of a said person's religious beliefs.
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>>136265235
>I should imagine they didn't even consider the possibility that lesbians were even a thing.

But it is supposed to be the written word of God. If wrong, then it was written by men, making it invalid anyway.
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>>136265349
>Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion though
>Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion though
>Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion though
>Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion though
>Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion though
>Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion though
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>>136265224
Mentally ill people shouldn't be able to adopt kids either fudgepacker.
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>>136265432
Service is not an endorsement. If I sell jewelry to a Jewish couple, and then to a Muslim couple, which religion am I endorsing?

Christians want to harm gays. Plain and simple, and claim that a book justified it.
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>>136265349
>Religions harm to others in a secular way.
lol wat
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>>136265235
Nope.

>Romans 1:26-27 26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
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>>136265513
>Service is not an endorsement. If I sell jewelry to a Jewish couple, and then to a Muslim couple, which religion am I endorsing?
Both.
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>>136258240
Based fucking store
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>>136265424
>Doesn't matter that it is private property, they are open to the public.
It does matter, it's their building and they can ask you to leave without serving you for any reason.

You're clearly a shitposter, I doubt you're even gay, probably just a Canadian.
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>>136265518
You are responsible for harming people if you own a secular business. If this business was registered as a Church, sure you could make an argument about religious freedom. But this is people hiding behind religious beliefs to harm others in a purely secular context.
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>>136260855
The entire point of marriage is creating children, an environment to raise the best children and to stop infidelity

Gays only want to get married to molest kids and tax cuts
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>>136265593
They can't ask you to leave for being Black. We had this debate in the 1960s. People claimed refusing to serve Blacks was religious freedom.
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>>136265601
>You are responsible for harming people if you own a secular business.
There is no harm. It's, literally, all in your head.
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>>136265513
You must recognize there is a difference in the level of moral dilemma between withholding a sale of a product to someone because he is gay vs. withholding sale of a product knowing it will be used in a way you feel is wrong
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>>136265640
Then why are infertile couples allowed to marry and claim the same tax breaks?
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>>136265235
Women are less than men.

They have the most important job on earth, however.
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>>136265196
>Private businesses are obligated to service anyone who walks in.
You are so ignorant it hurts.
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>>136265680
Nailed it. /thread
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>>136265424
>Selling a dress is not a religious ritual.
Neither is selling a ham sandwich, but it's still considered a hate crime if you ask a muslim to do it.
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>>136259865
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>>136265657
>We had this debate in the 1960s
You mean that unconstitutional ruling around when literal communists were confirmed to have infiltrated the system?
Show your flag you fucking leaf.
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>>136265680
When you refuse service to someone because of the belief that an item you sell will be used in a gay marriage you are discriminating against them because they are gay. I don't control being gay so why should I be refused goods and services offered to people who were born straight? Why should you be allowed to discriminate by some circumstances of birth but not others (race, religion, national origin)?
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>>136265688
They shouldn't in all honesty. In fact, infertility is actually grounds for an annulment in both Christianity and U.S. law.
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>>136265703
The laws are set up around public accommodation, not whether the business is on private property or not.
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>>136261905
>gayjew
no thank you
i'm not into pedophilia
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>>136258240
>reserve the rights afforded to them by the First Amendment of the Constitution
That's not what the constitution does. It grants or affords no rights, but rather presupposes the existence of those rights as being separate from the constitution, and pledges (albeit ineffectively) that the government shall not interfere with them.
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>>136265483
>happy holidays
>sparkle season
>middle east killing christians
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>>136261239
Nein. Wedding dress stores on regular retailers, people are marrying less and less - particularly in heathen Weimerica.

At best other dress stores may hope for increased public awareness, thus free promotion via nigger loving media. Increased promotion does not mean increased sales, basic business.
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>>136265196
They are not a public service, therefore they SERVE NO ONE.

I think we both know you are full of shit and are just arguing now to not appear btfo.

Private property - they can do what they like. No where in American law does it say a business owner must sell a service to a person just because they asked for it. Like everybody does, the business owners have a right to refusal.

If a big black gay nigger wanted to fuck you in the arse and you simply said no, can he take you to court because you refused to let him give you one?

No. Exactly lad. Right to refusal.

Fuck off.
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>>136259865
Because nothing is more degenerate than homosexuals. One good thing about islam is that they will end the degeneracy and reintroduce the death penalty and then at last we will see some justice done.
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>>136265792
I'm not denying that it's discrimination, discrimination just means to see a difference. The question is should the discrimination be protected?

My answer is yes, because freedom of association is required for free market capitalism to thrive. I think you also should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason you see fit, because you're a private individual
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>>136265513
>not being able to give their money to a Chrisian business is harming gays

It's funny because I never minded gays until this gay marriage shit got rammed through and I could witness first hand just how vindictive, narcissistic, and cruel fruitpickers are. Now I'm a full-bore homophobe, somehing about them hijacking the word "love" rubbed me the wrong way.
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>>136265477
Sure it was written by men. No thinking person can study religion and not see that Christianity is a conglomerate of existing traditions and practices. I'm not defending the holiness of the text, just pointing out what it says. It's patently wrong to say that the Bible teaches acceptance of gays. The fact that this particular verse seems to forget about lesbians is an telling oversight by the author(s), but the general message concerning homosexuality doesn't leave much room for interpretation.
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>>136265424

Selling a bridal dress for a Christian marriage is. Stop trying to dodge the issue, you're trying to force all people around you to do something they are not required to. No one in this case is discriminating against gays. They are in the right to deny service as the two ladies have the right to complain. Both are protected by the same laws.

