Does America have a chance of becoming Fascist?

fascism is dumb tbqh
Just be a good person lad

>>136219518
No, American political system is too stable to ever change, enjoy your great (((Democracy))).

>>136219518
once a form of fascism that accompanies everyone including whites (such as blacks, native americans, muslims, etc) takes hold, then we might see a glimmer of hope. and especially, if normies start to gravitate toward fascism.

>>136219518
>Trump is closet President we've had to push the needle towards fascism
Trump is just another politician. He might be a populist one at that and doing a decent job, but our entrenched system is simply incompatible with fascism. America needs to collapse so a true organic society can be built on top of the ruins. All Trump is doing for us is buying time to prepare.

>>136219518
Sure, remember that it's only been a couple decades since communism fell and only 70 years since fascism fell. Things are still very much in flux, part of the jewish strategy is to trick you into thinking that their rule is much more solid than it actually is.

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>>136219518
The demographic decline of whites is happening too fast for that to ever have enough time to happen. America will barely look different from Brazil 100 years from now and most Americans think that's great.

>>136219925
This. How could fascism appeal to all those groups, however?

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>>136219518
White nationalism is literally growing faster than ISIS recruitment right now. Whites are getting woke after the SJWs and deepstate pushed us too far.

>>136220168
It can't, the point is a unification of race, culture, and state. No united race, no successful centralized state immune to perversion.

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>>136219518
Keep pushing for race realism and you'll get it eventually.

>>136219822
>Republic, corrected
>Facism is Federalism

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Trump is a civic nationalist. There are probably some closeted ethnonationalists among his inner circle but it's not a white nationalist or fascist administration.
It is, however, better than anything we've had in decades and an important step toward moving the political discourse back to where fascistic ideas are mainstream. While Trump is in office American fascists should take the opportunity to build numbers and push the needle of mainstream politics toward their ideas.

>>136220168
only a non-racist type (very similar to an antisemitic version of Brazil's Integralists perhaps) would appeal to all these groups, except for one problem:
1 native americans are generally liberterian
2 blacks are mostly conservative pro-government types
3 last but not least, muslims and other minority religions, especially jains and baha'is would have very different worldviews from fascism. american muslims, might i add, are mostly liberal though some pro-hezbollah ones would probably gravitate towards us.
4 with this in mind, we must work to red-pill these populations so that fascism isnt all about white supremacy

>>136219694
Kind of hard to do when people are actively seeking to destroy your civilization and hate you for being white.

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>>136219518
One day.
Fascism is growing among white American men because its in our blood, and its in the roots of this country. However it is not a transient political ideology, nor is it a philosophy. It is a worldview that encompasses everything. One must live and breath it in their culture, because Fascism is inseparably bound to culture.

This is what many of the posters here on /pol/ don't understand. Voting a certain way doesn't matter. Having opinions and venting them here on the internet doesn't matter. You need to get involved in a movement IRL, and you need to start changing how you live.
I know many NEETs out there feel no motivation, you feel no drive, yet you still feel frustration at the modern world. This is a sickness of the spirit brought on by modernity. Your personal struggle against this is something that is felt by all men in times like these before a paradigm shift in society. Hopelessness, despair, and apathy are merely delusions felt by those who still want to feel and live. If you were determined to die you would have done so already.
Hope lives within you all as it yet does in our nation.

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America already is. Bush, obama, trump are all facism.

>BUT IT WASNT REAL FACISM

>>136220329
Just because someone adheres to an ideology doesn't mean they are willing to risk their way of life and life itself to fight for it. Modern living is just too comfy and it's why we put up with way more shit than our ancestors. Can you fucking imagine Americans starting a civil war over a minor tax increase today?

>>136220725
Wat. You realize fascism is a coherent political ideology and not actually just a synonym for authoritarian, right?

>>136219694
>just bee urself :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp04VmdRyoI

>>136220348
racism is not implied by fascism
thanks for reinforcing the retarded neo-nazi stereotype

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>>136221142
Nationalism is implied by fascism.
Try getting the golems that Jews have made brown people into to form a united national front with whitey.

>>136221388
i'm not saying i don't agree with you
but racism isn't explicitly implied by fascism, which is what the other poster was talking about

>>136221304
>american
accurate self-portrait

>>136221142
Natsoc was about uniting Germans. Not everyone residing in the country. You're just talking about globalism.

>>136221533
natsoc is not fascism
fascism is more than simple natsoc
seriously why do you feel the need to post when you know so little instead of just doing some simple research?

>>136221956
natsoc is a type of fascism, but it does not represent all fascism

>>136221956
Natsoc is the German take on fascism.
Fascism is just uniting the original ethnic group within a country. Stop trying to push the 'we must accept niggers spics jews and Muslims in western civilization' shit. We don't need that.

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>>136219518
Right wing people are too loyal to the constitution. If that changed then maybe but a change seems very unlikely because that's what they're trying to "conserve". Its more likely a government change of that magnitude would be if the left took absolute control.

>>136219694
If the masses and culture still held "being a good person" as the ideal, then I would agree with you and fascism wouldn't be as tempting to me.
Unfortunately, it feels America is past that.

>>136222230
that's what i'm saying

>>136222267
no one is telling you to accept niggers except yourself. i'm just telling faggots like you to learn to read and interpret an argument. or just keep acting like a nigger and getting angry at things you don't bother to spend the time to understand.