Also, please learn what 'discrimination' means. Not wanting to give someone special treatment because they think they are superior to everyone else isn't discrimination, it's common civility.
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>>136265659
he would never acknowledge that homosexuals degenerate lifestyles are literally harming, killing people and and endangering thousands of people.

remember a time when you could have sex with someone without contracting AIDS/HIV, nobody does that is such a world so far gone into our past that it might as well be fantasy
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>>136265513
real Christians don't want to harm anyone. people can say they are Christian but it doesn't mean they really are. Just because you celebrate Christmas and Easter >>136265513
doesn't make you Christian.It's a personal connection with Yahweh that makes you more like Him. People are people and say and do stupid things, but true Christians shouldn't have hate towards anyone. Christianity is not religion. Christ came to get rid of all that nonsense. That's what Pentecost is.
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>>136258240
Fucking faggots.

sage
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>>136259449
What a fucking Tumblr thing to say.
Why, because it "hits home"?
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>>136262077
This, you faggots bitching about the shop not providing goods and services can go fuck yourselves, you faggots bitching about the lesbians wanting goods and services can fuck yourselves too.
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>>136265992
The business is open to the public. They have a responsibility to serve all customers and they knew that when opening their store.
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>>136266087
Marriage exists outside of Christianity. Christians do not have a monopoly on marriage, its meaning, or who can get one. They have a monopoly on churches and what can happen inside those four walls.
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>>136265688
Let's rewrite our ancient human laws for a one in a 500,000 case, it always works out so well
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>>136266094
Venereal diseases were still quite common prior to fags becoming accepted in the latter part of the 20th century. Hell, syphilis was a deadly epidemic when the Spaniards first brought it over from the New World.
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>>136265688
Infertility is not an issue. They can adopt (homos shdn't be allowed, they shd be dead anyway). Also infertility almost never can be determined before marriage, it just happens after.
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>>136266094
I really feel sorry for kids in this day and age, not only are they born in the age of such degeneracy but they're born into an age where a group that's highly susceptible to molesting them is seen as completely acceptable.
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>>136266152
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>>136265792
I hold the belief that you should be able to discriminate against whoever you want.
>>136265688
Because marriage is based around the principle that two individuals of the opposite sex, assuming no genetic defects (abnormalities), can get married for the purpose of procreating. If you need outside aid from a machine or another individual to do that, then you can't get married. If you intentionally mutilate yourself to become infertile, you were still originally biologically intended to be capable of reproducing. Same thing if you were born with a defect. Old people were also once capable of reproducing, so they're included.

Note that gay people were /never/ denied the right to marry. You just had to follow the same rules as everyone else, because those rules exist for a reason.

Also, this thread is retarded. Sage.
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>>136266165
That's called slavery
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>>136264673
>Christians wont cater to one specific event
>Racist bigot homophobes
You are the reason Donald Trump won, well that and Hillary was the worst candidate ever.
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ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
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>>136266422
Ok let me know when you can run a restaurant that refuses to serve Black customers. Christians are abusing weaknesses in the law and if you keep doing this you will be rewarded by changes to those laws to protect the rights of gays to be served by businesses open to the public.
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>>136265513

>Christians want to harm gays. Plain and simple, and claim that a book justified it.
Actual Christians don't want to harm anyone. A minority of gay people DO want to harm Christians and other religious groups by defacing their structures and sanctuaries, and mocking their traditions.
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>>136266535
Christians used to kill gay people openly. I'm sure some still would if given the chance.
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>>136266165
Is a jew working in a Holocaust museum obligated to give a tour to a man in an SS uniform that shouts "Heil Hitler" after every exhibit with photos of dead jews?
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>>136265483
Matthew 5:10 - "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." Not always easy to take the garbage sometimes, we are human.
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>>136258240
>Private business refused to sell their product

I see no problem.
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>>136266165
>They have a responsibility to serve all customers
So basically, faggot, you're saying that if you had a cake shop and I came in demanding a cake in the shape of a swastika for April 20th that said, "Happy Birthday, Mein Fuhrer. All kikes, niggers and faggots should be gassed!" you would make it and not object in any way, not try to punish me in any way, not try to damage my celebration in any way?
You're a fucking liar!
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>>136260855
>imagine living your life in a sick sad parody of heterosexuality

>getting "married" for no reason other to mimic heterosexuals

>adopting or even worse, paying a surrogate in another sad attempt to live a normal life

>buying or investing in property knowing that nobody who shares your bloodline will inherit it after you die
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>>136266535
I want gays to be incarcerated and executed by the government, but not by vigilantes. I don't expect it to happen.
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>>136265349
>Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion though
so specifically targeting them, suing them and shutting down their business because of their religious convictions isn't discrimination? Interesting.
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>>136266590
No because that is disruptive. Nor is a baker required to make a cake that says "kill all gay people because the bible says so".

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dublin-bakery-s-refusal-of-anti-gay-marriage-cake-not-discrimination-1.3165211

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/denvers-azucar-bakery-wins-right-to-refuse-to-make-anti-gay-cake

The dispute began March 13, 2014 when Jack went to the bakery at 1886 S. Broadway and requested two cakes shaped like bibles. He asked that one cake have the image of two groomsmen holding hands in front of a cross with a red "X" over them. He asked that the cake be decorated with the biblical verses, "God hates sin. Psalm 45:7" and "Homosexuality is a detestable sin. Leviticus 18:22", according to the Civil Rights Divisions' decision.

On the second bible-shaped cake, Jack also requested the image of the two groomsmen with the red "X". He wanted it decorated with the words "God loves sinners" and "While we were yet sinners Christ died for us. Romans 5:8."

He told the civil rights agency he ordered the cakes with the imagery and biblical verses to convey that same-sex marriage is, in his words, "un-biblical and inappropriate."

Marjorie Silva, the owner of the bakery, told Jack that she would make him the bible-shaped cakes, but would not decorate them with the biblical verses and the image of the groomsmen that he requested. Instead, she offered to provide him with icing and a pastry bag so he could write or draw whatever messages he wished on the cakes.

Silva told the civil rights agency that she also told Jack her bakery "does not discriminate" and "accept[s] all humans."
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>>136265601
COMMIE
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>>136266597
>Christians are ok with being discriminated against
Is not the same as
>Nobody is discriminating against Christians for their religion

I'm not even christian but I can see they're some of the most discriminated against people in the western world.
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>>136266165
Are you fucking kidding me? You are really this stupid and ignorant?

How. Many. Times.

They have no responsibility to do anything since they are on PRIVATE PROPERTY.
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>>136266575
Christians also kill normal people openly.
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>>136265835

I don't think you understand the meaning of 'private property'.
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>>136266787
>No because that is disruptive.
How is it disruptive? What if he does it quietly?
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>>136266389
>tfw you realize that homophobia is an evolved defense mechanism to ensure young boys survive to reproduce and don't get diverted into the genetic dead-end that is becoming some older man's fucktoy.

There's a reason the male victims of serial killers are typically young homosexuals and not homophobes.
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>>136266625
see

>>136266787

>>136266777
I'm pretty sure the women wanting wedding dresses had no idea the people who own the store hate gays when they went to shop.

The Colorado gay cake case people were recommended the bakery by their wedding planner. They had no idea the baker hates gays walking into the store.
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>>136265902
>>sparkle season
I've never heard this until now.
"Happy Holidays" bullshit makes me so fucking mad.
>>136266575
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>>136261905
Ooh look the gayjew entrapment server
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>>136266915
>I'm pretty sure the women wanting wedding dresses had no idea the people who own the store hate gays when they went to shop.
>The Colorado gay cake case people were recommended the bakery by their wedding planner. They had no idea the baker hates gays walking into the store.
And yet they still wanted to buy there after finding out. Really makes you think, doesn't it?
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>>136266575
Lulz.

Gays dont commit any crimes do they.

For their population size, gays commit an extremely disproportionate amount of child molestation / paedophilia crimes. Percentage wise it is insanely higher than any other 'minority group'.

I wonder how many suicides gays are responsible for?
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>not gonna serve you because ur gay.

Ppl like this just need to die off.. who gives a fuck about faggots.
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>>136266787
Jews can deny service to Nazis and Muslims can refuse to have anything to do with pork, but Christians can't refuse anything to fags?

Fuck off.
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>>136258240
>muh bible
What matters is the law and gays are considered legal to buy anything.
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>>136267089
I can't tell if this is bait or satiric irony.
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>>136266528
Total and usual BS. Homo is not a race. You can't change your race. You become a homo, your decision
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>not gonna serve you because ur gay.

Ppl like this just need to die off.. who gives a fuck about faggots.

>marriage is sacred.

Tell that to the millions of women sold off to other families for some goats or land.
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>>136267259
Post your flag, Pajeet.
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>>136267259
Okay, now it's bait. Very poor bait at that. I recommend you head back to the shop you bought it from and ask for a refund.
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>>136266848

Laws are not based here on whether a business is on private property but whether they offer goods and services to the general public or not.

A restaurant on PRIVATE PROPERTY that refuses to serve Blacks is going to get fined and shut down.
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>>136267090
All the real nazis are dead but if u come in as a larping nazu i dunno why ur buying from a jew.

Muslims not eating pork doesnt harm anyone.

Treat ppl like shit cus they are faggots is not christian.. jesus would not turn a person down or hate someone cus they were a faggot. He eas pure love. The bible is ass shit only jesus is worth following and he preached peace to all even those u dont like or understand.. fake christians btfo
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>>136266249
>>136266249
do you know about IRS-501c3? because they are controlled by the gov't. they don't tell about Pentecost or political issues and most get a pre made sermon every Sunday. You should be very concerned about islam, not a gov't controlled church.
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>>136267252
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/04/the-science-of-sexuality-how-our-genes-make-us-gay-or-straight/

http://archive.is/y64OH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

https://www.advocate.com/health/2015/10/09/study-dna-identical-twins-can-reveal-whos-gay

http://archive.is/GuptB

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

http://archive.is/PSmzQ

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/research.points.to.genetic.element.in.homosexuality/35856.htm

http://chaladze.com/files/publications/Chaladze2016ASB.pdf

http://archive.is/g3lal

http://www.nature.com/news/epigenetic-tags-linked-to-homosexuality-in-men-1.18530

Being gay is not a choice. But I'm sure you know better than all these trained scientists.
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>>136261068
>getting this mad over 2 dykes
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>>136267089
+15 sheckels to the good goy! Yes, goy, yes.
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>>136267520
>Being gay is not a choice.
Yes it is, you can always choose to kill yourself or get therapy for your mental illness.
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>>136266249

>Marriage exists outside of Christianity.
Yes, that is why I precisely stated Christian marriage. If I assumed marriage only existed in Christianism, I would not have specified it.