>>136220668
That's what blacks say vice versa.
You should manage puberty and leaving your moms basement first. Report back Kevin!

>>136219518
>Fascism

Just a buzzword.

>>136222267
You already have that. Dream about getting rid half of your population and expecting to live the same.
Somalia will be a paradise in comparison.

>>136222790
indeed. what donald trump is doing insults fascism. fascist economy is supposed to be a mix of liberal and conservative with about 5/6 more liberal economy

>>136219518
It would take a civil war and millions of deaths, but yes it is possible.

>>136222593
I confused you with that namefag. You both have larp flags and don't have a single a clue as to what you're talking about so it was easy.

>>136223251
cute post
whatever helps you sleep at night

>>136220668
>Kind of hard to do when people are actively seeking to destroy your civilization and hate you for being white.
So easy then?

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Economic collapse and balkanization are the only ways Fascism can come to America.

The Midwest has great potential to be a White homeland because the "vibrant diversity" is mostly confined to the cities, but there's just enough of it for Whites to recognize the racial question. Not to mention that the area is very Germanic.

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>>136222267
Natsoc is the better ethno centric version of facism
Facism is almost fucking civic nationalism
Facism
>you will love the state
>you work for the state
>the original ethnicity and the state are one
>if you've been here you can stay but you will love the state/culture
>live and die for the state
Natsoc
>the state is the means to better our people
>our people come first, the state comes second
>if you aren't one our people get the fuck out either by leaving, deportation, or through hell
>the state will promote the people's well being through:industry, art, regulation,etc

Facism you have a hardon for the state
Natsoc you love you your people

Natsoc is the way to go

>>136224347
This.
When will our countries ever reinstate glorious empires?

>>136224263
fuck. im mostly hungarian

>>136224347
Exactly this.

>>136224347
I actually agree with you tho.

>>136219518

Not until I'm dead.

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>>136219518
>national unity in a 54% white country

>>136224347
Nation is blood. It is the people and their heritage. There is no earnest Nationalism that can divorce itself from this. Your view of Fascism is as poorly informed as anyone working for a leftist blog like Vox or Salon. Fascism is not a form of government, it is not a political ideology. Fascism is an all encompassing worldview, and National Socialism is one manifestation of it. The National Socialist Workers Party was the Fascist party of the German people, just as the BUF was the manifestation for the British people that era.

>>136220982

Fascism is an economic policy not political

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>>136224347
>>136224528
>>136224708
are you guys really this dumb?

>>136225161
it is both

>>136225105
Yup, every country has different takes on fascism. America will have it's own exclusive spin as well. I just hope it isn't civic.

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leave this thread and go read pic related, then come back. This thread is a fucking mess

I'm gonna be the States' first fascist president. See you folks in 20 years

>>136225105
>Fascism is an all encompassing worldview, and National Socialism is one manifestation of it.
He just explained how they are distinguished.
NatSoc and Fascism are different and have both been tried, they both work differently and have different generalized outputs, fuck you, you have to be 18+, unironically read a book.

You even mention leftists but the correlation of NatSoc as a type of Fascism is literally Leftist WWII accelerated drivel Reeee.

The only ones who are pushing for fascist America are German Americans (they were the only ethnic group who voted for Trump by a huge margin, they've always supported far right ultra-conservative candidates, etc) due to their natural inclination to authoritarianism and militarism, but they are a dying breed. In 2020s the vast majority of voters will be ethnic minorities and those white who always support Democrats (e.g. Italians, Irish, Mexicans, etc.). I think Trump was the last far right president in American history.

>>136225445
not so fast

>>136225471
The building foundation for fascism is literally just uniting the people against a common enemy, you can go wherever you with it after that. Natsoc is just a branch of Fascism.

>>136225321
Consider the symbolism and why it resonates so well. The Fasces. Rods, a bladed head, the bonds. All the the rods are the same. They aren't different colors, sizes, or shapes, nor are they one collective mass. The rods are the people. The bonds are brotherhood. The bladed head is given its strength only when we strike as one.

A Fascist worldview can't incorporate the destruction of ones own people by adopting an egalitarian ideology. We believe in hierarchies, and creating harmony between unequal parties rather than forced equality. Fascism in America would be exactly what it looked like at our founding, and that would mean only free white European men hold power.

>>136225471
He incorrectly cast them, and spewed forth grossly ignorant opinions.
Read a book sometime.

>>136220580
>awoo retard
Stopped reading here

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>>136225724
Hitler was autistic but did okay thnx rlly mad me thinc.
Unironically also made me think to be fair.

>>136225161
Depends on which Fascist leader shapes your worldview the most.

If you get your inspiration from Mosley's Fascism, it is naturally going to be more economic in nature. Wage-price mechanism, self-sufficiency, economic union, protection of the home market, and, of course, the corporate state.

Mussolini's Fascism is more about spirit. Building a "warrior nation" built on "obedience, sacrifice, and dedication". A nation where "everyone should consider himself a soldier, a soldier even when he is not wearing the grey-green uniform". The corporate state was just a manifestation of that line of thinking. Mosley got a bit carried away with it.

>>136226686
and what about Codreanu and Hitler?

>>136219518
>Trump is closet President we've had to push the needle towards fascism
Will you retards ever cease being retarded?