>Christians do not have a monopoly on marriage, its meaning, or who can get one. They have a monopoly on churches and what can happen inside those four walls.
Marriage is a ritual between a man and a woman for the purpose of creating offspring in a healthy environment. You can raise kids without having to perform that specific ritual. You must get it through your head that homosexuality and marriage (regardless of religion, because all forms of marriage are defined as being between partners of the opposite sex) are mutually exclusive.

You either pursue your homosexuality or practice heterosexual matrimony. You can't have both. Just like a person can't be both a statist and an anarchist. Or a be both left-winged and right-winged. The definition excludes it.

The problem gay people have with marriage is that they incorrectly believe that marriage is some kind of fun love-themed party and they want to do it too. Why not invent your *own* same-sex traditions instead of invading other people's cultures?
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>>136267520
>rained scienists
You can take your nu-priests and shove them up your faggot ass.
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>>136266787

You cannot force people to respect you or agree with your lifestyle. It will not happen. You cannot accept tolerance, then you destroy what will not conform to your ideology. Stop it, and wake up. You need to get your act together and stop brow beating those who fundamentally disagree with you. For 2000 years people have held these beliefs, and you are not going to stop them with your tyrannical bullshit. This immoral wickedness will not help you.
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>>136266393
Muslim here, we practice taquiyya and routinely lies to infidels and apostates. Not sure why you'd take anything we say in a nation that hates us seriously.

Look at gay rights in Muslim nations.
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>>136267699
Marriage is a legal contract and confers benefits outside of child-rearing arrangements. Gays can hire a surrogate or adopt.
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>>136267520
Homosexuality is a mental disease, it isn't natural, it's shit play, they have too many sexual partners. they don't respect people and it's not healthy. Also, nobody should parade their sexual orientation in public.
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>>136267813
How exactly are epigenetic tags mental illness?
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>>136265224
>Surrogacy and adoption.
he said "have kids"
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>>136267390

Not bait.. literally anyone who spends an ounce of energy hating gays is a fucking cancer.. literally dont give a fuck about faggots.. i barely see them. When i do they do nothing to me.. the only time they annoy me is pride week because they dress up all weird and naked but that more degenerate society than it has to do with being a faggot. You habe a customer whoa about to spend money and u turn them away cus she likes pussy not dick.. the fuck man?
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>>136260551
>Things that are not normally accepted should be accepted in the name of "freedom of religion"
>this is what religious people actually believe
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>>136259865
Wrong board, AIDS riddled faggot
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>>136267520
So it's a birth defect?

Explain why defective genes should be allowed in the gene pool.
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>>136267472

They did not treat the lesbians like shit. They respectfully told them that they could not aid in their wedding.
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>>136267950
It's mostly induced, molested children are more likely to be gay for example.
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>>136266575

Again, I said *actual Christians*, not people who label themselves as such. Saying you're Christian doesn't make you one. Following the teachings of Christ does. People who harm anyone are, by definition, not Christians.

People who used to kill gay people openly for no reason other than their sexuality are called murderous homophobes. The homosexual community is quite known for misusing the second word.
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>>136267840
Anon, do whatever you want, push a melon up your ass if you want, but i would ban gays if i could and keep it to yourself. I don't care what you do at home, but public homosexuality should be banned.
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>>136266915
>I'm pretty sure the women wanting wedding dresses had no idea the people who own the store hate gays when they went to shop.
Let's pretend that your not a retard and your right, they had no idea that the openly Christian establishment didn't approve of gay marriage. Why not just go to someplace else? you do know they also have the right to associate with whom ever they like as well. Would you go to a skinhead bar dressed in your assless chaps? No? Why not? Are you a bigot for not wanting to associate with them?
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>>136267520
That's BS not science. This is what Paul said about this ((((science)))) and the homos:
Romans 1:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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>>136267840
>pic sauce
>http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/child-molestation-and-homosexuality-2/
It's a choice, never proven by science to be genetic or inherited.
"The origin of mutants; John Cairns, Department of Cancer Biology, Harvard School of Public Health"
To simplify, genes are nothing but info dumps, only encimes can effect us and our behaviours, if we accept the genetic/any other information is up to us.
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>>136267840

What if I was upset about OCD being classified as a mental illness, and I was wealthy and had prestige? I started lobbying and making groups protesting OCD being characterized as a mental illness. Soon folks in the psychological and medical communities started joining in with other wealthy donors and soon OCD is no longer classified as a mental illness in the DSM.

Is OCD still a mental illness?

Homosexuality is an aberration. It effects an extremely small part of the human family and is atypical. It would also cause a negative impact on a whole population if everybody had the disorder.

It is a fucking disorder. It was taken off the DSM because folks in the medical community and rich faggots got it taken off.

And no you cannot force people act against their 2000 year old beliefs because it hurts your feelings. You faggots have destroyed the natural dignity and worth of the civil rights movement with your evil garbage.
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>>136266004
>one good thing about islam
fuck off cunt.
>still waiting on the imperial creed
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>>136266154
you know what the problem with the right is? hardly anyone supports anything anyone else does. then we act surprised when shit like fags taking a cake store to court happens.

lefties have taken over and gotten away with some much shit because they always advertise get involved with all their retarded groups. they're so fucking loud in both their campaigning and physical protest that dumbcunts listen to them.
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>>136267905

Turning away a gay couple is not hate. I do not understand progressive logic. Why cant I just turn it around and ask why progressives hate Christians so much?
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>>136267412

>A restaurant on PRIVATE PROPERTY that refuses to serve Blacks is going to get fined and shut down.
It shouldn't, though, as it is a violation of the 1st.
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>>136268535
ignore typos it's about 4am here bout to hit the hay
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>>136268416
Find me a definition of mental illness. Find me reasons why gays are covered by it. I pointed out to you numerous reasons and studies explaining that being gay is a biological reality determined by a mix of genetic influence and epigenetic tags and you have ignored those realities because they do not conform to what an old book tells you to think.
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>>136266509
what are we going to do about it? maybe the whites that are tired of being slaves can move to east europe and help build and make those nations stronger. there was the "iron curtain" for 45 years and it would be nice to do that again focus on clean living being productive and making large families. also and most important no world banks can be involved with countries finances. would be nice to make an all white nation and keep everyone else out. the PM of hungary victor orban said the whites who want something better can come to hungary. sounds good to me. watching my nation burn and fall into darkness would be tough, but I can't storm DC and take the gov't back for the people. we are so flooded with parasites it will fail. so sad because it could have been so much better. greed is killing us.
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>>136258240
It is their choice and their potential missed business, who cares?

They have the right to refuse service to ANYONE.
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>>136268650
Then why do restaurants have to serve Blacks?
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>>136268422
christians are not going to do it and christianity is almost died out. Atheists love gay sex and have gay sex all day, even the straight atheists prefer gay sex and often EXCLUSIVELY have gay sex. So Islam is the only group in the west likely to do something with it.
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>>136258240
I hate faggots but if I were a dress making I'd try to appeal to lesbians in the hopes of occasionally selling two dresses (though most relationships would have a butch in a suit or something)
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>>136268690
>Christianity has almost died out
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>>136258240
as a fag I wish the rest if you would just stop harassing these small business owners. you're just being bullies.
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>>136268684
They shouldn't have to, and according to the Constitution they shouldn't be forced to.
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>>136268627
Africans are also biological, but that doesn't means we should be having them on streets other than in Africa. Everything is biological, including frogs in ponds and parasites in your ass. But i rather not have parasites, while frogs should not be in middle of street or pub, they should be in pond. Gays should be gay at their home. If they fuck dildoes at home, ok, you are a freak, but when you go out you should not display any notion of that or be jailed.
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>>136268805
Well Except in Africa and other places with a lot of niggers like America I guess.
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>>136260706
I agree with this statement. in a capitalist Society people should be free to do business with whoever they want or don't want to. forcing a business owner to do business with people they don't want to is fascism.
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>>136265047
>Civil Rights Act
unconstitutional trash.
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>>136268538
Its not necessary.. and to say im not gonna serve you cus im christian is utter fucking bullshit. You have the option to be a kind real christian and bring some happiness into some faggots life and get paid but instead u deny them.. ruffle their weak enotional asses for weeks and cause a shitstorm. Becuz for some stupid fucking reason you thunk the bible is more anti gay than it is pro love to all. Even enemies the bible says pray for them.
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>>136268684
Freedom of religion. The lesbians can go to a lot of different stores to get their wedding shit. The owners of that store have the right to refuse them based on believes. Refusing blacks service is not based on religion.
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>>136260855
I'm honestly not so sure about this statement anymore. marriage has always had religious overtones.
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>>136268994
Why should lesbians be burdened more than straight couples?
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>>136258240
Should have said they were muslim.
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kill fags for their own good
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>>136263820
Slippery slope

If we let gays get married who's to say bestiality and pedophilia won't because legal next?
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>>136261050
marriage is the most basic unit of a society. the purpose of marriage is to build stable families that contribute and add to the economy.
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>>136261068
gays married in many ancient societies your historical knowledge is incomplete.
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>>136269075
they aren't. a private business doing or not doing business with you isn't a burden on you. if their personal freedom.
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>>136269135
Muslims are more accepting of us gays than evangelical Christians though (the ones who are discriminating against gays).

All that trying to fuck us over in public does is create new laws in our favor and court decisions in our favor. So to Christians, I hope, in a sense, they will continue such senseless acts.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/seventh-circuit-court-rules-sexual-orientation-protected-class-kimberly-hively-v-ivy
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>>136267412
youre why people hate you faggots. youre willfully ignorant
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>>136265224
I feel bad for you. You can't procreate with the person you love but you want to be treated as 'normal.' You believe you're normal but in fact you are an anomaly. There is nothing more natural on this earth than reproduction, it is one of the only criteria in the definition of life - the ability to reproduce. But you can't do that. I mean technically you can, but your biology negates the instinct. It must be so confusing, living with this condition, as it takes you to Tajikistani ant colony pet farm forums to argue with people who have thought more about this than your subconscious allows you to. After all, why would you examine yourself thoroughly? You'd probably end up distraught, depressed. Hopefully one day you will meditate on your own existence and come to the conclusion that suicide is the only way out of the walking contradiction that is your life.
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>>136269034
Difference is that Facebook got a lot more money and influence than local wedding business.
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>>136269292
Ok so why can't they refuse to serve interracial couples who want to get married?
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>>136258240
Haha

Literally
>o-okay...
When challenged
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>>136269066
Not really.. it was all aboutbpower transfer bringing fanilies together and land.
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>>136260731
Much like the attack on Kim Davis- the county clerk who refused to issue the marriage license in Kentucky, these faggots drove out of their way into a rural area in what is likely a targeted attack. Either they already knew that they'd meet resistance at this particular store, or they went in to many stores until they found "The One" that they could use as a cross to crucify themselves on.
Either way, they win. It has a terrible psychological effect on these small towns when the commies, leftists and faggots start to attack them. It brings division and strife to an area that is already suffering economically. But division and driving that wedge is their goal. They cannot allow any area to cling to their traditions or beliefs, and they will bring their fucking army of faggots, trannies, and tumblr bullies there to ridicule and shame the younger people until they denounce their own family, their religious beliefs, and their heritage and pride. I've seen this play out in real life and it sucks.
We should have never allowed the faggots to have rights or pride. They will never give anyone else that same freedom.
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>>136269166
Gays = 2 consenting adults

Pedo and beastility is not at all the same.
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>>136266807
I'm far from ok with it. My Gpa was a Pentecostal pastor, and I lived in a small town. But I have grown a lot and that stuff doesn't bother me anymore, I tell people about Christ and that's what I'm supposed to do; most people just think I'm weird.
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>>136269312
>implying we atheists wouldn't string you abominations up
Also:
>>136268409
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>>136269357
Cause you are not allowed to be racist.
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>>136269414
You mean the woman who cost Kentucky's taxpayers over 200 thousand dollars because she refused to do the job she was elected to do?

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/07/kentucky-will-pay-223k-kim-davis-awful/
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>>136269348
>more money and influence
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>>136269312
you know muslim majority countries throw faggots off roofs right? christian countries are the most gay countries. kys
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My lack of faith prohibits me from not shitting on church steps. Why should public defecation laws be allowed under the first amendment?
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>>136269312
this is the dumbest thing I have literally ever heard in my entire life.

a Muslim thinking that you were in the wrong means they're going to throw you off a building.

even if the most extreme Christians like the Westboro Baptist Church protest you you're going to come out alive. Westboro Baptist Church protested outside of my dorm and absolutely nothing happened. like all Christians they are completely passive us so they came they protested and nobody was injured. even the most hardcore Evangelical Christians are more likely to be harmed by our side than the other way around at this point.

you pissed off a hardcore Muslim and they're just going to explode or throw you off a tall building. Christians might think that they disagree with you but they aren't going to kill you for it. pissing off a Christian means they're going to repeatedly invite you to study groups and bake you lemon cakes and take you to their little study groups after church.
i'm a friend in anyway bei Christians having a difference of opinion. a Muslim having a difference of opinion is going to get everyone killed. only the dumbest and most gullible gays would confuse conservative Christians and Muslims. congratulations on being a tool of the deep state.
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>>136269312
>Muslims are more accepting of gays than Christians

Jesus Christ this some delusion and/or high class bait.
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>>136269330
gay man involved in order to take care of Orphans in family units... I believe this is a God given role in society and it makes me proud to believe that I can contribute.
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>>136258240


Where the fuck is the outrage from Muslim bakeries that refuse to sell to gay couples.
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>>136269639
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>>136259449
>implying polfags can find a woman
There is literally no support in the evangelicals for not selling dresses to carpet munchers.
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>You wouldn't tell a sikh to remind his dagger when entering your shop
>You wouldn't tell a muslim to remove their hijab on entering your shop
>It's okay to walk in to a christain shop and expect the owners to serve you when you're against their beliefs
Smj
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>>136267930
Refusing the right to serve someone is pretty normal, restaurant owners commonly ban people who they have bad history with
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>>136258240
>Bridal Store Refuses to Sell Wedding Dresses to Lesbians

gooood.

lesbians are the most evil 'humans' on the planet.

99.999% feminists, all feminist leaders are., they are the most sick misandrist and the SOURCE of misandry.

if i had the power, i would gas every single one of them. personally.
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>>136269717
DAS RAYCIS!
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>>136269312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM6GP0FuhnQ

Enjoy your flight, faggot.
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>>136268364
/thread.

Listen up people. The God who created all of the universe. Who created each and Every one of you. The God who controls the hearts of kings like running water through his hand...he turns it in any direction he chooses. This same God who is angry with the Wickid everyday Has spoken on the subject.

Repent from your sins. Turn to the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. Believe in your heart he was God and that he died for your sins and that he was raised from the dead. He will return soon and he will tread the Wine press of the wrath of almighty GOD. Repent and believe. While GOD has given you time my friends!!!
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>>136261068
>were never permitted to marry
>except for when they were
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_unions

inb4 "but but prove it more"
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>>136269450
Tell that to Canada where you can marry and fuck your pet dog. As soon as marriage is turned into anything other than providing a biological mother and father to a child, it is no longer marriage. This is the essence of civilization, the building block of everything is the family. Once it's no longer about creating a positive environment for offspring it becomes a slippery slope. Forget about God for a moment and understand the importance of a natural family. God is there to give spiritual context but spirituality is a cultural backdrop correlated to the efficacy of a civilization. In other words, God just 'happens' to be there when we look at the Biblical definition of marriage - every great society understands the importance of men and women forming a monogamous bond and nurturing the next generation of children, with or without God.
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>>136267699
marriage is a covenant between a man, woman and Yahweh, this is what makes it sacred; when you say those vows you are promising to the Creator that you will abide by them. It's a holy covenant. It doesn't bother me if gays want a partnership contract or whatever.
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>>136269953
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If Christians are forced to sell things to gays then I'll go to a Kosher grocery shop dresses as a neo Nazi and force them to give me service as well
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>>136269170
>The economy

Yeah I'm sure people 20,000 years ago were thinking about "the economy" when they mated

Marriage is just breeding with a label
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>>136268627

Folks with certain mental illnesses carry certain heritable traits as well. Homosexuals do have specific traits besides being attracted to the same gender. It is a genetic abnormality. It is not normal to insert your penis into a rectum or mouth. Sorry anon. I do not see how this is hard to comprehend. There are plenty of inherited genes that are not beneficial to a person.

How long has gay marriage been legitimate? How long have people been practicing Christianity? How can you hold legitimacy over an entire cultural heritage? You are absolutely insane.
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>>136268690

Ever wonder why that is? Think we are heading in a good direction?
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>>136270081
It really does piss me off that fat land whales get more attention than people who really do have problems like this.
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>>136259865
Because Pic related
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>>136268993

As a Christian I would serve them, but you cannot burden a person's conscience because it hurts your feelings. I cannot believe you do not see this.
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>>136270145

Gays are a natural evolutionary adaptation by clan units to provide for orphans. Gays have neurological adaptations that make them superior care givers to infants and children.

The same constellation of traits is seen in other species.
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>>136263998
>lose money
or
>go to hell
Hmmm
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>>136269697
I can take care of orphans too. The difference is, I have a choice. You don't.

>>136270000
Checking myself in the midst of all these shit tier arguments.
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>>136259449
Yeah, because they're Christians I bet. If they were muzzies /pol/ wouldn't give a shit.
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>>136270435

You can do it, but not as well. You lack the connections in your brain that make you empathetic. Not really surprising considering the content of your posts...
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>>136266154
Because we need to support ourselves, kike.

>omg those queers at tumblr can't stop BREATHING, we should stop breathing right now
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>>136260781
My spouse and I got married for wealth building and medical rights. We didn't want our families being the ones do decide what happens to us should one of us be incapacitated/hospitalized.
Marriage/family has always been about wealth building. That is why gays fought for the right.
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>>136270544
Checked, but not an argument. Why'd you change your flag? Decided to be an American all of a sudden?
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>>136270660

Gays aren't a unity. A huge number of us fought for rights because we wanted to raise families and contribute to society. Many of us want to make society more stable. Adopting unwanted orphans is a sacred duty that gay men are uniquely equipped for .
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Blablablah "I don't give a fuck these threads are lame"
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>>136270766

I switched computers. Paranoid much? Does the flag really matter? You should focus on the arguments.
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>>136269414
>t brings division and strife to an area that is already suffering economically
I don't get why leftists have such a burning hatred for poor people.
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>>136270660
Apparently they did it to harass Christians. Even as an Atheist I find this shit obnoxious. If I knew it was going to be like this I would have been marching with the Christians to not allow gay marriage. Now that it has happened I don't care if they get thrown off buildings.
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>>136270224
It's secularism and atheism that is the cause of course. Christianity COULD have fixed it, but all the priests are homosexual now.
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>>136270767
Yes, except you molest them at a disproportionate rate than the rest of the population.

>Tells me to focus on arguments
>Instead of addressing my points, tells me I lack brain connections

Nice try nancy boy.
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>>136270819

Because of the fundamental concept behind "progressivism" says that they are only poor because they haven't adopted the progressive's "superior" moral outlook.
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>>136270406
>fucking children is "superior care"

fucking degenerate.
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>>136270941

Most studies have actually shown the opposite. Gay men have abuse rates on par with straight women.
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>>136270948

If you intentionally confuse gays and pedophiles who have entirely different brain structures, then your argument really isn't going to have much weight with me.
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>>136271032
>When you're getting BTFO so hard in a thread you try to salvage yourself by comparing yourself to women, the niggers of gender.

Holy shit gays really are mentally ill
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>>136270946
They seem to hate poor liberals equally. They are the greedy 1% resource hogs they say they despise.
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>>136263820
The purpose behind anti discrimination laws is to prevent a polarized community from starving out a minority group. Anti discrimination laws are technically anti trust laws. So if one has the option to go to another store(another store in the immediate area) then they would/should not be able to use anti discrimination laws to antagonize the store that refused them.
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The fact that there are open fucking AIDS pests arguing and justifying their degeneracy is mind boggling. Not a single of these cocksucking dildo shoving fucks has even tried to consider that they're fucked in a head and mentally ill - instead they're pushing even more shit onto others to accept and cater to their scumfuckery. Literally oven fuel
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>>136271204

I'm losing? This is news to me. This entire thread sounded like a bunch of butthurt whining. But its not like I'm an expert in that or anything ;p

Guess it sounds different to everyone!
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>>136271412
>thread sounded like a bunch of butthurt whining
tell your bf to use more lube, then
also, fuck off to >>>lgbtaids
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>>136271086
fuck off, faggot. Who would even try to argue with a moral degenerate like you? Better to just cut your head
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>>136270817
sure, feel free to start anytime.
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>>136271344

There are a huge number of conservative, sexually chaste gays that are part of the Republican party. We don't go to pride parades, so you only see the flamboyant ones on the left.

If you get pissed at us for showing you that we are gay, then how are we supposed to show you that we are the normal gays?
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>>136269312
>Muslims are more accepting of us gays than evangelical Christians
I don't see how you come to this conclusion. You must not know any evangelical Christians or Muslims.
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>>136271505

I don't have aids. I don't have a husband, which means I'm celibate.
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>>136271566

The class started 45 minutes ago. Raise your hand if you have question.
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>>136271592
well you fucked up already, being gay ISNT normal and therefore there is no such thing as a "normal gay". quit farming for (You)'s and go shit up another thread
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>>136270406

So cooking the books to change definitions is easing your conscience? Listen man we all have vices. I am an addict. I am predisposed to addiction. I will always be one even when I do not use.

There are good qualities to being an addict though. There is a certain mindset addicts share and some of the best peopel I know are addicts.

Same with homosexuals. Some of the most wonderful people I have known were homo. They just have a genetic aberration, just like addicts do. We all have our crosses to carry. I do not hate homosexuals, I just do not like when homosexuals push the marriage thing. Homosexuality has NEVER been practiced before (except for a literal handful of strange cases) in human history. It is rare when something completely new enters into human civilization, and it is usually not a good sign for things to come. Homosexual marriage is one of them.
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>>136271592
How about you le fucking based faggots actively start hanging degenerates and stop those disgusting decadent subhumans for good? Maybe then you'll be considered more than a dog
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>>136271412
Never said 'losing,' that's an impression of yours coming to the surface xD!

Let me ask - IRL do you justify the normalization of homosexuality with quips about your ability to adopt orphans?
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>>136271716

You are confusing frequency with being normal. Not much of the population is left handed. About the same percentage as gay people. Yet they aren't "sick" and actually constitute a large percentage of our elected leaders.
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>>136270849

Yeah, I am afraid it is the great apostasy foretold. Things are not looking good.
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>>136269357
>why can't they refuse to serve interracial couples who want to get married
I believe as long as there are other stores available they could.

Anti-discrimination laws are supposed to be a shield not a sword.
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>>136271711
hah, funny you make that analogy as youve been gettin schooled this whole time nerd
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>>136270539
fuck Muslims
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>>136269414
The state has a monopoly on issue of marriage license. Anti-discrimination laws would apply.
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>>136271729

Human history is full of gay people. Ancient Greek, Vedic, and Mediterranean texts/tablets are full of references.

Gay people existed in many different configurations in ancient society. Some were better than others.

In fact, some of the oldest texts in the world (vedic) actually discuss the various types of gay people in surprisingly modern (stereotypical) terms.
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>>136271815
the difference between someone whos right handed and left handed is not the same difference between someone whos gay and straight though. frequency aside, its a false equivalence.
>>124205675
i think you need to take a look at this
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>>136271736

le sigh

Some of us are actually trying.

Most of the Gay rights organizations are taken over by trannies. They don't exist off idnividual donations anymore. They basically use the corporate equality index as corporate black mail. Its odd, they actually don't answer to anybody anymore except their own constantly evolving ideology.

This scares me probably more than you.
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>>136271805

They aren't quips. They are scientific observations.

Take a STEM class and learn the difference.
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>>136258710
fuuugggg
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>>136272037

It was evidence that specifically contradicts your conflation of frequency and illness.
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>>136264127
This is not just any old stuff, it's something directly relevant to the wedding ceremony.

They'd make themselves complicit in the sin.
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>>136259865
because faggots should not exist, let alone get married
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>>136270406
>Gays are a natural evolutionary adaptation by clan units to provide for orphans
I dunno if this is the reason, but there must be some advantage or the genetics would have washed out long ago.
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>>136265835
GTFO Gawker faggot
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>>136272201
What STEM class should I take to help me understand that gays' role in society is to adopt orphans?

Can you answer my question instead of suggesting that people who haven't taken the same lofty classes as you are incapable of understanding arguments? Might as well say 'google it'
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>>136270539
Muslims think gays are degenerate, but muslim law allows them to do business with degenerate sinners. Even pagans, jews and people who they consider to do the worst kind of sins. So they would likely not refuse service even if they are sinners. As long as what they are selling is halal.
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>>136265835

No. We are a country based on individual property rights. I can't think of anything more important to our country than the rights of small business owners to determine who they do business with. This is fundamental to the way our country was founded.
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>>136266004
no, muslims don't care what whites do since all non-muslims go to hell anyway

but their kids will be all degenerate welfare niggers, and hopefully this wakes europe up
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>>136266528
>Ok let me know when you can run a restaurant that refuses to serve Black customers.

Why shouldn't a restaurant owner be able to refuse service to whoever they want? It's *their* restaurant, and it's not like getting a cheeseburger is necessary to survival.

And how many businesses in 2017 are going to risk the public backlash for discriminatory policies, apart from any consideration of the law? How many gays live in towns with only 1 Christian bakery?
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>>136270941
I see more of the molestation coming from our lawmakers and church leaders. The Catholic church is a massive conspiracy protect child molesters.
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>>136258240
Good for the store!! Everyone reserves the personal right to refuse service they dont need to sell to people they dont want to. if you dont like the store or the owner fuck off and find another store stop being stupid
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>>136272493

Well, you are going to need a healthy serving of anthropology courses and humanities first of all.

You want to familiarize yourself with all regions of the Indo-Aryan expansion. Most of these societies had gay people, albeit they were utilized in many many different ways.

From psychology you are going to want to take classes that focus on evolutionary psychology. Pay special attention to evolutionary material related the development of altruistic behavior, in particular kinship models that predict altruism in other species.

From the fields of neurology, you are going to want to take classes that look at the INAH-3 regions of the brain. THe sexually dimorphic nucleus has been studied in a number of non human species.

Lastly, of course, you want to take some biology classes, so you understand the pre-natal hormone signalling processes that are at work, and how the deveveloping body actually responds to various hormonal configurations in the mother's womb.
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